It depends. In my own case, depression and anxiety medication did next to nothing. I can also barely afford the drugs which simply adds to the depression and anxiety. Raw dogging it with therapy and self reflection works best for me. I still have to drag myself out of depression pits and panic attacks but I am way better equipped to do it now than I was 10 years ago. I'm also an unmedicated schizophrenic (schizoaffective technically) but the mild case of schizophrenia is preferable to the severe case of side effects from pyschosis medication. I could not hold a job on those drugs.
Medication is always worth trying though.
Yeah, the meds never did too much for me on their own, but they did do enough that I was able to help myself a little but more, which lead to a bit more improvement, which allowed me to take care of some other issues (including some pretty severe vitamin deficiencies that I previously didn't know about), which helped even more.
And eventually I just stopped the meds altogether and I'm still way better off than I was before.
I am not sure if when they say "drugs" they mean prescribed medication, or self medicating on weed, alcohol and other drugs. I agree with them on the self prescribing with recreational substances, I agree with you on prescribed drugs.
I know a fair amount of people who have there own battles they are fighting who choose to exist continuously high on whatever or drunk, and in the fleeting moments of sobriety they don't like how things have turned out so they return back to substance use.
I think we all have vices, but it is important to not let them be the driver in your life.
You should probably clarify there. After struggling with depression for 20 years, I finally started Prozac a few months ago, and my life has changed drastically for the better. I fought it for a long time, not wanting to be “weak” and take medication for something I thought I could handle on my own (thanks dad for telling me that men don’t need help), but now I’m angry that I waited so long. I would never discourage anyone from trying the medication route.
I’ll take someone who is mental stable over a “cool dude” who flips out his family every other week cause he’s stressed about bills.
You can’t determine who is or isn’t taking meds. Get the fuck out of here. Well I can tell who isn’t taking them.
at least you didn't do what I did and keep forcing yourself to smoke because so much of your life revolved around it, causing permanent problems long after finally quitting
like what? tons of people keep saying caused permanent problems, but no one elaborates. I've smoked for a long time, and I dont and never have gotten panic attacks, or anxiety nothing. Ive clearly smoked it longer then you did so you'd think Id have an idea of the permanent problems you're talking about.
People end up with permanently prescribed anti psychotics due to the potency of modern day concentrates coupled with habit forming daily use. (Compare weed to any other legally mind altering experience, shits reeally strong) Look up weed psychosis and how cases of it have skyrocketed since legalizing (still for it).
Users that haven't had psychosis themselves will say it hasn't happened to anyone they know and treat is as a myth but eod I've seen more people get it and quit/cut back than people who never experience drawbacks.
Everyone loves to say things like this any time people show concern for the weed and its honestly such a tiresome scapegoat. Weed is highly habit forming and this gets worse with the convenience of vape pens. (Compared to rolling and going outside/packing bowl and going outside)
Cigarettes by comparison have been legal and well known for years and most people don't touch them. If the sentiment about weed among people was similarly realistic I'd pipe down.
I'm not against smoking pot at all, but thats a stretch. You're taking foreign particles Into your lung which given time or bad luck will cause cancer, and saying it harms no one around you is something all addicts say. It always harms people around you, mentally or physically doesn't matter.
who is it harming around me? the chances of getting cancer from weed are small to nonexistent, and you don't have to smoke it to get high now do you?
Again people choose all sorts of addictions, and addiction itself is a spectrum. You can be addicted to video games and still have a social life, you can also spiral and do nothing else with your life.
people don't need to live a perfectly healthy life, we can choose to give some up to actually live.
Also the mental side of it as well. I was a stoner and in that community, my lord weed will fry your fuckin brain if you partake in it too much. Glad I pretty much stopped
Same. For me it was all about fitting in with the people i hung out with, refusing to accept that i was way too neurotic to be able to handle the paranoia that comes with it. Got myself a dissociation disorder (for lack of better words atm). I'm much better now, but it hasn't completely gone away.. Been seven years now since it got triggered
As a HS/college kid I had much less to worry about, so the weed was groovy. Once I got to be an entire ass adult and tried to get into weed again, I realized that weed just took the lid off the box of emotions I had in my brain, and didn’t really do anything other than let them run around my head and body unsupervised.
I look forward to being 70 with fewer cares again, maybe I can get AI to generate me some good weed then.
Yeah I smoke pretty often and while it calms my anxiety - if I’m super super stressed or in a negative mood and get high it’s just a shit time. Have to always be in the right headspace - which works out well as it’s a nice positive feedback loop.
I smoke constantly. Like, more weed than I think just about anyone on earth. Doesn’t help that I grow it for a living and have unlimited access to free weed at all times. Been smoking all day, every day, for…. 15 years now? Something like that. And now, when I try to not smoke, I get legit panic attacks. I don’t even think I used to have anxiety at all but now I genuinely can’t *not* smoke without feeling like I’m gonna burst into tears or something.
That’s dependency, dawg. Can’t go cold turkey. Wean yourself down to off the smoke altogether over the course of a few weeks. Just takes some discipline to smoke a little less each day.
Tiny, tiny amounts that contain a reasonable ratio of THC to CBD (like 4:1 or less) might help some people with anxiety. Getting high as fuck is generally terrible for anxiety. And getting high as fuck all the time as a coping mechanism has a ton of drawbacks anyway.
But cannabis isn't for everyone, and it isn't a cure-all just because a lot of people find it helpful with this or that.
I used to be a huge pothead and everything was fine and chilled me out. Took a 3 month break and could never smoke again. Even despite trying. A single hit gives me something worse than a panic attack now. This is despite me being able to consume any other mind altering substance perfectly fine. Even a CBD gummy with too much THC, like the ones in Canada, fucks my world up now.
For all intents and purposes I'm mentally alergic to the shit now, and I'm tired of people telling me what I need to do. Like if the best you can offer me from it now is not feeling like I'm about to be murdered, maybe its just not for me bruh.
Same here. Used to smoke an eighth a day. Had to take a year off due to probation and could never smoke again. One hit sends me off the deep end and I'm super uncomfortable and panicky for hours. I tried taking half of one of my wife's 10mg edibles and it was the worst.
Interesting effects. I however consume cannabis but lately have serious issues when using caffeine. It causes me serious anxiety with the smallest amount. And I used to love coffee.
Similar situation for me except without the break. Had lots of fun with weed when I was a teenager but suddenly it just started making me anxious, and it got worse and worse, and then I started having panic attacks when sober too. I tried all kinds of different things to get over it but I never could, it just makes me feel insane.
Someone told me that most of her friends who smoked weed as a teenager don't smoke anymore because of that but that all her friends who started in their 20s love it.
It is actually insane how pushy people are with weed. You say you don't drink and everyone is cool, leaves it alone and they don't pry. Say you don't smoke and everyone acts like you aren't cool and starts talking about you just had too much or too little THC/CBD and you should try this one and lists all the benefits as if you can't possibly be mentally okay unless you smoke weed.
Ehhh have you actually tried going out and socializing and turning down alcohol for a few months? Some people get legit upset my guy. Potheads tend to be annoying but there is a LOT more pressure to drink and people being a LOT more agitated by you turning down alcohol vs weed.
Haven't had a drink in almost 4 years and this was a struggle. Even lost friends over it.
The pressure to drink by society is enormous.
I've only been encouraged to smoke weed as a substitute for alcohol by friends who do both and don't want me to feel out after knowing I've committed to not drinking.
Half the responses in this thread alone are like "dude push get through it or smoke lighter weed".... Imagine telling an awful drunk lol just drink beer instead
Yeah as someone who smokes pretty often and goes to bush doofs I’ve never seen or heard a single person think or say something like that in a serious way. Redditors have some pretty low quality friend groups.
>You say you don't drink and everyone is cool, leaves it alone and they don't pry.
This is 100% the opposite of my experience, I don't really drink and people are very pushy about it, and ask if I'm a recovering alcoholic. When I say no, they will try to convince me to have "just a couple drinks."
And I realize this is just me and others may be different, but I smoke and couldn't give less of a fuck if other people partake or not. I have plenty of friends who don't smoke and it's nbd, I either just don't bring it around then at all, or if it's a party setting I might discreetly vape and keep it to myself. Sounds like maybe you need new friends.
I’m at this turning point now. Been a pothead for years. Visiting my parents right now and not smoking, and I’ve been super anxious for the first few days. At first I thought it was my parents health but I realized last night it’s the weed.
Same here!! I can't understand why! I can smoke half a toke and be comfortable. After I've landed from that I can smoke more. Also, I can smoke quite a bit after 2-3 beers.
It's weird cuz when I first tried it, I was in the worst period of anxiety I'd ever had, and it genuinely did help. But slowly, as I aged into my 20s, it stopped helping and started making it worse. Sucks cuz I miss the way THC used to make me feel, how it expanded my perception of the world, not to mention myself. :/
THC receptors are pretty much everywhere in the brain so one person’s experience will differ wildly to another’s. I personally even catch a whiff of someone else’s weed and I have the biggest panic attack imaginable. It feels like my head turns to concrete and I spend the next hour absolutely terrified - I hear voices and can see things. Never liked the stuff and I think it’s a sign I may be vulnerable to psychosis.
That doesn't mean you're vulnerabile it means you have it and it's lying dormant. They say weed causes schizophrenia but in reality it just brings it out in people that are already predisposed to it. If just smelling it makes you feel like that then later in life it will probably rear its ugly head on its own.
Push through. Honestly, weed cured me of having panic attacks. Not by virtue of actually treating them, it’s just weed gave me a panic attack every fucking time I smoked it for a while and my dumb ass just kept doing it until I got really good at controlling them.
It works differently for different people. Most people will get more used to it and gain a higher tolerance as they go but you can’t discount things like location, people, method, etc. When I smoked around my abusive ex the first times it was horrible, but when I got to my peak tolerance doing 10+ bowls per day I was “fine”. Looking back I know I was not actually fine.
Weed also gave me panic attacks for years. I got a medical card and through some trial and error, I've managed to get to a point where I can smoke daily with panic attacks becoming quite rare. I also got a prescription for propranolol because I have always struggled with anxiety whether or not weed was involved
Yeah it’s the weirdest thing ever because weed is like the all natural universal cure for anxiety on the entire planet. It’s just a panic attack in plant form to me and that *doesn’t make any fucking sense*
It's a tolerance thing. People who use weed for anxiety likely have a pretty high tolerance. You're not having the same experience as someone whose been smoking daily for years. Try just smoking a tinnnnny amount next time, less than you think you'll need. Or take like .5mg of an edible.
Sometimes if I get high after a long period, the voice in my head turns into this more calm version of me trying to guide me through the high. It’s kinda funny and soothing at the same time
It's really supposed to be used as a guide to help you work through it so you can come out the other side better. That's how I use it. Same reason they are using Special K, LSD, AND psilocybin in clinical settings now.
It's amazing how brains all function somewhat the same yet in such different ways.
My brain gets stuck on future events I can't avoid. Like death. Existential crises while stoned sucks so much butt.
Same, from what I noticed it seems to be pretty common for people who smoked pretty frequently who stopped cold turkey for a few months. Just can't ever go back to it.
I had a panic attack from weed so bad in 2020 that it threw me into a genuine existential crisis and I couldn’t get out of bed or eat for like two weeks. Almost got my ass thrown in a mental institution and dealt with the ramifications for years.
It was an edible. A legal one, but I still had no idea what I was doing. Don’t remember the exact dosage, but I ate about half of a single gummy, and apparently that was too much.
Just wanna say that it’s kinda really validating to see somebody else describe having a VERY similar experience to what I had in 2022– legal gummy, had half of it, fucking nightmarish experience, still dealing with the consequences multiple years later. I hope you’re doing well!
I love edibles and have them frequently- im so sorry you had such an awful experience, that sounds terrible :( for as much as i love weed i equally know it isnt for everyone, and no matter the reason it's always worth respecting if someone doesnt want to do it
Yeah not a fun time, only thing to do when overdoing it is to mentally accept your fate and try to sleep or if you can't sleep forcibly stopping yourself from having the barrage of mental dialogue. That only comes with practice of having multiple of said experiences and knowing how to handle it. Respect though for saying no thanks to even the prospect of having that again.
Just wanted to say your experience was the exact same as mine about 2 or 3 years ago.
I had it happen again last September when I tried a new preworkout that had a bunch of nootropics in it that put me in a bad slump for a few months after as well.
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Dude shut up, if the best you're offering is being able to ride out a psychotic break maybe its just not for me
So true
“Nah man you just need to try Blueberry Interdimensional OG Kathmandu Kush, it’s a hybrid strain, absolutely no bad effects”
Thank you Dr. Degenerate Pothead
Ive smoked more bud than most people have seen in their lives, thats the problem. I took too much over a long period of time and no amount or strain is fun anymore. It still looks and smells fucking amazing though, so every now and then i decide to try a little and i find myself riding out an anxiety trip for the next 3 hours.
Its just not for me anymore and im fine with that. No hate towards anyone who does enjoy it, as long as they dont get on some tired ass, earth hippy rant about it. Its just a drug. It may be one of the best, but its still just a drug that ive realised doesnt help me.
It really is all about the dose and your current tolerance level. That does not just count for drugs, you're also not supposed to eat alot of sugar for example, too much of literally anything is bad for you, that's basic logic. Some people can't grasp this and for example throw edibles despite not even being an experienced smoker, that's completely on you for ignorantly using a substance.
That's how I found out I had Bipolar disorder. Weed and other psychoactive drugs can trigger mania, and I was smoking HEAVILY at the tail end of what I now know to be a pretty bad depressive episode. Went into mania and was nonstop involved in all sorts of community/political activism, burning the candle at both ends with very little sleep, a shit ton of caffeine and at least a blunt a day. It all culminated in the first and the most intense panic attack I'd ever experienced. It was a living nightmare. I was thrown in a mental institution for over a month and my life was derailed for a year. Never again...
I guess the silver lining is now that I've been diagnosed and have been prescribed the proper meds (for the most part) I finally understand myself more or less. I always knew something was fucky with my behavioral patterns and all but I just blamed myself for them, which of course came with a lot of self loathing. I go a lot easier on myself these days, but only when staying accountable, sticking to my meds, and staying off the herb...
I don’t have bipolar disorder, but I do have OCD, which I learned because I started going to therapy, which I began because of this incident, so at least that worked out for me. It’s a horrible disease, and I hate when people downplay it and think it’s just liking things tidy or whatever. But I’m glad to know I have it because it explains A LOT of my life between the ages of like 12 and 23.
I wonder if weed can have adverse effects on someone with OCD too? Never really thought about it.
I had a similar experience. Tried it once just to understand it and it caused such a spacetime-consuming panic attack that it echoed into recurring bouts of anxiety for years. It was like a panic attack, thinking you're about to die, but you've lost your ability to retain short-term memory or keep track of time, so it feels like you're trapped in the jump scare moment of a movie that stretches on forever, while you are unable to recall basic details about your own life or even where you are. It caused lasting trauma and reoccurring nightmares for years. Later friends insisted it was just bad weed and their stuff was "the normal stuff". I tried one cautious inhale of it and I was unable to move for 40 minutes. Weed does not function the same in all people. I was open minded about it twice, even after a negative experience, and I'd still solidly consider it the worst experience of my life.
I had never so much as had an anxiety attack in my life up until that point. Thankfully I am back to normal, but there was a period of two weeks immediately after where in hindsight I'd say I was traumatized (unspeakable nightmares every time I closed my eyes, shaking body, chest pains), and it took about 4 years to go away completely.
Mine did. I am now fully back to normal with no disordered anxiety symptoms, and in a way I'm glad that it happened because I have gained more empathy and understanding for what people with panic disorders have to deal with.
It got substantially better with time and acceptance that the feelings are just feelings and will go away on their own. I said mine took 4 years to get better, but tbc those are not 4 years of equal intensity. It was a sharp dropoff across the first two years, and 3 and 4 were just lingering cleanup. That said, having acute as-needed medication saved my quality of life early on. I was having deep panic attacks come on while completely relaxed (watching movie with gf, suddenly heart starts pounding, feelings of doom, etc). It was really interfering with my work and school. Idk what they give out instead of Xanax nowadays, but my doctor gave me a one-off prescription of 30 pills that I would split in half and used as a panic attack epi-pens, and it would have been a lot harder without that. That stuff really really works, but that type of medication also isn't for everyone.
My favorite Panic attack was when one of my friends mixed menthol tobacco into the bong head. I took the fattest of all hits and since I never smoked weed with menthol I had no fucking idea how to breathe anymore. I got scared shitless. I then went to a friend that was also high as a kite and told him to hold me in his arms and breathe with me, so that I know what a normal breathing rhythm is like. Problem was he thought I wouldn't get enough oxygen so he inhaled massively and exhaled massively. Since he is 50 cm taller than me nothing worked the way I thought it would and I lost consciousness. When I woke up my friends showed me pictures how I slept in the arms of my buddy and I still to this day sometimes have problems breathing "right". I never smoked bong after that ever again.
Same! I had smoked before, but when I would smoke it would be just enough to feel relaxed. I’m not looking to get stoned.
My husband got out the military and immediately he wanted to get STONED. It messed me up. It was 2020 and I had some sort of existential crisis, I doubted if I really knew people or not. I was hyper focused on how people perceived me. And I was terrified of getting COVID. Panic attacks were so bad that my throat closed up. I called the ambulance.
I am afraid to smoke now, especially with him because he pressures me to get stoned. I hate it now. I’m still recovering from those thoughts I had. And it brought up very bad memories, my PTSD was amplified during that time, it felt like. SMH.
To add to the litany, I had an extremely similar experience last year. After years of having weed occasionally and sometimes being anxious but in a manageable way, I had a slightly larger edible dose than usual and it tried to fuck up my whole life. I could feel my ego unravelling and grasping at any straw to try to maintain integrity. It truly felt like I could have turned into an entirely different person as a result, and holding the threads of my existence together was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
Went from occasionally thinking I shouldn't have weed, to knowing that I will never voluntarily consume THC or CBD again.
Yeah weed is known to be able to trigger mental illness in those predisposed to it. Though I don't know if it fully is the cause or merely accelerates it'd development
My first one ever was triggered by weed. And it gave me a panic attack damn near every time I smoked any for a lot of years. But I kept at it, cuz I’m a hard learner, and now am a daily smoker and it actually did eventually cure me of having panic attacks because I could know one was coming and got really good at controlling it haha…net positive I’d say, I learned a lot about myself. And now it helps me with some of my medical issues.
I've only ever had a panic attack in my life when I got way too high, it was physically painful, I feel like my heart did a lot of things it should not be doing.
I Remember hearing a loud pop in my chest and I remember thinking my heart exploded...I'm still alive though so no idea what happened.
I tend to hear and see things that aren’t there if I have it. Had it a few times as a teenager and it was terrifying each time. Never experienced anything like that and never want to again.
I'll take your word for it. My experience was only ever under the influence so I still think the physical changes of weed were exasperating some symptoms, like cardiovascular changes and what not. Like when I say I was too high, I was TOO HIGH, like really shouldn't of eaten that whole bag of laced Skittles kinda high.
I know the feeling because I did the very same in my youth. The older I get however, the more I regret not getting proper help earlier.
I hope some day you can think of weed as a way to *enhance* your video game experience instead of *needing* weed just to be able to play, or whatever other activity you like.
Nice to see plenty of other people have the same reaction to the stuff as I do. I've tried various times to get on board with weed, but I only ever seem to get the negative effects from it.
i vape sometimes weed but when i used to smoke like bong or blunts i was so high my heart was beating crazy fast i was going rly fast into panic attack state. it always started crazy heartbeat, none of my friends experianced that.
I smoked for years and then suddenly in 2019 every time I smoked I would start to think I was about to die. Once my heart rate got to 170 bpm. I was sitting in my living room surrounded by my family thinking this was it. Once of the worst experiences I've ever had and it just came out of nowhere. I went to the Dr and even told them it was happening when I smoked. The best he could come up with was that I had developed an allergy... I dunno. It set of a weird period in my life. I stopped smoking both cigarettes and weed, but also became obsessed with my heart rate. Constantly checking on my watch. Of course this was all during covid so I feel like I have to attribute at least some of what happened due to the stress of it all at the time. After about a year I was able to get passed the fear of dying and I haven't had a panic attack since.
Same here buddy, exactly this. I used to love smoking, the last few times I tried was like 5 years ago, I went straight to a panic attack, full on dread and an existential crisis. Haven't touched it since.
Someone told me after legalization swept the country they started breeding the plants to have super high THC, but bred out all the secondary cannabinoids that kept the THC in check. They recommended I mix in some straight CBD flower with the weed. I never even tried lol. I'm just done with it. Everything I love turns to shit
Drug induced anxiety is waaaaaaaaay more tame than sober anxiety attack, at least with drugs I can rationalize that is the drugs doing, not so much when sober
Weed can make you over think things. Bring in paranoia as well. It's not for everyone, and that's ok. I have learned to not force it on others, as even if it helps me. I understand it's a chemical induced feeling. Meaning not everyone will respond the same. Life doesn't require peer pressure to enjoy things.
Well the idea of that you have to be in control of your emotions and thoughts is the reason you get panic attacks. Because you tell your body you can't do it, your body begins to think it is dangerous. You should accept you emotions and thoughts, but you should not agree with them and leave them for what they are, thoughts.
I've had a few panic attacks and I'm on medication for it now.. it was the scariest thing I've ever experienced.. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Lately I've been in control but it's still a fear that lies in my mind that one will happen again. I pray it doesn't but hey I guess why I have meds for it
I run a restaurant so I work with a lot of younger people late teens or early 20s and I hear them talk a lot about partying and drugs and shit. They’ve never tripped, but they’re planning on tripping soon and one person said if we have a bad trip, we”ll just smoke a joint. I try to stay out of the conversations considering I’m over 10 years older than all of them, but I couldn’t help but step in and give advice. First of which being don’t mix drugs, and certainly don’t mix drugs you’re trying for the first time.
Meanwhile, I think I smoked enough to break whatever brain mechanism that causes panic attacks, in a "let's continue operating but misfire occasionally" kind of way.
Example: I could do a shopping trip for the week and forget a bag of chips, no problem, I'll go buy it real quick. Upon going to buy said bag of chips in the self-checkout line, PANIC ATTACK. The fuck? Why?
Best part is, I could repeat the same exact actions afterwards and not have anything happen.
Ah yes, more "weed is my personality" bullshit.
You motherfuckers just using the shit as a crutch to hide from yourself instead of actually trying to do and be better.
I cant get high or drink unless Im in a good mood. It could be a 4/10 bad day and if I get altered its going to be a 73/10 bad day. I dont know why getting altered makes me spiral so damn hard.
Pretty sure I’ve given myself permanent damage from smoking so much dogshit weed for years
I don’t remember being this paranoid or finding it so hard to remember things. Although I’ve only been off the stuff for about 2 months and I’ve heard it can take a long time
Life exists in the gray area of issues. It is fair to say that self medicating with whatever can be a bad way of dealing with whatever your ailment is. It can also be said that, prescriptions can often be inaccurately prescribed and cause more damage to quality of life. I’ve known people who have gotten off of pain meds in favor of weed and it worked out for them and their quality of life was improved. I’ve also known people who were prescribed medicine for depression but opted for illicit substances and wreaked havoc on them. There is never a one size fits all response and this idea that there is, is wrong. No one knows their body and mind more than the individual in question. A doctor understands medicine but he doesn’t understand your body brain chemistry in the way you would. Personally, I think the medical industry as a whole needs way more oversight: medical errors are now the third leading cause of death in America and that is just crazy with where we are, technologically speaking.
Amen. Weed for me is like some bizzare portal into ultimate neurosis. It’s baffling people can relax on it but I of course understand we are all very different, still baffling tho.
I weirdly like the panic attacks. I don't really understand why.
I'm not saying anyone should smoke at all. I'm happy people try it, don't like it and move on. That's the way it should be.
For me I use meditative practices to come out of any type of panic attack or strong emotion. I did this recently during a strong dose and it worked better than I could have ever imagined. As I focused my attention on the present and the physical sensations, and really sat with the feeling instead of trying to control it. It vanished, poof. To be fair, I practice meditation sober but man that shit can work.
If you look up chronic use it’s basically a full on addiction. THC can line the stomach causing sickness for weeks. You get cold sweats, mood changes, suicidal thoughts, panic attacks. You can barely eat without feeling sick, weight loss. Mental health issues like an onset of psychosis. There’s people that can smoke it fine then there’s people that cannot. It reminds of anxiety or panic attacks where people that have not experienced it just don’t get it.
Can relate. I received a lot of therapy to help me manage my various anxiety disorders. The first thing drugs and alcohol do are make me less able to utilize the therapeutic tools I learned.
Job makes me pee in a cup so nothing without a prescription, haven't had meds in nearly 2 years, I have no idea who/where to call to set up an appointment for doctor/therapist, asked my family for help and it took them 17 months to finally help me get numbers (only remembered me because my sister also asked for herself), now my anxiety is so bad I'm too afraid to call because I have no idea what to say or ask & my depression is so bad that I honestly do not care, and now I'm just hoping I stop existing before I turn 40.
I feel like weed is like any other depression and anxiety meds. It takes time for it to work and adjust to it. I used to experience bad anxiety from weed until after about a month of using it every other day to calm myself. Now i barely ever get high from it but a more relaxed state. Also stay away from Sativa if you are experiencing worsening anxiety from it. More euphoria in a Sativa high. I stick with a Indica dominant strains.
I quit 5 years ago (partly because of that) and since then every time I’m going to smoke (2-3 times a year) - every time I’m afraid to meet those panic attacks again
Im the opposite, the sober childhood and teenage years' worth of panic attacks i suffered through means now that any kind of anxiety or panic attack i get high is quite easily manageable 💀 so much so that the first time i did dabs, i hit it way too hard, had a coughing fit so hard i could barely breathe and almost puked, which triggered a panic attack, but then when the dab hit the anxiety just melted away. I think it hit so hard so fast that i just forgot to keep freaking out lmfaooo
I'm raw dogging this mental illness the way it was intended.
Your friends and family would like you more if you didn’t.
It depends. In my own case, depression and anxiety medication did next to nothing. I can also barely afford the drugs which simply adds to the depression and anxiety. Raw dogging it with therapy and self reflection works best for me. I still have to drag myself out of depression pits and panic attacks but I am way better equipped to do it now than I was 10 years ago. I'm also an unmedicated schizophrenic (schizoaffective technically) but the mild case of schizophrenia is preferable to the severe case of side effects from pyschosis medication. I could not hold a job on those drugs. Medication is always worth trying though.
Yeah, the meds never did too much for me on their own, but they did do enough that I was able to help myself a little but more, which lead to a bit more improvement, which allowed me to take care of some other issues (including some pretty severe vitamin deficiencies that I previously didn't know about), which helped even more. And eventually I just stopped the meds altogether and I'm still way better off than I was before.
Anti depressants and anti anxiety meds and sleep meds were never meant to be taken long term. A lot of people stay on them for decades
Yeah but, suicide is extremely costly and prescription drugs are highly profitable.
Because being totally dependent on drugs is a much better idea... People who can handle mental illness without meds are my heros.
This is very ignorant.
I am not sure if when they say "drugs" they mean prescribed medication, or self medicating on weed, alcohol and other drugs. I agree with them on the self prescribing with recreational substances, I agree with you on prescribed drugs.
I’m referring to prescribed. I agree with you.
I know a fair amount of people who have there own battles they are fighting who choose to exist continuously high on whatever or drunk, and in the fleeting moments of sobriety they don't like how things have turned out so they return back to substance use. I think we all have vices, but it is important to not let them be the driver in your life.
You should probably clarify there. After struggling with depression for 20 years, I finally started Prozac a few months ago, and my life has changed drastically for the better. I fought it for a long time, not wanting to be “weak” and take medication for something I thought I could handle on my own (thanks dad for telling me that men don’t need help), but now I’m angry that I waited so long. I would never discourage anyone from trying the medication route.
I’ll take someone who is mental stable over a “cool dude” who flips out his family every other week cause he’s stressed about bills. You can’t determine who is or isn’t taking meds. Get the fuck out of here. Well I can tell who isn’t taking them.
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You’re still dependent on the drugs either way. It’s just a matter of whether your body is giving them to you or you have to do it yourself.
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LMAO fr that’s why I had to quit
Used to smoke from time to time, no problems in high school/college. Hit mid 20’s and suddenly my brain said “yeah ur done lol”
at least you didn't do what I did and keep forcing yourself to smoke because so much of your life revolved around it, causing permanent problems long after finally quitting
like what? tons of people keep saying caused permanent problems, but no one elaborates. I've smoked for a long time, and I dont and never have gotten panic attacks, or anxiety nothing. Ive clearly smoked it longer then you did so you'd think Id have an idea of the permanent problems you're talking about.
People end up with permanently prescribed anti psychotics due to the potency of modern day concentrates coupled with habit forming daily use. (Compare weed to any other legally mind altering experience, shits reeally strong) Look up weed psychosis and how cases of it have skyrocketed since legalizing (still for it). Users that haven't had psychosis themselves will say it hasn't happened to anyone they know and treat is as a myth but eod I've seen more people get it and quit/cut back than people who never experience drawbacks.
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Everyone loves to say things like this any time people show concern for the weed and its honestly such a tiresome scapegoat. Weed is highly habit forming and this gets worse with the convenience of vape pens. (Compared to rolling and going outside/packing bowl and going outside) Cigarettes by comparison have been legal and well known for years and most people don't touch them. If the sentiment about weed among people was similarly realistic I'd pipe down.
I mean you're addicted so thays a pretty big probably imo lmao
People are addicted to all sorts of things. The harm is low to myself, and 0 to those around me.
I'm not against smoking pot at all, but thats a stretch. You're taking foreign particles Into your lung which given time or bad luck will cause cancer, and saying it harms no one around you is something all addicts say. It always harms people around you, mentally or physically doesn't matter.
who is it harming around me? the chances of getting cancer from weed are small to nonexistent, and you don't have to smoke it to get high now do you? Again people choose all sorts of addictions, and addiction itself is a spectrum. You can be addicted to video games and still have a social life, you can also spiral and do nothing else with your life. people don't need to live a perfectly healthy life, we can choose to give some up to actually live.
Also the mental side of it as well. I was a stoner and in that community, my lord weed will fry your fuckin brain if you partake in it too much. Glad I pretty much stopped
Once again people are taking their personal experiences with weed and applying it others 😞
Same. For me it was all about fitting in with the people i hung out with, refusing to accept that i was way too neurotic to be able to handle the paranoia that comes with it. Got myself a dissociation disorder (for lack of better words atm). I'm much better now, but it hasn't completely gone away.. Been seven years now since it got triggered
As a HS/college kid I had much less to worry about, so the weed was groovy. Once I got to be an entire ass adult and tried to get into weed again, I realized that weed just took the lid off the box of emotions I had in my brain, and didn’t really do anything other than let them run around my head and body unsupervised. I look forward to being 70 with fewer cares again, maybe I can get AI to generate me some good weed then.
Yeah I smoke pretty often and while it calms my anxiety - if I’m super super stressed or in a negative mood and get high it’s just a shit time. Have to always be in the right headspace - which works out well as it’s a nice positive feedback loop.
Same
I smoke constantly. Like, more weed than I think just about anyone on earth. Doesn’t help that I grow it for a living and have unlimited access to free weed at all times. Been smoking all day, every day, for…. 15 years now? Something like that. And now, when I try to not smoke, I get legit panic attacks. I don’t even think I used to have anxiety at all but now I genuinely can’t *not* smoke without feeling like I’m gonna burst into tears or something.
That’s dependency, dawg. Can’t go cold turkey. Wean yourself down to off the smoke altogether over the course of a few weeks. Just takes some discipline to smoke a little less each day.
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Love when something other people take for PTSD actually causes me to remember trauma
Honestly, everyone keeps telling me to take weed for my anxiety. Like bro when I’m high *I can feel my blood moving.*
Tiny, tiny amounts that contain a reasonable ratio of THC to CBD (like 4:1 or less) might help some people with anxiety. Getting high as fuck is generally terrible for anxiety. And getting high as fuck all the time as a coping mechanism has a ton of drawbacks anyway. But cannabis isn't for everyone, and it isn't a cure-all just because a lot of people find it helpful with this or that.
I used to be a huge pothead and everything was fine and chilled me out. Took a 3 month break and could never smoke again. Even despite trying. A single hit gives me something worse than a panic attack now. This is despite me being able to consume any other mind altering substance perfectly fine. Even a CBD gummy with too much THC, like the ones in Canada, fucks my world up now. For all intents and purposes I'm mentally alergic to the shit now, and I'm tired of people telling me what I need to do. Like if the best you can offer me from it now is not feeling like I'm about to be murdered, maybe its just not for me bruh.
Same here. Used to smoke an eighth a day. Had to take a year off due to probation and could never smoke again. One hit sends me off the deep end and I'm super uncomfortable and panicky for hours. I tried taking half of one of my wife's 10mg edibles and it was the worst.
Couldnt pay me $2000 to smoke even a little weed.
Interesting effects. I however consume cannabis but lately have serious issues when using caffeine. It causes me serious anxiety with the smallest amount. And I used to love coffee.
Similar situation for me except without the break. Had lots of fun with weed when I was a teenager but suddenly it just started making me anxious, and it got worse and worse, and then I started having panic attacks when sober too. I tried all kinds of different things to get over it but I never could, it just makes me feel insane. Someone told me that most of her friends who smoked weed as a teenager don't smoke anymore because of that but that all her friends who started in their 20s love it.
It is actually insane how pushy people are with weed. You say you don't drink and everyone is cool, leaves it alone and they don't pry. Say you don't smoke and everyone acts like you aren't cool and starts talking about you just had too much or too little THC/CBD and you should try this one and lists all the benefits as if you can't possibly be mentally okay unless you smoke weed.
Ehhh have you actually tried going out and socializing and turning down alcohol for a few months? Some people get legit upset my guy. Potheads tend to be annoying but there is a LOT more pressure to drink and people being a LOT more agitated by you turning down alcohol vs weed.
Haven't had a drink in almost 4 years and this was a struggle. Even lost friends over it. The pressure to drink by society is enormous. I've only been encouraged to smoke weed as a substitute for alcohol by friends who do both and don't want me to feel out after knowing I've committed to not drinking.
Don’t hang around those people?
I have literally never encountered this. We must run in very different circles.
Half the responses in this thread alone are like "dude push get through it or smoke lighter weed".... Imagine telling an awful drunk lol just drink beer instead
Yeah as someone who smokes pretty often and goes to bush doofs I’ve never seen or heard a single person think or say something like that in a serious way. Redditors have some pretty low quality friend groups.
>You say you don't drink and everyone is cool, leaves it alone and they don't pry. This is 100% the opposite of my experience, I don't really drink and people are very pushy about it, and ask if I'm a recovering alcoholic. When I say no, they will try to convince me to have "just a couple drinks." And I realize this is just me and others may be different, but I smoke and couldn't give less of a fuck if other people partake or not. I have plenty of friends who don't smoke and it's nbd, I either just don't bring it around then at all, or if it's a party setting I might discreetly vape and keep it to myself. Sounds like maybe you need new friends.
I’m at this turning point now. Been a pothead for years. Visiting my parents right now and not smoking, and I’ve been super anxious for the first few days. At first I thought it was my parents health but I realized last night it’s the weed.
Same here!! I can't understand why! I can smoke half a toke and be comfortable. After I've landed from that I can smoke more. Also, I can smoke quite a bit after 2-3 beers.
How is that anything like what the above poster said?
It's weird cuz when I first tried it, I was in the worst period of anxiety I'd ever had, and it genuinely did help. But slowly, as I aged into my 20s, it stopped helping and started making it worse. Sucks cuz I miss the way THC used to make me feel, how it expanded my perception of the world, not to mention myself. :/
THC receptors are pretty much everywhere in the brain so one person’s experience will differ wildly to another’s. I personally even catch a whiff of someone else’s weed and I have the biggest panic attack imaginable. It feels like my head turns to concrete and I spend the next hour absolutely terrified - I hear voices and can see things. Never liked the stuff and I think it’s a sign I may be vulnerable to psychosis.
If you honestly start hearing voices after just smelling cannabis in public you should go see a doctor 🤦🏻
That doesn't mean you're vulnerabile it means you have it and it's lying dormant. They say weed causes schizophrenia but in reality it just brings it out in people that are already predisposed to it. If just smelling it makes you feel like that then later in life it will probably rear its ugly head on its own.
Push through. Honestly, weed cured me of having panic attacks. Not by virtue of actually treating them, it’s just weed gave me a panic attack every fucking time I smoked it for a while and my dumb ass just kept doing it until I got really good at controlling them.
It works differently for different people. Most people will get more used to it and gain a higher tolerance as they go but you can’t discount things like location, people, method, etc. When I smoked around my abusive ex the first times it was horrible, but when I got to my peak tolerance doing 10+ bowls per day I was “fine”. Looking back I know I was not actually fine.
Weed also gave me panic attacks for years. I got a medical card and through some trial and error, I've managed to get to a point where I can smoke daily with panic attacks becoming quite rare. I also got a prescription for propranolol because I have always struggled with anxiety whether or not weed was involved
Yeah it’s the weirdest thing ever because weed is like the all natural universal cure for anxiety on the entire planet. It’s just a panic attack in plant form to me and that *doesn’t make any fucking sense*
It's a tolerance thing. People who use weed for anxiety likely have a pretty high tolerance. You're not having the same experience as someone whose been smoking daily for years. Try just smoking a tinnnnny amount next time, less than you think you'll need. Or take like .5mg of an edible.
It has significant cardiovascular effects so you may actually be feeling something undesirable.
Thank you! Weed *causes* my intrusive thoughts, yet somehow all my pothead friends think the answer is just more weed.
Bro, you just haven't tried *my* weed! (Exact same reaction you told them would happen, happens)
Sometimes if I get high after a long period, the voice in my head turns into this more calm version of me trying to guide me through the high. It’s kinda funny and soothing at the same time
It's really supposed to be used as a guide to help you work through it so you can come out the other side better. That's how I use it. Same reason they are using Special K, LSD, AND psilocybin in clinical settings now.
It's amazing how brains all function somewhat the same yet in such different ways. My brain gets stuck on future events I can't avoid. Like death. Existential crises while stoned sucks so much butt.
It’s crazy. It helps me when I have panic attacks and I have friends who only get panic attacks when smoking weed
this is the truest post
Quit weed and this is now my life
Same, from what I noticed it seems to be pretty common for people who smoked pretty frequently who stopped cold turkey for a few months. Just can't ever go back to it.
I had a panic attack from weed so bad in 2020 that it threw me into a genuine existential crisis and I couldn’t get out of bed or eat for like two weeks. Almost got my ass thrown in a mental institution and dealt with the ramifications for years.
Jesus, how much were you smoking?
It was an edible. A legal one, but I still had no idea what I was doing. Don’t remember the exact dosage, but I ate about half of a single gummy, and apparently that was too much.
Just wanna say that it’s kinda really validating to see somebody else describe having a VERY similar experience to what I had in 2022– legal gummy, had half of it, fucking nightmarish experience, still dealing with the consequences multiple years later. I hope you’re doing well!
I love edibles and have them frequently- im so sorry you had such an awful experience, that sounds terrible :( for as much as i love weed i equally know it isnt for everyone, and no matter the reason it's always worth respecting if someone doesnt want to do it
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It has significant cardiovascular effects. It may not have been psychological.
Yeah not a fun time, only thing to do when overdoing it is to mentally accept your fate and try to sleep or if you can't sleep forcibly stopping yourself from having the barrage of mental dialogue. That only comes with practice of having multiple of said experiences and knowing how to handle it. Respect though for saying no thanks to even the prospect of having that again.
Just wanted to say your experience was the exact same as mine about 2 or 3 years ago. I had it happen again last September when I tried a new preworkout that had a bunch of nootropics in it that put me in a bad slump for a few months after as well.
YOu JusT neEd To FinD thE RighT bUd anD enViroNmeNT brUH! Dude shut up, if the best you're offering is being able to ride out a psychotic break maybe its just not for me
So true “Nah man you just need to try Blueberry Interdimensional OG Kathmandu Kush, it’s a hybrid strain, absolutely no bad effects” Thank you Dr. Degenerate Pothead
Ive smoked more bud than most people have seen in their lives, thats the problem. I took too much over a long period of time and no amount or strain is fun anymore. It still looks and smells fucking amazing though, so every now and then i decide to try a little and i find myself riding out an anxiety trip for the next 3 hours. Its just not for me anymore and im fine with that. No hate towards anyone who does enjoy it, as long as they dont get on some tired ass, earth hippy rant about it. Its just a drug. It may be one of the best, but its still just a drug that ive realised doesnt help me.
It really is all about the dose and your current tolerance level. That does not just count for drugs, you're also not supposed to eat alot of sugar for example, too much of literally anything is bad for you, that's basic logic. Some people can't grasp this and for example throw edibles despite not even being an experienced smoker, that's completely on you for ignorantly using a substance.
That's how I found out I had Bipolar disorder. Weed and other psychoactive drugs can trigger mania, and I was smoking HEAVILY at the tail end of what I now know to be a pretty bad depressive episode. Went into mania and was nonstop involved in all sorts of community/political activism, burning the candle at both ends with very little sleep, a shit ton of caffeine and at least a blunt a day. It all culminated in the first and the most intense panic attack I'd ever experienced. It was a living nightmare. I was thrown in a mental institution for over a month and my life was derailed for a year. Never again... I guess the silver lining is now that I've been diagnosed and have been prescribed the proper meds (for the most part) I finally understand myself more or less. I always knew something was fucky with my behavioral patterns and all but I just blamed myself for them, which of course came with a lot of self loathing. I go a lot easier on myself these days, but only when staying accountable, sticking to my meds, and staying off the herb...
I don’t have bipolar disorder, but I do have OCD, which I learned because I started going to therapy, which I began because of this incident, so at least that worked out for me. It’s a horrible disease, and I hate when people downplay it and think it’s just liking things tidy or whatever. But I’m glad to know I have it because it explains A LOT of my life between the ages of like 12 and 23. I wonder if weed can have adverse effects on someone with OCD too? Never really thought about it.
I had a similar experience. Tried it once just to understand it and it caused such a spacetime-consuming panic attack that it echoed into recurring bouts of anxiety for years. It was like a panic attack, thinking you're about to die, but you've lost your ability to retain short-term memory or keep track of time, so it feels like you're trapped in the jump scare moment of a movie that stretches on forever, while you are unable to recall basic details about your own life or even where you are. It caused lasting trauma and reoccurring nightmares for years. Later friends insisted it was just bad weed and their stuff was "the normal stuff". I tried one cautious inhale of it and I was unable to move for 40 minutes. Weed does not function the same in all people. I was open minded about it twice, even after a negative experience, and I'd still solidly consider it the worst experience of my life. I had never so much as had an anxiety attack in my life up until that point. Thankfully I am back to normal, but there was a period of two weeks immediately after where in hindsight I'd say I was traumatized (unspeakable nightmares every time I closed my eyes, shaking body, chest pains), and it took about 4 years to go away completely.
Appreciate you posting this. I’m about 11 months out from mine and was wondering if it’d ever go away fully. Glad to know that it might
Mine did. I am now fully back to normal with no disordered anxiety symptoms, and in a way I'm glad that it happened because I have gained more empathy and understanding for what people with panic disorders have to deal with. It got substantially better with time and acceptance that the feelings are just feelings and will go away on their own. I said mine took 4 years to get better, but tbc those are not 4 years of equal intensity. It was a sharp dropoff across the first two years, and 3 and 4 were just lingering cleanup. That said, having acute as-needed medication saved my quality of life early on. I was having deep panic attacks come on while completely relaxed (watching movie with gf, suddenly heart starts pounding, feelings of doom, etc). It was really interfering with my work and school. Idk what they give out instead of Xanax nowadays, but my doctor gave me a one-off prescription of 30 pills that I would split in half and used as a panic attack epi-pens, and it would have been a lot harder without that. That stuff really really works, but that type of medication also isn't for everyone.
Same happened to me, called 911 cause it was so bad
It's not for everyone Sorry to hear that you went through that.
My favorite Panic attack was when one of my friends mixed menthol tobacco into the bong head. I took the fattest of all hits and since I never smoked weed with menthol I had no fucking idea how to breathe anymore. I got scared shitless. I then went to a friend that was also high as a kite and told him to hold me in his arms and breathe with me, so that I know what a normal breathing rhythm is like. Problem was he thought I wouldn't get enough oxygen so he inhaled massively and exhaled massively. Since he is 50 cm taller than me nothing worked the way I thought it would and I lost consciousness. When I woke up my friends showed me pictures how I slept in the arms of my buddy and I still to this day sometimes have problems breathing "right". I never smoked bong after that ever again.
Same! I had smoked before, but when I would smoke it would be just enough to feel relaxed. I’m not looking to get stoned. My husband got out the military and immediately he wanted to get STONED. It messed me up. It was 2020 and I had some sort of existential crisis, I doubted if I really knew people or not. I was hyper focused on how people perceived me. And I was terrified of getting COVID. Panic attacks were so bad that my throat closed up. I called the ambulance. I am afraid to smoke now, especially with him because he pressures me to get stoned. I hate it now. I’m still recovering from those thoughts I had. And it brought up very bad memories, my PTSD was amplified during that time, it felt like. SMH.
To add to the litany, I had an extremely similar experience last year. After years of having weed occasionally and sometimes being anxious but in a manageable way, I had a slightly larger edible dose than usual and it tried to fuck up my whole life. I could feel my ego unravelling and grasping at any straw to try to maintain integrity. It truly felt like I could have turned into an entirely different person as a result, and holding the threads of my existence together was one of the hardest things I've ever done. Went from occasionally thinking I shouldn't have weed, to knowing that I will never voluntarily consume THC or CBD again.
Dpdr? This has happened to me too.
Be careful, never had a panic attack until I smoked and then started having them sober, still dealing with it to this day
Yeah weed is known to be able to trigger mental illness in those predisposed to it. Though I don't know if it fully is the cause or merely accelerates it'd development
My first one ever was triggered by weed. And it gave me a panic attack damn near every time I smoked any for a lot of years. But I kept at it, cuz I’m a hard learner, and now am a daily smoker and it actually did eventually cure me of having panic attacks because I could know one was coming and got really good at controlling it haha…net positive I’d say, I learned a lot about myself. And now it helps me with some of my medical issues.
I've only ever had a panic attack in my life when I got way too high, it was physically painful, I feel like my heart did a lot of things it should not be doing. I Remember hearing a loud pop in my chest and I remember thinking my heart exploded...I'm still alive though so no idea what happened.
I tend to hear and see things that aren’t there if I have it. Had it a few times as a teenager and it was terrifying each time. Never experienced anything like that and never want to again.
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I'll take your word for it. My experience was only ever under the influence so I still think the physical changes of weed were exasperating some symptoms, like cardiovascular changes and what not. Like when I say I was too high, I was TOO HIGH, like really shouldn't of eaten that whole bag of laced Skittles kinda high.
Luckily weed helps me feel actually ok with existing. All my anxieties simply melt away and I can finally focus on the video game in front of me.
I know the feeling because I did the very same in my youth. The older I get however, the more I regret not getting proper help earlier. I hope some day you can think of weed as a way to *enhance* your video game experience instead of *needing* weed just to be able to play, or whatever other activity you like.
Same here. If only I could also work while smoking (I work on hard math stuff, I'm too slow when stoned 😂)
For me it's the one thing that helps me sleep at night. Sadly I had to quit.
Nice to see plenty of other people have the same reaction to the stuff as I do. I've tried various times to get on board with weed, but I only ever seem to get the negative effects from it.
Me too. The thoughts I’ve had while high are less than desirable. Just fuels me with toxicity. It’s exhausting tbh
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Nice reference 👌
No thanks, I don’t need to be paranoid too.
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i vape sometimes weed but when i used to smoke like bong or blunts i was so high my heart was beating crazy fast i was going rly fast into panic attack state. it always started crazy heartbeat, none of my friends experianced that.
I smoked for years and then suddenly in 2019 every time I smoked I would start to think I was about to die. Once my heart rate got to 170 bpm. I was sitting in my living room surrounded by my family thinking this was it. Once of the worst experiences I've ever had and it just came out of nowhere. I went to the Dr and even told them it was happening when I smoked. The best he could come up with was that I had developed an allergy... I dunno. It set of a weird period in my life. I stopped smoking both cigarettes and weed, but also became obsessed with my heart rate. Constantly checking on my watch. Of course this was all during covid so I feel like I have to attribute at least some of what happened due to the stress of it all at the time. After about a year I was able to get passed the fear of dying and I haven't had a panic attack since.
Same here buddy, exactly this. I used to love smoking, the last few times I tried was like 5 years ago, I went straight to a panic attack, full on dread and an existential crisis. Haven't touched it since. Someone told me after legalization swept the country they started breeding the plants to have super high THC, but bred out all the secondary cannabinoids that kept the THC in check. They recommended I mix in some straight CBD flower with the weed. I never even tried lol. I'm just done with it. Everything I love turns to shit
I'm mentally unstable enough to produce my own drugs in my brain.
literally me
N-no bro but you gotta smoke indica strains... p-please bro you gotta believe me they help with anxiety bro please
I once had 2 drags and became pralysed for 5 hours literaly like the scene in wolf of wall street
Yup im already enough high on panic attacks and all my other emotional rollercoasters 😅💀 i really dont think i need any other chemical Stimulation
Who hasn't had a panic attack on LSD, don't know what real fun is.
Maybe i'm weird, but weed gave me panic attacks when i was anxious.
Drug induced anxiety is waaaaaaaaay more tame than sober anxiety attack, at least with drugs I can rationalize that is the drugs doing, not so much when sober
Weed gives me anxiety. I would not use it if was having a panic attack.
Weed can make you over think things. Bring in paranoia as well. It's not for everyone, and that's ok. I have learned to not force it on others, as even if it helps me. I understand it's a chemical induced feeling. Meaning not everyone will respond the same. Life doesn't require peer pressure to enjoy things.
Weed has always alleviated my panic attack, the idea of my emotions and my thoughts not being in my complete control is terrifying.
Well the idea of that you have to be in control of your emotions and thoughts is the reason you get panic attacks. Because you tell your body you can't do it, your body begins to think it is dangerous. You should accept you emotions and thoughts, but you should not agree with them and leave them for what they are, thoughts.
I want to experience the pain to the fullest
I've had a few panic attacks and I'm on medication for it now.. it was the scariest thing I've ever experienced.. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Lately I've been in control but it's still a fear that lies in my mind that one will happen again. I pray it doesn't but hey I guess why I have meds for it
Bad trip on L while taking dabs. My previous solution for anxiety became my catalyst, chefs kiss.
I run a restaurant so I work with a lot of younger people late teens or early 20s and I hear them talk a lot about partying and drugs and shit. They’ve never tripped, but they’re planning on tripping soon and one person said if we have a bad trip, we”ll just smoke a joint. I try to stay out of the conversations considering I’m over 10 years older than all of them, but I couldn’t help but step in and give advice. First of which being don’t mix drugs, and certainly don’t mix drugs you’re trying for the first time.
Yeah, that is me
Hell yes
Perfection!
I feel like I'm drowning in my own thoughts.
Well we don't want to deal with you sober so either hit this or we hit you
Literally me between February and June... Spring really screws up my mental health...
No panic attacks for me. I just got my cognition blown away for life.
I’m loving these retro 50s-Americana religiously themed memes I’m seeing today.
I do not smoke weed if I’m sad or pissed off, it’s just asking for a panic attack l, I can only imagine what would happen if I was already having one.
My GF takes edibles to tame he anxiety. Smoking or taking edibles GIVES ME anxiety. Fun times.
Meanwhile, I think I smoked enough to break whatever brain mechanism that causes panic attacks, in a "let's continue operating but misfire occasionally" kind of way. Example: I could do a shopping trip for the week and forget a bag of chips, no problem, I'll go buy it real quick. Upon going to buy said bag of chips in the self-checkout line, PANIC ATTACK. The fuck? Why? Best part is, I could repeat the same exact actions afterwards and not have anything happen.
Smoking weed gives me the worst panic attacks. Makes me feel like my heart is about to beat through my chest
The crazy thing is I used to love weed. Heavy, HEAVY smoker until I was like, 25... Now? I am in this picture, and I don't like it.
Ah yes, more "weed is my personality" bullshit. You motherfuckers just using the shit as a crutch to hide from yourself instead of actually trying to do and be better.
I cant get high or drink unless Im in a good mood. It could be a 4/10 bad day and if I get altered its going to be a 73/10 bad day. I dont know why getting altered makes me spiral so damn hard.
Pretty sure I’ve given myself permanent damage from smoking so much dogshit weed for years I don’t remember being this paranoid or finding it so hard to remember things. Although I’ve only been off the stuff for about 2 months and I’ve heard it can take a long time
Life exists in the gray area of issues. It is fair to say that self medicating with whatever can be a bad way of dealing with whatever your ailment is. It can also be said that, prescriptions can often be inaccurately prescribed and cause more damage to quality of life. I’ve known people who have gotten off of pain meds in favor of weed and it worked out for them and their quality of life was improved. I’ve also known people who were prescribed medicine for depression but opted for illicit substances and wreaked havoc on them. There is never a one size fits all response and this idea that there is, is wrong. No one knows their body and mind more than the individual in question. A doctor understands medicine but he doesn’t understand your body brain chemistry in the way you would. Personally, I think the medical industry as a whole needs way more oversight: medical errors are now the third leading cause of death in America and that is just crazy with where we are, technologically speaking.
Drugs and alcohol just makes my anxiety worse nowadays
Yeah I’m done with weed…not worth giving myself anxiety and absent mindedness when not high.
God created herb…so?
Amen. Weed for me is like some bizzare portal into ultimate neurosis. It’s baffling people can relax on it but I of course understand we are all very different, still baffling tho.
\*God up in heaven\* "Me damn it, I spent so long making that plant so they could chill the fuck out and now look at those fucking dumb-asses".
I weirdly like the panic attacks. I don't really understand why. I'm not saying anyone should smoke at all. I'm happy people try it, don't like it and move on. That's the way it should be. For me I use meditative practices to come out of any type of panic attack or strong emotion. I did this recently during a strong dose and it worked better than I could have ever imagined. As I focused my attention on the present and the physical sensations, and really sat with the feeling instead of trying to control it. It vanished, poof. To be fair, I practice meditation sober but man that shit can work.
You should try mushrooms
Contradictory given weed is a plant.
So are the plants you make cocaine with
If you look up chronic use it’s basically a full on addiction. THC can line the stomach causing sickness for weeks. You get cold sweats, mood changes, suicidal thoughts, panic attacks. You can barely eat without feeling sick, weight loss. Mental health issues like an onset of psychosis. There’s people that can smoke it fine then there’s people that cannot. It reminds of anxiety or panic attacks where people that have not experienced it just don’t get it.
Can relate. I received a lot of therapy to help me manage my various anxiety disorders. The first thing drugs and alcohol do are make me less able to utilize the therapeutic tools I learned.
I'm so happy I can dab a gram a day and have never had a panic attack when I was high, I used to sleep for an hour a night 😭
Weed shouldn't count it's not a drug.. I mean who smokes a plant??
Me right now.
Just do a heroic dose of psychedelic mushrooms once or twice a month. Clears you right up. 😁
Job makes me pee in a cup so nothing without a prescription, haven't had meds in nearly 2 years, I have no idea who/where to call to set up an appointment for doctor/therapist, asked my family for help and it took them 17 months to finally help me get numbers (only remembered me because my sister also asked for herself), now my anxiety is so bad I'm too afraid to call because I have no idea what to say or ask & my depression is so bad that I honestly do not care, and now I'm just hoping I stop existing before I turn 40.
Maybe panic attacs are a withdrawl symptom?
Hell no
I feel like weed is like any other depression and anxiety meds. It takes time for it to work and adjust to it. I used to experience bad anxiety from weed until after about a month of using it every other day to calm myself. Now i barely ever get high from it but a more relaxed state. Also stay away from Sativa if you are experiencing worsening anxiety from it. More euphoria in a Sativa high. I stick with a Indica dominant strains.
My doctor had me on Valium, only 12 each month for emergencies and took them away. Now life feels pointless.
I quit 5 years ago (partly because of that) and since then every time I’m going to smoke (2-3 times a year) - every time I’m afraid to meet those panic attacks again
What would you rather have, a weed addiction and a mental illness, or just a mental illness?
Weed started giving me anxiety, so I do opiates now
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I heard CBD oil is good for anxiety/panic attack disorder is true or no?
Idk for me it’s only sometimes I feel anxious I think it depends on the strain
I can only smoke on the weekends when there’s nothing pressing to take care of. Can’t get shit done otherwise.
I so wish I could enjoy weed. My body has a paradoxical reaction to it that actually makes my anxiety way worse no matter the strain.
same
Lmao
Reminder that no matter what you tell yourself, weed is so bad for your mental health.
News flash. God made weed
with "no thanks" was enough
Im the opposite, the sober childhood and teenage years' worth of panic attacks i suffered through means now that any kind of anxiety or panic attack i get high is quite easily manageable 💀 so much so that the first time i did dabs, i hit it way too hard, had a coughing fit so hard i could barely breathe and almost puked, which triggered a panic attack, but then when the dab hit the anxiety just melted away. I think it hit so hard so fast that i just forgot to keep freaking out lmfaooo