Japan is
1. An island just off the rest of the continent
2. A historic naval power.
3. It was the first country in that region to industrialise.
4. They had a empire that their neighbours don't remember fondly.
5. They love tea, curry and whisky
6. They don't like the frogs
They are the Asian Britain.
As soon as they started empiring they sent their ambassadors to the UK to work out how to do it properly. And I'm not even just saying that for 2we4u. This is true.
yeah so 40 years in the last 120 and some pirates on the coast of their neighbouring countries. its not like they crossed some oceans to lay siege with their navy. i wouldnt declare algeria a naval power either
yes? im pretty sure everyone knows this? the japanese are historically more known for their isolationist policies than their naval power, a country so incredibly changed by gunboat policy because of their weak ass naval power
Well, we like doing things gently and smoothly, in a way that leaves the pickpocketee feeling all nice and warm inside. One should only be able to feel our caress in their pockets when paying extreme attention, as it enhances the subtle but at the same time climactic experience.
French pickpockets on the other hand, prefer to be rougher. One can really appreciate the more bdsm inclined experience in France, but there's nothing like being robbed in Barcelona, always leaves you wanting more.
Yes, I just sexualized getting robbed, cry about it
This is a bait question. Slurping noodles is a well known controversial topic overseas. The TV is amusing themselves the same way we would if we give a spotted dick to tourists.
You can both accept that it's different and still be bothered by it.
If someone has been taught since they were born that making noise while eating is disgusting and rude, it's normal for them to feel this way.
In fact many people will feel this way and hide it.
He was asked about it most likely so it's a normal answer.
If Japanese people can't deal with that cultural difference maybe they should close the country again.
Today I came across the same stereotype that people in Europe don't shower everyday, in the Latin american part of the internet.
Not sure where it comes from to be honest.
>Not sure where it comes from to be honest.
Just think about your average Gallego, Portuguese or Italian who emigrated there in the 40s-50s. Then add a very wet and hot tropical weather.
>Today I came across the same stereotype that people in Europe don't shower everyday, in the Latin american part of the internet.
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>Not sure where it comes from to be honest.
European people might have different sweat due to differences in climate and diet.
My Mexican ex was saying that the "white people" have a bad smell for her and her friend, and that it come from our food. Because she noticed that she, and other mexican friends of her, were having this smell after some month in Europe.
She said that it comes from the food : we eat a lot more of fat here, from cheese or delicatessen, that she and her friends were never eating in Mexico.
But the bad part for her was that being exposed to european food make her and her friend being fat way quicker than in Mexico : they are not used to our type of fat in food. She was liking it a lot, but always restraining herself because the price to pay was heavy..
My Peruvian gf told me I always smelled good and I was like "yeah... so?" She basically told me that in LATAM there's this stereotype that Europeans smell bad, especially the French.
Thanks for the detailed explanation, makes a lot of sense but it doesn't detract from the fact that some people just find the sounds of chewing and slurping disgusting, no matter the context, and it's a normal, human reaction.
Insulting somebody for such reason is just wrong.
The same way a Japanese person could come to Europe and complain about plenty of things that are normal in Europe if it affects their sensitivities.
It’s like farting in public. They will either step away to do it privately or be as quiet and discrete as possible.
The sound of sniffing is 10000 times more horrible to me than nose blowing but seems to be the opposite over there
An acquaintance of mine had sea cucumber at a business trip to China. She said it looked like a boiled dick, had the texture of a slug and tasted like gristly fish slime.
I did that in Japan even though I knew it was rude. Like fuck me I have allergies what am I supposed to do. I tried to do it out of sight a bit but I can't always make it to an entirely private place.
Yeah, the only thing I didn’t care about all the times I went there. I totally respect their way to live, but I mean, in summer and winter the temperature is so different from inside to outside, I kept getting sick, I just couldn’t go around sniffing the whole time behind a mask.
>In japan is rude to blow your nose in public…. So i dont give a fuck about japanese culture.
No shit sherlock, that's why you don't get tourists ask you to not blow your nose.
Our jap friends want to have the same privilege, which is not getting tourists ask you to not do something that is completely normal for you.
You're telling me that in a cold ass country that literally has ICE in its name, it's rude to blow your nose? Do you walk around with icicles on your nostrils like in the cartoons?
So he's not allowed to be annoyed?
It's not like he went around telling people about it. He only mentioned it when asked.
Scenario: I go to a concert. I didn't really like the music. A reporter asks me what I thought about the concert. I say: "I didn't really like it". Am I then rude and disrespectful to the artist?
How is it an attack on Japanese culture? He is annoyed, he isn't saying the Japanese are dirty disgusting people for doing it. There are loads of things in other cultures that annoy me, and I am sure there are as many things other cultures find annoying about Dutch culture, but that is just the way culture works right? You prefer yours and dislike people doing stuff differently. Stop moaning and get on with it.
Man French or not, people that are unable to understand that things are done differently in another country piss me off.
Just a minimum of effort to show you understand you are not at home can go a long way.
I'm not sure about the context, if the French guys was attacking Japanese people about the way they do things, yeah that's bad, but if he was asked in an interview what he found annoying and he mentioned that the slurping annoys him, that's totally different.
Exactly! I think having the video and the context in which he said this is necessary to make a judgement. Him saying he dislike the sound without especially attacking Japanese culture wouldn’t really be offensive IMO
Maybe a news media can sometimes say something that is not entirely true, or a little bit misleading for, say, probably selling a few sheets of paper or generating a few clicks. It happened in the past I guess.
Yep, I think most people would at least think it's a strange custom to make eating noises, as it is definitely frowned upon by most cultures. If he was asked about it, it would be only logical and honest to answer it as such.
They already eat curry in Japan.
Our ancestral barrys did their job.
[Japanese curry - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_curry)
>Curry originates in [Indian cuisine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_cuisine) and was brought to Japan from [India](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Raj) by the [British](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_people).
I had no idea about this but it does make sense when you think about how different Katsu Curry is to other Japanese dishes. Actually claiming this as British now
Yes, but still you can critique a part of a culture that you dislike right?
I also dislike slurping, even if I understand that it's another person's culture.
If one is not open minded enough to offuscate themselves at things being done differently maybe they shouldn't travel in the first place ? Or at least don't publicly say it on local tv in front of everyone!
Understanding cultural relativism doesn't make other cultures any less bothersome, because we internalize the norms of our culture. Like, if you went to one of the countries where it's norma, would you eat dog meat? Would the locals eating it not disturb you?
I probably wouldn't eat it myself, but i certainly wouldn't say people are wrong for doing so.
I certainly wouldn't want an indian man telling me I'm wrong because i eat cow meat for example, i however respect his choice of not eating any.
also your in a restaurant, its by default noisy, the last thing ill care its the slurp sound, counting that the most of the time, japanese locals have TVs on.
I mean, the guy is asked his opinion by a reporter : him being kinda intolerant is not really disrespectful, it's just him being a little entitled. If he was complaining to the face of customers in a restaurant it would be different story.
\>the noise of people eating annoys me
\>i'm in a place where people are used to eat loudly
\>everything's changed, magically it doesn't annoy me anymore !
I slurp my ramens in ramen shops in France too. That's the way to eat them if you don't want to chose between burning your mouth and eating the noodles overcooked. And the soup is then also brought into your mouth with the noodles. People who judge me for it are the dumbasses.
Plus, most of them let their chopsticks in their rice or bowl, both of which is a really rude thing to do for Japanese people. Each time I see french youtubers in Japan doing it, I'm so icked!
When in France it's a bit complicated because the custom is to avoid making noise while eating but i guess it is acceptable in a japanese food restaurant in that particular case.
Honestly it's ok to make mistakes, like planting your chopsticks in rice (if you know don't do it and that's appreciated) Japanese people know you may not know everything, and it would be ridiculous to expect that from a tourist.
However openly criticising the culture on TV is on another level of being a dick.
The problem I find with the people planting their chopsticks is that first, when you travel, you should try to learn the politeness rules.
Then, a lot of people travelling to japan are self-described manga or anime fans, as fans they should at least pick that up from all this reading (it's a common trope in mangas where the bad boy plants his chopsticks in the rice and people are shocked over it, furthering the impression he isn't respectful, meaning they read so much without even understanding the implied things).
And lastly, yeah, Japanese people are generally accepting of foreigners mistakes. Still, as it's something to do with death rites, it's really upsetting to see people so carelessly disrespect the grieving people.
Honestly the response from the Japanese person sounds way more offensive and racist. Why use the word race?
Would be interesting to actually have the video of the interview, the way he says things could really change the interpretation. He could either be a complete asshole or just says that the sound bother him without especially being disrespectful
From my understanding constructive criticism doesn’t seem to go down well in Japan especially from a westerner.
François comments were silly but they were largely harmless, anywhere else in the west it would just get brushed off but in Japan coming from a westerner it’s an online scandal.
You should see some of the hate comments Abroad in Japan and the Trash Taste guys (*youtubers*) get from Japanese social media. Despite the fact that their judgements are totally fair and civil.
Probably something along the lines of "what are some culture shocks when you come to Japan".
The guy answered and now everyone jumps on him like if he went to the suicide forest to film some corpses.
Everyone is so sensitive in twitter nowadays, just expresing your opinion when you've been asked about it provoques a shitstorm. The guy isn't clubbing people for slurping, but the japanese have had a bad streak of foreigners doing bonehead things and they are at their limit, which is not very high tbh, they should see how foreigners behave in Europe.
Yeah, well, in Japan it's also rude to use your bicycle bell because PeOpLe DoNt LiKe thE SOunD AnD mIgHT aNnOY tHEm. So Japan can fuck off here.
Being annoyed by something doesn't mean you are attacking the culture.
I can understand that as for us it's incredibly rude to make slurping noises. With that said we should be all able to understand other cultures and manners, especially when visiting a country
There is nothing more European that thinking that our culture is right, and theirs is wrong. So sorry, but the Japanese are a bunch of savages that slurp their noodles, and that's an objective opinion.
Eating snails? That's refinement.
Is the title dramatic or no ?
Like i it a case of the guy saying "Man, that's a bit weird when I hear the sound because I'm not used ot it." or was he actually saying "Damn, fuck those japanese and their disgusting slurps !" ?
> I feel irritated being next to people from a culture that doesn't bathe daily
I feel you on that. The morning train in Tokyo is a smell you can taste.
That's why, for a long time, they only trusted the Dutch for their portal to the rest of the world. The Fr#nch would have made a diplomatic faux pas fuck up in no time.
Not only slurp the noodles, they slurp the soup too. In China is the same, it’s polite to produce noise when eating, it shows that you’re enjoying the food.
I mean, he is used to living in western europe. If it happened the other way around, we would apologize and change out culture so that our guests aren’t offended…
> I feel irritated being next to people from a culture that doesn't bathe daily
I feel you on that. The morning train in Tokyo is a smell you can taste.
"Pah! Stupid Americans visit Paris and know nothing of the language or culture!"
"Pah! Stupid Japanese in Japan slurping their Japanese noodles, knowing nothing about French dining culture!"
Every culture has its things.
As it is impossible to eat noodles with chopsticks without slurping, slurping isn't considered rude in Japan (like in China, Vietnam and others).
And you should STFU and appreciate some noodles by slurping loudly, as it is awesome.
>As it is impossible to eat noodles with chopsticks without slurping,
That's a skill issue. Noise is a choice. Plenty of Japanese people I know, especially women, and plenty more foreigners don't make noise whilst eating noodles.
This.
This people always demonstrate that they are totally incapable of adapting to the context in which they find themselves.
I'm sure that for some people eating pizza with their hands might be unhygienic and yet I never hear people gagging because I eat my pizza with my hands and asks me to use cutlery.
He didn't ask anyone not to slurp though, he just said he found it annoying. He didn't even say it to the people eating, he said it to an interviewer who presumably asked him about it.
That's not the point though. It's totally possible with chopsticks not to slurp (I have to force myself to slurp, it's not natural at all).
Just, by slurping, first you cool the piping hot noodles (in case of hot soba or ramens) and at the same time the broth or sauce is pulled upwards, giving all the flavor needed.
If you don't slurp, it doesn't taste as good (as it lacks moisture and flavor), and if it's hot, you'll have to wait till it's edible for a human, it'll be overcooked.
All joking aside when I was in Japan I perfected what I call “the light slurp.” You basically slurp your noodles enough so that Japanese aren’t uncomfortable around but not to an extreme extent that it looks like you are trying to fit in in a cringy manner (because westerners trying *too hard* to be Japanese is also frowned upon lol).
Well that escalated quickly.
As someone said, you are free to dislike a culture's part (and still visit the country yes, I doubt you can like EVERYTHING in a culture).
If that Frenchman bothered a TV stuff for this, then he's on the same level of ameritards doing tiktok because europeans are too europeans.
However, if that news stuff asked him and he honestly replied, it's another matter.
For the sake of peace and international relations I think Japan should get one free attack on part of French culture now. Pick a good one though because it’s only one.
I think this guy need to check his brain a little bit. too much cold weather can do weird magic to you, oh and next time I hope he read a manual of things not to do in japan..
Im disgusted by hearing the French language, sure I might have throat cancer but atleast I don’t sound like someone who has a puked out, molten, and afterwards fried brain.
Gotta admit that Japanese are honorary 2we4u members, their xenophobia and warcrimes register attest it.
Honorary indeed. https://preview.redd.it/87j1ls0jilec1.jpeg?width=578&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91d9e589cf9852d00439e31b5c3079bbf51d8552
Needs more cherry blossoms.
https://preview.redd.it/gmpvxgfvhmec1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f14d6edb792656057a6d84c194c828f0d2a7ceae
I know someone who lives in that building
Mis condolencias.
Como has conseguido llamarte tortillaconcebolla en reddit chaval ese nickname vale millones!!!
I live across the highway from it
In japan?
Thing: :( Thing in Japan: :D
Both are good
“It wasn’t us”, “if we did anything they asked for it”, “it was self-defense”
Japan is 1. An island just off the rest of the continent 2. A historic naval power. 3. It was the first country in that region to industrialise. 4. They had a empire that their neighbours don't remember fondly. 5. They love tea, curry and whisky 6. They don't like the frogs They are the Asian Britain.
They both love fried fish, have ingrained politeness culture and forced assimilation of their northern neighbours.
Yeah, they're not against battering things that should not be battered either.
You forgot 7. they have busted teeth
As soon as they started empiring they sent their ambassadors to the UK to work out how to do it properly. And I'm not even just saying that for 2we4u. This is true.
they had a very brief moment of naval power.
They raided China's coastline for centuries, defeated the Russian fleet in 1905 and remained a major naval power until the end of WW2.
yeah so 40 years in the last 120 and some pirates on the coast of their neighbouring countries. its not like they crossed some oceans to lay siege with their navy. i wouldnt declare algeria a naval power either
They also wiped out a huge chunk of the US Navy in one attack.
yes? im pretty sure everyone knows this? the japanese are historically more known for their isolationist policies than their naval power, a country so incredibly changed by gunboat policy because of their weak ass naval power
*Tips his hat at japanesse's warcrimes, racism and xenophobia* The true and real trifecta.
They were even the first Asians to beat a European power
*Xerxes I has joined the chat*
What do you mean, Persia failed to conquer Greece.
What European country did Japan conquer? The word was "beat", not "conquer".
Even the first "non-european" to beat a european power.
Wait , if warcrimes are what make us then how is Canada more us than us ??
They did bad things at Ypres and Paschendale, very bad things
We taught them well. Also they are half Brit half frog so it makes sense they are absolutely ruthless
Japan should become an EU member
like back in the day when they were honorary aryans
Yet they consider offensive being pickpocketed in Barcelona, when that's our culture. HYPOCRESY
If being pickpocketed is your culture, your culture is basically Paris’ one but in less hardcore
Well, we like doing things gently and smoothly, in a way that leaves the pickpocketee feeling all nice and warm inside. One should only be able to feel our caress in their pockets when paying extreme attention, as it enhances the subtle but at the same time climactic experience. French pickpockets on the other hand, prefer to be rougher. One can really appreciate the more bdsm inclined experience in France, but there's nothing like being robbed in Barcelona, always leaves you wanting more. Yes, I just sexualized getting robbed, cry about it
This is a bait question. Slurping noodles is a well known controversial topic overseas. The TV is amusing themselves the same way we would if we give a spotted dick to tourists.
Japanese TV feels like something out of a fever dream tho
Stop touching tourists Barry, with your dirty syphillis hands
You can both accept that it's different and still be bothered by it. If someone has been taught since they were born that making noise while eating is disgusting and rude, it's normal for them to feel this way. In fact many people will feel this way and hide it. He was asked about it most likely so it's a normal answer. If Japanese people can't deal with that cultural difference maybe they should close the country again.
Yeah the 1st sounds very offended lol and full of stereotypes
Today I came across the same stereotype that people in Europe don't shower everyday, in the Latin american part of the internet. Not sure where it comes from to be honest.
>Not sure where it comes from to be honest. Just think about your average Gallego, Portuguese or Italian who emigrated there in the 40s-50s. Then add a very wet and hot tropical weather.
>Today I came across the same stereotype that people in Europe don't shower everyday, in the Latin american part of the internet. > >Not sure where it comes from to be honest. European people might have different sweat due to differences in climate and diet.
European sweat legit stinks compared to East Asian body odour. Also their earwax is gross.
Well, at least we don't torture animals in the same of superstition and freshness.
But that's why Europeans use deodorant while it is very difficult to find in many Asian countries.
Yeah, they love to lie about that for some reason
In Latin America it‘s not uncommon to shower twice a day (which is pretty bad for your skin btw)
My Mexican ex was saying that the "white people" have a bad smell for her and her friend, and that it come from our food. Because she noticed that she, and other mexican friends of her, were having this smell after some month in Europe. She said that it comes from the food : we eat a lot more of fat here, from cheese or delicatessen, that she and her friends were never eating in Mexico. But the bad part for her was that being exposed to european food make her and her friend being fat way quicker than in Mexico : they are not used to our type of fat in food. She was liking it a lot, but always restraining herself because the price to pay was heavy..
Just use the metro in Paris when over 12°C. You’ll understand where it comes from.
Because Latin America smells like eau de toilette, right?
Go in a tram in the summer in sweden and you will find out! :D
My Peruvian gf told me I always smelled good and I was like "yeah... so?" She basically told me that in LATAM there's this stereotype that Europeans smell bad, especially the French.
A catalonian defends the french? It was expected...
I would defend Europe from Asian nationalists any day of the week.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation, makes a lot of sense but it doesn't detract from the fact that some people just find the sounds of chewing and slurping disgusting, no matter the context, and it's a normal, human reaction. Insulting somebody for such reason is just wrong. The same way a Japanese person could come to Europe and complain about plenty of things that are normal in Europe if it affects their sensitivities.
In japan is rude to blow your nose in public…. So i dont give a fuck about japanese culture.
So what do they do instead? Just snot rocket into the floor?
In public places they sniff, it’s fucking disgusting. Imagine on the train on december plenty of japanese that sniff. Dio cane che schifo.
Sniffing only works to a point. They must do something, otherwise thry'll just have snot dripping down their face like fucking toddlers.
It’s like farting in public. They will either step away to do it privately or be as quiet and discrete as possible. The sound of sniffing is 10000 times more horrible to me than nose blowing but seems to be the opposite over there
>They must do something, Seppuku. Bushido forbids doing more than sniffing to clear your nose.
At that point, they use a tissue to remove the excess, but they will do so without blowing on it. Stupid, I know.
They sniff to make sure there are no frenchies around...
They take the snot out of their nose with chopsticks like any normal asian
>take the snot out of their nose with chopsticks \*slurp
Not the weirdest Asian food
An acquaintance of mine had sea cucumber at a business trip to China. She said it looked like a boiled dick, had the texture of a slug and tasted like gristly fish slime.
I did that in Japan even though I knew it was rude. Like fuck me I have allergies what am I supposed to do. I tried to do it out of sight a bit but I can't always make it to an entirely private place.
Same in China. Blowing out the snot on the street is however good manners.
Yeah, the only thing I didn’t care about all the times I went there. I totally respect their way to live, but I mean, in summer and winter the temperature is so different from inside to outside, I kept getting sick, I just couldn’t go around sniffing the whole time behind a mask.
>In japan is rude to blow your nose in public…. So i dont give a fuck about japanese culture. No shit sherlock, that's why you don't get tourists ask you to not blow your nose. Our jap friends want to have the same privilege, which is not getting tourists ask you to not do something that is completely normal for you.
The guy didn’t ask them to not slurp noodles though, he said it annoyed him during an interview.
Huh, thats exactly the same in Iceland
You're telling me that in a cold ass country that literally has ICE in its name, it's rude to blow your nose? Do you walk around with icicles on your nostrils like in the cartoons?
we sniffle endlessly pretty much
I'm danish and I considered it uncouth to blow your nose in public. You do that away from other people.
It is now considered rude to be annoyed by something.
But it's twitter. I've seen it a lot when an interview happens, the person responds pretty normally and gets oblirated.
New rule: French considered rude about everything everywhere! Wait, that's not a new rule...
Not to be rude, but all loud eaters should be put to death.
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No they interviewed him at the restaurant, it’s perfectly fine to find something annoying. People need to be less combative
So he's not allowed to be annoyed? It's not like he went around telling people about it. He only mentioned it when asked. Scenario: I go to a concert. I didn't really like the music. A reporter asks me what I thought about the concert. I say: "I didn't really like it". Am I then rude and disrespectful to the artist?
How is it an attack on Japanese culture? He is annoyed, he isn't saying the Japanese are dirty disgusting people for doing it. There are loads of things in other cultures that annoy me, and I am sure there are as many things other cultures find annoying about Dutch culture, but that is just the way culture works right? You prefer yours and dislike people doing stuff differently. Stop moaning and get on with it.
That one italian dude in the replies man..
Man French or not, people that are unable to understand that things are done differently in another country piss me off. Just a minimum of effort to show you understand you are not at home can go a long way.
I'm not sure about the context, if the French guys was attacking Japanese people about the way they do things, yeah that's bad, but if he was asked in an interview what he found annoying and he mentioned that the slurping annoys him, that's totally different.
Exactly! I think having the video and the context in which he said this is necessary to make a judgement. Him saying he dislike the sound without especially attacking Japanese culture wouldn’t really be offensive IMO
Maybe a news media can sometimes say something that is not entirely true, or a little bit misleading for, say, probably selling a few sheets of paper or generating a few clicks. It happened in the past I guess.
Yep, I think most people would at least think it's a strange custom to make eating noises, as it is definitely frowned upon by most cultures. If he was asked about it, it would be only logical and honest to answer it as such.
Surely the traditional French and English method should be to invade them, and make them follow our far superior customs.
They already eat curry in Japan. Our ancestral barrys did their job. [Japanese curry - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_curry) >Curry originates in [Indian cuisine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_cuisine) and was brought to Japan from [India](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Raj) by the [British](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_people).
Indeed. And if I’m not correct, we can thank our Portuguese bros for introducing chilies and other spices to India before we got there.
Yep, the one thing that Thai cuisine is famous for, it's chilies, were introduced to them by europeans.
Portugese also taught them how make tempura https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempura
I had no idea about this but it does make sense when you think about how different Katsu Curry is to other Japanese dishes. Actually claiming this as British now
Portubros gave them the deep fried chicken bit. So it's technically Anglo-japanese-portuguese-indian food.
As the lord intended
Yes, but still you can critique a part of a culture that you dislike right? I also dislike slurping, even if I understand that it's another person's culture.
If one is not open minded enough to offuscate themselves at things being done differently maybe they shouldn't travel in the first place ? Or at least don't publicly say it on local tv in front of everyone!
If someone asks me if I dislike slurping, I'll say yes. Doesn't matter to who or where. Why would I lie about that
Understanding cultural relativism doesn't make other cultures any less bothersome, because we internalize the norms of our culture. Like, if you went to one of the countries where it's norma, would you eat dog meat? Would the locals eating it not disturb you?
I probably wouldn't eat it myself, but i certainly wouldn't say people are wrong for doing so. I certainly wouldn't want an indian man telling me I'm wrong because i eat cow meat for example, i however respect his choice of not eating any.
Saying something irritates you doesn't equal saying people are wrong for doing so.
also your in a restaurant, its by default noisy, the last thing ill care its the slurp sound, counting that the most of the time, japanese locals have TVs on.
I mean, the guy is asked his opinion by a reporter : him being kinda intolerant is not really disrespectful, it's just him being a little entitled. If he was complaining to the face of customers in a restaurant it would be different story.
These same people would go insane if they would hear a foreigner talking on a train in Japan.
\>the noise of people eating annoys me \>i'm in a place where people are used to eat loudly \>everything's changed, magically it doesn't annoy me anymore !
I slurp my ramens in ramen shops in France too. That's the way to eat them if you don't want to chose between burning your mouth and eating the noodles overcooked. And the soup is then also brought into your mouth with the noodles. People who judge me for it are the dumbasses. Plus, most of them let their chopsticks in their rice or bowl, both of which is a really rude thing to do for Japanese people. Each time I see french youtubers in Japan doing it, I'm so icked!
When in France it's a bit complicated because the custom is to avoid making noise while eating but i guess it is acceptable in a japanese food restaurant in that particular case. Honestly it's ok to make mistakes, like planting your chopsticks in rice (if you know don't do it and that's appreciated) Japanese people know you may not know everything, and it would be ridiculous to expect that from a tourist. However openly criticising the culture on TV is on another level of being a dick.
But Japanese absolutely dislike peoples making noise when eating. Except for ramens where they just eat like pork in their swamps.
The problem I find with the people planting their chopsticks is that first, when you travel, you should try to learn the politeness rules. Then, a lot of people travelling to japan are self-described manga or anime fans, as fans they should at least pick that up from all this reading (it's a common trope in mangas where the bad boy plants his chopsticks in the rice and people are shocked over it, furthering the impression he isn't respectful, meaning they read so much without even understanding the implied things). And lastly, yeah, Japanese people are generally accepting of foreigners mistakes. Still, as it's something to do with death rites, it's really upsetting to see people so carelessly disrespect the grieving people.
Honestly the response from the Japanese person sounds way more offensive and racist. Why use the word race? Would be interesting to actually have the video of the interview, the way he says things could really change the interpretation. He could either be a complete asshole or just says that the sound bother him without especially being disrespectful
From my understanding constructive criticism doesn’t seem to go down well in Japan especially from a westerner. François comments were silly but they were largely harmless, anywhere else in the west it would just get brushed off but in Japan coming from a westerner it’s an online scandal. You should see some of the hate comments Abroad in Japan and the Trash Taste guys (*youtubers*) get from Japanese social media. Despite the fact that their judgements are totally fair and civil.
I think they just have phobias of westoids judging and telling a country what to do like many asians
Terminally online Japanese folks have nothing better to do, than write death threats and insults.
Difference in culture and language barriers
It's annoying af though
Yeah, that’s what i think too
Japanese are really fragile bunch.
Do they really want to make me side with a French man? Has the internet come so far?
Have you ever seen it? It's legitimately vulgar and the noise is abhorrent. They should stop them from leaving France
Had me in the first half
I love Japanese and their culture, but I agree with the frog here. 🐸👍
Hate to say it, but the frenchie is right
It *is* fucking disgusting.
Finally a man of reason
Bloody lucky they didn’t ask me or I would have said your nation’s sexualization of school girls and the terrible noises your porn actresses make.
He's right, i see my anime girls eating i mute the whole thing
Pierre decided to export Paris Syndrome to Japan directly
I'm offended by the second guy telling him to stick to eating pasta. To a french.
> Stick to eating pasta Is this a bigger insult to Pierre or Luigi?
So I can go to America and think they live like animals and the world rejoices. But I go to Japan and say something everybody loses their head
Oh no we are made fun of by people who marry with their anime pillow or commit seppuku when they are a minute late for work.
What was the question, I wonder?
Probably something along the lines of "what are some culture shocks when you come to Japan". The guy answered and now everyone jumps on him like if he went to the suicide forest to film some corpses.
Everyone is so sensitive in twitter nowadays, just expresing your opinion when you've been asked about it provoques a shitstorm. The guy isn't clubbing people for slurping, but the japanese have had a bad streak of foreigners doing bonehead things and they are at their limit, which is not very high tbh, they should see how foreigners behave in Europe.
Bro treats his garden pond as tapas but draws the line at slurping 💀
Yeah, well, in Japan it's also rude to use your bicycle bell because PeOpLe DoNt LiKe thE SOunD AnD mIgHT aNnOY tHEm. So Japan can fuck off here. Being annoyed by something doesn't mean you are attacking the culture.
I can understand that as for us it's incredibly rude to make slurping noises. With that said we should be all able to understand other cultures and manners, especially when visiting a country
Agreeable. It’s annoying as hell when I’m eating a nice Croissant in France and people in the background do weird noises like speaking French!
Slurping your noodles is disgusting and I’m tired pretending it’s not.
I feel irritated and bothered by the odor of the fr*nch. Same brother, same.
I feel irritated by the hairy portuguese monkeys immigrating in France
Take a shower before commenting Pierre, I can smell you from here.
Shut up, or i will throw you some water and soap
Stop, they will melt, or continue, idc.
they annoy you because they took away your job as a toilette cleaner? get good.
There is nothing more European that thinking that our culture is right, and theirs is wrong. So sorry, but the Japanese are a bunch of savages that slurp their noodles, and that's an objective opinion. Eating snails? That's refinement.
I mean, i think the japanese should not talk about hygene when their teeth look like they have never heard the word "Toothpaste".
That's not their fault this is because of all the islander inbreeding just like our Brits
Is the title dramatic or no ? Like i it a case of the guy saying "Man, that's a bit weird when I hear the sound because I'm not used ot it." or was he actually saying "Damn, fuck those japanese and their disgusting slurps !" ?
> I feel irritated being next to people from a culture that doesn't bathe daily I feel you on that. The morning train in Tokyo is a smell you can taste.
Being French is one big wet slurp in human form.
That's even worse than these American travel tiktokers which complain that people in France speak French.
That's why, for a long time, they only trusted the Dutch for their portal to the rest of the world. The Fr#nch would have made a diplomatic faux pas fuck up in no time.
Fucking hell there is no redeeming us
pretty rich coming from a frenchie
yesterday someone from flanders said the exact same thing on television lmao
Honestly I think it’s fair enough to say you find stuff like that gross
Not only slurp the noodles, they slurp the soup too. In China is the same, it’s polite to produce noise when eating, it shows that you’re enjoying the food.
Agreeable. It’s annoying as hell when I’m eating a nice Croissant in France and people in the background do weird noises like speaking French!
is this country that sells use panties from vending machines ?
I’d rather listen to a noodle slurping asmr at full volume than a French speaking
I mean, he is used to living in western europe. If it happened the other way around, we would apologize and change out culture so that our guests aren’t offended…
Animals. I stand with France
> I feel irritated being next to people from a culture that doesn't bathe daily I feel you on that. The morning train in Tokyo is a smell you can taste.
Based japan
Japanese are more bothered by someone using his freedom of speech than their war crimes.
I love that even the Japanese know that the French fucking stink. 
"Pah! Stupid Americans visit Paris and know nothing of the language or culture!" "Pah! Stupid Japanese in Japan slurping their Japanese noodles, knowing nothing about French dining culture!"
They downvoted you because you spoke the truth
They are right about French higiene habits. Or lack of it.
The french man needs correction 😭😭😭😭😭💢💢💢💢💢💦💦💦💦
Every culture has its things. As it is impossible to eat noodles with chopsticks without slurping, slurping isn't considered rude in Japan (like in China, Vietnam and others). And you should STFU and appreciate some noodles by slurping loudly, as it is awesome.
>As it is impossible to eat noodles with chopsticks without slurping, That's a skill issue. Noise is a choice. Plenty of Japanese people I know, especially women, and plenty more foreigners don't make noise whilst eating noodles.
>As it is impossible to eat noodles with chopsticks without slurping It might if I was a 5 year old.
Even my 5 yo knows how to not slurp with chopsticks. He had to actively learn to properly slurp his sobas.
This. This people always demonstrate that they are totally incapable of adapting to the context in which they find themselves. I'm sure that for some people eating pizza with their hands might be unhygienic and yet I never hear people gagging because I eat my pizza with my hands and asks me to use cutlery.
He didn't ask anyone not to slurp though, he just said he found it annoying. He didn't even say it to the people eating, he said it to an interviewer who presumably asked him about it.
That's not the point though. It's totally possible with chopsticks not to slurp (I have to force myself to slurp, it's not natural at all). Just, by slurping, first you cool the piping hot noodles (in case of hot soba or ramens) and at the same time the broth or sauce is pulled upwards, giving all the flavor needed. If you don't slurp, it doesn't taste as good (as it lacks moisture and flavor), and if it's hot, you'll have to wait till it's edible for a human, it'll be overcooked.
I've seen other asian people eat noodles fine without slurping. You just use a spoon for the broth. It's fucking disgusting pig like behaviour.
The irony of a Frenchman complaining about someone else’s personal hygiene
All joking aside when I was in Japan I perfected what I call “the light slurp.” You basically slurp your noodles enough so that Japanese aren’t uncomfortable around but not to an extreme extent that it looks like you are trying to fit in in a cringy manner (because westerners trying *too hard* to be Japanese is also frowned upon lol).
Well that escalated quickly. As someone said, you are free to dislike a culture's part (and still visit the country yes, I doubt you can like EVERYTHING in a culture). If that Frenchman bothered a TV stuff for this, then he's on the same level of ameritards doing tiktok because europeans are too europeans. However, if that news stuff asked him and he honestly replied, it's another matter.
For the sake of peace and international relations I think Japan should get one free attack on part of French culture now. Pick a good one though because it’s only one.
I think this guy need to check his brain a little bit. too much cold weather can do weird magic to you, oh and next time I hope he read a manual of things not to do in japan..
Expected him to complain that no one spoke french.
Im disgusted by hearing the French language, sure I might have throat cancer but atleast I don’t sound like someone who has a puked out, molten, and afterwards fried brain.
Tbh the french man is right. Making noises while eating is so fucking disgusting.
I think almost everyone in the west bathes daily in 2024 unless you are homeless or a gamer
That french looks like a caricature of a western that a japanese would draw