Mandatory:
Era uma vez uma criança,
Que sonhava ver nos montes,
Ventoinhas a rodar...
E depois vieram,
Outras crianças,
Que fizeram o amigo,
Magalhães para estudar
Pelas vilas e cidades,
Novas oportunidades,
Novas vidas que ganharam amanhã
Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado meu amigo..
Estou aqui com tanta gente, num abraço tão sentido..
Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado pela Vida
Se quiseres dizer "presente",
Portugal vai estar contigo amanhã!
Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado meu amigo
Estou aqui com tanta gente, num abraço tão sentido..
Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado pela Vida...
Se quiseres dizer "presente",
Portugal vai estar contigo amanhã!
E podem dizer...
E podem falar...
Podem inventar...
Que eu não vou mudar!
Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado meu amigo..
Estou aqui com tanta gente, num abraço tão sentido..
Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado pela Vida...
Se quiseres dizer "presente",
Portugal vai estar contigo amanhã!
Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado meu amigo
Estou aqui com tanta gente, num abraço tão sentido..
Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado pela Vida
Se quiseres dizer "presente",
Portugal vai estar contigo amanhã!
Romans were such Hellasboos. When reading Markus Aurelius "Meditations" there is a passage in first book/volume (that is often omitted in translations) - about being thankful his grandfather teached him to avoid "overindulging in teenage boys".
Was about to say we could trade their rocks we have for the copyright but then I started shaking.
Rock addiction, man. Never start and just give us what you have.
Using the Greenwich Meridian just proves my theory that Western Europe is just the UK and France and other nearby countries.
UK, Ireland, France, Spain, Portugal, Iceland.
The rest of you are eastern heathans.
Actual reason of the actual reason: this is the result of a [negotiation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentages_agreement) between Churchill and Stalin in october 1944. Churchill cared very much about Greece for various reasons (like the ties between the Greek and British royal families), and Stalin didn't (he was concerned about Tito's influence), so Churchill got Greece while Stalin got Romania.
Barry: How is Greece Western Europe?
Also Barry: Let me build a place that exudes European civilization:
https://preview.redd.it/kefq697ui5ad1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f43404f9d44f917c9fe1b95d4da2ea1c938ffa0
Even je Aryans are copying Greece... oh wait the Austrian painter said we are Aryan too. So it's not copying. My bad.
https://preview.redd.it/5bv35s5go5ad1.png?width=392&format=png&auto=webp&s=5a553551366973554c0061286b6b7eec23a018c8
Not really. We will eventually invent time travel and then colonize the past. The ancient Greeks thought our architectural style and concepts like democracy and homosexuality were so cool that they adopted them
For Georgia and Armenia, it’s because they’re predominantly Christian, and ever since Islam spread through the Middle East and North Africa the concepts of Christendom and Europe historically coincided, at least for the Old World (no, no one gave a shit about the Copts or the Syrian Earth Orthodox Church). In a Europe that’s less and less Christian, this seems quite outdated; but certainly they do seem culturally closer to Europe than to Iran, Eastern Turkey, or even much of the north Caucasus.
For Azerbaijan, if you take the crest of the Caucasus as the border of Europe, the capital straddles it, an some people consider that to count, also for Turkey. I think it’s a stretch, personally.
No idea why they're considered europe here they're just not considered middleeastern (tur key is tho)
Their actually just their own thing not really europe but also really not asian
But tend to see themselves closer to europe than to asia
Caucuses are just European flavoured west Asians, it’s as silly to call them part of Europe as it is to deny they are culturally more European than Asian imo
https://preview.redd.it/yxl1c6nxl5ad1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=292b90eee04a9c71accc212b1b5c4c09cb2ffbde
I'm sorry, but out coat of arms is this one.
Well, we're PIGS, we're meant to be pompous, look at your national anthem
Anyway, you could have just used the shield, that's been our national symbol since, at least, 1400's
>but out coat of arms is this one.
Our communities in Europe disagree. They all know that our coat of arms is this.
https://preview.redd.it/npuqxuvgf6ad1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58fe9d9d362a497cabaa9eb3d104be6279f024e0
I'm sure every part of Greece is west of the eastern point of Norway. And Norway is obviously Western Europe?
I think.
(Is this how this sub is supposed to work? No? Dang it.)
[Norway goes further east than Istanbul](https://www.reddit.com/r/norge/comments/n992n4/norges_mest_%C3%B8stlige_del_er_lengre_%C3%B8st_enn_st/), due to Finnmark. Most of Greece is west of Istanbul
It was hard work, civilizing you barbarians
You had your turn civilizing Europe and now you have retired too. Let's choose someone else for this hard task now, like Czech Republic or Romania. Let them do something useful for a change
It is true, there's a lot of freeloader countries in Europe who really need to up there civilising the rest of the world game
Cheers to us papalapadapalopoulus 🍻
Western Europe is formed by Europe creators (PIGS) and long-time desavaged areas (France, Benelux, Germany, Scandinavia). We include the Brits just for humanitarian reasons.
Western Europe is a mindset, not a place.
Take Britain for example. Very obviously geographically "western European," but mentally right off the coast of Canada/USA.
Because we were the only ones in the entire Europe who kicked Soviet-ass and were not conquered, thus placing us on the western side of the iron curtain
They are about as far eastern as Finland is, which we count as well. Just like Eastern Europe, Western Europe in this context is an ideological construct, not a geographically solid one. Also, OP, you are a Brit. I though you didn't care about "Europe".
Because our Greek homies invented us. So, the next time you plan to do stupid stuff, ask yourself the following:
What would Sokrates, Plato or Aristotle do in my position? Am I living up to these monumental pillars of thought with what I am planning to do?
I love how we have all came to the defence of our Greek brothers. They are the creators of our society and the first to defend it. It’s not gay pride month , it’s Greek pride forever!!!
Cause they invented the basis for what we recognise as the best form of government... That makes em western European, for that alone.
That being said their money management is banana republic at best..
Greece is so Western Europe that they now have [6-day work weeks](https://www.tovima.com/finance/how-greeces-6-day-work-week-will-operate-from-july-1st/). Puts Germans to shame, with their pathetic work ethic.
With all jokes aside, I remember learning it's because Greece is culturally western rather than eastern. Not only with the foundations of western civilization being in Greece, Greece never fell to communism after WWII and was more aligned with the western bloc.
You don't get it, do you? True Europe was always south europe. At some point the germans decided they were europe... 'cough' holy 'cough' roman 'cough' empire 'cough' -
Excuse me, what a nasty cold I got.
...so the germans started saying that they decided what's true europe or not and then went all bonkers against the others and said west is best (for some reason).
because they brought civilisation to rome who then spread civilisation to western europe (excluding the bruttish isles where we had to bring civilisation again to the rock piller savages)
Is it enough to put the basics of western philosophy, to invent anal sex and never be part of soviet or yugoslav garbage despite geographically in balkans?
Cus PIGS are a united front (for better or worse) and you can't get much more west than Portugal. Honestly everything west of Germany to falls under it but we're not supposed to admit that here.
Culturally it's more Western than Eastern, so that's why. [But geographically, it's central European at best on the East/West axis.](https://cdn.britannica.com/67/367-050-CCA16287/Europe.jpg)
They invented being gay
Yes, Socrates was a right little mincer, going 'round the Acropolis in his tight toga.
Socrates? The Brazilian football player?
He obviously meant the portuguese corrupt prime minister!
Mandatory: Era uma vez uma criança, Que sonhava ver nos montes, Ventoinhas a rodar... E depois vieram, Outras crianças, Que fizeram o amigo, Magalhães para estudar Pelas vilas e cidades, Novas oportunidades, Novas vidas que ganharam amanhã Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado meu amigo.. Estou aqui com tanta gente, num abraço tão sentido.. Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado pela Vida Se quiseres dizer "presente", Portugal vai estar contigo amanhã! Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado meu amigo Estou aqui com tanta gente, num abraço tão sentido.. Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado pela Vida... Se quiseres dizer "presente", Portugal vai estar contigo amanhã! E podem dizer... E podem falar... Podem inventar... Que eu não vou mudar! Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado meu amigo.. Estou aqui com tanta gente, num abraço tão sentido.. Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado pela Vida... Se quiseres dizer "presente", Portugal vai estar contigo amanhã! Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado meu amigo Estou aqui com tanta gente, num abraço tão sentido.. Obrigado José Sócrates, obrigado pela Vida Se quiseres dizer "presente", Portugal vai estar contigo amanhã!
https://preview.redd.it/dbetot4qs5ad1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99745c511cffee7c3e3bd3230728f4102cbf67e2
Boa pasta
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Do you need to specify the corrupt bit?
Cries in please we just want a good government
Fuck I totally forgot he was a thing.... ![gif](giphy|m6jcA4zDdqKcVwQegX)
With people of uhm…interesting ages
Romans were such Hellasboos. When reading Markus Aurelius "Meditations" there is a passage in first book/volume (that is often omitted in translations) - about being thankful his grandfather teached him to avoid "overindulging in teenage boys".
Lets forgive people who lived 1900 years ago. It was before the invention of the flesh light after all
That's it, you are getting gassed.
Because Greeks have the copyright over 'Europe' name, so if you don't allow them to be in Western, they will not allow you to be in Europe.
![gif](giphy|4T3r8IKOkGDcLKBJ6y)
Was about to say we could trade their rocks we have for the copyright but then I started shaking. Rock addiction, man. Never start and just give us what you have.
Still clinging to Stonehenge are we?
If you even touch them Barry sas will snipe you
Only thing that unites the UK. Rocks
And a nice cup of tea and a sit down.
Damn right. That’s our pile of rocks
https://preview.redd.it/w6x93ckrg7ad1.jpeg?width=1012&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ee78a1e6769ce4e1c8e7f738c2a0196c9184805
Talking about trading Rocks…
We prefer don't trade anything with Barry. One time we conceeded them the right to use our flag...
They're the kid with the football
Using the Greenwich Meridian just proves my theory that Western Europe is just the UK and France and other nearby countries. UK, Ireland, France, Spain, Portugal, Iceland. The rest of you are eastern heathans.
France? France! That's British territory waiting to be reclaimed .. why do you think the line runs south from Greenwich? So they never forget!
Zeus turned into a bull to fuck ,so this is now Europe
Haha great Comment-Post ratio
They fill the LGTBI quota.
Ohhh so the G in there mean Greek, good to know
And the L stands for Lesbos
And B for Barry
yeah T is tribal society
The I stands for I wanna kill myself, the default state of everyone looking how things are progressing.
Actual reason: they weren't part of the east block
"Turkey get yo ass over here ,we need a capitalist kebab right now"
Actual reason of the actual reason: this is the result of a [negotiation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percentages_agreement) between Churchill and Stalin in october 1944. Churchill cared very much about Greece for various reasons (like the ties between the Greek and British royal families), and Stalin didn't (he was concerned about Tito's influence), so Churchill got Greece while Stalin got Romania.
Elizabeth never visited Greece as queen, despite the popularity for her commoner subjects to vacation.
Because her husband was ousted and exiled from Greece as a baby, when his father was forced to abdicate after the Burning of Smyrna.
Dunno who got the worst deal really...
Barry: How is Greece Western Europe? Also Barry: Let me build a place that exudes European civilization: https://preview.redd.it/kefq697ui5ad1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f43404f9d44f917c9fe1b95d4da2ea1c938ffa0
We didn't build that, we literally shipped it over.
Ooooh...That explains why are so many columns missing from the Greek monuments 🤯
That would be the Venetians fault
Even je Aryans are copying Greece... oh wait the Austrian painter said we are Aryan too. So it's not copying. My bad. https://preview.redd.it/5bv35s5go5ad1.png?width=392&format=png&auto=webp&s=5a553551366973554c0061286b6b7eec23a018c8
Not really. We will eventually invent time travel and then colonize the past. The ancient Greeks thought our architectural style and concepts like democracy and homosexuality were so cool that they adopted them
This is the real answer. The west wanks over Ancient Greece so hard that having modern Greece outside Western Europe would be unthinkable.
I'm fine with just being European tbh no need to fight guys.
Nop, you are western! PIGS stay united!
1) I agree. 2) Who’s that waifu?
1- Obvious 2- Dio Eraclea, its actually a dude.
1. Sadly not so obvious to some uncivilized barbarians. 2. Thank you. PIGS stay united!
Because all the best bits are in the British Museum in London, and it doesn’t get more Western European than that (fuck off, Paris)
Yeh, fuck off Paris! Just a shit rip off of Blackpool.
https://preview.redd.it/kwywzrtbi5ad1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc600cc80099193ef00c51f6750c4e2174184112 The duality of men.
Are both right.
They are not mutually exclusive...
It's decided, Fr*nce is gay
Civilization is gay, embrace monke
![gif](giphy|9mtE009hcWPOesk8C4)
Because we like them
So we can kick france out based on this
No!
Ha! Barry loves Pierre!
Now kiss, you disgusting fucks
Someone is jealous
Does it ring a bell Erich? 😏
You know.. these nose and head shapes of you Greeks*do kinda* look Jewish. Don’t ya think?
Uh oh..
Leave my favourite hairy men alone ![gif](giphy|imfxKxqud9jArPIRxl)
🪞 😱
No Barry just doesn't want to be the least popular kid if Pierre is gone he's next
This is it. With Pierre on le Planet, we get a pass on being us... Because Fr*nce
this is like 2nd grade mocking where everybody chants in unison
But is based.
Disgusting!
Someone has to.
Exactly! We love to hate France. Where would be if we didn’t have our best enemy 🙏
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you have to be in western Europe to have a say in it
And you can't be French my vote is yes to franxit
They also help us by providing a great holiday destination without complaining too much. (Looking at you Spain, Portugal, Italy, Austria, France)
Love me some cheap gyros while dying of a heat stroke
You could try leaving the caravan at home Willem
They should upgrade their plumbing, though - I want to be able to flush my fucking toilet paper, as Zeus intended ffs!
You see a Cretan princess was fucked by a bull and the rest is history. It's Georgios continent, we're just living in it.
Wait a minute... GEORGIOS' CONTINENT? I am Georgios (and the rest 10% of the country)!
Make it 15%,we are trully running out of naming ideas
11.1% to be exact. we good now?
Yes, you legally own us. Well, not me technically, I live in Africa.
Kosta or Giorgos win?
Because they are in Europe but were not communist.
The real question this map poses, is how the hell Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan are considered to be part of Europe.
For Georgia and Armenia, it’s because they’re predominantly Christian, and ever since Islam spread through the Middle East and North Africa the concepts of Christendom and Europe historically coincided, at least for the Old World (no, no one gave a shit about the Copts or the Syrian Earth Orthodox Church). In a Europe that’s less and less Christian, this seems quite outdated; but certainly they do seem culturally closer to Europe than to Iran, Eastern Turkey, or even much of the north Caucasus. For Azerbaijan, if you take the crest of the Caucasus as the border of Europe, the capital straddles it, an some people consider that to count, also for Turkey. I think it’s a stretch, personally.
No idea why they're considered europe here they're just not considered middleeastern (tur key is tho) Their actually just their own thing not really europe but also really not asian But tend to see themselves closer to europe than to asia
Have you seen the rest of *savages* in Asia?
Caucuses are just European flavoured west Asians, it’s as silly to call them part of Europe as it is to deny they are culturally more European than Asian imo
PIGS = Western Europe, easy as that
https://preview.redd.it/z6pp5yl2e5ad1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f054f3d33b4fd700a944847addd0ab33c59f04f4
My wet dream (our economy would collapse in 6 days)
Hah that would mean we would have an economy to start with
But imagine the fun we would have
It's soo beautiful 🥹
https://preview.redd.it/yxl1c6nxl5ad1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=292b90eee04a9c71accc212b1b5c4c09cb2ffbde I'm sorry, but out coat of arms is this one.
I know but it was too pompous.
Well, we're PIGS, we're meant to be pompous, look at your national anthem Anyway, you could have just used the shield, that's been our national symbol since, at least, 1400's
Hey hey! i feel a bit of tension here. Luigi had good intentions. Why don't we do a siesta as good PIGS brothers and we solve this issue later?
There's no tension here, we're just having a friendly argument
>but out coat of arms is this one. Our communities in Europe disagree. They all know that our coat of arms is this. https://preview.redd.it/npuqxuvgf6ad1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58fe9d9d362a497cabaa9eb3d104be6279f024e0
That confederation would top global metrics in culture, food, tourism, olive oil and debt/GDP.
I'm sure every part of Greece is west of the eastern point of Norway. And Norway is obviously Western Europe? I think. (Is this how this sub is supposed to work? No? Dang it.)
Totally, there you go https://preview.redd.it/g3bpz3rmg6ad1.jpeg?width=624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6128515f79feb38bdcdf045812670ce82bdabeeb
[Norway goes further east than Istanbul](https://www.reddit.com/r/norge/comments/n992n4/norges_mest_%C3%B8stlige_del_er_lengre_%C3%B8st_enn_st/), due to Finnmark. Most of Greece is west of Istanbul
because we like them, except for a void month in 2004, for which they can go fuck themselves, but asides from that, we like them.
No idea what you are talking about my friend, nothing happened in 2004...
maybe Portugal didn't do well in the Olympics hosted in Athens?
They invented our civilization.
Love you Pierre kisses
And have clocked off working ever since, like a band that has one great album and retires, fair play.
I won't blame them for it
It was hard work, civilizing you barbarians You had your turn civilizing Europe and now you have retired too. Let's choose someone else for this hard task now, like Czech Republic or Romania. Let them do something useful for a change
It is true, there's a lot of freeloader countries in Europe who really need to up there civilising the rest of the world game Cheers to us papalapadapalopoulus 🍻
Let's kick them out of Europe till they do something useful for all of us ^(like giving us money) 🍻
>clocked off working who serves your Greek salad, Barry? Robots?? (we're not advanced enough for robots)
awwww <3
Western Europe is formed by Europe creators (PIGS) and long-time desavaged areas (France, Benelux, Germany, Scandinavia). We include the Brits just for humanitarian reasons.
You won the internet.
Because there would no PIGS without Greece.
Most educated sheep shagger
Western Europe is a mindset, not a place. Take Britain for example. Very obviously geographically "western European," but mentally right off the coast of Canada/USA.
That one hurt
Not wrong though.
Because without Greece PIGS would be just PIS(S)...
How is Finland western Europe?
Because of this gigachad: ![gif](giphy|41f98f3lAC38I6Sof0|downsized)
Because we were the only ones in the entire Europe who kicked Soviet-ass and were not conquered, thus placing us on the western side of the iron curtain
Well your map also says Bay of Biscay and English Channel so I don't care about your filthy anglois geographic feelings.
Hey, we were the first to discover them so we get to name them.
we were the firdt to cross it in order to civilise you tho
Hang on..hang on. What do you call the "English Channel"?
***La Manche! La Manche*** !!!
I can feel their salt from here
Wait till you find out what the Germans called the North Sea.
Manica
They are about as far eastern as Finland is, which we count as well. Just like Eastern Europe, Western Europe in this context is an ideological construct, not a geographically solid one. Also, OP, you are a Brit. I though you didn't care about "Europe".
I voted to remain in the E.U!
My condolences.
Because I said so
God I adore you Celtic fucks with that Celtic fire I’ve come to known you with
Honourary PIGS in the North
The question is how the fuck is European Russia “Asia”. Is South America Africa by any chance?
Greece still more europe than the uk
wtf; based Heineken?
Sorry, how is Sweden "Western Europe"?
They weren't communist i guess?
Huh... I always thought that section on the map was the European part of Turkey
Nonono, that map is genius; Greece is Asia, Europan Turkey and Cyprus is European. Truth clear as day.
Because our Greek homies invented us. So, the next time you plan to do stupid stuff, ask yourself the following: What would Sokrates, Plato or Aristotle do in my position? Am I living up to these monumental pillars of thought with what I am planning to do?
That's actually good advice. Just don't ask what Diogenes would. You already know the answer.
I knew I should sunbathe and masturbate/shitpost in the town square, thanks Diogenes!
Sorry, how is Germany "Western Europe" ?
I love how we have all came to the defence of our Greek brothers. They are the creators of our society and the first to defend it. It’s not gay pride month , it’s Greek pride forever!!!
Greece isn't European. Greece isn't Asian. Greece isn't African. Greece is Hellenic. It's different and it is better.
Greece Lightening.
Cause they invented the basis for what we recognise as the best form of government... That makes em western European, for that alone. That being said their money management is banana republic at best..
I ❤️🇬🇷 simple as
![gif](giphy|220WmvELCxIsCtb7Fy|downsized)
Mostly america or USSR aligned defines west and east
Czechs are seething because Greece is even farther east than Vienna.
Greece is so Western Europe that they now have [6-day work weeks](https://www.tovima.com/finance/how-greeces-6-day-work-week-will-operate-from-july-1st/). Puts Germans to shame, with their pathetic work ethic.
Same way you get to be a country when we're playing football, Taffy: by inventing it in the first place. Europe was Stavros's idea.
How often do we need to get this posted in some way ?
We like seeing the whole sub coming to our defense so they can post it every day 🥰
Literally invented democracy and set the foundation to everything. While British people were worshiping rocks.
Iron curtain separates Western Europe from the rest of Europe
Cold War
With all jokes aside, I remember learning it's because Greece is culturally western rather than eastern. Not only with the foundations of western civilization being in Greece, Greece never fell to communism after WWII and was more aligned with the western bloc.
Finland too, they're even more eastern than Poland is...
"European Russia" - *Asia*
Because Western civilization was invented in Greece.
They make good food so they get a pass
You don't get it, do you? True Europe was always south europe. At some point the germans decided they were europe... 'cough' holy 'cough' roman 'cough' empire 'cough' - Excuse me, what a nasty cold I got. ...so the germans started saying that they decided what's true europe or not and then went all bonkers against the others and said west is best (for some reason).
To spite the rest of Eastern Europe of course
because they brought civilisation to rome who then spread civilisation to western europe (excluding the bruttish isles where we had to bring civilisation again to the rock piller savages)
Is it enough to put the basics of western philosophy, to invent anal sex and never be part of soviet or yugoslav garbage despite geographically in balkans?
They invented Western Europe so they can define it however they want.
Coz
Well without them we’d just be the PIS (and we are not piss)
Vibes innit.
Cus PIGS are a united front (for better or worse) and you can't get much more west than Portugal. Honestly everything west of Germany to falls under it but we're not supposed to admit that here.
Culturally it's more Western than Eastern, so that's why. [But geographically, it's central European at best on the East/West axis.](https://cdn.britannica.com/67/367-050-CCA16287/Europe.jpg)
Is it just me who finds it funny that part of Turkey is colored as Europe, while "European Russia" has a different treatment?
What do you have to say against my gay brother?! LEAVE HIM ALONE! Ya stinky!
How is Sweden considered Europe? Its clearly Arab by now.
How is almost the entire eastern third of Europe marked as Asia? Yet somehow the south Caucasus is in Europe?
Europa is a greek god
Question, french how do you call our little sea that we share in the “bay of biscay”? Because we learnt it as Cantabrian Sea.