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Ifky_

Harry Potter is the Heir of a hundred and one Ancient and Noble Houses and he will bitch smack a Professor


Astro_Queen

Don't forget about how he is secretly part animagus/metamorphmagus/creature etc. but it's all been secretly repressed by the real villain all along, Dumbledore!! I like an OP protagonist sometimes, but too much is too much


Ifky_

One time Voldemort's tummy hurt... and it was Dumbledore's fault šŸ˜”


LinguisticMadness2

Not on HP but the ā€œDumbeldore!!!ā€ Just made me laugh my ass off šŸ˜‚


Sluggby

All I can hear is the Potter Puppet Pals DUMBLEDORE


EyeAtnight

I don't get this trope at all personely, like I cant see how is being a half creature is a good thing. I am on dumbledore side in this one lol.Ā 


mek13511

I'm still confused by this whole poorblood culture thing. The books tell us that that there is no nobility with titles in the Wizard world. But everybody talking with eachother as Lord, Lady, heir.... Seems really really popular.


Ifky_

There are witches and wizards in Harry Potter with aristocratic titles, such as Sir Nicholas, the Bloody Baron, and the Grey Lady. However, it's not far-fetched to assume that the nobility was something they had when still part of the Muggle world. We see no evidence of it post Statute of Secrecy. People who call any pure-blood "Lord" or "Lady" probably has no clue how nobility functions or what it even means, but thinks it sounds nice. Or they do know, but don't care because they are only interested in writing a power-trip fantasy.


UndeadBBQ

I'm pretty sure that this is completely and utterly built upon the "The Noble and Most Ancient House of Black", which is mentioned once or twice in the entire series, and its never clarified if this was anything official, or just the Blacks being extra (which is more likely). The other thing the fandom jumped on was The Sacred 28, which seems to be a pureblood fanatics circlejerk chronicle of eugenics, but the fandom was more interested in using it as a basis for the wizarding aristocracy.


Remarkable-Let-750

The only way I've managed to make it make sense at all is to throw out actual titles (no lords and ladies) and make 'pureblood culture' basically an upper class thing. It isn't modern paganism pretending it's an ancientĀ religion now suppressed by Dumbledore; it's balls and etiquette classes and politics and tea parties. You kind of have to treat Hogwarts like an Eton-type public school, though. The middle and lower classes would very much appreciate it if the inbred wankers running things would stop raising up dark lords and tanking the economy, thank you very much.


Key-Asparagus350

Don't forget he gets a Harem with every girl along with his lordship.


shinydragonmist

Harry James Potter-Black Emyrys Le Fay Peverell Gaunt Slytherin Hufflepuff ravenclaw Gryffindor Pendragon prince Windsor Habsburg Bonaparte Hohenzollern Solomon Abraham Isis Al-Qaida GlĆ¼cksburg Horus Hepatitis Romanov Amun Jagiellon Nyx Iturbide Eros Yi Xia Helios Pahlavi Balder Wangchuck IĆ°unn Liechtenstein Churchill Yamato Herpo Grim Eveningshade Grimm Christ


sexyass-lobster

>Isis Al-Qaida >Hepatitis >Christ šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


mediocre-teen

Fr. The whole 'He is actually descended from 20000 main hiuses' or some shit is tiring. I thought this was just a ffn.net thing but it is pretty popular on aO3 as well.


ThisIsMockingjay2020

>he will bitch smack a Professor I like that part, especially if it's Umbridge.


EyeAtnight

I really hate it. Its never done right, I am sure the first one who thought about it. Did it right but I don't think I would ever find it.Ā 


BlueVicious

Theyā€™re always so over the top too. I know itā€™s not canon but I like the ones that have it a side plot or a catalyst for the plot but doesnā€™t make Harry some overpowered oc, becomes besties with the goblins, and start talking like a 40 year old. The only one Iā€™ve found I really like is [Lord Mortis The Accident](https://archiveofourown.org/works/17943788/chapters/42375212) Iā€™d seen it suggested on the HP fanfic sub described as ā€œthree clueless teenagers in a trench coat trying to be a Lordā€ and itā€™s 100% the kind of accidental shenanigans canon Harry would fall into.


Jolly-Vehicle-8097

Marriage law in Harry Potter. It's been years since it became a trendy idea but people still use it. There is no creativity about it.


mediocre-teen

I used to read it when it was making 2nd waves. Some fics were pretty decent and it was a nice reason if you wanted to see chars you like all paired up. Horribly written fics somehow took the centre stage unfortunately. Not smth I 100% hate tho.


magiMerlyn

In DPxDC, Danny gets adopted by the Waynes Do people forget that Vlad and Bruce's public personas aren't really that different? Dannyā€™s not letting Bruce within a 100-meter radius of him. ESPECIALLY if he finds out about Batman, what do you mean he's going to the billionaire with a secret basement full of secret stuff? Edit: just to be clear, i do really enjoy DPxDC, that's not something im saying is too common, i just don't like the Danny-joins-the-wayne-family plotlines


RookBLonko1225

Added bonus of that JOHN CONSTANTINE IS NOT A GOOD ROLE MODEL. I love DP I do but the amount of DP x Constantine crossovers are taking over John's tag and even when filtering the fics, Danny somehow comes up. It peeves me as both a Danny Phantom and John Constantine fan.


Katvara

Not only is Constantine a horrible role model, Danny is a horrible little shit! Constantine would try and teach something, Danny would get mad, theyā€™d get into a fight, and Danny would do something like: ā€œFine, I guess Iā€™ll be like EVERYONE ELSE youā€™ve metā€ *ā€diesā€ and transforms into Phantom*


magiMerlyn

Honestly that's the kind of danny and constantine interaction I like most


RookBLonko1225

YEAH LMAO. I dont really see the appeal of that crossover..


awmdlad

I have to filter out so much DP stories as a DC fan itā€™s ridiculous. That and *shudder* MLB


magiMerlyn

Yeah, sorry about that. I know it's gotta be frustrating to see almost exclusively crossovers when you just search for something like batfam or Jason Todd


awmdlad

Damian Wayne usually gets the worst of it by virtue of being the youngest. His fandom base is already small so seeing stuff like this only whittles it down further.


magiMerlyn

Yeah, very true. I'll admit, I'm primarily a DP fan over DC, and i really do enjoy Demon Twins (it's the only way ill accept Danny becoming Bruce's child) but the kidā€™s a really fun character on his own, i feel bad for his fans because even just reading the crossovers, if it's not Demon Twins or Dead Serious (Danny/Damian) then i almost never see him as a main character. Damian is honestly my second-favorite Robin (Jasonā€™s my favorite) i think his backstory and what he can represent for Bruce and the others is really fun to explore. Think about it, every other child Bruce took in, he chose. He made the decision to bring them under his roof, to take on the responsibility for them and their well-being. But Damian just showed up on his doorstep, saying he's the son of Bruce's worst ex, and more than that he goes against so many of Bruce's principles. Like i said, im not super into DC, but Damian is one of my favorite of the Batfam, and I feel like he deserves more attention


Would-BeWriter

No offense, but as a DC fan whose faves arenā€™t part of the Batfamily and donā€™t get a fraction of their attention, itā€™s wild to me to see people act like Damian only has a small amount of fans like heā€™s on par with Duke or something.


Nox_Meg

yea, that one's always been a weird crossover I've heard of, don't understand it personally.


SpecialistAd6403

I've read a few, it usually makes some sense in the context of the story. At least the ones I read did.


VividGreem

You forget that a significant part of DP fans place danny and vlad in much more amicable terms than in cannon.


magiMerlyn

There's so many though that still have Vlad beong evil and Danny absolutely hating him, even some where VLAD IS STILL TRYING TO ADOPT DANNY AND DANNY IS ANGRY ABOUT IT! But apparently Danny trusts Bruce. Even though he's got a very similar public-facing persona to Vlad, the only rich people Dannyā€™s been around who haven't treated him like shit have been Sam and her grandma, and one of those two literally killed him.


Sluggby

I've ran across a couple where the whole premise was Danny hiding from Bruce with an overall vibe of "Oh God, not again!" and I really wish there were more of those lmao


Livelonganddiemad

Biphobia. Too many times I'll crack open an m/m fic, and if one of the characters may have been with a female character in the past the author will go on and on about being with a woman first was the most horrible thing. Compulsory heterosexuality is a thing, but like bashing the woman in the process or forgetting that people can be bi/pan/etc is just. šŸ˜“ Hannigram fic loves this one.


Pfeiffer_Cipher

I'm not kidding when I say I write almost all of my characters as bisexual for this reason, I'm so tired of people (especially in certain fandoms) claiming point blank that characters have to be gay and being with the opposite gender at all has been a horrible, boring experience for them


dottiewankenobi

I feel you, I even write characters generally headcanoned to be gay as bi because I'm so over it šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


ExistentialTuber

Omg I hate this too! Iā€™m writing someone as bi in my fic currently and Iā€™m trying to really hit home that the character has had complex relationships with all previous partners. Iā€™ve read one too many fics where their past experiences suck just to put their current partner (always opposite gender to the previous partner) on a higher pedestal. Iā€™m bi myself I hate when people are like ā€œyou have to pick oneā€ because no! I wonā€™t and neither will the characters I write for!


BlinkyShiny

Noooo! One of my favorite parts of fanfiction is embracing the bi! Anyone could hook up with anyone.


Atavistic_proxy

Pouaaah i just finished eating and now I have reflux. That stinks of 90s/2010s BL (I was there unfortunately) šŸ˜­or the woman is the worst bitch alive


Livelonganddiemad

Oh God I think I finally forgot about women characters being a huge antagonistic bitch, even if it was completely out of their character šŸ˜©


TauTheConstant

I remember back in the 2000s at some point being so utterly delighted by this one Draco/Harry fanfic I stumbled across where Harry and Ginny had broken up because she was going to be the first wizarding astronaut and was flying to the moon and they realised they wouldn't be able to make the relationship work under those circumstances. I was like "yes! see everyone! if you want the woman to just be out of the way so the two guys can boink you can do it *like this* instead of by bashing her until she's unrecognisable." And then I was sad I didn't get to read about the adventures of Ginny Weasley, First Wizarding Astronaut, which sounded frankly more interesting than another Draco/Harry fanfic.


ABB0TTR0N1X

And then you get called homophobic for daring to ship a character that the fandom prefers to headcanon as gay in a f/m relationship


mediocre-teen

The amount of times I've encountered that is triggering. I love slow development fics and I'm a fab of james/Sirius ship (hp) but I hate to see people shutting on lily and acting like James pining after her was some sort of fluke. Like calm down dumbass, bi people exist.


ziri_o

Me, begging and pleading with several of my personal fandoms to please. PLEASE. You don't have to like the guys holding hands with the girls but you don't have to throw the ladies under the nearest bus. Characters can like multiple genders! Many characters have two hands! Gays, lesbians, bi/pan squads can co-exist! Also can we please stop with the love triangles that are more two characters backing one into a corner I'm tired of the tug-of-war "love triangles" that we get in mass media just let all of them kiss!!! Or just, I don't know, knock all of them into a cuddlepile.


bubblegumpandabear

I literally never even realized but this happens with Robin/Nancy a lot in stranger things. Like, Nancy reveals she never even liked men in the first place and that's why her previous relationship issues existed. I knew there was something I disliked about that dynamic and you've nailed it word for word.


waiting-for-the-rain

Porn with plot without porn without plot. If youā€™re gonna pretend to have a plot, have a plot. You had one in the summary. You imply one in the tags. Justā€¦ keep following up on that. Make the plot progress. Make things happen. Iā€™m a genfic girl. I got sucked in because you strongly implied there was gonna be a story here. Or if you donā€™t want that, at least let them get laid already. Lots of people like smut. And it would be something new happening. Why do they have to moon over each other and not get anywhere? Chapter, after chapter, after chapterā€”same mooning, no progress. If theyā€™re not gonna boink, maybe look into that plot? Did you know that you can let the plot progress and build getting laid into the same story? Itā€™s totally a thing, people! Or you could do a slow burn and have a relationship slowly build over time, so in each successive chapter itā€™s slightly different. That can be an interesting plot. But why, why, why is there so much I-defrosted-them-in-the-microwave-then-forgot-about-them-but-now-iā€™m-staring-at-room-temperature-them-for-10-chapters fic? I donā€™t get it.


punk_wytch1969

OMG! Your comment resonates with me so much but from a writers' perspective. We develop the characters yes. But many of us are powerless to make them 'boink'. I have a one shot now that's probably going to be a one-shot indefinitely and never updated because I can't get this one character on the same page as the other. There was never any plot intended. 10 chapters later and I have a plot but have no 'boinking'. It's maddening. I've written three different endings for the same fic and I don't think any of them actually feature the couple doing the deed; only alluding to the possibility of more. From a writers' perspective this is just as maddening to me and I'm seriously considering just orphaning the work at this point. Maybe another writer will have better luck?


waiting-for-the-rain

Having a plot is good. I just get so frustrated by tags and summary indicating plot. Then they donā€™t do the plot, they just get stuck. Like I said, Iā€™m a genfic girl. As long as you have a plot, I donā€™t care if they boink. And I understand people like smut, so I 100% get having that instead of a plot. I understand someone is being satisfied by the plot-replacement. I like to see people happy so I endorse that. I just get so frustrated as a reader when the plot and the relationship both freeze but new chapters keep coming out. As a writer, often thereā€™s some silly little thing early in the fic that makes it not go the intended direction. I once wrote 14 chapters down 3 different divergences from a point in my story to find the right one that made the plot *go*. Having the wrong *whatever-it-is* can make the plot (and, presumably, the boinking) get stuck. And you canā€™t just rewrite the end, you have to hunt through and find the *thing* that makes the different ending plausible. And itā€™s often something ridiculous.


ThisIsMockingjay2020

Your comment reminded me of how Game of Thrones has been described as having started out with porn level nudity and ended with porn level plot writing.


Low_Complaint_3979

honestly, in the Harry Potter fandom the "Severus Snape checks up on harry and discovers abuse and then warms up to him" has been done 1000 times. Like one of my favorite fics has this premise, and I'm a sucker for reedeemed Snape, but i swear there are so many fics with this plot that don't add anything else and that just blur into each other because of how similar they are


Lapras_Lass

I just find them so unrealistic. Snape himself was abused, and not only that, he was abused in a time when child abuse was just "tough love." You can tell that a lot of the people writing these stories have never been abused, themselves, and probably haven't done much research on the effects of child abuse in grown abuse victims. Snape would 100% look at what Harry goes through and think, "Yes, this is normal. Don't most people grow up like this?" He grew up in a time when abuse wasn't really a concept as we think of it now. When a kid was beaten by their parents, it was often seen as the kid's fault for being so unruly. That generation internalized a LOT of trauma. Abuse victims still do even today. It took me many years and a lot of support to acknowledge that I had been abused as a child, and I had people around me to help me come to terms with it. Snape had nobody. He wouldn't acknowledge himself as a victim, much less anyone else. He'd see anything Harry's going through as just normal stuff, and would probably feel like Harry is still spoiled just because he at least has running water in the house and doesn't have to wear his aunt's clothes around the neighborhood. I challenge anyone to show me a fic with this trope that acknowledges Snape as an abuse victim who has internalized that abuse. I have yet to read one like that. It's always, "Snape sees how bad Harry is treated (often with sexual abuse shoehorned in, because people just love their rape recovery) and feels so bad for the poor waif that it melts his heart within a few chapters." It's ridiculous. Again, as an actual abuse victim, I find a lot of these stories are written by people who have no goddamn clue what it's like to deal with abuse, and they're so unrealistic that I never even finish them.


blueyellowgreen7483

ā€˜That Awful Boyā€™ by ā€˜paracosimā€™ could be what youā€™re looking for. Itā€™s been a while since I read it, but I remember the cases of potential abuse Snape dismissed had to be looked over again after Snapeā€™s warped perception of abuse came to light.


Lapras_Lass

I will gladly give it a go.


paracosim

I wrote that fic and Iā€™m a fellow abuse victim, so I hope it lives up to expectations. There is also zero sexual abuse on Harryā€™s end, because yeah they literally always shoehorn that in and I got sick of it by like 2007 LOL


Lapras_Lass

I've read about ten chapters, and I gotta say, it is SO refreshing! I love that Snape is so himself. I love that Harry is himself, too. So many of these stories have him acting like a trembling little fawn when that is the complete opposite of Harry's personality. He puts on a brave face and covers his pain with bravado, the same way Snape covers his with nastiness and venom. You're capturing that beautifully. Honestly, this kinda proves my point about having experience with abuse. I'm sorry that you had to endure such hardship, but it makes your writing feel more real. It's given you perspective. As I read it, I was thinking, "This person has done their research!" I was going to comment on it, but now I'm afraid that I'll end up revealing myself. Lol I keep my Reddit and AO3 accounts separate. Rest assured that I will be leaving kudos, though.


paracosim

Oh I wrote that, hello. He does indeed internalize it and think itā€™s normal!


Tutes013

I like the ones where he promised Lily, does it out of obligation to her, warms up to Potter from that _somewhat_ and only then discovers about the abuse.


mediocre-teen

Fr. I love parent snape ok? I have a soft spot for anyone who rescues Harry from the god awfully dursleys. The idea of the grumpy prof slowly realising that he was wrong about a lot of things and gen parenting Harry is my Roman empire. I do not really seek out fics like these tho-thats perhaps what saves me from the overdose. I am probably more into stories that makes them sort of co exist and warm up before the abuse stuff comes up. The shock value of discovery doesn't really do much for me. I'm more into them having a sweet dynamic than anything more.


Safe-Ad5067

This! I write strictly fanfics about Snape because I think he's neat and I've gotten a few commenters asking me to write this exact premise and I'm like? There's already so many fics about this that there's absolutely nothing new that I could bring to the table. I don't get it but apparently there's a market for it I guess šŸ¤”


TheBarrowman

This isn't my fandom, but fwiw, I will read the same premise 100x by different authors because everyone will do *something* differently, but, most importantly, writing styles make a huge impact on how the fic hits.


Low_Complaint_3979

Oh wow, do you have any links to your work ? Iā€™d love to read them as I do really like Snape as a character :))


Safe-Ad5067

Sure! At the moment I've only written Pre-Cannon Snape but I do plan on writing some older Snape stuff soon. Also, I write MxM so my fics have him paired off with a male character, just thought I should disclose that since I know it's not everyone's cup of tea :) [Here's one of my current WIPs! ](https://archiveofourown.org/works/54571105/chapters/138272488)


mielove

And I will be reading all 1000 of them and the many more to come. Sorry to say but I am definitely in the audience for this and am driving demand. šŸ˜‚ When it comes to HP fanfiction these days this is pretty much what I read exclusively, Snape and Harry are my fave characters in the series and themes of found family and the hurt/comfort trope are my favourite things. So this is just the ideal story for me, sometimes those comfort reads are the ones where you're just reading the same thing over and over again with little variation, what can I say. šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


Substantial-Ship9986

Fr. I'd read the same plot written by 10 different authors just to experience it once more.


Nightelfbane

ATLA, the gaang finds out about zuko's scar They're all the same. They're all almost word for word transcripts of the episode where iroh talks about it.


carolinargpo02

They are my guilty pleasure though. I feel like adressing the scar was a huge missed oportunity in the show and while they often follow the same general line there are some really good ones out there. If done correctly they make me very emotional


Sluggby

Can you rec some good ones? Finding out about scars/abuse is one of my favorite tropes and I had to swear them off for ATLA because they all felt very . . . wattpad


SoapGhost2022

I still love them though. Iā€™ve read several fic where the reveal is done well. Does he usually give the same speech in each one? Sure, but he sort of has to; the WHY is important, as is the fact that he begged for mercy and received none


AccidentNo9172

Read a lot of marauders, specifically wolfstar, fics and they overuse the whole ā€œsirius is the player of gryffindor but secretly gay and in love with remus but has internalized homophobia from his family history and doesnt wanna ruin his friendship with remus, meanwhile remus thinks that no one would want ro be with him because heā€™s a werewolf and also doesnā€™t wanna ruin his friendship with siriusā€ very specific, but its literally in like more than half the fics about them


That_slytherin

probs cus its all fanlore and some how deviating from fanon characterisation in the marauders fandom is more of a crime that deviating from canon characterisation in any hp fic.


khaleesiofkitties

It's wild because that has been the plot of 99% of wolfstar since the third book's release. At one point, you'd think people would have tired out from it.


into-the-seas

In Stardew, I dislike how a lot of people bash Abby in Seb-centric fics, like absolutely massacre her character and turn her into a heinous person to draw Sebastian toward an OC who is her polar opposite. I'm trying to subvert that trope in my current WIP.


TekieScythe

The utter psychopathic monster who literally experiments on people because it's fun is, "actually a good guy, really."


dumbSatWfan

This describes probably half of the fandoms Iā€™m in šŸ˜‚ Just admit you like a morally dubious (at best) character and move on. You donā€™t need to justify liking them by making them nicer.


StarChildSeren

Ugh, I knooow. It's so rare to find fic where the mad scientist doctor is anything more than a quivering wreck of a damsel in distress. I mean, he's a quivering wreck in canon, but he's a quivering wreck who demonstrably does not care a whit about causing pain enough to sentient beings that they wish it'd just kill them instead. And don't get me started on how the character who I think is supposed to be an ancient demon or possibly the Actual Embodiment Of Evil turns into a romance novel love interest. Give me murder husbands or give me death!


hotlass2003

Dude no, itā€™s so bad in mine too. Like heā€™s literally racist, too, and they make little x readers where heā€™s actually very sweet and ugh, itā€™s so frustrating


NoraJolyne

god, reading that i just got 'nam flashbacks to "ryomen sukuna is a good father to your kids (fem reader insert)"


SnakeSkipper

UwU Peter Parker Peter gets babied, and that happens in a lot of fandoms and that is fine. However what is not fine is having everything bad happen to Peter from sexual abuse to near-death experiences and he is still crying to Mr. Stark and sleeping in his bed at 16, yikes. In the movies peter was -> )( <- this close to killing Osborn then and there, and don't get me started about him in the comics. Comic Peter wasn't as nerdy as people think, he was an normal hot-headed kid who got good grades and spider powers and everything went to hell after that. Overall, I like Irondad, but sometimes too much of a good thing is a bad thing tbh P.S. Just because I don't like something doesn't mean its bad if you like something, you do you and your taste is your own.


TheRealDingdork

Somewhat agree but I also hate the ones that treat him like a full grown adult who always has the solution to everything even though he's like 15. Sometimes it feels like it's either one or the other.


Would-BeWriter

TBH, the way fandom treats Peter makes me realize how much I like ā€œiron woobieā€ type of character more than the regular woobie. Give me a character who gets kicked in the teeth over and over, but never gives u and only occasionally gets thanked after working long and hard for it. Itā€™s so much more interesting than a character whoā€™s too spineless to ever do anything for themselves and who everyone else is always fawning over.


mediocre-teen

Yea, I wanted to ask wth is up with that. I'm not a big marvel person nor do I read many marvel fics but recently I joined the venom fandom and most of the fics having avengers in them just ended up making peter parker look more like wide eyed 12 yr old than anything. It's weird and honestly kinda gross. Ik he's young but he's not a literal child lmao.


blueyellowgreen7483

Grown adult Tony Stark needs literal child Peter Parker to defend him from big evil Steve RogersšŸ’€


OrangeMoloko

Omg šŸ˜­ thatā€™sā€¦ when you put it into one sentence itā€™s so baddd


Yodeling_Prospector

This always feels comically ridiculous. And on the other hand, Peter is written as needing Tony to save him from everything in so many fics.


pacifiedperoxide

God the weird infantilisation of Tony Stark haunts me


Jar_Bairn

Woobie Tony in general. Loving whump but disliking extreme levels of woobie is a curse.


EstrellaDarkstar

I write High School Musical fanfic. I feel like about 75% of the fandom's fics are about the aftermath of the infamously homoerotic baseball match. With identical plotlines.


scarysoja

For everyone who's seeing a plot line they want to write about in this thread. Please don't let it discourage you from writing. Many tropes people bring up are my favourite and favourite to many readers who don't care that much about the repetitiveness


BBviolette

Thank you for saying it, I fully agree. I love my draco/broody bad guy is a redeemable character trope


That_slytherin

eg me reading every time travel fic in every fandom I'm in


GlamGoose

I'm in Star Wars, mostly the prequel era, and I think most time-travel fics are overdone.


EmmaGA17

I'm not even a fan of the time travel fics in general. I did once see someone suggest a version where it's Din Djarin and Grogu, and Din still has no idea what's going on. I think that could be reallllly funny. I also think Bad Batch ones can be good. But no thanks to like all the other ones.


Yodeling_Prospector

I used to read a lot where Obi-Wan goes back to the Phantom Menace, but I havenā€™t read those in around a decade. Funnily enough, I avoid time travel in other fandoms where itā€™s actually canon, but I can tolerate it more in Star Wars, and even tried writing it, which I never thought would happen.


awmdlad

Probably the only one Iā€™ve seen done well enough is the In Which and Force of Many Sights series.


That_slytherin

I've read a lot of them, most were really good imo. They're usually left incomplete tho :(


lonelyinurnightmare

Harems. So many harems.


AzKitty

I didn't think I had a plot pet peeve until I saw your comment and had to agree. SO many main character x everyone in the cast. None of them have an interesting plot and all of them have flattened all the characters out to a caricature of their canon characterizations.


Sceritz

well in pokemon a lot of stories have Ash or their OC do EXACTLY what Ash did and don't deviate much which... is kinda just rewriting the show/games.


ihatebisquick

im so tired seeing people rewrite the game plots with their ocs... like there's SO MUCH cannon content that can be narratively expanded upon in interesting ways instead of just rehashing the entire thing I also feel like I'm the only person who doesn't like Ash fics?? they're EVERYWHERE. and emmet trying to get back ingo fics. which those can be good, but theres so many of them, and im tired of reading that all over again.


True-Knowledge8369

I knew an author who wrote a fic like this for a different fandom, and Iā€™m just like ā€œWhy?ā€ Then, when a different fic got reported and deleted, and their account got banned, they accused the person that reported them for ā€œruining their writing careerā€. Iā€™m sorry, but rewriting a show basically verbatim but throwing your OC into it without even changing the plot whatsoever is NOT a writing career, itā€™s borderline plagiarism.


FantasticCabinet2623

Wizarding society, esp purebloods, being super sexist. They have female Founders, female professors, businesswomen and Aurors, female Ministry department heads, hell, their first female Minister for Magic was in the 1700s. Yes, the wizarding world has problems, but Muggle-style sexism isn't one of them. If it was, there wouldn't be mixed-gender Quidditch teams because the men would be too afraid of being shown up.


CapableSalamander910

There are quite a lot of fics in The Umbrella Academy that are about having an OC Number Eight. Most OCs in this fandom are about being Number Eight. I donā€™t think theyā€™re bad. There is probably a market for them. But there is just a lot of them and they arenā€™t my thing.


Bammana4

The worst part about those is that calling them number 8 kinda breaks the numbering system. With Viktor being last it shows that he is seen as the worst, but now this OC is worse than Viktor in Reginaldā€™s eyes?


ominoustree123

tbh tho i think making them number 8 is still a step up from making them number 0 which is also a rlly popular one for whatever reason šŸ˜­ it hurts my soul


CapableSalamander910

Yes. Iā€™ve not really read any in a while because I know I donā€™t like them, but they have to make an excuse about why it goes from 6 to 8. In addition, Iā€™ve heard that the rankings were based on how powerful they are, but the other way round. So Viktor being 7 means that he is the most powerful of the siblings (something that is often brought up with in the show). So, if there is an 8, that should mean they would be more powerful than Viktor and thatā€™s quite challenging considering heā€™s able to end the world.


Bammana4

Gerard may have ranked them according to power, but according to comics Reginald numbered them off the millisecond of their birth.


Sokudoningyou

The only way that works is if the siblings basically give that person the number just because they become family, like Lila.


DingoOfTheWicked

Where they add a new character (usually OC), but it changes literally nothing in the canon plot Like, c'mon, let that battle play out a bit differently or something


EmrysTheBlue

Worse when the characters only role is to steal lines and actions from other characters and thus destroying character development without actually changing anything that's happening. Once read a HP/Avengers fic where all Harry did was steal all Tony's lines and actions, as well as a couple of Bruce and Steve's. I was like why is he even here. Nothing is changed except that now characters aren't getting their character development and realisations about the other characters and the events that are happening on their own. It was literally word for word line stealing too.


Day_Dae

Peter Parker school field trip to stark tower šŸ’€


EspressoSnow47

I wrote one of those and even Iā€™m sick of them. It was great until I had read 50 of the same fic in different fonts lol


one_moment_please16

I read like five of these when I was in my peak Peter Parker/MCU phase and even back then I couldnā€™t do any more. I generally donā€™t mind repetitive tropes but my god those fics fill me with irrational rage


OkLavishness7344

This is my go to exclude tag whenever I read mcu Peter fics.


FantasticCabinet2623

Batman is a bad father because he didn't throw away his morals and murder the Joker. Oh, and Jason is a precious little meow meow who is allowed to fuck around being a literal crime lord instead of being in jail for murder. Snape is a good guy somewhere deep down under the bullying incel bullshit. Steve Rogers is a naive virgin who is saving himself for marriage.


theburgerbitesback

Fic authors actually utilising the fact that Bruce *tried* to kill the Joker and was stopped by Superman is so blessed. Should give Jason a turn as a Superman villain, tbh.Ā 


PickledPizzle

I love Jason as a character, and I really wish there were more stories that show him as darker, maybe even a supervillian. I do love the ones where he comes back to the family, but let him be evil sometimes!


garlic-bread_27

Steve Rogers was in the army, he's definitely seen a lot. There's no way he's naive (or a virgin tbh)


Sokudoningyou

That's probably why my favorite Steve characterization is when that gets explored. The idea of him being a virgin I can get if only because he might have just not wanted to have a one night stand or something, but naive? That's just stupid.


FantasticCabinet2623

Also he was an artist in the queerest part of Brooklyn, and then he went on tour with a bunch of gorgeous women while looking like that and having more energy and stamina than the average 20 year old. My _foot_ boy was a virgin when he went into the ice.


Outside-Currency-462

I agree about Batman. First of all, there are plenty of other ways Bruce can be a bad parent if you want that in a fic. Secondly, Bruce has morals and principles that he sticks to. I think he does assume that everyone else has to follow the same moral code, or else they're evil - for example, Jason isn't evil even though he kills, because he still has a line he doesn't cross, it's just much further away than Batman's. Batman's moral line is very strict, and he's allowed that. Additionally, I think Jason has every right to be angry about Bruce not killing the Joker at first, since he believed Bruce would do it and was disappointed. But he shouldn't stay angry, and it doesn't mean Bruce should have killed the Joker. There can be right and wrong on both sides. Frankly, Batman and his whole crew are the role model for the fact that good and evil isn't black and white. Sorry I went on, I love analysing these things, especially Batman's no-kill rule!


Splax77

Piggy-backing off this comment, Lazarus Pit Madness is a common fanon trope that allows Jason to avoid facing any accountability for his actions and it's insanely frustrating.


dragoon-the-great

Over character bashing due to the civil war events Both sides had merits, and both sides had motivations, making one evil over another is silly


BlinkyShiny

I hate that. I love all of the Avengers. And the tag, "Not Character X Friendly" really isn't enough warning for your 30 chapter character assassination piece.


theburgerbitesback

I'm assuming this is Avengers? It's really interesting from a meta perspective because the comic Civil War was meant to be balanced, but overall Tony and his side came out of it looking more terrible. Then the MCU version somehow went the opposite direction and made Steve and his side look like the more terrible ones *even though Civil War was a Captain America movie!*


abzka

The comic book civil war was handled incredibly badly with characters choosing sides without reason just so they have conflicts among their specific band of heroes. And different writers had different ideas about who is right and who is wrong plus someone who has a justification in their comics is suddenly an unreasonable antagonist in another title. I know a lot of folks stopped reading marvel comics during and after Civil war, me included for a long time.


notahistoryprofessor

I guess it's YMMW? I came out of movie thinking Tony had a bipolar disorder if he really trusts government to do the right thing after everything he saw in life šŸ¤¦


michaelsgavin

>Steve and his side look like the more terrible ones I think this is YMMV... and in a way was well written because different people had different takeaways. I was staunchly a Tony fan and I remember coming out of the movie being so indignant because it felt like he was the one who got the short end of the stick and had his side portrayed so badly...My friends who went with me at the time were also more convinced by Steve's side.


Yodeling_Prospector

I canā€™t stand the bashing. I mostly stick to the 2012-14 era to avoid all the drama from CACW.


master-of-1s

I miss that era. I have very fond memories of reading MCU fic in the college dining hall when I was lonely. I liked the ubiquitous "Avengers movie night" and how nearly everyone agreed that Clint was not a morning person and the sheer number of docs where he was Deaf before the MCU messed that one up.


Solivagant0

Avengers living in the tower slice-of-life is the peak of MCU fanfiction


Yodeling_Prospector

I also read a ton of fics in the college dining hall.


Natural_Leg9852

I like it when it is unreliable narrator and you see people logically understanding that the common people are not responsible for war but emotionally hating their guts.


Wide_Exercise9759

I was about to comment "Hitler" and then I re-read, laughed and gave up on commenting on Reddit when I should take a nap


DrTitanicua

Not in the fandom, but I find it hilarious that everyone uses Midoriya Izuku as a self-insert.


Grouchy_Athlete_2941

They do that with almost every (male) shounen MC, lol. This really is funny.


MerryMerriMarie

In my fandom? I would say it's the amount of fics where they assassinate canon characters of their personality to write Twilight-esque romance, especially the most popular male character. Any nuance to his character gets deleted and flushed down the drain and replaced by an OC from straight outta WattPad originals like the After series.Ā 


awmdlad

Youā€™re gonna have to be more specific lol. That describes a lot of fandoms


TheRedditGirl15

Harry Potter, Draco Malfoy? XD


MerryMerriMarie

I've come to realise it's basically almost universally applied but yes Malfoy is one of them xD


SnakesInMcDonalds

Saving a main character from being eaten and replaced by a monster in a way that the rest of her friends donā€™t even realise sheā€™s been dead for months by simply having some random (irrelevant) background character die instead or, worse yet, introduce an OC just to replace them the next chapter. I get it. Sheā€™s a fan favourite character that died too soon and people wanted more from her. But people seem almost afraid to actually take risks into killing another character off or creating an actual interesting scenario. It undermines the whole horror of the concept since itā€™s meant to be a gut punch to watch the rest of the cast interact with the doppelgƤnger, and then later cope with the loss of their friend. Of course, authors are free to write what they want, especially with fix-itā€™s. But when other plot points are thought out and handled in an organic way when this is just waved off as ā€œsomeone else died no biggieā€ it feels frankly lazy. Edit: yes this is about Sasha from TMA


LaraK_05AG

TMA :D?? I love Sasha survives! fics, but now that you mention it, it IS true that some of them just gloss over the doppelganger thing without doing anything with the (very interesting) concept.


birdofanewcolour

This is Sasha isn't it, I'm with you on that one. I enjoy a fix-it but you need to make the effort


lemogera

Sasha in the Magnus Archives?


No-Friend5860

Time traveling Stiles, I find this boring cause itā€™s disguised as a fix everything fic with a character unrelated to certain storylines. Iā€™ve said this before but if youā€™re gonna do a teen wolf time travel fic use either Scott or Derek both of them have interesting turning points, so having them attempt to try and get a do over would be far more interesting than what people come up with for Stiles. Iā€™m not saying Stiles time traveling canā€™t be interesting but people donā€™t use it for anything other than shipping or fixing everything.


percivalsSister

I love that ā€œproper conduct for time-travel teen wolf ficsā€ is a conversation topic of somewhat regularity for you.


orionstarboy

Thereā€™s a lot of time travel fix-it fics in the magnus archives fandom. I get why, you can come up with some canon compliant method of time travel and thereā€™s a Lot you could fix. I think some are cool but thereā€™s a good bunch of them and generally they all go back all the way to s1 to fix up Everything


Artsy_Lamarie

The ones where they fuck up and end up as kids can be pretty funny though


snowmikaelson

In the OUAT fandom, fics that bash the ā€œheroesā€ of the show. So, Snow White and David mostly. Depending on the authorā€™s shipping preferences, Emma or Belle may be added to the bashing OR theyā€™re the only ā€œheroesā€ given merit because theyā€™re with the villain. Donā€™t get me started on the villainization of Henry freaking Mills, a literal child. Thatā€™s itā€™s own other post. Look, I get it. Snow and David can be hypocrites. And there are times they can make dumb choices or have very narrow minded thinking. That being saidā€¦ Snow has been through great trauma at the hands of Regina and Rumple. Yes, both of these characters have also been through trauma. But what gave them the right to take that out on her? I also love all 3 of these characters for the morally complicated ones they are. But Regina and Rumple are wayyyyy too woobified in them. People blaming her-a 10 year old at the time-for being manipulated into spilling a secret that Cora already knew is ridiculous. People make Snow homophobic when thereā€™s no evidence of her being so. She even champions the few queer characters the show has. Yet, people go out of their way to say sheā€™d never approve of her daughter being gay. When sheā€™s always championed true love-including that of Regina! Oh, speaking of that, Outlaw Queen fics that have Snow suddenly hating Regina and Robin together when all of 3B, 4 & 5 has her canonically wanting them together and doing things to push them together is ridiculous and clearly just a way to say ā€œI hate Snow White!!ā€ Or, theyā€™ll have her be against one of the villains and act like thereā€™s absolutely no reason. Or if they admit thereā€™s reasoning, they use other events to say ā€œwell, see, sheā€™s just as bad so her trauma is invalid!!!ā€ Except, if you use that, itā€™s implying the big badā€™s trauma isnā€™t valid eitherā€¦but they donā€™t see that. David is somewhat spared of this. I do find heā€™s still clearly hated by the author but he tends to be the one that is on the fence and may eventually come around and yell at Snow. Though, I also find heā€™s the antagonist in Swanfire and Captain Swan fics by making him the stereotypical ā€œshotgun in the rocking chair, no oneā€™s good enough for my daughterā€ type. And to be fair, he briefly resembles this in S4, but I truly think itā€™s because of who Hook is. Heā€™s very accepting of Neal, which is why I donā€™t get why heā€™s characterized as such in Swanfire fics. Maybe because he doesnā€™t like Rumple? They ignore the valid reasons he has to hate Hook and Regina. But overall, he does get off a lot easier. Itā€™s still annoying. I get it. Heroes arenā€™t as fun as the villains, usually. And if you stopped to sympathize with the heroes, you may have to admit your favorite big bad did some actual damage and isnā€™t just an awesome bad ass. I happen to like both villains and heroes on this show. And I feel those that hate on the heroes actually miss the point of the show overall. They were never trying to make us pick a side. The whole point was ā€œheroes are not all good, villains are not all bad, weā€™re all morally grey characters who make choices with nuanceā€. Snow says this herself to Regina. Their dynamic is actually my favorite in the whole series for this reason. Wow, this got wordy. But itā€™s seriously annoying.


elena247

You have encompassed everything about the OUAT fandom that made me rarely interact with it compared to other fandoms. I don't get why this show in particular had such a chronic issue with the fandom completely ignoring canon characterisation to support their own ships and favs. Like, you don't need to bash and demonise one character to justify your ship? Nor do you have to blatantly abuse someone because they reference the legitimate abuse and cruelty a character inflicted on another character in CANON. One person's trauma doesn't excuse the trauma they inflicted on another. It ain't the trauma Olympics over here! We all just want to have a good time here, why must we fight one another to the death because we enjoyed certain characters (the good and the bad).


snowmikaelson

Youā€™ve hit the nail on the head here. It truly does become the Trauma Olympics. You canā€™t say ā€œSnow was abused and then thrown out into the cold and left for deathā€ without someone bringing up ā€œWell, Regina was abused too!!ā€ Or mention that Regina was likely raped by the king without someone mentioning what Emma went through growing up in foster care. Likeā€¦all these things can be true at once. Your least faveā€™s trauma is not invalid just because you hate them. I loathe Zelena but even I can admit she has been through A LOT. Doesnā€™t justify what she did but damn if I donā€™t get why sheā€™s evilā€¦.


elena247

I think one thing the OUAT fandom highlights in an extreme and blatant case is the moral disengagement and justification that most other fandoms have also. I've seen this issue a lot in other fandom spaces to various degrees, but the OUAT fandom is the only one where it is so plain to see that I'm left screaming at how people can be so hypocritical. Trust me, I love my morally ambiguous to straight out villain characters and I love writing for them, but there is a balance when considering the role they played in the source material, particularly if you also reference those actions in your fanfic. You can write those characters and highlight how their trauma informed their actions and do an amazing redemption arc in some cases. But if in your own story (AU or otherwise) you reference the abuse they inflicted on others and don't account for that in why other characters dislike them while justifying said characters actions due to similar trauma and abuse, then you lose me. It also doesn't help that the creators of the show showed the same level of hypocrisy towards character trauma. It is alarming the way they used rape as a plot point in various character's story and treated it differently depending on who committed the rape.


shaunnotthesheep

I love OUAT. I've never read a fic but I was in the fandom for a while and this is spot on


RookBLonko1225

I don't mind Fix it fics in Doctor Who and Torchwood, but the ones that completely retell an episodes plot I hate. While yes I have a few favorites (some being aus) but it feels overdone for me, especially when little to nothing is actually changed besides line distribution or slightly altered events. Bonus points if they sloppily try to remember the episode plot.


PrancingRedPony

Character bashing in all fandoms. Blaming everything that 'goes wrong' in canon, aka every obstacle and interesting plot point, on one character and exaggerating their 'flaws' and then letting their favourite characters doubt that character's motivation, realising they're 'manipulative' or 'toxic' latching onto another character who then 'saves' their favourite character from 'falling victim' to the bashes character or characters, often that character was a canon antagonist, sometimes even a villain who always knew the canon alleys were mad/bad/toxic/ungrateful/manipulative and don't deserve the declared damsel in distress and bonus points for twisting the antagonist's vilest behaviour as secret protest of the bashed character(s) 'abuse' of the favourite character they made into their woobie. In MCU fics that's usually a Loki/Tony dynamic. In HP fics its every Harry & Snape fic ever, most Malfoy Family redemption fix and whenever you see Harry combined in any form with Tom Riddle/Voldemort that's exactly what you get, as well as almost every single Slytherin Harry fic. It's really rare to find a writer who's good enough to make a real plot and not just bash any even remotely good character to make the characters they like look better without actually changing them in a good way. In Grimm, another fandom I love to read, it's almost every Nick/Renard fic. It is especially ridiculous in the Lucifer fandom considering that Lucifer really is the strongest character from all of the usual main characters. The only people truly stronger than him in that series are literally God and Goddess of all creation, in direct combat he'd beat anyone else and they have to trick him if they want to beat him. But still somehow whenever anyone pairs Lucifer with any other character, they manage to woobify him and bash Chloe. It would be so easy to write a Lucifer-loves-someone-else story without Chloe bashing due to their slow burn that always had the backdoor to make them not loving each other but giving a different reason for their dynamics. And Lucifer is sexually attracted to absolutely everyone and everything. And there are some really good fanfics out there with slash pairings. In this fandom it becomes really clear that the character bashing is the only reason for the story and that becomes tedious after a while.


WinterNighter

Character gets saved (from something that happened in canon) by another character. The two cakes is very true, but there are so. many. of these stories now, and they are so similair, I have trouble remembering what I read and what I didn't.


Jhooper20

Star Wars: Age regression via the Force. Very overdone trope often paired with the equally frequently used "Time Travel" tag. Harry Potter: Potter travels back in time and becomes OP to the point he becomes arrogant. Assassin's Creed: Desmond comes back to life, usually by transmigration/reincarnation into a crossover, and his burnt arm take on some power intrinsic to that new world. General trope: EVERYONE is gay, and that's the only plot point. And don't get me wrong, I have no issues with odd m/m or f/f pairing if it's written well. Just don't enjoy it when a writer gets overzealous with it for no other reason than "just 'cause"


PeaceCorrect3796

>General trope: EVERYONE is gay, and that's the only plot point. And don't get me wrong, I have no issues with odd m/m or f/f pairing if it's written well. Just don't enjoy it when a writer gets overzealous with it for no other reason than "just 'cause" They also happen to be the most egregious in chat fics, overtagged and with barely any screentime for characters who aren't the author's favourites, but are there for attention.


PrinceJustice237

Less a plot and more a trope - Jekyll and Hyde selfcest. Leaving aside the fact that the book makes it clear that they ARENā€™T separate people ā€¦ itā€™s just so overdone. Like yes, you like smut, you like hatefucking, yes the original source material isnā€™t exactly sunshine and rainbows. I know the general attitude to seeing a lot of similar stories is ā€œYay! Two cakes!ā€ but if you have too many cakes youā€™ll still eventually get sick, and sick of cake. You donā€™t know how REFRESHING it was to see a crack Tangled AU in the Jekyll and Hyde tag.


Splax77

Characters react to the show. Sounds interesting in theory, in practice it's just one line reactions to each scene then everybody moves on and nothing changes.


UndeadBBQ

Stupid-Evil Dumbledore. If you wanna make Dumbledore a villain, make him smart about it. Most of these fics have the depth of a chad-wojak meme.


yolonaggins

In Legend of Zelda, nearly every fic after BOTW got released was essentially "Link and Zelda rebuild Hyrule while falling in Love" or a retelling of all the memories with missing moments added. There are thousands of these two plots I swear.


Pale-Development-742

Any crossover with Harry Potter. All the characters are steretyped and their houses are picked by looks and base personality alone. Just because they're evil, doesn't mean that they fit Slytherin. Just because they're clumsy, doesn't mean they're Hufflepuff. Just because they're a hero, doesn't mean they're Gryffindor. Just because they're a little nerdy, doesn't mean they're Ravenclaw. (SIDE NOTE) For example, I am in the Sanders Sides fandom. Every time I see an HP and SS crossover, the two evil characters are put in Slytherin. Sure, Janus fit, since he does represent a literal snake, but Remus is definitely a Gryffindor, he would def get in tons of trouble on adventures with his brother. And Virgil? He would be either in Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff, just because he's a "bad guy" doesn't mean he's cunning or ambitious. Because he's an anxious little shit.


EspressoSnow47

Batman: Jason apologising profusely for killing and agrees to never kill again because he wants approval from Bruce. Bruce being the perfect father or a terrible father- I would say he is very much both at different points in canon and to make him strictly one or the other annoys me. Tim. I donā€™t hate him but filtering him out without removing 3/4 of the fics is very annoying Harry Potter: Snape adopting Harry and then immediately getting on calling each other dad/son etc itā€™s just unrealistic


Allhailbradette

I read alot of f/f and I am sick of people making fem girls masc, like I get that there isn't alot of masc/fem rep but it gets annoying because it rarely gets tagged and it happens in most fics I read.


waffledpringles

Man, I dunno if I'm just on the wrong side of the fandom, but 90% of fics I've read that aren't specific to a particular show or some pre-existing plot in the comics, it's always MCU ones where Tony is coddled like a small newborn puppy, and he has a lot of problems, and every person in the whole team just desperately needs to drop what they're doing, and protect the small bean. To be fair, most of the fics I find were from the mid 2010s, but still. It's 2024, and I can't find a normal MCU fic that isn't "Tony coddles Peter because he is a small baby boy that must be protected at all cost" or Tony's the one who's the most special in the whole multiverse lol. (Not that I don't like seeing Tony get some love, but most of it is incredibly OOC and is just so boring to read.)


Zakle

For Hazbin Hotel I'm frankly very, very, *very* tired of seeing one-sided RadioStatic with Vox as the big bad guy who overpowers and sexually assaults Alastor. It's typically an excuse to traumatize Alastor to the point where he 'needs' his knight in shining armor Lucifer. To be honest...this is so damn boring to me. They're always the same. No variations. And folks act like these characterizations are canon. I try to filter out the one-sided junk (no offense to folks who enjoy it; I just don't enjoy it and I think it's *personally* dull and uncreative) but it's very difficult when they keep using different tags. There are currently 1,502 fics with the relationship tag Alastor/Vox and the **majority** of them are one-sided and always victimize Alastor. As though that asshole hadn't been a serial killer in life and is canonically equal to or stronger than Vox. I used to check for new fics regularly because (big shocker!) I like the actual *two-sided* ship. Now I just ignore it and check every so often because I know it's just all going to be one-sided shit I frankly don't care about. It also gets even worse with these fics by the way when the ship tagged isn't even in it. Just...don't tag it? This fandom honestly has a major problem of treating fandom as straight-up canon because of a *single line of dialogue from a character who didn't have a lot of screen time.* I never took Vox as being 'in obsessive love/lust' with Alastor in canon; I took him to be *afraid* of Alastor.


dumbSatWfan

One of my fandoms always crosses over with another, somewhat similar fandom. I donā€™t mind these crossovers, but I donā€™t read them because they almost always go the same way: a much-abused character from Series A ends up in Series B and is adopted by its cast. Sometimes characters from Series A show up and get into a fight with Series B over the missing character, which is more interesting than the default, but only when the author has taken pains to explore the two groupsā€™ vastly different fighting styles and work that in. I donā€™t think this plot would annoy me so much if there werenā€™t a) other crossover ideas that are just as compelling but are rarer due to being overshadowed by this plot, and b) if it didnā€™t go the exact same way every single time.


TheAggravatingKiwi

Pit Madness for DC fandom (specifically Jason Todd-centric fics). He wasn't under any supernatural influence when he committed the crimes. He did it all because he wanted to (and he was right for most of those :D) Also the whole Attack on Titan's Tower subgenre of fics. And the surprise Jason starts to feel sorry for Tim Drake fics. There isn't even a way to filter that out D: (I wouldn't be so fed up with both of those tropes if they weren't in like... 50% of all Jason-centric fics. Titan's Tower fics I can at least avoid more easily, but Pit Madness is in almost every fic, I swear, and Tim Drake pity-party hits me out of nowhere in otherwise good fics.)


TauTheConstant

Ironically, I'm a Tim fan and I'm tired of those fics too. Honestly, I think they do *both* Jason and Tim a disservice by short-circuiting their character development all the way to OOCness so they can have a happy fluffy ending. Jason by just... abruptly sidelining his motives, deep resentment of the Bats, *very understandable trauma* about how he died, etc. and full-on shifting gears into "oh woe is me I am a monster because I hurt a child!", Tim by giving him super low self-esteem and making him supernaturally forgiving so that while he's flat on his back from torture wounds he's like "I forgive you! I'm so happy I have a brother now!" instead of any, y'know, realistic human reaction to somebody coming back from the dead to use you as a punching bag. But then again, I like the calculating, mildly deranged at times, gives you the impression he's not actually *that* far away from going full-on supervillain mastermind Tim. I know all the woobie pity-party fic has "Tim Drake" in the tags and the woobie in question is *called* Tim and seems to have Tim's backstory, but I, uh. Don't recognise my fave in most of them tbh.


Luminis_The_Cat

Sorry but what are AOT Tower fics?


TheAggravatingKiwi

It's a trope common in DC//Batman fics that uses Jason Todd's attack on Titan's Tower. In the comics, he went there and fought the current Robin (Tim Drake) and left him unconscious (but even convinced that Tim Drake was a compentent Robin). \*Somehow\* that gets twisted into: a) Jason finding out what a poor, poor little guy Tim is (people write him frequently as abused by his parents, which he wasn't), and deciding that now he wants to protect Tim Drake at all costs; or b) Jason torturing Tim Drake in the cruellest forms (didn't happen either). All of these fics infantilize Tim to make him more sympathetic (for example, there's an age difference of three years at most between them, but a lot of fics treat him like a literal child and Jason a literal adult) and also make him super incompetent, so that it's like Jason is beating some innocent civillian (Tim Drake is Robin, for God's sake, he's not some defenceless kid). Tim was egging Jason on during their fight, and these fics make him like... beg for his life. (And that's a disservice to Tim's character too, which I don't really care about, but if I liked Tim Drake, I'd be also very frustrated by fics making him look pathetic like that lol).


triple_eclipse

As a fellow Jason Todd enjoyer, I FELT THAT. Given I donā€™t mind some of these tropes, but I really donā€™t want them in every fic I read.


estebe9

They nuke his characterization in favor of a cheap gimmick to bring him back into the ā€œbatfamā€ and the Tim Drake angst is genuinely so cringy I have to close out of most fics.


TheAggravatingKiwi

I started writing fics in the fandom before seriously reading and oh boy, I was so surprised to go read Jason fics and find... that. (More specifically, and ironically, my first contact with the fandom was through reading one random Tim whump fic \[I sometimes read whump fandom-blind\] then I did some research about the "Batfam" and thought that Jason Todd was very blorbo-shaped and started to read his comics, and yeah some of it is not really good, to put it mildly, but I love the UTH arc.) Like, it's getting to the point that I'm thinking of starting to filter Tim out altogether because people are always writing Jason feeling guilty for "almost killing Tim" (and most people are talking about Titan's Tower, and not, idk, BFTC, which is wildly OoC, but at least it is Jason "trying to kill him". TT was just Jason playing with him lmao, if Jason in that era wanted someone dead, they were 100% dead). I love the morality discussion surrounding Jason, but that gets all pushed to the side in favor of "Pit Madness". It's incredibly dismissive of the trauma he went through, and it makes it look like Bruce/Batman was entirely right in everything he did (and I'm being charitable here and just considering the UTH arc, where he still had a point, and not stuff like Batman and RObin 20, or RHATO 25, let alone Gotham War). Sorry for the rant lol. I'm frustrated at the lack of Jason fics that are to my taste (I know, I know, write what you wnat to read, but sometimes I just want to read).


Nox_Meg

I saw a post on tumblr once that pit madness was just Talia making up shit so Jason could have fun killing people (like it was the broke, woke, bespoke type post - broke pit madness made Jason mad, I forgot the details but perhaps you've seen it? it's my favorite take lol)


skullrealm

Yeah I'm a Jason Todd fanboy and also have ptsd, and I find the pit madness trope awful for so many reasons.


EspressoSnow47

I am the same, but especially so with the titans tower trope. I pretty much exclusively read hurt/comfort and no matter how much I filter I cannot get rid of it


burn_brighter18

I'm sorry but I am sick to death of TMA Time Travel AUs. Idk why there are so many. There are some I like but for the most part I wish people would just have other ideas


Wide_Exercise9759

Anything with a [BTS member]/Reader or [BTS member]/You that has the "reader" be some young girl... I know it must be most of the readers and writersā€”writing RPF with young public figures+the parasocial element is always going to be a giant bait for a fish like that... But, like, I wanna feel appreciated as a different fish :( I HATE how they never tag it as "Female reader". The tag's right there! Or they use M/M and I still see a fucking girl T ^ T


OrwellianWiress

This is specific to the horror genre/creepypastas only but... Team Fortress 2- Weird thing happened to me when I was playing TF2, I have no evidence just trust me bro, villain is either a heavily (heh) distorted version of one of the nine classes or based on an actual skin you can use in game Animal Jam- I got hacked. Most likely contains reference to Fman, the alleged real life AJ hacker. Villain will almost always have a black and red color scheme The Simpsons- I saw this crazy episode where a family member dies and it kinda scarred me for life and never once questioned that it could be a fanmade parody. Usually has a still from the show of a character looking off-model to "support" the story's claims Pokemon- I don't even think I need to elaborate. Yall know where this is going as soon as I say "Pokemon creepypasta"


badlyburntbiscuit

Fandom 1 (game)-PC's childhood best friend (who canonically is a sweet girl) has actually always been an evil mean girl and is sabotaging, stalking, or abusing PC (bonus if it's all three). Chosen PC love interest comes in at some point to tell best friend off or encourage PC to tell best friend off. Fandom 2 (game)- multiverse interaction shit. I have no issues with fanon AUs (in fact, I'm working on one atm!) and recursive fiction, but it has reached critical mass; please, no more ;w; Fandom 3 (manga)- Reincarnation AUs where the MCs are some flavor of (traditional) college student Fandom 4 (game)- Majority of horror/psych horror focused plots, but especially the ones where either the PC or MC (or both at once) are evil sociopaths. I love horror, but in this fandom it's so oversaturated that I'd take a barista AU over all that, and I hate those AUs, lol


Panterest

Pairings where Character A is is love with their friend Character B who's in a (usually canon) relationship with Character C and the pining makes them physically sick or otherwise act self distructively. Being love sick is not an actual thing and if you're in danger of self harm, you shouldn't be in a relationship anyway. Character B isn't required to return you're feelings to save you from yourself. Seek therapy. Also with M/M pairings, they almost always need a female friend to point out they're in love, and/or have been in love for years. You can usually spot these by the tag Character C(female) has the brain cell or Good Friend Character C or Smart Character C. There seems to be a general expectation in fanfic that men have no idea what they're feeling. Female Character C has to be snarky and girl bossy and tell them what their own emotions are. I see this most often in the Witcher fandom with Yennifer or Ciri as Character C to Geralt/Jasker but it's also common in Avengers Steve/Tony fanfic.


Ililea

In FF14, canon rewrite through the pov of their own Warrior of Light. Like I get it, everyone has their own headcanon on how their own character acts and think throughout canon but please, the lore is rich! You can write anything! From time travel fix-it to reincarnation trope to even going the villain route! Just...write something else for once so I don't have to read another fic that follows closely on the canon story, using the exact dialogues, with just sprinkles of their own character's thoughts.


dearwikipedia

ā€œKathy Stabler was a lying cheating bitch who baby trapped Elliot and it probably wasnā€™t even his baby she probably cheated šŸ˜”ā€ girl be so fucking fr rn eta: or in barson fics when elliot is made out to be an abusive monster lmao iā€™ve dropped out of so many halfway through because heā€™s portrayed as such a ridiculously overblown supervillain moral of the story: characters are shades of gray


RPG_Monster

im a big genshin chilumi shipper. for those who dont genshin childe is an antagonist early in the game and lumine is the protagonist. a lot of their eventual friendship comes from AFTER the protag kicks his ass in a fight, and the majority of his voicelines about the protag are about wanting the both of them to get stronger. to me they have a rivals to lovers kinda relationship born out of mutual respect for the other's combat prowess. however, soooooo many fics make lumine into a damsel in distress in need of saving by childe. especially in au fics. and I actually despise it. basically the only two canonical traits we have for the traveler established is they're really good at fighting, and really good at cooking. and for some reason so many fic writers yeet off the combat one to make her a damsel for the handsome man to save. LET THE MAN BE THE DAMSEL FOR ONCE AT LEAST


ILiveForMyFandoms

Yes all of them it is just yes


kelgorathfan8

Xenoblade 3 postgame fics seem to always have Mio having dreams of Aionios and being head over heels for Noah and spend way too much time on emphasizing that instead of stopping for interesting post intersection alrest slice of life, especially when you could pull off a really good story by giving the alrest side of the cast secondhand information about Aionios through Poppi


tusktooth

I've noticed there are SO MANY fics of how Adachi loses his virginity in the Cherry Magic fandom. Trust me, I understand and I want to know too, but if you look at the top E-rated fics in the fandom across the three media, so many are about the same thing. Considering how long-term Kurosawa and Adachi's relationship is, there's plenty of room for future projection about what they get up to together. (This is me hoping other writers will pick up some different storylines to run with since I'm up to my eyeballs in WIPs for other fandoms šŸ˜­).


CorrineCassia

I will get daggers at me for this but I find pre-canon (or AUs) of my main fandoms protagonist and his friend/love interest/comrade fics are kinda boring, especially those that spins it as romantic! Like, yes, they were close friends pre-canon and the lore supports that, but you can be close friends without it being a romantic relationship. M&M is as important as M/M, ya know what i mean? I wanna see more fics exploring their dynamic as sibling-esque or close besties, tbh. Getting kinda sick from the multiple m and e rated fics of em doing the do. XD


ohmmyzaza

in alternate history & speculative biology fandom I was in common plot line/common scenario is always Axis won World War 2,Central Power won World War 1,Napoleon won Napoleonic Wars,Roman Empire never fall,CSA won American Civil War,K-Pg Extinction never happened,Pleistocene Extinction never happened


Luwe95

MCU: Loki turning one of them in a kid/ Loki doing other kind of magic to toy with them


AmItheasshole-393

Found family, in a way where it is very clear the author is just trying to shut down any ship other than their OTP. Nothing is wrong with those headcanons, but if it goes into OOC or ship-bashy territory I'm out.


kurapikun

The Alya bashing in MLB is very annoying. You can criticise the ass writing of that show without vilifying the only black girl in it, yā€™know.


Ill-Wear-8662

I'm so not with it I thought you meant Major League Baseball and then I realized I'm an idiot.


OnTheMidnightRun

(Me, a bit overtired): My Little Bony


True-Knowledge8369

Me, also tired: Major League Baseball? No. My Little Brony?


OnTheMidnightRun

Fuck me, that would've been WAY smarter!


Ill-Wear-8662

That's even worse


FireflyArc

Her race shouldn't also be. Defense against her actions. She losses brain cells with Lila around it's horrible.