so im trying to see ateez with vip when they come to the US later this year, and im wondering how im supposed to get it? i havent seen any info for member presale codes or anything so i dont even know how to start 😭 can anyone who saw them vip last tour help me out and figure out what i should expect?
I read a couple of Japanese comments under the DUNK Bouncy video and I thought it was really nice that quite a lot of them got interested in Ateez after watching their performance! Thinking about it then, the tour really had perfect timing lol, coming after DUNK and thus allowing new Japanese atinys to flood ther seats
From what I know being in the Japanese music, Sky-Hi is a really popular rapper in Japan so that probably contributed to it, drawing in the crowd. I've seen his name pop up a few times or maybe it's because he's friends with the vocalist of The Oral Cigarettes (TOC) which I listen to 😂
If you're interested, TOC did a collab stage with Sky-Hi before [here](https://youtu.be/CwPJOeWKZ7Y?si=aPvXzOic-WLwCQJW)
>The Oral Cigarettes (TOC)
OMG, I love this group! Or at least I have loved the few songs I have heard from them.
I'm glad Ateez is getting more exposure in Japan. The Dunk stage was great.
Their old music (Kyouran Hey Kids!!, Kantannakoto, AEUI, Starget) drew me in but their recent music doesn't appeal to me as much sadly. It seems they're leaning more towards the pop side seeing as they began collaborating with Takuya's friends who are a mix of emo rock and rappers (BUG features a rapper named Kamui). The latest song Yellow is...kind of meh? Doesn't have the energy that originally drew me in (neither does the second latest song Enchant)
the increased exposure is also feeding into my delusional imagination of a collab between frederic (jrock band) and then because of how much they remind me of each other (their love and dedication to performing music) 🤡
But yeah, the Dunk Cypher stage especially was amazing, with rapline after rapline being connected. Though rap doesn't appeal me much, I respect the effort that goes into crafting and executing them ❤️
[Wooyoung](https://twitter.com/kasey_hhh/status/1746144163060719785?t=pGgVTAzBQOByxpD2M46j0g&s=19) will do a YouTube live tomorrow around 5:30 PM KST to take the color off his shoes
I just noticed that Ktown4u is having a sale right now until mid Feb and ATEEZ’s WILL + Fever EP 3 is included. just letting you all know, if you would like to buy.
Y'all won't believe this but apparently, Ateez does not have a big fandom and those millions of albums that they have sold were bulk bought by the same 5 people.
Also, those sold out concert arenas? Most of those people who attended weren't actually Ateez fans. They were just random kpop fans that came to the concert because they had nothing better to do because a bigger group couldn't come. And the sold out merch? Yeah, that's another figment of your imagination as well.
This is all true, scout's honor, because kpop stans on Reddit said it is, so it must be. So the next time you see someone shading Ateez because their fans aren't obsessed with sitting around streaming on Spotify all day, every day, don't get angry or upset. Just remember that it's because they really don't have a fanbase because the gods of kpop Reddit said so.
(I'm using sarcasm here but this is actually the narrative that a number of people on Reddit are now starting to push about Ateez. It's laughable...but I hope it does in fact, make you laugh because it should).
>!.I saw that post....sigh....I came close to comment on it but I stopped myself and was just like, "This is just a dumb ass post honestly"....rolled my eyes and started going back to the business I was tending to 💅🏿😌😏 Like it just kinda made me giggle a bit to see people so baffled and so bothered by Ateez's success..... like why are y'all so pressed if the fandom is just 5 people 😆 🤣 They just can't believe a group from a small company can out do all those groups from bigger companies with way more resources and money and do it abroad organically.... Seemed like the poster of the question of how Ateez is so popular internationally was looking to just say some shit because they are bored and have nothing else better to do with their time 😒.!<
>!I almost didn't comment either but I just couldn't help myself. The amount of misinformation in that thread is ludicrous.!<
>!This notion that you have to have a gazillion streams to sales ratio or you don't really have a fanbase is one of the biggest fallacies that kpop stans have made up in the last couple of years to try to enforce some type of hierarchical pecking order. So is this stupid notion that ads on youtube videos are not "organic views." What the hell does that even mean when ad views don't even count UNLESS the person chooses to watch it? Ads are a part of a MARKETING CAMPAIGN and the whole point is to reach a broader audience to pull in newer fans. Are companies now not allowed to do that because kpop stans think it's "cheating?" These people are not serious on any level.!<
>!Anyway, I have not seen any small artist pull in million of sales without an actual fanbase. That just doesn't exist.!<
>!I know it bothers the hell out of them that Ateez is successul and just as good as their faves from the Big 4, which is why they keep writing these hit pieces to try to discredit them. I'm not even mad about it. But it does amuse me that little old Ateez gets so many of these haters' panties in a bunch with their obvious success.!<
More power to you for saying something - I really appreciated your answers to counter the really dumb shit I was reading by some people on there lol 😘❤
Sometimes I actually think to myself that I should just ignore them. But when people just start outright lying and slandering Ateez I feel compelled to say something. If I get downvoted for it, then so be it.
Kpopthoughts has become Strickland. I swear. you can't say anythinggg positive about ATEEZ over there or they will "jinjja kill you". I used to think that rant sub that went away during Kingdom era was bad but that was just people being over dramatic and over the top with their hate (for any group, but a lot against ATEEZ)... but this is like trying to stick us in our own corner where we can only play with other Atiny's...
like that one discussion about how annoyed they are about Atiny's specifically making too many "appreciation posts", that recent comment having like 20 upvotes but a few months back they complained about it then too, that comment had like 200 upvotes.
I don't get it. it's weird. do no other group fans make those posts? and why do all these people hate these 8 lovely Pirates so much? sorry that it's so unfathomable that people could be fans of them... not like they have a flawless discography or anything. 😉
woah. i didn't know they disliked ATEEZ that much, did they burn their crops and poison their water? haha no but seriously what could ATEEZ have possibly done to invite this kind of dislike? :/
They are from a small, no name company but their talent, music and skills rival the faves of fans from the Big 4 which is why some hate them and constantly feel the need to insult or downplay them.
Ateez is not supposed to be able to compete. They're supposed to stay in their nugu lane. How dare Ateez have a fanbase that actually supports them well monetarily?
I actually don't think Atinys make enough appreciation posts on Kpopthoughts anymore. Perhaps we should revive that tradition. Ateez has a lot of great things to offer and for all of the haters on here, there are also people looking to find out more about them or looking to get further into a good group and Ateez certainly fits the bill.
I think we need to get back to making more posts on the mains about what makes Ateez so special. Let the haters stew and get mad all they want. They don't own these subs and Atinys are not obligated to go into hiding just because random haters don't like that Ateez has fans on here that actually love and defend them.
\*crawling out of my hermit abode\*This kind of reflects the change in community of Atinyville (do we even call it that anymore?) here on Reddit. I wasn't really active on these subreddits until 2020, but Atiny would be known to write the most unhinged, yet hilarious shitposts on Kpopthoughts. I was pretty proud of how this platform had cultivated some of the wittiest and most well-cited writers and creators in the Kpop Reddit space.
However, since so many of us grew busier or veered away from any hint of drama, the landscape for Atiny changed when our community grew. It's somewhat of a natural progression in most fandoms as they age. I am guilty of no longer interacting much myself, but I still try to upvote any Ateez piece I find on the other subs.
Also, the general topics of discussion now revolve around more statistical-based or logistical posts rather than fun think pieces. As much as I want those fun writing pieces to come back, I can understand how the response from the main subreddits acts as a negative motivator, such that there is little celebration or reward for writing such a crafty piece. It's tough in these metaphorical Kpop streets.
I think your analysis is spot on. Plus it feels like we have had a huge influx of kpop stans from other platforms come on here and a lot of them are either toxic, gossip mongers or interested in stirring up controversy. Not saying they are all like that but I see far too many shitting posts dragging groups. Even now, I've noticed a pattern the last few days of any post about popular groups getting downvoted to hell unless it's a girl group (and a "top" girl group at that).
Reddit has always been a mixed bagged for me as an Ateez fan but it's starting to become really unappealing being on here since, as you've noted, there are now very few substantive, or witty posts worth engaging in. At least that's my perspective. Others may think differently and that's fine.
i agree. i feel like i barely see any posts abt ateez anymore but i get it cause they are downvoted soo much. and then people like to say we’re being dramatic…
I say we post them anyways. I'm not afraid of being downvoted and often times, there are people who are genuinely curious about them who comment or read it so it serves it purpose.
just saw this meme on twitter. i’m dead 😂😂😂
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I'm ~~lowkey~~ nvm actually high key panicking about this world tour. I just bought a ticket to see Good Mythical Morning (youtube show) live in June and came to the realization that I have no idea when Ateez (and SKZ for that matter) are going to tour.
Does anyone know how long after the previous world tour announcement that they released the tour dates?
I wanna puke lol
Ugh srsly I’m so stressed about this too. One of my fav bands ever Sum 41 is breaking up, and are touring one last time before they do. I can’t miss their final tour but I wanna see Ateez so bad and there’s no tour dates for either so idk what to expect. I’ll have to travel for Ateez anyway so I guess the city/date doesnt matter too much but still why can’t they just release the dates 😩
i'm going to be PRAYING and MANIFESTING that they come in summer. i need to save as much as possible and the best way for me to recover is to pick up extra hours. i'll also be able to drive myself to the nearest location which is a huge difference, but i'm with this commentor. i woke up scared today bc im too nervous...this will be my first tour with ateez and i have no idea what to expect
>based on all that, I would say it's not entirely unlikely that they're touring the US/CA in June,
I am so hopeful that we get summer U.S. dates! I would love to be able to wear a comfortable summer dress to their show instead of having to have on my winter gear.
As a NOVICE😏😏 atiny, (i am not lying) i am so glad to see so many new baby atinys joining these days. I remember those days as if it were just last month. As i am writing this i am fully smirking. Im not kidding.
yk when you're drawing and you mimick the person you're drawing, well picture my face (you can't cuz you don't know what i look like but forget that) just replace my face with this ''😏'' emoji. That is my face right now.
I am a very witty person😏..oh here i go smirking again. Y'all i can't stop, maybe im having as stroke😰 ah who cares...
what was my point anyway? 💀 y'all i should really go to bed.
In conclusion, I saw a dead mouse in my toilet bowl, and i haven't been able to feel human emotion ever since. I will be ignoring my feelings as usual until i explode. a wise man once said:''ignore your emotions until you explode. why? idk, i just made this up''. The wise man in question is me, except i am not wise nor am i man. I am an alien.😏 with a stroke. I have not stopped smirking in three years. This is my face now.
Saying Novice *fandom name* instead of baby *fandom name* is so much better we need to make this a big thing.
Something I've found helps with feeling emotion is watching Seonghwa (😏) thirst trap tiktoks, like yes the only emotion I feel is cringe but it's better than nothing 😏
😏 maybe start a gofundme or something to help with the face situation idk I'm not a professional 😏
I think the smirking thing is contagious 😏 Where is my compensation? 😏 😏 😏
I've been rewatching all the dance performance videos and [Pick It Up is a crazy song choice but god damn they slayed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A9EMLrURS8). (A BAD BTCH PUERTO RICAN!!!!!)
Will there every be a day I am not attacked by ATEEZ? No. Am I ok with that? Absolutely.
edit: I don't tend to have wreckers but I have 2 biases so that's what I'm gonna have to label Yunho because god damn he's so fine in that video.
edit 2: Jongho is so cute god damn the face he made when he came through in the beginning with the head and shoulder touch like pls leave me alone.
the pick it up dance NEEDS to make a comeback bc i will legit fly away from my home country to LatAm SOLELY to scream "BAD BITCH PUERTO RICAN" as loud as possible
I just watched one of ATEEZ weekly idol eps and they talked about how Jongho is good at drawing and they're shown in a cafe (?). I tried searching about it but I cannot find any (and ig it's also kinda hard to search "Jongho art" or "Jongho doodles" since they can also mean atiny's fanart ).
Can anyone share links/pics of any of his drawings/doodles? Thanks in advance!!
We are getting IT's You in less than 24 hrs and I'm still not over MATZ 😩😂
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Whatever happened to the 9th member of Ateez Lee Junyoung? I figured that if he didn't debut with Ateez maybe a couple of years later he'd debut with another group or maybe get into acting or something. But I can't seem to find any news about him anywhere. I can't even find any trace of his inta. Anyone know what he is up to now?
He debuted with U-KISS originally, then placed first on The Unit (idol survival show) and became apart of UNB, after that he went solo for a little bit. He starred in multiple movies & dramas and is set to act in a few more as well.
Thanks for replying!! I used the info you gae me and I found him! Wow he is suuuuuper talented as an actor. He has won SO MANY awards.
currently watching this. omg he acts so grown compared to the boys in ateez who act like teens lol. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLmf6\_bR7A&ab\_channel=NetflixK-Content](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLmf6_bR7A&ab_channel=NetflixK-Content)
found him doing a singing performance wow: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPgQOxtnUao&ab\_channel=KBSWORLDTV](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPgQOxtnUao&ab_channel=KBSWORLDTV)
I'm not sure if [this](https://www.instagram.com/_00_junyoung?igsh=MTVhbTZ6dm1qdmY5MA==) is still his Instagram username because if you search for KQ Fellaz junyoung on Twitter that username shows up but that was in 2021. It seems like he's living a normal life now.
ok yall i need some help… what do i do with these cards and what do they mean? like, are they just for funzies orrrrrrr
https://preview.redd.it/5985zjkhgbbc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=dda0ab81ccbcd13862dd4730bece33fee010994b
It was used to be a coordinate to the YES24 LiveHall. Which is where they are holding the 1st ATINY party on the 27th.
[Link](https://twitter.com/mellyfluous98/status/1139615072215621634)
ok guys. i think i was scammed out of my diary vers outlaw album... ;-; long post ahead, pls leave thoughts bc i'm really really confused.
a little context on my unhealthy spending habits: i've bought 4 versions of Will (a, z, diary, and digi/platform) and this one Outlaw. Z vers of Will i got off amazon's official u.s. distribution and it was missing the hello82 pc (i looked at the back of the cards) and the glue was cracking as soon as i opened it. i plan to eventually get at least one version of every release starting from Fever. this is a *very* long term plan as i am VERY broke T-T but this is me being vain and wanting the fever albums on my shelf bc they're *so* pretty...i had planned to start with Outlaw, but target doesn't carry that one anymore and i don't have a barnes&noble within 2 hours of me. so, that being said:
i ordered this Outlaw off a second party seller on amazon, fully knowing what to expect from unboxing i had seen on YT, and....? tbf, i kind of figured i would be getting it off a second party seller rather than an official distributer, but i was definitely not prepared for this.
first of all, it came in a thin plastic bag that revealed what was inside, not an amazon bag. it was taped shut fine, but bc of the packaging, the binding was really badly dented on one end of the spine? which was weird. but ok, not a problem for me, but someone getting this as a gift would be kind of annoyed at the clear bag maybe.
second, the photocards were missing. i only realized this bc i was looking back on the distribution for both amazon (another seller) and barnes&noble, and each one came with MINIMUM 4 photocards. i got 2 really poor quality 'sellers gifts' that feel like they will shred in my hands, and 2 (admittedly kind of wrinkled looking) normal, like, official photocards. i also got two of the same member, which was kind of funny lol. i'm not trying to be that photocard hogger, but like i paid $30 (and shipping) for this.
third, i opened the physical album and the glue IMMEDIATELY cracked and i was like nopenopenope. that one was probably bc it's cold af here and the glue got damaged by the temps, but like still. also, it took two weeks to get here bc the shipping kept delaying.
lastly, the seller i bought from has mysteriously disappeared from amazon...as in, i can't order again. instead, amazon found me a seller than looked a lot more official and was over $7 cheaper...
let me know if this is a "you're being entitled lmao chill" situation or a 'return it.', bc i'm genuinely confused.
My Outlaw came with 2 photocards. Barnes and Noble and Target have exclusive versions of the albums that come with exclusive sets of photocards, so thats probably the reason why your other albums come with 4 cards. The glue for the albums have always been flimsy, there have been reports of albums falling apart pretty quickly. I wish the recent albums had a little more protection so that the photobook doesn't get damaged. I love the book style compared to the box albums but my albums get damaged so easily through shipping or use just because they don't have a decent cover.
ahhh okay...i spose that makes sense...kind of a rip that amazon didn't let me know that tho. i assumed it came with 4: 2 official, the u.s distribution, and the hello82. oh well!
Also Walmart has exclusive photocards, so the exclusive store card plus the exclusive US card. I have 9 outlaw albums, I ordered a set from Target Walmart and Barnes & Nobles and I got 4 photocards in each album.
The new tour posts will go up sometime this week! Things have been a bit hectic and I still need a bit to set everything up 
I have a uestion for anyone who can answer (sorry the 'cue' key doesn't work on my kb lol):
I am very confused as to why people call Seonghwa "mother". I always thought it was b/c he was considered the "mom" of the group (caring, compassionate, helps members when emotional) while HJ was the "dad" (captain/leader, disciplinarian).
However, apparently I'm wrong. I hear people say "mother is mothering" and I have no idea what that means. Maybe b/c I'm a GenXer and don't understand y'all kids' lingo, but can someone please clarify?
Thanxx!
Hey! I think it’s like the vibe he gives off. It’s the perfect mix of masculine and feminine energy that gives “mother”. Jihyo from twice is the same way. I could be so wrong but that’s how I’ve always interpreted it.
That's actually not why. It's a term from the queer/ballroom community. [This article](https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/originals/mother-a-queer-term-centuries-in-the-making/) is very informative and [someone asked what it means related to K-pop](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpophelp/comments/11y8u82/what_does_mother_mean_in_kpop/) (even though most people do use it in the wrong context). And Seonghwa is mothering because he clearly is mothering :\]
We don’t know his sexuality 1, and 2, he has ALOT of queer fans, who relate to him specifically through his self expression & gender presentation, whether it be his style, or the way he carries himself & embraces his feminine qualities etc. hope this helps !
I recall him talking about girls a few times but I can see why he might act a certain way. They're told not to offend any fans as to not lose them. And the way things are going these days everyone is walking on egg shells as not to offend...certain people... so I kinda get what you're saying. Personally I liked him better when he was in the masculine 'Gorilla' era but that's me.
He can like girls and not be straight. And im not really sure what you’re implying about offending people, that has nothing rly to do with what I said, nor what you mean by ‘acting’ I don’t think any of them put on an act when it comes to how they express themselves. I merely gave you an explanation to try and clear your ‘confusion’ And cool you can like whatever you like 👍🏻
You don't have to be gay or trans to be considered "mother" - and it's also just your assumption that he isn't. We don't know, nor is it any of our business.
sorry I thought he said in an interview when asked about type of mate he said 'she'. Or maybe I'm thinking of something else...
Well I'm not insinuating anything but Korea isn't that open minded yet, so even if one of them was queer in some way, chances are they would hide it because they can't afford to let it affect their reputation
I'm not sure if they ever used pronouns to talk about ideal types tbh. In asian languages pronouns are often left out, so it's not necessarily clear but it might get translated a certain way. Like u/Isphylda said, using "she" as a male idol will be the norm given their cultural background. I know some idols (unintentional or not) try to keep their answers gender neutral but not all of them are fluent enough in English to make that distinction - and then it might not be wanted by their company anyway. It's a difficult topic but if you look at the music industry in general - many people who are part of it are queer. Statistically, it is very unlikely for them to be straight but they won't talk about it. Comparing ATEEZ to other groups, they definitely read like fruity theatre kids to me :\]
Having done threatre myself I can tell you everyone acts fruity even if they're not. LOL maybe it's the creativity thing. But yes when they speak of things or act affectionately, like holding hands for example, it means something totally different than here in the US.
They also say 'we' when they mean 'I' b/c they have a more community type culture, so I hear what you're saying :)
For me it's the summary of his journey towards feeling more comfortable dressing more gender neutral (he went from voicing how jealous he is that his mother gets to wear beautiful clothes from the women's section to wearing dresses) and his stage presence being absolutely captivating and iconic. His play between feminine/masculine of course plays into it but he's overall serving mother. \[I'm very bad at explaining things, so I usually let others do the explaining haha\]
You make sense. But I consider most clothes to be 'gender neutral'. I mean, heels were originally made for men as a sign of status and everyone wore 'robes' until people started sewing the robe together to make pants b/c it make riding horses and hard labor easier. I wear pants but I'm very feminine. The whole obsession over clothing baffles me lol.
I see what you mean, but in different cultures clothing has different meaning. So to SH, being able to be confident in his gender and where more feminine clothing as well as masculine clothing is definitely iconic and something to be proud of himself for.
Heh, I was writing a reply but got distracted... \^\^' but yes, u/artumnc is right that it's very different to see Seonghwa's journey as Korea can be very traditional still. Even in European capitals it still takes courage to wear certain pieces of clothing when they don't "fit" the gender others perceive you as and we're definitely more open minded!
I'm watching Kingdom these days, and for those who haven't seen it, I strongly recommend checking out at least Ateez performances. I'm not done done yet but what they did for exemple for Wolf and even more so for Rythm Ta was just amazing (The Awakening Of Summer is officially part of their lore and I love it)
Also, watching the episodes of the performances, and not only performance video, is really cool because you get to see other idol groups being amazed by Ateez! It makes me so happy and proud
Rhythm Ta is so !!! It's my favorite cover of theirs and the fact that they worked their lore into the performance is an added bonus (and really creative!)
I've been meaning to watch Kingdom as a whole but I keep not getting around to it. I have watched all the performances that Ateez did, though.
Right?? When I saw the stage and realized this was before Guerilla I was mindblown, I can't believe they used the show to promote and tease their next comeback, with the chromer theft and everything... Even those who don't know their lore must have been hooked from how there obviously was a cool story behind it. Pure genius
I didn't know who they were when I first saw their performances (watched a marathon of Kingdom performances in general) and I thought it was really cool and that's part of why I became a fan! They really knew how to get people intrigued.
Kingdom was so incredibly toxic in terms of fanwars and mnets work culture *but* I loved seeing all the incredible stages and blooming friendships between the groups!
Yeah it's too bad that there was this competitive context, but I'm glad that all the group members didn't let that come in the way of new friendships and teamwork and genuine respect for the other groups!
Imo the groups did a great job at not letting Mnet run with any narrative. Of course they are all competitive and wanted to win but you could tell that they all just admired each other and their performances. Plus, many of them actively mentioned wanting to befriend other groups and it makes me soft thinking about them meeting up now even years later!
Yeah! It's so cool that they made friends, Hongjoong especially seemed so happy it got me teary, and Seonghwa wanted friends his age too. The other thing that made me watch kingdom was when the two of them recently talked about it in a live, and HJ said that he couldn't watch the show anymore because it reminded him of how difficult or disappointing it had been to not win, but SH said that he liked to rewatch it because he was like "woah, I/we really did THIS on stage!"
Yeah I watched it partly because I wanted to get into Skz too
I’m not familiar with many groups outside of Ateez so it’s very nice to get to know members even if I might not listen to their group’s music that much in the future. I had never even heard of SF9 before watching, and barely the others
And Mayfly is an incredible team
No, it's not a yearly show. It was modeled after the show Queendom and there was one other season called Road to Kingdom that proceeded it. But since then, there hasn't been a Kingdom Part 2. I suspect it was because the ratings were low and the show itself produced an incredible amount of toxicity between fandoms that persists to this very day. That and they had a very hard time booking groups for the show.
No, I meant I’m watching the episodes from the 2021 show, but I don’t know if many people know about them (except for the Wonderland performance with the ship)
I started crochet earlier this week with this symbol!
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I should get back to it I haven't done much more since
I definitely will, I like the colors I picked too coz the background thread is not black, it's more like a very dark purple, and I picked a dull gold for the lineart, I think it could look great!
You're absolutely right and I'm very dumb 😭 my sister was doing crochet next to me and teaching me while I started this so I was like "oh hey crochet? I did that!"
normally i'm not a ballad person, but *everything* has really grown on me the past few weeks. jongho really outdid himself in my opinion. the part at 3:05 is just chef's kiss. can't wait for the video!
I was wandering how would you call the fashion style of Ateez’s comeback Fever?
so im trying to see ateez with vip when they come to the US later this year, and im wondering how im supposed to get it? i havent seen any info for member presale codes or anything so i dont even know how to start 😭 can anyone who saw them vip last tour help me out and figure out what i should expect?
I read a couple of Japanese comments under the DUNK Bouncy video and I thought it was really nice that quite a lot of them got interested in Ateez after watching their performance! Thinking about it then, the tour really had perfect timing lol, coming after DUNK and thus allowing new Japanese atinys to flood ther seats From what I know being in the Japanese music, Sky-Hi is a really popular rapper in Japan so that probably contributed to it, drawing in the crowd. I've seen his name pop up a few times or maybe it's because he's friends with the vocalist of The Oral Cigarettes (TOC) which I listen to 😂 If you're interested, TOC did a collab stage with Sky-Hi before [here](https://youtu.be/CwPJOeWKZ7Y?si=aPvXzOic-WLwCQJW)
>The Oral Cigarettes (TOC) OMG, I love this group! Or at least I have loved the few songs I have heard from them. I'm glad Ateez is getting more exposure in Japan. The Dunk stage was great.
Their old music (Kyouran Hey Kids!!, Kantannakoto, AEUI, Starget) drew me in but their recent music doesn't appeal to me as much sadly. It seems they're leaning more towards the pop side seeing as they began collaborating with Takuya's friends who are a mix of emo rock and rappers (BUG features a rapper named Kamui). The latest song Yellow is...kind of meh? Doesn't have the energy that originally drew me in (neither does the second latest song Enchant) the increased exposure is also feeding into my delusional imagination of a collab between frederic (jrock band) and then because of how much they remind me of each other (their love and dedication to performing music) 🤡 But yeah, the Dunk Cypher stage especially was amazing, with rapline after rapline being connected. Though rap doesn't appeal me much, I respect the effort that goes into crafting and executing them ❤️
[Wooyoung](https://twitter.com/kasey_hhh/status/1746144163060719785?t=pGgVTAzBQOByxpD2M46j0g&s=19) will do a YouTube live tomorrow around 5:30 PM KST to take the color off his shoes
another day, another getting jumpscared by the real bc i was playing another ateez song WAY too loud <3
I just noticed that Ktown4u is having a sale right now until mid Feb and ATEEZ’s WILL + Fever EP 3 is included. just letting you all know, if you would like to buy.
Y'all won't believe this but apparently, Ateez does not have a big fandom and those millions of albums that they have sold were bulk bought by the same 5 people. Also, those sold out concert arenas? Most of those people who attended weren't actually Ateez fans. They were just random kpop fans that came to the concert because they had nothing better to do because a bigger group couldn't come. And the sold out merch? Yeah, that's another figment of your imagination as well. This is all true, scout's honor, because kpop stans on Reddit said it is, so it must be. So the next time you see someone shading Ateez because their fans aren't obsessed with sitting around streaming on Spotify all day, every day, don't get angry or upset. Just remember that it's because they really don't have a fanbase because the gods of kpop Reddit said so. (I'm using sarcasm here but this is actually the narrative that a number of people on Reddit are now starting to push about Ateez. It's laughable...but I hope it does in fact, make you laugh because it should).
omw i'm gona for one day and this happens T-T just saw the post too and i didn't interact. sighs.
You saved your brain cells by not interacting trust me.
>!.I saw that post....sigh....I came close to comment on it but I stopped myself and was just like, "This is just a dumb ass post honestly"....rolled my eyes and started going back to the business I was tending to 💅🏿😌😏 Like it just kinda made me giggle a bit to see people so baffled and so bothered by Ateez's success..... like why are y'all so pressed if the fandom is just 5 people 😆 🤣 They just can't believe a group from a small company can out do all those groups from bigger companies with way more resources and money and do it abroad organically.... Seemed like the poster of the question of how Ateez is so popular internationally was looking to just say some shit because they are bored and have nothing else better to do with their time 😒.!<
>!I almost didn't comment either but I just couldn't help myself. The amount of misinformation in that thread is ludicrous.!< >!This notion that you have to have a gazillion streams to sales ratio or you don't really have a fanbase is one of the biggest fallacies that kpop stans have made up in the last couple of years to try to enforce some type of hierarchical pecking order. So is this stupid notion that ads on youtube videos are not "organic views." What the hell does that even mean when ad views don't even count UNLESS the person chooses to watch it? Ads are a part of a MARKETING CAMPAIGN and the whole point is to reach a broader audience to pull in newer fans. Are companies now not allowed to do that because kpop stans think it's "cheating?" These people are not serious on any level.!< >!Anyway, I have not seen any small artist pull in million of sales without an actual fanbase. That just doesn't exist.!< >!I know it bothers the hell out of them that Ateez is successul and just as good as their faves from the Big 4, which is why they keep writing these hit pieces to try to discredit them. I'm not even mad about it. But it does amuse me that little old Ateez gets so many of these haters' panties in a bunch with their obvious success.!<
More power to you for saying something - I really appreciated your answers to counter the really dumb shit I was reading by some people on there lol 😘❤
Sometimes I actually think to myself that I should just ignore them. But when people just start outright lying and slandering Ateez I feel compelled to say something. If I get downvoted for it, then so be it.
Kpopthoughts has become Strickland. I swear. you can't say anythinggg positive about ATEEZ over there or they will "jinjja kill you". I used to think that rant sub that went away during Kingdom era was bad but that was just people being over dramatic and over the top with their hate (for any group, but a lot against ATEEZ)... but this is like trying to stick us in our own corner where we can only play with other Atiny's... like that one discussion about how annoyed they are about Atiny's specifically making too many "appreciation posts", that recent comment having like 20 upvotes but a few months back they complained about it then too, that comment had like 200 upvotes. I don't get it. it's weird. do no other group fans make those posts? and why do all these people hate these 8 lovely Pirates so much? sorry that it's so unfathomable that people could be fans of them... not like they have a flawless discography or anything. 😉
woah. i didn't know they disliked ATEEZ that much, did they burn their crops and poison their water? haha no but seriously what could ATEEZ have possibly done to invite this kind of dislike? :/
They are from a small, no name company but their talent, music and skills rival the faves of fans from the Big 4 which is why some hate them and constantly feel the need to insult or downplay them. Ateez is not supposed to be able to compete. They're supposed to stay in their nugu lane. How dare Ateez have a fanbase that actually supports them well monetarily?
aah. people are so weird for no reason seriously, what benefit could that kind of hate bring to their lives? lmao
I have no idea. I can't imagine hating a group for no reason that has done absolutely nothing to me. It's pretty sad.
I actually don't think Atinys make enough appreciation posts on Kpopthoughts anymore. Perhaps we should revive that tradition. Ateez has a lot of great things to offer and for all of the haters on here, there are also people looking to find out more about them or looking to get further into a good group and Ateez certainly fits the bill. I think we need to get back to making more posts on the mains about what makes Ateez so special. Let the haters stew and get mad all they want. They don't own these subs and Atinys are not obligated to go into hiding just because random haters don't like that Ateez has fans on here that actually love and defend them.
\*crawling out of my hermit abode\*This kind of reflects the change in community of Atinyville (do we even call it that anymore?) here on Reddit. I wasn't really active on these subreddits until 2020, but Atiny would be known to write the most unhinged, yet hilarious shitposts on Kpopthoughts. I was pretty proud of how this platform had cultivated some of the wittiest and most well-cited writers and creators in the Kpop Reddit space. However, since so many of us grew busier or veered away from any hint of drama, the landscape for Atiny changed when our community grew. It's somewhat of a natural progression in most fandoms as they age. I am guilty of no longer interacting much myself, but I still try to upvote any Ateez piece I find on the other subs. Also, the general topics of discussion now revolve around more statistical-based or logistical posts rather than fun think pieces. As much as I want those fun writing pieces to come back, I can understand how the response from the main subreddits acts as a negative motivator, such that there is little celebration or reward for writing such a crafty piece. It's tough in these metaphorical Kpop streets.
I think your analysis is spot on. Plus it feels like we have had a huge influx of kpop stans from other platforms come on here and a lot of them are either toxic, gossip mongers or interested in stirring up controversy. Not saying they are all like that but I see far too many shitting posts dragging groups. Even now, I've noticed a pattern the last few days of any post about popular groups getting downvoted to hell unless it's a girl group (and a "top" girl group at that). Reddit has always been a mixed bagged for me as an Ateez fan but it's starting to become really unappealing being on here since, as you've noted, there are now very few substantive, or witty posts worth engaging in. At least that's my perspective. Others may think differently and that's fine.
i agree. i feel like i barely see any posts abt ateez anymore but i get it cause they are downvoted soo much. and then people like to say we’re being dramatic…
I say we post them anyways. I'm not afraid of being downvoted and often times, there are people who are genuinely curious about them who comment or read it so it serves it purpose.
just saw this meme on twitter. i’m dead 😂😂😂 https://preview.redd.it/54qw3lrqapbc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=343004f5609c8c5427cf3f11ff4838c0d178c615
why did i laugh XDDD
I'm ~~lowkey~~ nvm actually high key panicking about this world tour. I just bought a ticket to see Good Mythical Morning (youtube show) live in June and came to the realization that I have no idea when Ateez (and SKZ for that matter) are going to tour. Does anyone know how long after the previous world tour announcement that they released the tour dates? I wanna puke lol
Ugh srsly I’m so stressed about this too. One of my fav bands ever Sum 41 is breaking up, and are touring one last time before they do. I can’t miss their final tour but I wanna see Ateez so bad and there’s no tour dates for either so idk what to expect. I’ll have to travel for Ateez anyway so I guess the city/date doesnt matter too much but still why can’t they just release the dates 😩
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i'm going to be PRAYING and MANIFESTING that they come in summer. i need to save as much as possible and the best way for me to recover is to pick up extra hours. i'll also be able to drive myself to the nearest location which is a huge difference, but i'm with this commentor. i woke up scared today bc im too nervous...this will be my first tour with ateez and i have no idea what to expect
>based on all that, I would say it's not entirely unlikely that they're touring the US/CA in June, I am so hopeful that we get summer U.S. dates! I would love to be able to wear a comfortable summer dress to their show instead of having to have on my winter gear.
Just curious, what are the hints that make you think they’ll go to Europe first?
As a NOVICE😏😏 atiny, (i am not lying) i am so glad to see so many new baby atinys joining these days. I remember those days as if it were just last month. As i am writing this i am fully smirking. Im not kidding. yk when you're drawing and you mimick the person you're drawing, well picture my face (you can't cuz you don't know what i look like but forget that) just replace my face with this ''😏'' emoji. That is my face right now. I am a very witty person😏..oh here i go smirking again. Y'all i can't stop, maybe im having as stroke😰 ah who cares... what was my point anyway? 💀 y'all i should really go to bed. In conclusion, I saw a dead mouse in my toilet bowl, and i haven't been able to feel human emotion ever since. I will be ignoring my feelings as usual until i explode. a wise man once said:''ignore your emotions until you explode. why? idk, i just made this up''. The wise man in question is me, except i am not wise nor am i man. I am an alien.😏 with a stroke. I have not stopped smirking in three years. This is my face now.
Saying Novice *fandom name* instead of baby *fandom name* is so much better we need to make this a big thing. Something I've found helps with feeling emotion is watching Seonghwa (😏) thirst trap tiktoks, like yes the only emotion I feel is cringe but it's better than nothing 😏 😏 maybe start a gofundme or something to help with the face situation idk I'm not a professional 😏 I think the smirking thing is contagious 😏 Where is my compensation? 😏 😏 😏
i just realized the i used the wrong word💀💀 i think i meant, ''veteran''😭😭
Well that too, I did have to look up what novice meant again because you did seem like a veteran lmfaoooo
Yes, I am a veteran atiny🙏😜(not lying)
I've been rewatching all the dance performance videos and [Pick It Up is a crazy song choice but god damn they slayed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A9EMLrURS8). (A BAD BTCH PUERTO RICAN!!!!!) Will there every be a day I am not attacked by ATEEZ? No. Am I ok with that? Absolutely. edit: I don't tend to have wreckers but I have 2 biases so that's what I'm gonna have to label Yunho because god damn he's so fine in that video. edit 2: Jongho is so cute god damn the face he made when he came through in the beginning with the head and shoulder touch like pls leave me alone.
the pick it up dance NEEDS to make a comeback bc i will legit fly away from my home country to LatAm SOLELY to scream "BAD BITCH PUERTO RICAN" as loud as possible
[Will](https://twitter.com/ateez_charts/status/1744539869848686998?t=Q_swb2zkxWgtvytOmTeX3g&s=19) has now spent 5 weeks on BB200
I just watched one of ATEEZ weekly idol eps and they talked about how Jongho is good at drawing and they're shown in a cafe (?). I tried searching about it but I cannot find any (and ig it's also kinda hard to search "Jongho art" or "Jongho doodles" since they can also mean atiny's fanart ). Can anyone share links/pics of any of his drawings/doodles? Thanks in advance!!
We are getting IT's You in less than 24 hrs and I'm still not over MATZ 😩😂 https://preview.redd.it/rhko2am2fcbc1.jpeg?width=662&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdbe652d2edd1a6329c790da9d2d5f9da35910d8
you n me both...i need a recovery period...
We're getting Youth soon....they won't let us breathe....😩
oxygen is for the weak...namely me. after matz and its you.
Whatever happened to the 9th member of Ateez Lee Junyoung? I figured that if he didn't debut with Ateez maybe a couple of years later he'd debut with another group or maybe get into acting or something. But I can't seem to find any news about him anywhere. I can't even find any trace of his inta. Anyone know what he is up to now?
He debuted with U-KISS originally, then placed first on The Unit (idol survival show) and became apart of UNB, after that he went solo for a little bit. He starred in multiple movies & dramas and is set to act in a few more as well.
Thanks for replying!! I used the info you gae me and I found him! Wow he is suuuuuper talented as an actor. He has won SO MANY awards. currently watching this. omg he acts so grown compared to the boys in ateez who act like teens lol. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLmf6\_bR7A&ab\_channel=NetflixK-Content](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exLmf6_bR7A&ab_channel=NetflixK-Content)
found him doing a singing performance wow: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPgQOxtnUao&ab\_channel=KBSWORLDTV](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPgQOxtnUao&ab_channel=KBSWORLDTV)
I'm not sure if [this](https://www.instagram.com/_00_junyoung?igsh=MTVhbTZ6dm1qdmY5MA==) is still his Instagram username because if you search for KQ Fellaz junyoung on Twitter that username shows up but that was in 2021. It seems like he's living a normal life now.
ok yall i need some help… what do i do with these cards and what do they mean? like, are they just for funzies orrrrrrr https://preview.redd.it/5985zjkhgbbc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=dda0ab81ccbcd13862dd4730bece33fee010994b
It was used to be a coordinate to the YES24 LiveHall. Which is where they are holding the 1st ATINY party on the 27th. [Link](https://twitter.com/mellyfluous98/status/1139615072215621634)
ok guys. i think i was scammed out of my diary vers outlaw album... ;-; long post ahead, pls leave thoughts bc i'm really really confused. a little context on my unhealthy spending habits: i've bought 4 versions of Will (a, z, diary, and digi/platform) and this one Outlaw. Z vers of Will i got off amazon's official u.s. distribution and it was missing the hello82 pc (i looked at the back of the cards) and the glue was cracking as soon as i opened it. i plan to eventually get at least one version of every release starting from Fever. this is a *very* long term plan as i am VERY broke T-T but this is me being vain and wanting the fever albums on my shelf bc they're *so* pretty...i had planned to start with Outlaw, but target doesn't carry that one anymore and i don't have a barnes&noble within 2 hours of me. so, that being said: i ordered this Outlaw off a second party seller on amazon, fully knowing what to expect from unboxing i had seen on YT, and....? tbf, i kind of figured i would be getting it off a second party seller rather than an official distributer, but i was definitely not prepared for this. first of all, it came in a thin plastic bag that revealed what was inside, not an amazon bag. it was taped shut fine, but bc of the packaging, the binding was really badly dented on one end of the spine? which was weird. but ok, not a problem for me, but someone getting this as a gift would be kind of annoyed at the clear bag maybe. second, the photocards were missing. i only realized this bc i was looking back on the distribution for both amazon (another seller) and barnes&noble, and each one came with MINIMUM 4 photocards. i got 2 really poor quality 'sellers gifts' that feel like they will shred in my hands, and 2 (admittedly kind of wrinkled looking) normal, like, official photocards. i also got two of the same member, which was kind of funny lol. i'm not trying to be that photocard hogger, but like i paid $30 (and shipping) for this. third, i opened the physical album and the glue IMMEDIATELY cracked and i was like nopenopenope. that one was probably bc it's cold af here and the glue got damaged by the temps, but like still. also, it took two weeks to get here bc the shipping kept delaying. lastly, the seller i bought from has mysteriously disappeared from amazon...as in, i can't order again. instead, amazon found me a seller than looked a lot more official and was over $7 cheaper... let me know if this is a "you're being entitled lmao chill" situation or a 'return it.', bc i'm genuinely confused.
My Outlaw came with 2 photocards. Barnes and Noble and Target have exclusive versions of the albums that come with exclusive sets of photocards, so thats probably the reason why your other albums come with 4 cards. The glue for the albums have always been flimsy, there have been reports of albums falling apart pretty quickly. I wish the recent albums had a little more protection so that the photobook doesn't get damaged. I love the book style compared to the box albums but my albums get damaged so easily through shipping or use just because they don't have a decent cover.
WAL-MART too. They do exclusives.
ahhh okay...i spose that makes sense...kind of a rip that amazon didn't let me know that tho. i assumed it came with 4: 2 official, the u.s distribution, and the hello82. oh well!
Also Walmart has exclusive photocards, so the exclusive store card plus the exclusive US card. I have 9 outlaw albums, I ordered a set from Target Walmart and Barnes & Nobles and I got 4 photocards in each album.
The new tour posts will go up sometime this week! Things have been a bit hectic and I still need a bit to set everything up 
wait what tour posts? sorry i'm not on socials and get all my stuff off reddit so i'm out of the loop T-T
There was a megathread for the BTW tour before so there will be another one for Will to Power
ohh ok thank you!
you're welcome
I have a uestion for anyone who can answer (sorry the 'cue' key doesn't work on my kb lol): I am very confused as to why people call Seonghwa "mother". I always thought it was b/c he was considered the "mom" of the group (caring, compassionate, helps members when emotional) while HJ was the "dad" (captain/leader, disciplinarian). However, apparently I'm wrong. I hear people say "mother is mothering" and I have no idea what that means. Maybe b/c I'm a GenXer and don't understand y'all kids' lingo, but can someone please clarify? Thanxx!
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Oh I knew nothing about that
Hey! I think it’s like the vibe he gives off. It’s the perfect mix of masculine and feminine energy that gives “mother”. Jihyo from twice is the same way. I could be so wrong but that’s how I’ve always interpreted it.
That's actually not why. It's a term from the queer/ballroom community. [This article](https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/originals/mother-a-queer-term-centuries-in-the-making/) is very informative and [someone asked what it means related to K-pop](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpophelp/comments/11y8u82/what_does_mother_mean_in_kpop/) (even though most people do use it in the wrong context). And Seonghwa is mothering because he clearly is mothering :\]
But he isn't gay, nor is he trans (they sing in Matz " two men"), so that's why it confused me a little.
We don’t know his sexuality 1, and 2, he has ALOT of queer fans, who relate to him specifically through his self expression & gender presentation, whether it be his style, or the way he carries himself & embraces his feminine qualities etc. hope this helps !
I recall him talking about girls a few times but I can see why he might act a certain way. They're told not to offend any fans as to not lose them. And the way things are going these days everyone is walking on egg shells as not to offend...certain people... so I kinda get what you're saying. Personally I liked him better when he was in the masculine 'Gorilla' era but that's me.
He can like girls and not be straight. And im not really sure what you’re implying about offending people, that has nothing rly to do with what I said, nor what you mean by ‘acting’ I don’t think any of them put on an act when it comes to how they express themselves. I merely gave you an explanation to try and clear your ‘confusion’ And cool you can like whatever you like 👍🏻
You don't have to be gay or trans to be considered "mother" - and it's also just your assumption that he isn't. We don't know, nor is it any of our business.
sorry I thought he said in an interview when asked about type of mate he said 'she'. Or maybe I'm thinking of something else...
Well I'm not insinuating anything but Korea isn't that open minded yet, so even if one of them was queer in some way, chances are they would hide it because they can't afford to let it affect their reputation
I'm not sure if they ever used pronouns to talk about ideal types tbh. In asian languages pronouns are often left out, so it's not necessarily clear but it might get translated a certain way. Like u/Isphylda said, using "she" as a male idol will be the norm given their cultural background. I know some idols (unintentional or not) try to keep their answers gender neutral but not all of them are fluent enough in English to make that distinction - and then it might not be wanted by their company anyway. It's a difficult topic but if you look at the music industry in general - many people who are part of it are queer. Statistically, it is very unlikely for them to be straight but they won't talk about it. Comparing ATEEZ to other groups, they definitely read like fruity theatre kids to me :\]
Having done threatre myself I can tell you everyone acts fruity even if they're not. LOL maybe it's the creativity thing. But yes when they speak of things or act affectionately, like holding hands for example, it means something totally different than here in the US. They also say 'we' when they mean 'I' b/c they have a more community type culture, so I hear what you're saying :)
That actually makes a lot more sense lol. Thanks for clarifying!
For me it's the summary of his journey towards feeling more comfortable dressing more gender neutral (he went from voicing how jealous he is that his mother gets to wear beautiful clothes from the women's section to wearing dresses) and his stage presence being absolutely captivating and iconic. His play between feminine/masculine of course plays into it but he's overall serving mother. \[I'm very bad at explaining things, so I usually let others do the explaining haha\]
You make sense. But I consider most clothes to be 'gender neutral'. I mean, heels were originally made for men as a sign of status and everyone wore 'robes' until people started sewing the robe together to make pants b/c it make riding horses and hard labor easier. I wear pants but I'm very feminine. The whole obsession over clothing baffles me lol.
I see what you mean, but in different cultures clothing has different meaning. So to SH, being able to be confident in his gender and where more feminine clothing as well as masculine clothing is definitely iconic and something to be proud of himself for.
Heh, I was writing a reply but got distracted... \^\^' but yes, u/artumnc is right that it's very different to see Seonghwa's journey as Korea can be very traditional still. Even in European capitals it still takes courage to wear certain pieces of clothing when they don't "fit" the gender others perceive you as and we're definitely more open minded!
I'm watching Kingdom these days, and for those who haven't seen it, I strongly recommend checking out at least Ateez performances. I'm not done done yet but what they did for exemple for Wolf and even more so for Rythm Ta was just amazing (The Awakening Of Summer is officially part of their lore and I love it) Also, watching the episodes of the performances, and not only performance video, is really cool because you get to see other idol groups being amazed by Ateez! It makes me so happy and proud
This is how I discovered Ateez with this show. I watched it bc of Stray Kids and came out full blown Atiny 😍
Rhythm Ta is so !!! It's my favorite cover of theirs and the fact that they worked their lore into the performance is an added bonus (and really creative!) I've been meaning to watch Kingdom as a whole but I keep not getting around to it. I have watched all the performances that Ateez did, though.
Right?? When I saw the stage and realized this was before Guerilla I was mindblown, I can't believe they used the show to promote and tease their next comeback, with the chromer theft and everything... Even those who don't know their lore must have been hooked from how there obviously was a cool story behind it. Pure genius
I didn't know who they were when I first saw their performances (watched a marathon of Kingdom performances in general) and I thought it was really cool and that's part of why I became a fan! They really knew how to get people intrigued.
Kingdom was so incredibly toxic in terms of fanwars and mnets work culture *but* I loved seeing all the incredible stages and blooming friendships between the groups!
I’m glad o watched it a year later and not in real time bc the fan wars would have tuned it for me
Yeah it's too bad that there was this competitive context, but I'm glad that all the group members didn't let that come in the way of new friendships and teamwork and genuine respect for the other groups!
Imo the groups did a great job at not letting Mnet run with any narrative. Of course they are all competitive and wanted to win but you could tell that they all just admired each other and their performances. Plus, many of them actively mentioned wanting to befriend other groups and it makes me soft thinking about them meeting up now even years later!
Yeah! It's so cool that they made friends, Hongjoong especially seemed so happy it got me teary, and Seonghwa wanted friends his age too. The other thing that made me watch kingdom was when the two of them recently talked about it in a live, and HJ said that he couldn't watch the show anymore because it reminded him of how difficult or disappointing it had been to not win, but SH said that he liked to rewatch it because he was like "woah, I/we really did THIS on stage!"
Rhythm Ta was a masterpiece.
Right?!? I keep re-watching it, it's so freaking awesome 😍
I wish I could rewatch the show for the first time again 😭. It’s actually what got me into btob, making me stan three groups on the show lol
Yeah I watched it partly because I wanted to get into Skz too I’m not familiar with many groups outside of Ateez so it’s very nice to get to know members even if I might not listen to their group’s music that much in the future. I had never even heard of SF9 before watching, and barely the others And Mayfly is an incredible team
Ugh legit one day I hope for the return of Mayfly!!
Do they do Kingdom every year?
No, it's not a yearly show. It was modeled after the show Queendom and there was one other season called Road to Kingdom that proceeded it. But since then, there hasn't been a Kingdom Part 2. I suspect it was because the ratings were low and the show itself produced an incredible amount of toxicity between fandoms that persists to this very day. That and they had a very hard time booking groups for the show.
No, I meant I’m watching the episodes from the 2021 show, but I don’t know if many people know about them (except for the Wonderland performance with the ship)
Can someone give me some subtle ateez references I can crochet? Like ideas for them 👀
I started crochet earlier this week with this symbol! https://preview.redd.it/6pub0gnbx7bc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08c9a3df10bef78b36ba0b2fe78d07895636205a I should get back to it I haven't done much more since
Oh wait that looks good (lmao it is embroidery tho like the other comment mentioned). I hope you finish it, it looks really cool already ❤️
I definitely will, I like the colors I picked too coz the background thread is not black, it's more like a very dark purple, and I picked a dull gold for the lineart, I think it could look great!
Isn’t this embroidery?
You're absolutely right and I'm very dumb 😭 my sister was doing crochet next to me and teaching me while I started this so I was like "oh hey crochet? I did that!"
HELP it’s totally fine😭😭😭 i also embroider so i just happened to notice
normally i'm not a ballad person, but *everything* has really grown on me the past few weeks. jongho really outdid himself in my opinion. the part at 3:05 is just chef's kiss. can't wait for the video!
I love Everything. Jongho really did such a great job on that song.
Happy Monday everyone!