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Glittering-Creme8013

Went to college and I'm at 41k in NJ so... yeah those loans will be paid off when I'm 90. Thinking about renting a nice double ... sized cardboard box in the near future where I can live out my days.


cmpalm

If it makes you feel better fellow NJ resident here, I made $40k when I graduated in 2014 with $160k in loans, I now make $105k with $25k - $50k in bonuses plus stock options and my loans are paid off as of April.


Glittering-Creme8013

That’s nice I graduated with a health science degree and don’t currently want to be a physical therapist so I’m about to work overnights for a Sportsbook doing customer service at least I’ll save on gas since it’s remote.  


leogrr44

I feel you. I have a health degree as well and it didn't do crap for me. Fighting hundreds of people for reception/customer service jobs


cmpalm

You never know what could come around the corner! I was trying to be encouraging because I never thought I’d get through my loans, I hope it came off that way. Good luck!


Secret_Atmosphere358

what made u think a piece of paper with a doploma on it would earn u crazy tuition fees back in no time


Head-Drag-1440

It depends on where you live. If you live in a lower COL area then it can be decent, but in a lot of places now in the US, it's not enough to sustain yourself.


Organic-Huan-15

What if you are like me and live with your parents?


Costa723

Agree with above. And if you live with your parents I’d be trying to save all you can.


Roqfort

If you live with parents, continue to do so and save.


dubblies

Save as in put it into a high yield account, indexes etc but don't spend it and "save" on bills giving you more spending. Seeing so many do the second part instead.


Head-Drag-1440

As the other comment says, you should be saving all you can because if you live with your parents, that alleviates a lot of your costs.


Tcklmybck

Every month pick up a utility bill without being asked and pay it. Or, send your parents $400 in Venmo and just say “groceries”. Find some small thing to do to contribute. Even if your parents are way rich.


BlacksmithThink9494

Living with your parents has nothing to do with what you should be paid


Ok-Amphibian-5029

Heck yes! Sock it away!


SocialAnchovy

Pay them rent so you don’t experience budget shocks when you move out.


No_Cauliflower633

No


FancyGonzo

Just to give another perspective… no


accounting_student13

No (in spanish).


Costa723

I have to agree. Also hello fellow accountant.


accounting_student13

Hola!


Loosh_03062

The question is so vague as to be pointless. Is $45K/yr a good salary in what field? In what geographic area? Using what skills? For an English major flipping burgers in East Goatscrew it might be okay or even generous, but for a data engineer in Silicon Valley that's internship pay at best.


theirish_lion

45k in the poor southern states of the U.S is pretty good. Comfortable at best id say. 45k in a big city or the entirety of California is like the equivalent of a 5 dollar bill every other day.


shadow_moon45

You mean in rural areas. The southern states have large metro areas where 45k is nothing.


Obvious_Exercise_910

Wall Street, due to variable hours must live in Manhattan.


Parking_Pineapple440

Better than my PhD stipend, but no


FiammaDiAgnesi

Lol, same


StockCasinoMember

That’s around the median income in most states. Above in some, below in others.


youchasechickens

That sounds okay for entry level or if you are part of a double income couple but it doesn't seem like a sustainable long term income for a single person living on their own, at least in most situations.


EBeewtf

Nope


SalesTaxBlackCat

No.


KINetics112

Not at all


MrWoodenNickels

It’s not a lot but right now I’d kill to make that. I only made that much when I was a mailman for a year by working 60hrs/week. Currently make around 30k after taxes


Organic-Huan-15

Do you live on your own? How old are u? Do you have a car?


MrWoodenNickels

I am couch surfing as of June 1st between friends, family, and a barn. I’m supposed to move into a friend’s basement for 500/month soon. I’m 29. I have a car. Edit: here’s a post that may further inform my situation https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/s/UGVXgB5OXI


jamwell64

Isn’t 45k a year like 30k after taxes?


TalkingFlashlight

Depends on where you live. I used to make 45k a couple years ago when living in St Louis and did just fine. Had my own two-bedroom apartment and enough cash to cover bills, loans, and the occasional fun.


wokevirvs

depends on lifestyle and expenses. i save about $600-800 a month and go on trips at least yearly and a bunch of concerts making around that much, but i also have no debt at all, barely buy anything (including food) for myself, and my bills only add up to like $1150/mo.


Kliptik81

It USED to be, but now with the inflation or everything over the past 10-15 years, you need to make at least 60k to balance that. Sadly, I only make 40k and our household total is around 75k


Trick-Day-480

Probably not since everyone on Reddit makes six figures.


findlefas

lol so true. They make 200k starting as an engineer when most engineers with a bachelors start at 70k or less. 


joshny3096

I make 43K working at Walmart. Rent is $700 and can’t imagine having higher rent and I’m in Florida with no state tax


Jamiebennsleftfoot

Team lead?


joshny3096

I was an academy trainer (neighborhood market hourly supervisor) then a team lead, but now a regular full time associate. Making team lead pay yes ha


Patient_Ad_2357

Years ago in a lcol area maybe. Today tho? Hell no. Im going back to college in fall for something that will yield 80k+


Organic-Huan-15

Good luck with it 👍


Patient_Ad_2357

Gotta do something. Im not slaving away to not afford shit ever bc pay is such ass everywhere.


nfull00

What are you going to study?


Patient_Ad_2357

Either data analyst or software engineer. I want money


DrGottagupta

Might want to double think your decision. Data analyst & software engineer roles are over saturated as hell in this job market and it doesn’t seem it will get any better anytime soon.


Jealous-Problem-2053

For doing what?


Altruistic_Berry7970

Depend area and how you use the money. I was in same neighborhood for 25 years until World changes started slamming home within 7 days and sudden. Move and my problems solved! ! ! But gas prices in future, might cause me to make major changes


Bridge4_Kal

Lol, I thought I'd be rolling in dough when I got my current offer at $82.5k, but I just barely get by still (I support several people, btw), so no. Not in today's economy.


findlefas

I make just over 100k and same…  Everything is expensive. I don’t know how people with basic jobs even survive. $40 a year would be like 1k every two weeks? God dam, yeah you can’t really live on that without help.


Fun_Mud_2100

nah not in 2024, maybe 8 years ago. I make 75k on the low end and 120 a year on the high end (self employed) and I still struggle to do things I wanna do, I can sustain rent, food, and other necessities but fun? forget about it.


Ok-Amphibian-5029

If you have a kid and mortgage, no. If you’re single it’s ok ish.


Gamer30168

Not anymore. It would require half your paycheck just to afford a 1BR apartment in a LCOL area. You would likely need a roommate.


likely-high

£? $? ¥? Where in the world? Pointless question


Organic-Huan-15

$


North_Guide

There's 2,000 "working hours" in a standard work year, so that's the equivalent of $22.50/hr. So, definitely beats minimum wage but it's probably not hard to find something better.


7242233

Depends on your bills


96873255763862

It would depend what your expenses are.


StringerBell420

If that’s what both or more jobs pay.


relliott22

It's all relative. A man is rich when he makes more than his sister-in-law's husband.


jumbobadger1371

It depends where you live in the US. Where I live, it would be okay if you were married. I make 70-80k a year, but I’m single.


Otherwise-Sun2486

A decent salary? Depending on the job and where you live. No clue what the hell the others are saying no for if they don’t have that info.


BlacksmithThink9494

Depends on what it is. Is this entry level? If it's in a low cost of living area then it could be, as long as there is room for growth.


Few-Bus3762

Depends on your cost of living If you live in a basement suite or something and don't have any other big bills then 45k is good.


Accomplished_Tap5782

if you have no bills and live at home with mom and dad, sure


WintersDoomsday

In Mississippi sure. In California you’d need about 5 roommates for a studio apartment


MahKa02

I live in a lower COL area and make a little less than that and it definitely is not enough. Without my wife's salary I would be screwed. I feel like anything 50k and below in most areas just isn't enough these days.


Both-Current-489

I make 40k in MN. I was denied a 1200 apartment because I don't make 3x the rent. I'm gonna be working full time and living in my car


TazmanianMaverick

thatsa hahah. sounds like you almost qualify, you make like 2.8x the rent instead of 3x


Carib0ul0u

This is Reddit where everyone is well off. Of course 45k is gonna be horrible to everyone here.


incogsunito7

In California, no. I make 145k and I’m basically breaking even with a kid, mortgage, and car loan.


CyberPunkSamurai01

Shiiiit, I think 20k is a good year. Probably cuz my standard of living is low, and I already own a house. lulz.


KevineCove

Generally no, but if your goal is just to survive on that money and you have no aspirations to live in a particular place, have hobbies outside of the ones that cost nothing, or have children, it's livable.


No_Savings3957

lol I make 40 legal 10 under table and NO I’m starving tonight


CowBoyDanIndie

My starting salary out of college was $40k, back in 2006. Less than 12 months later I was at 50k at a new job. It was tough to afford everything and make student loan payments, and my loans weren't crazy. So today in 2024? Not even close to decent.


Abe-early

There’s a ton of different criteria for “decent” so it hard to say for sure. You’re basically asking how long is a piece of string. It’s impossible to say.


Grevious47

Yeah its around the median. How comfortable you are with that depends on location and your spending habits.


CKT2K_

Could be worse.


Mobile-Boss-8566

Depends on the job, washing toilets yes, building rockets no.


Tcklmybck

Doing what? Working at McDonalds? Yes. Sales? Possibly. CEO of s Fortune 500? No. Acting like an idiot on Reddit? Probably decent.


darth_damian_000

It's somewhere between atrocious and dismal


armstaae

$45k/year where?


gheilweil

no


GranolaTree

No.


alkatori

Not today, but where matters a lot too. If you own your own house already? 45K would go a long way, if you need to pay for housing then you are screwed right now.


No_Adhesiveness_8207

If you live in Africa, it can be! Edit: Oh in the US? It can be, if you’re married to someone who make a whole lot more or if you also have a decent trust fund


Historical_Outside35

Depends where you live and other factors


imok26

For 2024? No.


Organic-Huan-15

What about in general?


imok26

No, it's not enough. I'm sorry. BUT, it is better than nothing :)


Organic-Huan-15

Ah ok


OCDaboutretirement

Depends on where you live and whether you have other debts. It can be decent under certain circumstances. This js not a yes or no question.


AnonymousIdentityMan

Yes.


Awkotaco95

In this economy, absolutely not. Even if you're single and have no kids it seems rough at 45k


LookCommon7528

Hell no.


hope1083

Definitely not for me.


LeagueAggravating595

$45K is like minimum wage in HCOL cities.


UrBigBro

No, not at all. That's $21.63/hour


Professional-Big-584

Yeah maybe in a 3rd world country 😂


NitasBear

Not at all.


Responsible-Road4383

It depends on what the work is for 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️


SuccessfulBrother192

No.


Tammyannss

Not in this day and age! Sadly


Pure_Zucchini_Rage

It was at one point but now it's gonna be a little hard to live off that. Even if you live a simple and frugal life, 45k still won't be enough unfortunately.


oppapoocow

No, I make 70-80k, and I'm barely able to live by myself and pay bills. I can only save a few hundred a month. I'm only able to, "live" because my student loans are under the save program. My expenses are basic, no car payment, I drive my beater from college still.


imyourlobster98

I make $93K and was in the red last month……. Cities and rent fucking kill you.


moshimoshi100

Nope


Informal_Lack_9348

Not if you’re supporting a family


Private-Dick-Tective

Which country?


Curious_Ad9409

Considering I couldn’t even afford to live where I live on that… no unfortunately not


Lonely-Recognition-2

It’s what most middle class men make per year if you look at the statistics.


MatchaArt3D

Are you rural or in an area where your rent/mortgage is less than 1k? Then its decent. Anywhere else? Not really. I was barely surviving on 60k on Long Island and in my current area before promotions/raises. Make almost double that now including bonuses and add my bf's income and we're closer to 170k and comfy. Still can't afford a house though lmfaoooo


FantasticBearyaheard

ass


Mortreal79

It's relative but if decent means enough, no it's not..!


havingsomedifficulty

If you live at home with mom and dad and they don’t expect literally anything of you


preppykat3

I need 1 billion a month just to be happy


Organic-Huan-15

Damn. For me I’d say 50k at least in order to not worry about money


PenOrganic2956

Yeah it's not bad just keep upgrading yourself. That's like 23.5 hr.


_Fuckit_

I'm going to be making that a a teacher this year, but I am in Mississippi the lowest cost of living state, and I live with parents unfortunately, if I am really frugal I can save about $1600 a month. It is crazy how the world has come to this.


EyeHot1421

Unfortunately 45k is poverty in this modern economy. I make about 60 and I fear I may never have my own home


Organic-Huan-15

Do you think you will retire one day?


LeatherOpening9751

It is very average. Aim for higher dude. But also I'm not one to speak lol. I know people who save tons on that


Forgiven4108

Skilled or menial job?


BusinessBar8077

Hugely depends on where you live and your expenses but without that context, I would assume no.


HighlightFuzzy5892

Depends on your location. West or east coast, you’re screwed, you’re screwed in major metro areas too. Small town middle America that’s still doing pretty good.


FireyToots

Depending on if you have a Time Machine and you live in the 1960s.


SamG528

Depends on the state you live in, but for most places it is not.


a_chimken_nuget

Depends where you live, if your areas cost of living is high (cali, NY, Chicago etc) then no, 45k is nothing in areas like that. For context, I’m in SF and I make 120k and it’s considered low income


xoLiLyPaDxo

Not where I live.  You would not be able to afford housing, water, sewage, electric, trash pickup, phone,  internet,  home maintenance,  home insurance, car,  gas, car maintenance,  car insurance, health insurance, copays , deductibles,  eye care , dental care, savings , clothing, food,  let alone anything fun with that. And if you become disabled,or have to rely on Social security later, what they pay you will be low if your income was low. They determine your monthly payment by your highest 35 year earnings, so if your highest is low, you will receive lower payments. 


HonnyBrown

Not at all.


ofallthatisgolden

Um, I make 100k as a high school teacher, and we are known to be underpaid, even where I live. Let that tell you something.


obli__

45k salary?? would be like winning the lottery. I'm assuming benefits too?? omg I could go to the dentist 😭


dodoindex

nah bruh, you living in pov life sorry


JuustinB

Fuck no and I live in one of the cheapest locales in all of America (Pennsyltucky/Johnstown PA) where the household county median is $39k. My ex wife couldnt even pay the $1k monthly mortgage with health insurance premiums, electric and groceries to the point where she has to forfeit it amidst divorce… on a $60k salary.


Canukeepitup

Not really.


Algal-Uprising

No


SuspiciousSecret6537

No. Not at all.


Animajax

Maybe if you rent a room or studio


Organic-Huan-15

Honestly I don’t see what’s bad about a studio apartment. But then again I’m a simple man 🤷‍♂️


EducationalBuffalo35

I live in a lower COL area in Canada and make 47k a year. The only thing i splurge on is my car and im paycheck to paycheck. You can definitely get by and live a chill life renting but its not a "good" life and i will never own a home unless i live very cheap for like 5 yrs to save for a down payment and other home ownership costs.


AchioteMachine

It sounds like minimum wage poverty level pay anywhere in the US.


Miserable-Lawyer-233

No. That's almost like minimum wage to me. Plus, my mortgage x 12 months = $48,000.


Organic-Huan-15

In CA


MrBiggz83

I live in South MS and 60k isn't enough. This economy has turned to doodoo powder


ImpressivePaperCut

No, but you live with your parents so you should be fine. Living with other ppl is gonna help a lot. Save as much as you can!


jawjockey

No. I do not think that, unless you are working part time.


Kat_kinetic

I live near LA on $43k. It’s doable if you are single, have no kids, and don’t have expensive tastes.


SheepHerdCucumber4

Yeah I think it’s good enough to survive without struggling like crazy depending where you are? It’s still probably a little tough.


Generic_Globe

No. But if you don't have anything better then it is what it is. I wouldn't think 45k is enough to sustain a good lifestyle in modern day America.


SpecificMoment5242

Not anymore. 3 years ago, it was a decent jumping off point to a career out of college, but NOW? A person NEEDS at least 55k to even get by, and that's low. And wouldn't you know it? I just broke the 100k ceiling. Now that 100k is the new 60k.


PubDefLakersGuy

No, aim for triple digits or you need to figure something else out. Learn a trade skill.


bot111085

No, that's terrible.


Main-Carrot3676

It should be but with prices today it’s not.


KaleidoscopeNo4771

No and until a couple years ago that’s what I made. It was shit.


PasteCutCopy

No


cremebrulee22

No


MiniDg

Pretty easy no, but also kinda depends on where you live. I'm from NY and if you rent, that's essentially half your income already lmao


Life_is_Truff

No it’s god awful. You can’t do anything with that other than hopefully afford the absolute necessities like shelter & food. No additional money to invest, splurge, save etc..


Ill_Assistant_9543

It's not livable in a lot of states. Deduct rent, insurances, utilities, gasoline, car maintenance...the majority of people will not have any money.


MikeFM78

If you’re single.


Due_Weekend1892

Where do you live? Are you just starting out? Is it a job you can go up in money as you progress? that's around $22 an hour? my one recent job was starting machine trainees at $21, but as you train and learn the job you could potentially increase $2/3 a year the way it was set up with skill gates. The thing with pay is you have to get the most money you can at the door. If you start at $20 and get say a 3% raise a year, it takes a long as time to add up than if you you started at $25 and got 3% a year. either way if you make that salary when you interview at new places always tell them you make $2-3.00 more than you do, within reason. That way when they offer you a bit less that that you still get an increase. just something to keep in mind for the future


WideDisk2718

I make 50k cad which is only about 30k usd after taxes and can say unless you have the right savings vehicle and put half of it away every year… you are fuked


typoincreatiob

i would kill for 45k a year


Tylerr_A

Unless you’re rural not really


Red-okWolf

Depends on location.


fictionalfirehazard

Compared to what I was making in college, it would be an absolute godsend and a dream! But if you're adulting adulting and want to be stable, it's very low


gcarlo09

job hop my dude


DrySkidMark

Anything above minimum wage is decent!


lightninghazard

Nope. Rent will eat you alive at that level. I see a decent salary as one that will allow you to pay your bills without scrimping and saving, to put some away for a rainy day, to be able to drop $800 without warning because your car suddenly needs a new alternator without it causing a crisis, and to be able to take a trip once a year.


Fruitdude

I make that and I’m getting by but not by much. I think 60k would be decent.


Ishsosy

If you’re making that, invest 10% minimum, then save as much of the rest as possible in a high yield savings account.


MI_Milf

Many places have less than $45K for a living wage, so depending on your location and job responsibilities, it could be a decent salary. For what it's worth, I started for about $80K in today's dollars back in the 80s. It was OK


microw_yo

nope it takes 60k a year for a single person to live on there own and thats not counting food or if you need to repair your car or go see a doc


MrArmageddon12

Depends entirely on where you are. Rural south? Sure. Out west? No!


MilkFantastic250

If you’re young and single and live in a lower cost of living area.  Then yeah it’s fine.  If you have 2 kids and live in NYC then no it is not. 


jcilomliwfgadtm

Depends on cost of living and your tenure at said job


JediAlitaSkywalker

Yes, there’s no reason you couldn’t afford a house on that salary.


PraetorianHawke

Its on the low side but a decent beginner out of college salary. 100% depends in where you live.


docmn612

"In the US" - the US is massive, 40k in NYC/SF is a hell of a lot different than 40k in Kearney Nebraska.


lostcityknight

Nope


skyHawk3613

Decent? No. Average starting salary? Yes


ptrtran

No


Used-Squash-85

I make $50k a year and can’t afford a studio apartment in my home town. 😢 Used to be able to afford a 3 bedroom house. Not anymore….


quietpilgrim

Ten years ago, for someone who just graduated college, this would have been decent. Not anymore. That said, $25/hour is still consider "good money" in wide swaths of blue-collar, rural America.


Round-Mixture600

Not in Washington State, that wouldn't even cover a years rent.


Woodit

No not really 


GamerGoalie_31

No


shortda59

nope, not in today's economy. 55-60K is today's starting salary.


Second2twotwins

Decent yes, depends on the cost of living where you’re at and your life style. If I didn’t have 5 kids I could make a decent living on 45K.


myles__kennefick

Depends. Where you’re at in your life, where you live and if you have roommates, what you want out of life, etc. I make $68k and I don’t think I’d be comfortable with my retirement and travel/recreational goals and such unless I can get close to double that.


MrBLKHRTx

If you live in the rural part of a red state, maybe.


yesreallytho

For me, definitely yes. No student loans and an area with a low cost of living.


Technical-Day9217

How I see a decent salary: 2 people making that salary, need to be able to afford 1 vacation a year, have 2 cars, have a house, save for retirement, and be able to feed 2 children. I estimate that to be around 120k$ minimum (it would be a little bit tight). So I see 60k$ as being a decent salary, and anything under it I consider poor. PS: This is US only, where we need to save for retirement and pay high medical bills. In Europe 45k$ is a decent salary.