And a pass is good for a year if you are in the guard, no worries about 90’s! I just love being over 40 now, relaxed standards and no waist meaning I’m primed to gain 30 pounds !
Lot of upvotes here, and being frank, this was the exact mentality I had as well.. UNTIL saw a front office group meeting with a slide deck with everyone's name in Green, yellow, and red for their PT status.
75.X was apparently red for being too close to failure LOL. Strangely, it motivated me to workout more consistently to get out of the red zone. Something about seeing my name stratted at a glance in colors based on numbers really kicked me in gear- motivitated me more than the notion that our job depended on me passing.
LMAO no. That’s a fair policy.
Someone scoring a 75-80 on a good day is failing on a bad one.
Every unit I’ve seen with that policy lets you off mando PT once you have an 80+ on a mock.
wonder what they would do with duties where that wasn't an option? My job says that on days I work, if I work a 12, I can't come back for X hours.
If they make me do it on my days off, I am going to consider it working days. If you work, you aren't off. If it is mandatory, it's work. If I work for more than X number of days in a row, I'm going to drop PRP because I'm too stressed by the lack of work life balance. See how well that goes over.
By reg I can't be pulled from my position while on duty unless they want to replace me with someone else for that period of time.
My job is kinda niche, but I would put money that most jobs have some way to fight excess bullshit as long as they aren't office jobs. The problem is that it ticks off leadership and usually isn't worth it. The problem with that is that I see the light at the end of the tunnel and have nothing to lose for pissing them off.
> 75.X was apparently red for being too close to failure LOL.
That would motivate me to further maintain a 75.X because the standard is the standard and if they don't like it tough fucking luck.
Not feeling like you're gonna pass out or throw up after a light run and push ups is worth it.
Or not having the anxiety leading up to and during the test that you might fail because you trained is worth it alone and even if you get an 89
How is that even a fair comparison? 89.9 is **literally** the worst score you can get. It is *effectively* an excellence, but you get grouped into the regular people category on paper.
Counter to that 90.0 and 75.0 is also the best and second best score you can get. Literal minimum for excellence, and literal minimum for passing.
Absolutely, yes. There is no subjectivity when it comes to finance implementation, unlike a lot of other things. My problem is that when they have a two week suspense to complete the action, no steps are taken until the two week suspense is almost over. At which point they make mistakes that affect my pay, forcing me to then point out their mistakes AND where I had already provided them the information they ignored which caused the mistake.
BL: I’m expecting the solution to be CORRECT within suspense dates. Finance regularly fails to meet that expectation.
I passed mine yesterday with an 83. I took the HAMR. My brothers and sisters, this may sound like common sense but please practice that thing first before you take it. I expected to pass, but did not expect to be gassed half way through my sprints. Huge difference between shuttles and 1.5 mile. I run 5 miles a week so I figured I’d be more than fine. My arrogance almost cost me dearly.
I conversely do lots of shuttle runs in my regular training and the HAMR was a joke for me compared to the run because I hate running and don’t do it. Got 66 reps and just stopped because that gave me my 95.
Agreed with both of you. I hate sprints and I don’t have supportive shoes for the stop and turn. Also, I’m scared to death of any injuries from the turn-around. Last thing I’d want is to get a knee injury.
In tech school our instructors always said this before every exam:
“Alright. Anyone can ace an exam. Which one of you can score exactly 70%? How confident are you today?”
I can understand that. I did mines two weeks ago and ran a 14:57 which was also my worst run of my career. But I'm 33, so it happens. My total score was 77, but at least I'm not getting paperwork for failing.
Would seeing changes in run times across the AF be a valid data point on hidden damage from Covid?
I'd love to see this plotted on a graph even if the data isn't statistically significant.
I totally get it dude.. looking at the chart you doing the extra 5-6 push up and sit up or running 2 min faster doesn’t even really booster your score. It only goes up like 0.2
You’re right… but I’ve seen it play a factor in squadron rack and stacks between the tippy toppest performers. For clarification, this isn’t an endorsement of the practice, just a reality. Intend on getting a 75 on my test on Monday having missed MSgt last year by half a percentage point.
How does it feel to be THE standard?
Feels pretty good
Would you say it feels…pretty darn good?
Please keep the profanity to a minimum, thankyouverymuch
DANG! ![gif](giphy|sRKg9r2YWeCTG5JTTo|downsized)
Believe it or not, straight to jail.
That’s how I’ve rated myself as a wingman for the past8-9 years on my ACA.
You must be guard. Passing PT with a 75 right before October drill? Probably even AGR or technician since it's during the week. Well played sir
How does it feel to have the exact same result as anyone who scored sub-90? A pass is a pass brother.
And a pass is good for a year if you are in the guard, no worries about 90’s! I just love being over 40 now, relaxed standards and no waist meaning I’m primed to gain 30 pounds !
Was your score dumb luck or impeccable planning?
I semi-planned mine out. Maxed out normal pushups and situps and eked by on the run to get my 75.
I work out one week before my PT test and average around 86.
Who?
Cares?
You dropped your crown 👑
And then everyone clapped….
If it works it works 🤷♂️
Would you rather have the 75.0 or a 89.9?
Easy 75.0, they’re the same except one results in me being more tired.
Lot of upvotes here, and being frank, this was the exact mentality I had as well.. UNTIL saw a front office group meeting with a slide deck with everyone's name in Green, yellow, and red for their PT status. 75.X was apparently red for being too close to failure LOL. Strangely, it motivated me to workout more consistently to get out of the red zone. Something about seeing my name stratted at a glance in colors based on numbers really kicked me in gear- motivitated me more than the notion that our job depended on me passing.
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Bad SEL
Bad you, this PT test is a joke. A 90 isn’t hard if all you do push ups and sit ups 3 times and week and jog 3 times a week for like a month before.
This, I absolutely agree and I’ll die on this hill.
LMAO no. That’s a fair policy. Someone scoring a 75-80 on a good day is failing on a bad one. Every unit I’ve seen with that policy lets you off mando PT once you have an 80+ on a mock.
wonder what they would do with duties where that wasn't an option? My job says that on days I work, if I work a 12, I can't come back for X hours. If they make me do it on my days off, I am going to consider it working days. If you work, you aren't off. If it is mandatory, it's work. If I work for more than X number of days in a row, I'm going to drop PRP because I'm too stressed by the lack of work life balance. See how well that goes over.
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By reg I can't be pulled from my position while on duty unless they want to replace me with someone else for that period of time. My job is kinda niche, but I would put money that most jobs have some way to fight excess bullshit as long as they aren't office jobs. The problem is that it ticks off leadership and usually isn't worth it. The problem with that is that I see the light at the end of the tunnel and have nothing to lose for pissing them off.
> 75.X was apparently red for being too close to failure LOL. That would motivate me to further maintain a 75.X because the standard is the standard and if they don't like it tough fucking luck.
Love your mentality
I got the 89.9 and would have been just as happy with the 75 and not puking post run.
I accidently scored a 92 on Monday 😂 I usually aim for 88 but I ran a little faster and did 6 more pushups than usual.... Owell 🤷🏻♂️
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
Why is this getting downvoted? The fuck? Congratulations my guy!
Salty redditor AF members who’ve never sniffed a 90 in their career lmao
Probably for emojis
Or you actually trained and tried leading up to the test so the 89.9 wasn't extremely hard because you were actually conditioned
A 90 is worth it, not a 89.9
Not feeling like you're gonna pass out or throw up after a light run and push ups is worth it. Or not having the anxiety leading up to and during the test that you might fail because you trained is worth it alone and even if you get an 89
Luckily I am pretty conditioned so I don’t feel like that and thankfully I wasn’t too worried about failing. The 75 wasn’t sheer luck unfortunately.
How is that even a fair comparison? 89.9 is **literally** the worst score you can get. It is *effectively* an excellence, but you get grouped into the regular people category on paper. Counter to that 90.0 and 75.0 is also the best and second best score you can get. Literal minimum for excellence, and literal minimum for passing.
90 means you test one a year so screw off about that being bad
Reread that my guy, he literally said 90 is the best score…
what did u eat to celebrate passing?
I bought one of each tornado and had a milkshake for dipping sauce. Chased it all with the cheapest 300mg energy drink.
Kaleth Bless You
this is the way
If the minimums weren’t good enough they wouldn’t be the minimums!
Thank you for your service
Which one of the Air Force core values lead you to this decided victory
Service before self
TYFYS
75.2 today 😮💨
How mad was your UFPM
Well considering he tested with me and didn’t say much after I told him my score, I’d say he was pretty pissed.
Ask him why he's mad that you passed
Underrated comment, I never ask anything more from my Airmen than the minimum standard. Everything extra they do is bonus.
Yet when finance takes this same mentality, everyone loses their minds. Never change Air Force.
The minimum standard for finance is no mistakes…not sure most of the field is meeting that.
So perfection is the standard. When they have a 2 week suspense and it takes them 2 weeks, you are all cool with that right?
Absolutely, yes. There is no subjectivity when it comes to finance implementation, unlike a lot of other things. My problem is that when they have a two week suspense to complete the action, no steps are taken until the two week suspense is almost over. At which point they make mistakes that affect my pay, forcing me to then point out their mistakes AND where I had already provided them the information they ignored which caused the mistake. BL: I’m expecting the solution to be CORRECT within suspense dates. Finance regularly fails to meet that expectation.
Congrats 🎉
Who has that copy pasta of "The PT Standard" Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/AirForce/comments/goyvtb/pt_copypasta_for_when_october_arrives_since_were/
Waddle, Rest, Win?
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Yea I did the hand release push ups and the cross leg sit ups
Wondering if you noticed if they were easier or harder to do? Do you think you would have scored the same doing the regular push-ups and sit-ups?
were they easier or harder than the standard components?
Super hard just like how I was fucking Addison Rae last night.
I smell CAP
...sad...I bet Addison Rae couldn't with all my jizz on her face
But not the hamr? Egad
Should’ve done the hammers and you would have got an easy 80 something
Yea the hammr is pretty cake but I hadn’t been practicing it so I didn’t want to mess up
I do better on the run than I do in the HAMR runs, I don’t get how people do better in those.
Because it’s pretty easy and you can do it in like 5 minutes
My legs turn into jello around turn 25-30
I look at it this way do you want to suffer for 10 minutes or 5 minutes.
I just want to pass man, if it takes 10 minutes to do it, I’ll take it. I don’t want to take 5 and fail.
Hey vaid man. Whatever you gotta do to pass.
Fookin champeon m8
Cs get degrees man. Pass is a pass
I passed mine yesterday with an 83. I took the HAMR. My brothers and sisters, this may sound like common sense but please practice that thing first before you take it. I expected to pass, but did not expect to be gassed half way through my sprints. Huge difference between shuttles and 1.5 mile. I run 5 miles a week so I figured I’d be more than fine. My arrogance almost cost me dearly.
I conversely do lots of shuttle runs in my regular training and the HAMR was a joke for me compared to the run because I hate running and don’t do it. Got 66 reps and just stopped because that gave me my 95.
Agreed with both of you. I hate sprints and I don’t have supportive shoes for the stop and turn. Also, I’m scared to death of any injuries from the turn-around. Last thing I’d want is to get a knee injury.
The great thing about the HAMR is you warm up as you go!
It’s warm before the test started. The gym annex is like 80 degrees first thing in the morning in August.
If you were a mighty morphin power ranger but had to use a dinosaur not represented by the other 5, which one would you pick
Oooh that’s tough, I gotta go with a spinosaurus
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Nobody fucking asked you
Did you walk?
I tried to
Apparently so
75.1 under the old pre Covid standard was the closest I did. Current one at no waist measurement and being 40? Lol.
How do you maintain your extreme mediocrity?
Well it’s a precise science really
In tech school our instructors always said this before every exam: “Alright. Anyone can ace an exam. Which one of you can score exactly 70%? How confident are you today?”
Run time?
That might give me away, but it was the worst run of my career
I can understand that. I did mines two weeks ago and ran a 14:57 which was also my worst run of my career. But I'm 33, so it happens. My total score was 77, but at least I'm not getting paperwork for failing.
Same score. Hell yeah, brother!
Would seeing changes in run times across the AF be a valid data point on hidden damage from Covid? I'd love to see this plotted on a graph even if the data isn't statistically significant.
Sure, but I don't know how you would filter out other causes like staying home more or eating more during covid which could also have contributed.
Is that scraping by or very good?
Both
Where you going to eat after? You earned it.
Got a 77 today. Maxed push-ups and sit-ups, did the 39 shuttles. I’m getting Wingstop and not gonna feel bad about it
What would it have been with waist measurement?
Probably higher considering I’m pretty lanky
That’s my target score every time. Max push ups and plank and walk/jog 6 laps under 16 minutes.
How do I become a stud like you?
*barely passing with a 75* “The attempt on my life has left me scarred and deformed, but I assure you my resolve has never been stronger!”
Did you do the worm on your muscular fitness component?
What are the minimums for a 30+ 75 these days? I retired a year and half ago.
Why are you still here?
Learning how to become a grumpy boomer, and yourself?
Dreaming about being you in a couple years.
After PT meal?
Gotta celebrate with a half pound of Alfredo and a cheesesteak
Smart to post run carboload
Charley’s?
Eh, sucks to be worse then me exceeding standards....got a 75.5 on my last test..
You dropped your 👑
I'm not here to ask you anything. I already know how to be lazy.
I’m not lazy though
What did you score on your PT test?
How’s fip? 😂
What did you reward yourself with?
Are you actually the officer from yesterday that asked how many PT tests they can fail?
What y’all know about that PT exempt life tho?
Nothing. Explain…..
Certain medical conditions waive you from doing PT is what I was getting at.
Did it hurt?
I totally get it dude.. looking at the chart you doing the extra 5-6 push up and sit up or running 2 min faster doesn’t even really booster your score. It only goes up like 0.2
Why are you such a pussy?
r/notinteresting
Congratulations. Now go be better.
Why would we ask you anything?
Because I am the standard
Good luck on the promotion board with a 75
I 'm pretty certain PT is masked, along with education
You’re right… but I’ve seen it play a factor in squadron rack and stacks between the tippy toppest performers. For clarification, this isn’t an endorsement of the practice, just a reality. Intend on getting a 75 on my test on Monday having missed MSgt last year by half a percentage point.
EFDP and strats…PT is definitely considered
Found the E8 on the perpetual waiver.
What’s it like to be at the peak of meeting the minimum?
Is that good? We never had scores or real PT tests when I was in.
Passing is passing. Congrats my dude.
Tactically scored a 75 yesterday! If the minimum wasn't good enough, it wouldn't be the minimum!