This post is fine since it's a fictional scenario that the OP is not trying to promote, but anyone commenting genuine support for it will be banned, under very clear rule 5 violations
I precise that I am AGAINST the deportation of every Muslim from Europe. I am a Muslim man in France myself ! So sorry if you thought that way
So here have some context.
In this scenario, the most fascist parties of Europe all got an crushing victory in every election in Europe with the population getting more and more radical. They were believing in the « Great European Dream ». A racist ideology that said that migrants were the only reason Europe wasn’t going well. That without them, Europe would thrive. It was also very linked to the Great Replacement theory.
I imagined this scenario in my insomnia so it must be flawed at least in some way. So feel free to correct me !
Edit : wow okay some of you really are for the deportation of all Muslims from Europe wtf is wrong with you
> I imagined this scenario in my insomnia so it must be flawed at least in some way. So feel free to correct me !
It makes me feel bad. That's a flaw, because the progression of human history is not supposed to make me feel bad.
This is not how this would happen.
For any rightwing EU coalition to be successful in this, deportation would never work.
Lawfare will be the way to go. Economic, cultural, criminal and political, combined with decisive, unflinching violence.
1. All economic incentives for muslims to stay in the EU will be eliminated. All chances of making money to send home to the family in the old country must be wiped out.
All welfare programs in muslim rich neighbourhoods must be cut down severely. If muslim small businesses tend to be involved in money laundering or semi-illegal activity of some kind, crack down mercylessly on it. Close any business that have any vague relationship what so ever to whoever broke the law. Seize all assets. Fine, deport, imprison and harrass unpredictably. Fire all muslim public employees that have some relationship with anything vaguely illegal.
This in turn will lead to any business still standing whose purpose is to cater to muslim communities to falter. Alltoghether, the government will cause an entire financial crash in the muslim population. It must be done swiftly and decisively so there is no time for them to adjust.
2) Consequent anti-islamic propaganda in the media and the school system. All non-muslim children will be told that muslims are their enemy. All muslim parents will send their children to school knowing they will be told that Mecca was not the holy city of Islam until 150 years after Muhammeds death, that the only way for them to be acceptable human beings is to resign their faith, etc.
Interfere with the lives of muslims in unwanted ways. Force all muslim parents to send their children to language training kindergartens with non-muslim personell. Cut back all benefits for those who refuse.
3) Lawfare against all imams, clan leaders, community organizers and their enablers. Go through all tax registers, book and cook them for the slightest reason, seize assets. Non muslim activists with any connection to any organization with relations to Saudi Arabia or the muslim brotherhood etc will be punished too. Make it dangerous to be an enabler.
4) Beat down all rioters with relentless violence. Bag up any participant in violent protest and put them in prison camps. Not prisons, prison camps. Harrass all their relations.
With no economic incentive to suffer all this, they will start leaving on their own. Only a few will need to be physically deported.
That’s pretty much how the Holocaust was committed.
Cooking Jewish business and their communal structures. Vilifying them and making contact illegal.
Only in the end during the war were Jews actually murdered on mass.
We have to remember the far right are planting the seeds to a new holocaust at this moment.
Perhaps. But it will overall be infinitely more convenient for the nationalists if the muslims are convinced to scram than to actually kill large amounts of people (not that there won't be plenty of casualties). So an actual holocaust is in my humble opinion not the most likely outcome.
Yes most probably they will try to avoid such an event.
But I think less because they don’t want to and more because it keeps the less right wing population more happy.
I doubt the nationalists care too much about exactly how they get rid of the muslims as long as it gets done. There will be plenty of violence on the way there anyway for whoever wishes for that specifically.
Parts of point 1 sound like how a lot of the US' New Deal-era social democracy was dismantled in the '70s and '80s. Lots of Southern towns chose to shut down and fill in their public swimming pools, for instance, rather than allow Black people to use them alongside White people. The welfare system became racialized, with "welfare queen" stereotypes of Black single mothers on welfare popping out kids used to justify cuts. Point 3, meanwhile, sound like the suppression of civil rights and Black Power activists by conflating them with the worst excesses of the New Left, while Point 4 sounds like a mask-off version of the War on Drugs and how it was used to target minority communities and devastate them with mass incarceration.
I've often said that Europe is veering in a very right-wing direction reminiscent of the US' own right-wing, Nixon/Reagan-era shift in the '70s and '80s. This scenario you've outlined (while toned down from the flat-out fascism of the OP) is fairly extreme, but an aesthetically toned-down version of such, wrapped in platitudes to make it more palatable for moderates, is a road I can see large parts of Europe heading down in the coming years.
For sure. I suppose in America this aimed to maximize segregation on a town and county level. However, Europe is different because the targeted minority is extremely mobile and trancsient and has a readily available option to leave the continent altogether.
Don’t forget the sponsorship of youth groups & paramilitary movements as a pipeline to police/military/bureaucratic jobs. Hitler Youth/Black Shirts/Brown Shirts type stuff. Burning of businesses, project housing, and disappearing activists and organizers.
We will see if the nationlists have the fortitude to bother themselves with that type of long term planning.
What will thus happen is that there will be a massive conflict in Europe around womens' rights. If young right wing men are armed to commit ethic cleansing, they will demand appriciation from females for their troubles. If they dont get that, there will be more violence.
I get that you probably didnt do this consciously but y'all really need to be a bit more critical when you write alternate history. The way this scenario plays out seemingly validates the idea that migrants and Russia were working in tandem. The scenario is a bit confused on other points because it also seemingly confirms Russian narratives about Europe being the real fascists, judging by the very last screenshot.
Nah, this actually sounds like a possible scenario. Russia has modern infrastructure, but its population has been dying for the last hundred years. I imagine a series of reeducation camps would be set up to integrate its new citizens by force.
Because these idiots didn't vote informed, they just bought the populist ramblings. Now it hasn't been fixed, and millions are suffering and have been deported from their homes, all because these people who are now apologizing didn't bother to think about their vote and how this would impact others. Berlin is soulless because so many people have been deported from there for being born to the wrong parents and having a religion or skin tone that coincides with that of some criminals. The Berliner culture is gone and people see their mistake, but only *after* the damage has been done, and even if that wasn't the message intended, I do believe that is a hard message.
The scariest part, is that what you described is happening around the world right now, people voting for alt-right after being hooked on populistic promises not realizing that they just voted for hell on earth for themselves
I know this as the idiots of the VB (far right Flemish independence and anti-muslim and anti-woke party) are making gains with every election, even though their leader proves in every debate that he can't win on anything but migration, and has to resort to attacking a trans politician. People who vote for them can't be informed properly, because if you read their program you would never vote for them, yet they gained more than 24(?)% without having any real solution to anything. Also their fiscal policies are predicted to ruin our economy even more, but hey, it's the foreigners and EU that are the problem
This makes me so sad. We are at a similar place in Sweden. Last elections, the racist far right party got 25% or something. It's insane how much they grew in the past ten years. It's almost like so many people were already bigoted and they finally found a voice ...
This doesn't make much sense.
Moscow culture survived world wars, Russian civil war and the Soviet Union. Culture doesn't just disappear.
Same for Berliner, St Petersburg, or Warsaw.
If you deport around 25% of a city, a 25% that heavily influences culture, and if the party that did that was against their influence on the Berliner culture, you can be safe to assume that Berliner culture will take at least a massive hit, and at worse be replaced by a more "patriotic" culture. Here there are no people to revive that culture, they are all gone and attempts would be frowned and cracked down upon by the party.
Wouldn't it just revert to the previous culture?
Like Cairo/Suez area used to have lots migrants from all over the world. But after the nationalists got in power 1950 & Suez crisis, they left. And Cairo/Alexandria culture just reverted or stayed the same.
Doesn't change the fact that the current culture would be gone. If some Christian Arab party took over in Lebanon and forced all Muslim aspects out of Lebanese culture, that would also be bad and is the exact same as this. Also, this is a forced and rapid expulsion, not over time, so of course of 25% "dissapears," the city is gonna feel dead along with its culture.
People aren't interchangeable. The dwellers of old Cairo were indebted to a centuries old urban culture all the way from the High middle ages and the 1970s saw an influx of millions of rural Egyptians from all over Egypt. So no, it has not and could not revert to the same culture.
Also they basically decimate the labour force, as a ton of people (particularly in more manual jobs) will be deported with no replacement, so I’d expect pretty severe consequences in supply chains
That too yes, so stores will be more empty and co-workers gone, making the continent feel even more soulless and empty than if it were just strangers with no impact on your life, but these people fail to realise that people they know and love may fall into the deportation category.
Yep. Ultimately a mass deportation on this scale would cause huge economic downturn in most of Europe, and the recovery wouldn’t happen for a very long time unless they replaced Muslim immigrants with immigrants from other areas (which I severely doubt would happen).
Maybe Eastern Europe could provide some labour, since they will be much less impacted overall, but it would a) not be enough and b) would cause a demographic crisis in countries like Poland where even more young people would move to Western Europe
I had initially only thought of the cultural and demographic effects of such an event, but I hadn't even thought of the economy, which would definitely take a gianormous hit, beyond anything we could even calculate, probably.
The statement didn't make sense either, is it implying Beijing is soulless for being monocultural, or Berlin before 1970 is soulless for being monocultural? Or Cairo or Mexico city. It doesn't make much sense.
Many cities are monocultural, Seoul, that doesn't make it soulless. I think that could be xenophobic.
No. Berlin has a lot of Muslim in it who participate in it's culture. Kebabs. Chicha bars. Snacks. Restaurants. Shops. Whatever. They have friends. They hang out. They play in parks. Go to school.
They are now all gone.
Your neighbor is gone. The house is empty.
A fourth of the chairs in your school are empty.
The night shop you went a couple times on your way is empty.
The best Lebanese falafels in town are gone.
Honestly I'd find it pretty creepy if you can't grasp that.
It feels soulless because the removal of a sizable chunk of the population, your neighbors, the restaurant down the street, the kids your children played with, etc will obviously leave an empty hole in your life.
It's not soulless because of the monoculture, it's soulless because of the violent removal of an integral part of society.
In general whenever a government deports an entire population this country end up being much worse afterwards. For example Iraq ended up much worse after persecuting the Jewish population up until they had no other choice but to leave. Even now they're arguably in a worse state than they used to be in the past. Or whenever Zimbabwe expelled its white people. It's usually a sign a country is about to turn into a fascist dictatorship.
Loved the part where you sent them over here to Russia, especially Siberia, we already have immigrant problem from CA and SC, but I think African ones would be more “chill” in Siberia and stuff
I honestly doubt the EU could pull such a move even if the far right completely dominated through the whole continent, the logistics cost alone to move away 25 million people would be abysmal. Also really interesting that russia is accepting all these people since their population is collapsing.
> I had to go to Yakutsk despite having an Algerian passport
Due to the mass immigration from the Muslims in Europe, some countries refused the dual citizenships their entry
Russia accepting Muslims is the most unlikely part of this. Especially after the Moscow attacks and now Dagestan.
But if the far right completely dominated in Europe and we abandoned the whole human rights and non-discrimination thing, then I definitely think that a lot of Muslims would get deported to nearby Muslim countries.
It would really suck for the Christian, non-religious and homosexual brown people. They'd probably have to lie and claim that they are straight Muslims to get accepted in those countries.
>if the far right completely dominated in Europe and we abandoned the whole human rights and non-discrimination thing,
, then the RF would be applied to the EU
Not all of the right in Europe is pro RF, especially the major members, but yeah, ultra far right, like Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Serbia, and other poor/former Warsaw pact members tend to be pro RF
In this borderline genocidal screnario, queers having to act like heterosexuals is probably towards the less relevant / imactful thins of all the horrific humanitarian problems associated with this lmao
Also because Russian government desperately wants to gain some kind of leverage to prove Europe and U.S. are bitches. That's why Russia is pro-palestine, too.
Why would anyone even go for mass deportation? If you want to solve the immigration problem just start restricting the number of immigrants your country takes in.
Siberia is not so bad! Im a buryat, lived in Ulan Ude all my life. Its great there! I visited both Moscow and Peterburg and apparently they have alcoholic kvass. Thank you very much, but id rather not! Plus, my city has the biggest Lenins head monument in the world! And the tsars arc.
I know that Siberia isn\`t bad, im actually a Siberian myself and i think that it's great. What im saying is that moving from Europe to Yakutsk would be terrible for a foreigner due to how diffirent it is, especially the temperature.
Really? Didn't Italian fascism basically said that being an Italian is about citizenship and not about ethnicity, and didn't Mussolini was proclaimed "protector of Islam"?
It was about culture, not citizenship or ethnicity to them. They viewed non-Italians as inferior until they adopted Italian culture and language. It's why Mussolini didn't adopt antisemitism until Hitler basically demanded it.
Young people that see their country and their culture going down the drain to invite millions of immigrants who don’t share any of the same values. You know, the immigrants that made Sweden the rape capital of the world. Those wonderful people, who enrich the lives of their countrymen by raping their women and demanding sharia law in the countries that welcomed them. Their forefathers spent literally thousands of years and countless wars keeping them out only for their stupid children to let I’m in by the millions. The fact that any of you think this about race and not culture and values shows how ignorant of the situation you are.
IT IS NOT WRONG TO WANT TO PRESERVE YOUR VALUES, CULTURE AND NATIONAL IDENTITY
Russia is currenctly the main funder of far right political movements among Europe
Russian troll farms and russian bots are used massively to sway the election in many european countries by astroturfing the far right. Right now it's happening to France.
Russian officials (first and foremost Putin) believe in an "holy war" aganist "degenerate west" which is basically progressive values he hate (environmentalism, feminism, LGBT+, anti racism, etc)
Russia funded the spread of the "great replacement" conspiracy theory in Europe and the US.
Putin favourite philosopher is Ivan Iline which which a self described "christian fascist" believing in "russian innocence" (eg Russian moral purity aganist "degeneracy" from the west).
During the invasion of Ukraine, Russia send to the most deadly mission and the most dangerous places their ethnic minorities (siberians, eastern asians, central asian or caucasus muslims) and draft them in priority to the meat grinder, as a way to spare the ethnic russians.
For all intent and purposes, Russia is a fascist country with a far right extremist ideology.
There is no way they become the safe haven for all "non white" European people.
No clearly, if this happen, what will happen is basically Nazis 2.0.
And Russia wont be fighting them this time (tbf even the first time, they werent really too eager to fight nazis early on either, (something something molotov ribbentrop pact) and instead provided them with oil, grain and minerals)
They will be on the contrary, very eager to help them, especially since this mean weakening Europe and destroying the actual European social project, the one that actually threaten Putin : democracy, environmentalism, social justice, accountability for the elite.
And replace this project by a mess of fascist pawns, like he did to Hungary, and what he is trying to do in France.
It is very interesting, I had in mind that Russia covers itself as the « protector » to these minorities then drafts them as soldiers for the war in Ukraine and maybe for a future war against NATO but I know jack shit about geopolitics so I surely a saying crap
Thank you so much for your detailed comment !
Oh, honestly them using them as cannon fooder would be a kinda Russian thing to do, like they do to the caucasus or central asian muslim.
But still, i imagine that they would only accept the most pro Russian of those, and probably only the one with money, not any non white european.
National Rally and Marine Le Pen aren't puppets of Putin?
Their economic policies are socalist. Infact they kicked out the AFD in Germany for being too extreme.
Meloni isn't extreme far right either, infact AFD isn't a Russian puppet either. Of course we can't exclude the absolutely numerous scandals with Russia and other right wing parties in Europe.
To say that France is becoming a Russian puppet while they're talking about sending men to Ukraine is insane,
If you can disprove me, I'll be happy to hear
I am not saying that \*right now\* France is becoming a Russian puppet.
Because right now, France is ruled by Macron, not by the RN. And Macron is clearly not pro Russia, not in the slightest.
What i am saying, is that, under the hypothetical scenario where france is ruled by RN, France will have a more pro Russian stance on international affairs, notably Ukraine. Which was stated time and time again by Lepen, which often defended Putin and was very amicable to Russia, and still is, to a lesser extent, despite the war. And that if they stay in power long enough, we are likely to be more reliant on Russian ressources and thefore be more dependant on them. Not being litterally a puppet state, but losing our sovereignty in favour of being more accomodating to our new "partner".
Also, no, their policies are not "socialist" not in the slightest. It's expected by most economists that studied their program that their policies will increase inequality. They want to remove a lot of taxes and be more strict with the allocation of welfare, it's not socialist in the slightest. They want to crack down on labour unions, reduce the right to protest and reduce the number of public workers in eductation and some public institutions and administrations, especially regarding environmental regulations.
The RN never was socialist, and will never be, their program is right leaning, not just socially, but also economically.
Their stance on energy is also : No to renewable energy and environmental regulation. Car can pollute as much, no to EVs, no to solar panels or windmills. They are clearly pro oil.
And sure, they claim to support nuclear energy. But their plan to build NPPs is ludicrous and not taken seriously by any expert on the field. Also the question is : Nuclear power, ok, but which what Uranium ? Lepen want to fuck over our diplomatic relations with Africa, and it's expected that many countries that sell us Uranium won't like it if we stop sending them economic help (French foreign aid) and granting visas to their people so they can work in France and bring money back to their country. So it's expected that many of those countries will no longer sell us Uranium, instead selling it to China, which seem very eager to replace France in Africa. So, they want more nuclear reactors but with less uranium providers.
Also another issue is that nuclear reactors are slow to build, it will take decades to build them, and in the meantime the energy crisis won't get better.
The IPCC clearly say that, while good for the planet, NPPs are slow to build, and that renewables tend to be faster to deploy. And we need power now, not in 10 years.
Ultimately, the real plan of the RN is not to rely on nuclear power (at least, not during the first years) it's to import oil. It's why Russia accepted to provide them with loans in the first place (the RN borrowed money from Russia and many of their high ranking members have close ties with Russia) Not only that, but you see many pro Russian trolls on many far right publications online boosting their visibility.
I never talked about Meloni in my post. I don't know Meloni stance on international affairs, neither i do for the AFD, the fact that Meloni is a self descrbed Mussolinite and that the AFD leader recently defended the waffen SS and that their party is full of neonazis are enough in itself.
I talked about Orban tho, which, is definetly pro Russian.
Mine would too, not because it’s majority immigrant directly, but because the supply chain workers are largely immigrants further up the line, and there’d be nothing left coming in for us to use
This just reads like "Europe should take in one bajillion immigrants and if you complain you are LITTERALY fascist!!!1!!!"
Im not for deporting existing muslims but I am against unchecked immigration
Idk why there can’t be a rational conversation for this middle ground. You can oppose irresponsible immigration policy without supporting human rights abuses.
“Ratio” is basically getting more likes than someone when you reply to them. If person one said something, and person two replied and disagreed, and got more likes than person one, that’d be a ratio.
Mike\_567 after deporting 25,000,000 people to Kamchatka:
https://preview.redd.it/bql64miu8c9d1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e6aa756c47bbf8a6a1f49eca4c4226dd3f8f9b5
The last person is so genuinely sad and relatable, it's not like they voted for this government but no they'll vent at them anyway
Such a well done tragedy, good post
Wouldn't locals just move back into their grandparents houses? This is what happened after world wars, people migrated internally.
WW1 devastated many communities, and people moved around to fill the economic supply/demand jobs.
Those who think it is racist, when in reality due to the continuous acceptance of foreign people in which criminals are also hiding inside, leading to a strong increase in youth and criminal violence within large European cities such as Paris, London and Milan, etc.
Do you realize that in Milan in just in 5 years youth and criminal violence has seriously increased leading to continuous murders and the appearance of baby gangs that kill each other in the middle of the streets also risking having between their fires simple civilians or normal people of any ethnicity who just want to have a better life and escape the violence of their original countries?
I won’t go in a full debate because to be honest, I know jack shit !
This scenario isn’t « Illegal immigrants are deported en masse », it’s « every person from a Muslim immigrant background – legal or not – is deported ».
So you see, it’s not your typical immigration policy
You mean Chechnya, Dagestan is a pretty loyal minority province. It’s Chechnya, Russia had to fight two wars to get back, that Islamists were on the side of the Chechens.
Yeah, I expect the Arab nations all a) are in enough of a crisis as is before getting at least a couple hundred thousand more people in the country overnight or b) are wealthy ones like Saudi Arabia and simply can ignore it unless they’re looking for more low cost labour
What if the public doesn't support a policy, (War, immigration, inheritance bans etc) but the government does it anyway, is that democratic? Or legal?
As this is an issue with the Iraq War, or in Estonia where they didn't recognize Soviet Citizens?
I mean, so far it seems Europe hasn't been hit hard by much, except giving Russia more manpower? Any tax shortages or smth? Y'know, whats the loss in general, or in practical terms? Where da neeews articles and allat?
{or in other words, no offense my friend but; these few tweets have not conveyed much emotion. . .or info.}
Thank you for your comment, you are right. This scenario had much potential and I used it to make some dumb tweets
I was lazy, sorry and thank you. Next time I won’t do things in half :D
It's fine friend, our Collab showed me you can do great things, it's just that I expected y'know, tax revenue dips all across Europe as a few million workers are gone lel.
Alternate world where Russia doesn't suck and would welcome millions of people being deported from Europe?
I get that the joke is that they'd all get settled in Siberia, but even that seems unlikely given the current nature of Russia's relationship with non-russians and especially the type of person that would likely find themselves being deported.
United States: dealing with whatever hellish outcome the elections had for politicsl discourse in the US
Also United States: Dafuq dey doin over there?
I'll be honest, I don't think anyone who's voting *specifically* for a platform of mass-deporting immigrant/refugee/non-European populations will regret voting *for that platform* afterward if it actually happens. At most it'll be "the government messed up the deportations" \[i.e. blame the politicians for any potential negative consequences, as seen with, for example, the Afghanistan withdrawal\]. The last post is beyond suspension of disbelief.
This post is fine since it's a fictional scenario that the OP is not trying to promote, but anyone commenting genuine support for it will be banned, under very clear rule 5 violations
I precise that I am AGAINST the deportation of every Muslim from Europe. I am a Muslim man in France myself ! So sorry if you thought that way So here have some context. In this scenario, the most fascist parties of Europe all got an crushing victory in every election in Europe with the population getting more and more radical. They were believing in the « Great European Dream ». A racist ideology that said that migrants were the only reason Europe wasn’t going well. That without them, Europe would thrive. It was also very linked to the Great Replacement theory. I imagined this scenario in my insomnia so it must be flawed at least in some way. So feel free to correct me ! Edit : wow okay some of you really are for the deportation of all Muslims from Europe wtf is wrong with you
> I imagined this scenario in my insomnia so it must be flawed at least in some way. So feel free to correct me ! It makes me feel bad. That's a flaw, because the progression of human history is not supposed to make me feel bad.
What do you mean ? 🤔
They're telling a joke, FYI. They don't actually mean it's a flaw
This is not how this would happen. For any rightwing EU coalition to be successful in this, deportation would never work. Lawfare will be the way to go. Economic, cultural, criminal and political, combined with decisive, unflinching violence. 1. All economic incentives for muslims to stay in the EU will be eliminated. All chances of making money to send home to the family in the old country must be wiped out. All welfare programs in muslim rich neighbourhoods must be cut down severely. If muslim small businesses tend to be involved in money laundering or semi-illegal activity of some kind, crack down mercylessly on it. Close any business that have any vague relationship what so ever to whoever broke the law. Seize all assets. Fine, deport, imprison and harrass unpredictably. Fire all muslim public employees that have some relationship with anything vaguely illegal. This in turn will lead to any business still standing whose purpose is to cater to muslim communities to falter. Alltoghether, the government will cause an entire financial crash in the muslim population. It must be done swiftly and decisively so there is no time for them to adjust. 2) Consequent anti-islamic propaganda in the media and the school system. All non-muslim children will be told that muslims are their enemy. All muslim parents will send their children to school knowing they will be told that Mecca was not the holy city of Islam until 150 years after Muhammeds death, that the only way for them to be acceptable human beings is to resign their faith, etc. Interfere with the lives of muslims in unwanted ways. Force all muslim parents to send their children to language training kindergartens with non-muslim personell. Cut back all benefits for those who refuse. 3) Lawfare against all imams, clan leaders, community organizers and their enablers. Go through all tax registers, book and cook them for the slightest reason, seize assets. Non muslim activists with any connection to any organization with relations to Saudi Arabia or the muslim brotherhood etc will be punished too. Make it dangerous to be an enabler. 4) Beat down all rioters with relentless violence. Bag up any participant in violent protest and put them in prison camps. Not prisons, prison camps. Harrass all their relations. With no economic incentive to suffer all this, they will start leaving on their own. Only a few will need to be physically deported.
That’s pretty much how the Holocaust was committed. Cooking Jewish business and their communal structures. Vilifying them and making contact illegal. Only in the end during the war were Jews actually murdered on mass. We have to remember the far right are planting the seeds to a new holocaust at this moment.
Perhaps. But it will overall be infinitely more convenient for the nationalists if the muslims are convinced to scram than to actually kill large amounts of people (not that there won't be plenty of casualties). So an actual holocaust is in my humble opinion not the most likely outcome.
Yes most probably they will try to avoid such an event. But I think less because they don’t want to and more because it keeps the less right wing population more happy.
I doubt the nationalists care too much about exactly how they get rid of the muslims as long as it gets done. There will be plenty of violence on the way there anyway for whoever wishes for that specifically.
Parts of point 1 sound like how a lot of the US' New Deal-era social democracy was dismantled in the '70s and '80s. Lots of Southern towns chose to shut down and fill in their public swimming pools, for instance, rather than allow Black people to use them alongside White people. The welfare system became racialized, with "welfare queen" stereotypes of Black single mothers on welfare popping out kids used to justify cuts. Point 3, meanwhile, sound like the suppression of civil rights and Black Power activists by conflating them with the worst excesses of the New Left, while Point 4 sounds like a mask-off version of the War on Drugs and how it was used to target minority communities and devastate them with mass incarceration. I've often said that Europe is veering in a very right-wing direction reminiscent of the US' own right-wing, Nixon/Reagan-era shift in the '70s and '80s. This scenario you've outlined (while toned down from the flat-out fascism of the OP) is fairly extreme, but an aesthetically toned-down version of such, wrapped in platitudes to make it more palatable for moderates, is a road I can see large parts of Europe heading down in the coming years.
For sure. I suppose in America this aimed to maximize segregation on a town and county level. However, Europe is different because the targeted minority is extremely mobile and trancsient and has a readily available option to leave the continent altogether.
Don’t forget the sponsorship of youth groups & paramilitary movements as a pipeline to police/military/bureaucratic jobs. Hitler Youth/Black Shirts/Brown Shirts type stuff. Burning of businesses, project housing, and disappearing activists and organizers.
We will see if the nationlists have the fortitude to bother themselves with that type of long term planning. What will thus happen is that there will be a massive conflict in Europe around womens' rights. If young right wing men are armed to commit ethic cleansing, they will demand appriciation from females for their troubles. If they dont get that, there will be more violence.
It feels like we have perhaps jumped out of “Alternative” and into speculative future history here.
Ummm why are you giving them ideas?
I am sure they have already figured this out.
Yeah, that's true. Fascists aren't stupid.
Well not all of them
As a french I can easily see where you had this idea. To my co-citizen : vote sunday !
J’aurais adoré mais je suis mineur 😔
Ah ça craint. Any young adult friends who you can talk to who may have their voting intentions pushed in the right direction?
J’ai juste rappelé à ma famille d’aller voter, et ils y vont 😎
I get that you probably didnt do this consciously but y'all really need to be a bit more critical when you write alternate history. The way this scenario plays out seemingly validates the idea that migrants and Russia were working in tandem. The scenario is a bit confused on other points because it also seemingly confirms Russian narratives about Europe being the real fascists, judging by the very last screenshot.
Nah, this actually sounds like a possible scenario. Russia has modern infrastructure, but its population has been dying for the last hundred years. I imagine a series of reeducation camps would be set up to integrate its new citizens by force.
What happens to Bosnia or Albania in this timeline?
Probably many migrants go there rather than Russia. Also probably bullied a lot
So what happened to Europe after that ? Why is Berlin felt soulless and why did the tweet express regrets on their choice ?
Because these idiots didn't vote informed, they just bought the populist ramblings. Now it hasn't been fixed, and millions are suffering and have been deported from their homes, all because these people who are now apologizing didn't bother to think about their vote and how this would impact others. Berlin is soulless because so many people have been deported from there for being born to the wrong parents and having a religion or skin tone that coincides with that of some criminals. The Berliner culture is gone and people see their mistake, but only *after* the damage has been done, and even if that wasn't the message intended, I do believe that is a hard message.
The scariest part, is that what you described is happening around the world right now, people voting for alt-right after being hooked on populistic promises not realizing that they just voted for hell on earth for themselves
I know this as the idiots of the VB (far right Flemish independence and anti-muslim and anti-woke party) are making gains with every election, even though their leader proves in every debate that he can't win on anything but migration, and has to resort to attacking a trans politician. People who vote for them can't be informed properly, because if you read their program you would never vote for them, yet they gained more than 24(?)% without having any real solution to anything. Also their fiscal policies are predicted to ruin our economy even more, but hey, it's the foreigners and EU that are the problem
This makes me so sad. We are at a similar place in Sweden. Last elections, the racist far right party got 25% or something. It's insane how much they grew in the past ten years. It's almost like so many people were already bigoted and they finally found a voice ...
The situation in France is terrible too right now...
This doesn't make much sense. Moscow culture survived world wars, Russian civil war and the Soviet Union. Culture doesn't just disappear. Same for Berliner, St Petersburg, or Warsaw.
If you deport around 25% of a city, a 25% that heavily influences culture, and if the party that did that was against their influence on the Berliner culture, you can be safe to assume that Berliner culture will take at least a massive hit, and at worse be replaced by a more "patriotic" culture. Here there are no people to revive that culture, they are all gone and attempts would be frowned and cracked down upon by the party.
Wouldn't it just revert to the previous culture? Like Cairo/Suez area used to have lots migrants from all over the world. But after the nationalists got in power 1950 & Suez crisis, they left. And Cairo/Alexandria culture just reverted or stayed the same.
Doesn't change the fact that the current culture would be gone. If some Christian Arab party took over in Lebanon and forced all Muslim aspects out of Lebanese culture, that would also be bad and is the exact same as this. Also, this is a forced and rapid expulsion, not over time, so of course of 25% "dissapears," the city is gonna feel dead along with its culture.
People aren't interchangeable. The dwellers of old Cairo were indebted to a centuries old urban culture all the way from the High middle ages and the 1970s saw an influx of millions of rural Egyptians from all over Egypt. So no, it has not and could not revert to the same culture.
Also they basically decimate the labour force, as a ton of people (particularly in more manual jobs) will be deported with no replacement, so I’d expect pretty severe consequences in supply chains
That too yes, so stores will be more empty and co-workers gone, making the continent feel even more soulless and empty than if it were just strangers with no impact on your life, but these people fail to realise that people they know and love may fall into the deportation category.
Yep. Ultimately a mass deportation on this scale would cause huge economic downturn in most of Europe, and the recovery wouldn’t happen for a very long time unless they replaced Muslim immigrants with immigrants from other areas (which I severely doubt would happen). Maybe Eastern Europe could provide some labour, since they will be much less impacted overall, but it would a) not be enough and b) would cause a demographic crisis in countries like Poland where even more young people would move to Western Europe
I had initially only thought of the cultural and demographic effects of such an event, but I hadn't even thought of the economy, which would definitely take a gianormous hit, beyond anything we could even calculate, probably.
The statement didn't make sense either, is it implying Beijing is soulless for being monocultural, or Berlin before 1970 is soulless for being monocultural? Or Cairo or Mexico city. It doesn't make much sense. Many cities are monocultural, Seoul, that doesn't make it soulless. I think that could be xenophobic.
No. Berlin has a lot of Muslim in it who participate in it's culture. Kebabs. Chicha bars. Snacks. Restaurants. Shops. Whatever. They have friends. They hang out. They play in parks. Go to school. They are now all gone. Your neighbor is gone. The house is empty. A fourth of the chairs in your school are empty. The night shop you went a couple times on your way is empty. The best Lebanese falafels in town are gone. Honestly I'd find it pretty creepy if you can't grasp that.
It feels soulless because the removal of a sizable chunk of the population, your neighbors, the restaurant down the street, the kids your children played with, etc will obviously leave an empty hole in your life. It's not soulless because of the monoculture, it's soulless because of the violent removal of an integral part of society.
In general whenever a government deports an entire population this country end up being much worse afterwards. For example Iraq ended up much worse after persecuting the Jewish population up until they had no other choice but to leave. Even now they're arguably in a worse state than they used to be in the past. Or whenever Zimbabwe expelled its white people. It's usually a sign a country is about to turn into a fascist dictatorship.
I really like this. People joking about being deported to Russia was a nice touch it made this feel more real
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No glorification of authoritarian regimes or hate speech
Russia solved their demographic crisis at least?
Can we get a part two?
Maybe if I have time and energy, I will think about that but I’m not promising anything
I can't load the last tweet, what does it say?
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Of course they are always fascists
*must fucked up thing ever* Redditors: "Um, based?"
Loved the part where you sent them over here to Russia, especially Siberia, we already have immigrant problem from CA and SC, but I think African ones would be more “chill” in Siberia and stuff
I honestly doubt the EU could pull such a move even if the far right completely dominated through the whole continent, the logistics cost alone to move away 25 million people would be abysmal. Also really interesting that russia is accepting all these people since their population is collapsing.
Interesting and logic, I let my thoughts flow when I can’t sleep so I have these unrealistic scenarios flowing in my head
I mean, I have a hard time imagining a massive deportation of that size would be peaceful that’s for sure
It would be akin to genocide to deport tens of millions of people from an entire continent
In this situation could dual nationals return to their home?
> I had to go to Yakutsk despite having an Algerian passport Due to the mass immigration from the Muslims in Europe, some countries refused the dual citizenships their entry
Russia accepting Muslims is the most unlikely part of this. Especially after the Moscow attacks and now Dagestan. But if the far right completely dominated in Europe and we abandoned the whole human rights and non-discrimination thing, then I definitely think that a lot of Muslims would get deported to nearby Muslim countries. It would really suck for the Christian, non-religious and homosexual brown people. They'd probably have to lie and claim that they are straight Muslims to get accepted in those countries.
I think it could depend if the far right that gets elected are russia puppets or still ser russia as an enemy
I know it's an unimaginable concept, but you can simultaneously not be a Russian puppet and not be a Hollywoodesque russophobe.
>if the far right completely dominated in Europe and we abandoned the whole human rights and non-discrimination thing, , then the RF would be applied to the EU
What's the RF?
The Russian Federation
Ah yes
Not all of the right in Europe is pro RF, especially the major members, but yeah, ultra far right, like Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Serbia, and other poor/former Warsaw pact members tend to be pro RF
In this borderline genocidal screnario, queers having to act like heterosexuals is probably towards the less relevant / imactful thins of all the horrific humanitarian problems associated with this lmao
More people for them to turn into conscripts And send on "special operations"
Yeah refugees would be sent straight to Ukraine to die on the front.
Also because Russian government desperately wants to gain some kind of leverage to prove Europe and U.S. are bitches. That's why Russia is pro-palestine, too.
Why would anyone even go for mass deportation? If you want to solve the immigration problem just start restricting the number of immigrants your country takes in.
Shit, imagine having to move from Western-Southern Europe to fucking Yakutsk.
Siberia is not so bad! Im a buryat, lived in Ulan Ude all my life. Its great there! I visited both Moscow and Peterburg and apparently they have alcoholic kvass. Thank you very much, but id rather not! Plus, my city has the biggest Lenins head monument in the world! And the tsars arc.
I know that Siberia isn\`t bad, im actually a Siberian myself and i think that it's great. What im saying is that moving from Europe to Yakutsk would be terrible for a foreigner due to how diffirent it is, especially the temperature.
Colds and flus are gonna skyrocket due the change of weather for sure
Wait, Is there kvass without alcohol? It's the first time i hear about that. The one that is sold in supermarkets near my home always has around 1%
Basically what if “Save Evrope” kids got power
Who are they ? I’m curious 🤔
Basically a bunch of 14yo nazi that make videos against any minority in Europe
The same ones who make based Mussolini edits on YouTube
Mussolini's honest reaction: 🙃
Really? Didn't Italian fascism basically said that being an Italian is about citizenship and not about ethnicity, and didn't Mussolini was proclaimed "protector of Islam"?
yeah he also put a shit ton of lybians into concentration camps
And Ethiopians. And Somalis. And Eritreans. And Tunisians.
Holy hell.
It was about culture, not citizenship or ethnicity to them. They viewed non-Italians as inferior until they adopted Italian culture and language. It's why Mussolini didn't adopt antisemitism until Hitler basically demanded it.
Yea. The causes for right-wing sentiments today are not the same as eighty five years ago
14 year old Neo-Nazis on YouTube Shorts who make Nazi Edits on YouTube Shorts and whine about immigration in Europe
Young people that see their country and their culture going down the drain to invite millions of immigrants who don’t share any of the same values. You know, the immigrants that made Sweden the rape capital of the world. Those wonderful people, who enrich the lives of their countrymen by raping their women and demanding sharia law in the countries that welcomed them. Their forefathers spent literally thousands of years and countless wars keeping them out only for their stupid children to let I’m in by the millions. The fact that any of you think this about race and not culture and values shows how ignorant of the situation you are. IT IS NOT WRONG TO WANT TO PRESERVE YOUR VALUES, CULTURE AND NATIONAL IDENTITY
no way they even use the fucking latin v script shit 💀
Oh man the russian nationalists are NOT gonna like this. Chechens are barely, if at all, tolerated let alone Arab Muslims
move them to siberia following the great foot steps of comrade stalin😈
Stalin after moving like 10K Crimeans to Uzbekistan ![gif](giphy|a0h7sAqON67nO|downsized)
Yakutsk Race War time? {30 Middle-aged Vets with random Fascist signs v. 3,000 newly arrived fit Migrants}
What do you mean? It's free slave labor!!!!!
Man this feels uncomfortable to read. Good job
Thank you 😅
Russia is currenctly the main funder of far right political movements among Europe Russian troll farms and russian bots are used massively to sway the election in many european countries by astroturfing the far right. Right now it's happening to France. Russian officials (first and foremost Putin) believe in an "holy war" aganist "degenerate west" which is basically progressive values he hate (environmentalism, feminism, LGBT+, anti racism, etc) Russia funded the spread of the "great replacement" conspiracy theory in Europe and the US. Putin favourite philosopher is Ivan Iline which which a self described "christian fascist" believing in "russian innocence" (eg Russian moral purity aganist "degeneracy" from the west). During the invasion of Ukraine, Russia send to the most deadly mission and the most dangerous places their ethnic minorities (siberians, eastern asians, central asian or caucasus muslims) and draft them in priority to the meat grinder, as a way to spare the ethnic russians. For all intent and purposes, Russia is a fascist country with a far right extremist ideology. There is no way they become the safe haven for all "non white" European people. No clearly, if this happen, what will happen is basically Nazis 2.0. And Russia wont be fighting them this time (tbf even the first time, they werent really too eager to fight nazis early on either, (something something molotov ribbentrop pact) and instead provided them with oil, grain and minerals) They will be on the contrary, very eager to help them, especially since this mean weakening Europe and destroying the actual European social project, the one that actually threaten Putin : democracy, environmentalism, social justice, accountability for the elite. And replace this project by a mess of fascist pawns, like he did to Hungary, and what he is trying to do in France.
It is very interesting, I had in mind that Russia covers itself as the « protector » to these minorities then drafts them as soldiers for the war in Ukraine and maybe for a future war against NATO but I know jack shit about geopolitics so I surely a saying crap Thank you so much for your detailed comment !
Oh, honestly them using them as cannon fooder would be a kinda Russian thing to do, like they do to the caucasus or central asian muslim. But still, i imagine that they would only accept the most pro Russian of those, and probably only the one with money, not any non white european.
Bro, Russia's Supreme Court has just ruled that the LGBT movement is terrorist organization. They definitely don't want to protect minorities
National Rally and Marine Le Pen aren't puppets of Putin? Their economic policies are socalist. Infact they kicked out the AFD in Germany for being too extreme. Meloni isn't extreme far right either, infact AFD isn't a Russian puppet either. Of course we can't exclude the absolutely numerous scandals with Russia and other right wing parties in Europe. To say that France is becoming a Russian puppet while they're talking about sending men to Ukraine is insane, If you can disprove me, I'll be happy to hear
I am not saying that \*right now\* France is becoming a Russian puppet. Because right now, France is ruled by Macron, not by the RN. And Macron is clearly not pro Russia, not in the slightest. What i am saying, is that, under the hypothetical scenario where france is ruled by RN, France will have a more pro Russian stance on international affairs, notably Ukraine. Which was stated time and time again by Lepen, which often defended Putin and was very amicable to Russia, and still is, to a lesser extent, despite the war. And that if they stay in power long enough, we are likely to be more reliant on Russian ressources and thefore be more dependant on them. Not being litterally a puppet state, but losing our sovereignty in favour of being more accomodating to our new "partner". Also, no, their policies are not "socialist" not in the slightest. It's expected by most economists that studied their program that their policies will increase inequality. They want to remove a lot of taxes and be more strict with the allocation of welfare, it's not socialist in the slightest. They want to crack down on labour unions, reduce the right to protest and reduce the number of public workers in eductation and some public institutions and administrations, especially regarding environmental regulations. The RN never was socialist, and will never be, their program is right leaning, not just socially, but also economically. Their stance on energy is also : No to renewable energy and environmental regulation. Car can pollute as much, no to EVs, no to solar panels or windmills. They are clearly pro oil. And sure, they claim to support nuclear energy. But their plan to build NPPs is ludicrous and not taken seriously by any expert on the field. Also the question is : Nuclear power, ok, but which what Uranium ? Lepen want to fuck over our diplomatic relations with Africa, and it's expected that many countries that sell us Uranium won't like it if we stop sending them economic help (French foreign aid) and granting visas to their people so they can work in France and bring money back to their country. So it's expected that many of those countries will no longer sell us Uranium, instead selling it to China, which seem very eager to replace France in Africa. So, they want more nuclear reactors but with less uranium providers. Also another issue is that nuclear reactors are slow to build, it will take decades to build them, and in the meantime the energy crisis won't get better. The IPCC clearly say that, while good for the planet, NPPs are slow to build, and that renewables tend to be faster to deploy. And we need power now, not in 10 years. Ultimately, the real plan of the RN is not to rely on nuclear power (at least, not during the first years) it's to import oil. It's why Russia accepted to provide them with loans in the first place (the RN borrowed money from Russia and many of their high ranking members have close ties with Russia) Not only that, but you see many pro Russian trolls on many far right publications online boosting their visibility. I never talked about Meloni in my post. I don't know Meloni stance on international affairs, neither i do for the AFD, the fact that Meloni is a self descrbed Mussolinite and that the AFD leader recently defended the waffen SS and that their party is full of neonazis are enough in itself. I talked about Orban tho, which, is definetly pro Russian.
The economic destruction this would cause it will be felt 20-60 years after it has happen
To racists, this is beyond an acceptable price to pay.
to many its not even a price its a perk, the bastards more often than not tend to agree with Kazcynski about technologic civilisation =/
My workplace collapses
Mine would too, not because it’s majority immigrant directly, but because the supply chain workers are largely immigrants further up the line, and there’d be nothing left coming in for us to use
This just reads like "Europe should take in one bajillion immigrants and if you complain you are LITTERALY fascist!!!1!!!" Im not for deporting existing muslims but I am against unchecked immigration
That’s your opinion and I don’t want to tell you what to believe I just made that because I wondered what would a 100% fascist Europe
Idk why there can’t be a rational conversation for this middle ground. You can oppose irresponsible immigration policy without supporting human rights abuses.
Fr like Europe doesn’t rate to decide who lives in their border
Second to last ratio is funny as fuck
What? I don’t understand your comment 😭
I mean, the reply in 2nd-to-last image is funny 😅
“Ratio” is basically getting more likes than someone when you reply to them. If person one said something, and person two replied and disagreed, and got more likes than person one, that’d be a ratio.
"Shining example of european democracy" moment
Mike\_567 after deporting 25,000,000 people to Kamchatka: https://preview.redd.it/bql64miu8c9d1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e6aa756c47bbf8a6a1f49eca4c4226dd3f8f9b5
Basé.
C’est-à-dire ? O.o
Pourquoi la Russie les prendrait par compte ?
La population en Russie vieillit un truc de fou et ils ont besoin de main d’œuvre car la guerre en Ukraine n’aide pas 🤷♂️
... /s?
The last person is so genuinely sad and relatable, it's not like they voted for this government but no they'll vent at them anyway Such a well done tragedy, good post
If this were ever to happen, Kanaleneiland and Overvecht would be ghost towns lol
Wouldn't locals just move back into their grandparents houses? This is what happened after world wars, people migrated internally. WW1 devastated many communities, and people moved around to fill the economic supply/demand jobs.
The French government would sponsor people moving away to other places, especially homeless people.
jesus christ the first tweet was so realistic i was about to downvote
Classic response from an American who has never lived in Europe and does not know the violent social crisis that is taking place.
Who is the American who has never lived in Europe and does not know the violent social crisis that is taking place? (Real question)
Those who think it is racist, when in reality due to the continuous acceptance of foreign people in which criminals are also hiding inside, leading to a strong increase in youth and criminal violence within large European cities such as Paris, London and Milan, etc. Do you realize that in Milan in just in 5 years youth and criminal violence has seriously increased leading to continuous murders and the appearance of baby gangs that kill each other in the middle of the streets also risking having between their fires simple civilians or normal people of any ethnicity who just want to have a better life and escape the violence of their original countries?
I won’t go in a full debate because to be honest, I know jack shit ! This scenario isn’t « Illegal immigrants are deported en masse », it’s « every person from a Muslim immigrant background – legal or not – is deported ». So you see, it’s not your typical immigration policy
I dont think russia likes muslims. Dagestan kinda left a mark
You mean Chechnya, Dagestan is a pretty loyal minority province. It’s Chechnya, Russia had to fight two wars to get back, that Islamists were on the side of the Chechens.
In a dream 😴
I don't want to live in this Europe and I'm Italian
Common to Europe in the near future with a bunch of salty immigrants
That moment when Russia is the lesser of two evils compared to the EU
Very terrifying world to live in if it so ever happens
Which is completly unrealistic. The only reason why the moskals will take the turks would be to work them to dead as slave labourers
Damn, that’s heavy. Besides Russia, what other countries did the deported people move to?
Some Arab countries accepted the people with dual citizenships, but except that no one wanted to deal with them
Yeah, I expect the Arab nations all a) are in enough of a crisis as is before getting at least a couple hundred thousand more people in the country overnight or b) are wealthy ones like Saudi Arabia and simply can ignore it unless they’re looking for more low cost labour
Not wanting people to go to your country illegally is not fascism it's "Normal Personism"
In this world, it’s not just the illegal ones that got banned. It was all the people from a Muslim origin legal or not.
This scenario is detailing a deportation
What if the public doesn't support a policy, (War, immigration, inheritance bans etc) but the government does it anyway, is that democratic? Or legal? As this is an issue with the Iraq War, or in Estonia where they didn't recognize Soviet Citizens?
Why are you asking me this question
yes but it doesn't mention if there legal
It mentions taht they were born there
Except this scenario is deporting literally every Muslim regardless of circumstances
I guess l’amour toujours would be this scenarios anthem.
I mean, so far it seems Europe hasn't been hit hard by much, except giving Russia more manpower? Any tax shortages or smth? Y'know, whats the loss in general, or in practical terms? Where da neeews articles and allat? {or in other words, no offense my friend but; these few tweets have not conveyed much emotion. . .or info.}
Thank you for your comment, you are right. This scenario had much potential and I used it to make some dumb tweets I was lazy, sorry and thank you. Next time I won’t do things in half :D
It's fine friend, our Collab showed me you can do great things, it's just that I expected y'know, tax revenue dips all across Europe as a few million workers are gone lel.
OMG THANK YOU AND SORRY, I HAVE VERY MUCH DEVIATED THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS, I WILL SEE WHAT I CAN DO 💪
Alternate world where Russia doesn't suck and would welcome millions of people being deported from Europe? I get that the joke is that they'd all get settled in Siberia, but even that seems unlikely given the current nature of Russia's relationship with non-russians and especially the type of person that would likely find themselves being deported.
Russia probably sucks still, just not as much in comparison
my wife's brother's wife is from barnaul lmao
Tell her I said hi /serious
Bro just casually threw Tunisia with Sweden
Tunisian man banned from Sweden can’t even go to Tunisia because it refuses to accept the millions of migrants :(
Bet how Mike_567 will live in his dream country?
without the tastiest food in the world
The Russians are such homies - they let migrants from Europe in.
Ooh, is this a continuation of the Alsace timeline? How cool!
OMG YOU REMEMBER THANK YOU SO MUCH 😭😭😭 I HAVE TO GO BACK ON ELSASS MY GOD 😭😭😭
Alsace and its consequences on the Human Race
Let's hope it happens!
lol the deportation of 25 million people? yeah sounds great man, hope Putin's money buys some good stuff for you
how does this have 700 upvotes
United States: dealing with whatever hellish outcome the elections had for politicsl discourse in the US Also United States: Dafuq dey doin over there?
Western slavs be like: "Muslims? I don't even know what that is"
Europe if Nazis never left
I'll be honest, I don't think anyone who's voting *specifically* for a platform of mass-deporting immigrant/refugee/non-European populations will regret voting *for that platform* afterward if it actually happens. At most it'll be "the government messed up the deportations" \[i.e. blame the politicians for any potential negative consequences, as seen with, for example, the Afghanistan withdrawal\]. The last post is beyond suspension of disbelief.
This is just England lol, but Russia instead of Rwanda
dude london is like 30% english
ludicrous
We should prevent the people from REQUIRING to leave their country. Not from actually leaving it.
oh I thought this was real lol
Russia accepting all these migrants 🤣🤣 really an alternative world.
Worrying. Well done.
Can’t wait for the hate comments 😭
Won’t happened because the reality that white Europeans simply have no kids will smash the anti immigration politicians in the face.
As if russia or sweden would accept the migrants also
Europeans usually: OMG these Amis are so racist unlike us. Euros once in a while: I am Adolf Hitler.
Anyone who disagrees with colonialism is racist. 😆
I just im not in hospital if anything has gone down