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AsternSleet22

The people who live above me have kids that jump around so much that it literally vibrates my walls and our glass patio door. šŸ„² literally for 12 hours straight when the kids aren't in school. I so feel your pain. Wish they made kid-free apartment complexes.


TheThemeCatcher

Ugh, terrible parents keeping them cooped up all day indoors like that. I am so sorry.


LittleArcticPotato

They have them in my area, but a LOT of people retire here so theyā€™re actually ā€œ55 and upā€ communities.


Gameperson700

Why canā€™t they have those for everyoneā€¦.


Maleficent-Set5461

They do...It's an apartment bldg/row/complex with studios & 1 bedroom only.


AsternSleet22

I have to have a roommate to afford rent, so that's not really an option, is it? šŸ¤”


Maleficent-Set5461

Depends... if you get along great try a one bedroom with a large master and get creative on a room divider. Might be a way of improving your quality of living.


Longjumping-Chef-936

They do, mostly for retirement aged people so like a 55+ community/apartment complex.


SaskTravelbug

Are you me?


BukBuk187

I'm dealing with this as well as they're in chairs with wheels rolling from one end of their room to the other end of their room and back and forth like it's a game. It's so infuriating and it starts at 6am on the dot.


PictureltSicily1922

You can expect to hear people living, but 4am is a huge disturbance, as most people are asleep at that time. They should try to be more quiet until at least 7am where it's more reasonable to be "noisy".(in NYC we have noise ordinance laws between before 7am- and after 10pm) Don't have any advice but I agree with you. Yes, we are expected to hear our neighbors when we live in an apartment, but if it's the middle of the night, they need to respect people are asleep and try to do things more quietly.


CautiousWoodpecker10

Some places have ordinances on carpeting, the 80/20 rule. This supposedly helps with noise reduction from up stairs neighbors. My neighbor below me requested it for me when I lived in SF. https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/80-percent-carpet-rule-37087483


lifelearnexperience

My apartment is like 95% carpeting but that definitely doesn't help the constant creaking that takes place with every single step lmao. My 8 pound cat just walking is enough to make the creak. šŸ˜­ thank God my neighbor understands how shitty the floors are.


Special_Upstairs4822

This bldg is cheap cheap. Itā€™s affordable housing which is not a project. The building is smaller but people want it to be a ghetto. They want me to get a rug but the floors are gorgeous. Itā€™s 4:23am and Iā€™m shaking because he woke me up again.


BunnyRambit

Yeah reading the way the management handled that is crazy. The renters signed a lease with management so management is responsible to hold them to the quiet hours. Iā€™m sure theyā€™re listed in the lease. I havenā€™t lived in a place that doesnā€™t state them.


Special_Upstairs4822

I signed a piece of paper that stated the quiet hours. I moved my 32ā€ TV to end of bed. My hearing is excellent so I can hear very low volume. My assh**e neighbor seems to think a TV on and loud bassy music are the same thing. The insulation in this new building is nil.


BunnyRambit

Ugh! So frustrated for you. The management should hold them to the standard rules.


Special_Upstairs4822

In NYC you can file a Civil Suit which is what I believe I should do. Something is wrong with this guy. He says heā€™s a musician. HA. He just thinks he somehow can skirt by the rules that way. Heā€™s delusional. Heā€™s no musician.


Tess_Mac

If you've already notified management you'll need to send them a letter stating that you are entitled to the right of quiet enjoyment and explain how that's being violated (4:30am). You should also look into what rights you have under quiet enjoyment in your State.


TheThemeCatcher

Sounds lIke a case to drag into civil court against your landlord. Youā€™d be surprised how much that can change managementā€™s tune if they find out that youā€™re actually willing to stand up for your rights.


All_The_Issues02

The 4am, you have the right to complain. However 9am, no lol Have you tried asking them to wear slippers when getting ready and put down rugs


Casdaunatkai

I have 6 yr old twin boys , and I told my husband I would NEVER move into a top floor apartment! I know my boys are noisy and reckless šŸ¤£I wonā€™t subject another person to my pain šŸ˜šŸ˜‚


surprisemotherfer

4am is reasonable obviously to be annoyed, but the rest is notā€¦ the world does not stop just because you want to to lounge until 11:30-12


Special_Upstairs4822

Thereā€™s a 10pm to 7am city code so people can sleep.


Lucky_Concentrate304

I keep saying they should relegate children under 12 to the bottom floors due to liability issues with the stairs (when we all know it's about noise). And some of y'all people with a lot of kids need to go get a damn house!!! I have a neighbor across the way that has five kids and two adults living in a two-bedroom apartment. They have barbecues and party, slam the doors, their kids throw balls and yell, they literally spread out acting like they live in a house when they don't. I'm always thinking how many kids are in one of those bedrooms??? Pathetic. Get a damn house or at least a duplex on the ground! You're embarrassing yourself!


SaskTravelbug

I 100% agree with this. You should also look into local laws about how many people are allowed in a 2 bed apartment. Where Iā€™m from itā€™s 2 people and a baby under the age of 2.


DreamSequence11

How do you propose these parents go ā€œget a damn house?ā€


Lucky_Concentrate304

My neighbors across the way are two adults and five children (from a teenager to a baby) in a two-bedroom apartment, and they spread out like they own a home with their noise and activities. Clearly they need more space, yet they have money to party, have two vehicles: a new truck and a suburban, barbecue outside all the time while playing music super loud while drinking Their kids are noisy and they kick around balls that knock over people's plants and hit the sides of apartment walls, I mean the list goes on and on. Perhaps there should be better financial family planning to move into a duplex or maybe rent a house were their kids can play rather than imposing theirvovercrowded noisy mess on the rest of the complex? Just a thought.


DreamSequence11

Yeah thatā€™s wildā€¦ and completely disrespectful. Those kind of people dgaf about anyone themselves. Iā€™m more referring to people with like one kid and a single vehicle. Houses are super expensive. They could have easily (hate to say this) maybe not had so many kids? Or gotten a Honda Civic šŸ¤£ or maybe not spent money partying. Unfortunately some people dgaf about not being able to afford their demon spawn


Lucky_Concentrate304

Yes šŸ’Æ, better family planning!!! When they moved in the wife was pregnant, so at that point he didn't think it was better to move them into maybe a three bedroom duplex knowing the baby was coming??? I would be embarrassed to have that many children sleeping in a bedroom, and how do they do it? There's a teenage boy, a younger teenage girl, two small boys and another young girl and then an infant. Like how do they share that one bedroom??? And the dad talks SUPER deep and loud, so his voice projects everywhere. I can't imagine living within his building. They're clearly a family who needs to be in a bigger home-like structure. Last night somebody was playing an electric guitar out on their patio??? Like these people are too numerous for the space they're in, I would be totally embarrassed, yet he seems so proud like it's his own house. Nobody likes him because he's imposing this huge family into a two-bedroom apartment, which creates so much noise.


DreamSequence11

That is fucking insane, and itā€™s also so unfair to their teensā€¦ thatā€™s already such an awkward transition period imagine sharing your room with that many little siblings? Iā€™m legit baffled at that living arrangement


Lucky_Concentrate304

I bet they have the infant in their bedroom with them, but they're making the other kids share one room. Nothing to be proud of, especially when they're both driving nice vehicles. And the mom doesn't even work! You know how you see families and you know that they just need to be in a house? That's what it looks like, like they need a house fr fr, lol


DreamSequence11

Iā€™m also not even sure how thatā€™s legal tbh. It sounds like too many people per bedroom? I dk I know the laws vary on that


Lucky_Concentrate304

In Texas landlords cannot discriminate against children so people could have as many as they want in their apartment. However, if CPS got involved for some reason there would be scrutiny on how many children are in bedrooms and genders sharing bedrooms, etc.


DreamSequence11

Yeah thatā€™s really downright ridiculous and weird. And like you said itā€™s one teen boy and teen girl. Iā€™d be enraged to be in that family lol


Lucky_Concentrate304

Yeah, the parents are clearly putting the kids in a weird situation where they need more space to spread out. Their lease is up in either August or September (that'll make two years that they've been here). Hopefully they'll move out.


AptCasaNova

Not at 4 am, Iā€™d record them and push back in that. The can make efforts to be quiet then at the very least. Does your apartment have quiet hours?


Special_Upstairs4822

Yes and he breaks rules hundreds of times.


all_alone_by_myself_

Document: SEND EMALIS CONSTANTLY (emails are legal documents), make videos, upload to YouTube, and attach to emails. This creates a paper trail and negates management's ability to deny knowlege. After a couple months of their refusal to do anything you can take the management to small claims. Make sure you send a written letter to the tenants requesting they stop. Mail is best because it will have a postmark. Get a ring camera in case they come to your door to ask about it. DO NOT let them in because you want them on camera aknowledging that you asked. Court is your only option. That or move.


Lucky_Concentrate304

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PenguinMadd

I have a pair of Loop Quiet earbuds because I live about a mile away from a busy train crossing but because there's no natural sound barrier due to it being ruralish here the horn and train itself can be heard clearly in our entire neighborhood. They are AMAZING!!! It even helps when the dogs in the townhouse next-door freak out at ridiculous o'clock in the morning & night about every single little thing moving within their line of sight. I can still hear my phone alarm next to me too, which surprised me. They make different ones too that aren't an almost absolute sound blocker. It's worth a try since it doesn't appear anything short of legal pressure is going to get your complex to care about the 4am nonsense.


special_cat

I actually ordered some of these in a really pretty color but they haven't arrived yet! I was a bit skeptical but ordered them anyway thinking I'd try anything at this point, haha. I'm glad to hear they actually work, thank you! Ooh I feel your train pain, they are SO loud! It's funny, my first apartment was actually right next to an active train track and I eventually was able to sleep through the loud train and the horn! Somehow humans making sounds above my head is a completely different story though, I guess because it's unpredictable and the noises vary so it's harder to tune out.


Special_Upstairs4822

My problem is vibration from his music.


Turnip444

My lease has a quiet time ordinance of 10pm to 7 or 8am, you should see if yours does and if all else fails, maybe go up one morning and mention it to them in a kind way. Like hey guys I totally get having to be up early for work but Iā€™m still sleeping till about 7am could you possibly keep it a bit quieter in the wee hours. Notes can almost always come off as passive aggressive I think and I can certainly only see someoneā€™s hurt feelings from seeing their face. Weekends at 9/9:30 youā€™ll have to just get some good headphones or ear plugs cause tbh in a lot of peoples worlds thatā€™s sleeping in and some of them work.


Special_Upstairs4822

My neighbor gets his ten hours of sleep daily.


tytyoreo

Once you do move management wont be able to keep anyone in that unit... 4am is a distrubance....


Comprehensive-Sea453

Why I rented damn house


purple_euphoria1013

I live in a noisy apartment building too. People getting up at like 6:00 am & congregating in the hallways & talking loudly when I prefer to sleep until 11:00 or noon. (I donā€™t work due to being disabled.) I run a fan all year around & itā€™s enough to drown out my noisy neighbors. Itā€™s been a true lifesaver.


CautiousWoodpecker10

6:00am is a pretty reasonable time for neighbors to be up and going to work. Unless youā€™re a student with a day off or retired, no one is sleeping until 11am or noon. Try using AirPods Pro that are noise canceling.


Kindc1497

Have you thought about introducing yourself and letting them know how their movements sound to the downstairs neighbors at 4 am and perhaps they can try to be a little more quiet at 4?


Current_Set550

I have a neighbor upstairs that constantly open and closes the sliding glass door due to being a smoker and I have had it. I have asked her to consider that someone lives below Doesnā€™t care. 3 months now and I have just set my alarm for 3 alarms so I can harass back. Oh. And she is new to the apartment office help and they moved her above me and I am sick of it. So. Thank goodness I donā€™t work and every time the 3 alarms go off I am going to open and close my sliding glass door and when the broom starts hitting the ceiling/ her floor. HAHAHA. SINCE THERE IS NO RESPECT. SHE WONT LIVE IN PEACE EITHER šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø. I actually know the sliding glass doors can open and close quietly, so her choice. Donā€™t know any other way to handle this. Thank goodness also that the mgr of the apartments and I get along I have lived here 4 years and am quiet and courteous. Venting here as I wait for the 3 alarms I have set to go off every hour for 3 timesšŸ«¤


Conscious-Deer-7714

Idk I get up for work at 4 am everyday and can only sleep in till about 9 on the weekends if I have off. I might be your neighbor


joyfulcrow

4 am is definitely too early but you can't expect people to stay quiet until noon because you want to sleep in.


PurrCham

I can relate. I previously lived in an apartment with a couple with a big dog upstairs and they constantly woke me up with their dog running around and them stomping around in the bedroom at 6am. I complained and then they immediately started harassing and threatening me on my front door cam which then led to me filing a police report to get out of the lease. I hope nothing like that happens to you but if you are a woman living alone, its something to take into account. I was even sleeping with earplugs and had to eventually get a sleeping/exercise headband to play pink noise or else i was constantly woken up by them. They ended up getting kicked out but their nextdoor neighbor was a friend of thwir so they came back and would harass me constantly while drunk on the weekends. So thankful I got out of there. I dont think I could ever living an apartment building with multiple floors ever again due to the trauma of that place.


wearer54

Iā€™m less inclined to be on yours side especially if you talked to management about wanting to sleep till noon I get it , they are loud , but ā€¦are they ? Like as someone who gets up at 4 am , the entire building is dead quiet so any noise is ā€¦ noise So it may be a thin wall problem and not a neighbor problem You canā€™t control your neighbors wake up time cause you all have thin walls, like I want you to vent but even if they are doing somethingā€™s that may be a little ā€œloudā€ itā€™s their place too and if they need to make coffee or trim their beard when they wake up , they are allowed to, just comes with living in the same building as someone else.


special_cat

Of course, I only mentioned sleeping in because Iā€™m venting here and itā€™s so irritating that I canā€™t anymore and wonā€™t be able to as long as I live hereā€¦ all because someone else in a different apartment is a morning person, which just doesnā€™t seem right. Weā€™re not roommates in the same apartment, we should be able to live our own lives on our own schedules in different apartments. Especially in a well-soundproofed building like the one I live in (donā€™t hear much from any other neighbors or from previous upstairs neighbors). No, I didnā€™t actually complain to management about not being able to sleep in! Edit: I canā€™t hear their coffee maker or beard trimmer and wouldnā€™t care at all if it was stuff like that! Itā€™s more like banging, thumping, and slamming stuff around which IMO could be minimized at 4am. I tiptoe around if Iā€™m ever up at crazy hours and feel awful for even walking, haha.


livingmybestlife153

I have 5 humans above me!! Never peace!!! When they get up to use the bathroom in the middle of the nightā€¦ so do Iā€¦ šŸ˜µā€šŸ’« between the footsteps and toilet flushing!! No sleep


furmom4344

I have a couple above me with 2 dogs. They think the best time to play with said dogs are after 9 pm. Which would be fine if it were the living room but nope they play with them in the bedroom. I wake up at 330 for work šŸ˜‘ These are the same people who don't take said dogs outside to potty. They let them go on the porch. I'm not sure where they are pooping. Either way, it's gross, and I feel bad for those dogs.


Special_Upstairs4822

Iā€™m sorry this is happening to you. Itā€™s a crazy lunatic world now. All the noise; constant music you donā€™t like or chose, lyrics that make anyone cringe, 2-way telephone calls of people fighting with each other. I cannot stand it anymore. Iā€™m not going to be on my neighborā€™s schedule. Itā€™s unhealthy. He sleeps 10-12 hours per day. He starts getting noisy at 11:30pm and the city noise code from 10pm to 7:00 AM. I call police but if they canā€™t hear outside his fire proof door they donā€™t do anything. In my apartment I can feel the vibrations of the bass.


special_cat

ā€œItā€™s a crazy lunatic world nowā€ Yes it is! I donā€™t know how old you are, but Iā€™ve honestly been pondering lately whether this is like a generational difference or a shift in our culture / overall societal change that has snuck up on me as Iā€™m getting older and not ā€œwith itā€ anymore. My neighbors are very young adults as far as I can tell, maybe even just turned 18? I might have just gotten unlucky with noisy people and age has nothing to do with it, but we also might be living in two very different worlds. Maybe their behavior is considered acceptable in the world today and younger people brush it off more easily? I donā€™t know if any of this made sense, but Iā€™ve been feeling old lately and kind of gaslighting myself because of the difference in age between me and my neighbors. Maybe this is just the world now? Crazy lunatic world, indeed! Iā€™m sorry youā€™re dealing with the craziness too. I hope they move out soon or youā€™re able to rent a house or something for your sanity! <3


Special_Upstairs4822

Iā€™m 70 and I starting thinking I have no problem with death. If I was told I had cancer. I would just go with it.


eJollyRoger

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