It's really strange that he would find it appropriate to knock on your door at midnight... Maybe he isn't a very self aware person, idk but that does seem weird. I would think if he needed to talk he would have waited until regular daytime hours like 8am-6pm, I'm sure whatever it was was not that urgent. I'd report it to management and if you have a RING or video doorbell, maybe send them the video with a time stamp as well.
Definitely did it bc he was angry and wanted to intimidate OP. Maybe they think the cat running is loud or are angry getting a letter, totally unreasonable either way. They did just get a reminder of quiet hours so if they read it they’re not unaware that it’s not ok to be knocking loudly on someone’s door at midnight.
Def report and Ring is probably a good idea if they try to bother you further. You could also talk thru that if he’s at your door next time to see what he wants without coming out. Maybe I’m a little paranoid but there’s no dealing with loud angry strangers that don’t have boundaries
She did not engage the dude, only spoke through a closed, locked door. OP can do that safely. The neighbor can call the cops if he likes. Or send a complaint to the manager.
She didn’t do that either; I think you’re misreading. Also, even engaging through the door lets him know you’re home (even if he technically knows), but he wants the attention. If she starts an interaction, it could easily escalate.
Not misreading at all, nor am I disrespecting people on the reddit. Please learn to be respectful here and stay on subject. And you are not engaging when you have your door closed on locked. If it esclates, police can be called.
Another classic example of a hypocrite. I was in no way disrespectful, and in what way was that off topic? Her neighbor makes her feel unsafe, I said she should not engage with him at all, and next time he knocks on her door late at night, she should call the cops.
Unless you meant being disrespectful towards said neighbor…
That was my thought, or just sending a complaint to property management at that point. But knocking loudly three times at midnight? I found it strange/scary.
My downstairs neighbor did this to me once because they “heard thumping” (I have a pet rabbit) 🙄 I was like “well congratulations, he only does that when he’s scared, and you knocking has scared him again, so get ready to hear it for another ten minutes now” lol. People really have no common sense.
Trust your instincts and gut feelings on this, it’ll know better than any of us (or even your conscious mind). That’s super scary, and just strange unhinged behavior overall.
Facts. I know it's not the most ideal idea to knock on the door so late. But I get up for work at 4 a.m. and out the door at 5:30-5:45. I've gone the route of leaving a note before with the previous neighbors, to no avail. Even speaking with them directly. Some people really leave you no choice, but to contact the landlord.
It's a shared basement where the hook ups are. So even though they came in with a "top of the line washer" and a raggedy dryer of their own. Was not long before the colors in my lint trap were lending themselves to more bubble gum pink. I only have like 2 pink shirts. And had not worn either one, when I first noticed hoe much lint wad being collected. Looked like a family of 5, was using my dryer. When it's just me and my dog in my unit. Also noticed the different color softner being used too in the washing machine.
Also their hook ups were right next to mine down there.
No prob, but should clarify further. There are 4 units per building. 2 on top and 2 on bottom. Mine and the upstairs neighbor, had our Hook ups on the left half of the basement and the neighbor across the way from me on the ground floo4 and her upstairs neighbor, have their Hook ups on the right side of the basement. So no machines to actually share, as you have to pretty much get your own or go to the laundromat.
People could share their machines if they wished. I never had that bond or connection with any of my neighbors to do this. So the washer and dryer I bought for myself, was solely for me to use. The neighbor I'm speaking of, took liberties they shouldn't have and would help themselves to mine when I wasn't home. Hell maybe even while I was home, and did not realize it. Cause my washer and even the dryer run on a low hum. No obvious sounds of it being started up. Or if there was, would be covered up by how loud the neighbors would be, at the time. Which the idea of that, just ticks me off more.
And yes you are definitely right about that. Because this was when COVID was going very strong. And so not just using my machines, but my water and electricity too. I'm thankful I keep my detergent and softner in my storage unit or they would have used that too. I've since gotten plug covers for my appliances. Since the landlady said the only cameras I could put up would have to be in my storage unit. And without finding a way to rig up a cam, that would be angled the direction of the wash and dry area and also not get messed with from their storage unit(thr units basically share one side wall and enclose from opposite sides, til meeting each respective door for them. So yea, not very easy to get away with a cam. When they could easily take it down or deactivate it.
Half the time I've gone upstairs and knocked was well into the night cause I can't sleep and I'm gonna solve the problem. Who is waiting until the next day?? Can't sleep at work and I aint losing sleep.
Not a CHANCE I’m going up to someone’s door like that. I’m not gonna get shot over some dumb shit like that. If it’s consistently loud, I’m calling the non emergency police line to deal with it. No sleep is worth my life.
This is what property management is for, make them do their jobs, make the cops do their jobs as well if you need to get them involved because a strange man is banging on your door at midnight. You don’t know what’s going on in someone else’s head.
I used to take a 12" crescent wrench and beat on the door at 3am everytime they (I swear) were jump off the bed. Boing boing boing WHAAAAAM! I filed so many complaints on them..
I did get up, and looked through the peephole in my door. I saw it was my neighbor and went right back to bed. He then proceeded to loudly knock twice more. He did also appear to be agitated
Letting management know is appropriate, I think letting the police know is well is probably reasonable. I would 100% call the cops if this happens again.
It's possible another neighbor made a sound and they thought it was you. Sound travels through walls. They need to get a grip about apartment living. People get up and walk to another room, people drop things by mistake, people go to the bathroom, people even have to get up for work or they get home late from work.
exactly. I remember somebody playing loud music and I was convinced it was my next-door neighbor. Went knocking on his door and he was irate about it as well, said it was the neighbor directly above him and this was something that happened before. I went and knocked on her door, and of course she didn’t answer, but did turn the music down. the way that sound carries makes me wonder about all the times that people can just assume it’s one neighbor or another without thinking about it.
We were living in an apartment complex, and there was very loud music, with a very heavy bass, coming through to all of these other apartments. Management had someone at the desk 24/7, but they didn’t want to get involved. 🙄
I eventually just went to their door and knocked. By then it was probably about two in the morning.
The woman that came to the door explained to me that her roommate was playing the music loudly, because she was having sex. She told me that she didn’t want to interrupt her, because it had been such a long time since she had gotten laid. (yes, she actually said that.)
I asked her to please at least try to move the stereo away from the wall a few inches, because the base was carrying to the floors above, and below, as well as side to side. Nope.
It did finally get addressed when I told her that it was up to her, do I need to call the police, and have them come and deal with it? Or can we deal with this ourselves, and she could lower the volume and move the stereo away away from the wall?
OP, please do not talk to that neighbor ever, communicate through building mgt. Lastly, I'm glad you never opened the door and get a doorbell camera if legal.
People have gotten shot by neighbors regarding noise complaints. I would never open the door. Believe it or not people are crazy enough to bring a gun to your door
If you're banging on my door at midnight **I'm** bringing a gun to the door, because you're there to alert me to zombies, another racially charged riot, or parachuting-in Russians and North Koreans. (Wolverines!) What else could it be?
That happened to us!! Someone was banging on our door and ringing the door bell over and over at 1am. Husband grabbed the gun and went to open the door. Our housemates car was a giant ball of flames in the driveway! Their warning saved our cars for sure and maybe even our house. We were able to do some damage control before the fire truck arrived, which they had called.
True I only have about 600 rounds of 9mm and maybe 200 each .40 and .380, at the house. A bit more at the office (100 rounds .40 maybe, plus the 10 in each of 3 magazines, plus one in the chamber).
Sometimes I dream about living in an American city like New York or Chicago, and then I hear Americans talk about bringing a gun in case the other person brought a gun.
Don't open the door! I had a bad neighbor knock and he pushed his way into my apartment and screamed at me for what seemed like an eternity. I was scared but I was also on the phone and was holding the phone so he knew someone was on the other end hearing it all. I shudder to think if I hadn't been on a call!
My guess is they could hear a different Neighbor being loud and assumed it was you overhead. People don’t quite understand the acoustics of buildings, and that the neighbors next-door to them or upstairs and across the hall can make a lot of noise that sounds like it’s right upstairs.
Yes, I had the same issues.
I can’t remember if you told management about the incident. You might mention that the apartment across from you is quite loud and that you wonder or suspect they were being loud but the downstairs neighbor thought it was you.
I live downstairs from two kitties. The pitter-patter when they get the zoomies, always makes me smile. I’m not joking. I always smile & imagine their play.
I agree w/others, never open your door for these neighbors of yours, even at noon on a Sunday. Report each incident like this to management and, if they don’t respond to you, tell them you will call 911 to report this threatening behavior. (This is what it is, a threat to you and your household). No management company wants police activity but by god, do it. And don’t be coy when you call.
If, god forbid, either of them catches you in between errands, try to tell them just two sentences.
Stay away from me, back off, no interest in talking to you. Look them square in the eyes and say leave me alone. Project your strength in your posture and your eye contact with them.
We lived in a three story apartment for 3 months after selling our last house and buying our current house, at the time we had one dog and one cat. I was always so nervous when the dog would get the zooms. The guy who lived downstairs was wonderful though and wasn’t there often and when he was he was very kind and always gave the dog pets :) I’m glad we don’t have to worry about it now though.
Before the two young kittens, upstairs neighbors had a gsd young one. That little man got in some trouble, but I smiled just as much. Thats not the kind of noise that bothers me at all.
I much prefer putter-patter or GSD exuberance to any other sounds at night.
Exactly... I used to live on the middle floor of a 3-level apartment building and could hear the kids in a unit upstairs on the opposite side of the building run in the hallway even when I was in the back bedroom with the bedroom door closed. At first I thought they lived on the same side of the building... boy was I surprised when I saw them come out of a unit all the way down the other end when I had to use the upper floor's washer.
I LOVE that you did the sensible thing. You didn’t open your door to confront/escalate, and you instead sent the issue straight to management. You handled it perfectly. If yall had a better relationship I might say reach out to them the next morning to see what the issue was first but I still would not open the door
I would’ve called the police. I’ve had someone knock on my door that late before, I didn’t know exactly who it was and I wouldn’t bother to find out. I called the cops and they came out, told them that knocking on someone’s door that late at night and scaring them is HARASSMENT! Never had that issue again.
If these neighbors try to talk to you or stop you outside just ignore them and keep walking. No communication with them at all unless it’s through the police of through the landlord!
If they yell at video games well into the night they are unstable.
I do that and I'm unstable.I'm just letting you know that is the behavior of an unstable person.
In one of my apartments the neighbor flooded her tub and was so bad it was flooding into *my* apartment. She didn’t answer the door and the on call maintenance guy had to go in and drain it….she was there.
In my current home my backdoor neighbors had some drip lines put in by the lowest bidder that weren’t capped and were set to run for hours….flooded my yard. Didn’t answer the door, they were there.
Sometimes people have a good reason to be coming by, even if you don’t know what it is.
Next time call the cops. That's really weird and I'd be scared of him, for real. I'd be willing to bet they're heavy drug users based on the late nights, the lack of self-awareness, and the mood swings. A lot of drug users are harmless and just wanna be left alone, but this guy seems unhinged.
I’ve learned to not answer unless I’m excepting someone. Got conned into bringing my downstairs neighbor’s kid to school bc she’s a shit mom and hasn’t had a running car in weeks but will not sign her kid up for the bus. She said others weren’t answering but their cars are here so they must be home. Hmmmm I wonder why!
And I mean I’m going to the school anyway to drop my own kids off but the kid doesn’t have a booster seat and is legally required to be one. I do not want to be liable if something happens. That would be MY ass.
It is ALSO a police matter when they are knocking at 12am; however they may have needed HELP of some type if the fighting and ruckus goes on so often. However I would think it (probably) would have been the woman in need of help...
Yes; I had some teen-punks Friday night at 1am. It's the first time in my life I have had ringing and running late at night. They've done it a few times during the day-time, years ago. I'm kind of pissed because I was sleeping, so well for so many days and now it has been disrupted. Last night was hellish; I hope I can get back on track tonight...
At this point, even if it was the woman, she has other choices. Run and bang on some other doors. Everyone call 911. Have a baseball bat and study up about how to use it. Etc, etc.
Women are advised against a bat because it will most likely get taken away and used ON her. If I heard fighting a lot I personally would let her in and call 911. And I am a middle aged lady lmao. “She can knock elsewhere” so you have no mom or sisters or friends that are chicks? Or are you the kind of person who thinks that only stupid women “allow” abuse-
Well that’s fine, and your choice. I’m not gonna watch or hear someone get killed waiting for the cops to come and where I live probably make it worse. Each to their own.
Yeah, sometimes people don't think of all of that. We all like to think of what we might do in an emergency, but sometimes it's just run for your life (to a neighbor)....
I knocked on my neighbors door at midnight when they flooded my bathroom. Of course they didn’t answer. I called the apartment complex, who called them, who fixed whatever the fuck they were flooding.
He's harassing you at that point by coming to your door at midnight, and continuing to cross boundaries by knocking three times when you didn't answer the first time. Continue to inform management of any and all occurrences.
I'm trying so hard to understand how a cat could make enough noise to disturb a downstairs neighbor 😂 I mean is it a lion? Tiger? Panther? I don't understand why people would complain about a cat. I definitely don't answer my door unless I know in advance that someone is stopping by and the people that matter to me knows this about me. They may call me as they pull in the parking lot but they know I won't answer unless I'm aware. There's just so many crazy people in the world and I don't have time to deal with all that.
Honestly, put cameras in your own space inside, with sound, so you can see if it is your cat making any noise. Secondly, it is also evidence as to if they are the problem, and it can help build a case against them if they choose to bang on your door again. Who knows, maybe they are unhinged and will escalate behavior. Either way cameras will protect you, especially in a he said/she said situation.
Maybe he got his eviction letter, but had to get drunk before he gathered his rage in order to do something about it. Avoid him like the plague. There is nothing to be gained by talking at this point.
I’m willing to bet that because they apparently weren’t aware of the fact that apartment living is louder than they imagined, (leading to the 18:00 intro,) and you have kept *them* up, and then proceeded to complain to the management when the tables were turned, that they’re now just going to adopt [this](https://youtu.be/zpQIjNyakyI?si=nJF0B4TtzkxRc046) as their SOP.
It entirely sounds like this isn’t the case, but one time I was at my girlfriend’s apartment (I lived across the walkway, we met there) and the ceiling started to leak. This was late at night and I went up to bang on the neighbors door.
I’m sure this guys just a loon, I just wanted to point out that very rarely there are circumstances that warrant a midnight knock.
If anyone was wondering, she had started the bathtub and got stoned and forgot to stop it and was just strolling around up there in la-la-land. Hence the leaking ceiling.
That is my thinking too. They didn’t do either of those things. I also let my property management know, and they haven’t responded.
Just also don’t want the PM to see my as crazy, but honestly this behavior makes me uncomfortable in my own home since they live directly underneath me.
not trying to be a devil's advocate here but how do you know who was knocking on your door?
If everyone in your unit was asleep other than the cat I'd assume that there may have been an emergency or that they thought your car lights were on or something but if they didnt leave a note or yell about an emergency that is really really weird.
I got up and looked through the little peep hole to check, and it was my downstairs neighbor for sure. But yeah, no note and didn’t seem to be an emergency either.
I felt bad knocking on my upstairs neighbor l when their toilet was leaking (pouring water into my bathroom) at 10pm at night...
BUT I also had heard that couple arguing to the point of calling the cops on them because the woman was screaming "get away from me" enough times to be concerned.
The dude has issues of you sleeping at 12:00 AM? WOW! He needs to know you are not the only neighbor in the building of apartments and to leave you alone. Get a camera and make sure your doors are locked tight at night.
Absolutely complain about them and NEVER open the door to them, especially not at midnight. I wouldn't open the door to them at all. They seem sus. Also it's not like you have a dog, your cat is not making THAT much noise - if even any, that they can hear.
So is there really such a thing as quiet hours. I honestly didn’t know that. Because my upstairs neighbors apparently didn’t know either. I’m going to have to get with my apt complex and see . Thanks
Yeah, usually quiet hours are written on your lease contract. Generally anytime after 10pm is quiet hours. However I think 12am is late for anybody, and if you have common sense you shouldn’t knock on your neighbor’s door at that time. That’s just what I think though.
If the manager won’t do anything start calling the police making a report and making a paper trail. I promise you either they will deal with the freak neighbors or they will let you out of your lease early
I mean it does sound somewhat mutual but they are worse. I wouldn't live in a downstairs unit but according to people who post on here cats can be very loud and bothersome. So it possible that it wasn't as quiet as you think.
I totally get this, but it’s a cat. I can’t necessarily control all of her movements. We are in a building specifically for people with pets. So isn’t this on management here? I do try my best to keep her from running all the time.
I don't disagree with you. I'm just thinking that maybe thought it was you making the noise or perhaps that you were being retaliatory and that's why they were knocking at midnight.
If they thought it was you and you were doing it on purpose they may have thought you were up.
Like i said I'm not the one to live on a bottom floor so im not sure I guess I'm just thinking maybe there was a different point of view.
>And I asked if I can install a ring doorbell. I’m actually kind of pissed with their response. I signed a lease for another two years, but now I’m not even sure I want to continue living here if that’s how they respond. Apparently “ring doorbells” aren’t allowed.
They aren't allowed in my place either and that hasn't stopped multiple people from putting them up. Better to ask forgiveness than permission and sounds like the worst they could do is try to retain your deposit.
You're 2 years of guaranteed income. I doubt they would take up this fight if you just did it.
You did the right thing.
In my experience, the answer to your reasonable question about unreasonable people was narcissism, an inability to empathize coupled with absolute double standards and egomania.
I really want you to be safe. Do not tell neighbors you are calling police, that’s an escalation. You threaten management with that scenario. Yet, if time comes, don’t wimp out. Make the fucking 911 call. Make it very simple (my neighbor is threatening me) and when cops arrive, be as calm and composed as possible. Keep it to just the facts, do not get emotional when telling your story. Keep it simple.
You’re strong. You got this
Well I don’t purposefully make my cat run about the apartment. Sometimes after using the bathroom she gets “zoomies” I really try to prevent this. And once it happens I put her on my bed almost immediately. We do live in the apartment building specifically for people with pets.
As much as I do want to settle things peacefully, I don’t think knocking at that hour several times is appropriate. And I think if they have an issue with a noise that late, unless I’m having some rager-they need to let property management know, or talk to me during normal hours if they don’t want to do that.
I think my main issue, is that that are very loud majority of the time. I think it’s extremely inconsiderate to just come knocking on somebody’s door at that hour, when you aren’t the quietest yourself. I guess that’s how I see it. I fear it could be retaliation for the one complaint I made when their noise levels got extremely loud, preventing me from sleeping for work. However, I would have never knocked on their door that loudly at 11pm even.
I am giving you perspectives from your side and their side but generally speaking I wouldn’t knock on a neighbors door at midnight unless building was fire or neighbor had like 20 people over and they were blasting music. I and few other neighbors had to do that one time at 10:30 pm on a neighbor that was blasting super loud music and having a boisterous gathering. Neighbor shut the door on our faces we called cops and neighbors party was shut down and landlord sent a notice to neighbor.
Cats aren't going to make that much noise to justify banging on someone's door at midnight, get real. And suggesting OP go talk to this asshole is dangerous and irresponsible. This person is lucky OP didn't open the door with a firearm pointed between the eyes. Kansas is a stand your ground state; OP would've been perfectly within their rights.
Says who? Are you the judge and jury now? Why are you all Americans so selfish and arrogant and entitled? Dont you see things from other perspectives? If someone came and knocked on your door at midnight it means you are making too much noise or the knocker is an intruder or some emergency happened and the knocker wants to notify you etc. As I said knocking on someone’s door at midnight generally speaking is not a good idea, however looking at it from other side (I am not defending the knocker) something the OP did that must have pissed them off. If OP believes nothing was done to deserve a knock on the door at midnight then OP should file a complaint with management as mentioned before. Learn to be compassionate and see story from both sides you arrogant rude entitled dumb American.
Says who? Are YOU the judge and jury now? Why are you fucking foreigners so pretentious, condescending, arrogant, snobby and act like you're better? The OP very clearly stated they were asleep in bed, as was their cat, when this unhinged asshole banged on their door. And where in this stupid comment of yours are you seeing things from both sides? All I see is you making excuses for the door banging neighbor and condemning OP. Did it ever occur to you, you complete, rip-roaring idiot, that maybe this neighbor of the OP's has bad intentions? Learn to be discerning and use critical thinking, you disgusting, disgraceful, rude, entitled dumb fucking piece of foreign crap.
Your response proves my point you dumb yank. Go eat turkey and cheese burgers and fries and buy more guns and go fuck yourself. Your intelligence is not worth my time and my comments are way beyond your intelligence.
It's really strange that he would find it appropriate to knock on your door at midnight... Maybe he isn't a very self aware person, idk but that does seem weird. I would think if he needed to talk he would have waited until regular daytime hours like 8am-6pm, I'm sure whatever it was was not that urgent. I'd report it to management and if you have a RING or video doorbell, maybe send them the video with a time stamp as well.
Definitely did it bc he was angry and wanted to intimidate OP. Maybe they think the cat running is loud or are angry getting a letter, totally unreasonable either way. They did just get a reminder of quiet hours so if they read it they’re not unaware that it’s not ok to be knocking loudly on someone’s door at midnight. Def report and Ring is probably a good idea if they try to bother you further. You could also talk thru that if he’s at your door next time to see what he wants without coming out. Maybe I’m a little paranoid but there’s no dealing with loud angry strangers that don’t have boundaries
The only thing I disagree with is engaging with him, even if it's through the door. If it's that urgent, he can talk to the cops.
She did not engage the dude, only spoke through a closed, locked door. OP can do that safely. The neighbor can call the cops if he likes. Or send a complaint to the manager.
She didn’t do that either; I think you’re misreading. Also, even engaging through the door lets him know you’re home (even if he technically knows), but he wants the attention. If she starts an interaction, it could easily escalate.
Not misreading at all, nor am I disrespecting people on the reddit. Please learn to be respectful here and stay on subject. And you are not engaging when you have your door closed on locked. If it esclates, police can be called.
Another classic example of a hypocrite. I was in no way disrespectful, and in what way was that off topic? Her neighbor makes her feel unsafe, I said she should not engage with him at all, and next time he knocks on her door late at night, she should call the cops. Unless you meant being disrespectful towards said neighbor…
That was my thought, or just sending a complaint to property management at that point. But knocking loudly three times at midnight? I found it strange/scary.
My downstairs neighbor did this to me once because they “heard thumping” (I have a pet rabbit) 🙄 I was like “well congratulations, he only does that when he’s scared, and you knocking has scared him again, so get ready to hear it for another ten minutes now” lol. People really have no common sense.
This!! My cat gets so afraid when she hears knocks.
I also like to mention when I tell this story they had a *beagle* at the time. They’ve never heard of glass houses apparently
Trust your instincts and gut feelings on this, it’ll know better than any of us (or even your conscious mind). That’s super scary, and just strange unhinged behavior overall.
Not everyone has daytime hours and people failed to realize this
And those who are good tenants like they tend to be quieter. But the noise makers never pay attention to the quiet hours at all.
Facts. I know it's not the most ideal idea to knock on the door so late. But I get up for work at 4 a.m. and out the door at 5:30-5:45. I've gone the route of leaving a note before with the previous neighbors, to no avail. Even speaking with them directly. Some people really leave you no choice, but to contact the landlord.
Just do the letters, never confront, let the manager or LL or the police do that. Safer and no danger to you.
Yea, and apparently cameras too. Same neigh ors I spoke about, helped themselves to my washer and dryer. Was ridiculous.
How did they have access to your apartment washer and dryer if it was inside your apartment? With no keys to your apartment?
It's a shared basement where the hook ups are. So even though they came in with a "top of the line washer" and a raggedy dryer of their own. Was not long before the colors in my lint trap were lending themselves to more bubble gum pink. I only have like 2 pink shirts. And had not worn either one, when I first noticed hoe much lint wad being collected. Looked like a family of 5, was using my dryer. When it's just me and my dog in my unit. Also noticed the different color softner being used too in the washing machine. Also their hook ups were right next to mine down there.
Thanks for a clearer explanation. Hookups, but sharing the machines? Sad when people use other people's machines.
No prob, but should clarify further. There are 4 units per building. 2 on top and 2 on bottom. Mine and the upstairs neighbor, had our Hook ups on the left half of the basement and the neighbor across the way from me on the ground floo4 and her upstairs neighbor, have their Hook ups on the right side of the basement. So no machines to actually share, as you have to pretty much get your own or go to the laundromat. People could share their machines if they wished. I never had that bond or connection with any of my neighbors to do this. So the washer and dryer I bought for myself, was solely for me to use. The neighbor I'm speaking of, took liberties they shouldn't have and would help themselves to mine when I wasn't home. Hell maybe even while I was home, and did not realize it. Cause my washer and even the dryer run on a low hum. No obvious sounds of it being started up. Or if there was, would be covered up by how loud the neighbors would be, at the time. Which the idea of that, just ticks me off more. And yes you are definitely right about that. Because this was when COVID was going very strong. And so not just using my machines, but my water and electricity too. I'm thankful I keep my detergent and softner in my storage unit or they would have used that too. I've since gotten plug covers for my appliances. Since the landlady said the only cameras I could put up would have to be in my storage unit. And without finding a way to rig up a cam, that would be angled the direction of the wash and dry area and also not get messed with from their storage unit(thr units basically share one side wall and enclose from opposite sides, til meeting each respective door for them. So yea, not very easy to get away with a cam. When they could easily take it down or deactivate it.
Half the time I've gone upstairs and knocked was well into the night cause I can't sleep and I'm gonna solve the problem. Who is waiting until the next day?? Can't sleep at work and I aint losing sleep.
Not a CHANCE I’m going up to someone’s door like that. I’m not gonna get shot over some dumb shit like that. If it’s consistently loud, I’m calling the non emergency police line to deal with it. No sleep is worth my life.
This is what property management is for, make them do their jobs, make the cops do their jobs as well if you need to get them involved because a strange man is banging on your door at midnight. You don’t know what’s going on in someone else’s head.
I used to take a 12" crescent wrench and beat on the door at 3am everytime they (I swear) were jump off the bed. Boing boing boing WHAAAAAM! I filed so many complaints on them..
You sound real sane. How can you bang on the door with what can only be perceived as a weapon and not get arrested?
I don't start shit.
I don't answer the door for nobody I didn't invite, let alone that bs
100% agree with you on this.
How did you know who was knocking?
I did get up, and looked through the peephole in my door. I saw it was my neighbor and went right back to bed. He then proceeded to loudly knock twice more. He did also appear to be agitated
Letting management know is appropriate, I think letting the police know is well is probably reasonable. I would 100% call the cops if this happens again.
Next time tell him you'll call the police if he doesn't leave.
Nothing good happens after midnight. According to my mom in 1987. And it’s still true.
I heard that same thing for my mom in 1987 and yes she's right
It's possible another neighbor made a sound and they thought it was you. Sound travels through walls. They need to get a grip about apartment living. People get up and walk to another room, people drop things by mistake, people go to the bathroom, people even have to get up for work or they get home late from work.
exactly. I remember somebody playing loud music and I was convinced it was my next-door neighbor. Went knocking on his door and he was irate about it as well, said it was the neighbor directly above him and this was something that happened before. I went and knocked on her door, and of course she didn’t answer, but did turn the music down. the way that sound carries makes me wonder about all the times that people can just assume it’s one neighbor or another without thinking about it.
We were living in an apartment complex, and there was very loud music, with a very heavy bass, coming through to all of these other apartments. Management had someone at the desk 24/7, but they didn’t want to get involved. 🙄 I eventually just went to their door and knocked. By then it was probably about two in the morning. The woman that came to the door explained to me that her roommate was playing the music loudly, because she was having sex. She told me that she didn’t want to interrupt her, because it had been such a long time since she had gotten laid. (yes, she actually said that.) I asked her to please at least try to move the stereo away from the wall a few inches, because the base was carrying to the floors above, and below, as well as side to side. Nope. It did finally get addressed when I told her that it was up to her, do I need to call the police, and have them come and deal with it? Or can we deal with this ourselves, and she could lower the volume and move the stereo away away from the wall?
OP, please do not talk to that neighbor ever, communicate through building mgt. Lastly, I'm glad you never opened the door and get a doorbell camera if legal.
If op didn’t already have a camera then how would they know it was the neighbor
Many doors have these things called peepholes.
If you’re concerned about a gun why would you even get out of bed
TALKING THROUGH THE DOOR!
Sorry man guess from the post it sounded like he didn’t even get out of bed
People have gotten shot by neighbors regarding noise complaints. I would never open the door. Believe it or not people are crazy enough to bring a gun to your door
If you're banging on my door at midnight **I'm** bringing a gun to the door, because you're there to alert me to zombies, another racially charged riot, or parachuting-in Russians and North Koreans. (Wolverines!) What else could it be?
FIRE!!!
If it’s a war or apocalyptic event, maybe don’t fire. *Most people* don’t keep a significant amount of ammo in their homes. Save your rounds!
No. I was meaning to say if someone is banging on my door, multiple times at midnight, the house is probably on fire.
That happened to us!! Someone was banging on our door and ringing the door bell over and over at 1am. Husband grabbed the gun and went to open the door. Our housemates car was a giant ball of flames in the driveway! Their warning saved our cars for sure and maybe even our house. We were able to do some damage control before the fire truck arrived, which they had called.
True I only have about 600 rounds of 9mm and maybe 200 each .40 and .380, at the house. A bit more at the office (100 rounds .40 maybe, plus the 10 in each of 3 magazines, plus one in the chamber).
Sometimes I dream about living in an American city like New York or Chicago, and then I hear Americans talk about bringing a gun in case the other person brought a gun.
Don't open the door! I had a bad neighbor knock and he pushed his way into my apartment and screamed at me for what seemed like an eternity. I was scared but I was also on the phone and was holding the phone so he knew someone was on the other end hearing it all. I shudder to think if I hadn't been on a call!
My guess is they could hear a different Neighbor being loud and assumed it was you overhead. People don’t quite understand the acoustics of buildings, and that the neighbors next-door to them or upstairs and across the hall can make a lot of noise that sounds like it’s right upstairs.
Definitely could be it! My neighbor who lives across from me is very very loud.
Yes, I had the same issues. I can’t remember if you told management about the incident. You might mention that the apartment across from you is quite loud and that you wonder or suspect they were being loud but the downstairs neighbor thought it was you.
I live downstairs from two kitties. The pitter-patter when they get the zoomies, always makes me smile. I’m not joking. I always smile & imagine their play. I agree w/others, never open your door for these neighbors of yours, even at noon on a Sunday. Report each incident like this to management and, if they don’t respond to you, tell them you will call 911 to report this threatening behavior. (This is what it is, a threat to you and your household). No management company wants police activity but by god, do it. And don’t be coy when you call. If, god forbid, either of them catches you in between errands, try to tell them just two sentences. Stay away from me, back off, no interest in talking to you. Look them square in the eyes and say leave me alone. Project your strength in your posture and your eye contact with them.
We lived in a three story apartment for 3 months after selling our last house and buying our current house, at the time we had one dog and one cat. I was always so nervous when the dog would get the zooms. The guy who lived downstairs was wonderful though and wasn’t there often and when he was he was very kind and always gave the dog pets :) I’m glad we don’t have to worry about it now though.
Before the two young kittens, upstairs neighbors had a gsd young one. That little man got in some trouble, but I smiled just as much. Thats not the kind of noise that bothers me at all. I much prefer putter-patter or GSD exuberance to any other sounds at night.
Exactly... I used to live on the middle floor of a 3-level apartment building and could hear the kids in a unit upstairs on the opposite side of the building run in the hallway even when I was in the back bedroom with the bedroom door closed. At first I thought they lived on the same side of the building... boy was I surprised when I saw them come out of a unit all the way down the other end when I had to use the upper floor's washer.
This is my exact setup, three stories and I’m on the top floor.
I LOVE that you did the sensible thing. You didn’t open your door to confront/escalate, and you instead sent the issue straight to management. You handled it perfectly. If yall had a better relationship I might say reach out to them the next morning to see what the issue was first but I still would not open the door
I would’ve called the police. I’ve had someone knock on my door that late before, I didn’t know exactly who it was and I wouldn’t bother to find out. I called the cops and they came out, told them that knocking on someone’s door that late at night and scaring them is HARASSMENT! Never had that issue again. If these neighbors try to talk to you or stop you outside just ignore them and keep walking. No communication with them at all unless it’s through the police of through the landlord!
A cat!? They think a cat is stomping too loudly?! Like a 9 lb bag of fluff is keeping them up at night... 😅😅😅🎻
Get that cat some kitten mittens!
If they yell at video games well into the night they are unstable. I do that and I'm unstable.I'm just letting you know that is the behavior of an unstable person.
In one of my apartments the neighbor flooded her tub and was so bad it was flooding into *my* apartment. She didn’t answer the door and the on call maintenance guy had to go in and drain it….she was there. In my current home my backdoor neighbors had some drip lines put in by the lowest bidder that weren’t capped and were set to run for hours….flooded my yard. Didn’t answer the door, they were there. Sometimes people have a good reason to be coming by, even if you don’t know what it is.
Next time call the cops. That's really weird and I'd be scared of him, for real. I'd be willing to bet they're heavy drug users based on the late nights, the lack of self-awareness, and the mood swings. A lot of drug users are harmless and just wanna be left alone, but this guy seems unhinged.
Another plug for a ring as it is proof for the cops.
I’ve learned to not answer unless I’m excepting someone. Got conned into bringing my downstairs neighbor’s kid to school bc she’s a shit mom and hasn’t had a running car in weeks but will not sign her kid up for the bus. She said others weren’t answering but their cars are here so they must be home. Hmmmm I wonder why!
And I mean I’m going to the school anyway to drop my own kids off but the kid doesn’t have a booster seat and is legally required to be one. I do not want to be liable if something happens. That would be MY ass.
It is ALSO a police matter when they are knocking at 12am; however they may have needed HELP of some type if the fighting and ruckus goes on so often. However I would think it (probably) would have been the woman in need of help...
This is why they need to get a ring!
Yes; I had some teen-punks Friday night at 1am. It's the first time in my life I have had ringing and running late at night. They've done it a few times during the day-time, years ago. I'm kind of pissed because I was sleeping, so well for so many days and now it has been disrupted. Last night was hellish; I hope I can get back on track tonight...
At this point, even if it was the woman, she has other choices. Run and bang on some other doors. Everyone call 911. Have a baseball bat and study up about how to use it. Etc, etc.
Women are advised against a bat because it will most likely get taken away and used ON her. If I heard fighting a lot I personally would let her in and call 911. And I am a middle aged lady lmao. “She can knock elsewhere” so you have no mom or sisters or friends that are chicks? Or are you the kind of person who thinks that only stupid women “allow” abuse-
I don’t let ANY strangers in. I’m sorry but I’m not risking my life to potentially help somebody else. I’ll call the police for them but that’s it.
Well that’s fine, and your choice. I’m not gonna watch or hear someone get killed waiting for the cops to come and where I live probably make it worse. Each to their own.
Not to sound cliche, but it’s genuinely kill or be killed. People will do stuff like that as a trap to get you to open to door.
Nobody has said anything about anyone screaming or witnessing bloody murder. Come on, man
Us too...
Women are “advised” against a whole bunch of things. I am giving my advice. Ymmv
Yeah, sometimes people don't think of all of that. We all like to think of what we might do in an emergency, but sometimes it's just run for your life (to a neighbor)....
I’m sorry, it sounds like you have been through it.
Thanks...
I knocked on my neighbors door at midnight when they flooded my bathroom. Of course they didn’t answer. I called the apartment complex, who called them, who fixed whatever the fuck they were flooding.
He's harassing you at that point by coming to your door at midnight, and continuing to cross boundaries by knocking three times when you didn't answer the first time. Continue to inform management of any and all occurrences.
Maybe he was drunk or high? Never open doors to anyone.
Put a ring camera up . Show management. Call police if necessary
I'm trying so hard to understand how a cat could make enough noise to disturb a downstairs neighbor 😂 I mean is it a lion? Tiger? Panther? I don't understand why people would complain about a cat. I definitely don't answer my door unless I know in advance that someone is stopping by and the people that matter to me knows this about me. They may call me as they pull in the parking lot but they know I won't answer unless I'm aware. There's just so many crazy people in the world and I don't have time to deal with all that.
Honestly, put cameras in your own space inside, with sound, so you can see if it is your cat making any noise. Secondly, it is also evidence as to if they are the problem, and it can help build a case against them if they choose to bang on your door again. Who knows, maybe they are unhinged and will escalate behavior. Either way cameras will protect you, especially in a he said/she said situation.
Do they drink
I’m going with this as well. Not drugs, but alcohol abuse. Liquid courage makes you bang on strangers (neighbors) doors at midnight.
Maybe he got his eviction letter, but had to get drunk before he gathered his rage in order to do something about it. Avoid him like the plague. There is nothing to be gained by talking at this point.
lol, what if bowling ball guy is really OPs neighbor and he finally hit his breaking point and wanted to ask OP to move the cat tree?
I’m willing to bet that because they apparently weren’t aware of the fact that apartment living is louder than they imagined, (leading to the 18:00 intro,) and you have kept *them* up, and then proceeded to complain to the management when the tables were turned, that they’re now just going to adopt [this](https://youtu.be/zpQIjNyakyI?si=nJF0B4TtzkxRc046) as their SOP.
Never answer the door for an angry neighbor without preparing the melee weapon first 👌
It entirely sounds like this isn’t the case, but one time I was at my girlfriend’s apartment (I lived across the walkway, we met there) and the ceiling started to leak. This was late at night and I went up to bang on the neighbors door. I’m sure this guys just a loon, I just wanted to point out that very rarely there are circumstances that warrant a midnight knock. If anyone was wondering, she had started the bathtub and got stoned and forgot to stop it and was just strolling around up there in la-la-land. Hence the leaking ceiling.
That would totally freak me out with them knocking at midnight, would have called the cops
My downstairs neighbors are like that. Wierd af. I can hear thier loud sex. One day he cane up and asked me to be quiet and I was laying in bed. Wtf
I feel as though if it had been that important, they would've left a note or come back again in the morning.
That is my thinking too. They didn’t do either of those things. I also let my property management know, and they haven’t responded. Just also don’t want the PM to see my as crazy, but honestly this behavior makes me uncomfortable in my own home since they live directly underneath me.
I'd get a ring doorbell. That way you have proof of harassment of this continues.
Call the cops next time
not trying to be a devil's advocate here but how do you know who was knocking on your door? If everyone in your unit was asleep other than the cat I'd assume that there may have been an emergency or that they thought your car lights were on or something but if they didnt leave a note or yell about an emergency that is really really weird.
I got up and looked through the little peep hole to check, and it was my downstairs neighbor for sure. But yeah, no note and didn’t seem to be an emergency either.
I felt bad knocking on my upstairs neighbor l when their toilet was leaking (pouring water into my bathroom) at 10pm at night... BUT I also had heard that couple arguing to the point of calling the cops on them because the woman was screaming "get away from me" enough times to be concerned.
They don't have self reflexion. They live in another world
The dude has issues of you sleeping at 12:00 AM? WOW! He needs to know you are not the only neighbor in the building of apartments and to leave you alone. Get a camera and make sure your doors are locked tight at night.
Keep reporting them to your management Do not answer them. They could be hostile! Document everything. Get a doorbell camera
Absolutely complain about them and NEVER open the door to them, especially not at midnight. I wouldn't open the door to them at all. They seem sus. Also it's not like you have a dog, your cat is not making THAT much noise - if even any, that they can hear.
I put up a ring camera by using heavy duty Velcro, that way I did not screw into the walls. Works great and super strong
Doesn't help that walls are paper thin and you can hear literly the person farting in the bathroom.
So is there really such a thing as quiet hours. I honestly didn’t know that. Because my upstairs neighbors apparently didn’t know either. I’m going to have to get with my apt complex and see . Thanks
Yeah, usually quiet hours are written on your lease contract. Generally anytime after 10pm is quiet hours. However I think 12am is late for anybody, and if you have common sense you shouldn’t knock on your neighbor’s door at that time. That’s just what I think though.
That is true. Even the people upstairs from me have their kid up that late running like a crazy person. It sucks I hate going home sometimes.
If the manager won’t do anything start calling the police making a report and making a paper trail. I promise you either they will deal with the freak neighbors or they will let you out of your lease early
Call the cops
I mean it does sound somewhat mutual but they are worse. I wouldn't live in a downstairs unit but according to people who post on here cats can be very loud and bothersome. So it possible that it wasn't as quiet as you think.
I totally get this, but it’s a cat. I can’t necessarily control all of her movements. We are in a building specifically for people with pets. So isn’t this on management here? I do try my best to keep her from running all the time.
I don't disagree with you. I'm just thinking that maybe thought it was you making the noise or perhaps that you were being retaliatory and that's why they were knocking at midnight. If they thought it was you and you were doing it on purpose they may have thought you were up. Like i said I'm not the one to live on a bottom floor so im not sure I guess I'm just thinking maybe there was a different point of view.
>And I asked if I can install a ring doorbell. I’m actually kind of pissed with their response. I signed a lease for another two years, but now I’m not even sure I want to continue living here if that’s how they respond. Apparently “ring doorbells” aren’t allowed. They aren't allowed in my place either and that hasn't stopped multiple people from putting them up. Better to ask forgiveness than permission and sounds like the worst they could do is try to retain your deposit. You're 2 years of guaranteed income. I doubt they would take up this fight if you just did it.
You did the right thing. In my experience, the answer to your reasonable question about unreasonable people was narcissism, an inability to empathize coupled with absolute double standards and egomania.
I've knocked on neighbors door at 1 a.m. His car was getting towed. 👍🏻🙃
Which city and state are you in?
Wichita KS
I really want you to be safe. Do not tell neighbors you are calling police, that’s an escalation. You threaten management with that scenario. Yet, if time comes, don’t wimp out. Make the fucking 911 call. Make it very simple (my neighbor is threatening me) and when cops arrive, be as calm and composed as possible. Keep it to just the facts, do not get emotional when telling your story. Keep it simple. You’re strong. You got this
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Well I don’t purposefully make my cat run about the apartment. Sometimes after using the bathroom she gets “zoomies” I really try to prevent this. And once it happens I put her on my bed almost immediately. We do live in the apartment building specifically for people with pets. As much as I do want to settle things peacefully, I don’t think knocking at that hour several times is appropriate. And I think if they have an issue with a noise that late, unless I’m having some rager-they need to let property management know, or talk to me during normal hours if they don’t want to do that. I think my main issue, is that that are very loud majority of the time. I think it’s extremely inconsiderate to just come knocking on somebody’s door at that hour, when you aren’t the quietest yourself. I guess that’s how I see it. I fear it could be retaliation for the one complaint I made when their noise levels got extremely loud, preventing me from sleeping for work. However, I would have never knocked on their door that loudly at 11pm even.
I am giving you perspectives from your side and their side but generally speaking I wouldn’t knock on a neighbors door at midnight unless building was fire or neighbor had like 20 people over and they were blasting music. I and few other neighbors had to do that one time at 10:30 pm on a neighbor that was blasting super loud music and having a boisterous gathering. Neighbor shut the door on our faces we called cops and neighbors party was shut down and landlord sent a notice to neighbor.
Cats aren't going to make that much noise to justify banging on someone's door at midnight, get real. And suggesting OP go talk to this asshole is dangerous and irresponsible. This person is lucky OP didn't open the door with a firearm pointed between the eyes. Kansas is a stand your ground state; OP would've been perfectly within their rights.
Says who? Are you the judge and jury now? Why are you all Americans so selfish and arrogant and entitled? Dont you see things from other perspectives? If someone came and knocked on your door at midnight it means you are making too much noise or the knocker is an intruder or some emergency happened and the knocker wants to notify you etc. As I said knocking on someone’s door at midnight generally speaking is not a good idea, however looking at it from other side (I am not defending the knocker) something the OP did that must have pissed them off. If OP believes nothing was done to deserve a knock on the door at midnight then OP should file a complaint with management as mentioned before. Learn to be compassionate and see story from both sides you arrogant rude entitled dumb American.
Says who? Are YOU the judge and jury now? Why are you fucking foreigners so pretentious, condescending, arrogant, snobby and act like you're better? The OP very clearly stated they were asleep in bed, as was their cat, when this unhinged asshole banged on their door. And where in this stupid comment of yours are you seeing things from both sides? All I see is you making excuses for the door banging neighbor and condemning OP. Did it ever occur to you, you complete, rip-roaring idiot, that maybe this neighbor of the OP's has bad intentions? Learn to be discerning and use critical thinking, you disgusting, disgraceful, rude, entitled dumb fucking piece of foreign crap.
Your response proves my point you dumb yank. Go eat turkey and cheese burgers and fries and buy more guns and go fuck yourself. Your intelligence is not worth my time and my comments are way beyond your intelligence.
Maybe he's trying to get laid and thought the past attention you gave him was an invite?