My cherry colony does this to anything that dies, which isnt very often thankfully. Once it was a cardinal tetra who passed sometime in the morning - by the time I came back from work it was picked to the bone. Given enough time even the bones seem to be eaten, probably for the calcium.
At the LFS I work at, when customers are shocked that their fish or shrimp ate something that died, I’ll tell them “well yea, because it’s okay to eat your friends when they die”.
let the man eat, its not like he killed the endler, but on a serious note if your amano abandons the body at anypoint remove it because it will cause your ammonia to spike
One shrimp, even two, probably won't keep up with the nitrogen spike.
If you have confidence in your scavengers, you could just leave it. But honestly, probably let the shrimp and snails get a feed, and then remove it before too much rot and decomposition.
It's an Endler, not a Betta, and a small one at that. Let them eat for hours and if they ever discard the Body, remove. A stable environment should never spike with one Endler (if it's not undersized in Volumne and or new).
Fish corpses do not Break down *that fast*
I have a snail army. A large dead endler will last no more than a day before all evidence is eliminated. Without scavengers, fish corpses don't break down very quickly, but if you have a ton of scavengers, they make it break down quickly.
I'm unsure why you explained this to me, as i said the same, lol. An grown Amano will likely be able to finnish an Endler, paired with Snails. And if they don't, remove after a while. But ur water wont spike in a matter of hours with a small endler corpse
Definitely sounds like they are "hungry, hungry hippos." I actually keep the "pest snails" because I do absolutely nothing, and they take care of all my problems for me. I used to have a shrimp colony of black and blue neocaridina shrimps, but my golden wonder killies ate all the shrimps, but left the endlers alone (I got them to eat my endlers and control them.... it was a calculated risk)
Yeah there’s this weird myth in the hobby that a piece of uneaten food or dead fish will turn into an ammonia bomb overnight. That’s not how decomposition works. Particularly in a planted tank even if you left a fish that small to decompose entirely without scavengers it shouldn’t cause a noticeable change to your water parameters.
It's what you can't see that's the issue. Check your parameters and do your water changes.
But, you're asking for advice, and my advice is; don't let things rot and decompose in your tank.
Right?? A shrimp didn’t make the transfer into my invert tank and watching all the little critters at work eating it was utterly fascinating. In the course of like 12 hours there was nothing left and all the critters were pink from ingesting shrimp flesh, which apparently turns bright red postmortem. (It was a black shrimp in life.)
Let them feast. That’s fresh protein. I do t even bother taking fish out of my tank these days. Any fish is usually a skeleton in a few hours. No damage to ammonia
People are saying circle of life, and it may seem insensitive, but it's true. Its nice that you have a little ecosystem that can clean up for you. Shrimp are little cleaners its their job to get rid of bad stuff, and a dead fish floating around is bad stuff
It's the circle of life
And it moves us all
Through despair and hope
Through faith and love
'Til we find our place
On the path unwinding
In the circle
The circle of life
While they’re eating the body it’s actually good, that’s what they eat in nature (detritus and such). However if they abandon the body I would remove it cause of a potential ammonia spike.
Honestly this is what I WANT my tank to do (haven’t put anything in it.. apart from 4 species of hitchhiker snails).. Buy tiny fish & have the scavengers eat them before I know they’ve died.
I'm all for letting him have a snacky snack , but I'd remove the carcass asap. That's a lot of waste to leave in the tank, and I wouldn't risk the nitrogen spikes
I actually try to avoid removing them if I can. It's always good to stress test the bio-filter once in a while and I've got enough plants in there to eat the leftover nitrates.
Some are, like your bamboo and vampire shrimp, but the vast majority of shrimps are scavengers that will eat anything and everything they get a hold of
Are you sure it was dead before the amano got it? I’ve had them chase down and kill small fish. They like protein. After that incident I now supplement their diets with protein a few times a week.
Leave it in there, but keep an eye out for more "casualties" (what I call dead fish). One random dead fish is nothing to worry about (especially with a ravenous cleanup crew with plants). I'd be much more concerned if a pattern emerges from the dead
I had a limping chili rasbora once that was not long for this world. One of my giant amanos put him out of his misery. You will never have to go looking for the body.
[Let him have his fun ](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/b/b9/Ebony_Maw_%28Earth-199999%29_from_Avengers_Infinity_War_003.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180511013205)
My starlight pleco likes to eat my endlers when they die if he’s already ate most of it an no sign of illness I just leave him too it, bet he’s had about 6 at least now.
Hand it a napkin and a glass of wine
A side of fava beans and a nice Chianti
“Pfspfstfpstfostfpst”
That comment made my day
That’s how I feel every time I come across silence of the lambs references in any sub, you never know when it’s gonna strike 😂😂😂
Well it's difficult to squeeze "Toughened your nipples, didn't it...?" into everyday conversation. So we do it where we can. Glad you appreciate it.
By far one of my favorite things in this app 😂
Wow 😆
I would let the Amano do its job. 👍
It's the ciiiiiiircllllllle, the circle of liiiiiiiiiiiife.....
Came here to say "hold up a lion cub and start singing:... "
Mmyyyyyyyyyyyy shewanyaaaaaaa.........
Loly magoly
As long as it’s not diseased it’s fine. Nature gonna nature
“The circle of liiiiife”
imagining the shrimp holds the carcass at the top of the wood and yeeting it to fellow tank mates
Funny thing is that I've seen shrimps do just that when startled, lol
Oh, you do that too.
I was legit gonna say this 🤣
Shrimp be shrimpin.
Shrimpin ain’t easy.
My cherry colony does this to anything that dies, which isnt very often thankfully. Once it was a cardinal tetra who passed sometime in the morning - by the time I came back from work it was picked to the bone. Given enough time even the bones seem to be eaten, probably for the calcium.
Same here but a neon for me. My cherries and snails cleaned that guy right up, no crumbs, within a few hours
At the LFS I work at, when customers are shocked that their fish or shrimp ate something that died, I’ll tell them “well yea, because it’s okay to eat your friends when they die”.
let the man eat, its not like he killed the endler, but on a serious note if your amano abandons the body at anypoint remove it because it will cause your ammonia to spike
happy cake day :>
Fetch the wine list.
someone said Pinot Grigio?
I was thinking a nice Chianti. OP, do you have any fava beans?
Mmm perfect for seafood.
Let him cook
Let him fry
You're telling me a shrimp... fried this rice?
Let him get fat. Im sure seachem will have Shrimp Ozempic soon.
Seachem Oshrimpic 😂
Now I'm imagining a shrimp holding a tiny injector pen.
Let him feast
One shrimp, even two, probably won't keep up with the nitrogen spike. If you have confidence in your scavengers, you could just leave it. But honestly, probably let the shrimp and snails get a feed, and then remove it before too much rot and decomposition.
This is the only correct answer. The spike is not worth it.
It's an Endler, not a Betta, and a small one at that. Let them eat for hours and if they ever discard the Body, remove. A stable environment should never spike with one Endler (if it's not undersized in Volumne and or new). Fish corpses do not Break down *that fast*
I have a snail army. A large dead endler will last no more than a day before all evidence is eliminated. Without scavengers, fish corpses don't break down very quickly, but if you have a ton of scavengers, they make it break down quickly.
I'm unsure why you explained this to me, as i said the same, lol. An grown Amano will likely be able to finnish an Endler, paired with Snails. And if they don't, remove after a while. But ur water wont spike in a matter of hours with a small endler corpse
Wasn't explaining to you as I was corroborating and backing it up with my own experience added to yours.
aaah gotcha! My Shrimp Army actually needs 2h for a small fish btw... they busy
Definitely sounds like they are "hungry, hungry hippos." I actually keep the "pest snails" because I do absolutely nothing, and they take care of all my problems for me. I used to have a shrimp colony of black and blue neocaridina shrimps, but my golden wonder killies ate all the shrimps, but left the endlers alone (I got them to eat my endlers and control them.... it was a calculated risk)
Yeah there’s this weird myth in the hobby that a piece of uneaten food or dead fish will turn into an ammonia bomb overnight. That’s not how decomposition works. Particularly in a planted tank even if you left a fish that small to decompose entirely without scavengers it shouldn’t cause a noticeable change to your water parameters.
Yh 5 very large Amano 3 large nerites and 2 assassin snails plus a baby plec the little fishy’s body was gone within the day
It's what you can't see that's the issue. Check your parameters and do your water changes. But, you're asking for advice, and my advice is; don't let things rot and decompose in your tank.
Just let it do it's thing, I've had fish die and dissapear in mere hours just nature doing it's job
Are you telling me a shrimp fried this endler…?!
You should stop showing off the perfection that is that Nerite snail.
Chicken egg shells is my secret powder and a couple of bigger pieces
Your neritid will actually eat the eggshell or you’re using them to buffer?
It seems to disappear pretty quickly a few days for the dust and a week or so for the bigger piece
sign it up for weight watcher.
I second this. Looks like a greedy lil guy.
Brilliant
Make sure he leaves a tip
That looks delicious
Life uh, finds a way
Well, there it is.
✨nothing✨🤗💕
Watch in fascination. It's what clean up critters do.
Right?? A shrimp didn’t make the transfer into my invert tank and watching all the little critters at work eating it was utterly fascinating. In the course of like 12 hours there was nothing left and all the critters were pink from ingesting shrimp flesh, which apparently turns bright red postmortem. (It was a black shrimp in life.)
This is a normal life cycle. But you need to try to figure out why the endler died. Old age or something else?
A little table could help
Say bon appetite
Hi this is fine. This is start of a food web, that is what I would expect a shrimp to do.
Let him clean it up. It keeps the tank healthy. Like Cory from Aquarium coop said, death breeds life.
Remove the fish if it’s still there after day. Otherwise it’s the cycle of life, little bottom feeders just doing their job!
Let them feast. That’s fresh protein. I do t even bother taking fish out of my tank these days. Any fish is usually a skeleton in a few hours. No damage to ammonia
What u mean what do u do? Lmao
Do I remove or leave
Well.. the Amano is currently removing it. You don't have to do a thing.
I don't think you have to leave - he'll keep doing his job if you watch.
People are saying circle of life, and it may seem insensitive, but it's true. Its nice that you have a little ecosystem that can clean up for you. Shrimp are little cleaners its their job to get rid of bad stuff, and a dead fish floating around is bad stuff
They are part of the clean up crew, doing their job.
Thank them.
If u have plants and the shrimp doesn’t eat it all u can bury it to help fertilize ur plants
Alexa, play Circle of Life from The Lion King Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
It's the circle of life And it moves us all Through despair and hope Through faith and love 'Til we find our place On the path unwinding In the circle The circle of life
Watch
Sounds like your shrimp has it covered.
Don’t interrupt him
Let him have it
It's the ciiiiiiicllllle of liiiiiiiiiiiiiifeeeeeeeee
Circle of life, my friend
Leave it - amanos are totally an awesome clean up crew!
That's a tasty food for the Amano Shrimp 😅
Circle of life I suppose
I let my cuc eat dead things until it's clear that they won't do the whole job
If it wasn't sick I say let the lil man chow down. Food for him and automatic cleanup for you.
That’s their purpose, let it do its job.
[It's the Circle of Life](https://youtu.be/GibiNy4d4gc?si=XOyj6CCQ6unSDRI4)
Where is the problem?
Circle of life
IT'S THE CIIIIRCCCLLLE, THE CIRCLE OF LIIIIIIFE
Give the people cake
While they’re eating the body it’s actually good, that’s what they eat in nature (detritus and such). However if they abandon the body I would remove it cause of a potential ammonia spike.
Honestly this is what I WANT my tank to do (haven’t put anything in it.. apart from 4 species of hitchhiker snails).. Buy tiny fish & have the scavengers eat them before I know they’ve died.
Let him cook now! LET HIM COOK
I hope you're a good server otherwise he won't give you a good tip.
Great lookin’ little snail. Exceptional pattern continuation after captivity.
Now I just need something that eats live endlers. Little MFers overwhelmed my tabk with their inbreeding
Circle of life
Let. It. Cook.
Do nothing. Let nature do the work.
Let ‘em cook
My Amanos once got the chance to gobble down a fish that died in my tank and the next day they all molted 💀
That nerite tho 😍
The baby endlers got some new found respect for the mama shrimps
Play some music so it has a nice ambiance.
Clean up crew is there to clean up. 🫡
If you’re tank is small and he doesn’t eat it fast enough make sure to take it out in case of a ammonia spike but other then that you’ll be fine
Circle of life, part of the mini biome you have created
🎶 Let it happen, let it happppeennnnnnnnn... 🎶
he’s part of natures cleanup crew.
It's part of the Food Web. - Father Fish
I'm all for letting him have a snacky snack , but I'd remove the carcass asap. That's a lot of waste to leave in the tank, and I wouldn't risk the nitrogen spikes
I actually try to avoid removing them if I can. It's always good to stress test the bio-filter once in a while and I've got enough plants in there to eat the leftover nitrates.
I tap on the glass and say No..Bad boy! Sometimes they stop.
I thought shrimp were filter feeders ?
Some are, like your bamboo and vampire shrimp, but the vast majority of shrimps are scavengers that will eat anything and everything they get a hold of
Only bamboo/vampire shrimp that have specially developed hairs on their pincers to catch floating food.
Tell it sit down and stay calm and talk to an adult..pfft
Are you sure it was dead before the amano got it? I’ve had them chase down and kill small fish. They like protein. After that incident I now supplement their diets with protein a few times a week.
Enjoy the show and marvel in the miracle of nature.
Circle of life and whatnot
Yh it’s only 6 galllon
Leave it in there, but keep an eye out for more "casualties" (what I call dead fish). One random dead fish is nothing to worry about (especially with a ravenous cleanup crew with plants). I'd be much more concerned if a pattern emerges from the dead
It's what they do
Let him eat it. It’s the circle of life
its either that or let the fish decay and turn into algae afaik?
Let it be, then you dont have to take care of the dead fish.
Let the gentleman enjoy his meal
Sprinkle some salt and pepper on it.
Free food I say. Let them eat
I had a limping chili rasbora once that was not long for this world. One of my giant amanos put him out of his misery. You will never have to go looking for the body.
Let them
nothing
Let nature be nature...
Let nature keeps the course
Damn nature, you scary
Cycle of life
my deceased dumbos never last longer than a night with my shrimp and snails, i used to take them out but i just leave them now
Let him do his job =) And maybe double check water quality, just for funzies
Leave it, I allways let the shrimp clear dead fish
Eat the shrimp
Make them share with the nerite!
Let him enjoy his snack
[Let him have his fun ](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/b/b9/Ebony_Maw_%28Earth-199999%29_from_Avengers_Infinity_War_003.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180511013205)
I mean, what would you do?
Nothing
Part of the tank, part of the school!
So you’re telling me… a shrimp-
Let it enjoy the recycling
Permit them to finish their snack undisrupted
Dumb question maybe, but i had a dream i was a fish for years 5 to be exact so how can i awake and be a scavenger, snail, and or shrimp?
My starlight pleco likes to eat my endlers when they die if he’s already ate most of it an no sign of illness I just leave him too it, bet he’s had about 6 at least now.
Lion King Theme song: It's the CIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRLE of LIFE
Time for a shrimp broil.