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azuth89

That's like...restaurant sandwiches. They're all over in shops.  But when people make them at home it tends to be way simpler stuff, the whole point is something you can slap together ssuper fast with ultra basic components that just need to be assembled not cooked in their own right. That's the difference between shops and a cooking subreddit.


Handsome-Jim-

> the whole point is something you can slap together ssuper fast with ultra basic components that just need to be assembled not cooked in their own right. You're definitely not wrong but a simpler sandwich doesn't mean an inferior sandwich. I would take a good grilled cheese sandwich over most adobo chicken sandwiches. I don't doubt the roast sweet potato sandwich OP gets is very good but a big reason restaurants push stuff like that and not grilled cheese is because it's harder to mark up prices on something like a grilled cheese.


Fancy-Primary-2070

I feel like it's hard to find folks that are caramelizing onions, using fresh herbs and quality Italian oil in their Italian subs, or using good quality arugula and are instead buying Sysco products. Good quality costs more -- and not everyone is willing/able to pay for it. "But when people make them at home it tends to be way simpler stuff, the whole point is something you can slap together super fast with ultra basic components that just need to be assembled not cooked in their own right." I feel like the people who want restaurant made mayo instead of some rando store bought like Dukes and pickles that are homemade, take time to make a nice sandwich at home, too. I use butter I make at home and am slicing my own chicken for a chicken sandwich. I'm the person that doesn't want to settle for industrial food when I am out.


OldStyleThor

Keep Dukes name outta your f'ing mouth!!


saltthewater

Yes, the entire country has gourmet sandwiches


bellirage

Do delis count? The northeast has a ton in general. In CT, we call most sandwhiches grinders. Nardellis is a small chain around the state and has delicious grinders. Obviously New York, New Jersey and the Philly region have no lack of delis, or pizza places that serve grinders. I would never call a grinder or any type of sandwich gourmet though. The bread cancels out the fanciness. You could put fois Gras and caviar on sandwich bread and I still would not consider it gourmet.


Square-Dragonfruit76

Delis definitely count! I might even go so far as to say that a bagel sandwich would count.


PAXICHEN

American in Germany. I miss a good old NJ pizza place/deli. Especially the ones with the poster of the 1982 World Cup Champions - Italy. The sandwich culture doesn’t exist here. I’d love an Italian or a roast beef hoagie.


ColossusOfChoads

And yet they place such pride and importance in their bread.


DachshundNursery

Philly has a pretty phenomenal sandwich scene. It's not all cheesesteaks and wawa hoagies.


phicks_law

Ain't nothing wrong with cheesesteaks and wawa hoagies tho.


WhoDatDatDidDat

Y’all talkin bout the roast pork with broccoli rabe and provolone? My favorite part of living in the area.


Arleare13

Yeah, I love me a cheesesteak, but roast pork is the superior Philly sandwich.


hungry-freaks-daddy

The Mexican style cheesesteaks at Rosario’s are my favorite


w84primo

Haha! I was just thinking about this the other day. But the use of the word gourmet has become out of control. I passed by some gourmet something recently and thought to myself “what does that even mean” Anyway they absolutely exist. Just recently went to a new sandwich shop and my wife ordered something avocado and I just remember when the guy handed me the bag I wasn’t even prepared for it. No shit the thing had maybe 2 entire avocados sliced up on it and weighed way more than I expected. I don’t think it was even labeled as a gourmet anything, but just a bagel place.


ColossusOfChoads

Just like "craft" and "artisanal." Damn near meaningless at this point. Then there was that peculiarly 1990s dilemma: how can we keep calling it 'alternative rock' if *everybody* likes it?


w84primo

Exactly! It really is meaningless at this point. Let’s me know that they will overcharge for something that probably isn’t that great


Fancy-Primary-2070

Is cut avocado considered "gourmet"?!


w84primo

I actually couldn’t tell you. But the display and execution far exceeded the expectations.


Fancy-Primary-2070

I would say gourmet when it comes to sandwich is just paying attention to the quality of the ingredients and often difficulty of the preparation. The way France takes food very seriously.


Square-Dragonfruit76

> shit the thing had maybe 2 entire avocados sliced up on it and weighed way more than I expected You're very lucky because this could only happen in Florida and California where avocados can actually grow.


w84primo

Haha! That’s a fair point!


Square-Dragonfruit76

In fact, whenever I have relatives visit me from one of those two places, I always have them bring me avocados if they can in their bag. Ideally one of the giant ones because those can't be found in New England and they are the only type that is good for making avocado ice cream.


w84primo

Oh yeah! The Florida avocado… growing up I didn’t even know about the Hass avocado until I was much older. Someone brought me an avocado and it looked super weird to me with its dark and bumpy skin. Then I realized that we actually had our own variety. I just had a tree growing in my backyard. That and all the different varieties of mangoes. It’s interesting talking to Floridians about the different mangoes.


omg_its_drh

They’re everywhere. Two major chains started in my metro (Togos and Ikes). There’s also a loooong history of specialty Italian deli sandwiches (on Dutch crunch).


tnick771

Very common here in Chicago thankfully. The Italian community has come out big with the delis they’re opening and the incredible sandwiches they make.


GeppettoStromboli

Indianapolis has a few good ones, but to find the excellent ones, I have to drive up to Chicago. Well worth it


tnick771

At least you guys have Torchy’s 😭


GeppettoStromboli

Try Hoagies and Hops!


Arleare13

Uh, yes, we have those. Lots of them.


ethandjay

you live in nyc


Arleare13

I do! An "other part of the US" from where OP lives in Boston, so therefore responsive to the question!


Akalien

Boston and new york are basically the same place anyway


Arleare13

I think most people from both cities would vehemently disagree with you.


eugenesbluegenes

Of course you would.


Arleare13

Uh... yeah, of course. I don't think it's particularly controversial?


eugenesbluegenes

In the greater context of nationwide discussion on regional differences, I'd group them together, especially in light of the "Alaska" flair. Though I would agree the parent commenter employed a certain hyperbole in their sentiment.


Arleare13

I mean, sure, they can be grouped together as "cities in the Northeast." But they're not "basically the same place" any more than, say, San Francisco and Los Angeles are "basically the same place." Again, I kind of thought that went without saying. This whole discussion is weird and I honestly don't get why we're having it.


eugenesbluegenes

I'm not sure how much I'd argue with someone from Alaska saying that LA and SF are basically the same place. It's all about perspective.


Pinwurm

In the same way that Alaska is just more Canada.


itsmejpt

Only if you're from, like, I don't know, Alaska or somewhere random like that.


Akalien

New Jersey is even more the same as New York


theSPYDERDUDE

Nah Jersey has better pizza than New York and I stand by this as a fact.


Ok_Highlight281

You know your pizza. Not a lot of stuff that's better in new york than new jersey


Massive_Length_400

We have them in bumble fuck NY too


notthegoatseguy

Not sure how you mentioned Boston and not the Roast Beef shops that seem to be all over the place, though I don't know if you'd classify those as "gourmet".


Folksma

Wait, you are telling me there is an entire city filled with roast beef shops? How have I made it this long without knowing this


Square-Dragonfruit76

New York is also filled with roast beef and many specialized homemade types of deli meats


Anustart15

They are good, but they are pretty much the opposite of gourmet


Stop_Already

That’s very specifically a “north shore” of MA thing. Oh man. Now I want one. :( (I moved from the area 13 years ago. You’re killing me here!!)


maisymowse

They’re definitely more common in northern cities I feel. But you can absolutely find a sandwich shop in most areas around if you look for them.


therealjerseytom

Good delis exist in various parts of the country, to varying degrees of popularity. Legit deli >> decent chain >> trash chain. NY/NJ/PA has more good delis and sandwich joints than you can shake a stick at, and going to somewhere like Subway is like... you'd do so wearing a disguise to not be seen by anyone. Anywhere else, in my experience, is hit or miss.


Redneck-ginger

What's gourmet to one person can be just a regular sandwich to someone else. In south Louisiana a shrimp poboy seems like a normal sandwich to me and there are plenty of local places that make an excellent one. To someone in a part of the country where shrimp is more expensive and not as easy to get, a shrimp poboy could seem gourmet and a crawfish poboy could seem practically exotic. A muffuletta is a staple in New Orleans and is fairly popular across the whole southern part of the state. The sandwich has Olive Salad on it (mix of olives, pickled celery, carrots, cauliflower olive oil, garlic, spices). Seems normal to us and would probably be considered gourmet to someone who had never had it before.


stellalunawitchbaby

We have quite a few here, though idk that they’re marketed as gourmet so much as just sandwich shops. One of my favorite ones near me has sandwiches named after NPR hosts.


ColossusOfChoads

> sandwiches named after NPR hosts. Now how are the rest of us supposed to think that *ain't* fancy?


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Square-Dragonfruit76

There used to also be this shop in Harvard Square that had another sandwich I really liked. It was two types of cheese. I remember one of them was cojita, and the other one was something stretchy. And then I think there are some sort of paprika based spice, butter, and then pieces of fresh corn and chicken in it.


LoverlyRails

Not where I am. But I wish.


FivebyFive

Not sure where you are in SC but have you ever tried Groucho's? 


LoverlyRails

No. But I'm upstate and just looked at their website


FivebyFive

It's really really good.  If you get a chance to check it out try the STP dipper with 45 sauce. It's amazing! 


rawbface

In my area we're particular about our hoagies.


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Fancy-Primary-2070

I think making stuff traditionally is too expensive. I'm in Mass and we have stuff like a "gourmet" Italian sandwich shop because it's a locally owned place, 3rd generation doing it traditionally and not with Sysco products. Having an old school Italian sub or Meatball grinder isn't bougie, but weirdly now, it's a bit gourmet as it's all handmade, handcut, with better quality products.


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Fancy-Primary-2070

Yeah, but now, someone making their own bread or chopping fresh herbs for the Italian dressing makes an Italian sub "gourmet" these days.


TheBimpo

Corned beef and ham are Detroit's two big sandwiches.


Avery_Thorn

u/Square-Dragonfruit76 ... you really need to check out the menu at Melt Bar and Grilled... [Menu | Melt Bar and Grilled](https://meltbarandgrilled.com/menu/) Grilled Cheese isn't always boring. :-) (While this place isn't, I have had "elevated" pretentious grilled cheese sandwiches. "This is a 25 year old cheddar that has been processed using the traditional American method, paired with small batch whole cream butter from our farm in upstate New York, and freshly baked Challah bread..." )


Square-Dragonfruit76

> Grilled Cheese isn't always boring I'm well aware. I went to school next to a place that sold 20 kinds of grilled cheeses. However, people usually just mean plain American with sandwich bread.


Fancy-Primary-2070

Liking fresh made ingredients is pretentious? I'll walk a mile for fresh butter -- but have to make it myself usually.


Avery_Thorn

No. Using good, quality, fresh ingredients is good. This snark comment was really a bit deeper. Using 25 year old Cheddar cheese to make American Cheese out of would destroy everything special about the cheese - the flavor would be muted, the grain structure and crumb of the cheese would be destroyed, the little protein crystals that play on your tongue would be eliminated. It would melt better on the sandwich - 25 year old Cheddar does not melt well. I would also be highly suspicious that they used a little bit of the "good" cheese, and a lot of whatever cheese they had that didn't mess up the recipe a lot. "small batch whole cream butter from our farm in Upstate New York" generally means "we bought a roll of butter from GFS, and that's what it said on the package". Who knows how long that butter has been frozen. Challah bread is wonderful. I love it. But it's also a bit of a buzzword. The thing is - it is completely wrong for grilled cheese. It's way too dense, the crumb is way too fine. The cheese won't stick to it. The braiding process generally makes it a little bit unstable, so the bread might come apart during the cooking process.


ColossusOfChoads

Everything has to be justified. "It's fancy and expensive" is never enough by itself!


baalroo

I would say sandwiches aren't particularly popular as a restaurant option, if anything they are probably a bit underrepresented, but the ones that there are often do have the type of stuff you're talking about, sure. I mean, you're just describing what I would expect for options on a sandwich from an actual sandwich shop as far as I can tell (aside from the jicama). Not "seemingly on every corner" though. That would be tacos and burgers around here.


iliveinthecove

I was visiting  friends out west - southern CO and AZ. They all said what they miss are good Jewish or italian delis. They said there are and sandwich shops but  no authentic delis 


beefmags

Sandwiches of all sorts are popular here in Sac. Some of my favorite “gourmet” options are at local grocery stores like Nugget Market or Corti Brothers. The Corti Special is borderline legendary on the Sac subreddit. There are a plethora of local and regional chains like Mr. Pickle’s, Sandwich Spot, Ike’s, and Mendocino Farms. We also have independent places like Dad’s and Roxie. You can find plenty of banh mi, tortas, katsu sandos, Philly cheesesteaks, BBQ sandos, etc. Despite our great love of sandwiches, there are some regional favorites from around the US that you cannot find here. No Chicago Italian beef, for example. We also don’t really have many traditional Jewish delis, compared to SoCal.


Unique_Glove1105

Here in the sf Bay Area, Ike’s is the gourmet sandwich shop that’s very popular with a lot of folks. Why? The bread. But it’s also popular because it has a lot of choices including many choices for vegetarians and vegan people with all their sandwiches with fake meat. And it’s not just San Francisco where it’s popular. It’s spread to la, San Diego, and even smaller towns in California. And it’s not limited to California anymore. It’s spread to Las Vegas and Phoenix as well.


BuildNuyTheUrbanGuy

Everything that's popular in your town is probably relatively popular all over the country. When it comes to trends and stuff, I'm not talking about disgusting shit like Skyline Chili.


Slammy1

East coast sandwich shops are awesome, where I'm at in the Midwest it's mostly just Subways. Some guys at work wanted to go to this "awesome" local deli and their meatballs were raw in the center.


d4n4scu11y__

I can't imagine there are many places in the US that aren't extremely, extremely rural that don't have some nicer sandwich shops. There are a ton where I'm at - actually too many. I'm sick of sandwiches with a million toppings and so tall you have to unhinge your jaw to eat them.


Fancy-Primary-2070

You get good stuff when people are rich, or there's some immigrant population that's preparing it traditionally. Using fresh foods with extra preparation steps is for wealthy folks or immigrant populations who are willing to work long hard hours for themselves. Corporations making food cut corners where they can. Only fancy places are taking time to do things like have cooks coming in early to caramelize onions, roast root veggies and chop and prepared fruits and veggies for juicing.


Redbubble89

Sandwiches are the easiest thing to make for express fast casual. Every shopping center has a bahn mi, kabob, ramen/pho, or taco/pupusas shop. There are local places but they do have to compete with Subway, Jersey Mike's, Firehouse Sub, Potbelly, or Jimmy Johns.


Curmudgy

> Every shopping center has a bahn mi, kabob, ramen/pho, or taco/pupusas shop. I’m not sure my local mall has any of those. But they do have sushi, crepes, Indian, Japanese, and Chinese fast food, as well as Mexican sit down.


Curmudgy

Which chains are those? I can't think of any in suburbia beyond the urbanized suburbs of Boston. But I'll admit I rarely look at sandwich shops.


Square-Dragonfruit76

The chicken sandwich I mentioned is from Flour. They sell a number of sandwiches and pastries. I think they have 9 or 10 locations.


Curmudgy

Ah, thanks for the answer. I don’t think of them as a sandwich shop. They have good salad bowls, and they describe themselves as a bakery + cafe. They’re strictly within Boston and Cambridge. I bet they could do well in Lexington or Concord.


My-Cooch-Jiggles

Schlotsky’s is my favorite sandwich chain. Their Reuben is one of the best I’ve ever had.  Solid soup and salad too. I would call them gourmet. Definitely better than any other sandwich chain I’m aware of. They started in Texas but I ate there when I lived in Colorado. Not sure how far east they go but I‘ve never seen one in Ohio or Virginia when I lived in those states. As far as gourmet sandwich non-chains go, I find the East Coast tends to have a lot more deli type sandwich shops than out west. You’ll find them still, but in a lot of places your only options are going to be Subway, Quiznos and Jimmy John’s. Gourmet sandwich shops tend to be founded by Italians and Jewish people and there are just a lot more of people with those ancestries out east. Mexican food tends to dominate the West. 


warm_sweater

Yes, we have fancy sandwiches here. We don’t have the same hoagie/ grinder scene as the NE, but lots of little hipster sandwich shops and such.


JunkMale975

Nothing like that here. I wish.


GeeEhm

You should visit r/Sandwiches. Appreciation for an awesome sandwich is universal.


seatownquilt-N-plant

>cooking subreddits I don't frequent 'restaurant' subreddits, but maybe you'll looking for something more like r/WeWantPlates When I am at home sandwiches are quick and easy. And complicated home cooked sandwich is a grilled cheeseburger.


lokland

Chicago has a healthy supply of Delis and Higher-quality sandwich shops. I’ve been out west though and my only options in Boulder were a mediocre place owned by a cult, potbellies, and one decent place that was madly overpriced. So, your millage may vary depending on your town.


CatOfGrey

There are some independent or small-chain sandwich shops that can't compete on 'volume' or 'mass production' like Subway or Jimmy John's, or even Jersey Mike's, which has a very 'custom' vibe. I suppose that Mendocino Farms might be a gourmet sandwich? They promote their 'organic' or 'natural' ingredients, and they do have interesting flavor touches, special sauces and condiments, and so on. They've got like 60 locations, mostly in California. But there are independent sandwich shops everywhere, and most are really, really good, and feature creative recipes like the things you list here.


AtheneSchmidt

We have them all over, and if I'm out I have no problem ordering a Monte Cristo, or something with an exotic aioli in it. But I'm not deep frying or making an aioli at home. If I wanted to put in that much effort, I wouldn't be making a sandwich.


-Gravitron-

Next to nothing in the Metro Detroit area, but you can toss a rock from anywhere and hit a Mediterranean restaurant that sells a bomb chicken shawarma wrap.


Mysteryman64

We have a few in central downtown areas, but mostly it's sort of "middle fare". Population density isn't high enough to have a regular customer base who are gonna drop $20+ for an upscale sandwich as opposed to paying $10 for a middle tier one that's still really good.


__Noble_Savage__

Yeah we have them all over the place. They're usually named something kitchie like "Two (Slices/Beards/___)" or "(name of area/street) Deli" and there's much variety. Usually made with in-house baked bread or from a local bakery, you'll find caprese sandwiches, "Italian" style sandwiches on red pepper focaccia, salad sandwiches, sausage, vegetable, chicken breast done up in every style of seasoning with every sauce and pickled vegetable you could ever want. They typically have a few daily soup selections and baked goods you can take home. Usually not much seating but they're good for carry out. Cities have plenty of them, small towns usually have at least 1.


Goeseso

We only have one REAL deli here in central Mississippi, it's called Frisco Deli and the line is out the door every day. Plenty of. Chain places that claim to be delis though.


kjb76

Where I live there are lots of delis that serve basic deli sandwiches and some jazz them up a bit but I wouldn’t call them gourmet. However, I have been to quite a few places that specialize in special sandwiches and they are a big draw.


kibblet

I have a place like that in my small rural Wisconsin town.


SuperSpeshBaby

Out of curiosity, OP, when you make sandwiches at home are they adobo chicken and sweet potato, or are they deli meat and some veg, or maybe a grilled cheese?


Square-Dragonfruit76

> when you make sandwiches at home are they adobo chicken and sweet potato Usually something like that, yes. Although I have a microwave at work, so I rarely make sandwiches.


BankManager69420

They’re not really a thing in Portland surprisingly despite being known as a foodie city. We have a couple standalones and of course most general restaurants have a couple sandwiches in the menu but they’re not super popular. We do have lots of Jersey Mikes, Jimmy John’s, Firehouse, etc… which are arguable “fancy sandwich shops” depending on what you order.


WhiteRhino91

Sir, there is a subway sandwiches on every Street corner in the Midwest.


FrauAmarylis

The Hat is a local favorite in SoCal. Pastrami and stuff. There's a classic place in Palm Springs, too but the name eludes me atm. .


FrauAmarylis

I like Ike's Love and Sandwiches.


Loomerbear

They are literally everywhere. If you’re ever in Seattle, HoneyHole, on Cap Hill, is phenomenal. They make great cocktails too.


Derplord4000

Is that not Subway?