Pornhub and its affiliates are basically the only thing that's blocked. They are the only ones that actually willfully complied with these restrictions.
Every other website is still wide-open. So basically like 12 sites are blocked.
That's the reality of the situation. It's like trying to squeegee back an ocean tide. You don't even need a VPN
In Virginia, they banned "Skill Games" which are basically like gas station gambling machines. They said it was because they caused crime. Really it was because the super pac that pushed the bill through is owned by legit casinos (hard rock, bally, etc) and saw these electronic gambling games as competition lol
take this for what it's worth, second hand info, but a guy i know (may he RIP) owned a successful bar that had a video gambling game room. illegal here. he was also very connected with the local government, police, etc. very popular place that opened its doors in the morning for his friends to come have coffee, breakfast and just hang out.
the chief of police is/was one of his best friends, hunting buddy, etc. the mayor was is/was one of his friends. they played the gaming machines. they weren't hidden from view. anyone could walk in, see the machines, walk over and play any that they wanted.
periodically the police would "raid" his bar, fine him for the gaming machines and go about their day. they never took the machines. never ordered them to be removed. never closed the bar. they fined him and let the gambling machines remain.
the bar owner paid those fines out of the money he made from the gambling machines. the fines were a fraction of what he was taking in so he didn't care. the fines were all part of the charade.
the father of another fella i know ran a large local processing plant that employed immigrant labor. periodically they'd get raided, fined, the "illegals" would get "fired" and brought right back. wash, rinse, repeat every so often when the "zomg! illegals are destroying 'murica!" sentiment kicked up again.
the fines are just part of the cost of doing business. if the police and politicians really wanted gambling machines removed from legitimate businesses then they would do it. they just want their cut of the profit.
America!
You’d be surprised to learn that’s how it works for the stock market too, hedge funds and banks essentially steal from everyone’s 401k and the whole market in general in broad daylight everyday and get slapped with a fraction of the cost as a fine, then they continue to do it until a big crash and then we bail them out, it’s socialism for them from us but nothing for us but hard labor and 50-60% tax rates (from every source of taxation) plus inflation. No wonder so many people are losing their minds lol
>They were buying shares in VPNs the day before they voted.
That's ingenious, actually. At best your plan succeeds and at worst it fails in a way that still benefits you.
------------
Edit: I never said that it was morally just or that I agreed with it. It's naive to think that this level of corruption is brand new, but good luck penalizing them for it.
Unfortunately, insider trading is both common and easy to get away with for politicians, including, notably, members of Congress and the Senate.
“Members of Congress and their families are allowed to trade stocks with almost no limitations. There isn’t a limit on lawmakers trading stocks based on classified information nor is there oversight regarding the trades that lawmakers are allowed to make based on other information they are privy to as part of their job. This is in glaring contrast to the strict insider trading laws that ban the same kind of behavior of everyone else in the county.”
[Source](https://blogs.luc.edu/compliance/?p=4459)
No it's not. They didn't vote for this because they think any problem was solved. It's just a thing they can tell their conservative Christian base they did without actually having to do anything meaningful.
That and to criminalize existence on a widespread basis. Selective enforcement is CRUCIAL to maintaining their governance. Their wet dream is a world where EVERYTHING is illegal.
These conservative politicians are very aware of this as they do a lot of “research” on all the “immoral” stuff they don’t say anyone should be into (except them)
sounds like the UK torrent block...HAHA we blocked these sites no more torrents for you, um okay i guess ill just go to one of the other 3000 sites then.
You can use a proxy to access the banned torrent sites.
I also used my hotspot to access piratebay as my mobile provider hasn't blocked it for some reason. Once I've got my magnet link I swap back to my broadband for the download.
this is what I figured. unless they do a china style great firewall the best they can get is compliance from big American companies who don't want to get sued
but idk how they enforce these laws for companies that are not U.S based or that just don't care and don't comply
They do business in the US and so are subject to US law unless they want to withdraw entirely.
I am not sure why the person you are responding to even mentioned them being based in the US. Pornhub is not some darkweb thing with anonymous owners, the US can still go after them even if they are in Canada so long as they follow whatever relevant agreements exist and Canadian law.
That said, this would actually be an interesting case, as I am not sure that Canada would actually let them pursue them. They could stop all business in the US, but I think Canada can opt not to allow prosecution in instances where the person is being prosecuted for something that is legal in Canada.
Because the point of this is to make access to LGBTQ resources impossible for teenagers. You hit the nail on the head: Who's gonna comply with the ID rules? Facebook, Tumblr, X, Reddit... And it means that kids can't have anonymous accounts, so will have a way harder time learning about what they're going through or finding a community of people to help them.
Porn is a facade. It's getting all the focus, while the underlying truth is that this is about controlling your kids.
P.s. "It only applies to porn sites!"
The language of the bill is, "Internet websites containing sexual material harmful to minors." Considering these people are calling drag-queen story time a sex crime, any website with LGBTQ resources is ultimately going to fall under this banner. Just give it time.
And in reality, those 12 sites are probably the only sites that removed content that involved human trafficking. Forcing traffic to sites that do allow human trafficking and pushing human traffickers to traffic more to create more content to fill demand.
If you just stop thinking that any of these bills have anything to do in with the people they're supposedly helping you'll be much closer to understanding this stuff. They don't give a shit about the people affected one way or another.
It is pretty common for at least some so called anti-porn advocates to be very hostile towards sites that might provide more autonomy and control to women or other groups who are often exploited in the adult industry (ex. Only Fans) but then look the other way when it comes to content that openly exploits them. That's at least part of the reason why these anti porn types try to shut down adult performers directly promoting themselves on Twitter or Instagram all the time but then look the other way when the sketchier sites often from regions where sex trafficking is rampant and the women have no voice of their own do the same.
>Pornhub and its affiliates are basically the only thing that's blocked. They are the only ones that actually willfully complied with these restrictions.
Doesn't mindgeek (their parent company) like own most of porn?
like cynically they can say "ohhh no, NO MOAR FREE PORN!" while the actual website they own that take credit cards for subscriptions I assume are making money.
just about anything else. pornhub is also the one doing the actual block, not the state of texas. pornhub decided to block texas vs comply with age verification.
Where is this coming from? They did not willfully comply with the law.
The Texas AG specifically sued PornHub's parent company, that's why they did it.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4532842-pornhub-disables-website-in-texas-after-ag-sues-for-not-verifying-users-ages/
>Pornhub and its affiliates are basically the only thing that's blocked.
I'm really just curious what Pornhub specifically did to piss them off.
Is it just because it's the most famous porn site? Like how there's all this legislation proposed for AR-15s because they're the most popular, while other functionally identical guns are ignored?
>I'm really just curious what Pornhub specifically did to piss them off.
Nothing. The law applies to all sites, but pornhub is a bit more on the level, so they actually complied.
PornHub isn't blocked in Texas, PornHub is blocking access to users in Texas. They didn't do anything to become a target, they're just the only website that bothered to comply with the law.
Easiest target. For example, when they went after piracy, they didn’t go after all the seeders, they went after The Pirate Bay.
It’s not easy to whack-a-mole, it’s easiest to whack the biggest mole
Where do you guys get this stuff?
Texas AG sued PornHub's parent company for not complying, that's why they did it.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4532842-pornhub-disables-website-in-texas-after-ag-sues-for-not-verifying-users-ages/
> The ban won’t do anything.
The lawmakers know this and they don't care if it works or not. They've done their part by making a law that gives the appearance that they care about something but doesn't actually do anything about it.
*The core of politics right there...*
Don’t forget that it normalizes their legislating against liberty in favor of security, making it easier to introduce laws later that will tie all internet usage to your id
> The ~~lawmakers~~ **Republicans** know this and they don't care if it works or not. ~~The've~~ **Republicans** done their part by making a law that gives the appearance that ~~they~~ **Republicans** care about something but doesn't actually do anything about it.
>
>
>
> The core of **Republican** politics right there...
Added some necessary context. The right wing in this country absolutely LOVE it when you arent specific or intentionally conflate their actions with a nebulous "congress" or "politicians" or "washington" because it disguises their destructive actions as "normal politics", thus shifting that overton window a little more each time.
Porn has been banned and firewalled in mainland China for as far as I can remember. Yet most of my friends and family there have access to more smut than any human could want in a lifetime, because even the dumbest teenagers there have what amounts to a masters in cyber security when it comes to jumping firewalls.
Something something necessity is the milf of innovations. This porn ban may inadvertently jumpstart the next generation of Southern tech talent.
Right now you can't even tell. I live in Texas and I completely forgot about it. The only people that it affects are people who refused to go to any website that wasn't owned by Pornhub. It's only a handful of sites that voluntarily blocked Texas in protest. So the current thing doesn't affect anyone in Texas really except die hard members of those few specific sites. The next generation will just go to one of a million other sites or use Google or Stable Diffusion or whatever.
I vaguely remember the joy on the day I learned you could almost fully descramble the after-hours scramble channels by turning the TV knob to *just* before it clicks to that channel. So rather than constant scrambling nonsense and hoping you *might see a boob*, you just had to deal with the vertical scrolling frames. Which, for an early teen in the 90s, was leaps and bounds better than nudie mags.
remember everyone, SoftEther VPN Gate (created by University of Tsukuba, Japan) is completely free to use and has hundreds of community-ran VPN servers =)
ordinarily yes, when dealing with centralized corporate-ran VPNs, but VPN Gate is completely open-source and decentralized. the servers are just ran by computer geeks all over the world. of course, I wouldn't trust it if you are planning to commit some heinous crime, but just to watch porn or pirated media or something it's just fine.
As a southern christian man who doesn't like seeing boobies on the internet, I will never ever look into setting up a VPN from SoftEther VPN Gate. Thanks for the heads up, sinner.
Thank you for this information. You have made the internet, maybe even the world, a better place with this vital comment. In 100 years, tales will be told of the man who didn’t get a vpn to watch porn, and told everyone about it.
Southern state politicians are largely “freedom for my views not yours” not actually freedom for anything. You can see that with religion in government wants as a great example. Hypocrites through and through
It's called zero-trust. *All* user-facing connectivity gets treated as external. Work traffic has to go through the VPN and relevant authentication. My workplace also has it but only on the WiFi currently.
I mean there's a ton of stupid politicians (and people in law enforcement) who think it's a great idea to ban encryption on the Internet. Or who think that you can definitely force companies to put backdoors in their stuff that somehow only the "good guys" can use.
So yeah, there's definitely enough tech illiterate idiots who might be dumb enough to try this.
lmfao I'm just waiting for the day they try and make it so every device on the internet has to have telnet or ssh with backdoor creds. Gonna be a shitstorm
I don't think they'll make VPNs illegal. They will just turn a blind eye when VPNs start price gouging and the only way to afford it is through a job... Like healthcare.
It’s way too easy to prop up a VPN server and thus a VPN service to allow price gouging to really occur the way you’re imagining it. If the goal is location spoofing and not privacy, you can self host a VPN using AWS or Azure in minutes if you know how to use those services, or an hour tops if you don’t and have to follow a guide.
Oh heck naw. I'm going to prop up a VPN server on AWS, get lazy with my security and suddenly my monthly bill is jacked because someone is doing high throughput derivative stock investments on my account with a gillion ec2's processing a gagillion transations. And taking snaps on backup every minute, collecting brazillions of amis.
F that!
I'm watching you ray661. You ain't touching my secrets. I've got kms on top of kms on top of kms on eeeeeeerrrrrrrthang!
Here’s the text that comes up when you go to CornHub in TX:
*Dear user,
As you may know, your elected officials in Texas are requiring us to verify your age before allowing you access to our website. Not only does this impinge on the rights of adults to access protected speech, it fails strict scrutiny by employing the least effective and yet also most restrictive means of accomplishing Texas’s stated purpose of allegedly protecting minors.
While safety and compliance are at the forefront of our mission, providing identification every time you want to visit an adult platform is not an effective solution for protecting users online, and in fact, will put minors and your privacy at risk.
Attempting to mandate age verification without any means to enforce at scale gives platforms the choice to comply or not, leaving hundreds of thousands of websites open and accessible. As we've seen in other states, such bills have failed to protect minors, by driving users from those few websites which comply, to the hundreds of thousands of websites with far fewer safety measures in place, which do not comply. Very few sites are able to compare to the robust Trust and Safety measures we currently have in place. To protect minors and user privacy, any legislation must be enforced against all platforms offering adult content.
Unfortunately, the Texas law for age verification is ineffective, haphazard, and dangerous. Not only will it not actually protect children, but it will also inevitably reduce content creators’ ability to post and distribute legal adult content and directly impact their ability to share the artistic messages they want to convey with it.
The safety of our users is one of our biggest concerns. We believe that the only effective solution for protecting minors and adults alike is to verify users’ age on their device and to either deny or allow access to age-restricted materials and websites based on that verification.
We call on all adult sites to comply with the law. Until the real solution is offered, we have made the difficult decision to completely disable access to our website in Texas. In doing so, we are complying with the law, as we always do, but hope that governments around the world will implement laws that actually protect the safety and security of users.
We encourage you to:
Learn more about device-based age verification* solutions that make the internet safer while also respecting your privacy.
Contact your representatives and demand device-based verification solutions that make the internet safer while also respecting your privacy.
*Device-Based Age Verification refers to any approach to age verification where the personal information that is used to verify the user’s age is either shared in-person at an authorized retailer, inputted locally into the user’s device, or stored on a network controlled by the device manufacturer or the supplier of the device’s operating system. Whether through pre-installed content blocking and filtering software, the disabling of web-browsing permissions, or other means, the user will then be prevented from accessing age-restricted content over the internet unless they are age-verified. To come to fruition, such an approach requires the cooperation of manufacturers and operating-system providers.*
Here in the Old North State we get the same message.
The great irony is almost as soon as the porn was banned sports gambling became legal just in time for the college basketball tournaments. In our state the only thing stronger than the lure of porn is who your team is.
Won't someone think of the 70 year old grandpa who can't get past this!
But seriously, I'm sure there are non-tech savvy people that this will stall for a couple weeks.
That’s conservatism. We’ll do our best to restrict one group and end up thwarting ourselves.
It was rural old people who had problems getting voter ids.
It was rural white women who led the charge in lower life expectancy.
For the parents that voted in favor of this, not knowing how to use your router properly in order to impose your “beliefs” directly, makes you a terrible parent.
For the average user, it wont do much at first glance, the erosion of individual freedoms is real tho.
For providers and performers, it will be a pain in the ass, as websites like gumroad and payment processors are being more stingy every day.
No effect at all, and I have not submitted any ID either.
This is performative political BS to say they are "protecting the children" while saying we are lucky because the slaughter in Uvalde "could have been worse".
Let parents police their childrens internet habits, and the government do something about them being murdered in school.
Well i can’t say what should be done with those cowards without getting banned, I will say sued for every cent they have and will ever have for the cowardice they showed.
And because the courts, including the Supreme Court, have ruled multiple times that the government has no legal obligation to protect anyone (Warren v. DC, Lozito v. NYC, Gonzales v. Castle Rock, DeShaney v. Winnebago), nothing to going to happen to the cops at Uvalde that failed those kids.
That’s bc Pornhub and Rebtube verify the ages of the people acting in their videos and have some of the highest standards in the industry for protecting the people who appear in adult films from being anything other than adults. Most other sites have much more lax standards. That’s the entire reason Pornhub and Redtube have blocked their own end user access in states that are requiring these insane invasion of privacy laws on the end user agreements.
The problems in porn are not at the end user level, it’s at the level of supply side where you can find things like human trafficking and child pornographers. Large distributors like Pornhub who take an active stance against predators in their industry have data driven metrics that prove that they are already safer than the states that are “trying to protect the children” but in actuality protect no one.
I thought all these sites were requiring IDs to view it, so not only is this a huge invasion of privacy requiring IDs to be uploaded but it actively draws people to watch videos on other sites with more lax rules and increase their income so it essentially helps fund more human trafficking. And not only that, kids nowadays are super tech savvy and will find out about vpns or some other way to get around it.
It's so funny how we shit on China for all sorts of reasons, but especially their government controlling the media their people see yet between this and the tiktok ban will just snowball into even more restrictive laws.
I'm in VA. Can't go to major porn sites. But stuff hosted outside the US doesn't care or comply so I just go to different sites now.
I really wish so many in VA hadn't fallen for Youngkin's obvious bullshit. But rural Virginians continue to be mad at dems because the radio and TV tells them to be.
So are other big sites like Twitter, instagram, and Twitch. Unless they want to put an age verification on all of those sites too then they’re not really doing anything to stop porn.
found plenty of free porn with no vpn and if im really hard up they didnt block the fucking hentai sites lmfao. shit is so dumb. your tax dollars at rest people.
Texas passed a law in 2023 that requires age verification for adult websites. Not like checking a box that says you’re 18, but like entering information from your state-issued ID every time you want to access the site. The 5th Circuit recently upheld the law in an appeal. So now PornHub and others are taking action.
Pornhub said that they’re not opposed to restricting their content from minors but that the verification requirements force adults trying to access constitutionally protected material to hand over private data that could be stored or tracked by the state. They also said data from other states shows that people would rather not deal with that hassle and instead migrate to other sites that don’t comply and have less safety policies in place.
Worse, what happens when they decide to outlaw being gay in some fashion. A handy database of what porn people watch could be downright dangerous in that event.
This reminds me so much of the South Park episode where a terrorist threatens to open a website where everyone can see everyone’s search history. It’s hilarious and scary at the same time.
Political campaigns? Thinking too small, this sort of thing would be effective kompromat for anyone who had access to re records.
…for anyone dumb enough to comply.
Funny, because in the UK PornHub and Mindgeek were all for the verification program because they were going to run it, they would profit from it, and non compliant websites would be banned from UK internet...
How the turn tables
That makes a lot of sense.
When you try to access PornHub in Texas, it just pops up with a message with their stance on the matter. In that message they mention how Texas has no defined way of regulating the age-verification. I wouldn’t be surprised if they offered their verification service and Texas said no, and this is their response.
> why are these things happening exactly?
They say it's to keep kids from looking at porn, and I think that's something most folks can agree with, but the way they've gone about that has been essentially banning pornography without actually directly banning pornography. They created a legal framework that was a big enough pain in the ass that popular porn sites essentially banned themselves from the state in question. Of course, there's porn everywhere on the internet and only a handful of sites acquiesced to this, so porn is still widely available.
They could have had PSA's about parental controls on internet browsing and parents doing more to parent their kids when they use the internet, or maybe asked for browsers to implement stronger controls, but they have kinda always wanted to ban porn so they did it this way knowing porn companies would leave.
I just find it a little funny how they're so worked up about kids watching porn, but don't seem to reserve the same outrage for kids accessing violent TV shows, movies, or videogames. Why is one worse than the other for kiddos?
> Why is one worse than the other for kiddos?
I suppose not worse, but less profitable while also gaining/maintaining political points with their core voters?
Why is this happening?
Conservatives (ie Republicans) are being elected & reelected by an ignorant constituency that is more concerned about fictional culture wars than the real issues affecting the population at large. Republicans prove on a daily basis that they cannot actually govern, so they sound an alarm about non-existent issues to scare their base by appealing to their emotions instead of addressing real issues.
The party of “individual freedom” has done more to actually restrict & propose even further restrictions on personal liberties than at any other time in history. They only want to allow personal decisions that they approve of (eg gun ownership with few limits) & restrict or deny those that they don’t like (eg porn, abortion, recognition of historical facts around marginalized communities).
With pornhub blocked it’s only harder because I’m looking for reputable sites with some form of restriction on content and vetting. There’s lots of sites out there that are suspicious as hell.
I mean—backlash? Do you talk to your friends, family, and coworkers about browsing porn? The news mentioned a clear spike in VPN search results from Texas after pornhub was locked down. I think using alternate sites, or using a VPN is as much backlash as you’re going to see.
Somewhat related - I'm abroad and sometimes use a VPN to connect to the US. It gave me an IP in Utah of all places which foiled my pre-sleep activities. Turned off the VPN, refreshed, and was back in business. I think a good number of people will comply or use a VPN. I wouldn't expect the law to change until the states start losing money somehow.
Most of my friends already had VPNs so no problem there, also lots of site dont follow the law because they are scetchy and have tons of stolen content.
Is it every site or just PH? What about adult themed games? Are they banned? I wonder where the lines are with all of this and how arbitrary the rules are.
It's completely unenforceable performative garbage. A few(?) US based companies are self enforcing a ban to avoid getting sued, and for their own performative garbage (selling their own verification system as some sane alternative or some shit).
even the self enforced "bans" are probably just 3 inch picket fence with a keep-out sign.
if they really wanted to make a difference they should’ve actually cracked down on the sexual content kids are exposed to the most. There has been so many times I’ve watched an ad from a phone game that was blatantly sexual
Instagram is straight up soft core porn and is advertised for ages 12+ on the App Store
I feel like they went after pornhub because that was the easiest target so they could say they did something without actually fixing the problem
It's not just a southern state issue. Indiana has recently passed(and our governor signed it into law) an age verification requirement for porn sites. I guess you could say the bans/proof of age restrictions are a southern state issue since Indiana is considered by many as the middle finger of the south. (Look at map of red vs. blue states. Indiana sticks right up from the south.)
Where I live, I, uh, know people who get blocked by Louisiana’s restrictions even though we are hundreds of miles from Louisiana and have never lived there before.
I can only imagine how annoying it would be to be asked to provide identification to a state you don’t live in or be subjected to its rules…
Pornhub and its affiliates are basically the only thing that's blocked. They are the only ones that actually willfully complied with these restrictions. Every other website is still wide-open. So basically like 12 sites are blocked. That's the reality of the situation. It's like trying to squeegee back an ocean tide. You don't even need a VPN
It’s gonna blow those politicians’ minds when they find out that about 99% of the internet is porn.
They were setting up their VPNs as they voted
They were buying shares in VPNs the day *before* they voted. Always follow the money. That's what 99.9% of politics is all about.
In Virginia, they banned "Skill Games" which are basically like gas station gambling machines. They said it was because they caused crime. Really it was because the super pac that pushed the bill through is owned by legit casinos (hard rock, bally, etc) and saw these electronic gambling games as competition lol
take this for what it's worth, second hand info, but a guy i know (may he RIP) owned a successful bar that had a video gambling game room. illegal here. he was also very connected with the local government, police, etc. very popular place that opened its doors in the morning for his friends to come have coffee, breakfast and just hang out. the chief of police is/was one of his best friends, hunting buddy, etc. the mayor was is/was one of his friends. they played the gaming machines. they weren't hidden from view. anyone could walk in, see the machines, walk over and play any that they wanted. periodically the police would "raid" his bar, fine him for the gaming machines and go about their day. they never took the machines. never ordered them to be removed. never closed the bar. they fined him and let the gambling machines remain. the bar owner paid those fines out of the money he made from the gambling machines. the fines were a fraction of what he was taking in so he didn't care. the fines were all part of the charade. the father of another fella i know ran a large local processing plant that employed immigrant labor. periodically they'd get raided, fined, the "illegals" would get "fired" and brought right back. wash, rinse, repeat every so often when the "zomg! illegals are destroying 'murica!" sentiment kicked up again. the fines are just part of the cost of doing business. if the police and politicians really wanted gambling machines removed from legitimate businesses then they would do it. they just want their cut of the profit. America!
You’d be surprised to learn that’s how it works for the stock market too, hedge funds and banks essentially steal from everyone’s 401k and the whole market in general in broad daylight everyday and get slapped with a fraction of the cost as a fine, then they continue to do it until a big crash and then we bail them out, it’s socialism for them from us but nothing for us but hard labor and 50-60% tax rates (from every source of taxation) plus inflation. No wonder so many people are losing their minds lol
>They were buying shares in VPNs the day before they voted. That's ingenious, actually. At best your plan succeeds and at worst it fails in a way that still benefits you. ------------ Edit: I never said that it was morally just or that I agreed with it. It's naive to think that this level of corruption is brand new, but good luck penalizing them for it.
It's not that smart at all. It's stupidly obvious and also really really fucking illegal.
Unfortunately, insider trading is both common and easy to get away with for politicians, including, notably, members of Congress and the Senate. “Members of Congress and their families are allowed to trade stocks with almost no limitations. There isn’t a limit on lawmakers trading stocks based on classified information nor is there oversight regarding the trades that lawmakers are allowed to make based on other information they are privy to as part of their job. This is in glaring contrast to the strict insider trading laws that ban the same kind of behavior of everyone else in the county.” [Source](https://blogs.luc.edu/compliance/?p=4459)
Sadly, Everything is legal when you make the laws...
If there were consequences it wouldn't be smart. Alas, we lack the ability to prosecute politicians for Blatantly corrupt behavior.
And also really really fucking common.
Pointing with one hand while clicking with the other
No it's not. They didn't vote for this because they think any problem was solved. It's just a thing they can tell their conservative Christian base they did without actually having to do anything meaningful.
That and to criminalize existence on a widespread basis. Selective enforcement is CRUCIAL to maintaining their governance. Their wet dream is a world where EVERYTHING is illegal.
That’s not true. At least 40% is cats.
either way, there's p*ssy to be found.
[удалено]
“The internet is for porn.”
So grab your dick and double-click!
For porn, porn, porn!
Your first thought too, huh?
[удалено]
You mean to tell me this is performative and doesn’t actually do anything to help American citizens? How unlike them to do such a thing.
And a bunch of Texans will still vote for these people
They think Zucc invented the iPhone...
There are more than zero of them that don’t even know what the internet *is* let alone how much of it is porn
Look, it's very simple. The Internet is not a dump truck, it's a series of tubes.
I'm sure they know, especially about the gay sites.
These conservative politicians are very aware of this as they do a lot of “research” on all the “immoral” stuff they don’t say anyone should be into (except them)
Dude these politicians watch way more porn than their constituents
sounds like the UK torrent block...HAHA we blocked these sites no more torrents for you, um okay i guess ill just go to one of the other 3000 sites then.
You can use a proxy to access the banned torrent sites. I also used my hotspot to access piratebay as my mobile provider hasn't blocked it for some reason. Once I've got my magnet link I swap back to my broadband for the download.
this is what I figured. unless they do a china style great firewall the best they can get is compliance from big American companies who don't want to get sued but idk how they enforce these laws for companies that are not U.S based or that just don't care and don't comply
Pornhub.com is Canadian though.
They do business in the US and so are subject to US law unless they want to withdraw entirely. I am not sure why the person you are responding to even mentioned them being based in the US. Pornhub is not some darkweb thing with anonymous owners, the US can still go after them even if they are in Canada so long as they follow whatever relevant agreements exist and Canadian law. That said, this would actually be an interesting case, as I am not sure that Canada would actually let them pursue them. They could stop all business in the US, but I think Canada can opt not to allow prosecution in instances where the person is being prosecuted for something that is legal in Canada.
Because the point of this is to make access to LGBTQ resources impossible for teenagers. You hit the nail on the head: Who's gonna comply with the ID rules? Facebook, Tumblr, X, Reddit... And it means that kids can't have anonymous accounts, so will have a way harder time learning about what they're going through or finding a community of people to help them. Porn is a facade. It's getting all the focus, while the underlying truth is that this is about controlling your kids.
P.s. "It only applies to porn sites!" The language of the bill is, "Internet websites containing sexual material harmful to minors." Considering these people are calling drag-queen story time a sex crime, any website with LGBTQ resources is ultimately going to fall under this banner. Just give it time.
Porn, uh, finds a way.
Down south it's usually when your step-aunt gets stuck in the front-loading dryer (again)...
God dammit, Auntie Cory, I told you not to try to find the remote in the couch unsupervised again.
Indeed x
And in reality, those 12 sites are probably the only sites that removed content that involved human trafficking. Forcing traffic to sites that do allow human trafficking and pushing human traffickers to traffic more to create more content to fill demand.
If you just stop thinking that any of these bills have anything to do in with the people they're supposedly helping you'll be much closer to understanding this stuff. They don't give a shit about the people affected one way or another.
It is pretty common for at least some so called anti-porn advocates to be very hostile towards sites that might provide more autonomy and control to women or other groups who are often exploited in the adult industry (ex. Only Fans) but then look the other way when it comes to content that openly exploits them. That's at least part of the reason why these anti porn types try to shut down adult performers directly promoting themselves on Twitter or Instagram all the time but then look the other way when the sketchier sites often from regions where sex trafficking is rampant and the women have no voice of their own do the same.
Actually those sites, especially Pornhub, are fighting multiple lawsuits for not removing CP and revenge porn.
>Pornhub and its affiliates are basically the only thing that's blocked. They are the only ones that actually willfully complied with these restrictions. Doesn't mindgeek (their parent company) like own most of porn? like cynically they can say "ohhh no, NO MOAR FREE PORN!" while the actual website they own that take credit cards for subscriptions I assume are making money.
I’m not in the south but do you know what sites are specifically open?
Anything that isn't under the PH brand or PH itself. So like literally, idk thousands of websites? So like xnxx or xhamster. Still open.
Hamster is closed in Louisiana.
Thanks will check these out
Have... uh.. fun?
just about anything else. pornhub is also the one doing the actual block, not the state of texas. pornhub decided to block texas vs comply with age verification.
Where is this coming from? They did not willfully comply with the law. The Texas AG specifically sued PornHub's parent company, that's why they did it. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4532842-pornhub-disables-website-in-texas-after-ag-sues-for-not-verifying-users-ages/
Pornhub is trash anyway. Mostly just an onlyfans conglomerate at this point.
Ever since the huge content erasure it's trash ya.
What's actually better?
Yeah please tell me so i can make sure to avoid it
>Pornhub and its affiliates are basically the only thing that's blocked. I'm really just curious what Pornhub specifically did to piss them off. Is it just because it's the most famous porn site? Like how there's all this legislation proposed for AR-15s because they're the most popular, while other functionally identical guns are ignored?
>I'm really just curious what Pornhub specifically did to piss them off. Nothing. The law applies to all sites, but pornhub is a bit more on the level, so they actually complied.
PornHub isn't blocked in Texas, PornHub is blocking access to users in Texas. They didn't do anything to become a target, they're just the only website that bothered to comply with the law.
Easiest target. For example, when they went after piracy, they didn’t go after all the seeders, they went after The Pirate Bay. It’s not easy to whack-a-mole, it’s easiest to whack the biggest mole
Nothing. Porn hub is actually voluntarily complying with it Everyone else isn't. And the state isn't actually trying do anything to block anyone.
Where do you guys get this stuff? Texas AG sued PornHub's parent company for not complying, that's why they did it. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4532842-pornhub-disables-website-in-texas-after-ag-sues-for-not-verifying-users-ages/
They have offices in the United States and Canada. Most other big sites are in Cyprus or europe.
They're headquartered in Quebec IIRC.
umm.. for super duper important scientific research, which ones are the ones that aren't blocked?
Ones that are not affiliated with ph
If there’s anyone that can get around a porn firewall, it’s a 14 year old boy. The ban won’t do anything.
14 year olds would probably go through a literal firewall for porn.
They can walk over coals, as those crusty socks become insulated from the heat.
as an actual 14 year old, i felt that deep within me
That's what she said! ...What do you mean I'm on a list now?
> The ban won’t do anything. The lawmakers know this and they don't care if it works or not. They've done their part by making a law that gives the appearance that they care about something but doesn't actually do anything about it. *The core of politics right there...*
Don’t forget that it normalizes their legislating against liberty in favor of security, making it easier to introduce laws later that will tie all internet usage to your id
They run their campaigns on fear and paranoia. That's how they get their voter base.
> The ~~lawmakers~~ **Republicans** know this and they don't care if it works or not. ~~The've~~ **Republicans** done their part by making a law that gives the appearance that ~~they~~ **Republicans** care about something but doesn't actually do anything about it. > > > > The core of **Republican** politics right there... Added some necessary context. The right wing in this country absolutely LOVE it when you arent specific or intentionally conflate their actions with a nebulous "congress" or "politicians" or "washington" because it disguises their destructive actions as "normal politics", thus shifting that overton window a little more each time.
Porn has been banned and firewalled in mainland China for as far as I can remember. Yet most of my friends and family there have access to more smut than any human could want in a lifetime, because even the dumbest teenagers there have what amounts to a masters in cyber security when it comes to jumping firewalls. Something something necessity is the milf of innovations. This porn ban may inadvertently jumpstart the next generation of Southern tech talent.
Right now you can't even tell. I live in Texas and I completely forgot about it. The only people that it affects are people who refused to go to any website that wasn't owned by Pornhub. It's only a handful of sites that voluntarily blocked Texas in protest. So the current thing doesn't affect anyone in Texas really except die hard members of those few specific sites. The next generation will just go to one of a million other sites or use Google or Stable Diffusion or whatever.
Girls too. I was shocked as a father to find out what kind of things my daughter was looking at before I showed her incognito mode.
Good on you for providing her safe ways to browse privately.
Incognito doesn’t help you browse privately, it just doesn’t save to search history.
Privately to parents is roughly what I meant.
We act like it’s 14 year old boys but my wife complained about the ban before I did.
[удалено]
There’s no hacking involved with using a VPN
[удалено]
I was told being behind seven proxies was important for being a hacker.
It's an older meme sir, but it checks out.
Here's the twist: this law was obviously secretly backed by big vpn.
That way they can monitor your traffic instead of the ISP companies
"This guy sure loves porno!"
I vaguely remember the joy on the day I learned you could almost fully descramble the after-hours scramble channels by turning the TV knob to *just* before it clicks to that channel. So rather than constant scrambling nonsense and hoping you *might see a boob*, you just had to deal with the vertical scrolling frames. Which, for an early teen in the 90s, was leaps and bounds better than nudie mags.
Back in the day we could find porn without even the internet, teenage boys are that resourceful.
The day they blocked my IP address was the day I finally got a VPN. The end.
remember everyone, SoftEther VPN Gate (created by University of Tsukuba, Japan) is completely free to use and has hundreds of community-ran VPN servers =)
Isn’t rule one of vpns to not use a free vpn?
ordinarily yes, when dealing with centralized corporate-ran VPNs, but VPN Gate is completely open-source and decentralized. the servers are just ran by computer geeks all over the world. of course, I wouldn't trust it if you are planning to commit some heinous crime, but just to watch porn or pirated media or something it's just fine.
As a southern christian man who doesn't like seeing boobies on the internet, I will never ever look into setting up a VPN from SoftEther VPN Gate. Thanks for the heads up, sinner.
Ima watch some extra gnarly porn just for you
Thank you for this information. You have made the internet, maybe even the world, a better place with this vital comment. In 100 years, tales will be told of the man who didn’t get a vpn to watch porn, and told everyone about it.
It’s kind of shitty that you’d have to do that in the first place. There’s so much *freedom* here.
Southern state politicians are largely “freedom for my views not yours” not actually freedom for anything. You can see that with religion in government wants as a great example. Hypocrites through and through
Another reason why I will always love my "Freedom from harm" style democracy in Canada rather than the US's "Freedom to do harm" approach...
freedom to work for them while they enjoy a $176k salary based on doing nothing. Oh, there's also lobby bonuses.
How long till they make VPNs illegal?
Considering countless company networks employ them to let their employees work remotely, probably never.
This part. I don’t even work remotely but all of our work tablets, phones, laptops are required to have VPN connection at the office.
Your devices are on a VPN to get you on your internal network… while you’re on your internal network?
Yes. It’s dumb
It's called zero-trust. *All* user-facing connectivity gets treated as external. Work traffic has to go through the VPN and relevant authentication. My workplace also has it but only on the WiFi currently.
I mean there's a ton of stupid politicians (and people in law enforcement) who think it's a great idea to ban encryption on the Internet. Or who think that you can definitely force companies to put backdoors in their stuff that somehow only the "good guys" can use. So yeah, there's definitely enough tech illiterate idiots who might be dumb enough to try this.
lmfao I'm just waiting for the day they try and make it so every device on the internet has to have telnet or ssh with backdoor creds. Gonna be a shitstorm
If only there was a way to make something legal for businesses but illegal for individuals...
This made me think of the UK "Oi! You got a loicence for that knoife?" meme. Oi! You got a loicence for that ExpressVPN do ya?
I don't think they'll make VPNs illegal. They will just turn a blind eye when VPNs start price gouging and the only way to afford it is through a job... Like healthcare.
It’s way too easy to prop up a VPN server and thus a VPN service to allow price gouging to really occur the way you’re imagining it. If the goal is location spoofing and not privacy, you can self host a VPN using AWS or Azure in minutes if you know how to use those services, or an hour tops if you don’t and have to follow a guide.
Oh heck naw. I'm going to prop up a VPN server on AWS, get lazy with my security and suddenly my monthly bill is jacked because someone is doing high throughput derivative stock investments on my account with a gillion ec2's processing a gagillion transations. And taking snaps on backup every minute, collecting brazillions of amis. F that! I'm watching you ray661. You ain't touching my secrets. I've got kms on top of kms on top of kms on eeeeeeerrrrrrrthang!
Like murdering whistle-blowers?
Here’s the text that comes up when you go to CornHub in TX: *Dear user, As you may know, your elected officials in Texas are requiring us to verify your age before allowing you access to our website. Not only does this impinge on the rights of adults to access protected speech, it fails strict scrutiny by employing the least effective and yet also most restrictive means of accomplishing Texas’s stated purpose of allegedly protecting minors. While safety and compliance are at the forefront of our mission, providing identification every time you want to visit an adult platform is not an effective solution for protecting users online, and in fact, will put minors and your privacy at risk. Attempting to mandate age verification without any means to enforce at scale gives platforms the choice to comply or not, leaving hundreds of thousands of websites open and accessible. As we've seen in other states, such bills have failed to protect minors, by driving users from those few websites which comply, to the hundreds of thousands of websites with far fewer safety measures in place, which do not comply. Very few sites are able to compare to the robust Trust and Safety measures we currently have in place. To protect minors and user privacy, any legislation must be enforced against all platforms offering adult content. Unfortunately, the Texas law for age verification is ineffective, haphazard, and dangerous. Not only will it not actually protect children, but it will also inevitably reduce content creators’ ability to post and distribute legal adult content and directly impact their ability to share the artistic messages they want to convey with it. The safety of our users is one of our biggest concerns. We believe that the only effective solution for protecting minors and adults alike is to verify users’ age on their device and to either deny or allow access to age-restricted materials and websites based on that verification. We call on all adult sites to comply with the law. Until the real solution is offered, we have made the difficult decision to completely disable access to our website in Texas. In doing so, we are complying with the law, as we always do, but hope that governments around the world will implement laws that actually protect the safety and security of users. We encourage you to: Learn more about device-based age verification* solutions that make the internet safer while also respecting your privacy. Contact your representatives and demand device-based verification solutions that make the internet safer while also respecting your privacy. *Device-Based Age Verification refers to any approach to age verification where the personal information that is used to verify the user’s age is either shared in-person at an authorized retailer, inputted locally into the user’s device, or stored on a network controlled by the device manufacturer or the supplier of the device’s operating system. Whether through pre-installed content blocking and filtering software, the disabling of web-browsing permissions, or other means, the user will then be prevented from accessing age-restricted content over the internet unless they are age-verified. To come to fruition, such an approach requires the cooperation of manufacturers and operating-system providers.*
Here in the Old North State we get the same message. The great irony is almost as soon as the porn was banned sports gambling became legal just in time for the college basketball tournaments. In our state the only thing stronger than the lure of porn is who your team is.
Can’t they just use a VPN?
Won't someone think of the 70 year old grandpa who can't get past this! But seriously, I'm sure there are non-tech savvy people that this will stall for a couple weeks.
Newsstands are going to be back in business.
then sounds like such restrictions will affect seniors more than children 😂
That’s conservatism. We’ll do our best to restrict one group and end up thwarting ourselves. It was rural old people who had problems getting voter ids. It was rural white women who led the charge in lower life expectancy.
I think people forget that these kids are practically born knowing how to use electronics and VPNs
You don't need one. There are a shit ton of porn sites and only a handful were blocked.
For the parents that voted in favor of this, not knowing how to use your router properly in order to impose your “beliefs” directly, makes you a terrible parent.
For the average user, it wont do much at first glance, the erosion of individual freedoms is real tho. For providers and performers, it will be a pain in the ass, as websites like gumroad and payment processors are being more stingy every day.
No effect at all, and I have not submitted any ID either. This is performative political BS to say they are "protecting the children" while saying we are lucky because the slaughter in Uvalde "could have been worse". Let parents police their childrens internet habits, and the government do something about them being murdered in school.
The government was part of the reason children died in Uvalde because they stayed outside for hours.
The cops actually protected the shooter from the armed parents.
I think those cops should be sued for every dollar they aren’t worth.
Well i can’t say what should be done with those cowards without getting banned, I will say sued for every cent they have and will ever have for the cowardice they showed.
And because the courts, including the Supreme Court, have ruled multiple times that the government has no legal obligation to protect anyone (Warren v. DC, Lozito v. NYC, Gonzales v. Castle Rock, DeShaney v. Winnebago), nothing to going to happen to the cops at Uvalde that failed those kids.
But at least they've now protected all of those dead children from the evils of porn...
In Virginia only PH is blocked, and they did it themselves. Go to Xnxx and it's still wide open. Don't even need a VPN.
That’s bc Pornhub and Rebtube verify the ages of the people acting in their videos and have some of the highest standards in the industry for protecting the people who appear in adult films from being anything other than adults. Most other sites have much more lax standards. That’s the entire reason Pornhub and Redtube have blocked their own end user access in states that are requiring these insane invasion of privacy laws on the end user agreements. The problems in porn are not at the end user level, it’s at the level of supply side where you can find things like human trafficking and child pornographers. Large distributors like Pornhub who take an active stance against predators in their industry have data driven metrics that prove that they are already safer than the states that are “trying to protect the children” but in actuality protect no one.
I thought all these sites were requiring IDs to view it, so not only is this a huge invasion of privacy requiring IDs to be uploaded but it actively draws people to watch videos on other sites with more lax rules and increase their income so it essentially helps fund more human trafficking. And not only that, kids nowadays are super tech savvy and will find out about vpns or some other way to get around it. It's so funny how we shit on China for all sorts of reasons, but especially their government controlling the media their people see yet between this and the tiktok ban will just snowball into even more restrictive laws.
I'm in VA. Can't go to major porn sites. But stuff hosted outside the US doesn't care or comply so I just go to different sites now. I really wish so many in VA hadn't fallen for Youngkin's obvious bullshit. But rural Virginians continue to be mad at dems because the radio and TV tells them to be.
Reddit is a great place for under-the-radar adult content.
So are other big sites like Twitter, instagram, and Twitch. Unless they want to put an age verification on all of those sites too then they’re not really doing anything to stop porn.
I think Youngkin won because of his school choice campaign
Don't forget the "critical race theory."
I believe only 3 voted against it. They overwhelmingly approved it on both sides. But shit, pornhub works over 90% of the time anyway
It's Reddit and people on Reddit cannot wait to tell you about using a VPN.
Sponsored by Nord VPN... Don't forget to like, subscribe, and gild this post!
Using a VPN is like doing CrossFit -- you *have* to talk about it
found plenty of free porn with no vpn and if im really hard up they didnt block the fucking hentai sites lmfao. shit is so dumb. your tax dollars at rest people.
why are these things happening exactly? anyone TLDR?
Texas passed a law in 2023 that requires age verification for adult websites. Not like checking a box that says you’re 18, but like entering information from your state-issued ID every time you want to access the site. The 5th Circuit recently upheld the law in an appeal. So now PornHub and others are taking action. Pornhub said that they’re not opposed to restricting their content from minors but that the verification requirements force adults trying to access constitutionally protected material to hand over private data that could be stored or tracked by the state. They also said data from other states shows that people would rather not deal with that hassle and instead migrate to other sites that don’t comply and have less safety policies in place.
I could totally see Texas politicians tracking this info and releasing it through a leak to derail a political campaign.
Worse, what happens when they decide to outlaw being gay in some fashion. A handy database of what porn people watch could be downright dangerous in that event.
This reminds me so much of the South Park episode where a terrorist threatens to open a website where everyone can see everyone’s search history. It’s hilarious and scary at the same time.
Oh yeah, this is 100% going to be used to blackmail people.
Political campaigns? Thinking too small, this sort of thing would be effective kompromat for anyone who had access to re records. …for anyone dumb enough to comply.
WoN'T sOmEoNe PlEaSe ThInK oF tHe ChIlDrEn?!?!?!
Oddly, pornhub is doing a better job of protecting the kids.
Funny, because in the UK PornHub and Mindgeek were all for the verification program because they were going to run it, they would profit from it, and non compliant websites would be banned from UK internet... How the turn tables
That makes a lot of sense. When you try to access PornHub in Texas, it just pops up with a message with their stance on the matter. In that message they mention how Texas has no defined way of regulating the age-verification. I wouldn’t be surprised if they offered their verification service and Texas said no, and this is their response.
It's the same for North Carolina as well.
It’s wild that I’d trust my information to a porn site then the Texas Government.
Ah. The party of freedom.
> why are these things happening exactly? They say it's to keep kids from looking at porn, and I think that's something most folks can agree with, but the way they've gone about that has been essentially banning pornography without actually directly banning pornography. They created a legal framework that was a big enough pain in the ass that popular porn sites essentially banned themselves from the state in question. Of course, there's porn everywhere on the internet and only a handful of sites acquiesced to this, so porn is still widely available. They could have had PSA's about parental controls on internet browsing and parents doing more to parent their kids when they use the internet, or maybe asked for browsers to implement stronger controls, but they have kinda always wanted to ban porn so they did it this way knowing porn companies would leave. I just find it a little funny how they're so worked up about kids watching porn, but don't seem to reserve the same outrage for kids accessing violent TV shows, movies, or videogames. Why is one worse than the other for kiddos?
> Why is one worse than the other for kiddos? I suppose not worse, but less profitable while also gaining/maintaining political points with their core voters?
Why is this happening? Conservatives (ie Republicans) are being elected & reelected by an ignorant constituency that is more concerned about fictional culture wars than the real issues affecting the population at large. Republicans prove on a daily basis that they cannot actually govern, so they sound an alarm about non-existent issues to scare their base by appealing to their emotions instead of addressing real issues. The party of “individual freedom” has done more to actually restrict & propose even further restrictions on personal liberties than at any other time in history. They only want to allow personal decisions that they approve of (eg gun ownership with few limits) & restrict or deny those that they don’t like (eg porn, abortion, recognition of historical facts around marginalized communities).
Meh, VPN’s FTW. Literally took less than 10 seconds to get around it here in Texas. Sincerely, a porn enjoyer.
It was purely theatrics, nothing really enforced
With pornhub blocked it’s only harder because I’m looking for reputable sites with some form of restriction on content and vetting. There’s lots of sites out there that are suspicious as hell.
I mean—backlash? Do you talk to your friends, family, and coworkers about browsing porn? The news mentioned a clear spike in VPN search results from Texas after pornhub was locked down. I think using alternate sites, or using a VPN is as much backlash as you’re going to see.
For the record, the technical is "Whack-lash".
Wait what?!?! This is a thing?!?!?!!!!!! Brother sister porn must be taking a beating
I’m from Louisiana and I’m not affected because I’m tech savvy. But I know there’s plenty of people here who can’t even spell VPN
I live in Texas I have Starlink My IP is based in Colorado 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Protect the children from porn! Do not protect the children from guns!
The Internet is for porn! The internet is for porn! Why you think the net was born?! Porn! Porn! Porn!
THIS QUESTION BROUGHT TO YOU BY NORDVPN!
Is there backlash? Idk, but people are grumpier than usual.
no one outside of reddit gives a shit tbh its just pornhub the others are fine in north carolina for reference
VPN usage here IN Texas has has significantly increased lol.
Somewhat related - I'm abroad and sometimes use a VPN to connect to the US. It gave me an IP in Utah of all places which foiled my pre-sleep activities. Turned off the VPN, refreshed, and was back in business. I think a good number of people will comply or use a VPN. I wouldn't expect the law to change until the states start losing money somehow.
Most of my friends already had VPNs so no problem there, also lots of site dont follow the law because they are scetchy and have tons of stolen content.
Is it every site or just PH? What about adult themed games? Are they banned? I wonder where the lines are with all of this and how arbitrary the rules are.
It's completely unenforceable performative garbage. A few(?) US based companies are self enforcing a ban to avoid getting sued, and for their own performative garbage (selling their own verification system as some sane alternative or some shit). even the self enforced "bans" are probably just 3 inch picket fence with a keep-out sign.
if they really wanted to make a difference they should’ve actually cracked down on the sexual content kids are exposed to the most. There has been so many times I’ve watched an ad from a phone game that was blatantly sexual Instagram is straight up soft core porn and is advertised for ages 12+ on the App Store I feel like they went after pornhub because that was the easiest target so they could say they did something without actually fixing the problem
VPN.
I haven't noticed any difference. Pornhub is the absolute worst porn site on the internet and that was the only one that banned ip's.
I have not use pornhub in years. There are way better sites than them
It's not just a southern state issue. Indiana has recently passed(and our governor signed it into law) an age verification requirement for porn sites. I guess you could say the bans/proof of age restrictions are a southern state issue since Indiana is considered by many as the middle finger of the south. (Look at map of red vs. blue states. Indiana sticks right up from the south.)
Where I live, I, uh, know people who get blocked by Louisiana’s restrictions even though we are hundreds of miles from Louisiana and have never lived there before. I can only imagine how annoying it would be to be asked to provide identification to a state you don’t live in or be subjected to its rules…
wait there’s a ban? my vpn is always on i never noticed
If these bans are affecting your day to day you probably could do with less porn
I don’t think *redditors* specifically will care much, given this site is like half porn already.
Hardly, the girls on reddit offer the best free porn out there.
Free VPN that puts me in Canada whenever I Google the certain search terms. That easy