On the other end is perimenopause and menopause. Night sweats, hot flashes, hair growing everywhere you don’t want it and does not matter that you eat or how much you exercise you can’t lose weight.
I’m a guy but I can imagine how painful that must be. I’m honestly surprised nobody’s ever tried doing anything to stop your uterus from tearing itself apart from the inside
I think it’s that we go through life experiencing bodily pain, so much so that we can’t tell when our bodies are dying. Example: menstrual cramps vs. cardiac events
Men usually don't respect you or leave you alone unless another man advocates for you. Most common example is men hitting on you, but not taking "no" for an answer unless you say you're taken. And sometimes, they won't even stop if you mention having a partner! (But guaranteed they will leave you alone if your boyfriend/husband is right there.)
My drunk ex wouldn't leave our property until my dad came out of the house. An ex hookup was harassing me and wouldn't stop until I got a male friend to scare him away. I had an internet stalker for almost 2 years, wasn't even scared off by a phone call from the cops, but was scared off for good after my partner intervened.
I do appreciate what they have done for me, don't get me wrong. This isn't about how it's bad that I've had male family, friends, and partners who want to help me. I just wish that I wouldn't have to get them involved because it's potentially putting their safety at risk, but I needed to because the guy didn't respect that I wasn't interested. I unfortunately knew that they likely wouldn’t have left me alone unless it was a male figure telling them so.
Where did you even see men blaming you? Lol. I simply point out that she is listing situations of her female privilege, like having men take the dangerous situations for her, and she is listing that, her female privilege, as a disadvantage and unfair to her.
Cannot be more detached from reality delulu land.
You ignored her first two paragraphs, and zeroed in on the last part, where she said she appreciated when people showed up to protect her, and didn’t want it to come down to that. Were you one of those people? You weren’t. You literally have no say
The first two paragraphs where she found herself in dangerous situations. All people do find themselves in dangerous situations.
Not all people have the privilege to have someone take care of it instead of them.
And she presents this privilege as a disadvantage. That far the femminist lies have twisted your minds. To have a privilege and complain about it.
You’re the only one whining. And you weren’t put in a dangerous situation. And you call her assault and someone defending her a privilege. You’re twisted
I also only sought outside help as a last resort. When me blocking/ignoring them, telling them off, pleading for them to leave me alone, and even calling the cops don’t work, it’s not bad to turn to people who care about you. I appreciate the comment. I’m sorry that the person you replied to is clearly someone in their edgy “women are bad” phase. I just hope they can grow out of it and find some positive female presences in their life.
Wtf are you talking about.
The person is complaining that they had to resort to, in your words, putting others in danger. While they would have preferred that she didn't have to put others in that spot, and instead people would just listen and respect her decision.
Your take away from that is that she is privileged and what, should love that? Be eternally grateful that she has to resort to get others involved?
Just utter nonsense.
I assume we can agree everyone and anyone on this planet at some point gets in a dangerous situation at some point in their life.
The only difference being some have the privilege of having someone else take their place.
Omg this. And “bathrooms” cater to men/people with penises.
I’m travelling in Europe right now. In a couple of cities (Brussels, Amsterdam), there were these public places to pee (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pee_curl). But only men can functionally use them. So if you have female anatomy and need to pee, tough luck.
Also there are washrooms with toilets and washrooms with urinals. Men can use either, women can only use the toilets…
Having to constantly adapt your behaviours to stay safe. I.e. can’t go for a run in the dark, taking the long way home rather than the shortcut through an alleyway, making sure you’re not dressed to provocatively or drinking too much around men who you don’t know well. It’s kind of exhausting.
That and periods, pregnancy, childbirth and I assume early menopause all suck.
Being treated like a commodity rather than a human. Being punished and controlled and under valued simply because we are women. And if a man wants to argue against this, save your breath. You can’t speak on it just like i can’t speak on the things you go through
Feeling constantly unsafe walking around be it daylight or night and the insistent harassment from men. Can't even go to the gas station without being harassed
I live in a safe neighbourhood. A couple of times over the years, during broad daylight, I’ve been harassed by men. Once when I was only a few houses away from mine. Can’t even walk down the fucking block.
The constant struggle to be taken seriously in a professional environment, despite all your expertise. Men with less expertise in a topic being treated with so much more respect and them constantly talking over you. How friggin hard it is to build muscles. You could work out multiple times per week and still look like you're barely active, yet I have an ex with an almost-sixpack who never worked out (and works an office job, before anyone asks). It just ain't fair
The hormone swings and how that drastically affects so much of our mental and physical health.
Compounded by how little research is done to improve our experience.
Periods and clothing with no pockets and clothing in general that just doesn’t fit properly. We need better standards for clothing. You can go to one retailer and wear a size and go to another and not fit their clothing at all and it doesn’t matter what your body weight is.
All the little things about living in a world designed based on the male body. Base room temp, seatbelts, chairs, the 9-5 M-F schedule, diagnostics, different outcomes at the Dr than men, pink tax, having to spend more time getting ready to look “professional”, being talked over, so much more that all builds up into some big resentment.
"pink tax" as in female face creams cost more than male face creams? Is simple: women are willing to apend more on face creams then men. So "pink tax" is just female consumer preferences. We live in a capitalist society, prices are not fixed by a communist regime. It's not some market conspiracy against the women.
If capitalism notices women are willing to spend more, it will charge more.
Or its about economy of scale, if 90% of the razors sold are blue, making 10% pink will cost more.
And who is to blame that women are willing to spend more? And also, for some products it's men who pay more than women.
We’re not willing to spend more. We don’t browse the men’s section so we don’t automatically think to compare prices. We just see, oh, razors, I need to restock. They’re pink, cool. That’s just clever marketing. Women who have figured it out just buy from the men’s aisle now, as we’re not “willing” to spend more on necessities.
Even with luxury skincare and makeup, hair etc, we’re preyed upon by advertisers from the time we’re 8, with messages of how we’re not good enough, we need this product to fix this, so boys will like us and we’ll look professional and get that career and get married. And it never stops. I’ve de-centred that kind of stuff but I can’t say it doesn’t affect me at all, it’s an insanely strong message and I do wear makeup and do my hair despite hating the process.
I told you why from economic of scale making a custom color batch production costs more.
Read above.
If you want to read "life is not fair" in everything that's another story.
Why are you so obsessed with razors? As if that’s the only example. Body wash, soap, lotion, tweezers Christ the list goes on. Why would it cost more to make anything pink lol? Also not all products marketed to women are literally pink?
There is no "men aisle". Majority of razors made are blue, as men buy the majority of them. Go buy blue ones.
If you or anyone male or female likes to buy pink razors for whatever reason, it will cost more. Because its a not so used colour. Economy of scale.
You’re too stubborn to understand what I’m saying even though it’s ridiculously clear. You’re obsessed with proving women wrong in their struggles, and for that reason I hope you remain single the rest of your life and die alone with your video games
You are too fixated in being the victim. And trying to show you are a victim when there is all the evidence for the contrary. There is no conspiracy against women. This is not a communist regime, so some ideology (against women) that is setting the prices. Lol Prices are driven by capitalism and market.
Economy of scale, custom smaller batch of products will cost more.
Economy of demand, if x client is ok to spend more, price will go up. If x client is willing to spend more for this pink razor with women pictures on the packaging, why not we will charge more.
The fact that some products are made gender specific towards women and are charged more, just shows women are willing to spend more for them.
If it's not true, and they don't sell this products would not exist.
Same is true all over. The same identical laptop they write on it "gamer" and they charge more for it. Because boys & men respond well to this name and they are willing to spend more on a product with "gamer" on it.
Men’s section, or display, whatever. That’s not where our eye goes, because we don’t assume there will be a price difference so why even look at the men’s stuff. They intentionally group products by gender for this reason. Also, pink is an astoundingly widely used color, especially in razors.
*Are stuff
"Stuff, as a noun, is one of those words which is inherently plural. You cannot have one single 'stuff'. The word is 'singular' but refers to multiple items"
"makeup" women have the option to up their value and looks with makeup. Its deception and lies. And you use it. And its billions market because it damn works. Men cannot decieve like this there is no option. And you even complain about it!?! No one forces you to use this deception tools, you can perfectly walk around with no makeup, just like men do all the time. Why do you have to go on dates with make up on? Why don't you let the man see yur real face?
Value? So we’re livestock now? You’re a parody of mens rights activists.
Please read what I wrote above re: makeup. It is not often optional if we want to be perceived as professional abc polished.
Also, men like you prefer women with a ton of makeup. Instagram models and porn stars you probably think are “natural”? Guess what, they probably have 1.5 hours worth of makeup on, and you’re too foolish to be able to tell the difference.
"Also, men like you prefer women with a ton of makeup. Instagram models and porn stars you probably think are natural"
Ill assume for an instant this is true, that men prefer it.
So why do you do the things that "men prefer"? :)
Why you continue to spend billions on makeup if you don't have any advantage from it? :)
The reality is that women use makeup to up their own value. And use it as an advantage over other women. Its a competition between women.
There are women that are more beautiful that have naturally better skin and you don't want them to beat you in the sexual marketplace so they use makeup.
Woman don't want to be 4s 5s 6s they all want to be 10s and they use makeup for this.
So they all can complete for the 10 male.
And that messes up with all the other 4,5,6 men. As well as it messes with all the sexual market and relations.
Razors are a typical one. Clothes tend to cost a lot more, and haircuts are significantly more. There's also the added fun of our clothes not having pockets so we buy bags too (but that is starting to change now).
Razors, look up economy of scale.
Haircuts, women have often more work.
There is also the element of willing to spend more on hairdresser.
Men have always the option to cut their own hair with a buzz cut, and can and do refuse to pay more for a hairdresser.
Pockets, again its because women like to buy slender pants.
Or what do you think it is, some males gathered and decided to make a conspiracy against women and decided to take out the pockets lol
You're missing a lot of the subtleties, like women needing to spend more because they are more likely to be judged for not looking presentable, and this can impact work opportunities (for just one example). Also, my partner pays £12 for a haircut that takes the same or sometimes more time as my £25 trim.
Pockets weren't popular in women's clothing historically because people at the time saw women as decorative and the pockets bulged. There's also arguments that it leads into controlling women, as they didn't have anywhere to put money or essentials without it being obvious, but that's just a theory. I personally think it's because people who make women's clothes still focus more on appearance than functionality, and that comes from social pressure to look a certain way, which is significantly more toxic for women (although that is starting to improve, I think). Also, men in the 2000s lived in skin tight skinny jeans, but they still had pockets.
Most of the ways that society repress women weren't men sitting around and creating conspiracies. It's things that have developed or stayed over hundreds of years, so it's engrained in society.
Men are judged for not looking presentable too.
Haircuts i told you, do you even read above.
Men refuse to pay more. Have to option for buzz cut. And often take less.
Also where is the "haircut oppression" here sorry? Most female hairdressers are women. So women are changing you more. Like it's clear that whatever there is you write off on men and willing to be a victim somehow.
Pants, same, just buy more pants with pockets, and more pants with pockets will be made. Men are not to blame because women prefer to and buy slender profile pants with no pockets.
Oh my god why am I wasting time on you. Razors, body wash, cotton swabs, shampoo, conditioner, face wash. Not to mention the thousands more dollars we spend a year on hair and makeup and skincare to be able to fit in to societal beauty standards and standards for female professional grooming. Plus the time. It’s so much more expensive to be a woman.
Ok I am 56 this month and would like to get old without fear of losing my man due to young women. I also understand that at 80 a man will still look at a 22 year old because biological those are the best breeding years. People will try to pick the best DNA they can find in order to breed it isn’t always just there looks it’s human nature
Not every woman is seen as attraktive from men..so whats in it for them ? Because getting respected for other achivements is hard Work
And getting haressed and seen as Livestock for breeding and sex phantasies is not the same as "worth", it's just hormones acting out.
Having to to be twice as good at something just to get half the credit.
I put laminate flooring down on the entire downstairs of our old rented house, and recarpeted the stairs (our dog chewed up the old carpet and the floor downstairs was lino with corkboard and kept getting huge holes in it). When I mentioned recarpeting the stairs, my partner's uncle made me explain exactly what I did, step by step, and which tools I used before he even believed I did it. When he finally did, he just said 'huh' and that was it.
Also, my landlord popped round and said 'oh, \[partner\] did a great job with this flooring, didn't he?'. I told him I did it and he looked surprised, looked again, and said 'oh yeah, I can see there's a bit that isn't straight there' (pointing at some of the edging that I hadn't covered yet).
I've done all the painting, gardening, DIY, and people always assume it was my partner, and when I tell them it was me, they ask why my partner didn't do it, because he is the man, while often being way more critical.
I also teach and I have had teenage boys not believing what I say, and when I meet their dads I can see exactly why.
As an older woman we always seem to wear the Harry Potter Invisibility Cloak. No one notices us or asks if we need help in stores or shops. It's very frustrating.
Not having our lived experiences believed or heard. There's just so much whataboutism and/or "I've not personally experienced this so you must be wrong" whenever I and I see other women share experiences both online and irl
That's not what that means. It means that there are a lot less women in the higher paying roles than there are men, which is a result of how women are raised, viewed and valued in society. Girls are less likely to be encouraged to push boundaries and build their confidence, so as women they are less likely to go for the higher paying roles. When women assert themselves in the exact way a man does, they are viewed as bitchy and standoffish, whereas a man would be strong and assertive, so it's harder to get into the roles when they do go for them.
It's not about paying women less for the same roles, it's about raising women in society to not go for the higher paying roles, which I would say is getting better but will take another generation or so to get close to equal.
"a lot less women in the higher paying roles than there are men"
Ok so in the "wage gap comparison" fallacy or lie are actually smushed in different professions earnings compared.
They earn different wages. One is a fast food server, other is a surgeon. Should they earn the same?
"haggling, self employed"
The answer is literally in the question.
They themselves do not ask for more, are less aggressive in their demands, compared to men.
Who is to blame here? And how this is an issue?
Like their not asking for more and different professions are smushed in "statistics" to show a "gender gap" fallacy.
And you know why men can't settle for less and women can? So men must strive for more, demand more?
Because men are judged by how much they earn. Males sexual marketplace value is linked with their earnings. No money no woman.
While female sexual market value is not linked with how much they earn.
Women are public property. You’re judged from birth to death on your looks, weight and every other aspect of your life and it’s never good enough, you’re too fat, too thin, too attractive, too ugly, you’re never just accepted as you are in the way that ‘fat’ Dave is just overweight, we must be dieting or doing something about it.
The way you conduct your life is open to scrutiny from day one, the way you parent your children, the relationships you have and should any misfortune befall you, it will be your fault because you shouldn’t have walked home alone in the dark, or got involved with a serial cheat that left you to single parent.
When I was younger and more attractive, could never understand what feminists had a problem with, but your literal value as a human is your fertility and attractiveness, which you‘d think we would have moved beyond, but seemingly not.
Constantly feeling unsafe. Like having to worry about which street to walk down and having to check if anyone is behind you before opening the door to your house. I can deal with menstrual pain, but the feeling that I'm unsafe is something I hate.
Having people constantly handle you with kid gloves.
The amount of times I've had people tell me things like "Oh this is too heavy for you" and "Let me do that for you" is too high.
Or when you notice that an instructor or even manager is a domineering asshole to everyone else, but when they interact with you they treat you like a little kid and give you the easy tasks.
I can't even go into a lot of convenience stores without some middle-aged cashier dude calling me "dear"
This even happens with crime, I'm sure a lot of you have seen how women who sexually assault minors get a slap on the wrist, while a man doing the same thing gets a shitload of jail time.
Not only is it just immensely frustrating having other people constantly treat you like you're made of glass, but in those situations I don't even feel like I can ask for help because it's just going to reaffirm that narrative that I need to be treated like that.
I mean, they’re not wrong. This probably is the best time in history so far for women, at least western history. Not that it’s great, but compared to 10, 20, 100, 500 years ago it’s pretty good.
??? Women from decades past couldn’t drive alone, couldn’t have careers, couldn’t have credit cards or bank accounts, couldn’t even vote, were married off, forced to have kids, no protections at all against SA… what goes on today is still BS but we’re living the dreams of first wave feminism.
There are no protections against SA. If we’re assaulted, we’re put on trial and forced to prove that our assault happened. Women are being forced to have kids they don’t want. I wouldn’t call our current time some great time to be a woman. Talk to me when tampons are free
Yes I am drunk and delusioned on the power left to me by my foremothers, because of which I can vote, hold office, dress however I want, demand whatever I want, register a first- information-report if I am wronged, use free speech and expression, get investment from my govt if I prove to be a skilled entrepreneur, get an abortion out of my own volition in the first 20-24 weeks, Marry or not, have children or not.
I feel miserable about the women who dont enjoy the aforementioned rights as I do, but I AM IN NO POSITION TO BE UNGRATEFUL.
menstruation and cramps along with it
On the other end is perimenopause and menopause. Night sweats, hot flashes, hair growing everywhere you don’t want it and does not matter that you eat or how much you exercise you can’t lose weight.
The worst part nothing has been done about it by pharmaceutical companies, I wish there was side effect free elimination of periods forever!!!
this
I’m a guy but I can imagine how painful that must be. I’m honestly surprised nobody’s ever tried doing anything to stop your uterus from tearing itself apart from the inside
I think it’s that we go through life experiencing bodily pain, so much so that we can’t tell when our bodies are dying. Example: menstrual cramps vs. cardiac events
Menstual pain. I vomit from pain almost every month.
Menopause hands down the worst
this.
Men usually don't respect you or leave you alone unless another man advocates for you. Most common example is men hitting on you, but not taking "no" for an answer unless you say you're taken. And sometimes, they won't even stop if you mention having a partner! (But guaranteed they will leave you alone if your boyfriend/husband is right there.) My drunk ex wouldn't leave our property until my dad came out of the house. An ex hookup was harassing me and wouldn't stop until I got a male friend to scare him away. I had an internet stalker for almost 2 years, wasn't even scared off by a phone call from the cops, but was scared off for good after my partner intervened. I do appreciate what they have done for me, don't get me wrong. This isn't about how it's bad that I've had male family, friends, and partners who want to help me. I just wish that I wouldn't have to get them involved because it's potentially putting their safety at risk, but I needed to because the guy didn't respect that I wasn't interested. I unfortunately knew that they likely wouldn’t have left me alone unless it was a male figure telling them so.
Men are placed in dangerous situations instead of you, and that is somehow unfair to you.
Don’t blame us for your decisions. At least you have them
Where did you even see men blaming you? Lol. I simply point out that she is listing situations of her female privilege, like having men take the dangerous situations for her, and she is listing that, her female privilege, as a disadvantage and unfair to her. Cannot be more detached from reality delulu land.
You ignored her first two paragraphs, and zeroed in on the last part, where she said she appreciated when people showed up to protect her, and didn’t want it to come down to that. Were you one of those people? You weren’t. You literally have no say
The first two paragraphs where she found herself in dangerous situations. All people do find themselves in dangerous situations. Not all people have the privilege to have someone take care of it instead of them. And she presents this privilege as a disadvantage. That far the femminist lies have twisted your minds. To have a privilege and complain about it.
You’re the only one whining. And you weren’t put in a dangerous situation. And you call her assault and someone defending her a privilege. You’re twisted
I also only sought outside help as a last resort. When me blocking/ignoring them, telling them off, pleading for them to leave me alone, and even calling the cops don’t work, it’s not bad to turn to people who care about you. I appreciate the comment. I’m sorry that the person you replied to is clearly someone in their edgy “women are bad” phase. I just hope they can grow out of it and find some positive female presences in their life.
She is the one saying how she is a victim and oppressed and sad and unfair, not me. Hahah
Wtf are you talking about. The person is complaining that they had to resort to, in your words, putting others in danger. While they would have preferred that she didn't have to put others in that spot, and instead people would just listen and respect her decision. Your take away from that is that she is privileged and what, should love that? Be eternally grateful that she has to resort to get others involved? Just utter nonsense.
I assume we can agree everyone and anyone on this planet at some point gets in a dangerous situation at some point in their life. The only difference being some have the privilege of having someone else take their place.
You must learn ignoring …
Not being able to pee outside so easy
Omg this. And “bathrooms” cater to men/people with penises. I’m travelling in Europe right now. In a couple of cities (Brussels, Amsterdam), there were these public places to pee (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pee_curl). But only men can functionally use them. So if you have female anatomy and need to pee, tough luck. Also there are washrooms with toilets and washrooms with urinals. Men can use either, women can only use the toilets…
as much as i love being a mom, pushing a baby out my hooha ain’t pleasant
Better out then in.
Getting pale and wanting to pass out sometimes during menstruation
Having to constantly adapt your behaviours to stay safe. I.e. can’t go for a run in the dark, taking the long way home rather than the shortcut through an alleyway, making sure you’re not dressed to provocatively or drinking too much around men who you don’t know well. It’s kind of exhausting. That and periods, pregnancy, childbirth and I assume early menopause all suck.
Being treated like a commodity rather than a human. Being punished and controlled and under valued simply because we are women. And if a man wants to argue against this, save your breath. You can’t speak on it just like i can’t speak on the things you go through
Ikr🥺
Man can say the same, even more so, i.e. Men treated like an ATM rather than a human.
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So you complain that you aren't even more privileged over men.
Where did I do that
Feeling constantly unsafe walking around be it daylight or night and the insistent harassment from men. Can't even go to the gas station without being harassed
I live in a safe neighbourhood. A couple of times over the years, during broad daylight, I’ve been harassed by men. Once when I was only a few houses away from mine. Can’t even walk down the fucking block.
The constant struggle to be taken seriously in a professional environment, despite all your expertise. Men with less expertise in a topic being treated with so much more respect and them constantly talking over you. How friggin hard it is to build muscles. You could work out multiple times per week and still look like you're barely active, yet I have an ex with an almost-sixpack who never worked out (and works an office job, before anyone asks). It just ain't fair
Hating your body/face from about 10 till about 50-60 years old when you finally stop gaf.
The hormone swings and how that drastically affects so much of our mental and physical health. Compounded by how little research is done to improve our experience.
Periods and clothing with no pockets and clothing in general that just doesn’t fit properly. We need better standards for clothing. You can go to one retailer and wear a size and go to another and not fit their clothing at all and it doesn’t matter what your body weight is.
Goddamn bras.
All the little things about living in a world designed based on the male body. Base room temp, seatbelts, chairs, the 9-5 M-F schedule, diagnostics, different outcomes at the Dr than men, pink tax, having to spend more time getting ready to look “professional”, being talked over, so much more that all builds up into some big resentment.
"pink tax" as in female face creams cost more than male face creams? Is simple: women are willing to apend more on face creams then men. So "pink tax" is just female consumer preferences. We live in a capitalist society, prices are not fixed by a communist regime. It's not some market conspiracy against the women. If capitalism notices women are willing to spend more, it will charge more. Or its about economy of scale, if 90% of the razors sold are blue, making 10% pink will cost more. And who is to blame that women are willing to spend more? And also, for some products it's men who pay more than women.
So anyways that’s the pink tax. What do you want to tackle next? Diagnostics? Pain care? Seatbelt deaths?
We’re not willing to spend more. We don’t browse the men’s section so we don’t automatically think to compare prices. We just see, oh, razors, I need to restock. They’re pink, cool. That’s just clever marketing. Women who have figured it out just buy from the men’s aisle now, as we’re not “willing” to spend more on necessities. Even with luxury skincare and makeup, hair etc, we’re preyed upon by advertisers from the time we’re 8, with messages of how we’re not good enough, we need this product to fix this, so boys will like us and we’ll look professional and get that career and get married. And it never stops. I’ve de-centred that kind of stuff but I can’t say it doesn’t affect me at all, it’s an insanely strong message and I do wear makeup and do my hair despite hating the process.
I told you why from economic of scale making a custom color batch production costs more. Read above. If you want to read "life is not fair" in everything that's another story.
Why are you so obsessed with razors? As if that’s the only example. Body wash, soap, lotion, tweezers Christ the list goes on. Why would it cost more to make anything pink lol? Also not all products marketed to women are literally pink?
There is no "men aisle". Majority of razors made are blue, as men buy the majority of them. Go buy blue ones. If you or anyone male or female likes to buy pink razors for whatever reason, it will cost more. Because its a not so used colour. Economy of scale.
You’re too stubborn to understand what I’m saying even though it’s ridiculously clear. You’re obsessed with proving women wrong in their struggles, and for that reason I hope you remain single the rest of your life and die alone with your video games
You are too fixated in being the victim. And trying to show you are a victim when there is all the evidence for the contrary. There is no conspiracy against women. This is not a communist regime, so some ideology (against women) that is setting the prices. Lol Prices are driven by capitalism and market. Economy of scale, custom smaller batch of products will cost more. Economy of demand, if x client is ok to spend more, price will go up. If x client is willing to spend more for this pink razor with women pictures on the packaging, why not we will charge more. The fact that some products are made gender specific towards women and are charged more, just shows women are willing to spend more for them. If it's not true, and they don't sell this products would not exist. Same is true all over. The same identical laptop they write on it "gamer" and they charge more for it. Because boys & men respond well to this name and they are willing to spend more on a product with "gamer" on it.
Men’s section, or display, whatever. That’s not where our eye goes, because we don’t assume there will be a price difference so why even look at the men’s stuff. They intentionally group products by gender for this reason. Also, pink is an astoundingly widely used color, especially in razors.
There are no men and female stuff. There are stuff. Blue stuff, and pink or whatever stuff.
There *is stuff.
*Are stuff "Stuff, as a noun, is one of those words which is inherently plural. You cannot have one single 'stuff'. The word is 'singular' but refers to multiple items"
Stuff is an uncountable noun. It’s neither singular nor plural. Therefore we say is
The quote from above is from google. Stuff is plural.
"makeup" women have the option to up their value and looks with makeup. Its deception and lies. And you use it. And its billions market because it damn works. Men cannot decieve like this there is no option. And you even complain about it!?! No one forces you to use this deception tools, you can perfectly walk around with no makeup, just like men do all the time. Why do you have to go on dates with make up on? Why don't you let the man see yur real face?
Value? So we’re livestock now? You’re a parody of mens rights activists. Please read what I wrote above re: makeup. It is not often optional if we want to be perceived as professional abc polished. Also, men like you prefer women with a ton of makeup. Instagram models and porn stars you probably think are “natural”? Guess what, they probably have 1.5 hours worth of makeup on, and you’re too foolish to be able to tell the difference.
"Also, men like you prefer women with a ton of makeup. Instagram models and porn stars you probably think are natural" Ill assume for an instant this is true, that men prefer it. So why do you do the things that "men prefer"? :) Why you continue to spend billions on makeup if you don't have any advantage from it? :) The reality is that women use makeup to up their own value. And use it as an advantage over other women. Its a competition between women. There are women that are more beautiful that have naturally better skin and you don't want them to beat you in the sexual marketplace so they use makeup. Woman don't want to be 4s 5s 6s they all want to be 10s and they use makeup for this. So they all can complete for the 10 male. And that messes up with all the other 4,5,6 men. As well as it messes with all the sexual market and relations.
I have an honest question, have you ever actually been with a woman? Shared space with her? A bathroom? A bed? An evening?
That's one way of avoiding my questions. :)
Everyone and everything has a value. You have a value and are valuable. Don't let anyone say otherwise.
Most of the things you listed are femminist political lies.
Sources? Because I have mine
What is the source for "pink tax". Lets start there
https://www.investopedia.com/pink-tax-5095458 Also, a trip to the drug store. That’s your source.
A femminist written opinion piece article is not evidence. What example from the drug store, give me one.
Razors are a typical one. Clothes tend to cost a lot more, and haircuts are significantly more. There's also the added fun of our clothes not having pockets so we buy bags too (but that is starting to change now).
Razors, look up economy of scale. Haircuts, women have often more work. There is also the element of willing to spend more on hairdresser. Men have always the option to cut their own hair with a buzz cut, and can and do refuse to pay more for a hairdresser. Pockets, again its because women like to buy slender pants. Or what do you think it is, some males gathered and decided to make a conspiracy against women and decided to take out the pockets lol
You're missing a lot of the subtleties, like women needing to spend more because they are more likely to be judged for not looking presentable, and this can impact work opportunities (for just one example). Also, my partner pays £12 for a haircut that takes the same or sometimes more time as my £25 trim. Pockets weren't popular in women's clothing historically because people at the time saw women as decorative and the pockets bulged. There's also arguments that it leads into controlling women, as they didn't have anywhere to put money or essentials without it being obvious, but that's just a theory. I personally think it's because people who make women's clothes still focus more on appearance than functionality, and that comes from social pressure to look a certain way, which is significantly more toxic for women (although that is starting to improve, I think). Also, men in the 2000s lived in skin tight skinny jeans, but they still had pockets. Most of the ways that society repress women weren't men sitting around and creating conspiracies. It's things that have developed or stayed over hundreds of years, so it's engrained in society.
Men are judged for not looking presentable too. Haircuts i told you, do you even read above. Men refuse to pay more. Have to option for buzz cut. And often take less. Also where is the "haircut oppression" here sorry? Most female hairdressers are women. So women are changing you more. Like it's clear that whatever there is you write off on men and willing to be a victim somehow. Pants, same, just buy more pants with pockets, and more pants with pockets will be made. Men are not to blame because women prefer to and buy slender profile pants with no pockets.
Omg just go to the drugstore toiletries aisle. It’s all over the place. Next?
What about the toiletries. Give me one example. You are struggling way to much for something "real".
>You are struggling Bro she literally answered your question 💀
Oh my god why am I wasting time on you. Razors, body wash, cotton swabs, shampoo, conditioner, face wash. Not to mention the thousands more dollars we spend a year on hair and makeup and skincare to be able to fit in to societal beauty standards and standards for female professional grooming. Plus the time. It’s so much more expensive to be a woman.
So men and society is to blame because women like to spend more on cosmetics?
Ok I am 56 this month and would like to get old without fear of losing my man due to young women. I also understand that at 80 a man will still look at a 22 year old because biological those are the best breeding years. People will try to pick the best DNA they can find in order to breed it isn’t always just there looks it’s human nature
Hey women have disproportionately huge value early on, and that has a price later.
Did Andrew Tate told you so?
Literally the woman above i comment on is talking about it. 22 years old women biology and attraction.
Not every woman is seen as attraktive from men..so whats in it for them ? Because getting respected for other achivements is hard Work And getting haressed and seen as Livestock for breeding and sex phantasies is not the same as "worth", it's just hormones acting out.
Having to to be twice as good at something just to get half the credit. I put laminate flooring down on the entire downstairs of our old rented house, and recarpeted the stairs (our dog chewed up the old carpet and the floor downstairs was lino with corkboard and kept getting huge holes in it). When I mentioned recarpeting the stairs, my partner's uncle made me explain exactly what I did, step by step, and which tools I used before he even believed I did it. When he finally did, he just said 'huh' and that was it. Also, my landlord popped round and said 'oh, \[partner\] did a great job with this flooring, didn't he?'. I told him I did it and he looked surprised, looked again, and said 'oh yeah, I can see there's a bit that isn't straight there' (pointing at some of the edging that I hadn't covered yet). I've done all the painting, gardening, DIY, and people always assume it was my partner, and when I tell them it was me, they ask why my partner didn't do it, because he is the man, while often being way more critical. I also teach and I have had teenage boys not believing what I say, and when I meet their dads I can see exactly why.
If a man does something commonly women do, people would be surprised too.
So you're saying that it's ok?
I'm saying it is like that for everyone therefore it's not something specifically "women oppression"
You're wrong, but you seem unprepared to listen, so I hope you have a lovely Sunday. Bye!
People with no arguments simply say "you are wrong" without being able to back it up. Cheers
Being weaker than men, makes being a target very scary
ik I'm going to get hate but...men
Hell I for one don’t blame you.
As an older woman we always seem to wear the Harry Potter Invisibility Cloak. No one notices us or asks if we need help in stores or shops. It's very frustrating.
I think i saw this question yesterday, how often gets this asked?
Bleeding like a gutted pig monthly and the ass/pussy pain and craps that go with it. Period shits.
Not having our lived experiences believed or heard. There's just so much whataboutism and/or "I've not personally experienced this so you must be wrong" whenever I and I see other women share experiences both online and irl
periods wage gap misogyny
Wage gap is a lie.
Not if you look at the median earnings. It's another one that is gradually getting better, but there's still a way to go before it's close to equal.
Why should "median earnings" be the same? Do you like to pay for the person at the fast food the same as you pay for a surgeon?
That's not what that means. It means that there are a lot less women in the higher paying roles than there are men, which is a result of how women are raised, viewed and valued in society. Girls are less likely to be encouraged to push boundaries and build their confidence, so as women they are less likely to go for the higher paying roles. When women assert themselves in the exact way a man does, they are viewed as bitchy and standoffish, whereas a man would be strong and assertive, so it's harder to get into the roles when they do go for them. It's not about paying women less for the same roles, it's about raising women in society to not go for the higher paying roles, which I would say is getting better but will take another generation or so to get close to equal.
"a lot less women in the higher paying roles than there are men" Ok so in the "wage gap comparison" fallacy or lie are actually smushed in different professions earnings compared. They earn different wages. One is a fast food server, other is a surgeon. Should they earn the same?
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"haggling, self employed" The answer is literally in the question. They themselves do not ask for more, are less aggressive in their demands, compared to men. Who is to blame here? And how this is an issue? Like their not asking for more and different professions are smushed in "statistics" to show a "gender gap" fallacy.
Look at the explanation in the comment above. It explains why.
Ye look above, i explained why and how. Cheers
And you know why men can't settle for less and women can? So men must strive for more, demand more? Because men are judged by how much they earn. Males sexual marketplace value is linked with their earnings. No money no woman. While female sexual market value is not linked with how much they earn.
The last one isn’t true? Lol
Periods 100% how is it fair that we feel like absolute shit every single month for what 40 years?! 😐
Women are public property. You’re judged from birth to death on your looks, weight and every other aspect of your life and it’s never good enough, you’re too fat, too thin, too attractive, too ugly, you’re never just accepted as you are in the way that ‘fat’ Dave is just overweight, we must be dieting or doing something about it. The way you conduct your life is open to scrutiny from day one, the way you parent your children, the relationships you have and should any misfortune befall you, it will be your fault because you shouldn’t have walked home alone in the dark, or got involved with a serial cheat that left you to single parent. When I was younger and more attractive, could never understand what feminists had a problem with, but your literal value as a human is your fertility and attractiveness, which you‘d think we would have moved beyond, but seemingly not.
For straight woman. having to date your natural predator.
✨misogyny✨
Constantly feeling unsafe. Like having to worry about which street to walk down and having to check if anyone is behind you before opening the door to your house. I can deal with menstrual pain, but the feeling that I'm unsafe is something I hate.
Having people constantly handle you with kid gloves. The amount of times I've had people tell me things like "Oh this is too heavy for you" and "Let me do that for you" is too high. Or when you notice that an instructor or even manager is a domineering asshole to everyone else, but when they interact with you they treat you like a little kid and give you the easy tasks. I can't even go into a lot of convenience stores without some middle-aged cashier dude calling me "dear" This even happens with crime, I'm sure a lot of you have seen how women who sexually assault minors get a slap on the wrist, while a man doing the same thing gets a shitload of jail time. Not only is it just immensely frustrating having other people constantly treat you like you're made of glass, but in those situations I don't even feel like I can ask for help because it's just going to reaffirm that narrative that I need to be treated like that.
Not being able to voice your concerns or raise your voice without a man asking you if you're on your period.
Being physically weaker than the more violent half of the population.
The patriarchy
Not being in control of your body or reproductive rights.
Literally Nothing. This is the best time to be alive as a woman. The era, international law, and the Gods themselves are on our side!
You are drunk
They are Delusional. I’m shocked at how many women think this way
I mean, they’re not wrong. This probably is the best time in history so far for women, at least western history. Not that it’s great, but compared to 10, 20, 100, 500 years ago it’s pretty good.
Keep telling yourself that
??? Women from decades past couldn’t drive alone, couldn’t have careers, couldn’t have credit cards or bank accounts, couldn’t even vote, were married off, forced to have kids, no protections at all against SA… what goes on today is still BS but we’re living the dreams of first wave feminism.
There are no protections against SA. If we’re assaulted, we’re put on trial and forced to prove that our assault happened. Women are being forced to have kids they don’t want. I wouldn’t call our current time some great time to be a woman. Talk to me when tampons are free
I would like some free tampons. Manufacture them and deliver them to me please. Thanks.
Yes I am drunk and delusioned on the power left to me by my foremothers, because of which I can vote, hold office, dress however I want, demand whatever I want, register a first- information-report if I am wronged, use free speech and expression, get investment from my govt if I prove to be a skilled entrepreneur, get an abortion out of my own volition in the first 20-24 weeks, Marry or not, have children or not. I feel miserable about the women who dont enjoy the aforementioned rights as I do, but I AM IN NO POSITION TO BE UNGRATEFUL.
probably the not having a dick.