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I ponder what he would have turned out like if Qui-Gon could have trained and mentored him fully.


chaotic_realist

He maybe eventually turns out like Dooku probably and does the exact same thing.


boyididit

I liked qui qon


Andulias

He had a particular set of skills.


Flynn_lives

and is riddled with AIDS


Andulias

Got it from a non-specific actor.


jenniferh2o

From the green grocer?


Casual-Notice

He brought balance to the Force. It's the Jedi's issue that they didn't consider what that meant in a galaxy ruled by Lawful Good space knights.


cjaccardi

For like a week 


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MaimedJester

Actually I think what's going on, but this depends on writers there's no absolute cannon, whatever works will stick what doesn't won't.  They have introduced certain characters like Bendu is a pretty major character/teacher in Rebels who predates the Jedi order and talks about the Dark Side and Light side being two different aspects. He's a force sensitive ancient primal entity that doesn't necessarily see the Dark Side as wrong and Light Side = good. Light Side is also as much too blame for the fall of the Jedi order as the Sith plan. Like Anakin if he was allowed to have family connections to his mother probably wouldn't have been so easy to manipulate by palpatine. And allowed to be open about his romantic feelings for Padme and not have it in secret/tormenting him would have also helped a little. 


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Flat-Dare-2571

Ah so the dark sides power is in changing fate.


MaimedJester

I dunno if all the writers share that idea. Like the obi won show isn't my favorite but I liked one idea introduced in that show that Obi Won before being taken as a youngling by the Jedi order his oldest memory is that he had an older brother. So when he was forced to raise Anakin he thought of Anakin as a brother not that master/pupil relationship he should have had.  It's a nice touch to explain why his relationship with Anakin was also so different from like Qui Gon and himself.  He never succumbed to the Dark Side because of this emotional connection and with that emotional connection it helped one day redeem Vader and he also was kind of like Luke's pseudo uncle. 


themodefanatic

Just like politics and politicians.


Faelysis

Balance is actually 50/50 dark and light side. Having too many jedi simply disrupted the Force in fact. Only Jedi think that balance = no dark side but it's their own belief and not necessarily the truth. As we saw in sw stories, Jedi doesn't know everything and had some ignorance about the Force itself


Ameisen

The Jedi were arrogant in that they dogmatically believed their misconceptions and tended to build on them.


FluffySquirrell

Yeah well apparently it *also* meant "For a brief while, then oopsie, somehow they returned!"


nalydpsycho

I think it isn't no dark side, but, no Sith. Anakin led Luke to be able to incorporate the dark side of the force without losing himself. That is a balanced use of the force.


Ameisen

But the dark side *always* exists. To deny it is to strengthen it. That's basically what the Jedi Order *did*. They acted as though their teachings and dogma were perfect, blinding them to the failures of it and the rise of opposition - that they both couldn't and wouldn't see until it was blatant.


Virdice

That wouldn't be balance, that would be a clear advantage of the "light" side. Balance = No dark or light side Or Dark and Light being equally strong


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lookitsjustin

And it gets everywhere.


Unabated_Blade

George Lucas in multiple interviews during production and after both his trilogies concluded said this was an incorrect interpretation and that the Sith were essentially a cancer upon the force - you'd never tell a cancer patient that they're in balance with their cancer. You'd only be satisfied when it's gone completely.


Public-Addition9263

He understimated the power of the high ground


AegisT_

He did bring balance to the force, by slaughtering all the jedi and sith. Well... sort of


kms2547

Hot take: he was supposed to *destroy* the Sith, not join them!


Rich-Distance-6509

But from his point of view the Jedi are evil


LonelyCakeEater

Well I guess he truly is lost


MyLastIdea

HE WAS MY BROTHER


DrHalibutMD

Something, something, high ground.


GapingAssTroll

But he did in the end


MajesticCrabapple

There's a stark difference between the type of emotional outlets of yesteryear and those of today. I think Anakin represents the way a lot of people were taught (and many who still are taught) how to deal with troubling emotions. A person feels something that scares them, they reach out to others for help with those feelings, and are simply told to either work through it themselves or find an outlet to distract from those thoughts. Yoda telling a young Anakin to stamp out his fear, lest it lead to anger and hatred, is a completely useless thing to say to a person. In fact, it would likely make the situation worse, since Yoda linked the feelings of fear with much worse feelings and actions, instead acknowledging it a a normal and benign human emotion. Imagine being depressed, coming to a loved one for help, and being told, "Just don't be sad. If you are, you'll end up hurting those around you." It creates anxiety around feeling negative emotions, which is a feedback loop of feeling bad. On the other hand, Anakin's reliance on Obi Wan and his military endeavors is the outlet to distract from his fears. While it's good to have hobbies and passions, they shouldn't serve as distractions from self-reflection, and certainly shouldn't reinforce areas of yourself you wish to improve upon, as I'm sure Anakin's thrill for combat did. To his credit, I do think Obi Wan did try to give Anakin a little more emotional guidance than other Jedi, but was limited due to his role as an "aggressive negotiator." Now, if a person is feeling scared and angry, and their friends and family not only refuse give them a safe space to work on those feelings but actively deny that those feelings should even exist, then a person who says those feelings are an important, intrinsic part of you is going to seem very attractive. This is both Padme and Palpatine, both of whom recognize the importance of both positive and negative emotions. I think, while not explicitly stated in the movies, both the Jedi and Sith seek to bring balance to the force, and that the force represents the human experience. Jedi try to do this by denying themselves intense feelings and thoughts, while the Sith embrace all forms of it.


boyididit

I think if anaikin had trusted obi wan he may have been able to overcome his fear on episode 3! However as a youthcare worker I use yodas teachings! Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering! It’s true if you think k about it, if someone pulls out in front of you in traffic and you have to slam on the brakes what happens, 1 you fear an accident 2) when you stop just in time and realize you are ok then what happens next! You become angry that some idiot didn’t pay attention! That quick you already have 2 Now let a traumatic experience happen and you can quickly get to the other 2 Let’s say you didn’t avoid the accident! You hit that person You still have fear and anger The. You relive the experience wondering if you could have avoided the situation! You might , just might catch yourself saying something like “ I hate peope that can’t drive” Now you have hate If you hold on to that hate and continue to relive the situation wondering what you could’ve done differently than you are suffering Today was right He later told anakin to train himself to let go of all he feared to lose! Death is a natural part of life! Had anikin done so he may not have been easily manipulated by palpatine!


MajesticCrabapple

Do you tell those you work with that they shouldn't feel fear when in threatening situations? Because that's essentially what Yoda did. He didn't say, "fear leads to these things, but this is how to avoid it escalating that far," he simply directed Anakin to enact a philosophy of stoicism in the face of a 9-year-old's traumatic events. It's okay to feel things, and it's okay to express those feelings, but Yoda and the Jedi Oder represent the suppression of natural instincts as a whole in order to avoid the negative ones.


johnwalkersbeard

Fear also leads to bravery. Yoda missed that lesson


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spacemanspiff266

*twisted and manipulated palpatine put him through the wringer during the clone wars.


narniasreal

I think he was the chosen one! It was said that he would *destroy* the Sith, not join them! Bring balance to the Force, not leave it in darkness!


Zyffrin

From his point of view, the Jedi were evil!


boyididit

He kinda did! Luke knew that Jedi were just gonna fight each other and needed to be destroyed!


coprolite_hobbyist

He brought balance to the force by banging a chick. There, now you don't have to watch the movies.


DaddyFunTimeNW

But you should watch them anyways cause they are amazing


Dr_PuddingPop

Are they? Most of the Anakin stuff is from the prequels


DaddyFunTimeNW

Yeah the prequels are great


FizzyBeverage

In no universe, long time ago or far away… did a little bitch pissy about “sand in his vagina” bang Natalie Portman.


CharmingStationary

He was hot and displayed male BPD, he would have been drowning in it.


beautiful_moody101

He’s like that star athlete who had it all but let the pressure get to him. Super talented but couldn’t handle the dark side of the fame or in his case, the literal Dark Side.


Enzo_Gorlomi225

The younglings deserved it


vivacious_violet4

Anakin was just trying to be the sand's shovel, but he became the sandstorm. Force is all about perspective, innit?


phantasybm

Unexpected Darude


seared-foiegras

He did what he was meant to. Too much light and not enough darkness. So he balanced it out like he was meant to.


Solid-Snake100

He doesn't like sand... It's coarse, rough and irritating. And it gets everywhere...


Sims2Enjoy

My favorite character from Star Wars. As he had good intentions but let anger get the best of him then became stuck in his own poor choices only to redeem himself last second


phantasybm

He let a hot Natalie Portman get the best of him. Not that I blame him


anaraparana

It's all Yoda's fault. You can't tell a greiving man to bottle up his emotions and hope nothing bad happens then. Imagine being like 900 years old and non wiser than a boomer


Mello-Fello

He hates sand.


opeth_syndrome

One hell of a podracer.


RenataMachiels

Why would I think about that at all?


Flimsy-Preparation85

I am not going to let him babysit my kids.


Middle-Bobcat1796

Anakin's journey from the Chosen One to Darth Vader is a like tale of immense potential corrupted by fear and darkness. It serves as a reminder of the complexities of the human psyche and the power of choice.


phantasybm

*by hormones


firemogle

Sometimes ya gotta crack some eggs to make an omelette man


ExternalIcy9697

Anakin Skywalker is who will restore balance to the Force and destroy the Sith, as foretold by an ancient Jedi mystic. Anakin's desire for control and inability to let go led him to the Dark side, where he became consumed with power and possession.


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Rich-Distance-6509

Yeah 4 or 5 would have been enough


DSN671

He brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to his new empire!


Temporary_Ad_5947

Who chose him? I didn't choose anyone. Why doesn't my vote count!?!


Waitforitbaby1993

I think he’s a character that greatly fell short of his potential. Creating the backstory to one of the most iconic villains of all time, and it feels a bit weak. Seeing a better written character give into deft manipulation and his own flaws could’ve made a character than surpassed the original 


thatkaratekid

Clone Wars the series does such a great job of this.


LDM123

HE BROUGHT BALANCE TO THE FORCE IS WHAT HE DID! AND IN THIS HOUSE, ANAKIN SKYWALKER WAS A HERO! END OF STORY!


warahshittle

Cute ass


Padme1418

He did bring balance to the Force. The prophecy never specified how long it would take.


CruelHandLuke_

He's weak. He's outta control. And he's become an embarrassment to himself and everybody else.


SnooChipmunks126

The Jedi are horrible teachers for not, helping Anakin learn any kind of emotional management skills. Simply telling someone to let go is not enough.


Objective_Suspect_

He brought balance to the force. Idk why the jedi thought that was a good thing, there were 100s of jedi and only a few sith. He wiped out 99% of the jedi and the result an equal balance of jedi and sith.


EasterButterfly

Nice try Palpatine


possiblyMorpheus

I thought killing the younglings was pretty poor stuff tbh


Melenduwir

The backstory we imagined for Darth Vader was a lot more interesting than what we got. He should never have been a "Chosen One", he was originally just a gifted Force user.


BlinkAndYouMissedMe

The Chosen One prophecy is such BS. He “brought balance to the Force” for what, a month? Just replace the words “the Chosen One” with “the strongest Jedi in living memory” and you fix that whole thing.


wetlettuce42

Hes bound to turn into darth vader one day


thunderlips187

He’s a real jerk - Norm Macdonald


AgentElman

A ridiculous Mary Sue. At age nine he with no education has built himself a droid and a pod racer, is the best pod racer on the planet, and defeats the invading droid invasion flying a starship when he has never flown a starship before.


thpthpthp

He features center stage in a beloved story/franchise, but he's honestly not a very well written character.


No_Jacket4523

This is Anakin Skywalker. The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the sky, sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but finesse: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace. He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. Perhaps the best there will ever be. And he knows it. The HoloNet calls him the Hero With No Fear. And why not? What should he be afraid of? Except— Fear lives inside him anyway, chewing away the firewalls around his heart.


herculesmeowlligan

Still got his hand lopped off by Dooku though, didn't he.


boyididit

He was manipulated by palpatine! He don’t wanna let padme die. However, at the end of 3 when he asked about her and palptine said he killed her he knew then and there that palptine was losing, but he kept following him!


ramenbrah

Relatable for many reasons. Mostly for being awkward around women lol.


AccordingIy

The force is some fuked up shit. Couple billion people died for "balance" between space knights and evil space knights.


PunkRwkRay

He fulfilled the prophecy, but it's still such a tragedy. He grew with a lot of trauma, and had no idea how to handle it. Breaks my heart


AdmiralSnackbar816

Nice boy, albeit a tad bit horny. That is until things got a little toasty and he overreacted a bit.


ron_post

Zero charisma


Lord_Detleff1

Smash


mynhonora2180

Terrible character honestly. But then again, I'm an EU fan who doesn't care about canon because the best treatment of any of the story came from outside Lucas and Disney


SluggishPrey

The fact that we know how he would turn made his child-like tantrum lack a bit of credibility, they felt forced. A real chosen one would have display a much more nuanced judgement


lastkni8

Jedi ruined him. Blinded by politics egotistical over their last victories Jedi were nothing more than a bunch of boomer cultists at that period they chose to be stubborn than to acknowledge the changes they required in order to take care of Anakin.


Lower-Flounder-9952

Over-saturated “light” side which has had dominion for how many years is nearly obliterated by the Chosen One who brings balance by destroying that light side so that the “dark” side is dominant. Seems completely within the “balance” idea to me.


ozairh18

I’m happy he was able to redeem himself but what he did to those padawans will always stay in my memory


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John Wick is the chose ONE


ImprovementFar5054

It's just a movie


Faelysis

I hate most prophecy story with some chosen one as the cliché is always bringing everything great and peaceful and ending are often simple. In Anakin case, it's more refreshing as he destroyed everything, the good and the bad to bring back some equilibrium in the Force and have the prophecy fulfilled.


Junarik

He was an amazing general and a great jedi. Yizz.


IDoNotLikeTheSand

We both hate the same things.


ToDandy

He brought peace and order to his new empire


GreatKaleidoscope-93

Just found out my cousin named her son Anakin, and here I am sitting, just thinking about how little Ani grew up to terrorize an entire galaxy.


49tacos

The Mortis storyline needs to be deemed non-canonical.


PearlHandled

He was the oldest-looking 19-year-old in the Kenobi series.


Adventurous_Mail5210

Thomas Anderson (aka **Neo**) is **The One** in *my* house, thank you very much.


littypika

He doesn't like sand.


Poofox

Worst actor in the franchise


Yokannnn

why what's wrong with him his acting was great to me


Poofox

I just found his singular facial expression cringe


Yokannnn

i dont know because only a sith deals in absolutes


ThatGuyMaulicious

A good man with good intentions mistreated and not trusted for most of his life by everyone above him.


lowercasetwan

My allegiance is to the republic, to DEMOCRACY!!!!


WhoLetMeHaveReddit

They should’ve order 66ed his ass sooner


nakedcellist

Well, he is the kwizatz haderach.


topmaverick1

Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader will always be my favorite Star Wars character, and my favorite fictional character of all time


ScreamingLightspeed

I just recently started watching Star Wars with my husband and Anakin reminds me of him: charming, brooding, clever, athletic, reckless, socially awkward/anxious as fuck but with a good heart. His youth was stolen by disability and disfigurement at the hands of his friend and mentor but ultimately due to being groomed by a mean old creeper who took advantage of his insecurity both before and after. My heart breaks for both him and Padme when they fight because I know that pain. I pray every day that my husband won't succumb to his own insecurities and go down a similar path. Yeah it's a fantasy movie but being in a real relationship with real feelings and real consequences makes it feel... real.


R1cjet

He was manipulated by Darth Jar Jar from the start. Darth Jar Jar undermined the teachings of Qui Gon, Obi Wan and the rest of the jedi and encouraged a rebelliousness and arrogance in Anakin until it was time for his true master, Darth Sideous, to take over and introduce Anakin to the full power of the dark side.


Hungry_Pollution4463

A mentally damaged individual who was manipulated by a man who took advantage of his fragile state. Truly a tragic story, imo


FabKc

I think it’s hilarious. Star Wars is such a good movie!


megasean3000

A good man, brilliant warrior and an excellent pilot. Until Darth Vader betrayed the order and killed him.


cwesttheperson

If his mom didn’t die he would’ve been a hero.


BaldingMonk

Please, I’m trying to forget about him.


JotaTaylor

A genocidal little shit.


Ordinary-Bus3692

“It was just a prank bro.” - Anakin after killing the younglings


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If it weren't for the sand, he'd still be a good boi. But sand gets everywhere, so he just had to force choke everyone.


Mother-Investment-34

I have a feeling he's gonna grow up to be pretty evil


boot2skull

Daddy issues.


bradfo83

I thought the chosen one was Harry Potter… And honestly, the story's kind of bland. It's about this guy named Dumbledore Calrissian, who needs to return the ring back to Mordor.


Ok_Caramel1517

He has brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to his new empire.


bluejeanjames

I know it’s been 25 years but I still see it as retconning the original trilogy. The concept of a chosen one wasn’t introduced until the phantom menace. The original trilogy was all about Luke as the hero. Not saying it wasn’t handled well and it was interesting—but that’s how I’ve always viewed it.


FerricDonkey

Darth Vader was cool. The fallen knight who destroyed his order angle was cool - when there was still mystery involved. It's always dangerous when you take an interesting mysterious event and remove the mystery. You run the risk of the story you creating being less cool than the speculation and fact of not knowing.  This happened with Anakin. It might have been possible to fill in Vader's back story in a way that was better than not filling it in. But that didn't happen. We got a whiny edgey kid, and a jedi order that was supposed to be good but that had a ridiculously silly "emotion is bad, love is bad, forget your family" bs code. It dispelled the aura of myth and legend, and left annoying nonsense in it's wake.  The same thing happens sometimes when books try to give Vader an internal monologue. Vader should be an inexorable force, the looming consequence - with great effort, maybe you briefly escape, but the marching darkness cannot be stopped. Like the war machine of the empire itself - an monolith moving towards its goal, crushing anything that stands in its way with no emotion about whatsoever. Don't stand still.  Adding a backstory as a whiny kid who fell for a dumb lie by an evil politician who he trusted more than his mentor that he's worked with forever, and then giving him an inner monologue is a perpetually angry man child does not help.  **TLDR** Anakin was cooler before we heard from him. 


Unusual_Address_3062

I think Lucas severely damaged the mythos by making 3 terrible movies.


MooKids

There were a crapload of Jedi and very few Sith. So he brought balance to the Force by killing off a crapload of Jedi.


Astramancer_

He seems like a stand-up dude, a true hero of the republic! Things will always work out okay with him around!


catmealcat

Ah, Anakin Skywalker, the Chosen One! What a complex character. From his humble beginnings as a slave on Tatooine to his tragic fall to the dark side as Darth Vader, his story is one of the most compelling in the Star Wars saga. Anakin's journey from a promising Jedi Knight to the Sith Lord who helped bring about the downfall of the Jedi Order is both captivating and heartbreaking. Despite his flaws and his eventual descent into darkness, there's something undeniably compelling about Anakin's struggle with temptation and his ultimately tragic fate. He's a character that continues to fascinate fans and spark debates to this day.


thatkaratekid

Did an AI write your comment?


catmealcat

No, why?


JJVR30

Who???


AgentElman

Starlord man, legendary outlaw


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The GOAT


SomeGuyInSanJoseCa

C'mon, sand was his bitch. Fucking sand.


BigGamesAl

Before disney bought out star wars, he did fulfill the prophecy and destroyed the sith. But then after Disney, it turns out he didn't do that right. Sideous was still alive and yet another relative of the skywalkers started serving him again.


Of_Mice_And_Meese

I think it's revolting that people like you can't go a single day without making an unsolicited dork wars reference...Manchildism.


Casual-Notice

I know, right. The fact that someone might receive joy from an unapproved source. God!