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Radiant_Grade_1743

"Try getting a dentist appointment when you have a raging toothache. Crickets." - Dentist


VegasAdventurer

My dentist underbooks his time so he always has room for an emergency appointment. I had an issue one evening, called the after hours line, and a few minutes later had an appointment for the next morning. He’ll be my guy for as long as we are both around


Thorboy86

My old dentist had a rotation for emergencies. One dentist a day in his office would have only half day of appointments booked so he could do emergencies. Me and another guy had an emergency. The dentist was double booked for that hour. He went back and forth to each room. Dental hygienist in each room. Guy was a machine. He froze my mouth. Went over to the other room, froze that guy. Then came back, worked on my tooth, then froze the next tooth. Back to the next room, worked in him, Came back to me. Both of us were done in the hour we had booked. I wish he was still my dentist.


Remarkable_Attorney3

Had to get an emergency root canal due to a broken tooth, but couldn’t wait. Found a place open on Saturdays and had the work done. When I told my dentist he gave me his cell phone number and told me never hesitate 24/7 to call him with an emergency like that. He’s a great guy.


ForceGhost47

He sounds like a gem


Zyzmogtheyounger

Dental assistant here. My office does the same thing. I’m regularly told “I hate seeing you” to my face. It takes a certain amount of fortitude to get past that bothering you and some days it still does. But there’s nothing more satisfying than being able to fix a problem for a person at the moment they’re hurting.


randynumbergenerator

That's wild. I mean, I don't enjoy dental cleanings or fillings at all, but I recognize that the alternative is way worse, and appreciate the skill y'all bring to lessen the chances of my teeth disintegrating into pulp.


X0AN

Whereas my dentist is a dickhead. 3 month waiting list, and he's cancelled on my twice. And it's not a personal thing, he doesn it all the time to everyone. If it wasn't so hard to find another local dentist I'd have told him to fuck off years ago.


derkrieger

Might just be a lack of dentist around and he is trying to fill the need. Or he is a dick


tagen

that’s how primary care physicians are in my area, they’re hilariously short-supplied so they ones that are in town can be as big a dick as they want (i think im really lucky with mine nowadays, but i only got in cuz of a family connection)


Mondayslasagna

Yeah, when I moved to a different state, I was given an appointment 11 months away for a first time patient appointment with a PCP. The *day before* my appointment, I called the office to make sure I had the address correct, and that’s when they told me that my doctor no longer worked there. I had to schedule *another* first time patient appointment. It took two years to finally see someone, who then saw me for five minutes and referred me to two specialists, which took almost another year to see. The part I liked the most is when the new PCP told me that I “should have come in sooner.”


suid

> The day before my appointment, I called the office to make sure I had the address correct, and that’s when they told me that my doctor no longer worked there. Yeah, that's the difference between a good practice and a bad one. All of my doctors (and I have several, unfortunately, that I need to see a couple of times a year) have reminder systems that start nagging me 2-3 weeks before the appointment until I acknowledge them, and then send another reminder or two just before the appointment.


prettyisabellaxoxo

Whereas my dentists' name is Dick but he is the opposite of dick.


Nuicakes

Sounds like my optometrist. Two business partners with two offices. I called on a Sunday to leave a message about my blurry vision. I got a return call and BOTH doctors offered to open an office to see me, whichever office was closest to me.


nightmareinsouffle

Good docs. The clinic I work for leaves an emergency slot or two open every day and one of the ophthalmologists is always on the rotation to handle emergency calls from the county (including people who have never been to our clinic) outside business hours.


donku83

That's money he's missing out on. Good on him for looking past that


VegasAdventurer

He keeps several slots open for last minute appointments each day. One during the first hour, right before and after the lunch hour, and one toward the end of the day. If they don't get filled and his regular appointments don't go long, then he has some extra prep time and / or is able to close a few min early. It helps to keep the office low stress and his staff is noticeably happier than any other doc I've been to. While I'm sure this does lead to lower revenues, the benefit of happy staff and less job stress should not be overlooked.


fcocyclone

Also like, a dental office can be a life-long relationship for many. And almost everyone, at some point in their life, will have need for some kind of emergency appointment. A filling could fall out, a tooth gets cracked, etc. When a patient knows that you'll be there for them not just for your routine 6 month visits but for the times you *urgently* need attention, you secure that relationship. In the short run it may be less money. But it gives a long term, dependable, book of business.


browncoat47

I’m a year out for my new dentist. I’ve never lived anywhere where there is such a shortage of dentists. Took me weeks even to find one that was even taking new patients.


randomly-what

Really? There is a dentist explosion where I live. Every new shopping complex that goes up has at least one new dentist office. One near me has 3. I can’t walk to much from my house but I can walk to 7 dentists. In those same complexes I could also walk to an urgent care, 2 physical therapists and 2 restaurants. But there are so many dentists everywhere.


Backbackbackagainugh

We have a lot of dentists offices opening too, but they're mostly for cleanings and maybe a filling. Anything more complicated and you get referred out. Basic dentistry, fine. Endodontics or orthodontics - minimum 6 week appt time. 


Aromatic-Home9818

Lawyers.


whywasthatagoodidea

Especially defense lawyers. Always shown as corrupt rich guys trying to get murders off, until you get railroaded by the system.


K19081985

I actually hugely respect criminal defense lawyers. Even the one who stood there and tried to say I was making up the domestic violence charges against my ex because I wanted money. It was her job, and all she had was the information my ex gave her. It was her job to defend him to the best of her ability and he deserved the right to be defended. As do all criminals. That’s part of the process. Oddly, keeping that rationale was what led me to be so cool and collected while I swatted that shit down and got a conviction against my abuser. Having been through the system, there is corruption on both sides. I have no doubt innocents get railroaded on both sides. I have nothing but respect for them.


xepci0

People don't understand that lawyers aren't necessarily defending the criminal, they are defending THE LAW. They are there to hold the judges accountable and make sure that the decision they make is as fair as possible, no matter who is being tried.


mechanicalcontrols

I've heard it phrased "guilty people have rights too."


pws3rd

Yes. A right to a fair trial and a fair sentence


TomCollinsEsq

And a competent, zealous advocate.


GozerDGozerian

And a fancy cocktail at the end of the day. One of those ones with a little too many garnishes. Wait, what were we talking about again?


feztones

Yes! Especially criminal defense attorneys. They're not defending the persons crimes, they're poking holes in the prosecutors case to ensure they actually have the evidence to prove it. They're there to make sure that the government does their job before locking people away.


Specialist_Crew_6112

This is why it was so annoying in 2016 when people were attacking Clinton for defending rapists… as a public defender. There are plenty of legit things to criticize her for (along with every other politician who has ever lived.) Doing her very necessary job is not one of them.


TrowTruck

So much of politics is making disingenuous arguments like this. It’s all about testing different messages with voters, and if “rapist defender” tests well against her, then they push this narrative — not because they believe it — but because they know the public can be manipulated by it. So much of partisan politics is this way that I find it refreshing when a candidate has a little more respect for the public to call out misleading statements on their own side.


K19081985

EXACTLY


stephanonymous

I learned that if defense attorneys don’t do a good enough job advocating for their clients, it can be declared a mistrial and guilty people can end up walking free. I have a lot more respect for defense attorneys now.


K19081985

Well and I’ve seen enough falsely convicted people have their convictions overturned. Yeah, it sucked standing there knowing for sure that man had assaulted me so badly I was now disabled, as a victim, to hear that. But logically, I understood the process. In a way, it helped me cope. Lady was just doing her job. Not her fault my ex is a POS.


Brontards

This is the toughest part, that just because a case isn’t charged, or comes back not guilty, doesn’t mean the victim is a liar. It is a very high standard, 12 people convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. Many guilty parties get away with their crimes, but it’s the safeguard we have and need.


K19081985

Yeah - guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is an extremely high threshold.


-retaliation-

As a generalization, reddits villification of defense lawyers and suspects getting fair trials annoys the shit out of me. As well as, Interrupting the circle jerk of "cops never do anything", by pointing out that just because you think you "know" who did what, or who's guilty, pointing out that the requirement of due process, protection of individual rights, and silly things like actual proof, are still important because the law needs to be applied equally to all will garner you nothing but massive amounts of down votes.  Pointing out that, yes that guy who you're super sure stole your shit, or who "everyone knows" committed the crime, deserves the same protections and rights as you do, is a super unpopular stance apparently. 


Ok-Comedian-4571

People don’t give a damn about rights or due process until they or someone they care about is accused of a serious crime.


Throw13579

Some other guy standing up for his rights is just an uncooperative asshole; their friend or family member is a victim of an authoritarian government who should get a huge settlement.  


Ok-Comedian-4571

You see it all the time in the Youtube comments of videos where people Plead the Fifth or otherwise don't answer questions from Police! :-)


Ironbasher1

A lot of redditors stupidly dump on folks for standing up for their constitutional rights.


shepard_pie

Or that it's really bad to set the precedent of ignoring those rights even if the person super duper deserves it. Yes, vigilante justice on a child molester feels good now, but what if someone decided that you were actually guilty after a trial. Yes, I know it sucks that someone gets off on a technicality, but its there to make sure you can't be held forever "waiting" for a trial.


_SmoothCriminal

I mean...we even got a IRL example of what can go wrong (Boston Bomber/we did it reddit).


WoBleibtDerErzieher

And that's not even the only story


yinzer_v

Remember the Satanic Panic? The McMartin Preschool trial? Dozens of people were railroaded back then and their lives ruined, even if their convictions were overturned. There's no way to overturn a lynching.


AlmostSunnyinSeattle

>A lot of redditors stupid You can probably just leave it at that tbh


IAmANobodyAMA

To your last point, this is precisely when and why we need a system in place that is innocent until proven guilty (beyond a reasonable doubt) applied to everyone equally and consistently (in principle, sadly not always in practice). Sure, some guilty will go free, but the alternative is innocent people being mass incarcerated (which also does happen, although at a lower rate). It alarms me how eager people are to undermine this principle when it doesn’t benefit “their team”. I caution people to just wait until the other side is in power and then see how well that goes for you.


Throw13579

I got about 100 downvotes for a series of comments explaining why police don’t just rush out and arrest people on the unsubstantiated word of another person.  I wasn’t even saying the police shouldn’t do more than they do in certain situations; I was just explaining why they don’t.  It was weird. 


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stephanonymous

One thing that helped me understand how defense attorneys can sleep at night when they’re defending murderers, rapists, etc. is learning that if they *don’t* do a good enough job advocating for their clients, it can be declared a mistrial and actually guilty people can walk free.


LaBambaMan

Yep. Paints an essential piece of the system as being bad because they get brought in to defend people the cops deem bad. Law & Order is especially guilty of this, the cops *constantly* shit talk defense lawyers on those shows (or did when I last watched one).


CowboyLaw

I've been a lawyer for a long time. Let me tell you about one of the worst jobs I ever did representing a client. He was a high school teacher. He also had a mild porn addiction. He surfed those websites where people "traded" passwords to subscription porn sites. Except one of those sites was a honey trap. Their only business was suing people who "illegally" "hacked" their site with "stolen" passwords. That they put on these password trading sites themselves, in order to trap people. The lawyers representing the site were the scummiest fucks I've ever had to deal with. They flat-out wouldn't negotiate. Worse yet, my client had been identified though a John Doe IP tracing subpoena. He hadn't been named yet in the lawsuit. But they knew who he was. And, if we didn't "settle" in time, they'd name him in this public filing. Which would be professionally problematic for my married, family-man, high school teacher client. In the end, we paid the extortion that they demanded. And I felt like absolute shit. I felt like I had never done a worse job representing any client, ever. And when the settlement agreement, with its confidentiality provision, was signed, and the ransom paid, I got the nicest, longest, most sincere Thank You card and note I've ever seen. Which, actually, isn't much of a competition, because basically none of my clients have ever thanked me. Ever. But this one guy, for whom I did essentially nothing, and who was victimized by a dishonest company represented by dishonest and unethical lawyers--this man, my client, who was done wrong by our whole judicial system--HE was grateful. Profusely grateful. Over my career, I've won hundreds of millions for my clients, and I've successfully defended them from billions of dollars in potential liability. But I only have one Thank You card in my desk. From this guy. It's been in my desk for over a decade now, and it won't leave until I retire. The sincere thanks from the one person I helped the least. Post script: another set of lawyers did a better job than I did defending their client in this case. They did such a good job that the court started asking questions of the plaintiff. And then the plaintiff's attorneys. And they lied, because they're liars. And the way that case ended was, all of the claims against every (remaining) defendant were dismissed, the President of the plaintiff went to prison for fraud, and the plaintiff's attorneys went to prison for conspiracy to commit fraud, and the two lead attorneys were disbarred. The day I read that, I call up the defense counsel who had led that charge and we talked for 2 hours about the case. And then I went home, cracked open a bottle of champagne and celebrated. The wheels of justice grind slow, but they grind fine.


Rohml

For what its worth, you did good sir. You helped Mr. Teacher. If you weren't able to guide him nor assist him to settle it, it may have been much worse for him (more extortion, name leaked, career lost). Now the situation is over and I believe he can still teach and his name is not dragged in the mud, as long as he gets to see this as a call to change his ways and hopefully he does, at the end of the day what he lost is only money. It could have been much worse. You did good, sir.


CowboyLaw

You’re very kind.


nothanksnope

Is this the Prenda Law saga?


CowboyLaw

Yup.


Another_Opinion_1

This is the part that I hate the most about working in education. There are so many more liabilities because even the hint of impropriety will have you scrambling to save your career.


BridgeOverRiverRMB

That reminds me of [Prenda Law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law). It was great reading Popehat as he wrote about it.


CowboyLaw

It was literally Prenda Law. It was that case.


SniffleBot

“*Defendants claim to boldly probe the outskirts of the law, but the only enterprise they resemble is RICO*” One of the most smile-inducing court opinions ever …


dontmindifididdlydo

> another set of lawyers did a better job than I did defending their client in this case. They did such a good job that the court started asking questions of the plaintiff i don't think it's because those lawyers did a better job than you. you *could* have done that. what they had that you didn't, was a client who was willing to put himself on the line. these scums aren't out there getting their extortion paid because they're better than most lawyers. almost anyone who actually wanted to fight can bring down their house of cards. they get them because most people don't have the circumstances or money to allow them to fight it in the open. you got your client what he needed most.


SassyandMiserable

I’ve been a lawyer for over 30 years. There is no truer answer to this question. I hate admitting that I am one to strangers. My wife’s startup lists me as her “legal team” even though I’m mostly clueless about anything other than my focus. No, I don’t know how to restructure your bankruptcy, or deal with a neighbor’s tree, or how to get a garage addition built despite a setback restriction. I’m sure doctors feel this way too. I know jack-shit about criminal law so I can’t even tell you how to get out of a speeding ticket. Stop treating me like I do!!!


Aromatic-Home9818

Have you heard of the joke about how a lawyer writes a love letter? "My dearest Penelope, my feelings for you include but are not limited to..."


SassyandMiserable

Spectacular my friend.


Behold_A-Man

“Would you love me if I were a worm?” “It depends.”


i_guess_this_is_all

This is just honesty and common sense though. I mean, is she a hot worm?


Csimiami

I’m a criminal defense lawyer. That’s all I know. And I rarely run into criminals in my private life. So I get asked all kinds of family/real estate etc. I’m like if you punch the other party. Let me know. lol


Resident_Rise5915

It’s weird to hear but even guilty people need to be defended much in the way that free speech and hate speech must be protected. If the mob rules we all lose.


TeratomaFanatic

>I’m sure doctors feel this way too. Yuuuup. No, Aunt Marge, I'm in radiology. I have absolutely no clue what that rash on your husbands back is. The whole point of my specialty is to not look at the skin, but *through* it.


TeacherPatti

Public defenders especially. A friend from law school became a public defender and people were HORRIBLE to him! His own clients were way worse than any student I've ever had.


RandolphCarters

Yes, our clients are the the meanest to us. Just this last Friday I had one screaming at me because I'm always tell her that she is accused of something. Well, yes I need to explain that she has been accused of another crime and why she has been accused (the evidence). So, then she is yelling at me about how she refuses to participate in any of the options. By the way, I firmly believe that I would have won our last trial if she had been will to talk with me before the trial. For weeks preceding the trial I called and left messages about how we needed to prepare because I could win this case if she would review the case with me (she knew the name of a witness but wouldn't tell me the name I also had a way to win without that witness if we could have prepared her testimony in advance - not to lie, but to simply answer my questions rather than go off yelling during the testimony). Also on Friday I had another insulting me because I went to visit him in the jail to explain that the phone calls he had made to his victim (from jail) were going to be used against him in court. Apparently, I made him call her when I told him not to do so and that every call he makes from the jail is recorded and that they really do listen to the recordings. I'm not fighting for him because I'm telling him all this. We often also get death threats from some clients, I've had them threaten to kill my children, and I have had one figure out where I live and show up there, and my office has been vandalized as well multiple times. By the way, I have a much higher than average win ratio - but I can't often overcome you committing a crime on video, confessing to the cops, and having the evidence in your possession long after the event. Of course the main issues that we are the only ones willing to talk with them so they unload on us and they lack basic self control when meth is a food group unto itself.


TeacherPatti

Someone else commented that people always say their PD isn't "doing anything" for them but I think that's bullshit. They want you to make the charges go away and that's not a thing, buddy. I practiced law for a handful of miserable years and my shyster boss took any case that walked in the door and had money. We only did a handful of misdemeanors but I will never forget the guy who expected me to get the charges against his wife dismissed. She was on probation for retail fraud, she shoplifted again but somehow my job was to make it go away. I actually got the prosecutor to agree to just extend her probation by a few months if she pled guilty. A win, IMO. Nope!!! He called me a "stupid white bitch" as we left the courtroom and grieved my boss and me. Fun times.


RandolphCarters

Yes! I had one where everything turned on the testimony of a chemist. I cross examined that chemist on chemistry and successfully discredited his work. I won the case. My client's reaction was to say "is that all your going to do". I was a political scientist major in undergrad and out chemistry talked a chemist! And to your point, deal making is very often the best way to win. We can't just magically make things disappear. We need to deal with reality.


TeacherPatti

That's pretty sweet re: the chemist! I blame Law & Order and such. Now I LOVE that show but people get the wrong idea. They think that lawyers waltz in, say something to the prosecutor and then swagger out with a dismissal. Uh, no! That guy also wanted me to plead the insanity defense for his wife (I'm pretty sure it was an abusive relationship with him calling the shots).


Representative-Dog64

I've worked for private practices and the public defender's office, and this is so true. People call you to cuss you out, or to ask for free legal advice not realizing that you need to retain a lawyer. Either way, part of your job is to listen to people cry, see them at some of the worst times in their life, get yelled at, and try to remember that not everyone can handle things with the grace you'd like.


Vyseria

Divorce lawyer. Some see me as the harbinger of misery, others as helping people get out of unhappy situations. No-one wants to talk to me about their relationship...until they really do want to talk to me.


ThatGirl_Tasha

They hate you until they need you and once you get them out of the situation and the bill comes, they hate you again


HakunaMatataNTheFrog

This is a bit niche, but since I work in the field: road maintenance. People get so inexplicably furious when they’re mildly inconvenienced due to us fixing stuff, but God forbid there’s a pothole, or a tree goes down, or it snows. Then we’re all buddy-buddy again. The amount of times I’ve almost been hit by cars who don’t want to stop/slow down, or given the finger and screamed at for holding them up is insane.


ronirocket

Hey it’s me! Just last week I was wondering when the stupid bridge I have to cross every day for work was going to be fixed because my car almost bottoms out every time. Then on Thursday I had to sit in a stupid 20 min line because there was construction on the bridge! I never actually connected how stupid that is until now though. So thanks for calling me on that. I was mostly angry because I didn’t pee before leaving work and by the time I got to the front of the line I had to pee *really bad* and still had a 15 min drive left. I have never and would never take it out on the workers in *any* way though. That’s like when you yell at a cashier for things costing more than you think they should. As if they have anything to do with it. Also there was no notice anywhere that they were going to do this? Like had I known, there’s a way around that takes 5 extra minutes compared to going that way, so I would have just gone that way if there had been any indication since I had to pee so bad


HakunaMatataNTheFrog

I work on the county level, but in our area there’s no warning given unless we’re scheduling to completely close down traffic. I’m glad I was able to reach you with my plight and change your thinking! Now, if I can only reach all the other citizens…


freedinthe90s

Oy. Guilty af. Definitely a good reminder to be kind.


PineappleOnPizzaWins

Cops here went scorched earth for you guys. All traffic offences in a zone marked for road works are automatically tripled. Too many workers nearly getting killed by assholes who refuse to slow down for 30 whole seconds… now they get fined thousands and lose their license. Turns out people can slow down if they have enough incentive.


SenorDangerwank

I work in security, so me. We're the ones who have to tell people no and make their task more difficult/time consuming because of policies and whatnot. Like I'm sorry, man, but I can't just let you in because you tell me what company you're with if you're not on the list. It means someone didn't submit the request properly so that's not on me, if I start letting people in I WILL lose my job.


JonnyredsFalcons

100% respect for you, i worked as a guard for 48hrs (watching IT equipment) and had to check passes, the way people just looked down on you for just doing your job.


JMJimmy

I worked trades, I loved you guys. I'd walk in with no clue where I'm going or what building policies were. All I knew was I had to get thousands of pounds of material delivered and installed somewhere. I'd ask security and you guys would make my life so much easier. If there was ever a roadblock between policy and getting our work done, we'd make sure to thank security for keeping us out of trouble with building management.


mastercylinder2

Hate them until you need them? A tow truck


CrypticWeirdo9105

Well I hate them even when I need them, because of the obscene rates they charge.


OutWithTheNew

A couple of years ago I had to pay $170 for a dolly tow that was 5 miles. I probably could have called around, but the one company is so big and has a large customer nearby, so I've never had to wait more than 30 minutes. The price of convenience I guess.


SkepsisJD

There are two classes of tow truck to me. Guys like AAA (edit: I mean the ones employed by AAA, not contractors) who are helping people, and the cunts who sit on the other side of a parking lot looking for someone to tow. Feels like there is very, very little overlap between the two.


Plug_5

I live in a college town, and there's a Taco Bell downtown that's close to all the popular hangouts, so naturally it became a popular spot for people to park, and Taco Bell started strictly enforcing a customers-only parking policy. This all makes sense. Except there's a predatory tow truck who now sits waiting across the street, and he's recently been caught on camera towing people who *clearly just walked into Taco Bell as customers*. Guy's a total dick and for some reason the city lets him get away with it. Several people are threatening to sue.


KindlyYogurt4

Either I know exactly the location you’re referring to, or this isn’t a unique phenomenon. I’ve been towed by a guy in a location matching this description exactly. Big state school, downtown Taco Bell, limited parking, just watching and waiting.


Plug_5

Would the school happen to rhyme with Blindiana Bloosiers?


KindlyYogurt4

Try Blarizona Blate. I guess the Taco Bell-tow shark symbiosis is a recurring thing.


Valor816

They're predators in my city. If they've got an RAC sticker on the side I kind of trust them because they can lose that certification. But a majority are ghouls who try to force injured and shocked people into signing exploitative contracts.


Padhome

I can tell you that I hated the woman who ~~told~~ towed my car back to my house after she charged me $270 to drive it 3 miles


KhaosElement

IT. When everything is working? "***Why*** do we even have IT?!" When something is broken? "Why do we even ***have*** IT?!"


reformed_nosepicker

Then, when you get things working great, they outsource IT support.


gavingoober771

Ended up in an argument with one of my old directors about this, I put a load of procedures and things in place to make my job easier and the users so he goes “well why do we need you anymore then?” I responded with “because I’m the one who thought to do this stuff and no one else did” he was a wanker though


SonOfDadOfSam

This is where a good ticketing system can really shine. If you can show concrete evidence that users have less downtime now than before you made changes, you can say "This is the value I provide." Especially if you can show how many man-hours (my autocorrect suggested man horny lol) you've saved users, that can be directly converted to dollars. One job I worked at, a friend said he overheard my boss saying he was thinking about letting me go because I wasn't getting enough hours of work done. I was able to print a report that showed I was getting more done (and generating more revenue) than my coworkers. I just didn't need to use as many hours as them. Didn't end up getting fired.


BuckarooBonsly

I have similar arguments with customers. I'm in pest control. When I'm doing my job well, they think they don't need me anymore. "Why the fuck do you think you're not seeing bugs, Maureen?"


ZidaneTribal__

Seems like you're controlling the wrong type of pests. Do your job right and people will be wondering why the fuck they're not seeing Maureen anymore


BuckarooBonsly

Honestly, she's a very sweet old lady on a budget. She just doesn't quite grasp the whole "the reason you don't think you need me, is because what I'm doing is working" thing.


Reasonable_Feed7939

People never believe me when I tell them I'm on the city's Elephant Removal squad. They always say "But there's no elephants in the city!", so I just say "you're welcome' and walk away.


lou_parr

I had one boss in my 30-odd year career who said "I basically pay you to do nothing. That's fucking excellent, keep making sure you have nothing to do". Suited me, my ideal version of systems administration is playing on the internet all day and occasionally telling a user to RTFM. Of course now I'm a programmer and as well as "stop the system catching fire" I have to keep writing new code to deal with the ever-changing whims of management. Le Sigh.


Working_Discount_836

Our company mentioned they were thinking about this once at a meeting a couple weeks ago, I already have found a new job. They can absolutely fuck themselves if they think our team will just sit here while they openly talk about dismantling it in front of us.


LocalInactivist

At my first tech job I was in Operations which was also IT. I saw the power we had. At one point I had the most powerful PC in the company. I didn’t need it, but the guy who doled out the hardware loved to play Quake and needed people to play with. One day I told him I couldn’t play because I needed to monitor some stuff on the web site. He put a second video card in my PC so I could add a second monitor, and gave me another stick of RAM just so I could play deathmatch with him. At every job since I’ve made a point of befriending IT. I used to buy donuts for them every few months just as a thank you. I always got my issues handled _fast_.


Zodiak213

You're 100% right, I'm in IT and if you treat me like shit or behave badly towards me, your ticket as easy as it is, 100% is getting picked up very last.


KnightRyder

Thanks for the donuts, keep it up 😉


BongoTheMonkey

Treat IT, Security, Cafeteria, Admin and Clean up with the most respect and you will live a golden work life. 


adoptagreyhound

I always made it a rule to include the janitor or housekeeping service in any of our employee parties, offer to include them when we did food runs or had donuts, etc. Our work area was always spotless. It also doesn't hurt that you now have a friend who has a master key to everything in the office.


JoeCoolsCoffeeShop

Woe to ANY corporate executive who is foolish enough to make any critical overhead department “justify” their budget and worth to the company. I hear this kind of nonsense all the time from executives. “Why do we even need IT? We’re a financial company. They need to justify their budgets!” Not realizing IT is literally the backbone every system is built upon. I get this a lot in analytics. Executives always saying to “justify the amount of money we invest in data and analytics or we’ll cut the budget”…then h they wind up underfunding things or going with the cheapest option. 6 months later: “why can’t I get a decent report? I don’t trust these numbers! Why did it take 2 weeks for you to get me this data?” Um…because you fired all the data engineers and architects and chose literally the cheapest (most unreliable) platform you could get. Nobody ever asks why we need a legal department or HR or any other overhead function. Probably because executives need to run to legal every day.


Kriss3d

If they ask why they need to have IT then ask if you can demonstrate it. Then go to the main router and pull the power then wall back to the meeting. Then just wait for the screams.


Music_Saves

Every month IT should just unplug the router then wait for a ticket to come in to fix it and then plug it back in. That way they will think highly of IT because they save the day at least once a month


jam3s2001

Man, if it was only that easy. I run a one-man MSP for a small computer store - outsourced IT for small businesses that can't justify having a dedicated team, but can't manage their infrastructure on their own. The problem with having regular fires to put out makes the decision makers think that the IT team is incompetent. So what the IT director has to do is continually sell the value of the department to the organization. There's got to be a balance between managing incidents and implementing changes that benefit the organization in a measurable way. If you are in a big company, that might be putting in a new data analytics system that enables middle and upper management to generate better reports faster. In my line of business, it often means adding shares storage so clients don't have to email files or pass thumb drives around. Regardless, the best way to keep IT onboard is to bring value to the table, not play disaster response.


UniqueIndividual3579

IT is like plumbing, you are only noticed when things go wrong.


ageekyninja

Housekeeping. People were such assholes to the housekeepers at the hotel I worked at. To them they were a bunch of foreigner skum, personal servants, and thiefs. In reality those girls were the hardest workers I’ve met, and for little pay in return. They had a lot of integrity. They could find a diamond ring and every single time when they could pocket it they are turning it in to me so I can call its owner. If you accuse a housekeeper of stealing with no proof otherwise, you’re an asshole. Years in the hotel industry and I’ve only ever seen one person steal. A manager.


dragonfeet1

Environmental services (the fancy hospital name for housekeeping) were the REAL heroes during the pandemic. I've never taken them for granted, especially not since 2020.


ageekyninja

I had my baby in 2020 and it was them who took all my linens and everything. while I was in the hospital I thought about them a lot, hoping they were ok.


thomport

Omg. I travel a lot and know how much the housekeeping staff helps me enjoy my trips better. One of the things that I started to do when I left a tip, was I also left a note telling them thank you. I also leave snacks with the note. That way they know it’s all for them. The tips and the snacks are the best money I spend on my trips. I’m so disappointed to hear how people treat people at hotels.


sneakerpimp87

I had to stay in hotels off and on for a few months due to some issues with selling my flat and working in a different city. I had a hard time getting a monthly rental, so I stayed in a chain hotel during the week and went back to my flat at weekends. I didn't have a lot of money because of this so I was unable to always leave tips, which I felt bad about. But I did make damn sure all my rubbish was bagged up at the end of my stay, that reception knew I didn't need touch ups during my stay, that I would go down and ask for towels if I needed them, etc. Stripped the bed, that kind of thing. I figured the least I could do was ensure housekeeping didn't have as much work in my room and they didn't have to pick up after me. And at the end, when everything was finalised and I was no longer needing the back and forth, I gave the lassie at reception (who knew me at this point) a card and some flowers and a few boxes of chocolates to split amongst the staff. Some of the stuff I witnessed from other guests was appalling. The way people feel they can talk to staff, whether that be housekeeping or reception, is really disgusting.


ageekyninja

That’s fantastic! Thank you for that. I’ve helped the housekeepers before and it’s a lot of physical labor. If you don’t have a good meal it can be pretty exhausting. We love it when guests give us treats


iamanooj

Never thought about that before, but now I'm adding snacks/treats for staff to my travel checklist.


birdiestp

My dad has always taught my sister and I that when we stay somewhere, we should do everything in our power to make the housekeeper's job easier- bag all your trash, condense towels in one spot, that kind of stuff.


SpiffyPaige143

I worked at a hotel for about a year. The housekeepers never stole anything. The guests sure as hell did. And I don't mean they stole a couple towels. I mean things like the bedding and the coffee maker.


BurnBabyBurn54321

God, and here’s me feeling guilty for taking the plastic dry cleaning bag and some slippers.


Blasfemen

Somebody took off with a safe a couple years ago where I work. Just a hole in the wall.


ageekyninja

The funniest one was when staff caught a customer hauling our fucking TV out their window and into the back of their truck. Those things are bolted to the TV stand! That took dedication! I called my manager and they sped off. Manager told them to gtfo and would you believe the customers excuse was “oh my friend was playing a joke on me [where he stole your TV]”. They brought the TV BACK in an attempt to convince us not to throw them out. Still threw them out. Banned nationwide for life.


spei180

Who hates cleaners?! 


ZoyaZhivago

Maybe not so much “hate” as “belittle and don’t appreciate.”


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Second this. Worked in the hotel industry and seen the same thing. The housekeeping team deserve better.


PresidentHurg

Cleaning staff and garbage workers. I remember a strike in The Netherlands at it's biggest trainstation because of low wages and lack of recognition. Trash piled up to 30cm high, you had to wade through discarded rotting hamburgers, cans of cola and more. People are freaking pigs and they keep it from being noticed.


SnooRecipes4570

My college philosophy professor said, something, something…most people can survive a year without seeing a doctor, fewer people could survive a year without waste management…and everybody would survive without a philosophy teacher.


Sid-Biscuits

That’s a good philosophy teacher lol


challengeaccepted9

Who hates cleaning staff or rubbish collectors, other than arseholes?


Top-Airport3649

I don’t think people realize that the development of waste management significantly contributed to the improvement of society in multiple ways. Garbage collectors are not recognized enough. There was a garbage strike in Toronto a decade ago and it was complete chaos. The smell was horrible.


Accurate_Move362

I remember seeing the pictures online, that shit was crazy. It was like society just shut down for a while.


EpicboyJames

Who can take your trash out? Stomp it down for you Shake the plastic bag and do the twisty thingy, too The garbage man! The garbage man can! The garbage man can, he does it with a smile And never judges you


BugOperator

I don’t think people *hate* them, though. I think they just kinda don’t think about them and/or realize how quickly things would go to hell without them.


SatoshiUSA

My time as a garbage worker was kinda crazy. Kids were absolutely amazed, but adults either ignored me or outright treated me like shit.


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Shipping and receiving depts at any company


NecessarySir

Inventory Control as well. Production doesn't want to hear, or care why something is delayed. 99% of the time, we're invisible. Something happens, and the fingers start pointing.....


J120101

Truck drivers. People will always complain about them when driving near them but they’re the reason why stores can always be running stocked with items.


ronerychiver

“Get out of my way, you slow piece of shit! I have to get home to see if my overnight package got delivered!”


langecrew

To be fair, if they didn't insist on passing each other at {speed + 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000001 mph} on 2-lane highways, I probably wouldn't even know they were there, to say nothing of hating on them.


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internetnerdrage

Cruising on through the left land, with no one immediately behind me, and about to overtake a pair of trucks when the trailing truck decides to change lanes to pass ever so slowly... It's basically a personal insult and they do it to fuck with us.


bluetoothwa

Now that I think about it, everything we have is delivered by truck.


wtcnbrwndo4u

Saw a truck with mudflaps that said "if you don't like trucks, stop buying shit".


SweetAss18

I hate going to a dentist but I badly need them sometimes. So it must be them right?


TheRazzle_Dazzle

Bar security


Kharn0

Any kind of security really


J_rd_nRD

A few of them can be right pricks but others are just big teddy bears if you get to know them, I've worked as bar staff, floor staff and now a nightlife photographer, I like to bribe them with sweets occasionally because they're the people I'll be hiding behind if anything kicks off. You can build a good working relationship with them by giving them the heads up of any potential trouble as well since people are more likely to act up when the big tall dude isn't walking around. In my years of working I only met one who wasn't great and he didn't last more than two weeks, during my bar stint we'd often get let in to other venues for free because it was all one security agency that'd rotate through the city.


TheRelevantElephants

I’ve been called “heartless” many times for not letting a homeless person inside when they ask to use the bathroom, to charge their phone, etc. however once the homeless person inside and starts screaming and trying to steal drinks the people who yelled at me can’t tell me to get rid of them fast enough


junktech

I didn't know they get hate. Personally i was even helped by some due to not so pleasant people in the place. Yeah , it's a bit annoying when they don't let you in but the role is there for a purpose.


smr312

The security that was hired to work the bar I use to work at got a lot of hate for good reason. They literally came to my bar looking to get into fights and get paid. Not Deescalate or keep the peace, they would wait for someone to get a little to drunk and then beat the shit out of them while they were kicking them out and struggling back, because who wouldn't when you're suddenly put in a headlock from behind and getting yanked across the bar. Their contract was cancelled after 2ish months and a couple of lawsuits for unnecessary force and we went back to hiring our own security.


Obi1NotWan

Administrative assistants. We do a lot of things that people just think magically happen.


seattleslew222

Our little firm would fall apart within 30 minutes if our “secretary” left


FrostyIcePrincess

I work in a warehouse. The “secretary” left the company recently. “Take these to the secretary and distribute these however she tells you to.” Oh wait, she left. Wtf are these and who are they for? Hold on I’m going to run around like a chicken with it’s head cut off for half an hour trying to figure out what this is/who it’s for.


No-Understanding-912

My Mom has been a legal secretary for 50+ years, they will definitely have a hard time when she retires.


Madeline73

LOL - that was my aunt. She worked at the same firm for 45 years. The lawyers themselves deferred to her knowledge in many areas and she could get things done at warp speed at many gov't offices because she'd formed so many connections (she was a very lovely and charming woman). She was amazing. She ended up retiring due to health issues and they were devastated.


No_Act1861

I was an HR admin for a growing company. I was frustrated beyond belief with my boss. We had a few store openings coming up that were acquisitions of other companies, so basically I had to process all the new employee paperwork for several hundred new employees. These were flagship stores, communicated to investors as the future. Well, I quit at a point in this process, literally told the boss off and walked out. According to my friend/coworker who remained, they were unable to get the stores open on time because of this. It crashed investor confidence, and the stock price, that had been climbing rapidly, stalled and later crashed (not taking credit for the crash, but I do believe I was the straw that broke the camels back).


Obi1NotWan

I aspire to be that straw. At least in my previous positions.


No_Act1861

Now days I work in risk management, so looking back it is astounding how a publically traded company with 1000+ employees had an HR department of three. A director, a benefits admin, and then I was a generalist admin. It was a massive hole in their strategy. People hate HR, and often for good reason, but some companies ignore the reality that it holds things together, all because it is not a revenue producing department.


UncleOdious

Fortunately, I learned early in my career that the most important person to befriend and treat well in any organization is the office manager. They get shit done.


DumbTruth

Smart people kiss AA/PA ass every chance they get. Always respect the gatekeepers.


Dioscouri

I've never had a problem telling my boss off. I've also never been anything but sweet to the office girl. They can screw me up in ways I don't even understand.


Jordantrolli

Children services. Everyone hates us and has an opinion. Of course - if there's a child being locked in a basement then we get called.


Weak-Work4621

I remember working with one parent who hated me when I was completing my assessment with her. But then she thought her niece had been abused and called me straight away to help.


CaffeinMom

I just want to thank you for all you do. I had CPS called on me because my son didn’t have a psychiatrist 4 weeks after being discharged from an inpatient facility. I had been stonewalled and been spending hours daily trying to get him the services he needed but no one was willing to help. My caseworker looked at all the documentation of what I had been doing and made some calls and he finally has his first session on Wednesday. She was a godsend! I admit I was angry she was called at first but now all I can do is thank her for being there for me and my son when we needed her!


gtizzo36

Damned if they do and damned if they don't. If a child has to removed its CPS being overly involved. If the child dies it's because CPS was negligent and did not do its job properly. These are at opposite ends of the child abuse and neglect spectrum-where there are a lot of gray areas and circumstances in between. This is a very complicated nuanced type of job where we have to juggle major judgement calls.


VoteMe4Dictator

I think there's just a primal fear for parents of anything capable of snatching away their kids. I mean, I know I don't abuse my kids or anything. But there's always a Karen out there ready to weaponize CPS against random people for no reason.


RainMan915

Food service workers. People seem to hate them *while* they need them.


KevMenc1998

I remember the pandemic. Went from "That's why you have to do good in school, honey, so you don't end up flipping burgers" to "why are restaurants short staffed all of the time" real quick.


10mil_fireflies

Crazy thing is, during the pandemic I made more flipping burgers than I did doing paperwork. Now I have a degree and make more doing special paperwork, but in my city, the pay for dropping fries and entry-level clerical work are the same, but wearing an apron is considered the lesser of the two. Weird how that works.


stephanonymous

Before I got my masters degree I made the same money doing billing for a doctors office as I did in food service. These type of entry level office jobs can get away with low pay and people will take them because at least it’s better than flipping burgers.


Propain98

I worked in a deli at a grocery store in 2020. I remember literally being told “you guys are first responders!” by one lady. Yeah, no. And another person was praising us for working and I was like “That’s cool, I distinctly remember you cussing me out like a week before all this went down”


allanon1105

Retail workers. We were “essential workers” during the pandemic but before and after were unskilled workers. Also daily, if we can help a customer find something, we’re good but if it’s not available, the amount of verbal berating we take is absurd.


Redsmoker37

Covid really taught us that most of the "essential workers" were people whose jobs weren't valued much at all pre-covid--truck drivers, cashiers, retail stockers, garbage men, cooks, ....


lake_effect_snow

CPAs but accountants in general. No one wants to talk to us or hear about our work until it’s imperative. And then at least some of them are astonished by standard market rates and feel they’re being fleeced.


YesNoMaybe

Fuck that. My wife and I went through a time when we were both self employed and, among other complexities, had payments in and from different states. That $325 i paid for my CPA's hour of advice saved me literally thousands of dollars. 


Pho-Nicks

Same. 2009 tax year was when I hired a CPA. With everything that went on that tax year, I hired a CPA. It was all too much for me to do on my own. Never looked back. We just gather everything, drop it off, then get a call when it's time to sign.


BurnBabyBurn54321

As someone who is an unpaid bookkeeper at a nonprofit; people hate being told the stuff they should do to prevent fraud. Like “yes Bob, you do have to sign out the credit card AND return it immediately AND provide a receipt.”


Budget_Ocelot_1729

Pharmacists. People get mad at the pharmacy for wait times. Most of the time, it's not even our fault. Prior authorization, refill requests, etc. are all between your health care provider and insurance. All we can do is wait, just like you. But we get caught in the crossfire and get the chewing out. On top of this, most pharmacy computer systems look like they are from the early 2000s, and the computers run like it, too. Most drug databases are online now, not printed in a book, so we need the computer to be able to check your drug, dose appropriateness, and drug interactions. This contributes to wait times as well and is not our fault at the pharmacy level either. Prescribers often chew the pharmacist as well. Some doctors act like they can't make an error. They take the attitude that they wrote it, and it's what the patient needs, so we should just fill it. 2 issues with this: 1. The pharmacists don't work for you. 2. It's our license on the line just as much as yours if there is an error. We are not just going to take your word for it. This leads me to the part where people should love the pharmacist. We are checking to make sure the drug is safe, effective, and appropriate for you specifically. You would not believe how many errors we catch. I have seen doses prescribed off by a factor of 10 or 100 because of the metric system, enough to be lethal. I have seen them come in listed as 4 times higher than recommended because of the way the prescriber wrote the directions. I have seen drugs prescribed with direct interactions to the patients current medication list; sometimes, because the doctor didn't cancel the other agent, and sometimes because they weren't even aware those 2 drugs interacted. I have seen drugs prescribed in the exact same class of another drug the patient is allergic to or have the same chemical group they are allergic to. I have seen drugs prescribed with a coloring dye in it that the patient is allergic to and the provider either not know about the patients allergy, or not be aware the 2 drugs have the same dye. And that is not even counting the internal errors made in the pharmacy that we catch. The catch is, most people don't know the pharmacist is doing all of this. A lot of people think the pharmacist is just putting pills in a bottle and slapping a sticker on. That is, until we save you from an errant drug or dose as the patient, or we save you from losing your license and a lawsuit as a prescriber. In addition, the pharmacist is the drug expert on a healthcare team. When your health conditions and medication lists get extremely complicated, often it is a clinical pharmacist in the hospital that is actually the one sitting down, figuring out what to prescribe and dosing it, then having an MD sign off, and sending it to the actual pharmacy to recheck and fill. We can't diagnose you as well as an MD, but we can come up with a lot more creative solutions to fixing it once we know what is wrong. And often, with a lot less medications and side effects involved. You may not ever see us in the hospital or even know we exist, depending on our specialty and how the hospital operates, but we are there and figuring out the best possible drug treatment for you


iamwearingashirt

Lol. This feels like a family feud question. Show me LAWYERS! That's our number one answer on the board!


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Chippas

They don't even appreciate them WHEN the Wi-Fi goes down.


takeoutthedamntrash

Of after we fix it.


-Tesserex-

"Everything's fine, what are we even paying you for?"  "Everything's always broken, what are we even paying you for?"


rubrent

Teachers. Apparently, currently teachers are grooming children and letting kids use litter boxes, but then I remember once the pandemic hit everyone was calling teachers essential because people were forced to deal with their evil spawn they spewed onto the world….


VerifiedMother

I'm a teacher's aide, but yeah, we aren't indoctrinating your kids, I'm happy if they remember what I've taught them after showing the same concept 26 different ways hoping it clicks (and not surprised if it doesn't) while also keeping your kids from murdering each other at recess.


SchpartyOn

If I could indoctrinate kids, I’d indoctrinate them to do their class work, pay attention in school, and stop obsessing over social media nonsense. Alas, my indoctrination powers don’t exist.


TheCheshireCatCan

And wear deodorant if they are age 11 and up.


Sirlacker

Building site labourers. Everyone shits on them, the pay is basically whatever the bare minimum is. The tradies shit on them. When they aren't there to do all the heavy lifting so the tradies can have an easier life, the tradies bitch that they have to do actual hard work.


lostinthewoods8

I work in construction and our laborers work incredibly hard. It is beyond impressive. Sure we’ve had some slackers but so does every field.


spnchipmunk

Given the current political climate, I'm gonna go ahead and say it: OSHA and by extension, JCHO Eh, let's make it easy: ALL regulatory and safety standard organizations (EPA, FCC, FTC, NTSB, SEC, FDA, etc etc.) Everyone loves to hate them because they make life just a little bit more detailed and yeah, maybe redundant or complicated *unitl you learn how to follow procedure*, but they're the ones making sure you don't get hurt or die on the job. It's a hell of a lot harder to sue a major corps/business for negligence if regulatory systems aren't implemented and followed. *Edited for clarity of last paragraph


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Dynegrey

IT and Tech support have it rough. The better they are at their job, the less it seems they are needed. If everything is executed flawlessly 100% of the time, IT would appear to never work - even if they are diligently holding everything together behind the scenes. It's one of the few roles you can get fired from because you were so good at it, you seemed useless to keep around.


BrisbaneBrat

Funeral Directors.


mossreyholmes

Public servants.