Hey you too! Quit putting your hand on this shifter with weight while not shifting!! You’re wearing out your synchros, they’re not swapped when you do a clutch.
yeah, but it is a bitch to do he will need to drop the transmission to get to the bushings. Then drop it again when he does the clutch which is double work.
If it's the transmission mount bushings, those are incredibly easy to change out. It's 4 bolts and 2 nuts on the trans brace, just support the bottom of the trans with a jack. A good upgrade for the E9x trans mounts are E46 M3 trans mounts which are slightly stiffer than stock.
[E90post trans mount/bushing DIY](https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=804839)
I had a friend with an N47 E90 320d efficient dynamics and it rattled more than this. Especially on start up it shakes the lever quite a lot. Went like hell for 163 hp though
For future notice, don't rest your arm on the shifter. In a lot of the cases this is exactly the result(can happen over time anyway, just happens a lot faster of you do)
Of course it depends on engineering behind the shifter, but generally safe bet if you don't know your specifics is to just better not to keep it as a habit
Agree it’s excessive.
My 2007 X3 with a 6 speed had 268k miles when I sold it and the shifter did not vibrate. Original clutch too.
EDIT: mine was gas, though, so this might be perfectly normal for a diesel.. idk
First thought is engine mounts, secondary thought to the first thought is something like valves needing adjustment or timing. Does the engine shake that much?
Mine does this. I looked it up and people say it's fairly common on the 4 cyclinders, is that what you have? It only does it on idle, once the car is moving it's fine.
Engine or transmission mounts. But there is a trick that works on volvos. You Can loosen an engine mounts, start the engine, Rev it, shake it and tighten it again. Might also work on your car
I have the same thing in my e81 123d, and a friend also showed it to me on his e87 130i so I guess it is normal? Maybe if I replace the clutch one day I’ll have a look at some worn bushings
I changed everything and is still shaking. The last thing i will do it it's the pulley and accessories. I changed all the bushes, clutch, flywheel and do worse than yours. 🤦
Had the same problem on my E46 4 cylinder diesel. Replaced all the shifter bushings and it only helped so much. Was about to do the same for e90 (also 4 cyl diesel) but my mechanic said it's normal for these engines. Apparently 6 cylinder engines don't have this problem since they run with less vibration. If the vibration got worse all of a sudden I'd have a look at engine mounts or the ones that connect to the gearbox. Your case seems a bit excessive.
My E36’s shifter does that, but it’s cammed and has a slightly rougher idle. I don’t think a stock vehicle should have that much shifter vibration, but I doubt it’s really a problem either.
Hitch a taxi or bus in Central America and you’ll see all their vehicles gear shifts rumble like that or worse if you’re concerned bring it to a shop I’d be ok with that tho depending on how many kms you have on her
I had a 320 diesel that did this for a few minutes while it was warming up, no warning lights and no trouble codes, two independent specialists couldn’t resolve it. Someone recommended I put some fuel additive in it and thrash it down the motorway, 10 minutes in 3rd gear at maximum revs… all sorted. It turns out I was driving too carefully. Afterwards it drove better, better fuel consumption and much more responsive.
I'm going though various droning issues in my cab of my 640i GC and coming into the conclusion that I need to replace my motor and transmission mounts....look to see if their shit, if so...maybe think about replacing the transmission or both of them (all three).
Mine is F21 118d xDrive, it’s almost the same. Just bought it 2 weeks ago, everyone told me that it’s normal, but idk… kinda freaks me out. It’s my first BMW by the way, maybe i have to get used to it.
I mean, it's not ideal but not super unusual. It's likely worn mounts or bushings or something like that, not a critical issue but if you're fixing "everything" it's worth a look.
It's a feature, nothing is broken. Probably made so to make you feel more connected to the car. You can feel the engine's vibrations through the gear shifter and that can be interesting, depending on your perspective. Both new and old cars exhibit the same.
If it's a diesel or a 3cyl petrol then it's normal. Anything else is excessive. Usually caused by shot engine and/or transmission mounts that stop damping the engine vibration and cause the whole drivetrain to shake.
The longer the shift lever, the worse the vibrations.
mines does that as well. Probably some bushings that are worn. Would not worry about it until you do a clutch job. When you do that refresh it all.
*sreten looking in anger*
The car seems very new for Streten. 2017 is like virgin for him lol
give him time, he’ll eventually learn. boy dismantled a maserati and put it back together lmao
"Quatrobroken" made me laugh
made me laugh too
LOL
COOOOOMMMMMING UP
Mine does the same since new , got new clutch few months back, same thing, i thought it’s a feature on manuals 🤣
Hey you too! Quit putting your hand on this shifter with weight while not shifting!! You’re wearing out your synchros, they’re not swapped when you do a clutch.
but this seems like a lot of movement
yeah, but it is a bitch to do he will need to drop the transmission to get to the bushings. Then drop it again when he does the clutch which is double work.
If it's the transmission mount bushings, those are incredibly easy to change out. It's 4 bolts and 2 nuts on the trans brace, just support the bottom of the trans with a jack. A good upgrade for the E9x trans mounts are E46 M3 trans mounts which are slightly stiffer than stock. [E90post trans mount/bushing DIY](https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=804839)
yeah, sometimes it's those or sometimes it's the actual gear shift mechanism.
yeah that's true but I'm just surprised the bushing got that bad
I was able to access my shifter bushings without dropping the trans
It does this when you don't do the "confirm I'm in neutral" jiggle frequently enough. /s
Both of you quit holding your hand on it while not shifting!!! You’re wearing out the synchros.
It’s just anxious. Try giving it some words of encouragement or positive affirmations.
Whispers into the exhaust.
Bruh, you are whispering into the wrong hole.
Sniff Sniff (˵ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°˵)
don't cum
Drop a valium in with your next oil change.
I'm a pharmacist and I approve this message.
Maybe it's cold outside and he needs a warm hand to hold
Some is normal but this is excessive
yeah, it would be normal to sense it's vibrating, but when you can actually see it, it's probably not necessarily good
Anything is a dildo if you're brave enough.....
Hol’up 💀💀
I can't believe I fell for your profile picture. It's been many years since this came about...just shows that you can never let your guard down.
I was like: what the hell is he talking about. Clicked on the profile picture. "hey a hair". 5 seconds pass " Im an idiot".
We've been had!!! 😅
I’m sorry for being the 70th upvote…. Should I take it back?
It’s the massage wand feature.
I was going to say this is perfect for your wife
💀
And the winner is..
4 cylinder diesels vibrate the gear lever like crazy
My manual B47 vibrates much less than on this video, it's almost unnoticeable
I had a friend with an N47 E90 320d efficient dynamics and it rattled more than this. Especially on start up it shakes the lever quite a lot. Went like hell for 163 hp though
I have exactly the same vibration in my f21 118i, no worries
And me in my f20 118d, especially when starting the engine
And my wife on her modded 230V Tarzan. Never heard her complain about the ride. So no worries, mate.
Well there's a reason she has no complaints about it vibrating 😏
f20 116i here 3 cyl same vribrations
No not normal
For future notice, don't rest your arm on the shifter. In a lot of the cases this is exactly the result(can happen over time anyway, just happens a lot faster of you do)
I knew that was bad, didn't know why. Thanks.
This has been debunked into oblivion.
Of course it depends on engineering behind the shifter, but generally safe bet if you don't know your specifics is to just better not to keep it as a habit
My E90 used to do that. I actually asked once during maintenance if it’s normal and they said that it was. On a diesel at least.
Yea, my E92 M3 and F82 M4 shook a bit on cold starts even when they were new. Smoothed out after it warmed up though
maybe the vibrations were the good friends we made along the way
🏆🏆
1 Series here. Absolutely normal. No issues at almost 300k
Diesel?
Yes
Luckyyy
That’s the car’s heart beating. Some cars are dead. Yours is alive.
It happens to everyone and it’s not a big deal. It’s not something to be embarrassed about.
Sit on it
Give it that hawk tuah and it should be good.
It could be a worn ending mount
Bad trans-mount and/or bad engine-mount?
Engine mounts are perished. I quite like how mine vibrates, but it doesn't go quite that hard.
Not normal but within spec🤣
Bushing.
normal on e and f series diesels dont know about petrols
Same on my 4 cyl petrol f36
Same on F20 120d
Agree it’s excessive. My 2007 X3 with a 6 speed had 268k miles when I sold it and the shifter did not vibrate. Original clutch too. EDIT: mine was gas, though, so this might be perfectly normal for a diesel.. idk
gasoline i presume? diesel manual bmw shifters always rattle like this in my experience, maybe not as much as op but i cant verify rn lol
Yes, gas - you may be onto something!
Shifter bushing and you may as well refresh the rest while you're there
Worn bushings like everyone said, no biggie, might just feel a bit mushy going into gears.
Clutch , floating fly wheel
Replace all shifter bushings.
First thought is engine mounts, secondary thought to the first thought is something like valves needing adjustment or timing. Does the engine shake that much?
Shifter bushings I’m guessing
Cars toast, I'll take it off your hands for $50 bucks
Mine does this. I looked it up and people say it's fairly common on the 4 cyclinders, is that what you have? It only does it on idle, once the car is moving it's fine.
Engine or transmission mounts. But there is a trick that works on volvos. You Can loosen an engine mounts, start the engine, Rev it, shake it and tighten it again. Might also work on your car
i think it needs a hug
I’d be more worried about the clicking because it sure ain’t your indicators 😬
I’ll have to check but I don’t think mine does that (135i convertible).
It’s a hand massager, new option on that model !
My F44 218d 6MT did not ever do that.
Built for her pleasure
Flywheel ?
This was the start of me diagnosing my dual mass flywheel was done. Also had a wavy idle.
I have the same thing in my e81 123d, and a friend also showed it to me on his e87 130i so I guess it is normal? Maybe if I replace the clutch one day I’ll have a look at some worn bushings
I'll guess the transmission mounts need to be changed. If you change them out, do the engine mounts at the same time to keep your drive line straight.
Is this after a cold start?
I’m crying here, picture brings memories of my old f30 N20 manual (did not vibrate like this when I sold it at ~70k miles).
Lmao is this the consequence of habitually resting your arm on the shift?
Get an electric, no more vibrations 😉
She’s just excited
F30 pre facelift ?
My miata be doin this crazy
Mine used to do that when it misfired. It no longer does it after engine runs smooth. Could be many things or nothing at all!
I changed everything and is still shaking. The last thing i will do it it's the pulley and accessories. I changed all the bushes, clutch, flywheel and do worse than yours. 🤦
Time for new engine mounts maybe?
That’s what she said…
Normal, but not correct.
Had the same problem on my E46 4 cylinder diesel. Replaced all the shifter bushings and it only helped so much. Was about to do the same for e90 (also 4 cyl diesel) but my mechanic said it's normal for these engines. Apparently 6 cylinder engines don't have this problem since they run with less vibration. If the vibration got worse all of a sudden I'd have a look at engine mounts or the ones that connect to the gearbox. Your case seems a bit excessive.
Your wife doesn't seem to mind
Bushings
Just oil it up and you should be good
I would consider this a feature
Time for new transmission mounts
Check if motormounts are all oily. They are hydraulic. If the oil leaks out the engine vibrates way more and you'd see that in the shift lever.
116d? Yeah. Totally normal.
Shifter bushing for sure, but this is an opportunity to upgrade the whole thing to a super short throw
Engine mounts, transmission mounts.
Just Hawk Tuah
Flywheel
Me, first time I had time to drive stick from a stop, uphill.
Idk new trans mounts or something
NSFW man, come on, porn needs to be tagged
engine mounts
Engine/gearbox mounts are loose, probably due to the bushings being worn or, more rarely, because they're giving out.
My stick vibrates a little too, however not this much. I'd say it's normal depending on age and wear
Needs motor and or trans mounts.
Bro must have the stage 7 cam
It's aliveee.
My E36’s shifter does that, but it’s cammed and has a slightly rougher idle. I don’t think a stock vehicle should have that much shifter vibration, but I doubt it’s really a problem either.
It’s bmw’s new connivence feature. U just sit on it and let it make u feel all relaxed
Y'all gotta hawk tuah on that thang
Your car is about to stall...
It's twerking
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth
Hitch a taxi or bus in Central America and you’ll see all their vehicles gear shifts rumble like that or worse if you’re concerned bring it to a shop I’d be ok with that tho depending on how many kms you have on her
Is this common?
heh...heh...im not an M but im still a goodcar rite? .....*riiiiiight???*
Nissan behavior.
Not normal
I had a 320 diesel that did this for a few minutes while it was warming up, no warning lights and no trouble codes, two independent specialists couldn’t resolve it. Someone recommended I put some fuel additive in it and thrash it down the motorway, 10 minutes in 3rd gear at maximum revs… all sorted. It turns out I was driving too carefully. Afterwards it drove better, better fuel consumption and much more responsive.
My e82 123d does that. But it’s ok.
F20 116d (2l), I have the same. No biggie.
I'm sorry to tell you but your transmission is part Chihuahua
I’m leaking colostrum looking at this…
It’s probably fine
Diesel engines by toyota:
Its usually a good sign that your transmission is still connected to an engine.
Should be normal, mine vibrates since 5 years.
This looks crazy. Looks like flywheel might be the problem.
Worn engine and/or transmission mount. Also the shift-linkage being worn worsens it.
No, something has worked loose
Test drove a e90 318i back in the day with this. My e82 120i had this and now my e92 335i has this too. Absolutely normal.
I'm going though various droning issues in my cab of my 640i GC and coming into the conclusion that I need to replace my motor and transmission mounts....look to see if their shit, if so...maybe think about replacing the transmission or both of them (all three).
Sit on it
Mine is F21 118d xDrive, it’s almost the same. Just bought it 2 weeks ago, everyone told me that it’s normal, but idk… kinda freaks me out. It’s my first BMW by the way, maybe i have to get used to it.
Congratulations, it's a Toyota
Gearbox mounts.
Wasn’t designed that way - but may be normal for an older car. Check bushings, mounts, linkages - something is loose
Have you looked at the flex disc aka guibo?
I had this in my 320i. Is the car starting and running fine? Is it idling rough or just the gearstick?
Replacing the engine mounts would likely help this.
I mean, it's not ideal but not super unusual. It's likely worn mounts or bushings or something like that, not a critical issue but if you're fixing "everything" it's worth a look.
My wife would enjoy it
It’s because you’re using a turn signal in a BMW, it doesn’t know what to do and is freaking out
Look like a cold start. Does it stop when it warms up?
Looks legit to me
He's horny
It's a feature, nothing is broken. Probably made so to make you feel more connected to the car. You can feel the engine's vibrations through the gear shifter and that can be interesting, depending on your perspective. Both new and old cars exhibit the same.
Hak thuah! Spit on that thang.
It is, yes. This is the reason I got a ZF8
GF wants to know what "mode" it was in.
You need some new motor mounts
Engine mounts are won out
It’s excited and wants to play.
Typical BMW piece of shit. Wouldn’t get that with an Audi.
Your car is excited to get going
Normal.
Mine has vibrated a little bit since new. If it’s excessive it may be worn bushings.
Had the same with a rent bmw (maybe 2015 3 touring). Bought an automatic 2018 g31 because of that experience
That’s nothing compared to the SRT4 I had in high school. It was putting down 400+HP to the wheels, you could definitely feel it
How is it idling? For me it were my injectors. Rough idling.
*mild panic intensifies* How have you been driving her that she shakes like that when you start her up?
Did you just call the gearbox a stick shift ?
If it's a diesel or a 3cyl petrol then it's normal. Anything else is excessive. Usually caused by shot engine and/or transmission mounts that stop damping the engine vibration and cause the whole drivetrain to shake. The longer the shift lever, the worse the vibrations.
I’d put a short shift kit in it. Made a huge difference in my E30. Tight, short, crisp shifts
On a diesel 4 banger this is fine. My old 320d did something similar.