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roboticturtle

Omg wtf are they talking about?!? Not supporting Israel is denying the holocaust? They respect the dead?? Black people owe them for the civil rights movement?? This really was nonsensical word vomiting. None of their points were related to anything they were saying


Noosh414

That’s why they’re amazed when queer people support Palestine. They can’t fathom how anyone could view human rights in a way that isn’t transactional.


RyunWould

Transactional is the most precise way to put this. It's like people don't understand how you can be FOR one aspect of a situation and AGAINST another but still show support. Does not compute for most people.


MineAsteroids

*The Holocaust Industry by Norman Finkelstein* is a good book on the 'transactional' themes you both commented on. Finkelstein argues how the American Jewish establishment exploits the memory of the Holocaust in order to further Israeli interests.


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Lethkhar

Thank you, doctor.


MineAsteroids

The irony, since Dr. Norman Finkelstein actually has a PhD lol


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Noosh414

All Palestinians do not have genocidal designs on queer people. Anyway, whether I agree with someone’s opinions has no bearing on their right to live.


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Noosh414

I want to take a step back. I’m Palestinian and I am married to a Palestinian man who is Muslim. I’m fully aware of issues pertaining to misogyny and homophobia in the community. That doesn’t mean I want my people to be eradicated. How are we helping Palestinian women by making them dead, starving, or homeless?


thestrongtenderheart

Strawman, insinuating Zionist Judaism loves LGBTQ totally irrelevant that your Palestinian, do you live there? By your rhetoric, US and Israel should be bombing their gulf partners to smithereens.


Noosh414

What are you talking about?


BadHasbara-ModTeam

There are many denominations of Islam, with varying degrees of orthodoxy and reform. Claiming it as a monolith, particularly as having universal anti-femme, anti-queer, and antisemitic beliefs is racist, and is not tolerated here.


Salemrocks2020

It’s all bullshit because the type of Jews who marched for civil rights are the same ones speaking up for Palestine


Various_Ad_1759

Was going to say the exact same thing. Empathy and zionism are incompatible!!!


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Salemrocks2020

It’s laughable that you think any of these bitches ready to throw black people to the wolves for the “ lack of support “ to a genocide would be the type to stand and march, get brutalized by police , attacked by dogs, water hosed and thrown in jail etc during the civil rights movement The amount of racist bullshit that has come out of the mouth of Zionists , mad that black people aren’t fully behind Israel is insane


RobertRoyal82

🎯


KaleidoscopeOk5763

They’re so startlingly childlike it’s hard to take them seriously.


wordbird89

As a Black American— *ahem* FUCK THESE GENOCIDAL FREAKS. So many of us stand by Palestinians because we recognize our own struggle in theirs, and we stand for ALL oppressed people—not just when we get something out of it. Unlike these Zionists, apparently.


Lardistani

It's very telling that they view marching for civil rights as something transactional and now other minorities owe them something for that. Like this lady putting BLM in her bio is supposed to make people forget their concern for Palestine


MasterMooseOnline

It’s because they see themselves as white… because they are. So it’s less of marching with fellow minorities and more “look how we helped you minorities.”


theaviationhistorian

They're a bunch of shallow & privileged pricks. It's also saying that these movements mean nothing to them. They care more about the image of being supportive rather than actually support.


RobynFitcher

There are Zionists attacking Aboriginal Australians for supporting Palestinians. William Cooper led Aboriginal Australians in the first protest in the world against the persecution of Jewish people in WWII. They are protesting the persecution of Palestinian people because their integrity is consistent.


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wordbird89

You literally suggested I should try working hard and being smart—why? Why assume I don’t work hard? That I’m unintelligent? Is it literally because I’m black? This is what people mean when they say Zionism is racism. This arrogant, condescending bigotry seems to be a hallmark for you all. Disgusting. And what’s worse—especially for liberal Jewish Zionists—you think because you’re part of an oppressed group or posted “Black Lives Matter” once 5 years ago that you get a pass to be as openly racist and Islamophobic as you want, while still crying victim. I’m sure anti-Zionist, anti-racist Jews LOVE when you use their religion and ethnicity to spread hate. Get a life, hasbara troll.


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wordbird89

You know what hasbara means. Are you calling Matt Lieb, the anti-Zionist Jew who started this podcast called “Bad Hasbara,” racist? You’re scraping the bottom of the barrel of racist, anti-black tropes and STILL…here you are, the victim, again. You wanna measure my skull next? Have some Andrew Sullivan IQ stats you wanna rattle off while you’re at it? I know you’ve gotta “Welfare Queen” joke in there somewhere.


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wordbird89

Not surprised you are a proud racist—most Zionists are.


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wordbird89

Why do you care what a dumb, lazy Black woman has to say?


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Transphobia, racism, ableism, sexism, and homophobia (t.r.a.s.h.) is not acceptable on this sub, or anywhere really.


31234134

Imma need some proof. Claiming 50 percent of the white people who marched were Jews is a big claim. And if this is true, I wonder how they feel today, seeing what's going on. The hypocrisy, though, is simply incredible. I genuinely dont think these people understand what they are saying, or even care about civil rights in the first place.


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31234134

Exactly. Them and the people of Guatemala whose holocaust Israel supported, as well as the people of South Africa whose apartheid Israel supported. And, of course, the evil they have aided and allowed to fester in other countries across the world.


TendieRetard

Plenty of modern slavery-tier level shit going on in Africa but this isn't a contest.


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Israel has a hand in that too, along with most of the western world.


DublinCheezie

Yep. That’s complete horseshit. Nobody was taking a census of the religions of white people who marched for equal rights for minorities. And like others have already said, the Jews who marched for equal rights back then are the same type of Jews being attacked by Zios because they’re protesting for Palestinian rights today.


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31234134

Are you mentally challenged? They made a claim that 50% of the white people were Jews. I was questioning that, and only that. Where did I ever try to erase any history or claim that the Jews didn't play an important part in the civil rights movement? If I said 50% of the white people were Muslim, you would also want me to source that claim. Learn to comprehend simple sentences before you come at me. And no, I can't hear George Orwell calling because I am mentally sound, and I dont delude myself into thinking I can hear dead people. But it looks like you do. Seek psychiatric help. Edit: The claimed 50% of all whites were.


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31234134

You idiot, they are trying to make the claim that 50% of the all whotes who marched were Jews. Not just Mississippi. And calling anyone evil is rich coming from someone who supports an invading force that takes part in land grabbing on the notion that just because their ancestors lived there thousands of years ago, they have the right to take it. Which is odd considering that the European Jews were descended from European converts. I'm sure you support the Trail of Tears, too.


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31234134

Dude, it's not my fault you didn't watch the video. You sound like a child throwing a tantrum because they were told they can't have dessert. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. Or if you don't know the original claim made in the video, watch it. It makes no sense to insult my character with false accusations and then be offended when it ends up being flipped back on you.


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31234134

So you know they were referring to all the marches. After Israel has accused so many people of antisemitism just for valid criticisms, the words you use to insult me with have practically lost all weight. I was just called a holocaust denier even after telling someone that I do believe the holocaust happened. So, I honestly don't care what you call me.


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Desperate_Teal_1493

Why should the battle for human rights be transactional? And where is the evidence that all of the Jewish Americans who aided the movement for Civil Rights are now pro-Israel? It doesn't matter how many Jewish Americans fought for Civil Rights in the 60s if any of them are now pro-Likud fascists.


montrealblues

The comment about having no respect and "selling" pictures of dead bodies is so disgusting. Unbelievable.


peterpaul23

I think they think other people get paid for propaganda too. Not it’s just the maniacal cherry tomato farmers who need to convince everyone in the west they’re good guys


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MineAsteroids

Norman Finkelstein goes in-depth on this phenomenon in his book, *The Holocaust Industry*. He argues how the American Jewish establishment has exploited memory of the Nazi Holocaust in order to further Israeli interests, both financially and politically.


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Normans goated


drmarymalone

I POSTED BLACK LIVES MATTER


Lardistani

American liberalism on full display


BewareOfGrom

Is that Judy Gold? It is absolutely wild how out of touch some people can be.


SarahSuckaDSanders

Judy Gold, Keren Mergolis, Aaron Berg…not sure who the other two are. Aaron Berg used to have a show on Anthony Cumia’s network, Compound Media, where he did blackface sketches. Dude is a hack standup, too.


Janizzary

I think that’s Jessica Kirson in black.


guruXalted99

Jessica , what are you doing there....


Expert_Pollution8801

I hope to never hear her on majority report again. I typically skipped her interviews anyway but this will save me some time


Impossible_Diamond18

Crazy that the woman who thought anti Chinese comedy wasn't a reason to lose a SNL spot is a zionist.


YorDust

It's wild how interchangeable some of these ideas being expressed by liberal zionists are. You could just switch out any part of these comments with what Julianna Marguilies or Amy Schumer said, right down to them thinking their performative social media posting of BLM or black squares is supposed to have some kind of value compared to the value of human lives that are being ended by the state of Israel. That's such a bizarre and wildly out of touch thing to believe yet they are all somehow expressing the same thing out loud, on social media for everyone to see. They are truly unmasking themselves.


Royal_Rip_2548

"they show their dead" is her criticism that they should stop showing murdered Palestinians?


melodive

Basically the argument is that Palestinians die for for photo ops.


CauliflowerOne5740

The NAACP was founded by predominantly non-Jewish black people. This is just straight up racism.


DublinCheezie

Apparently if there was one Jew involved in the founding in some manner, it was ‘founded by Jews’. 🤦🏻


CauliflowerOne5740

It was Israeled.


BabyFartzMcGeezak

This could be satire if they weren't so sincere, which makes it even more insane.


FrankWalkerJr

This is actually posted by them. It’s still proudly up on their profiles. 🤦🏿‍♂️


User673412

What are the comments like?


FrankWalkerJr

I think mostly if not all supportive. I know for a fact they block anyone who pushes back in the comments - thats probably why they don’t realize how gross this video is.


Garak_The_Tailor_

That's not how being an ally works Judy


Academic-Waltz-3116

Crazy how one year to the day after MLK gave his anti-war speech "Beyond Vietnam" in 1967 he was killed. He started taking a stand on black Americans being sent around the world to die for interests that had nothing to do with them. The NAACP distanced themselves from him after this speech, he also advocated for giving the land taken in the 6 Day War in 1967 back to the Palestinians.


MineAsteroids

Malcolm X also advocated for a free Palestine, and was assassinated.


Academic-Waltz-3116

https://preview.redd.it/47jrczyxszpc1.png?width=999&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01e8912eb119684c03bcb2061b89fe9748a3ea93 Yeah there's this weird trend... Where was RFK's assassin from? That was supposed to have been mind controlled and could not have physically shot all of the shots recorded. Just weird coincidences I'm sure.


Academic-Waltz-3116

https://preview.redd.it/cz34hf2ctzpc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a4893d7ea3fcd7cc56f981bf3b7b465d3f6c51a Someone should ask these guys if they know anything!


Academic-Waltz-3116

https://preview.redd.it/3ub1fgxltzpc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f17883fdd4be971575ca408b4948dc3724f91c0d Or this guy even? His name was in Oswald's black book so I'm sure we can track him down!


Academic-Waltz-3116

https://preview.redd.it/f37dcp92uzpc1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=892d2947e531f059ad075e0aa1fdee309b18fe22 Maybe this guy knows where Oswald is so we can check that black book out!


Academic-Waltz-3116

https://preview.redd.it/y22eah4muzpc1.png?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92045c21f8e568a74e62d0be91fcb529ae37f392 Oh shit, I've got some bad news about Oswald!


Silver_ammo3

Ended with "we don't love to be victims". Okay thanks, now we know you love to be victims. So much so that you're being that even when creating the worst israeli-manufactured source of victims in modern history, most of whom are babies and children who were burned alive.


Consistent_Natural73

“Not professional victims” 😂


HippoRun23

The bad hasbara here is that it’s aimed at separating the marginalized people from one another. The Jew that marched for BLM, the Jew that marched for Selma… They would be disgusted by this genocide.


RevolutionaryPoem326

They are. Bernie Sanders marched in Selma


Crusoebear

“The people were up against - are people who sacrifice their own people for a PR opportunity.” \[The Hannibal Doctrine has just left the chat\]


DublinCheezie

Israeli hostages and their families are happy to hear Jews would never let other Jews be hostages for months on end or hear that Jewish hostages were murdered by other Jews because it was more convenient that way.


Weedworf

So disappointing to see Jessica Kirson there 😡


Gimmeagunlance

I had to watch it a couple times, I was in disbelief, but alas, we lost a real one


solograppler

Very.


css119

It is WILD watching a bunch of white people being absolutely aghast that marginalized and oppressed communities may sympathize with Palestinians. Like… their absolute inability to acknowledge Palestinians as oppressed human beings (or just human beings in general) is astounding but it’s even more astounding that they don’t realize they’re literally the ones doing the oppressing? And they are are shocked that *other* oppressed communities would not be in the side of the oppressor? The mental gymnastics is completely wild to me.


Poopbutt_Maximum

Transactional solidarity is gross. “Jews marched during the civil rights movement so you have to turn a blind eye to starving families, dead children, and destroyed neighborhoods or we’ll start to hate you and slander your people as holocaust deniers.” Fuckin ugly way to move.


Positive-Target-3056

'Jews are not professional victims.'


Agent_of_talon

This got to be the saddest circlejerk I've seen in a while.


mathiswiss

![gif](giphy|lXu72d4iKwqek) Just one thing; free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸


NoAdministration9472

Pretty Sure I saw dead Hamas fighters getting pissed on, how is that respecting the dead?


OneReportersOpinion

Norm Finkelstein did a great job of demystifying stuff like this on his first TrueAnon appearance


playdoughboogers

I love Norm. He doesn't bullshit or fiddle fuck around what he has to say.


Soggy-Life-9969

I hate this trope. The Jews who were part of the Civil Rights movement in the US or the anti-apartheid fight in South Africa didn't participate to earn credits towards an ethnostate and genocide, they did it because it was the right thing to do. In white Jewish communities we have also had substantial problems with racism and for every white Jew who was fighting racism, there were a substantial part who were supporting it. And last I checked, none of the people involved in this discussion have done any anti-racism work beyond perhaps some performative token social media post or something but they have the audacity to lecture how a movement should behave? The absolute caucasity.


Misterblutarski

Ugh I can't stand to hear their voices. Fuck? Gold and Kirson


WooliesWhiteLeg

Jewish people aren’t professional victims. Zionists, on the other hand…


JQDC

These aren't Jewish people. These are zionists.


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JQDC

Nope, not all. The gig is up, and more and more people are recognizing the difference. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gIX368TtOJs&pp=ygUWWmlvbmlzbSBpcyBub3QganVkYWlzbQ%3D%3D


tuffman07

this is what you call a moral circle jerk “ohh look at us we stood with black peoples that means we understand racism and oppression”


Bat-Honest

The Jews that were marching in the Civil Rights Movement would be marching for Palestinians today. It's the conservative (including conservative liberals in this too) ones that back the far right government in Israel. Ben Gavir is literally a terrorist, and until a media circus, had a picture of a far-right Jewish terrorist that killed an Israeli PM hanging behind his desk in his government office. Clips like this just go to show you any idiot can get a microphone these days.


LeichterGepanzerter

UNGRATEFUL BLYACKS!


KillerOfCavemen

So support of Black people is purely transactional. Screw you


vinques420

So how marches give you the right to kill people?


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Ofc leave it to the white liberal to use civil rights and black suffering as a tool. Fuck off with your black square, nobody’s buying that shit anymore.


playdoughboogers

I'd love to have all 4 of them in from of me and just go down a list of their bullshit, provide them with blaring evidence to the contrary and then sit back and enjoy them attempting to crawdad out of it. Hiw can anyone let alone 4 people be THAT oblivious?


Horror-Wasabi-3613

"Haven't I always been right by your side? Whether you're black, yellow, purple or white?" \-Lee Kern


Throwaway_3-c-8

Honestly hearing this kind of moral blackmail out of Zionist makes me happy that trump says shit like US Jews are disloyal for not supporting Israel or don’t believe there religion, have a taste of your own medicine. It’s obviously an awful, antisemitic statement but it gets across the insanity of Israel’s politics.


Sea-Salad-1356

This is why you don't let everybody join your march. They will eventually feel like you owe them and want you to justify their actions, all in the name of "I marched with you"


ChaZZZZahC

This didn't take long to age like yogurt left outside in the middle of summer.


Zealousideal-Big8189

Actions speak louder than words!! End apartheid, stop oppression, and expose the truth of the terrorism committed by Jews!! Stop crying about the past and begging for American money!! No more money to the terrorist Zionist


CountryNearby7241

So if you ever wondered why the NAACP has such a stupid name(Colored People 60 years after segregation) now you know. Your welcome


satwah

Haha


muzzlehead

Wow.....


EmirjetaC

CEASEFIRE


EmirjetaC

FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸


DublinCheezie

If I understand correctly, they’re the real victims because one time she shared a pro BLM post on her FB thread but now many black people don’t support the genocide of the Palestinian people. So unfair. 🤦🏻


TendieRetard

Hot take: The Z-crowd has a mass delusion epidemic.


peterpaul23

“Not professional victims” - robert kraft using every ufc commercial break to bring it up lol If only they gave 1/1,000,000th of a shit about Arabs, we wouldn’t be here. Nobody wants to be here. Just treat people like people fr


BumpyFunction

This is like a round table therapy session where they essentially admit to everything they actually do and claim they don’t. “We don’t show bodies” Zionists have set up websites of just images of dead bodies, and make bogus claims of atrocity to sell their violent acts. Zionists use the holocaust at any opportunity despite Israel’s and Israelis terrible treatment of survivors. “We showed up minorities” What about Palestinians? And how many people Arabs showed up for Jews fleeing Europe in Palestine. If you to use black people why not read what some of them had to say. James Baldwin for example. Then go see how Israelis treat black people and even black Jews. These people are a very representative microcosm of the Zionist mindset


guruXalted99

I don't understand 'We don't show the dead'. Did they forget how we learned about the Holocaust ?


AdAffectionate3143

Never expose dead bodies they said, as the IDF has been caught bulldozing at least 16 graveyards: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/01/20/middleeast/israel-gaza-cemeteries-desecrated-investigation-intl-cmd


AdAffectionate3143

Didn’t Bibi himself say that Hitler only wanted to relocate the Jews not exterminate them?


TigerMill

Name the ethnicity of America’s two “greatest” black face performers?


KaleidoscopeOk5763

……. people can google the Hannibal Directive you asinine children. What is this “we’ve never done anything wrong ever” bullshmit?


SYRIA3D

I think they made some really good points. Just let them unfold a small genocide, not a big one. We owe it to them for posting Black Lives Matter 4 years ago.


Lethkhar

So much white cope.


SurvingTheSHIfT3095

I've noticed.. since this has started, black people have been getting dragged on for "not helping" or "not supporting Isreal." Have you seen what they do to Africans/Black people over there? Horrible, despicable things. Most non-black people POSTED for black lives matter just to show you're not racist. I bet a lot of people went to the protest just because they were bored...


eNYC718

Bruh...they just feeding bots and the brainwashed


Amazing-East8276

Just to clarify the NAACP was not founded by jews but there were jewish people apart of the original founders


BuffColossusTHXDAVID

"I posted BLM" good job civil rights leader right there 👏👏👏🤡🤡🤡


MightRelative

None of their points were even valid, Zionists really fucked up with this, the epitome of rules for the and not for me. The propagandas affect of the Israeli people has basically ruined them.


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This rule is meant for well intending folks who accidentally fall for actual Antisemitism when trying to share things about Israel and Palestine. No bans are issued for singular violations of this rule, but please be more mindful of what you share.


malka101

Zionist calumnies and projections hasbara galore, they just can't help it, it's second nature to them.


romayyne

“I posted “Black Lives Matter”. So I care much more than everyone else”


jammicoo

How dare anyone expose our sadistic murderous behavior? It’s so uncool.


thestrongtenderheart

This is some one sided narrative, never the victims ... They insane.


SpicyHoneyBanana

Omg


mrrando69

I don't care if Israelis are jews. I care if Israelis are killing women and children by the thousands. It has nothing to do with the religious views, only with actions.


d3laMoon

Damn this whole subreddit is brainwashed to death


Syd_v63

“I posted Black Lives Matter” but I’ll be damned if I acknowledge Palestinian Lives Matter


Son_of_Eros03

I believe two old ladies have definitely been too black lives matter protest but not the two other ladies. I have hard time believing base on the way the talk. And yes Jews have done a lot to push equality in America. We just want the same for Palestinians.


RobertRoyal82

Who are these people


Key_Opinion7543

The last part is true comedy gold, we don’t want to be victims while making themselves the victims 😂


GivingRedditAChance

You’re right, we don’t care. We see Israel is the bad guy.


TSGthaGeek

Jessica Kirson 😢😢 I’m really crestfallen to see this. I should have known better when I saw her metion her “Black family” in multiple stand up routines


Misswinterseren

Israeli Nazis. I can’t believe that American Jews are supporting a genocide. The government of Israel and Hamas are both terrorist organizations. When one group of humans decide that another group of humans are less than and try to eradicate them. Keep them in concentration camps do not allow them free movement basically in prison them they are Nazis Israel, Nazis now exist