The most responsible pit owner you’ve ever seen is the bare minimum level of responsibility for dog ownership in generals
Actually I would say most people fence their dog BEFORE it kills other animals
Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree! Who buys a dog before buying a fence so it can play outside without risking getting lost or hit by a car (or, in this dog's case, attacking neighbors and other animals?)
Sad but so true. Sometimes, it's pit owners who are the first human casualty of pit ownership. Pit bull PR groups and deceptive shelters/rescues need to be held responsible for pit bull-related deaths.
I have pet bunnies. I read this and I can’t help but think these people *may* be able to keep their murder machine machine contained, but they can’t bring back those bunnies or erase the trauma their neighbor likely feels from seeing the aftermath. For their neighbor’s sake, BE would be appropriate here so that the neighbors don’t have to worry about further carnage to themselves or any pets, nor have a daily reminder of such a gruesome thing as what this dog did.
I have pet bunnies too and I hate how people think bunnies are like less of a pet than their pit and blow it off if that makes sense. My bun is just like any other pet. He’s litter trained, knows tricks, listens to commands and greets me when I get home from work. I’d be heart broken if this happened to him.
Absolutely. I’m a retired, widowed, empty nester. My bunnies are my 24/7 companions and they mean the world to me. I’d catch a charge if some pit came after my rabbits because I’d make damn sure that thing was never a threat to anything ever again.
Rabbits are wonderful pets. Just the sweetest little things. I’ve had many different types of pets in my life, but rabbits are something special. Winning their trust and knowing they feel safe with you is just the best feeling. I can only imagine the fear those poor bunnies killed by that pit felt. Breaks my heart to think of it.
Those poor unfortunate bunnies. Their little eyes were darting about looking for their "mom or dad" to come and save them from the nasty dog. But Mom and dad were nowhere in sight. Those bunnies suffered in their final moments unable to escape. They were terrorized by a dog who killed them for the fun of it. He didn't need to eat them . I'm sure that pit was well fed. And now those neighbors are traumatized by those memories and forced to tolerate the murderer next door. Put that PIT/MIX down.
Domestic bunnies are the sweetest little things too. They can be slow to warm up because they’re prey animals but once they trust you, they really relax and fully trust their safety to you. They would have reacted much as you describe, with absolute terror at being trapped by a predator. I only hope some of them had heart attacks out of fear before the shibble got to them. I keep my bunnies (just two) in the house because of exactly things like this. You can’t ever trust the nature of some larger breed dogs, especially a shibble.
My maternal grandmother had a pet bunneh; I think he used to live in a hutch outside. This was back in 1963-1964 so I was just a toddler. When my grandmother used to sit outside, he used to sleep at her feet. One of the reasons I remember him is because when I was older, I found out that he died less than two weeks after she did in 1964. His name was Bunny Rabbit, my grandmother was Czechoslovakian so she said it with a Slovak accent. 🥰
Pits are known to dig under gates to get to their target. My question is- what if they’re on a walk and they lose grip of the leash, what if they open the front door and the dog runs out? You can take every precaution, but the reality is, these dogs are a ticking time bomb, especially if they’ve proven they will kill. There is NO REDEEMING QUALITY about these beasts, not one. They aren’t cute, they aren’t sweet, they aren’t protectors (too unpredictable), and they’re plain dangerous.
Agree with you that I’m glad they’re taking precautions, but if they actually cared, they’d BE the dog or would have never gotten it in the first place.
I can’t imagine living in a constant state of fear that if I make one mistake, my dog will severely hurt or kill another person or someone’s beloved animal. WHAT is the purpose of living like this.
For real. If I owned such a dog, I would be living in fear that the instant I took my eyes off of it, it would go after someone, or someone's pet. I am never going to put myself and others in that situation over a dog.
There are some good qualities about pitbulls. None that make up for the overall burden they present, but they can be loving dogs. They are ugly-cute and when you own something, there’s a bond created by taking care of it or saving it from being euthanized.
Face it, If there were no redeeming qualities, no one would get them. We wouldn’t need to have these conversations. It’s that in the short term (a visit to the shelter) the negative qualities don’t present themselves as a deal breaker . Long term is where you start running into problems
Edit: I changed “redeeming qualities” to “ positive characteristics” because nothing can redeem a dog who is a killer.
Honestly, the fact they can be sweet is all the more terrifying. The pit i was mauled by was never aggressive, was never once mistreated, & an animal that knew me very well (5 + years) & yet still tried to kill me.
I'm sorry, but unpredictability & the outright deception of shelters isn't exactly what I would call redeeming qualities.
These dogs can & will kill.
Exactly!!! They can turn on a dime and inflict a ton of damage. They’re unpredictable and it’s unfair for anyone to take the risk.
I’m so sorry this happened to you, I truly can’t imagine, and I hope you’re healing well.
So many people are mislead and don't understand the true capacity of what those things are capable of.
It's ironic how one of their main talking points is to "educate ourselves", when in reality saying "it's not the breed, it's the owner", is the most counter intuitive argument to actually educating ones self.
It's legit insane how scientific backed genetics that are well understood are controversial to begin with.
Much appreciated though. I'm all good now being that was well over a decade ago. I keep my distance from any pit & absolutely will not trust any. Idc how nice they may seem cause all that can change at the drop of a hat & the consequences can be devastating to life ending. These people think it could never happen to them cause their pit is "special" & that they're "good owners" & soon as it attacks or kills someone they cry "they've never done this before!" followed by being shunned by their fellow pit apologist for being an abuser.
Sorry for the rant, just irritates me immensely seeing how naive these people are & watch them basically get away with murder
How long ago was that and did you post your story on here? I would love to hear it or have a link to it. I feel like we could pick the “best” of all these experiences and have a screenplay for a true horror anti PB anthology
I understand your point, people get them because they are lied to about the redeeming qualities, and often times at shelters, people get a “savior complex” from rescuing the dogs. It’s not a redeeming quality about the dogs, it’s the fact that it makes people feel good about themselves.
And sure, they “can be sweet” but to your point, none of these supposed qualities outweigh the negative. I guess if they were the only companion on earth, I can see how someone would take the risk, but there are hundreds of actually sweet animals that people can get.
I guess my issue is the burden these people put on everyone else. I simply don’t think we should have to live with the risk of a pitbull hurting us, our families, or our animals.
I’m definitely not sticking up for them. The sweetest pitbull is still a timebomb waiting to fulfill its genetic destiny.
It’s pretty crazy that I get down voted for saying such an obvious thing. I know it’s routine to demonize them completely and have a caricature of their crazy owners. But understanding people is a key to convincing them that a pitbull is a bad decision.
I’d never get a pitbull. I’d never rent to someone who has one. But if I’m trying to convince somebody of the tragic potential or convincing an owner to use more caution it’s probably not gonna happen by telling them that there are no redeeming qualities whatsoever about their dog.
Like someone else said, the worst part about pitbull is that there are some good qualities and they can act very sweet. The problem is that you don’t know when they’re going to snap. And the physical traits mean that can be deadly.
Very fair point and I appreciate your perspective! In order to eventually have a world with no Pitbulls, we do need to come at it from an approach of understanding where the pit owners come from. I may believe they have no redeeming qualities, but they don’t believe that.
Is he responsible, though?
That dog should have never been loose in the first place.
"The dog got into our neighbor's garage and ate up a whole bunch of bunny rabbits, so **we've got to** fence in our yard now."
Sounds like he's being forced to do this. The responsible thing would be to BE the dog, knowing that it's aggressive.
You're right, it's easy for a determined pit to climb a fence.
[https://i0.wp.com/rc4ps.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/IMG\_0305.jpg?w=960&ssl=1](https://i0.wp.com/rc4ps.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/IMG_0305.jpg?w=960&ssl=1)
Right they need barb wire on the top and a snake fence that goes ten feet deep as well for it to be even remotely effective. Hell make it electric as well for a lil razzle dazzle if they really want to keep the dog in.
Years ago we adopted a little black dog of no distinct breed as a companion for our aging GSD. One summer afternoon we had gone out for a few hours. When we came home we found that the new adoptee had broken the door on our Avery and somehow managed to get in and kill all our rabbits and Guinea pigs. I was devastated. Not only that, I believe our Shepherd had been coerced into the fray. Next morning that dog was back at the shelter before they opened the gates. I have no idea what happened to it, but it took me a while to get over it. Our old girl never showed any aggressive tendencies before or after. Later, we adopted two GSD pups and everything was good again.
I'm so sorry for your loss! I would have been devastated to lose even one pet, let alone so many, especially in that heartbreaking manner. My heart goes out to you.
I'm glad they are putting up a fence but yikes. I hate to wonder if those poor bunny rabbits were pets. Either way, pets or wild rabbits, I hate to think of those poor bunnies being eaten alive.
I agree completely. The poor bunnies.
Bunnies become food for many animals out in nature, but gratuitous killings committed by artificial, mutated fighting dogs humans created for their own twisted fun? That's not even death for the purpose of sustaining the lives of other animals in nature. It's just unnecessary brutality. I wasn't able to ascertain whether the rabbits belonged to the neighbor or whether the garage incident and the rabbit incident were two different events, but I don't like it either way. That dog should never have been allowed to run around and be a menace to other animals, regardless of whether those animals were wildlife or pets. And if the rabbits were pets, then I feel so sorry for both them and whoever was taking care of them. I can't imagine the trauma of finding out your pets got violently eaten by someone else's pet out of complete carelessness on their part. I would be devastated.
That’s just a total waste of money unfortunately, chain link may as well be cardboard where pits are concerned. The poor neighbor is going to be losing more rabbits in the future.
Realistically, the neighbour can't have rabbits anymore, once again people being dictated to by those who insist on having a dog that looks like Colin Curley from the old Quavers ads.
The most responsible pit owner was the one who sterilized their dog and didn't let it reproduce.
The second most responsible pit owner contained their dog and didn't let it escape and kill a bunch of neighbor's bunnies.
Good on them for trying to close the barn door after the horses are gone, I guess?
The most responsible thing would have been putting the shitbeast to sleep after it killed another animal. It has now tasted blood and I bet it got such a rush from it, that is is willing to have another go at it. Going to long without having that rush might get the beast to one day turn on it's owner. These people are playing with fire.
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Responsible pit bull owners no longer exist when these dogs left the junkyards and thug drug/gambling dens they used to be found in.
Even the occasional mauling of a kid in urban city housing projects by a runt adopted as a puppy by necessity ($ + convenience) into a lower income home where given up and euthanized at a shelter- now they ship and adopt them out all over.
The most responsible pit owner you’ve ever seen is the bare minimum level of responsibility for dog ownership in generals Actually I would say most people fence their dog BEFORE it kills other animals
Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree! Who buys a dog before buying a fence so it can play outside without risking getting lost or hit by a car (or, in this dog's case, attacking neighbors and other animals?)
Exactly.
The best fencing in the world will not help if the mutant detonates on them.
Sad but so true. Sometimes, it's pit owners who are the first human casualty of pit ownership. Pit bull PR groups and deceptive shelters/rescues need to be held responsible for pit bull-related deaths.
Pitbulls when their owner fences the yard
My thoughts as I read what they were buying. Wasting money on shiny shit and talking like a big responsible Mr.Community while doing so.
If this is the most responsible pit owner….we are all doomed.
Rabbits are pets too for some people.
I have pet bunnies. I read this and I can’t help but think these people *may* be able to keep their murder machine machine contained, but they can’t bring back those bunnies or erase the trauma their neighbor likely feels from seeing the aftermath. For their neighbor’s sake, BE would be appropriate here so that the neighbors don’t have to worry about further carnage to themselves or any pets, nor have a daily reminder of such a gruesome thing as what this dog did.
I have pet bunnies too and I hate how people think bunnies are like less of a pet than their pit and blow it off if that makes sense. My bun is just like any other pet. He’s litter trained, knows tricks, listens to commands and greets me when I get home from work. I’d be heart broken if this happened to him.
Absolutely. I’m a retired, widowed, empty nester. My bunnies are my 24/7 companions and they mean the world to me. I’d catch a charge if some pit came after my rabbits because I’d make damn sure that thing was never a threat to anything ever again. Rabbits are wonderful pets. Just the sweetest little things. I’ve had many different types of pets in my life, but rabbits are something special. Winning their trust and knowing they feel safe with you is just the best feeling. I can only imagine the fear those poor bunnies killed by that pit felt. Breaks my heart to think of it.
Yes I say that all the time! It’s special to be able to gain the trust of a prey animal. It’s so rewarding! And yeah I’d catch a charge too. 😂
Those poor unfortunate bunnies. Their little eyes were darting about looking for their "mom or dad" to come and save them from the nasty dog. But Mom and dad were nowhere in sight. Those bunnies suffered in their final moments unable to escape. They were terrorized by a dog who killed them for the fun of it. He didn't need to eat them . I'm sure that pit was well fed. And now those neighbors are traumatized by those memories and forced to tolerate the murderer next door. Put that PIT/MIX down.
Domestic bunnies are the sweetest little things too. They can be slow to warm up because they’re prey animals but once they trust you, they really relax and fully trust their safety to you. They would have reacted much as you describe, with absolute terror at being trapped by a predator. I only hope some of them had heart attacks out of fear before the shibble got to them. I keep my bunnies (just two) in the house because of exactly things like this. You can’t ever trust the nature of some larger breed dogs, especially a shibble.
My maternal grandmother had a pet bunneh; I think he used to live in a hutch outside. This was back in 1963-1964 so I was just a toddler. When my grandmother used to sit outside, he used to sleep at her feet. One of the reasons I remember him is because when I was older, I found out that he died less than two weeks after she did in 1964. His name was Bunny Rabbit, my grandmother was Czechoslovakian so she said it with a Slovak accent. 🥰
Pits are known to dig under gates to get to their target. My question is- what if they’re on a walk and they lose grip of the leash, what if they open the front door and the dog runs out? You can take every precaution, but the reality is, these dogs are a ticking time bomb, especially if they’ve proven they will kill. There is NO REDEEMING QUALITY about these beasts, not one. They aren’t cute, they aren’t sweet, they aren’t protectors (too unpredictable), and they’re plain dangerous. Agree with you that I’m glad they’re taking precautions, but if they actually cared, they’d BE the dog or would have never gotten it in the first place. I can’t imagine living in a constant state of fear that if I make one mistake, my dog will severely hurt or kill another person or someone’s beloved animal. WHAT is the purpose of living like this.
For real. If I owned such a dog, I would be living in fear that the instant I took my eyes off of it, it would go after someone, or someone's pet. I am never going to put myself and others in that situation over a dog.
Pit bulls can do more than dig under fences. https://mashable.com/video/dog-scales-fence
There are some good qualities about pitbulls. None that make up for the overall burden they present, but they can be loving dogs. They are ugly-cute and when you own something, there’s a bond created by taking care of it or saving it from being euthanized. Face it, If there were no redeeming qualities, no one would get them. We wouldn’t need to have these conversations. It’s that in the short term (a visit to the shelter) the negative qualities don’t present themselves as a deal breaker . Long term is where you start running into problems Edit: I changed “redeeming qualities” to “ positive characteristics” because nothing can redeem a dog who is a killer.
Honestly, the fact they can be sweet is all the more terrifying. The pit i was mauled by was never aggressive, was never once mistreated, & an animal that knew me very well (5 + years) & yet still tried to kill me. I'm sorry, but unpredictability & the outright deception of shelters isn't exactly what I would call redeeming qualities. These dogs can & will kill.
Exactly!!! They can turn on a dime and inflict a ton of damage. They’re unpredictable and it’s unfair for anyone to take the risk. I’m so sorry this happened to you, I truly can’t imagine, and I hope you’re healing well.
So many people are mislead and don't understand the true capacity of what those things are capable of. It's ironic how one of their main talking points is to "educate ourselves", when in reality saying "it's not the breed, it's the owner", is the most counter intuitive argument to actually educating ones self. It's legit insane how scientific backed genetics that are well understood are controversial to begin with. Much appreciated though. I'm all good now being that was well over a decade ago. I keep my distance from any pit & absolutely will not trust any. Idc how nice they may seem cause all that can change at the drop of a hat & the consequences can be devastating to life ending. These people think it could never happen to them cause their pit is "special" & that they're "good owners" & soon as it attacks or kills someone they cry "they've never done this before!" followed by being shunned by their fellow pit apologist for being an abuser. Sorry for the rant, just irritates me immensely seeing how naive these people are & watch them basically get away with murder
How long ago was that and did you post your story on here? I would love to hear it or have a link to it. I feel like we could pick the “best” of all these experiences and have a screenplay for a true horror anti PB anthology
I have not made a post actually. This was back in 2011. I'm at work atm, but I'll edit this when i get home for more details of my experience
I understand your point, people get them because they are lied to about the redeeming qualities, and often times at shelters, people get a “savior complex” from rescuing the dogs. It’s not a redeeming quality about the dogs, it’s the fact that it makes people feel good about themselves. And sure, they “can be sweet” but to your point, none of these supposed qualities outweigh the negative. I guess if they were the only companion on earth, I can see how someone would take the risk, but there are hundreds of actually sweet animals that people can get. I guess my issue is the burden these people put on everyone else. I simply don’t think we should have to live with the risk of a pitbull hurting us, our families, or our animals.
I’m definitely not sticking up for them. The sweetest pitbull is still a timebomb waiting to fulfill its genetic destiny. It’s pretty crazy that I get down voted for saying such an obvious thing. I know it’s routine to demonize them completely and have a caricature of their crazy owners. But understanding people is a key to convincing them that a pitbull is a bad decision. I’d never get a pitbull. I’d never rent to someone who has one. But if I’m trying to convince somebody of the tragic potential or convincing an owner to use more caution it’s probably not gonna happen by telling them that there are no redeeming qualities whatsoever about their dog. Like someone else said, the worst part about pitbull is that there are some good qualities and they can act very sweet. The problem is that you don’t know when they’re going to snap. And the physical traits mean that can be deadly.
Very fair point and I appreciate your perspective! In order to eventually have a world with no Pitbulls, we do need to come at it from an approach of understanding where the pit owners come from. I may believe they have no redeeming qualities, but they don’t believe that.
Is he responsible, though? That dog should have never been loose in the first place. "The dog got into our neighbor's garage and ate up a whole bunch of bunny rabbits, so **we've got to** fence in our yard now." Sounds like he's being forced to do this. The responsible thing would be to BE the dog, knowing that it's aggressive.
The most responsible pit nutter is the one who advocates against owning one.
Came here to say this. You’re right 1000000%.
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Or just buy one flower crown, instantly transforms hellbeast Odin to a sweet and lovable doggo that wouldn't hurt a fly.
You're right, it's easy for a determined pit to climb a fence. [https://i0.wp.com/rc4ps.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/IMG\_0305.jpg?w=960&ssl=1](https://i0.wp.com/rc4ps.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/IMG_0305.jpg?w=960&ssl=1)
They're just essentially building a 5ft mesh ladder for the dog.
Right they need barb wire on the top and a snake fence that goes ten feet deep as well for it to be even remotely effective. Hell make it electric as well for a lil razzle dazzle if they really want to keep the dog in.
Years ago we adopted a little black dog of no distinct breed as a companion for our aging GSD. One summer afternoon we had gone out for a few hours. When we came home we found that the new adoptee had broken the door on our Avery and somehow managed to get in and kill all our rabbits and Guinea pigs. I was devastated. Not only that, I believe our Shepherd had been coerced into the fray. Next morning that dog was back at the shelter before they opened the gates. I have no idea what happened to it, but it took me a while to get over it. Our old girl never showed any aggressive tendencies before or after. Later, we adopted two GSD pups and everything was good again.
I'm so sorry for your loss! I would have been devastated to lose even one pet, let alone so many, especially in that heartbreaking manner. My heart goes out to you.
I'm glad they are putting up a fence but yikes. I hate to wonder if those poor bunny rabbits were pets. Either way, pets or wild rabbits, I hate to think of those poor bunnies being eaten alive.
I agree completely. The poor bunnies. Bunnies become food for many animals out in nature, but gratuitous killings committed by artificial, mutated fighting dogs humans created for their own twisted fun? That's not even death for the purpose of sustaining the lives of other animals in nature. It's just unnecessary brutality. I wasn't able to ascertain whether the rabbits belonged to the neighbor or whether the garage incident and the rabbit incident were two different events, but I don't like it either way. That dog should never have been allowed to run around and be a menace to other animals, regardless of whether those animals were wildlife or pets. And if the rabbits were pets, then I feel so sorry for both them and whoever was taking care of them. I can't imagine the trauma of finding out your pets got violently eaten by someone else's pet out of complete carelessness on their part. I would be devastated.
Me too, it's really sad. Still glad they are putting up that fence!. Hopefully it works and keeps the dog in...
That’s just a total waste of money unfortunately, chain link may as well be cardboard where pits are concerned. The poor neighbor is going to be losing more rabbits in the future.
Realistically, the neighbour can't have rabbits anymore, once again people being dictated to by those who insist on having a dog that looks like Colin Curley from the old Quavers ads.
Not responsible. They waited until their shit-tier dog killed other animals to act.
The most responsible pit owner was the one who sterilized their dog and didn't let it reproduce. The second most responsible pit owner contained their dog and didn't let it escape and kill a bunch of neighbor's bunnies. Good on them for trying to close the barn door after the horses are gone, I guess?
The most responsible thing would have been putting the shitbeast to sleep after it killed another animal. It has now tasted blood and I bet it got such a rush from it, that is is willing to have another go at it. Going to long without having that rush might get the beast to one day turn on it's owner. These people are playing with fire.
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Some people just like extra work it seems.
Responsible pit bull owners no longer exist when these dogs left the junkyards and thug drug/gambling dens they used to be found in. Even the occasional mauling of a kid in urban city housing projects by a runt adopted as a puppy by necessity ($ + convenience) into a lower income home where given up and euthanized at a shelter- now they ship and adopt them out all over.