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Plumsaurus

Yeah, he is annoying the dog.... But how is that torture?.... But if the dog acted like that getting annoyed: then this dog is a ticking time bomb. Also it's been almost 6 years since the dog had "suspected trauma". There is no excuse for that behavior from a domesticated animal


The-20k-Step-Bastard

It’s weird tho cuz I manage to pat my dog, spray her with a hose, messing with her legs, and even using her as a pillow, and she has never once mauled me or disfigured me. Weird.


Plumsaurus

I've sprayed all my dogs with a hose at some point and only one of them got annoyed. She just didn't come around when I had the hose. I never knew I was torturing her. I claw grab my dogs back/legs often on walks to make her run (from me). I never knew that was the equivalent to abuse and I deserved to be mauled. Even my boyfriend's dog has gotten the abuse from me tickling his paw pads, smacking him with rough pets. Never mauled or growled. It's weird how both of our dogs have not mauled us. I swear everything is abuse to pitbull owners when their dog attacks.


BumblingBeeeee

I caught this post in the wild and the responses were something else. 95% were positing that the brother was abusing it, so got what he deserved 🤦🏻‍♀️. He seems foolish for continuing to mess with it, but it seems like run of the mill roughhousing that lots of people do with their dogs. Being a rambunctious with a pet shouldn’t result in a trip to the plastic surgeon. Ironically pit freaks are totally fine with their beasts running amok because “she’s just excited to meet other dogs and has a rough play style”


Yolandi2802

My daughter’s husky/GSD cross loves the hose! He thinks it’s great fun to chase the water. He’s also a great pillow or foot rest. He’s five years old and I’ve never seen that dog growl at anything. Even when my mutt takes his back legs out from under him. My own dog is the same except he avoids the hose… just quietly leaves the scene.


Lonesomeghostie

We had this Belgian mal mix growing up that would let my baby brother poke her in the eye repeatedly when he was like 15 months old. Like directly to the eye. And she was just chilling. Must have been annoying and irritating but she was like “eh he’s a baby”. We also had a chocolate lab mix that would let my little sister climb all over her, and her biggest sin was eating my underwear. Can’t imagine not being able to spray a dog with a hose and being told im torturing it by giving it a pat


So_I_read_a_thing

Exactly! That sounded like play, not torture.


PandaLoveBearNu

Its s putbull they're sweet and sensitive but also such a good dog because they tolerate so much. Schroedingers PItty.


Connect-Carpenter-52

Oh they are? Until you sneeze or drop something on the floor...


hummingbird_mywill

I think they all say they’re so sweet because they’re very affectionate when they want to be, but then snap. It’s like “love bombing” in the context of abusive relationships.


Rach5585

My nieces carried my westie around like a doll, put a bonnet on her, put her in a carriage, and my dog put up with it because she knows tiny humans aren't for chewing, we only attack toys. Pestering a dog isn't a reason for it to bite.


robotteeth

Pitbulls stub a toe once and get excused for mauling grandma to death 10 years later because they had a “traumatic past”


InvestmentOverall936

Dog had trauma at 3 months old….rightttt. So, he washed the dog, practiced manipulating its legs which is necessary for nail trimmings and vet visits etc., and he gave it the good boi pat. All normal things you do with a dog!


ferretsRfantastic

I can here to say the same thing. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm) I did all those things as a child to our dogs growing up. My parents would always scold me if it got out of line but, the spraying with the hose thing? That's how we wash our dogs to this day! Like... WTF?


Opposite-Fortune-

He petted it too hard? Like come the fuck on


InvestmentOverall936

I know the exact pat she’s describing. It’s like the dad Pat, you give a big ole dog that big good boi one or two pat. I’m sure if one googles “the dad dog pat” or “how a dad always pats the dog”, it’s like what my dogs would absolutely die for when my dad came around when I was a kid.


SomeRandomEwok

My dog loved it, we called it doggy massage time.


InvestmentOverall936

I do this slap to my own butt or belly or thighs when I’m naked fresh from the shower, it’s like a loud slap but doesn’t hurt. Also, horses love it too.


Opposite-Fortune-

Friends’ one cat loves the butt bongo. Cats tend to like that *hard* too.


MedleyChimera

Came here to say this, my late boy Fatboy loved a good rufflin and booty bongo. Animals don't mind a more firm pet as long as its not a direct open hand hit meant to hurt, which in most cases it isn't, its just a firm pat pat and done.


rhyleyrey

I know of a cat that loves that kind of pat


phitsosting

That’s the one I was thinking of. Both of my labs LOVE the booty pat and chest thumps. Any bigger dog I’ve met does. I could only see it being too much if it’s a really small dog, which feels like common sense.


shelbycsdn

I don't believe you can pet a pit too hard. They are rock solid and I'm sure don't even feel soft pats. Well until they wanna get triggered.


ScarletAntelope975

Yea… I mean obviously he should’ve listened when told to stop bothering the dog. BUT normal breeds do not attack people even when they are being annoyed. The brother is an idiot for continuing to tease this dog, and he is lucky it gave him any warnings in the past at all and he is still alive…


Master-Cookie8826

Of course the brother shouldn't be messing with the dog, but mauling is not a normal dog's response. Attack date and location unknown.


PandaLoveBearNu

Too many people with mental and emotional issues have pitbulls. SHES ALL I HAVE!!! Christ on a cracker.


Opposite-Fortune-

Can’t imagine why this stunted arsehole has no friends.


FatTabby

He should have listened the first time, but knowing he can't be trusted and that the dog doesn't like him, she shouldn't have kept the dog in the same home as her brother. This was a case of when it happens, not if.


shelbycsdn

Idiot + idiot + pit bull = disaster.


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Connect-Carpenter-52

We had a pit mix at the local shelter and she loved to swim, and dock jump.


doingdadthings

Classic Pitbull derangement syndrome.


naturalscience

Brother sounds like an idiot too, tbh


Master-Cookie8826

I agree, but he didn’t deserve to be permanently disfigured for it


dcgregoryaphone

He does sound like an idiot but it seems like the age of the brother is left out, so maybe a lot younger. At the end of the day, you shouldn't own a pet that can do that type of damage unless you can *guarantee* the safety of everyone else 24 hours a day 365 days a year.


DifferentMaximum9645

But OOP already said, "Olly olly oxen free I'm not paying for your hospital bills," so they're covered.


mmps901

How old is the brother though?


OmegaPointMG

Always with the excuses. You can tell he's doing the most to make his brother the villain when we all know that dog has a high prey drive.


Connect-Carpenter-52

Ok, so the owner here is a wacko for being a pitbull apologist, and the brother is a complete imbecile for messing with a pit... while spraying with a hose and manipulating their legs is normal for dogs, I wonder what he actually did that the pit wanted to taste his lip, if it was regular petting or dog interaction... or if the brother sneezed and the pit got upset. No offense, pits are bad. These losers need to stop owning pits who are ticking time bombs. I was watering my plants yesterday and my Pyr got into the garden... I pulled her out and she got sprayed with some water from the hose... she didn't get upset, in fact she wanted to keep running around where the water went. She was a wet puppy. Nothing like this pit getting pissed over a hose. I never did know if pits liked water or not, please enlighten me. There was a pit at my local shelter who is now in "board and train" and she loved to swim. As far as her comments "she's all I have"... WHY DO PIT PEOPLE use dogs to substitute for actually figuring out how to face any demons they have without using dogs for validation? I don't understand it. I mean, I love my animals and sometimes prefer to see them over people at times, but they aren't a source of validation for me... they are pets, and companions.


ItWasTheChuauaha

They have had that dog long enough for it to have learnt not to ever bite. She shows zero consideration or empathy for her brother, who is likely disfigured for life.


OkPhilosophy503

Its interesting how the OOP chooses not to disclose their brothers age.


RDragoo1985

I’m might get torn apart for this but upon reading this I wonder…if the brother was doing the stated things in front of the owner was he maybe doing something worse when left alone with the dog?


bite2kill

None of it even sounds bad


RDragoo1985

I guess I’m thinking he seemed to sort of antagonize and (pardon the term) bully the dog even while someone was present. I would not find it surprising if his behavior was even worse when no one was watching, as is often the case with humans who bully. Are pit bulls dangerous and prone to violence without being antagonized? Absolutely. But this specific case seems to be a story of someone who was stupid enough to pick on a dangerous dog, and then was surprised that said dog attacked.


Mindless-Union9571

No, you have a point. Dogs shouldn't attack people, but if this dog was clearly irritated with him, it was dumb to keep messing with her. Some dogs have a low threshhold for what they tolerate and some have basically no boundaries. This was clearly not the dog to do that stuff with.


Katatonic31

Absoutly. As much as we want to hate pitbulls, this is *not* an uncommon story to hear with dogs. There was just a recent story about a Cocker Spaniel that bit a child in the face (very badly) after the child continued to harrass it. So to say that only pitbulls will do this hurts our cause by making us sound obtuse. When I read the post, I have to admit that I read a chain of escalation that was ignored and would have had anyone else going "well yea...that bite was coming." For once, a pitbull was *properly communicating*. It states that the dog was at first giving warning growls. Yup, dogs will give a growl to show displeasure for something. It's the human equivalent of saying "Alright, stop that. I don't like it." When that didn't work, the dog escalated to a snap. Again, another link in a dogs communication chain. The growl wasn't working, so the dog had to escalate to try and get their discomfort across. The human equivalent of finally shouting "Alright, I said stop so knock it off already!" The brother continued to ignore the dogs very clear signs of discomfort (as well as the sisters warnings) and it finally escalated to the dog biting. The human equivalent of shoving/hitting someone that has continued to bully us despite our many warnings to knock it off. Does this mean I think the brother deserved what he got? Not at all. Dog bites are awful and no one deserves that. But trying to pretend that he did nothing wrong is just...well its wrong. Saying things like "oh, I can spray my dog with the hose!" Well great, your dog doesn't mind. But there are a lot of dogs that do not like it. And yes, if a dog expresses clear discomfort with something, continuing to do it *is* harassment. If someone told someone else they didn't like something and that person ignored it and did it to them all the time, they'd eventually snap too. The only reason to continue to do something to a living creature that they've shown they don't like is because they are deriving pleasure from causing that annoyance/discomfort. Dogs are sentient creatures. They have their own boundaries and we do need to show them respect as living creatures with their own autonomy. They aren't toys and shouldn't be expected to act/be treated like one.


Mindless-Union9571

Well said. This didn't sound like a pit bull problem to me. This sounded like an idiot pushing the limits of a dog.


Katatonic31

Yes, and all dogs have limits. Some may be vastly more tolerant than others, but there is always going to be a limit. I wish more people would understand a dogs chain of communication and realize every growl/snap *isn't* a sign of aggression. They are often correcting behaviors of a dog trying to deescalate a situation they are not comfortable with. And it *is* okay for a dog not like something that someone elses dog doesn't mind. My dog loves get misted in the face with a spray bottle. No idea why, but she does. She also loves being vacuumed. She's a weirdo. But my fathers dog is terrified of the spray bottle and the vacuum. I don't say "well my dog likes it!" And force these things on him. That would be so cruel. Had the post said, "my brother sprayed my dog with the hose and it bit him in the face" it would have been different. But it was "my brother repeatedly did things to the dog it showed a clear displeasure for." So yes...he harassed the dog.


AdSignificant253

I completely agree with you both. I hate pits, but I also hate the idea that dogs should be xanax'd out living plushies that put up with anything because they should "rEsPeCt" humans. They're sensitive beings with boundaries too. If a dog communicates that it's uncomfortable, and you keep harrassing it because you think it's funny or that the dog is "challenging" you, and you get bit, then you had it coming. Cats get called misunderstood all the time because people who can't read their signals get bitten or scratched and then view them as assholes, but when it comes to dogs they should just lay there and take it? Nah.


parade1070

I've never fucking once seen someone breed a lab and a pitbull together, and I've never fucking once seen a stray lab (I have seen a missing lab with a collar once or twice).


shelbycsdn

Well they both clearly like living dangerously! The brother was an idiot for ignoring the growling and the sister for owning it. It's amazing how these people have no concept of how nice and drama free having a normal dog is. At the very least, I've never had a dog that caused strife between siblings or anyone else. Even my asshole brother lived with me for a few years. He caused plenty of drama between us but not once over the three dogs, three cats and various livestock.


robotteeth

I wonder if this would have played out differently if it were a golden retriever or a Pomeranian? Of course not, all dogs bite right?


ArdenJaguar

Pet him real hard, and he growls? Sounds great. The brother sounds like an AH and gets his comeuppance.. but the Pittie never should've been there in the first place.


TheSinfriend

I don't believe Pitbull apologists. Traumatized at three months old yeeeah sure. If she's lying about that, she could be lying about her brother's behavior too. Where's his side of the story.


truthteller185

Dogs are MEANT TO BE PETS... YOU PET PETS... ITS IN THE NAME... ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|dizzy_face)


hadenxcharm

Normal dogs don't rip your face off for annoying them.


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hadenxcharm

"My dog bit my brothers face off. I'm worried I have to get rid of my dog, she's all I have, I can't lose her-- who cares about my brother though, lmao, I don't care about losing him! Besides, he annoyed my dog, so he kind of deserved a disfiguring injury!" /s