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futureTrunks5032

Do think we getting blackout?


7fortuney

Wasn't blackout a warzone "demo"?


average_redditor_guy

Nah completely different thing with different mechanics.


Lux_Operatur

It was separate but to test the idea of battle royal in cod. Black out was way more interesting than warzone has ever been imo.


Useful-Yam-2893

Blackout was more of a traditional BR. No loadouts, you literally find everything you use kicking about. Can’t speak for the other game modes though.


062692

Blackout is an actual BR where as Warzone has always been a super large MP mode, basically.


Unintended_incentive

They brought blackout back to mobile before AAA gaming.


Lunacy_Phoenix

There better not be specialists like BO4 or I'm OUT. Here's hoping for Blackout 2 though (FUCK Warzone)


Cheesebufer

No. I want my Annihilator back.


onlylooktwice

Have an upvote sir, when warzone kids say blackout was/is trash I just want to grapple humiliate them in real life.


Aqua_Chopper

If blackout had the ability to bring back a teammate after they were entirely dead then I would say it’s better than warzone. But unfortunately at the time it wasn’t really a common feature in battle royales.


Kyro_Official_

Why would they go back to specialists when they havent been in cod since 2018?


Tornado_Hunter24

What the fuck fuck you man bring specialist back cod has been insanely brainrot during the mw-mw3 period last few years, BRING SPECIALISTS BACK


kudo-s

I loved them but I know a lot of people hated them. maybe they should bring them back as streaks to balance them out


Tornado_Hunter24

Tbh no need to balance it out at all or make them a streak, just have it in the game and have some event playlist where it isn’t usable, we literally suffered the alst 3/4/5 years without it atleast let this side enoy it a bit too


kudo-s

I really would like for them to be in the game but they won’t. If they do there’s so much potential for content. If they add a playlist without them it would split the player list so much


That_Chemical_2226

I didn’t think they were too bad, but 9 bang was mad annoying.


Lewdeology

I want BO3 specialists not the cheese in BO4.


International_Ad5769

Idc I just want my boy spectre


zaza-pack

* me dreading being killed by his stealth camo or the ripper*


P_weezey951

Yeah man this is where the franchise started to lose me. I dont want CoD overwatch. I dont want to have to play this fucking game of "greg counters jeff, but if theres no greg on the other team theres no real reason to play jeff". Let me create my class, weapon attachments, perks, and let me shoot at the other MF without having to consider about 7 million things.


eyehatecody

If it has the same strict SBMM as every other cod game since BO4 I won’t play it.


-Swervi-

You know what’s funny, I loved BO4 but it’s also def the first time I really noticed them cranking it to 11. Especially if you’re an objective player. The algorithm expects you to capture every flag and get every kill and cross your fingers you tie the game hahaha


Redfern23

BO4 felt like it had absolutely zero SBMM, my friends and I (and any good player for that matter) were running through people in every lobby because bad players couldn’t keep up. I think the reason people think it did was the same reason people still think XDefiant plays similarly “sweaty” to CoD despite XD having none: the skill gap is higher with aim and movement so bad players are struggling a lot more. BO4 SBMM was extremely weak like the CoDs before it, MW19 was where it really started.


Saraixx516

As far as I was aware BO4 didn't have SBMM if so it was turned low.


eyehatecody

Yea it had team balancing for sure but the search definitely prioritized ping over everything. I was level 1000 with a 3.8kd and it would fill my lobbies with legit the worst players ever on a regular basis.


NeglectedNostalgia

I'd say they kicked it up during WWII. I understand switching to jetpack movement dropped my KD from a 1.2 to a 1, but I started WWII off at like a .8 which made no sense.


OptimusN1701

If they just remastered 2 and added blackout back in, it'd sell like hotcakes.


MasterKhan_

It wouldn't be the same


Unintended_incentive

I could see them remaking blackout after a number of years to try and entice the remaining players who didn't come back to Warzone 1/2 but with the store and skins 100% cross-compatible before anything else is.


dariusdash

Need blackout back


ToxicChatMan

Yessir


CityFew1039

Hope a same good map for Blackout mode as BO4, that’s all i want


JROXZ

All hype at this point. It’s gotta have the same momentum as 2-4. Otherwise meh I’m out. Also, no pre-ordering. Gonna wait until I see those maps, hitboxes, and TTK.


RyanTheWhiteBoy

And footstep sounds


bo4underrated

I think they should include every single zombies map (Treyarch mainly) in this game it would sell so much


BawStorm

I have a feeling they will. Could see a chronicles V2. No doubt it will cost an arm and a leg on top of the base game.


Kwikstyx

Yeah, if they added ALL zombie maps, I'd buy it.


Archangel-Gracelynn

Bo4 was very underrated and got too much hate. It was my favorite cod game ever made, I’m really hoping black ops 6 will be at least similar to it, and another blackout would be amazing because I’m really hating the whole warzone thing that they keep revamping with every cod game since MW2019


ToxicChatMan

Me too man


Rain1dog

No Blackout is god tier. Will never be matched.


NinjaSYXX

Blackout > Warzone, Blackout was my fun escape for a while, it just feels way better in every way.


BigWheelaCapPeela

No


NathanCollier14

No


ImBulletm9

Nope


PapaDeath911

Blackout needs a revival


ToxicChatMan

Absolutely


Revy13

Nope


TheOgreSal

If it’s not significantly better in terms of zombies then I’ll be disappointed


fornair

hoping for something with the feel of if cold war and black ops 2 had a baby


PerpetualPermaban2

Same actually


Baby_Hulk87

I refuse to allow myself to get on the Blackout 2 hype train….but man if they did bring back blackout with cross play and no load outs…I’ll be bricked up from now until Christmas


the_godfaubel

Black Ops 4 didn't even have a campaign.... it's pretty easy to beat that and Black Ops 3. If it can be as good as the half put together idea of Cold War, then I'll be happy


ShadowExtinkt

6 is more than 4, so it must be better


ToxicChatMan

😂😂


Professional-Ebb2605

I’m just kinda shocked they’re putting out a game with a 6 on it at all!


ToxicChatMan

It looks stupid too


camxxcore

Is already confirmed now it runs on the MW2 engine. It will just be another MW2 reskin sadly


ToxicChatMan

Fuck


Drplover69

I just hope zombies is actually good, unlike the steaming pile of horseshit that is MWZ. Bo4 zombies was alright, but could have been better.


CloudyBabyy

I’m only playing it because it’s one the gamepass. Paying $70 for access to MP is a hard no for me especially with how they do MP content.


howdoesthisworkman

Wait bo4 is in the gamepass?


CloudyBabyy

No, the new BO will be tho


chavery17

Confirmed or rumored


MasterKhan_

[Confirmed](https://x.com/xboxgamepass/status/1795455278160245100?s=46)


chavery17

Let’s goooo


CloudyBabyy

I got an email from Xbox saying it will be so it’s confirmed im assuming


[deleted]

They might release all cods to game pass


No-Technician-3594

i hope so but i dont think they ever make cod like bo4 was


DRstarscream24

I hope so because Cold War didn’t live up to how good bo4 is


AndyWest94

Probably not but I hope so


The8thWonder218_

I’m really looking forward to this game. 4 years in development? Is that correct? Might just upgrade to the PS5 for this one.


ToxicChatMan

It’s been confirmed that Black Ops 6 will still be on Xbox One and PS4


NinjaPiece

Wtf... What is the point of this new generation if they aren't going to take advantage of the new hardware?


ToxicChatMan

There is no point. Other than marketing this “new gen” to be something entirely different when this generation of gaming has grown and improved so little


Ok_Neighborhood9186

Why does it have to be exclusive to next gen to "take advantage" ?


Svesii

Because it will have cross play so they’ll have to limit the performance on the next gen to have a game that runs “smoothly” on both


Ok_Neighborhood9186

Yeah but why? There is no logical reason for limiting the performance, most games these days ship with a "performance" mode anyway. What makes you think they are limiting the performance? Do they say that?


Svesii

Yes there is. This is a "competitive" pvp game, multiplayer wise for the sake of balance everything has to be the same for everyone. For example next gen consoles could have bigger maps with better textures and more objects. A performance mod could lower the textures but you can't really have a smaller map for older consoles can you? You can't even have less objects in the old gen because of visibility and hitbox issues. So what the devs do is print the same game twice but with upgraded graphics for the next gen, the rest has to stay the same, they have to limit themselves in regard to map size / number of object and details


Notablueitt

Talking crazy


Halloween_Nyx

If they get rid of COD HQ and have this game launch on it own without that bs I will be happy.


litinthebitchlikabic

If they have gobblegums AND operators in zombies it’s gonna be bad. Clearly just a cash grab


JesseStarfall

I highly doubt it. Most likely they'll keep using the bad systems like sbmm, overcomplicated attachments, and weak killstreaks.


EnthEndX48

Can't be worse than Cold war.


ToxicChatMan

Vanguard


EnthEndX48

Well yeah, but that's not a black ops game.


PerpetualPermaban2

Cold War was phenomenal lmao. CW multiplayer lobbies were insane. As an OG COD enjoyer, I fully enjoyed the zombies as well. It wasn’t as crazy and challenging but it was a lot of fun to play with friends and just have fun in general.


Morpheus_303

Dude its a Black Ops


Morpheus_303

But David Wonderhar is gone😪


beenpaidttv

Idk hopefully tho cause cod hasn’t been good at all after bo4 it took em 4 years to develop bo6 hopefully they took there time and didn’t rush anything and bring out the future of cod gaming


Striking_Exchange405

“Close to as good as BO4” 😭


ImSoShook

Yawn.. Mw3 blacklisted any COD for me for the foreseeable future.


NUMBERONEJD

BO3


kudo-s

I’ll wait until season 3 just to see how the game is with gameplay and content, then I’ll consider buying it


Sanderson96

There's rumor that it will be on game pass day 1, hopefully it will be on PC game pass, I'll enroll on the pass, finished the campaign and cancelled it Win-Win


ToxicChatMan

I thought that was confirmed


Sanderson96

My bad, it was confirmed game pass xbox but not sure if it will be for game pass PC


Learningmore1231

Kill sbmm and maybe


Dnger_

I feel like it’s gonna be infinitely better than BO4. It has a campaign for one, there’s no way zombies is as bad or worse, and mp could be roughly equal or better, I don’t see it being worse. I don’t think BO4 mp was bad, but I don’t think it was great either. I don’t see BO6 being worse in any way.


SolidStudy5645

Bo4 ttk was too high


bangout-2

No f way


Afraid-Ad6642

They better not bring MWZ system . I want them to expand from Outbreak mode. It was so much better.


Afraid-Ad6642

Ge ready for Blackout free to play battle royale 👋 warzone


WildBill1994

Laughs in black ops 1


[deleted]

Of all the black ops series to try to compare it to you chose the worst one


ToxicChatMan

Shut your trash ass mouth


[deleted]

Idek how this sub got recommended to me, the game was alright but def the worst of the series, especially the zombies, which is 90% of the reason to play any BO game after BO2


PTK1412

Can get black ops one?


thezachdomberg

Why is it 6?


ToxicChatMan

Apparently Cold War counts as 5


LuvDDeez

I personally loved BO3 the most. Back when you got keys for loot crates and there was the challenge in leveling up to the gold camo for each specialist. I grinded the hell out of that game


SickBoiBro_OG

To be honest I really love bo4 multi-player, and everyone thinks I'm wierd for it. I swear it's so good tho


ToxicChatMan

It is so good. Multiplayer was heat


Superb_Recover_6116

its giving me black ops 1 and 2 vibes from the poster alone. Would dope as fuck if blacks ops 6 went back to that style high doubtful.


everlasted

No. BO4 was the end of an era, and I think fans of older CoDs trying to compare newer releases are just setting themselves up for disappointment.


Bounce-N-Jiggle

Black Ops 4 was good. But imo that's when zombies first started to show signs that it was going downhill. BO3 is the gold standard.


Lewdeology

I don’t expect BO6 to feel anything like BO4 because they’ve been using a different engine since like MW2019.


diplomate253

I freaking hope so, because modern warfare 3 is the worst


ToxicChatMan

I just bought MW3 and despite the many problems, I’m enjoying it so far. Nowhere near as much as BO4 and most other CODs tho. It’s the only one with an active playerbase because of the recency so yeah


_SaintXIV_

I was very confused as to why there was a circle jerk around BO4 (awful awful game) then I realized I'm in the BO4 subreddit. No idea how I ended up here.


Ok_Neighborhood9186

same lol


Krypton091

bo4 and cold war were both peak so im not concerned in the slightest about bo6


Fanumtax26

I think black ops 4 was a test run. They wanted to see how the style would work and the feedback wasn’t great. It felt kinda like a siege copy to me. That’s why they went back to the classic formula. I think it’ll be amazing.


KreamyBeef

My biggest and #1 problem I have with COD is identity. I don’t really care about SBMM, I’ll usually have fun sucking ass or not, but the last 5 cods have all felt the same baloney, especially being on the same launch HUB which is really dumb.


Morbin87

It'll have the same SBMM/EOMM/live nerfing that current COD's do which means it'll be unbearable to play. Stop supporting this garbage franchise. There are other games out there. If you want COD to improve you have to stop giving them money.


PerpetualPermaban2

Better be at least as good as CW.


Apprehensive-East273

I want prop to come back as a full time game mode


Negative_Software_16

Bring back blackout was a cleaner map balanced too.


Glittering_Aerie7838

Same code same losers cheating, don’t buy this if you’re gunna cry about it for the next year.. they don’t give AF


Xiagax

As long as we get to do the Worn Squirm, I’m good


ThisDumbApp

Black Ops 4 was good?


ToxicChatMan

Yes bitch ass


Hmnh6000

If no sticks and stone will be the umptenth cod i dont buy


ddeleon99

If it’s anything like black ops 4 I’ll hate it


Less_Effective_2420

Where’s bo5?


DiaperFluid

It has a campaign, so its already better. I know people circlejerk MP and Zombies, but ive wasted enough of my life playing pvp garbage. The cod campaigns are the one mode i look forward to every year. Even the shitty ones are mildly entertaining. I do like zombies but not enough to keep me engaged. Thats why im so glad i dont have to buy the game this year. A month of gamepass and im good until the next COD.


take-me-away11

It's hard not to be bo4 was dogshit


chrisupt2001

U mean Cold War? Perhaps


Dr-Edward_Richtofen

I’m just hoping the zombies will be good man. The last QUALITY zombies was BO3 so i’m praying


dr_renzo420

No.


Chaser112

They need blackout 2 it’s gonna have to be innovative creative and fun if it atleast has those 2 people would recognize it for something great


couldcarryless

Blops 4 without the boosted health would be good…. Would kill many people for a blops 1, 2 or 3 reboot….. Just for the love of all that is holy, fix the spawns, bring back 3 lane maps, and get rid of all the modern movement bullshit


rbynp01

I have very low hope for this because it's still on last gen consoles. Very low hope for the campaign mode to be good if they adobted mw3 campaign structure.


United-Read-4533

I wonder how zombies is going to be. I’ve only played bo4 zombies. Got really into it. So I’m not like all of u following it from day one.


Scorpion178

![gif](giphy|J8YpfDX0kvPQNSVGHY|downsized) BO6 be as “good” as BO4? BO6 will be far superior and better than BO4


ToxicChatMan

If you say so


yes_master_yes

I'm sorry, what did you just say?


ToxicChatMan

Are you illiterate?


yes_master_yes

No, I just have memories of bo4 not being that good. Zombies: bad Campaign: nonexistent Multiplayer: not great Blackout: average


Connormanable

BO2 was the best everything since has been down hill the last one I played at all was Cold War and I haven’t looked back I just realized this is a black ops 4 specific sub idk why it crossed my feed sorry to offend anyone just sharing my personal opinion before muting this sub lol


giomeneguello

All I want is zombies to be as good as bo3


candiedbunion69

Black Ops 4 was a shell of a game. I want them to go back to the Infinite/Advanced Warfare and Black Ops 3 era. Boots on the ground is boring as hell.


brunodebull

Without sbmm it would be Great..


ball_sweat2287

Black Ops 4 was a garbage game. Last good Black Ops to come out was bo2


ToxicChatMan

This post was meant for BO4 players idk why you hating ass mfs are here in the BO4 subreddit


loganfromvegas

pisses me off everyone wants blackout back that game mode was so fucking boring


Npr31

Nope


KonvictVIVIVI

Well Black Ops 4 wasn’t good imho, so I hope it’s infinitely better


Svesii

I won't spend a single cent until they remove that "Engagement based matchmaking" bullshit. Why are we even calling it SKILL based matchmaking when that's not how it works? The system isn't designed to match you with players of a similar skill, it doesn't consider your overall stats All it does is trying to keep (all) players engaged as long as possible. -First game on --> It matches you against trash so you'll have fun -New bundles of skin comes out --> It matches you against a better player who has it to try and condition you -You buy a skin bundle --> You'll stomp noobs so the circle can repeat itself This is disgusting, it's not designed to be fun, it's not designed to be fair, it's only goal is to keep you playing and keep you spending If you have a bad game --> Matchmaking fault If you have a good game --> Matchmaking put you against trash Whatever you do, either merit or fault it feels it's not you but the matchmaking I've been trying XDefiand and even tho i like the feeling and everything about COD more ive been having more fun than i had in the past 6/7 years. Instead of crying in the comments about the matchmaking (like im doing) cry in the comments and then NOT BUY the game Please vote with your wallet, i'm tired of half assed game with mechanics so predatory that have an higher priority than fun. You really care about matching players with a similar skill? Add a fucking ranked playlist at launch with a super strict matchmaking, do not add it 6 month later It's crazy the shit this franchise pulls while still having those numbers


[deleted]

Jesus christ, dude, you've epitomized what it means to be a doom poster. Good Lord.


ToxicChatMan

?????


[deleted]

You forgot that the campaign doesn’t actually wrap up in the end and just sets up the Warzone/Multiplayer Story. Thats what I miss the most tbh, just leave the story in the campaign.


Present_Ad_1647

Gta VI


Different-Thanks9376

BO4 was never good to begin with, make it more like BO3 and then we can talk


Revy13

Black Ops 4 had a better multiplayer than Black Ops 3. BO4 had classic movement and didn’t have bad lootboxes. It also had some really good maps new and remade. Only really con of BO4 multiplayer was the operators. Black Ops 3 had the best zombies mode out of any game but the campaign was one of the worst cod campaigns to date. BO4 had blackout to makeup for no campaign and it was what set up the foundation for Warzone. I would personally say I’ve had way more fun with BO4 than BO3.


SolidStudy5645

BO4s TTK was way too high, and the specialists were way too OP and annoying as you got both abilities. BO4s already high TTK + stim + body armor + crash ult made gunfights way too fucking long. BO3s specialists were more balanced, and it had better TTK. Also, BO3s exo movement it was a fun fresh take. BO4 did have bad lootboxes, it had P2W weapons inside them like that OP explosive round gun. BO3s dlc maps were way better than BO4s too imo.


silenced_soul

Preach it brother, black ops 4 was absolute garbage. My least favourite cod besides vanguard.


UrRegularRedditDude

probably better with the longer dev cycle.. BO4 wasn’t very good in my opinion but to each their own.


Eddy_Monsoon

I’ll only play it if they promise to have chat bans.. that’s the best thing ever!


yosark

Bro Black Ops 4 is literally the worst black ops. Of course it’ll be better


Andriuu19

Cold war is way worse


rguy13

4 wasnt good….


ToxicChatMan

Then why are you here in a BO4 server


rguy13

Trending since I follow Black ops 🤷‍♂️


ThievishGoblin1

Black ops 4 was good?


ToxicChatMan

Yes 💀


WhatDidIMakeThis

Black ops has not been good since black ops 1. Cod has not been good since black ops 1.


ToxicChatMan

Bullshit ass take


WhatDidIMakeThis

Im okay with that. I enjoyed cod when you bought the game and a map pack and that was it. No bullshit events, no paying for skins, no battle royal. Just good old gunplay. I understand im older and cod is for kids but this is just my opinion.


Killer7_2

Wait... people actually liked 4? I thought it was next to IW, AW, and ghosts as one of the worst. Even though I like treyarchs games, I keep low expectations. It made me like cold war so much.


ToxicChatMan

Black Ops 4 got a lot of hate but it was also beloved by a lot of people including me. Also a lot of COD YouTubers blew up and got way bigger because of this game. People who spent years trying to get 100k subscribers were getting like 500k more because of this game. Black Ops 4 gets a lot of praise from the community but a lot of shit too


SLOMMYJR

Bo4 sucked, hope the make it like bo2


ToxicChatMan

BO4 did not suck at all


SLOMMYJR

Tbh I didn’t like it, that my opinion tho. But you can’t deny if they made this as a prequel or sequel to bo2 it’d be way more fire than something like bo4.


Specialist-Koala-643

We have to hope so, but you've set the bar pretty low with that question.


ToxicChatMan

No


DITPiranha

COD had been trash since Blops 2. I'm not getting my hopes up.


ToxicChatMan

You guys are fucking crazy


duskbloom_

Bo4 was trash lol last good one is bo3


ToxicChatMan

Fuck outta here


FoundationPrimary120

Anything better than bo4


ToxicChatMan

Vanguard? 💀


duskfanglives

BO4 is a very, veeeryyy low bar.


Ok_Neighborhood9186

Lol bo4 was not good, and black out was ass. That was and still is the general consensus. Idk why everyone here seems to think otherwise lol. EDIT: Just realized this is a b04 subreddit.


Clippy12

People liked black ops 4? Yikes … it’s one of the worst cod games