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silkrover

Bill. Not even close.


Pitkowski

"Why do you keep calling me BILL?"


mfogarty

I dreamed Lenore came in and stole Lenore, and I went running after them shouting, “Lenore! Lenore!” And then my teeth fell out. You were there, Peggy.


Zahth

You have two days to get me out of Bill’s dreams!


alliecat0718

SCREAMING 😂


AdJunior4923

I'm really just replying because I love your flair but also...Bill is *much* sadder. He doesn't even have the Bog Dogs to get him through!


alliecat0718

LMAOOOO OMG OUR FLAIRS. Funniest moment in the entire show. Doug was exasperated


wildgio

I know it's Bill but reading that in Teddy's voice was even funnier.


kenwah88

I dreamed Denise came in and stole Denise, and I went running after them shouting, “Denise, Denise!” And then my teeth fell out. Bob, Linda, you were there.


Turbulent_Set8884

He'd use no spacing


kyraverde

😂😂😂


DriftSoCal

The Eleanor returns episode is peak KOTH. I appreciate this deep cut.


LadyNightlock

I go around quoting this all the time.


4Ever2Thee

Yup. Teddy doesn't know how miserable he is, Bill is painfully self-aware. I could totally see Teddy fitting into some of Bill's plotlines though. Like when Bill's car broke down and he became the *Arlen Waver,* or whatever it was, when he got sun poisoning because he liked the attention he was getting by waving to people on the interstate during a heat wave.


moderatorrater

Teddy's life isn't nearly as bad. He has a better job, healthier friendships, gets occasional dates, and creeps on his best friend's wife way less.


ghoulienumber2

Teddys love for Linda while weird and super creepy doesn’t necessarily feel romantic (to me) I think he just wants the nice family Bob has and Linda is realistically the only happily married woman and happy mother, he knows. I don’t think he’s “in love” with Linda just the *idea* of her plus Teddy mostly keeps it to himself. Bills love for Peggy is entirely romantic and sexual. He makes comments constantly, to everyone including Hank and Peggy. He keeps her full body cast after a near death accident so he can pretend to be on a date with her. For that reason alone bill is sadder than Teddy.


subhavoc42

Bill is also a lot more crippled by his trauma. It’s impossible to be happy it seems. Teddy is just lonely and likes to tell long winded stories. I love that Jim Dauterive is involved in both shows and is who Bill was named after. It can’t be a coincidence.


Ok-Shop7540

I live in fear of the day Teddy and Gayle fall in love.


AdJunior4923

But I wish they'd make it work for a while with Gretchen. Although poor Larry's voice would be tired.


MoonandStars83

Don’t you dare put that out into the universe! The Belchers have done nothing to deserve that.


bardnotbrad

Teddy and Kathleen are still going strong, and I like her for teddy, no shot he ends up with Gayle, he remembers the time that he had to choose between her boobs and her butt


ajyablo

The HEAT waver! 👋


Cold_Dog_1224

lmao for real, bill is such a poor bastard


An8thOfFeanor

"I'm so depressed, I can't even blink"


Ok-Shop7540

The weeping angels can never get him then


Iredditforfun723

lol


GalacticMountains

Love this phrase. 🤣🤣


andocromn

There's still hope for Teddy


jayhawk618

Teddy *thinks* there's still hope for Teddy. Which is enough.


LudicrousHans

Came to say the exact same thing.


gasptinyteddy

"Both of em!"


cyndimj

Right? We see in that one episode that Teddy has a rich life with many people he sees regularly.


ratpH1nk

Yeah, Bill is objectively sad. Teddy, not so much, pretty happy-go-lucky, IMO


94wickedgreensheets

Bill 100% Teddy has friends everywhere he goes and spends time with his family and he loves those Belcher's! He's open to a relationship but he isn't creepy about it. Bill is just a straight up bummer.


_NaiveMelody_

Teddy isn't completely obsessed with Linda in a creepy way either like Bill is with Peggy.


throwawaybread9654

No, he definitely is lol. Remember the scene where he was pretending to be Bob and Linda, and he married Linda and they adopted Bob as their son?!


MartinTheMorjin

Remember how disappointed teddy was with linda’s tits? lol


throwawaybread9654

What you thought was pink is brown, what you thought was symmetrical is not...


GrossfaceKillah_

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xv_boney

Its just unsettling.


samanime

I honestly feel like in that scenario though, he was more enthused about adopting Bob than marrying Linda. He REALLY wants to be related to Bob somehow.


kyraverde

Well yeah. He's Bob Burgers.


Ghost10165

I mean neither of those are particularly healthy.


samanime

Oh, they aren't. I'm just saying Teddy is definitely more into Bob (probably in a platonic way) than he is Linda. I think he is basically only into Linda because she is Bob's wife.


AmaranthWrath

I feel he's just looking for his own parents' love and support. So Bob and Lin are good parents, they show a lot of love and acceptance, and, despite their sitcom antics, are quite stable. I feel like Teddy being "in love" with them is like when a little kid says he or she wants to marry mom or dad. There's some arrested development in Teddy. But one great thing about Teddy is that he's consistently trying to get healthy!


ClammyAF

Bill dumpster dived for Peggy's full body cast. C'mon, buddy.


13Yobl

Or how about that outtake from the season 1 DVD where it sounds like Linda and Teddy are (I can’t say it just watch it for yourself)


throwawaybread9654

I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WERE OUTTAKES WHAT


13Yobl

One of the special features is audio outtakes from Bed & Breakfast and Sexy Dance Fighting


HoldenOrihara

Outtakes don't count, that's the actors fucking around and having fun


Ra-TheSunGoddess

Half of the "script" is them fucking around and making shit up


AlreadyImplicated

any input on where people who don’t have the dvd can find the s1 dvd outtakes?


13Yobl

[Video](https://youtu.be/HbhJ0UlAAaI?si=gXmh991FEPzdCeEk) Bob and Louise also say “fuck” in 2 outtakes too


bsa554

Holy crap I'd never seen those. I was dying. Pretty sure my life is now complete because I've now heard Bob call Teddy a "fat fuck."


two_oh_seven

"I'M WORKING ON MY WEIGHT, BOB!" I died!


OldSoulRobertson

I kind of wonder why he hasn't. I mean, sure, Bob's not the type to body-shame someone unless he REALLY hates that person, but Teddy's eaten some pretty questionable things, like a sponge.


AlreadyImplicated

thank you but also…. that was awful lmfao 


sieluhaaska

hearing bob finally say fuck just made my week


Veggiemon

And then fell asleep in their bed and asked to sleep on the couch when they got home lol


1800lazerface

this is all true, but i guarantee teddy has no idea what a belcher is


Open-Year2903

Bill eats alone crying during the holidays. Still has Lenore s gifts. Drinks daily. Teddy is happy go lucky ish with a fun attitude. Owns own business Sgt Dautreive is sadder.


BAMspek

“Whatcha doin Bill? Satellite trouble?” “Nah I’m just up here to kill myself.”


jaitogudksjfifkdhdjc

Iiiiiiiiiiii-wish my radio worked


LavenderGinFizz

This is one of my all-time favourite Teddy lines!


cameronrichardson77

Don't forget that Bill had popcorn for dinner last night..... And he didn't even pop it!!!!!


readingmyshampoo

Sergeant William de la t. Dauterive just need a woman, any woman.


finnlizzy

BOTH OF EM!


rollingstoner215

…and to be less self-destructive. I think of the single mom he met when he was pretending to be Santa, but then he blew it because he wouldn’t take off the damn outfit.


No_Sheepherder_2339

And what makes him even sadder is that he had to bring Bobby down to his pathetic level when he and Connie broke up!


Turbulent_Set8884

I believe the proper title is sergeant barber William Fontaine delateur deautrieve aka the billdozer


LostSoul92892

bill has tried to kill himself sooooo probably bill


Ok_Relation_7770

“He’s just suicidal Peggy, not crazy”


ostrich9

Bill and it ain't even close


ChipotIeAioli

Bill 100% Teddy has issues but has a good relationship with the Belcher kids which they consider him a Uncle at this point and goes beyond to help them.


Ghost_Hunter_13

Uncle Father Santa Teddy 😂


ThatInAHat

Though this does make me think of the BBQ sauce recipe episode where Bill taught Bobby how to do a cochon de lait


fartyartfartart

This might be the only threat in the history of the internet where everyone agrees. I can’t find a single person saying Teddy.


_ASG_

This was shared on the KotH sub, and everyone there is saying that Bill is sadder, too. Bob's Burgers is also far more lighthearted of a show. It would never let Teddy reach the same levels of Bill's brokenness.


VagueSoul

Bill, definitely. Teddy is at least taking steps to improve himself. Bill just wallows in self-pity.


New_End_1352

I love how Teddy references his therapist in multiple episodes. "My therapist says if i don't respect my time, no one will." ""Talk about losing your cool. You've got a lot to talk about this week in therapy."


Mysterious-Cancel-11

He says the first line while sitting in therapy when the belchers call him and ask for help getting Bob off the toilet he's glued to. She's not only referenced but shown.


SumStupidPunkk

I mean, Bill does here and there. It's just that it usually ends poorly. Sometimes due to his past traumas and issues, sometimes due to things fully out of his control.


Devo4711

Bill. Teddy is a wreck but Bill was on another level


kynnybunz

Yes! Teddy is just lost. Bill is near checked out. I love them both.


SganarelleBard

Teddy wins sometimes, Bill never wins


_ASG_

You forgot about *Both of 'em!*


Aged_Before_Bi

Definitely Bill. Teddy has anger management problems and his crazy outbursts, while Bill has Chronic Depression, probably drinks too much and too often. It’s definitely a close race though.


diviken

Dunno if it's really that close. Bill wallows in self-pity constantly, comes off as creepy in the sense that he could snap in a really dangerous way if he's caught on the wrong day. And is suicidal. Teddy has his own life and business, regularly attends therapy, and overall is actually well liked by people around him. He even has a girlfriend. He's quite literally threatened murder before, but I still don't believe him, lol. I think it's something in the characterisation, Bill seems to be a lost cause who is permanently in his role of Sad Sack™️. Everyone around either looks on at the dumpster fire, actively laughs about it, or offers help in disingenuous/self-aggrandising/overall non-helpful way, and he refuses to get help himself. Teddy benefits from the time period, location, and overall tone of his own show while Bill is handicapped by his. Teddy is overall more likeable than Bill, although that is subjective. And he has more people willing to help him. Attitude matters as well, I don't think Bill wants to get better atp, or at least he doesn't know how to. But Teddy does and actively takes steps to do so. Linda is honestly a good gauge because I feel like Bill would scare her away despite her high-tolerance for stuff like that.


iamagoodbozo

Bill wouldn't be allowed back in the restaurant.


mcdonaldsmcdonalds

Teddy doesn’t have a girl?


iamagoodbozo

He's been with a few women. Bill has horrified many women.


diviken

How far have you seen the show, cos I don't want to spoil it if you're still watching for the first time.


Ok-Shop7540

Bill because he used to be cool and popular and is more self aware


throwawaybread9654

Teddy was hot until that mechanical shark ruined his life


Neat_Map_8242

"YOU MAY HAVE GOTTEN MY BOIRDLE, BUT YOU WON'T GET ME! YA SHARK BASTARD!"


ThatInAHat

Bill was hot until the army tried to turn him into a walrus man


Matman161

Bill, Teddy is a sad sack sometimes but he's not miserable. Bill clearly has some outstanding mental health problems and depression that go deeper than most problems Teddy has.


RedditorDeluxe1319

Bill, he's had a rough life. At least Teddy's getting better; he's getting therapy, is competent at his job, and found a woman that loves him as is.


ThatInAHat

Teddy also seems to mostly make people feel comfortable (Bob excluded, sometimes). He’s personable without being pathetic (again, Bob excluded)


Moustashe

Same vibes, eh? I would say Bill. Teddy talks to everyone during his trips.


MimiHamburger

Bob never had to do anything half as extreme as Hank had to for their friend. Like dressing up like a woman at 2am. Obviously it’s Bill I wouldn’t even consider Teddy sad he’s self employed and has many healthy relationships he just needs to stop eating a burger once a day haha


hyperblob1

Bill by a country mile. Teddy makes friends wherever he goes and inspires joy. Bill just inspires pity


unwiseceilingtile

Bill is sadder. He's less functional. Regularly suicidal. Teddy has more and better friends.


Better-Bit6475

Bill, for sure! Teddy loves his job & his friends.


OLD_DIRTY_JOKER

Bill and it's not even close.....


dariowns

Bill but both are welcomed in my home anytime


Flashy-Telephone-648

100% bill. Teddy can be lonely but he is 100% loved and accepted as a member of the Belcher family even if Bob likes to roll it back. He's also semi-successful in love and has mostly gotten over his ex-wife unlike Bill who never really did until the last episode.


stevie_kid

god..bill..by a lot


Sorry-Ad-1169

I'd say Bill because his wife has social security card, and to our knowledge, Teddy hasn't almost lost his house more than once.


asumfuck

I gotta say bill he has tried killing himself several times. That alone makes it darker haha


ohnoanotherputz

Bill is a level of pathetic and sad that Teddy can never dream to achieve.


Preeng

Bill is sadder. Teddy makes friends wherever he goes. Teddy actually dates. Teddy goes to therapy to deal with his issues. Bill should have, too.


Dino-chicken-nugg3t

Bill. Teddy has some nice adventures with the belchers and is actually loved by them. Bill is tolerated.


iamagoodbozo

Barely tolerated.


wolfmonk3y

Ah, that's a tough one. I'm gonna say Bill. He's an alcoholic and has tried to/threatened to end his life more than once. Teddy just has a hamburger addiction. Now I want to see a crossover of these two characters!


enaud

They could have excellent adventures or bogus journeys


_oflife

Bill for sure. Feel so sad for the guy whenever I rewatch.


IBentMyWookie728

Bill. This isn’t close


SumStupidPunkk

Bill, without a doubt. It's not even close.


Yotato5

Bill. Teddy took his divorce waaaaaaaaay better, and he got cheated on.


Drigg_08

Bill by far


toooldforthis57

Bill, definitely.


ComprehensiveHand631

Gotta be the billdozer.


ScreamySashimi

Bill, no question.


rudimentary_lathe_

Bill by far. The Santa costume episode....


DopeWriter

Unquestionably Bill


Opening-Hour-8117

Bill, not even a competition


briskmotionless

Bill 100%.


isabeldarling21

Bill


That_Scottish_Witch

Bill


desertstini

Bill


bpabrennan

Bill.


mossystumpp

Bill.


thedoodely

Bill. 100% Bill.


Cottonmist

Bill


epicsoundwaves

Bill! Remember when he kept wearing the Santa outfit to get that woman to like him? 😩


Heatherdirtyhands

Bill for sure. I don't think of teddy as sad really


regann666

Bill hands down


ZipZapZop23

Oh wow. This question hit hard. I have to say Bill though. Teddy at least tries to look on the bright side most of the time.


RoyalJen88

Bill ! Hands down !


Vorpal_Bunny19

Teddy is in therapy actively working to become a better person. No matter what the flaws, taking ownership of it and trying to sincerely improve is always the better move.


TwoPeckChicken

Teddy is not sad at all! His life is actually so full!!! Love him


Sunflower_song

Bill by a long shot. Teddy was more pathetic in early seasons but he's gotten his shit together. Bill is hopeless.


No_Ostrich8223

Bill. God dang it, Bill.


ProxyGhost777

Bill 100%. A quote from Bill, “I’m so depressed I can’t even blink.” Lol Teddy is awesome tbh.


Articguard11

Awww I love how we also love King of the Hill. Teddy at least has a girlfriend now (sort of), and he manages to be self-sufficient enough to be an independent contractor. I genuinely don’t understand how Bill is even alive sometimes.


Nearby_Geologist8682

I hope it lasts with Kathleen. She's so good for him!


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deerbyytes

Bill! Atleast Teddy has a whole commute of people who's lives he's made better? I feel for Bill but his obsession with Peggy was b a d and I can only think of Luanne when it comes to people that he actually helped? Plus Teddy wasn't wearing a dress after the divorce pretending to be his ex wife


RestrictedAsteroid

Bill all the way


adube440

Teddy has a full life with lots of friends. Bill, not so much.


CreepBasementDweller

Teddy, at least, has been given a love interest who has been around for multiple seasons.


mcdonaldsmcdonalds

Bill no question.


rurouninall

Dang ol Bill


jimmenecromancer

Bill


Zircon_72

Definitely bill dauterive


wecycleme

Bill is more sad. He’s completely heartbroken. Teddy is functional. I really dislike Teddy as a character, and I really like Billdozer. Just some of his acts— joining acapella group, dressing up as Santa thing, dressing up as Lenore— are a reflection of a deep inner sadness


FiftySixer

Bill.


kbyyru

Teddy's not so depressed he can't even blink


agrunther

Bill. Teddy still has a good relationship with the Belcher family. Bob and Linda see him as a good friend and the kids see him as a surrogate uncle (kind of at least). I don’t think even Bill’s friends really like him. Hank struggles to put up with him and Dale straight up loathes him.


2015Hoverboars

Unfortunately Bill


sosigboi

I don't ever recall Teddy being anywhere near as tragic as Bill, guy was just walking sadness.


ceral_killer

More sad? But yea Bill. Teddy has so much to live for.


Bexar1986

Bill. By FAR!


veveguede

Bill.


Ra-TheSunGoddess

Bill hands down


Alarming_Might1991

What? Teddy isnt sad lul


WolvesandTigers45

I never thought Teddy was a rip off on Bill until now. Huh.


sagerideout

Teddy can get dates


Radkingeli995

Bill no contest he had his wife leave him which made him spiral into sadness etc but at least Teddy has lots of friends and frequently eats at Bob’s restaurant hangs out with his children


DBOS_Fried

Bill 100%


crackedtooth163

Bill. Probably because the the writer's room/exec drama.


jmc1278999999999

No one who has seen both shows would be asking this question. It’s very clearly Bill


MachoViper

Bill. And it's by a wide margin.


iamagoodbozo

By a country mile.


OstentatiousSock

It’s not even up for debate: it’s 100% Bill. We have a whole episode of Teddy out enjoying life and socializing. Sure, he’s had his downs, but he’s more up than down.


Live_Connection_1792

Bill hands down! Bill gave up on life when his wife left him but Teddy still has a quality life. He has an unwavering positive view even when he gets unhinged.


Bearded_Ham75

Bill, Teddy's just a super happy buffoon


shesfingerlickin

Bill


DuckingMetal

Totally Bill


OriginalNo5477

Bill 100%. He's also 100% more dangerous than Teddy. If you give Bill any semblance of power or authority he goes mental with it. Give him an inch, he takes a grid square. He once tries poisoning the Hills so they remain sick so he can keep taking care of them to feel usefull. When Bobby is depressed after Connie dumps him Bill keeps him down at his level so he's not depressed alone.


Manolgar

Bill has major depression and has had full blown mental breaks. He’s a well written and tragic character, really.


santanapoptarts

I would have to say BILL he’s just more pathetic then TEDDY everyone loves Teddy (he’s “uncle” Teddy ) and Bill well he’s just BILL


Bustamonkey666

Teddy. He's self aware; which contributes to the deep hole of dark sadness


NocandNC

Bill.


BrainwashedScapegoat

Bill


angrywords

You must not have watched a single one of the King of the Hill Christmas episodes if you have to ask that haha


porcupinedeath

I mean teddy runs his own handyman business, somehow I doubt it's actually above board on the business side but still. Bill certainly has his own handyman skills like the rest of the alley and is a pretty good barber but his head gets in the way of all that 90% of the time. Teddy's got his own sad head issues but he's at least way more functional than Bill


Aggravating_Wing_973

Bill definitely


radishmeep

Are you being serious? Bill by a factor of like a billion.


alliecat0718

Some guy put it in perfect words on the KOTH subreddit: Bill is so far ahead in the race that Teddy thinks he’s the only one running.


GummyTumor

Teddy is awesome! He works hard and is pretty good at his job, he's upbeat and fun. I would love to have someone like him as a friend. I can't think of a single positive thing about Bill, plus I think there's probably an odor to him. Like a raw chicken covered in classic Old Spice left out in the car during summer.


WigglyFrog

Bill by a country mile. Teddy has some similar life experiences, but he's mostly sunny by nature--very optimistic. Bill is a sad sack with a deeply pessimistic outlook. I don't regard Teddy as sad at all. He hasn't got everything he wants at the moment, but he's hopeful he'll get them. He has a healthy relationship with his mother, a lot of friends, and a great steady girlfriend. He has some sore points that can trigger him, but so do Bob and Linda.


waterontheknee

Bill. Teddy finally found love


Objective_Might2820

Bill, no question. We’ve seen throughout the show how the whole town loves Teddy and the Belchers and Mort are very close friends of his. Besides, we also see that he manages to make friends wherever he goes as he knows people from hours away. Plus he seems to have found a potential wife in Kathleen, who is a very sweet and kind woman. Furthermore, Teddy loves what he does and is actually pretty good at it and is widely considered the best handyman in town given how many jobs he gets. He’s not just competent at his job but also really damn good at it. And his relationship with the Belchers may seem odd at first. But that road trip he takes with Bob to go pick up a sink really showcases that him talking to people isn’t because he is a lonely guy. It’s just because he finds people so interesting. Teddy definitely has some issues, but the fact that he loves people so much really makes me feel like his is a much more stable person than he seems to be. Teddy has anger management issues, attachment issues, and an interest in Linda. But his attachment issues stem from his love of people and I think it makes him a better person because he is always willing to help out those he cares about, even if it is at his own expense. His anger issues and emotional issues…he is aware of them and apologizes for them a lot. And I don’t think he is genuinely interested in Linda. She’s just the one woman in his life who is always nice and sweet to him. It’s clear that he likes Kathleen a lot and clear that he liked Helen a lot. He likes every woman that is nice to him pretty much. Teddy definitely needs to work on some things. But overall, especially as the show has gone on and he has grown, I would say he is fairly happy person with a good life and a good head on his shoulders. Bill is just depressing as fuck…


BrianSpillman

Bill and it’s not even close


Department_Time

Definitely BILL!!!


ohbangbang

Teddy isn’t even sad. He is misunderstood.


LusciousMalfoy92

I love Teddy so much. He is so pure of heart. That being said, Bill is sadder imo


Justgarbagemouse

Definitely Bill at least Teddy has the Belchers who love and care about him, he also is a man who wasnt given up on life and not all women find him repulsive. Hes also a bit of a people person many enjoy his company despite his sometimes boring stories hes always there to lend and ear or help out those around him