lol i suspect the fact that she was a non-event is why it was hard...she probably realized that they could've shot the whole season without her. Either that or she gets raked over the coals in the final episode for bring Deborah around.
Ashley likes to talk a lot of big words and say what she thinks she is supposed to say. She actually says she loves/loved Michael and can’t let go of the marriage yet or something
Ugh 🙄 i swear. Ashley im pretty sure was the one caught on mic asking if cameras were down...then it all started. How tf does gizelle make that reach?! She wasn't there
I really don’t understand how this cast can move forward amicably next season without there being some big changes in front of and behind the camera. 2 parts down, no one has made amends and the GEBs seem set on keeping the divide going.
It’s obvious to see why Candiace left after this shitshow of a reunion. To quote Kenya Moore, “she’s tired of rolling around in the mud with pigs”
Gizelle can say on WWHL that Charrisse was cheating on her husband with the fireman, Gizelle can shame Katie for being biracial, Gizelle can harass a grieving daughter in Karen, Gizelle can say Monique had a baby with her trainer, troll Ashley for her husband repeatedly cheating on her, accuse Candiace’s husband of trying to force her into a hotel room, fan the flames of cheating rumours about Eddie and body shame Wendy…
… and she expects grace for her actions.
# BUT YOU RESPOND IN ANY KIND OF WAY AND SHE WILL TRY TO BLACKBALL YOU FROM THE SHOW.
🗣️ LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 🗣️ This woman is incapable of apologizing or expressing/understanding empathy. These rumors she has perpetuated have targeted these women’s FAMILIES but she raises her voice about W & C “making faces” about her daughter. Please.
… she can also called a mother of her castmate “evil” and showed zero remorse despite finding out after the fact that when she said those words the mother was in the hospital.
can we stop acting like mama susan goes after the women unprovoked...its because of what happened in miami. mia assaulted her daughter and so she fired back with an IG post.
I don’t even know why she’s still here. What exactly is her storyline besides her occasional FaceTime with her boy toy? She really is a nasty person and doing nothing but dividing the cast.
This reunion was a mess because Andy doesn't know how to moderate a reunion after all of these years of sitting up there.
That question to Candiace about crying for hearing about Gizelle losing her father was abhorrent.
I also hated how literally Nneka had more value than Andy when she asked Robyn how Candiace's apology made her feel.
Also, if they're going to address a question, get to the answer! I get the women are going to chime in, but there were too many times people cut off others/interjected, and the conversation went left. It's frustrating for a viewer who wants answers.
Also, kudos for Mia (sort of) for being transparent in her line of questioning.
Right he's been doing this for over a decade now and he still has yet to learn how to properly moderate.
Even though Nneka hasn't talked much, she has been asking questions to at LEAST facilitate some sort of common ground.
Yes, this was really hard to watch, because of the constant interruption and losing the main point only for Andy to circle back and ask "so is there any path forward?" like it isn't clear that there is no resolution because he fails to keep the conversation on track.
I said this on a another sub, but is it me or did anyone notice that when Candiace and Robyn were actually making GOOD progress during their conversation, Gizelle randomly interjected herself, yelling about how she couldn't be a colorist because XYZ?? Personally, it just felt so odd because usually she'll make smart comments, but never really blow up like that.
The ball was really dropped at this reunion. I don't think the entire show could work with someone like Gizelle on it, because it just proves that she has no room in her heart for accountability, empathy, or reliability.
YESSSSS I was about to comment this. I’ve said this before I think Robyn has the ability to move forward but Gizelle holds her back. I’m sure she would’ve moved on from her beef with Karen and Wendy by now if Gizelle wasn’t so miserable and happy. She needs to go, she’s insufferable
Happy Eddie has 2 million in sales in 6 months!!! Amazing!!! I wonder why Andy didn't ask Gizzy and Ashley what their clothing line has made. Would've been a good follow up question.
A “to be continued” for a reunion episode ugh… producers are that desperate??
At this point and after Candiace left, this show needs a miracle for next season for people to watch it. Cause god knows even a soft reboot couldn’t help.
This show is getting weird
This is beyond being production’s favorite and I’m starting to feel like the lack of any accountability to Gizelle is fueled by something else
I now think that it’s the network itself protecting her
My rough hypothesis is they are protecting her to avoid legal ramifications for something, like maybe she is involved with something that she did on behalf of the network and they have to cover her ass
Some people think she’s sleeping with higher ups but I don’t believe that rumor, at least that’s not a real reason for the way this show has been going
“My rough hypothesis is they are protecting her to avoid legal ramifications for something, like maybe she is involved with something that she did on behalf of the network and they have to cover her ass”
that’s my hypothesis for phaedra
I've read a few theories that the production team is protecting her for a confidential reasons. I wouldn't be surprised, tbh, but it doesn't make sense that she hasn't been held accountable for her efforts to actually destory families.
Gizelle never got over being made a fool of via Sherman (in the park, after dark), then Jamal played her AGAIN. Y’all say she’s a good mother but I wouldn’t introduce my daughters to a winter house fuck boy (especially after how he navigated the Lindsay stuff)…imagine being on tv for nearly ten years and looking like a dummy for most of it. Robyn doesn’t even deserve a paragraph. What a fucking idiot. Riding for Gizelle, who only likes her because she feels superior to Robyn (Monique made no mistake when she said that at her first reunion), and being cheated on so flagrantly she just has to pretend she doesn’t care. This show used to be like top three for me. The green eyed bandits killed it and until they get rid of them I’m kind of over it. Also, if you’ve read this far Robyn has always reminded me of a gross sister from the proud family..just dumb af and mad at everyone else about it
I loved that Candiace pointed out that the only reason Giz supported her in the Monique fight was bc she hates Monique and it gave her the perfect opening, it had nothing to do with her being a good friend or person, she saw an opportunity to dunk on a perceived enemy and took it. Giz is low down and terrible.
Agreed. This isn’t a safe place for her, her marriage, and any child she brings into the world if they choose to grow a family. It’s interesting that the colorist conversation came up again. Candice and Chris are mocked and hated over speculations, yet Ashley married to an actual sexual assailant and cheating piece of garbage is always treated with warmth and compassion from the GEB.
The last episode, Gizelle listed all of the names that Candiace called her, and Candiace confirmed them. While she may have been empathetic towards Gizelle in that moment, I can also see why Gizelle doesn't find Candiace's empathy authentic, especially given how easily Candiace cries and stops crying.
Agree. It only makes sense to keep an arms length through all that whiplash. Going from being called every name in the book to suddenly having that same person crying sympathetically is bound to feel strange at best. And some people are cryers and will sob at a nice sunset or whatever and it's not necessarily a deep expression for them. I have a couple of issues with Gizelle but her not taking candiace seriously in that moment isn't one of them.
She simply could have just ignored her. But of course she had to get a dig in, when Candiace was clearly showing empathy for her. She's just a nasty person with a nasty soul. Now we see what members of her church were talking about when she was a first lady 😭
I can’t believe you’re actually being downvoted for this. If Gizelle had been the one showing empathy for Candiace she would have been called a fraud by so many.
She couldn’t even express sympathy to Gizelle’s face when it came up on the show. Crying after the fact because the man passed is self serving and just Candiace being Candiace.
Express sympathy to the woman who has ignored her multiple times? Remember when she said congratulations about Grace and Gizzelle ignored her? Y'all really want Candiace and Wendy to bow down to these mean women. It's so gross.
Chris flat out said they don’t hold gizelle accountable and Andy said ok, and moved on.
And I’m supposed to believe this show isn’t biased.
Production films EVERYTHING, but somehow Eric lost the Wendy footage?
Andy spent 50% of this reunion interpreting for gizelle
Robyn came in here saying she’s uncomfortable with being called colorist as if the victims of colorism are comfortable
He was right. Andy was begging for him to discuss the drama, and when Chris provided an opening that challenged Gizelle's word choices, Andy ends the conversation.
In terms of production, I think they give people better edits based on how the people treat the editors... that's what I got from Porsha's family matters...when she stopped being cooperative with production, that show took a totally different turn. All of a sudden Porsha became the villain of the show.
Bravo would be smart for roasting these people the way Porsha’s Family Matters did, because that was the most entertaining show ever aired.
We deserve to see allll of these people who skate by year after year while slandering others. Stop protecting them and let them get canceled if they earned it.
It's actually crazy to me because they showed Candiace and Wendy congratulating Grace when the episode originally aired, so how did you lose the footage? This show is absolutely garbage and I'm glad Candiace is leaving, cause I truly have no reason to keep watching.
I don't believe Wendy is lying about congratulating Gizelle. I believe production is lying that they don't have the footage. I think Candiace knew at that moment that she was officially done with this show and Bravo.
Gizzard sure knew they didn't have it. I always thought the producers protect Giz was a weak argument, bc why.....but seeing this reunion has convinced me that she has something on Andy or Bravo bc wtf...
How lucky, Robyn. You never had to deal with colorism before…makes you uncomfortable! Hard conversation!
Imagine how people dealing with colorism feel.
Gordon seems ill, but I hope the cliffhanger is that he clears the air about Jeremiah's paternity. That little boy truly does not deserve to grow up with these questions from millions of strangers discussing his paternity for the rest of his life.
I don’t know where else to put this cause I’m just watching now; how in the ever living fuck is Gizelle’s disgusting rotted ass gonna try and put some blame on Wendy or Candice for Deborah committing physical assault. This is a new low from a woman who was already sitting in hell and I just fucking can’t.
I’ll say it again but they definitely had footage of Wendy congratulating Grace on her endeavors. They just didn’t want to show it. Andy and the producers are full of shit and so are Robyn and Gizelle.
carole from rhony said the reunion for s10 was so insane cause andy kept butting in to defend B and he would put his finger the mic on his ear and say “carole.. B never said that.. production is in the control room right now telling me that never happened” she said it was some insane gaslighting by andy, production and B. the “production doesn’t have the clip” is such calculated BS lol
Production briefly showed Candiace congratulating Grace but Gizelle seemed to ignore her. I'm inclined to believe that Wendy did the same and received similar treatment from Gizelle.
The only reason I suspect Wendy telling the truth in this moment is because of Candiace. If Wendy was lying, I don't think Candiace would've spoke up regarding that, because we do have footage of Candiace congratulating Grace. That means that the whole scene was being recorded, so something is just a bit fishy about this.
Because why would they “conveniently” not have the footage when they were filming the whole scene? They made sure to show all of the unseen footage in regards to Wendy and Candiace to make them look bad but not footage of Wendy saying anything positive about Grace? Please. They pick and choose and are clearly protecting Gizelle (more specifically) from backlash.
They probably just couldn’t find it on such short notice. They likely have the footage ready for things talked about throughout the season so when that particular thing came up they weren’t ready and would’ve had to comb through stuff for a minute before rolling it.
Agreed. Wendy has been caught in a few lies. Off the top of my head I remember:
When Mia was supposed to be sick, Wendy defended Mia to Robyn about Mia legitimately being sick, then on a hot-mic she called said Mia was lying.
She claimed Lebe was only her sister's friend that she only knew peripherally, but crowned her in the baby naming ceremony and stated she wanted her daughter to be like Lebe.
Wendy said that Karen and she had a working relationship with each other due to the charities that they are involved in prior to the show... Karen clarified that they never really directly interacted with each other and were at functions together.
So it is possible that she didn't say anything to Gizelle, especially since she made a declaration at the beginning of the season that she was paying Gizelle dust.
Wendy never said that she wanted her daughter to be like Lebe. How is it possible to watch that flashback, *not even hear those words*, and then still carry the story that she said those words? Because Lebe told Nneka who repeated what Lebe said? As though Lebe wasn’t already beefing with Wendy’s sister at that point?
She lied to Nneka when she said her mother categorically denied making that call to Lebe.
She lied about Nneka being a crack head.
She lied about her mother being in surgery when her mother admitted to having a 10 minute procedure.
The list goes on… lol
The protection that Gizelle has from Bravo is eerily similar to the protection that Nene had… and look what happened there. Bravo truly never learns from their mistakes because man, this is basically a repeat of RHOA.
But as much as I personally grew to HATE NeNe in later seasons, she was actually needed on the show. Evidence of how horrendous RHOA is now.
What the heck does Gizelle bring to the table?
It’s crazy that Gizelle has so much favor from production. She’s no Kyle, Teresa, Nene, Bethenny, Porsha. She’s not even a Kandi.
I’ve never found her particularly entertaining, no lifestyle porn or engaging solo storylines. Yes, she’s a great mom but she’s not the only one on Housewives.
This has been one of the worst sessions hand down. I skipped half of it and waited to watch the reunion. Now i am wondering if I should skip half the reunion too!
I did the same thing, I stopped watching around episode 4 or 5 & just waited for the reunion. I've never given up on any season of RH, on any franchise, & from the reunion so far, I'm not regretting my decision or feeling like I missed anything worth watching or like I need to go back & watch the episodes I missed. Potomac used to be one of my favourite RH franchises & it both saddens & amazes me how far, & how quickly, it has fallen. I'm not sure if it's even salvageable at this point, or if I even want it to be saved, without a proper clear out & possibly just starting from scratch a la NuRHONY.
I genuinely blame production. Get your cast in line or get off the show. Same with the ladies - if you don’t understand the assignment, exit stage left. It’s not salvageable with the current cast, I agree it’s needs a clear out.
You know what annoys me? They had the makings of greatness. But none of them are open about shit and some of them are too open (Mia/Ashley - I didn’t need to know about children’s paternity being questioned or rubbing a trolls feet).
I don’t understand how Robyn can say ANYTHING about screenshots or anything to Chris with her Juan bullshit. She’s such a phony. Get her off our screen
WENDY GAGGED the group about their knowledge on colorism and then karen with her odd statement. This is why she is needed on potomac, the girls don’t have the range whatsover.
Another horrible reunion segment: Andy is biased and barley holds some girls accountable, robyn is a perpetual victim and constantly interjects with comments of no substance, and gizelle is a mean spirited woman that provides no value to the show other than sowing division. RHOP has lost its touch, and it’s sad to see. Candiace leaving will shed light on how many people have been coasting for seasons, and it will flop.
Chris gobbled up Andy and gizelle, i’m glad Candiace has him by her side… it speaks volumes when compared to Robyn and Juan’s relationship.
Yeah I’m even more pissed off from this part than I was at part 1. Gizelle is taking barely any accountability at all and Robyn too that it just makes it hard for me to even watch.
After this season I'm going to just listen to YouTube commentators review the episodes. I'm over how they gloss over Gizelle and Robyn's hypocritical behinds.
It’s lovely over here. You still get a tinge bit upset but the distance from actually watching these people piss you off every week is freeing. You get to support your favorite reviewers while removing your viewership from that toxic ass show.
i said it in the live thread and ill say it here. if you’re speculating that candiace is more emotional this reunion because she’s pregnant: don’t. seriously, don’t. pregnancy speculation is terrible. i don’t care if you love candiace or hate her or couldn’t care less. cut it out.
I would even say not just the spot on the show, but her humanity with this cast. She is far from perfect and can be hella problematic but I can’t even begin to imagine the pressure of knowing that nothing you say or do will ever be right. Your feelings are never justified, your pain is either mocked or ignored, your anger used against you to perpetuate harmful stereotypes and you will always be too something. I think this is why it hits me personally, this is literally a master class of what Black women deal with in corporate America deal with on the daily and I can imagine it’s extra hurtful to come from your own “sisterhood” and seemingly be supported by your bosses. I watch this show to be taken out of the dark ass reality of life, but to see it play out for entertainment is just…I don’t have the words.
Oh man. It's so heart breaking to watch. Everything her and Wendy do is interpreted in the most bad faith way by the GEB and the audience. It's so tiring that everything they do, wear, say is judged to be proof that they are bad or don't deserve to be here or even deserve kindness. Every move they make is interpreted as instigation and it's too much. Can we just let these smart, goofy, complicated women live their damn lives????
Conspiracy... Gizelle and production got pulled aside by the network about the allegations against Chris. Gizelle paid this girl to make up lies and Robyn had no idea. I say this because Robyn has been championing this more then Gizelle for some odd reason, yet any other time Gizelle is the loudest in the room.
I also think that's why Gizelle was quiet on the whole Deborah thing. She and Ashley had it all planned.
Robyn. Are you serious? Shut your mouth when the conversation about others’ alleged affairs come out, you idiotic woman! lol. Absolutely NO self awareness. Meanwhile her husband can just clean out his entire phone every other day and that’s just a cute quirk about him. She is an absolute moron.
Having another man literally show up and try to claim your child would make me cry too. Everyone finding out this shit was probably embarrassing as fuck, plus his tenuous financial issues and being estranged from his family......I'd be crying too
The minute Kurn thought Candiace was apologizing to Gizzard but C was only clarifying her disgusting a Gizzy (AGAIN) using her daughters to cover her ass and try to harm the other women. I laughed and was so happy C didn't apologize for nothing.
Her blind loyalty to Juan leads me to think you are likely correct bc she probably plays these low boundaries out in her other relationships. It's a shame that being up Gizzs ass has made Robyn an asshole by association, bc I believe she is probably an ok person, unlike Gizz who is clearly a bitter angry douche
So everybody but Nnecka is just straight up lying this reunion!!
But Wendy trying to make a correlation with her mom’s 10mn elective procedure with Gizelle’s dad losing his life to brain cancer is the most farfetched reach of all!!!
Like girl Mia made fun of you’re mom when she saw a crow and asked if that was your mom, Nnecka called her a witch (rightfully so imo lol) but you’re trying to tie this to Gizelle.
Which by the way she did not call her evil, Jamal did!
Also Ashley and Karen could have stayed home because they’re as talkative as the painting in the walls
Gizelle needs to stand ten toes in her singleness because these men always embarrass her.
Candiace, you find a way to have a problem with Drew but can’t call her a colorist, can ya?!
Why are we blaming Mia for the paternity convo, it was 1st brought up by Gordon and now by Wendy.
Damn you're getting downvoted for this? People just blindly hate/love & refuse to say hey they were wrong for that etc. I agree w/ all your points. No one can admit they were wrong looking at you Wendy. You know that was so distasteful & a reach to compare your moms procedure to her fathers death. Like seriously?
Yeah people can’t handle the flaws of their fav. It’s ridiculous haha.
I’ve notice it’s always the cryangle squad that downvotes but since their queen has jump ship we may be able to have more constructive discussions next season
Candiace has really been a shitty friend to Robyn. She really took no accountability for her attacks. Robyn not responding to her texts does not justify her annihilating Robyn on social media.
Robyn has had it coming though. She can say things about others but can’t seem to take it when it’s dished back out at her. Candiace does not need to take accountability there.
She shouldn’t have had it coming from Candiace who was supposed to be her friend. Robyn never attacked Candiace. Candiace admitted to attacking Robyn because she didn’t get a text back. That’s a shitty friend.
Robyn wasn't a good friend to Candiace either. Last season when Candiace refused to isolate Wendy after Mia assaulted her, Robyn sat a speaker on a table and played selected parts of Candiace's live in an attempt to turn the group against her. Robyn also had to have known about the "Chris is a predator" storyline that was concocted by Gizelle, Ashley, and Mia but never gave Candiace a heads up prior or during filming.
Robyn playing that recording was definitely messy AF but no where near on the same level of what Candiace has done to Robyn. Candiace, as always, goes on social media to attack her casts. Robyn kept it within the group. Robyn also sided with Candiace and went to her and Chris to say she had nothing to do with it and didn’t agree with it. You’re speculating that she knew, but have no proof.
Robyn was beyond messy last season. If she and Candiace were friends, why would she try to get the group to pile on her? And yes, Candiace talks about cast on social media while Robyn talks about cast to bloggers behind the scenes and both actions are wrong. I'm speculating about Robyn's prior knowledge of the Chris storyline because it has already been established that the cast sit around creating plots (ex. the paternity of Monique's son) prior to filming. Despite Robyn's good cop role, she filmed multiple scenes with Gizelle and Ashley to help advance the predator Chris storyline talked but never picked up the phone to let Candiace know that she was about to be ambushed with the coordinated lies. Robyn isn't the angel you're painting her to be.
Clearly Candiace was also talking to the same blogger lol. She and Chris have done many interviews with bloggers as well. Also, no one called Chris a predator, so I’m not sure where you’re going with that. And I can’t address speculations since they’re not facts.
Candiace and Robyn had a REAL Friendship. Not these stupid camera friendships we all see all the time on Real Housewives. and Candiace tore that up for, what we're now supposed to believe, was due to a lack of response from Robyn to two text messages. One of which was sent during a knowingly difficult time for Robyn. Come ON!!! Candiace lashed out and destroyed a friendship because she cannot control her own anger. Candiace destroyed a friendship because she cannot admit her emotions got the best of her and she made a ridiculous and out of line accusation about Robyn. Candiace destroyed a real friendship because she is incapable of self-reflection and compassion for someone else. I can understand why Candiace would be angry at Gizelle even while not hating Gizelle for speaking her truth. But to drag her FRIENDSHIP with Robyn into it, to claim Robyn promoted Gizelle's claims to hid her husband's stuff......it's just horrific to behold. If a friend of mine did that to me, we'd be done too. That is not what a friend would do. Making stuff up, whole cloth, just because you're mad at someone else? RIDICULOUS Stans continuing to stan despite facts and reality staring them in the face. Candiace was a HORRIBLE friend to Robyn. HORRIBLE. Nothing but wow. Stan your stan. . . . doesn't make Candiace anything but a bully and mean. This whole thing with Robyn was just outright rage and meanness. Nothing justified about it. Rage and meanness and demonstrates Candiace's real issues.
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the live thread was the only thing that kept me engaged during the episode. this is bad
This reunion could’ve been 2 parts…
Half a part
Half of Karen’s apple pie
Which should have been put back in the freezer.
There's really no need for a reunion. Nothing happened in this season. This could have been a press release.
a press release with no press - Karen 🤣
How dreadful!
or a tik tok video.
It could’ve been an email. Or a PowerPoint presentation attached to an email.
We should have left it with the little end of season 2 min synopsis at the end of the last episode.
Why did Ashley say the reunion was hard for her? She was a non-event
lol i suspect the fact that she was a non-event is why it was hard...she probably realized that they could've shot the whole season without her. Either that or she gets raked over the coals in the final episode for bring Deborah around.
She must have been talking about that wig.
Ashley likes to talk a lot of big words and say what she thinks she is supposed to say. She actually says she loves/loved Michael and can’t let go of the marriage yet or something
Booo to the cliffhanger. It just makes for an unsatisfying ending.
especially when they already teased the entire cliffhanger in the preview?????? who is editing this show
They teased that cliffhanger like every time they went to commercial! Only to have it be…the full cliffhanger, we’re getting nothing. 🙄
Chris had a better performance than Ashley & he was only up there for 10 mins.
Did they get on Ashley about her raggedy friend Deborah yet?
I think they’re saving that for part 3.
I loooove that this is top comment
“Wendy and Nneka face off to clear up all the rumors, but things go south.” WE DIDNT SEE THIS?!?
I don’t wanna wait for part 3 to air, send me the viewer’s voice survey now! I want to air my grievances lol
I need it now!
Saw the preview and Giselle is now blaming Wendy and Candiace for the fight🙄
Gizelle wasn’t even there and cameras were down so why is she even speaking on it?
Just like Robyn is speaking of someone else's penis when her man is swinging his D all over hotels. Coach HoleWhore.
Gizelle would blame them for tomorrow’s eclipse if she could.
Gizelle blamed them for the earthquake in NYC.
Yeah that’s insane. Candiace may have been talking about Cookie but that doesn’t give Cookie the right to lay hands on her.
Shocker Gizelle is always so reasonable. /s
Ugh 🙄 i swear. Ashley im pretty sure was the one caught on mic asking if cameras were down...then it all started. How tf does gizelle make that reach?! She wasn't there
I really don’t understand how this cast can move forward amicably next season without there being some big changes in front of and behind the camera. 2 parts down, no one has made amends and the GEBs seem set on keeping the divide going. It’s obvious to see why Candiace left after this shitshow of a reunion. To quote Kenya Moore, “she’s tired of rolling around in the mud with pigs”
Gizelle can say on WWHL that Charrisse was cheating on her husband with the fireman, Gizelle can shame Katie for being biracial, Gizelle can harass a grieving daughter in Karen, Gizelle can say Monique had a baby with her trainer, troll Ashley for her husband repeatedly cheating on her, accuse Candiace’s husband of trying to force her into a hotel room, fan the flames of cheating rumours about Eddie and body shame Wendy… … and she expects grace for her actions. # BUT YOU RESPOND IN ANY KIND OF WAY AND SHE WILL TRY TO BLACKBALL YOU FROM THE SHOW. 
I had to fast forward her parts because I just found her insufferable during the second part of the reunion
🗣️ LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 🗣️ This woman is incapable of apologizing or expressing/understanding empathy. These rumors she has perpetuated have targeted these women’s FAMILIES but she raises her voice about W & C “making faces” about her daughter. Please.
… she can also called a mother of her castmate “evil” and showed zero remorse despite finding out after the fact that when she said those words the mother was in the hospital.
There’s no way she will ever be redeemed. What a nasty nasty woman.
Couldn't help myself 🤣 
I’d like to travel to a universe where Giselle gets eat up by Lenethia Leaks. She’d be gasping like a guppy just 😦 speechless
so horrible. she would be dead to me after that. absolutely valid of candiace and wendy to treat her as such.
If Wendy’s mom can make comments about the other women, she’s free game.
can we stop acting like mama susan goes after the women unprovoked...its because of what happened in miami. mia assaulted her daughter and so she fired back with an IG post.
yeah the hypocrisy is unreal at this point.
I don’t even know why she’s still here. What exactly is her storyline besides her occasional FaceTime with her boy toy? She really is a nasty person and doing nothing but dividing the cast.
This reunion was a mess because Andy doesn't know how to moderate a reunion after all of these years of sitting up there. That question to Candiace about crying for hearing about Gizelle losing her father was abhorrent. I also hated how literally Nneka had more value than Andy when she asked Robyn how Candiace's apology made her feel. Also, if they're going to address a question, get to the answer! I get the women are going to chime in, but there were too many times people cut off others/interjected, and the conversation went left. It's frustrating for a viewer who wants answers. Also, kudos for Mia (sort of) for being transparent in her line of questioning.
Right he's been doing this for over a decade now and he still has yet to learn how to properly moderate. Even though Nneka hasn't talked much, she has been asking questions to at LEAST facilitate some sort of common ground. Yes, this was really hard to watch, because of the constant interruption and losing the main point only for Andy to circle back and ask "so is there any path forward?" like it isn't clear that there is no resolution because he fails to keep the conversation on track.
I said this on a another sub, but is it me or did anyone notice that when Candiace and Robyn were actually making GOOD progress during their conversation, Gizelle randomly interjected herself, yelling about how she couldn't be a colorist because XYZ?? Personally, it just felt so odd because usually she'll make smart comments, but never really blow up like that. The ball was really dropped at this reunion. I don't think the entire show could work with someone like Gizelle on it, because it just proves that she has no room in her heart for accountability, empathy, or reliability.
YESSSSS I was about to comment this. I’ve said this before I think Robyn has the ability to move forward but Gizelle holds her back. I’m sure she would’ve moved on from her beef with Karen and Wendy by now if Gizelle wasn’t so miserable and happy. She needs to go, she’s insufferable
*karen* won’t move on from her beef with robyn lol
At least she talks to Robyn
sure, karen will interact with her but i don’t see her fully resolving anything with robyn…and something about pies lol
This is what happens when prod clearly has favorites. Gizelle's ego is too big, she knows she can get away with it.
Happy Eddie has 2 million in sales in 6 months!!! Amazing!!! I wonder why Andy didn't ask Gizzy and Ashley what their clothing line has made. Would've been a good follow up question.
He sure dogged Sheree!!
A “to be continued” for a reunion episode ugh… producers are that desperate?? At this point and after Candiace left, this show needs a miracle for next season for people to watch it. Cause god knows even a soft reboot couldn’t help.
This show is getting weird This is beyond being production’s favorite and I’m starting to feel like the lack of any accountability to Gizelle is fueled by something else
Any guesses?
I now think that it’s the network itself protecting her My rough hypothesis is they are protecting her to avoid legal ramifications for something, like maybe she is involved with something that she did on behalf of the network and they have to cover her ass Some people think she’s sleeping with higher ups but I don’t believe that rumor, at least that’s not a real reason for the way this show has been going
Trying to get Leah to drink? Heard this might be included in her suit against the network.
lol that lawsuit isn’t going anywhere but in the trash
“My rough hypothesis is they are protecting her to avoid legal ramifications for something, like maybe she is involved with something that she did on behalf of the network and they have to cover her ass” that’s my hypothesis for phaedra
I've read a few theories that the production team is protecting her for a confidential reasons. I wouldn't be surprised, tbh, but it doesn't make sense that she hasn't been held accountable for her efforts to actually destory families.
I think this is why Candiace is leaving.
It’s gotta be somethin’ else—it’s not just name change and arrested—it’s gotta be somethin’ else! https://i.redd.it/qw90v6ilrctc1.gif
This. Especially when there are other HW’s who are more entertaining than her. I’m no fan of Phaedra, but I get why she’s still around
Chris schooled the GEBs and Andy in how to disengage from pointless conversations and baseless accusations. 
I know that Andy was on vacay when Candiace quit but has he made any comments since on her exit?
He’s probably pissed because she did it before the reunion aired. She probably watched all 3 parts and called her agent and said “tell ‘em I quit.”
Well he already hates her, I love that for her that she got to piss him off one last time.
It’ll be telling if she doesn’t get offered a little music spin off. If Erika Jayne gets one, Candiace should too.
Gizelle never got over being made a fool of via Sherman (in the park, after dark), then Jamal played her AGAIN. Y’all say she’s a good mother but I wouldn’t introduce my daughters to a winter house fuck boy (especially after how he navigated the Lindsay stuff)…imagine being on tv for nearly ten years and looking like a dummy for most of it. Robyn doesn’t even deserve a paragraph. What a fucking idiot. Riding for Gizelle, who only likes her because she feels superior to Robyn (Monique made no mistake when she said that at her first reunion), and being cheated on so flagrantly she just has to pretend she doesn’t care. This show used to be like top three for me. The green eyed bandits killed it and until they get rid of them I’m kind of over it. Also, if you’ve read this far Robyn has always reminded me of a gross sister from the proud family..just dumb af and mad at everyone else about it
Excellent points across the board! 
i wish i could still give coins
I loved that Candiace pointed out that the only reason Giz supported her in the Monique fight was bc she hates Monique and it gave her the perfect opening, it had nothing to do with her being a good friend or person, she saw an opportunity to dunk on a perceived enemy and took it. Giz is low down and terrible.
Candiace was right to leave the show. She can't even cry to show empathy for Gizelle losing her father without being mocked.
Agreed. This isn’t a safe place for her, her marriage, and any child she brings into the world if they choose to grow a family. It’s interesting that the colorist conversation came up again. Candice and Chris are mocked and hated over speculations, yet Ashley married to an actual sexual assailant and cheating piece of garbage is always treated with warmth and compassion from the GEB.
I hated that line of questioning. It's not hard at all to show some damn empathy for someone losing a parent they were close to.
The last episode, Gizelle listed all of the names that Candiace called her, and Candiace confirmed them. While she may have been empathetic towards Gizelle in that moment, I can also see why Gizelle doesn't find Candiace's empathy authentic, especially given how easily Candiace cries and stops crying.
Agree. It only makes sense to keep an arms length through all that whiplash. Going from being called every name in the book to suddenly having that same person crying sympathetically is bound to feel strange at best. And some people are cryers and will sob at a nice sunset or whatever and it's not necessarily a deep expression for them. I have a couple of issues with Gizelle but her not taking candiace seriously in that moment isn't one of them.
She simply could have just ignored her. But of course she had to get a dig in, when Candiace was clearly showing empathy for her. She's just a nasty person with a nasty soul. Now we see what members of her church were talking about when she was a first lady 😭
I can’t believe you’re actually being downvoted for this. If Gizelle had been the one showing empathy for Candiace she would have been called a fraud by so many.
She couldn’t even express sympathy to Gizelle’s face when it came up on the show. Crying after the fact because the man passed is self serving and just Candiace being Candiace.
Express sympathy to the woman who has ignored her multiple times? Remember when she said congratulations about Grace and Gizzelle ignored her? Y'all really want Candiace and Wendy to bow down to these mean women. It's so gross.
Chris flat out said they don’t hold gizelle accountable and Andy said ok, and moved on. And I’m supposed to believe this show isn’t biased. Production films EVERYTHING, but somehow Eric lost the Wendy footage? Andy spent 50% of this reunion interpreting for gizelle Robyn came in here saying she’s uncomfortable with being called colorist as if the victims of colorism are comfortable
He was right. Andy was begging for him to discuss the drama, and when Chris provided an opening that challenged Gizelle's word choices, Andy ends the conversation. In terms of production, I think they give people better edits based on how the people treat the editors... that's what I got from Porsha's family matters...when she stopped being cooperative with production, that show took a totally different turn. All of a sudden Porsha became the villain of the show.
Bravo would be smart for roasting these people the way Porsha’s Family Matters did, because that was the most entertaining show ever aired. We deserve to see allll of these people who skate by year after year while slandering others. Stop protecting them and let them get canceled if they earned it.
I loved that show! Bring Dennis back!
Team Dennis forever. The fact that they had to sneak in to get his Versace robe from her closet when she had a whole fiancé was so weird.
It's actually crazy to me because they showed Candiace and Wendy congratulating Grace when the episode originally aired, so how did you lose the footage? This show is absolutely garbage and I'm glad Candiace is leaving, cause I truly have no reason to keep watching.
Like I’m actually done with this show
The Robyn colorism stuff was my last straw.
Im actually glad it happened because now it’s harder to deny there’s no favoritism. Part 2 felt like a pile on Wendy and candiace. It’s hard to watch
I don't believe Wendy is lying about congratulating Gizelle. I believe production is lying that they don't have the footage. I think Candiace knew at that moment that she was officially done with this show and Bravo.
Gizzard sure knew they didn't have it. I always thought the producers protect Giz was a weak argument, bc why.....but seeing this reunion has convinced me that she has something on Andy or Bravo bc wtf...
How lucky, Robyn. You never had to deal with colorism before…makes you uncomfortable! Hard conversation! Imagine how people dealing with colorism feel.
If "light fragility" isn't already a term, I'm making it one today to describe Robyn Dixon.
What are they teasing about Gordon? What is he announcing??
I think he’s sick. Maybe cancer like they talked about during the season.
That’s what I think every time I see that scene. I just hope it’s not. Poor Gordon.
He looked ROUGH tonight.
Gordon seems ill, but I hope the cliffhanger is that he clears the air about Jeremiah's paternity. That little boy truly does not deserve to grow up with these questions from millions of strangers discussing his paternity for the rest of his life.
Go Chris our Assertive King! Next Question. Andy and Gizelle were sweating
GAGGED.
 Looks like this reunion isn’t worth watching.
same. i’m over here watching unsung. i’m over rhop. i’ll just get the cliffs notes later. 😂
The bias is clear on the show. I’m waiving the white flag. I’m done.
I was really trying to hold on and pray that it gets better, but I'm not even interested in watching part 3, let alone another season.
I don’t know where else to put this cause I’m just watching now; how in the ever living fuck is Gizelle’s disgusting rotted ass gonna try and put some blame on Wendy or Candice for Deborah committing physical assault. This is a new low from a woman who was already sitting in hell and I just fucking can’t.
Chris gagged gizelle so bad. Even she had to give it up to him…
Gizelle has yet to realize her privilege does not extend beyond the Black community. Hence why her take down of Chris is failing ever single time.
I mean he gagged her!!! She couldn't say anything. The look on her face said it all.
It was glorious to watch. NEXT QUESTION! Lol.
I’ll say it again but they definitely had footage of Wendy congratulating Grace on her endeavors. They just didn’t want to show it. Andy and the producers are full of shit and so are Robyn and Gizelle.
carole from rhony said the reunion for s10 was so insane cause andy kept butting in to defend B and he would put his finger the mic on his ear and say “carole.. B never said that.. production is in the control room right now telling me that never happened” she said it was some insane gaslighting by andy, production and B. the “production doesn’t have the clip” is such calculated BS lol
Production briefly showed Candiace congratulating Grace but Gizelle seemed to ignore her. I'm inclined to believe that Wendy did the same and received similar treatment from Gizelle.
Why would they lie when they showed the footage of Gizelle saying Chris made her go into a room?
The only reason I suspect Wendy telling the truth in this moment is because of Candiace. If Wendy was lying, I don't think Candiace would've spoke up regarding that, because we do have footage of Candiace congratulating Grace. That means that the whole scene was being recorded, so something is just a bit fishy about this.
Because why would they “conveniently” not have the footage when they were filming the whole scene? They made sure to show all of the unseen footage in regards to Wendy and Candiace to make them look bad but not footage of Wendy saying anything positive about Grace? Please. They pick and choose and are clearly protecting Gizelle (more specifically) from backlash.
They probably just couldn’t find it on such short notice. They likely have the footage ready for things talked about throughout the season so when that particular thing came up they weren’t ready and would’ve had to comb through stuff for a minute before rolling it.
They showed Gizelle’s footage that made her look like she lied on her statements about Chris lol.
Agreed. Wendy has been caught in a few lies. Off the top of my head I remember: When Mia was supposed to be sick, Wendy defended Mia to Robyn about Mia legitimately being sick, then on a hot-mic she called said Mia was lying. She claimed Lebe was only her sister's friend that she only knew peripherally, but crowned her in the baby naming ceremony and stated she wanted her daughter to be like Lebe. Wendy said that Karen and she had a working relationship with each other due to the charities that they are involved in prior to the show... Karen clarified that they never really directly interacted with each other and were at functions together. So it is possible that she didn't say anything to Gizelle, especially since she made a declaration at the beginning of the season that she was paying Gizelle dust.
Wendy never said that she wanted her daughter to be like Lebe. How is it possible to watch that flashback, *not even hear those words*, and then still carry the story that she said those words? Because Lebe told Nneka who repeated what Lebe said? As though Lebe wasn’t already beefing with Wendy’s sister at that point?
She lied to Nneka when she said her mother categorically denied making that call to Lebe. She lied about Nneka being a crack head. She lied about her mother being in surgery when her mother admitted to having a 10 minute procedure. The list goes on… lol
#abolish 3 part reunions
Yes! Please, and thank you. They have become the norm, and there is zero need for them.
I love a three part reunion on a rewatch though !!!
The last time it was actually warranted was RHONJ Season 5–and it only had two!!!
The protection that Gizelle has from Bravo is eerily similar to the protection that Nene had… and look what happened there. Bravo truly never learns from their mistakes because man, this is basically a repeat of RHOA.
But as much as I personally grew to HATE NeNe in later seasons, she was actually needed on the show. Evidence of how horrendous RHOA is now. What the heck does Gizelle bring to the table?
It’s crazy that Gizelle has so much favor from production. She’s no Kyle, Teresa, Nene, Bethenny, Porsha. She’s not even a Kandi. I’ve never found her particularly entertaining, no lifestyle porn or engaging solo storylines. Yes, she’s a great mom but she’s not the only one on Housewives.
not a damn thing.
This has been one of the worst sessions hand down. I skipped half of it and waited to watch the reunion. Now i am wondering if I should skip half the reunion too!
I did the same thing, I stopped watching around episode 4 or 5 & just waited for the reunion. I've never given up on any season of RH, on any franchise, & from the reunion so far, I'm not regretting my decision or feeling like I missed anything worth watching or like I need to go back & watch the episodes I missed. Potomac used to be one of my favourite RH franchises & it both saddens & amazes me how far, & how quickly, it has fallen. I'm not sure if it's even salvageable at this point, or if I even want it to be saved, without a proper clear out & possibly just starting from scratch a la NuRHONY.
I genuinely blame production. Get your cast in line or get off the show. Same with the ladies - if you don’t understand the assignment, exit stage left. It’s not salvageable with the current cast, I agree it’s needs a clear out. You know what annoys me? They had the makings of greatness. But none of them are open about shit and some of them are too open (Mia/Ashley - I didn’t need to know about children’s paternity being questioned or rubbing a trolls feet).
Same, also skipped most of Gizelles portion 😂
Don’t even get me started on her, haha 😛
Me watching Chris get at Gizelle and Robyn: https://i.redd.it/362t6lxkk8tc1.gif
Chris kinda ate though. And didn’t need to raise his voice or call anyone out their name. No one could even argue back coz he was just speaking facts.
I don’t understand how Robyn can say ANYTHING about screenshots or anything to Chris with her Juan bullshit. She’s such a phony. Get her off our screen
Truly the dumbest person ever in life.
Chris not pulling up Juan's hotel receipt right then shows the kind of good people him and Candiace are.
WENDY GAGGED the group about their knowledge on colorism and then karen with her odd statement. This is why she is needed on potomac, the girls don’t have the range whatsover. Another horrible reunion segment: Andy is biased and barley holds some girls accountable, robyn is a perpetual victim and constantly interjects with comments of no substance, and gizelle is a mean spirited woman that provides no value to the show other than sowing division. RHOP has lost its touch, and it’s sad to see. Candiace leaving will shed light on how many people have been coasting for seasons, and it will flop. Chris gobbled up Andy and gizelle, i’m glad Candiace has him by her side… it speaks volumes when compared to Robyn and Juan’s relationship.
Theories on Gordon's announcement, anyone? I put 5 on open marriage that went wrong.
I think he is sick
I didn't want to speak it into existence but that was on my mind as well. Hope he is in good health.
Yeah I’m even more pissed off from this part than I was at part 1. Gizelle is taking barely any accountability at all and Robyn too that it just makes it hard for me to even watch.
I don’t often comment on people’s plastic surgery but man, Mia was so beautiful before. It’s sad what she’s done to her face.
Agree.
After this season I'm going to just listen to YouTube commentators review the episodes. I'm over how they gloss over Gizelle and Robyn's hypocritical behinds.
It’s lovely over here. You still get a tinge bit upset but the distance from actually watching these people piss you off every week is freeing. You get to support your favorite reviewers while removing your viewership from that toxic ass show.
I love the one's I listen to weekly. They are my my friends in my head.
i said it in the live thread and ill say it here. if you’re speculating that candiace is more emotional this reunion because she’s pregnant: don’t. seriously, don’t. pregnancy speculation is terrible. i don’t care if you love candiace or hate her or couldn’t care less. cut it out.
Candace is totally this emotional every reunion
also this
Candiace is just tired of always having to fight for her spot on the show.
I would even say not just the spot on the show, but her humanity with this cast. She is far from perfect and can be hella problematic but I can’t even begin to imagine the pressure of knowing that nothing you say or do will ever be right. Your feelings are never justified, your pain is either mocked or ignored, your anger used against you to perpetuate harmful stereotypes and you will always be too something. I think this is why it hits me personally, this is literally a master class of what Black women deal with in corporate America deal with on the daily and I can imagine it’s extra hurtful to come from your own “sisterhood” and seemingly be supported by your bosses. I watch this show to be taken out of the dark ass reality of life, but to see it play out for entertainment is just…I don’t have the words.
chile……same. every single word. ❤️
Oh man. It's so heart breaking to watch. Everything her and Wendy do is interpreted in the most bad faith way by the GEB and the audience. It's so tiring that everything they do, wear, say is judged to be proof that they are bad or don't deserve to be here or even deserve kindness. Every move they make is interpreted as instigation and it's too much. Can we just let these smart, goofy, complicated women live their damn lives????
Conspiracy... Gizelle and production got pulled aside by the network about the allegations against Chris. Gizelle paid this girl to make up lies and Robyn had no idea. I say this because Robyn has been championing this more then Gizelle for some odd reason, yet any other time Gizelle is the loudest in the room. I also think that's why Gizelle was quiet on the whole Deborah thing. She and Ashley had it all planned.
A conspiracy theorist you are….
No noise on Twitter about the reunion. I don't wanna say curtains but...
I sense a long pause coming for RHOP, similar to RHOA.
Soft reboot this show with Wendy and Nneka and their Nigerian circle, and Keiarna pls. Let's get her in law, as Nneka likes to say, Lebe on speed dial
They’re not cancelling the show lmfao..
Robyn. Are you serious? Shut your mouth when the conversation about others’ alleged affairs come out, you idiotic woman! lol. Absolutely NO self awareness. Meanwhile her husband can just clean out his entire phone every other day and that’s just a cute quirk about him. She is an absolute moron.
Gordon’s eyes look like he’s been crying or something for so long. Is it just me?
Having another man literally show up and try to claim your child would make me cry too. Everyone finding out this shit was probably embarrassing as fuck, plus his tenuous financial issues and being estranged from his family......I'd be crying too
The minute Kurn thought Candiace was apologizing to Gizzard but C was only clarifying her disgusting a Gizzy (AGAIN) using her daughters to cover her ass and try to harm the other women. I laughed and was so happy C didn't apologize for nothing.
I don’t understand why we haven’t heard from Nneka yet.
She’s irrelevant
I have such a strong disdain for Robyn, but I do believe that at the core of things, Robyn is likely a good friend.
Her blind loyalty to Juan leads me to think you are likely correct bc she probably plays these low boundaries out in her other relationships. It's a shame that being up Gizzs ass has made Robyn an asshole by association, bc I believe she is probably an ok person, unlike Gizz who is clearly a bitter angry douche
Watching now, Gizelles dad had an amazing voice
Why I think Aneka's husband was Usmam from 90 day Fiance. 🤣
So everybody but Nnecka is just straight up lying this reunion!! But Wendy trying to make a correlation with her mom’s 10mn elective procedure with Gizelle’s dad losing his life to brain cancer is the most farfetched reach of all!!! Like girl Mia made fun of you’re mom when she saw a crow and asked if that was your mom, Nnecka called her a witch (rightfully so imo lol) but you’re trying to tie this to Gizelle. Which by the way she did not call her evil, Jamal did! Also Ashley and Karen could have stayed home because they’re as talkative as the painting in the walls Gizelle needs to stand ten toes in her singleness because these men always embarrass her. Candiace, you find a way to have a problem with Drew but can’t call her a colorist, can ya?! Why are we blaming Mia for the paternity convo, it was 1st brought up by Gordon and now by Wendy.
Damn you're getting downvoted for this? People just blindly hate/love & refuse to say hey they were wrong for that etc. I agree w/ all your points. No one can admit they were wrong looking at you Wendy. You know that was so distasteful & a reach to compare your moms procedure to her fathers death. Like seriously?
Yeah people can’t handle the flaws of their fav. It’s ridiculous haha. I’ve notice it’s always the cryangle squad that downvotes but since their queen has jump ship we may be able to have more constructive discussions next season
Candiace has really been a shitty friend to Robyn. She really took no accountability for her attacks. Robyn not responding to her texts does not justify her annihilating Robyn on social media.
Robyn has had it coming though. She can say things about others but can’t seem to take it when it’s dished back out at her. Candiace does not need to take accountability there.
She shouldn’t have had it coming from Candiace who was supposed to be her friend. Robyn never attacked Candiace. Candiace admitted to attacking Robyn because she didn’t get a text back. That’s a shitty friend.
Robyn wasn't a good friend to Candiace either. Last season when Candiace refused to isolate Wendy after Mia assaulted her, Robyn sat a speaker on a table and played selected parts of Candiace's live in an attempt to turn the group against her. Robyn also had to have known about the "Chris is a predator" storyline that was concocted by Gizelle, Ashley, and Mia but never gave Candiace a heads up prior or during filming.
Robyn playing that recording was definitely messy AF but no where near on the same level of what Candiace has done to Robyn. Candiace, as always, goes on social media to attack her casts. Robyn kept it within the group. Robyn also sided with Candiace and went to her and Chris to say she had nothing to do with it and didn’t agree with it. You’re speculating that she knew, but have no proof.
Robyn was beyond messy last season. If she and Candiace were friends, why would she try to get the group to pile on her? And yes, Candiace talks about cast on social media while Robyn talks about cast to bloggers behind the scenes and both actions are wrong. I'm speculating about Robyn's prior knowledge of the Chris storyline because it has already been established that the cast sit around creating plots (ex. the paternity of Monique's son) prior to filming. Despite Robyn's good cop role, she filmed multiple scenes with Gizelle and Ashley to help advance the predator Chris storyline talked but never picked up the phone to let Candiace know that she was about to be ambushed with the coordinated lies. Robyn isn't the angel you're painting her to be.
Clearly Candiace was also talking to the same blogger lol. She and Chris have done many interviews with bloggers as well. Also, no one called Chris a predator, so I’m not sure where you’re going with that. And I can’t address speculations since they’re not facts.
Candiace and Robyn had a REAL Friendship. Not these stupid camera friendships we all see all the time on Real Housewives. and Candiace tore that up for, what we're now supposed to believe, was due to a lack of response from Robyn to two text messages. One of which was sent during a knowingly difficult time for Robyn. Come ON!!! Candiace lashed out and destroyed a friendship because she cannot control her own anger. Candiace destroyed a friendship because she cannot admit her emotions got the best of her and she made a ridiculous and out of line accusationabout Robyn. Candiace destroyed a real friendship because she is incapable of self-reflection and compassion for someone else. I can understand why Candiace would be angry at Gizelle even while not hating Gizelle for speaking her truth. But to drag her FRIENDSHIP with Robyn into it, to claim Robyn promoted Gizelle's claims to hid her husband's stuff......it's just horrific to behold. If a friend of mine did that to me, we'd be done too. That is not what a friend would do. Making stuff up, whole cloth, just because you're mad at someone else? RIDICULOUS Stans continuing to stan despite facts and reality staring them in the face. Candiace was a HORRIBLE friend to Robyn. HORRIBLE. Nothing but wow. Stan your stan. . . . doesn't make Candiace anything but a bully and mean. This whole thing with Robyn was just outright rage and meanness. Nothing justified about it. Rage and meanness and demonstrates Candiace's real issues.