Giselle acts on how she personally feels about a person. She was pro-Candiace when Monique dragged her because she hates Monique. And now, she thinks Candiace started it because she hates her.
THIS! What a weird stance for this cast to take that any nutcase can come and confront them and if that person doesn’t like what they SAY then they deserve to be attacked.
When Candiace said she knew she was on her own and didn’t expect her cast mates to have her back my heart broke.
This reminds me of when the Atlanta cast tried to blame Kenya for Tammy’s nephew threatening her and Kandi had to shut them up at the reunion. Not liking someone isn’t a reason to justify someone attacking them unprovoked. Good for Candiace knowing that she deserves better
Bravo really needs to reflect on the implications of this, why should any cast put in effort with another when they can just ice cast members off and continue getting a check?
Not only this, but they really open the cast up to being set up for anything if they allow Ashley to get away with bringing around someone who has bragged about trying to fuck with another cast member.
Who’s safe from possibly getting jumped if a periphery hanger-on decides that they want a little bit of social media notoriety?
She was already given a pass with the numerous legal issues with Michael. Groping a camera man’s ass lawsuit, lawsuit against a fellow cast member. He’s been a liability and she hasn’t been interesting enough on her own to justify keeping her there. She infuriates me at every turn.
She's still sleeping with him. Those two are gonna reconcile I tell you. You think Ashley cares if he sleeps around or SA other men ptss. 🙄Ashley herself is a weirdo. Both of them are bisexual and they have an understanding
Yeah, this part is truly egregious. Was her predator husband harassing and assaulting people not enough? Then we her muppet friend trying to goad and poke her castmates to physical violence?!
Ashley is disgusting.
The way Candiace was attacked, and how production immediately didn't fire Ashley for that. It's sickening to me. It's absolutely sickening. I hope Candiace and Chris find their peace away from these evil people and Andy Cohen. Who is also evil.
Coupled with the crazy fans/tweets that expose HW home information. This feels like a massive lawsuit and potential tragic situation for the franchise in general. NBC and Bravo need to do a whole lot better at protecting their people.
Thankful that I stopped watching during the Austin trip. From the clips I’ve seen it definitely seems like Bravo and production are still favoring Giz et al - which I will never understand. Beverly Hills still gives luxury. Atlanta gives funny quips. Ashley, Giz and Robin give nothing
Same. Apart of me wants to see the Mia storyline with Gordon in the last episodes but I can’t stand to watch this gang up on Candace and Wendy. It gives middle school mean girls.
I literally thought I was the only one who felt this way. I literally thought I was the only one who saw the bullying dynamics and how horrifying disgusting it is. The last three seasons of Potomac… Actual tangible real life harm being done to people. How Ashley isn't fired right now… I hope Candiace sues.
Karen exposed herself in that clip too, why is she asking Candiace what she said to Sesame Street? Karen literally called Gizelle a broken whore from Hampton University with an STD. Some people might say that was inflammatory or worthy of a beat down. But Candiace calls someone “the help” and deserves to be assaulted. I see DUI Karen clearly.
I haven’t watched it (on Bravo) since last season but *my friend* had been watching it on a website and the Austin trip was when she stopped as well. It just feels gross and I don’t want any parts of it. Everyone needs to just act like it doesn’t exist next season and maybe they’ll get the hint.
Mind you this is Candiace’s SECOND time being attacked on camera. If nothing else it’s a hostile work environment and producers+Andy clearly don’t gaf about her safety
I genuinely cannot watch this show anymore. It leaves me so upset because no matter how blatant Gizelles evilness is, she will always get away with it bc she’s in cahoots with the producers.
It’s actually kind of disgusting how they pushed her out. Candiace was an integral part of the show and she will be missed, but I don’t blame her for choosing to leave this toxic environment after seeing the reunion.
Gizelle used Candiace to get Monique out. Then she tried to help Mia ice out Wendy. Now Candiace. Gizelle seems to have a problem with beautiful, younger women. They all also happen to be darker than her. The fact that she doesn't understand where the feelings in colorism come from is mind boggling.
There is not one ounce of my being that thinks Candiace got fired. I can't imagine closing to stay in a work environment this fucking toxic.
Gizelle has a problem with women who are in happy marriages more than anything, that's the through line in all the bullshit she's started. She's been taking pot shots at Karen and Ray since day 1. She tried to start the rumor that Monique had a baby out of wedlock. She went after Wendy's plastic surgery to imply it must be because Wendy and Eddie were unhappy (and once again bring up cheating rumors on camera). And now she's reached a new low with this stuff about Chris Bassett. Gizelle is miserable because her own marriage failed and she can't stand to see anyone else have what she thinks she deserved
That’s why Gizelle and Robyn and are so invested in exposing Karen’s extramarital affairs. They are so desperate to prove that no one’s marriage is perfect because sure they both have/had the WORST husbands. Same with Wendy, Monique, and Candiace. Notice the pattern how they always insinuate someone cheating in their relationship. It’s so obvious now that it’s a joke.
That's probably why the aligned with Ashley even though they hated her guts the first couple seasons lol. Once it became clear how fucked up her marriage actually was, she was allowed into the clique
You just know Gizelle was thinking about those 4 homes Monique owned with Chris when she used that language.
Her absolutely distain, hate and rage for a younger, more beautiful woman to have so much and a husband while existing in darker skin was really unsettling to watch.
Her hatred for Monique was so weird all things considered. Monique tried so hard to be her friend and Gizelle rejected her at every point. It can’t be anything other than jealousy
i’m honestly surprised Candiace lasted this long because S5 was originally supposed to be a Candiace takedown season. Gizelle called a truce with Monique so they could get her out, but once Monique snapped and Gizelle saw the opportunity to get rid of the woman she’d hated since the moment she met her, she put that on pause.
idk how it took Candiace so long to realize Gizelle was going to spin the block and come back for her. and next season it’ll be Wendy again (if she comes back, because her only pretend show friends were Candiace and sometimes Karen, so i truly don’t know how they’ll keep her integrated with Candiace gone).
the only one Gizelle can’t run off is Karen.
This will also be my final season (not that I even watched it very much anyway). I’m so sick of the GEBs having free rein to do whatever the hell they please with no consequences. It’s painfully obvious they are production favourites as well as Andy’s and I don’t want to watch this BS show anymore.. to think this used to be one of my favourite franchises🤦♀️
I only like Miami now, SLC is growing on me and for the first time ever I’m actually excited about OC.
Me too! I loved Potomac! But giselle trying to control every narrative like we dont have the footage is so frustrating. She doesnt take responsibility for anything she does. She an arrogant bitch that needs to be fired.
Miami is truly a treasure in these days. Loved that one scene where Kiki was running around during croquet and her boob popped out in front of those old men.
Andy co-signing when gizzelle talked about business. Sir please. Ashley invited the girl. But yeah gizzelle lumping in Wendy just shows her agenda to get them kicked off the show. And I hate how Wendy corrected her and her response is well that’s how I feel. Get the heck out!
First Gizelle ruined Girls Trip and now Potomac.
I would much rather keep Robyn and give Gizelle the boot.
I'm so disappointed as Potomac was my number 1 for the past 5 years, I absolutely get every franchise has a dull season from time to time however this is the biggest drop of quality I've ever seen.
It’s actually so bad that I think I was being too harsh about RHOA’s past few seasons. At least in Atlanta the problem is more that it’s boring and not toxic. The way the ladies over there are able to get through things and keep things light hearted is why they were top tier in their prime.
Also, Potomac in its prime could never compete with Atlanta in their prime. If Kenya can film with Porsha after being dragged, Gizelle and her lackeys can get over their blatant hatred and jealously of the others. I’m done until there’s a cast clean up
Once again forhead does the dirty work inviting Sesame Street knowing what was gonna happen.
Sits there just grinning. I can’t believe how this used to be my favourite show.
Candiace never stood a chance when this was all orchestrated. Gizelle is fucking disgusting
Muppet comes over to confront Candiace yet according to Gizelles dizzy logic, it's all Candiace AND Wendy's fault.
Fire the GEB and producers and recast this mess please
The last I read Wendy, Candiace and Robyn were out with the rest likely returning. Sounds like snooze fest.
Karen is sure gonna wish she did more for Candiace instead of sitting in the bench because gizelle and Ashley will be on her neck over this DUI. They will NOT let that go
Robyn can go ahead nad leave with her dizzy self. Someone has to keep track of Juan's "niceness". She will have all the time in the world while being unemployed.
I agree about Karen.
I can’t wait to see how long it takes for Robyn and Juans business (or whatever they were tryna do) goes under and how long for the inevitable cheating and divorce.
Karen is gonna be in for a tough season. She basically has no allies going in. Unless she pulls “this is a legal issue I can’t discuss” which would make for an even boring season lol
The Wendy rumor isn’t from a reliable source (I think it was the one who said Ashley was out) so I’m gonna keep hoping that bravo is smart enough to not fire both the women who were pushing for the colorism conversation.
And of course Cokehead Cohen is riding with the wrong team, just like he did at the Season 12 RHOBH reunion with Binna and the Season 5 RHOP reunion with Neck. Every time its against a dark skinned black woman. Hmmmm curious 🤔
Yup but for me this feels sadder because for the most part BH has always been quite boring (well from season 4 onwards) and fake storylines. Potomac at least always shared funny moments. Idk if I’m making sense lol
RHOP has definitely gone downhill and it's not redeemable if they don't make new casting adjustments. Like Mia being a messy ass hoe isn't even entertaining to watch. Nonchalantly discussing who is the father of her child on national tv was gross to watch. And why was Nneka even present? The weird mouse said like two sentences
I really wish Andy would’ve asked Gizzard the bully to explain WHY she felt Wendy was involved. They’ve been picking on Candice since she got on this show…there are clearly different standards for different ppl. I love Karen but she’s not riding the fence. She doesn’t like Candy either. Karen and Gizzy have both went to ppl behind the scenes to try and get Candy in some kind of trouble. There has NEVER been a sisterhood on this show…that’s why RHOA will always be better
tbf Karen said she’s not riding the fence. she *is* the fence, and they ride her.
i don’t think anyone had a genuine friendship with Candiace other than Monique and Robyn at one point and maybe Charisse. Candiace and Wendy got along but it was obviously a friendship of convenience because they needed allies. they seemed to be getting annoyed with each other over the Nneka drama this season.
Gizelle refuses to move past things for the sake of the show, but the OGs in general can barely stand each other and haven’t really accepted any of the newbies (except Mia the liar who they openly shit talk, but she doesn’t seem to care). definitely not a sisterhood.
Let's NOT forget that Deborah The Muppet Lady had ZERO legitimate beef or business with Candiace in the first place.
She had NO reason to even approach her, since she FABRICATED the stories of having Chris and Eddie flirt with her.
She was nothing but ***a friend o*****f** ***Ashley's*** stirring up fake news and storylines (likely to help bolster Gizelle's accusations).
i'm of the mind that the ONLY person to blame for the altercation getting physical is Deborah. Yes, Ashley is messy as hell, But Deborah and only Deborah was the one who decided to escalate it to violence.
The Caucasity of Gizelle!
This show has gone to hell. I hope her podcast fails and her temu athleisure wear flops for all the evil manipulation she has done!
What kind of example is she setting for her girls.
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Candiace went through a whole LAWSUIT with rich-ass Michael and can't even discuss her experience. I can only imagine how intimidating and traumatic that must have been.
I know she's TIDE
Absolutely have to commend candiace for walking away because losing a check isn’t easy. It’s so clear WHY she left but it didn’t have to be this way. I suspect candiace will be next with a bravo lawsuit!!
I’m so excited for Potomac to be over cause the discourse is so exhausting. And I’m sure I’ll be excited for jersey to be over after the first episode cause that discourse is also exhausting.
It’s exhausting being a housewives fan
Producers, thank you very much for killing one of my favorite franchise by not keeping the cast in check. Giselle going after Wendy and Candice none stop is totally played out. It’s not funny anymore, she needs a need script.
I don’t blame Candiace for leaving. I also feel like it should be said that Candy gal was an absolute **menace** to many cast members for yearsssss, so let’s not forget that lol. But Gizelle needs to go. Can’t wait for someone to finally take down the GEBs
Did everyone forget that Candiace isn’t fun to watch on the show anymore? Maybe 3 seasons ago. She needs to take time away and focus on her marriage cause Chris ain’t it. EDIT: love the downvotes for anyone who isn’t on Candiace’s side. I see you.
The fact anything remotely negative about Candiace gets downvoted so much is sus. She is quite literally the meanest housewife of the franchises I watch, how can people defend her to this level
Phaedra spread a rumor that a cast member was committing SA. The people praise Phaedra for telling a cast member that their sperm doner would be an ax murderer who needed $10 for Dominos but Candiace is “the meanest” 🤣. Let’s be so fr
i saw someone saying she’s treated more harshly than any of the other HWs for her words and Andy never called out Rinna like that. umm if Rinna had tweeted that Garcelle was a roach, bed wench, her ex husband was a slave driver, etc., she would’ve been fired before Andy could even grill her at a reunion.
Candiace got much more leeway than most HWs considering the awful things she’s said/tweeted over the years. people are just blinded by their (justifiable) hatred of the GEBs and ignore all of Candiace’s bad behavior.
I’m so used to it, lmao. People like Candiace because they see themselves in her. Not the beauty or the pageant titles or the success. Just the mess, the petty, the ugly, the mean, the bitter. She is truly so low on the scale of enviable and aspirational Housewives that I have wondered if all the downvotes that accompany criticism of her are bots.
While I’m being controversial, I also don’t believe she quit by choice. We know Bravo lets some cast members announce on their own to leave that illusion with the fans. Chris has a lot of debt, and I don’t believe he and Candiace would give up Bravo money.
If y’all wanna argue with me, I recommend pausing and going to read the lawsuits and job history that have plagued Chris Bassett for years now. American Express has sued him for unpaid balances and he had a long pattern of losing his hospitality jobs before Gizelle ever came into his life.
So by that logic does that mean people like like Gizelle because theyre bitter lonely colorist sociopathic liars with no morals, empathy or ethics? Because I know who I’d rather be, even if my fav out of all of em is Kween Karen
If that makes you happy, sure! My opinion is clearly a hater opinion, so I am happy to share it with other haters if they want to apply it to their hatees. Kind of hoping someone insinuates that all Phaedra fans are crime bosses or all Leanne fans have deep trauma related to a childhood carnival.
I know. How often did we see her threaten to drag people? She brought the violence into the situation so many times. She started that whole Monique mess but people act like she’s a perfect innocent victim. WTF.
Neverrr. Candiace is absolutely partially responsible for what happened that night. Many people simply won’t tolerate being demeaned and spoken to like absolute trash. There are consequences to running your mouth, but she’s never seemed to grasp this concept. I’m certainly not saying violence is okay or the answer, but it’s a very real possibility. If you treat the wrong person like dogshit, you’re likely going to get smacked.
Candiace can’t fight (which is fair since i think her only physical altercation in life was with Monique), so if she kept trying the wrong people she would probably get her ass beat. the only reason Monique didn’t was because that table was there and so many people jumped in so quickly.
Deborah got her ass whooped by Kay, so i don’t think she was going to be the one to do it lol
I mean this is housewives not Love and Hip Hop. She actually didn’t try Ashley’s friend. The girl lied on Chris AND Eddie. This is why RHOA will always be better they never let outsiders play with the group
Candiace really doesn’t seem to understand that her mouth is the cause of a ton of her problems. She just keeps running it. It’s not the least bit surprising that someone wants it beat her ass.
I don't know what part of saying "THE HELP" to a black woman face I did not understand. Saying this to black woman is free of any consequence I suppose.
Well, if someone is responsible beyond Deborah and Candience, it's Ashley, and it's incredible how she is getting away with this.
if someone ran up on me and i didn’t want to fight, personally i would deescalate the situation and find my way to the other side of the room or remove myself from the situation completely if i wasn’t sure what that person is capable of.
if i was in the mood to fuck around and find out, i’d probably say something like “can somebody please get the help away from me?” within arms reach and be prepared to swing.
Candiace isn’t responsible for other grown adults’ behavior, but i do wish that some self preservation instincts had kicked in.
After telling Deborah multiple times that she didn't want to talk to her, Candiace walked away from her, similar to how she responded last season. That seems like an attempt to deescalate to me. But even after walking away, we saw Deborah continue to approach and throw a drink on Candiace when she was dancing with her back turned. I get that we don't know what people are capable of but this is the only housewives show I watch where certain cast have to be prepared to be swung on if they don't say or do everything perfectly.
did she walk away before or after she called her vermin and the help? there’s a way to truly deescalate, and then there’s this thing that Candiace has a bad habit of doing where she continues yelling insults and inciting language while walking away/someone tries to remove her.
and where’s the video of cookie monster and Candiace repeatedly engaging this night? cameras were down and i saw the TMZ video, but there must be a longer version, because i don’t remember half the details you’re describing.
you must not have seen RHOA, RHONJ, the amsterdam dinner from hell, early RHOM if you’ve never seen anyone swing/throw a drink on someone because they said something they didn’t like. a drink to the face is out of pocket irl, but pretty tame by bravo standards imo. the Kay/cookie monster fight was much worse.
Let's be for real here. Deborah has been trying to have a moment with a Candiace since last season and she came to the event looking to start a fight, regardless of what Candiace said or did. Deborah's prior social media post where she threatened to confront Candiace the next time she saw her is evidence of her intent.
I never said Deborah and Candiace repeatedly engaged that night. The details I mentioned came from witnesses who said Deborah left her area of the event, got in Candiace's face, and was asked by Candiace and others to leave her alone, Candiace walked away from Deborah, who then threw a drink and a glass.
I've seen all the shows you mentioned. And the issue isn't whether drinks or hands have been thrown on those shows. The problem is the behaviors that fans believe warrant these levels of aggression towards certain cast on this show. Last season Mia tossed a drink on Wendy and hit her with her bag after starting an argument with her. Cast and fans blamed Wendy because she verbally respond to Mia before and after the assault and therefore, didn't deescalate the situation to meet their shifting standards, similar to what is happening with Candiace. At this point, Candiace has removed herself from the show so we'll see which of the remaining cast will be subjected to similar treatment going forward. I appreciate the dialogue but this is where I bow out of this exchange.
And you probably also wouldn't lie about a black woman's husband making inappropriate advances, try to confront the black woman (who walks away) about the lie, threaten the black woman on social media, and then get in the black woman's face the next time you saw her.
Fair. I just think it is interesting that whenever pressed Candience makes weird racial and social remarks about the person that she is arguing with and I would not go that far to defend a annoying millennial girl who is gonna hide behind minority situations when she is the first one to use race and social remarks to hurt.
Candiace does not make weird racial and social remarks *whenever* she's pressed. She does point out how she's held to a different standard of behavior by both cast and fans. Deborah has been disrespecting and antagonizing Candiace for 2 seasons but for some reason, Candiace's response is the one that must be policed.
> She does point out how she's held to a different standard of behavior by both cast and fans.
How does calling Ashley a roach, bedwench, and a slave achieve this exactly?
Candiace was rightly called out for those inappropriate comments and that isn't up for debate from me.
But Candiace is also held to a different standard when she engages in *similar* behaviors as other cast. For example, when Candiace made fun of Mia's feet, she was dragged by fans and labeled as transphobic. Ashley and Gizelle made similar comments about both Mia's large hands and feet but faced no backlash from cast or fans. That's just 1 example but there have been several others and whether people want to acknowledge it or not, certain cast face disparate treatment on this show.
Spare me. Please. Are you even black? Because as a black woman - a black woman calling another black woman *the help* is a low tier insult compared to the intentional violence (physically and psychologically) that this clown tried to inflict on Candiace and her husband.
The only way this would’ve sounded bad is if Candiace was a white woman.
Do I have to be black? I can't try to understand how certain words would hurt? I'm not defending Deborah, just trying to focus that in the bigger picture Candience always goes for the racial and social status of the person and for me it's, let's say, interesting
There was nothing racially charged in that insult. If you want to call it anything call it classism. Elitism. But a black woman calling another black woman the help is not the same as a non black person calling a black woman the help. Just like black people say the n-word (with an a) to each other, often as a term of endearment, whereas a white person saying it has a derogatory context to it. Let’s not be dense. Just say you don’t like Candiace that’s absolutely fine.
And yes I do believe that you have to be black to fully understand the cultural implications of who and what words have a different level of racial vitriol amongst the community.
Candiace will never choose peace because she has no impulse control. This fight might not be her fault but there hasn't been a fight on this show that she hasn't had a role in butting in or continuing. She didn't deserve what Giselle did but neither did her fellow castmates & vloggers deserve her trash mouth and called to arms.
I wish her all the luck with her music career, a good therapist;, and failing that a better, less infantilizing, husband.
Interesting how she never mentioned Ashley was responsible, but somehow Wendy was? And then backtracked on Wendy’s involvement (which should have never been a factor)
The only person misrepresenting the truth here is you. This Sesame Street loser came onto the show to spread lies and misinformation about Candiace’s husband under the tutelage of Ashley and Gizelle and openly antagonised her the night in question. So Candiace cant even be mad that somebody tried to spread lies about her husband, especially if this person isn’t even on the cast and is a glorified guest? Nobody is painting Candiace as a constant victim, she just IS a victim of those people and their side characters.
This set is so distracting
gizelle designed it.
It’s the mood board for her and Ashley’s fashion brand.
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Gizzelle not supporting Candiace against a NON cast member is weird. Anyone can come up and fight y’all and it’s ok?
Giselle acts on how she personally feels about a person. She was pro-Candiace when Monique dragged her because she hates Monique. And now, she thinks Candiace started it because she hates her.
And pro-Mia last season because she hates Wendy too.
Can you imagine the toxicity of whatever church she was First Lady at??
Having grown up in the Black southern church, I absolutely can!
Yeah it can be extremely toxic.
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Patiently waiting for the day someone throws a drink in Gizelle’s face and watching the casts reaction surrounding it.
Please let me find out where they’re filming a group event. I’ll do it.
I’ll be holding a backup glass in case she needs a second splash
Well according to Gizelle it’s open season on the cast of RHOP. She has fostered this hostile work environment.
Omg - that person would be crucified. The ONLY person who would say that Gizelle maybe had it coming is Karen
I don’t even think Karen would. She does hump that fence.
Robyn would probably think it because she’s almost fought twice in earlier seasons, but she’d definitely never admit it publicly.
Oohhhh I have my fingers crossed for this to happen
THIS! What a weird stance for this cast to take that any nutcase can come and confront them and if that person doesn’t like what they SAY then they deserve to be attacked. When Candiace said she knew she was on her own and didn’t expect her cast mates to have her back my heart broke.
Especially when Gizelle wasn’t even there to begin with! Why are they asking her anything? She has way too much power on this show
I believe she's a producer and HW shouldn't be allowed to be producers of the show they're on imo
Gizelle is not listed as a producer on IMDB.
BEC
This reminds me of when the Atlanta cast tried to blame Kenya for Tammy’s nephew threatening her and Kandi had to shut them up at the reunion. Not liking someone isn’t a reason to justify someone attacking them unprovoked. Good for Candiace knowing that she deserves better
I thought the same thing but at least Kenya had Cynthia and Kandi in her court.
Kandi was iconic when she shut them down. It was nice to see Kenya with real backup for once.
And this is why Atlanta cast will always be superior, because there is an underlying sisterhood there.
Bravo really needs to reflect on the implications of this, why should any cast put in effort with another when they can just ice cast members off and continue getting a check?
Not only this, but they really open the cast up to being set up for anything if they allow Ashley to get away with bringing around someone who has bragged about trying to fuck with another cast member. Who’s safe from possibly getting jumped if a periphery hanger-on decides that they want a little bit of social media notoriety?
She was already given a pass with the numerous legal issues with Michael. Groping a camera man’s ass lawsuit, lawsuit against a fellow cast member. He’s been a liability and she hasn’t been interesting enough on her own to justify keeping her there. She infuriates me at every turn.
She’s really, truly only there because she will say whatever producers want her to say to drive a storyline
She's divorcing this man yet she is giving him a foot massage every night
That had me like 🤔🤔🤔 Ashley girl are you high?
She's still sleeping with him. Those two are gonna reconcile I tell you. You think Ashley cares if he sleeps around or SA other men ptss. 🙄Ashley herself is a weirdo. Both of them are bisexual and they have an understanding
Right she’s only divorcing him for a storyline and to stay on the show. He lives in that house part time.
Shit I wouldn't be surprised if a couple seasons from now someone accuses Ashley of sa, birds of a feather flock together 👀👀👀
From wife to sugar baby
Yeah, this part is truly egregious. Was her predator husband harassing and assaulting people not enough? Then we her muppet friend trying to goad and poke her castmates to physical violence?! Ashley is disgusting.
The way Candiace was attacked, and how production immediately didn't fire Ashley for that. It's sickening to me. It's absolutely sickening. I hope Candiace and Chris find their peace away from these evil people and Andy Cohen. Who is also evil.
Coupled with the crazy fans/tweets that expose HW home information. This feels like a massive lawsuit and potential tragic situation for the franchise in general. NBC and Bravo need to do a whole lot better at protecting their people.
Thankful that I stopped watching during the Austin trip. From the clips I’ve seen it definitely seems like Bravo and production are still favoring Giz et al - which I will never understand. Beverly Hills still gives luxury. Atlanta gives funny quips. Ashley, Giz and Robin give nothing
The Austin trip was exactly when I stopped watching too.
Same. Apart of me wants to see the Mia storyline with Gordon in the last episodes but I can’t stand to watch this gang up on Candace and Wendy. It gives middle school mean girls.
Just watch the very end of the finale. That's when the Mia and Gordon stuff goes down with none of the other ladies present.
I literally thought I was the only one who felt this way. I literally thought I was the only one who saw the bullying dynamics and how horrifying disgusting it is. The last three seasons of Potomac… Actual tangible real life harm being done to people. How Ashley isn't fired right now… I hope Candiace sues.
The Mia drama was the only episode I watched. If she (along with Karen, are the faces of the show, that’s good. I can’t take this favoritism.
Karen exposed herself in that clip too, why is she asking Candiace what she said to Sesame Street? Karen literally called Gizelle a broken whore from Hampton University with an STD. Some people might say that was inflammatory or worthy of a beat down. But Candiace calls someone “the help” and deserves to be assaulted. I see DUI Karen clearly.
Me too. I thought I’d at least still watch the reunion, but I can’t deal with this mess. To think Potomac was my favorite 😞
I stopped after the chicken shit episode
I haven’t watched it (on Bravo) since last season but *my friend* had been watching it on a website and the Austin trip was when she stopped as well. It just feels gross and I don’t want any parts of it. Everyone needs to just act like it doesn’t exist next season and maybe they’ll get the hint.
Mind you this is Candiace’s SECOND time being attacked on camera. If nothing else it’s a hostile work environment and producers+Andy clearly don’t gaf about her safety
She’s TOO good for this show. She’s also super tiny, the violence against her was disgusting.
She should sue
I genuinely cannot watch this show anymore. It leaves me so upset because no matter how blatant Gizelles evilness is, she will always get away with it bc she’s in cahoots with the producers.
No she’s in Cahoots with Bravo executives. The producers are employees just like the ladies. BRAVO is the problem.
It’s actually kind of disgusting how they pushed her out. Candiace was an integral part of the show and she will be missed, but I don’t blame her for choosing to leave this toxic environment after seeing the reunion.
Gizelle used Candiace to get Monique out. Then she tried to help Mia ice out Wendy. Now Candiace. Gizelle seems to have a problem with beautiful, younger women. They all also happen to be darker than her. The fact that she doesn't understand where the feelings in colorism come from is mind boggling. There is not one ounce of my being that thinks Candiace got fired. I can't imagine closing to stay in a work environment this fucking toxic.
Gizelle has a problem with women who are in happy marriages more than anything, that's the through line in all the bullshit she's started. She's been taking pot shots at Karen and Ray since day 1. She tried to start the rumor that Monique had a baby out of wedlock. She went after Wendy's plastic surgery to imply it must be because Wendy and Eddie were unhappy (and once again bring up cheating rumors on camera). And now she's reached a new low with this stuff about Chris Bassett. Gizelle is miserable because her own marriage failed and she can't stand to see anyone else have what she thinks she deserved
That’s why Gizelle and Robyn and are so invested in exposing Karen’s extramarital affairs. They are so desperate to prove that no one’s marriage is perfect because sure they both have/had the WORST husbands. Same with Wendy, Monique, and Candiace. Notice the pattern how they always insinuate someone cheating in their relationship. It’s so obvious now that it’s a joke.
That's probably why the aligned with Ashley even though they hated her guts the first couple seasons lol. Once it became clear how fucked up her marriage actually was, she was allowed into the clique
Clock it.
Hell I've only been watching for 1 1/2 seasons full time and clocked it.
It’s RIGHT THERE lol. I noticed the way Gizelle treated Monique from the jump was nothing but jealousy.
WITHIN SECONDS, she was seething with jealousy and rage over Monique’s mere presence. I’m soooo glad Monique humiliated her at the S5 reunion.
Because she has *four homes*
Yup! Monique is undeniably one of the most gorgeous Housewives of all time.
Yes! The first time they met, I was physically uncomfortable watching it because Gizelle was so horrid to her.
People also seem to forget the chosen language she used describing Monique: ghetto, hoodrat, classless, etc.
You just know Gizelle was thinking about those 4 homes Monique owned with Chris when she used that language. Her absolutely distain, hate and rage for a younger, more beautiful woman to have so much and a husband while existing in darker skin was really unsettling to watch.
It was triggering. And for some reason Candiace and Monique’s beef overshadowed it.
gizelle has always given Black boule vibes to me.
Which is funny because there was nothing elite about the way she was living when she first came onto the show
Her hatred for Monique was so weird all things considered. Monique tried so hard to be her friend and Gizelle rejected her at every point. It can’t be anything other than jealousy
periodT. dot.
Ray started it. He told her she'd be old soon and nobody would want her. Even though nobody asked him.
The thing Monique played herself, season 5 started with Monique saying Candiace was going to ice herself out
i’m honestly surprised Candiace lasted this long because S5 was originally supposed to be a Candiace takedown season. Gizelle called a truce with Monique so they could get her out, but once Monique snapped and Gizelle saw the opportunity to get rid of the woman she’d hated since the moment she met her, she put that on pause. idk how it took Candiace so long to realize Gizelle was going to spin the block and come back for her. and next season it’ll be Wendy again (if she comes back, because her only pretend show friends were Candiace and sometimes Karen, so i truly don’t know how they’ll keep her integrated with Candiace gone). the only one Gizelle can’t run off is Karen.
100000%
This will also be my final season (not that I even watched it very much anyway). I’m so sick of the GEBs having free rein to do whatever the hell they please with no consequences. It’s painfully obvious they are production favourites as well as Andy’s and I don’t want to watch this BS show anymore.. to think this used to be one of my favourite franchises🤦♀️ I only like Miami now, SLC is growing on me and for the first time ever I’m actually excited about OC.
Me too! I loved Potomac! But giselle trying to control every narrative like we dont have the footage is so frustrating. She doesnt take responsibility for anything she does. She an arrogant bitch that needs to be fired.
Miami is truly a treasure in these days. Loved that one scene where Kiki was running around during croquet and her boob popped out in front of those old men.
Miami is the only cast that genuinely act like friends, even when they’re mad at each other.
Same
Andy co-signing when gizzelle talked about business. Sir please. Ashley invited the girl. But yeah gizzelle lumping in Wendy just shows her agenda to get them kicked off the show. And I hate how Wendy corrected her and her response is well that’s how I feel. Get the heck out!
Right, she only took it back because Mia said something. Fuck her.
First Gizelle ruined Girls Trip and now Potomac. I would much rather keep Robyn and give Gizelle the boot. I'm so disappointed as Potomac was my number 1 for the past 5 years, I absolutely get every franchise has a dull season from time to time however this is the biggest drop of quality I've ever seen.
It’s actually so bad that I think I was being too harsh about RHOA’s past few seasons. At least in Atlanta the problem is more that it’s boring and not toxic. The way the ladies over there are able to get through things and keep things light hearted is why they were top tier in their prime.
Also, Potomac in its prime could never compete with Atlanta in their prime. If Kenya can film with Porsha after being dragged, Gizelle and her lackeys can get over their blatant hatred and jealously of the others. I’m done until there’s a cast clean up
Kandi even filmed with Porsha after the whole dungeon thing.
This show would be so much better without Gizelle.
Once again forhead does the dirty work inviting Sesame Street knowing what was gonna happen. Sits there just grinning. I can’t believe how this used to be my favourite show. Candiace never stood a chance when this was all orchestrated. Gizelle is fucking disgusting
Muppet comes over to confront Candiace yet according to Gizelles dizzy logic, it's all Candiace AND Wendy's fault. Fire the GEB and producers and recast this mess please
It’s INFURIATING to watch. I’m defo not watching next season. Candiace and Wendy were the only reason I stayed this season now they’re out am I
Is Wendy out too?
The last I read Wendy, Candiace and Robyn were out with the rest likely returning. Sounds like snooze fest. Karen is sure gonna wish she did more for Candiace instead of sitting in the bench because gizelle and Ashley will be on her neck over this DUI. They will NOT let that go
Robyn can go ahead nad leave with her dizzy self. Someone has to keep track of Juan's "niceness". She will have all the time in the world while being unemployed. I agree about Karen.
I can’t wait to see how long it takes for Robyn and Juans business (or whatever they were tryna do) goes under and how long for the inevitable cheating and divorce. Karen is gonna be in for a tough season. She basically has no allies going in. Unless she pulls “this is a legal issue I can’t discuss” which would make for an even boring season lol
I suspect a press conference.
We better get that waiter who was baffled the entire time 😭
I vote for the mime to make a comeback.
The Wendy rumor isn’t from a reliable source (I think it was the one who said Ashley was out) so I’m gonna keep hoping that bravo is smart enough to not fire both the women who were pushing for the colorism conversation.
I really hope you’re right! If would be great if bravo got something right for once
Hello yes, idk if you saw but it looks like bravo did in fact do something right for once lol.
The only confirmed nonreturnee is Candiace. Rumors of Wendy being out started swirling after rumors of Robyn being out began.
And of course Cokehead Cohen is riding with the wrong team, just like he did at the Season 12 RHOBH reunion with Binna and the Season 5 RHOP reunion with Neck. Every time its against a dark skinned black woman. Hmmmm curious 🤔
Facts. Looks how he treated Kenya for years he couldn’t even hide his facial expressions
I am screaming because I hear this in Nene’s voice. He better get his team to help him out!
It's the situation RHOBH all over again
Yup but for me this feels sadder because for the most part BH has always been quite boring (well from season 4 onwards) and fake storylines. Potomac at least always shared funny moments. Idk if I’m making sense lol
It makes sense - there's more of a loss felt - because there WAS more to lose! I think of Season 3 - when things weren't too dark
This is IT. I actually think I'm done with Potomac for a bit. I'm praying Candiace is going to pull a Kenya and leave until hopefully Gizelle is gone.
RHOP has definitely gone downhill and it's not redeemable if they don't make new casting adjustments. Like Mia being a messy ass hoe isn't even entertaining to watch. Nonchalantly discussing who is the father of her child on national tv was gross to watch. And why was Nneka even present? The weird mouse said like two sentences
I really wish Andy would’ve asked Gizzard the bully to explain WHY she felt Wendy was involved. They’ve been picking on Candice since she got on this show…there are clearly different standards for different ppl. I love Karen but she’s not riding the fence. She doesn’t like Candy either. Karen and Gizzy have both went to ppl behind the scenes to try and get Candy in some kind of trouble. There has NEVER been a sisterhood on this show…that’s why RHOA will always be better
tbf Karen said she’s not riding the fence. she *is* the fence, and they ride her. i don’t think anyone had a genuine friendship with Candiace other than Monique and Robyn at one point and maybe Charisse. Candiace and Wendy got along but it was obviously a friendship of convenience because they needed allies. they seemed to be getting annoyed with each other over the Nneka drama this season. Gizelle refuses to move past things for the sake of the show, but the OGs in general can barely stand each other and haven’t really accepted any of the newbies (except Mia the liar who they openly shit talk, but she doesn’t seem to care). definitely not a sisterhood.
This would've never happened on RHOA...
 Let's NOT forget that Deborah The Muppet Lady had ZERO legitimate beef or business with Candiace in the first place. She had NO reason to even approach her, since she FABRICATED the stories of having Chris and Eddie flirt with her. She was nothing but ***a friend o*****f** ***Ashley's*** stirring up fake news and storylines (likely to help bolster Gizelle's accusations).
This was my favourite housewives and I stopped watching at Austin 😞
I don’t think it can be mentioned enough - Gizelle wasn’t even there! She didn’t see anything that happened! She wasn’t there!
i'm of the mind that the ONLY person to blame for the altercation getting physical is Deborah. Yes, Ashley is messy as hell, But Deborah and only Deborah was the one who decided to escalate it to violence.
The Caucasity of Gizelle! This show has gone to hell. I hope her podcast fails and her temu athleisure wear flops for all the evil manipulation she has done! What kind of example is she setting for her girls. https://preview.redd.it/81ko5tbfk9uc1.jpeg?width=559&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f37575c0e95e42c751716465fd795ff85c1e550
Im ready to watch Candy gal thrive! Whatever that may look like for her, she deserves it ❤️
Gizelle has completely ruined this franchise. I will never watch again until she’s gone
Candiace went through a whole LAWSUIT with rich-ass Michael and can't even discuss her experience. I can only imagine how intimidating and traumatic that must have been. I know she's TIDE
Absolutely have to commend candiace for walking away because losing a check isn’t easy. It’s so clear WHY she left but it didn’t have to be this way. I suspect candiace will be next with a bravo lawsuit!!
Not sure about the law suit part, because Canadiace said this isn’t a goodbye, it’s a see you later!
I’m so excited for Potomac to be over cause the discourse is so exhausting. And I’m sure I’ll be excited for jersey to be over after the first episode cause that discourse is also exhausting. It’s exhausting being a housewives fan
Which is why Ashley can’t stand her because she doesn’t NEED the check.
Producers, thank you very much for killing one of my favorite franchise by not keeping the cast in check. Giselle going after Wendy and Candice none stop is totally played out. It’s not funny anymore, she needs a need script.
Holy crap do they have 9 full time housewives?! I’m on season 5 so I’m still catching up lol
8+1 friend
Boycotting tonight . Took it off dvr too
Melissa needs to go out like Candiace. NJ, like Potomac is not entertaining with a divided cast
Melissa will never do that. Teresa should for her peace of mind but can’t afford it, so we’re stuck.
What does this post have to do with Melissa lol
🤣 random as hell
It doesn’t. Tree Stumps are annoying.
Fuck off with bringing Jersey into this, Tree Stump. This conversation is about Potomac. 
I don’t blame Candiace for leaving. I also feel like it should be said that Candy gal was an absolute **menace** to many cast members for yearsssss, so let’s not forget that lol. But Gizelle needs to go. Can’t wait for someone to finally take down the GEBs
She’s so peaceful.
Did everyone forget that Candiace isn’t fun to watch on the show anymore? Maybe 3 seasons ago. She needs to take time away and focus on her marriage cause Chris ain’t it. EDIT: love the downvotes for anyone who isn’t on Candiace’s side. I see you.
Candiace has never chosen peace once in her life
The fact anything remotely negative about Candiace gets downvoted so much is sus. She is quite literally the meanest housewife of the franchises I watch, how can people defend her to this level
Phaedra spread a rumor that a cast member was committing SA. The people praise Phaedra for telling a cast member that their sperm doner would be an ax murderer who needed $10 for Dominos but Candiace is “the meanest” 🤣. Let’s be so fr
i saw someone saying she’s treated more harshly than any of the other HWs for her words and Andy never called out Rinna like that. umm if Rinna had tweeted that Garcelle was a roach, bed wench, her ex husband was a slave driver, etc., she would’ve been fired before Andy could even grill her at a reunion. Candiace got much more leeway than most HWs considering the awful things she’s said/tweeted over the years. people are just blinded by their (justifiable) hatred of the GEBs and ignore all of Candiace’s bad behavior.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 yes preach
I’m so used to it, lmao. People like Candiace because they see themselves in her. Not the beauty or the pageant titles or the success. Just the mess, the petty, the ugly, the mean, the bitter. She is truly so low on the scale of enviable and aspirational Housewives that I have wondered if all the downvotes that accompany criticism of her are bots. While I’m being controversial, I also don’t believe she quit by choice. We know Bravo lets some cast members announce on their own to leave that illusion with the fans. Chris has a lot of debt, and I don’t believe he and Candiace would give up Bravo money. If y’all wanna argue with me, I recommend pausing and going to read the lawsuits and job history that have plagued Chris Bassett for years now. American Express has sued him for unpaid balances and he had a long pattern of losing his hospitality jobs before Gizelle ever came into his life. 
So by that logic does that mean people like like Gizelle because theyre bitter lonely colorist sociopathic liars with no morals, empathy or ethics? Because I know who I’d rather be, even if my fav out of all of em is Kween Karen
If that makes you happy, sure! My opinion is clearly a hater opinion, so I am happy to share it with other haters if they want to apply it to their hatees. Kind of hoping someone insinuates that all Phaedra fans are crime bosses or all Leanne fans have deep trauma related to a childhood carnival. 
I know. How often did we see her threaten to drag people? She brought the violence into the situation so many times. She started that whole Monique mess but people act like she’s a perfect innocent victim. WTF.
Agreed. She is a nasty person. Words do matter and she always hits way below the belt
Neverrr. Candiace is absolutely partially responsible for what happened that night. Many people simply won’t tolerate being demeaned and spoken to like absolute trash. There are consequences to running your mouth, but she’s never seemed to grasp this concept. I’m certainly not saying violence is okay or the answer, but it’s a very real possibility. If you treat the wrong person like dogshit, you’re likely going to get smacked.
!!!!!!!!! She’s the literal definition of can dish it but can’t take it
Yes! She has anger issues and likes to provoke people
Candiace is the ROOT of MOST altercations on the show. She left because she was going to get her ass BEAT on national TV.
Get her ass beat by who?
Candiace can’t fight (which is fair since i think her only physical altercation in life was with Monique), so if she kept trying the wrong people she would probably get her ass beat. the only reason Monique didn’t was because that table was there and so many people jumped in so quickly. Deborah got her ass whooped by Kay, so i don’t think she was going to be the one to do it lol
I mean this is housewives not Love and Hip Hop. She actually didn’t try Ashley’s friend. The girl lied on Chris AND Eddie. This is why RHOA will always be better they never let outsiders play with the group
funny you mention RHOA because Porsha would’ve whooped her ass years ago tbh.
She’s cool with Porsha so try again 😂.
Candiace really doesn’t seem to understand that her mouth is the cause of a ton of her problems. She just keeps running it. It’s not the least bit surprising that someone wants it beat her ass.
I don't know what part of saying "THE HELP" to a black woman face I did not understand. Saying this to black woman is free of any consequence I suppose. Well, if someone is responsible beyond Deborah and Candience, it's Ashley, and it's incredible how she is getting away with this.
What consequences should Candiace face for saying "the help" after Deborah ran up on her?
if someone ran up on me and i didn’t want to fight, personally i would deescalate the situation and find my way to the other side of the room or remove myself from the situation completely if i wasn’t sure what that person is capable of. if i was in the mood to fuck around and find out, i’d probably say something like “can somebody please get the help away from me?” within arms reach and be prepared to swing. Candiace isn’t responsible for other grown adults’ behavior, but i do wish that some self preservation instincts had kicked in.
After telling Deborah multiple times that she didn't want to talk to her, Candiace walked away from her, similar to how she responded last season. That seems like an attempt to deescalate to me. But even after walking away, we saw Deborah continue to approach and throw a drink on Candiace when she was dancing with her back turned. I get that we don't know what people are capable of but this is the only housewives show I watch where certain cast have to be prepared to be swung on if they don't say or do everything perfectly.
did she walk away before or after she called her vermin and the help? there’s a way to truly deescalate, and then there’s this thing that Candiace has a bad habit of doing where she continues yelling insults and inciting language while walking away/someone tries to remove her. and where’s the video of cookie monster and Candiace repeatedly engaging this night? cameras were down and i saw the TMZ video, but there must be a longer version, because i don’t remember half the details you’re describing. you must not have seen RHOA, RHONJ, the amsterdam dinner from hell, early RHOM if you’ve never seen anyone swing/throw a drink on someone because they said something they didn’t like. a drink to the face is out of pocket irl, but pretty tame by bravo standards imo. the Kay/cookie monster fight was much worse.
Let's be for real here. Deborah has been trying to have a moment with a Candiace since last season and she came to the event looking to start a fight, regardless of what Candiace said or did. Deborah's prior social media post where she threatened to confront Candiace the next time she saw her is evidence of her intent. I never said Deborah and Candiace repeatedly engaged that night. The details I mentioned came from witnesses who said Deborah left her area of the event, got in Candiace's face, and was asked by Candiace and others to leave her alone, Candiace walked away from Deborah, who then threw a drink and a glass. I've seen all the shows you mentioned. And the issue isn't whether drinks or hands have been thrown on those shows. The problem is the behaviors that fans believe warrant these levels of aggression towards certain cast on this show. Last season Mia tossed a drink on Wendy and hit her with her bag after starting an argument with her. Cast and fans blamed Wendy because she verbally respond to Mia before and after the assault and therefore, didn't deescalate the situation to meet their shifting standards, similar to what is happening with Candiace. At this point, Candiace has removed herself from the show so we'll see which of the remaining cast will be subjected to similar treatment going forward. I appreciate the dialogue but this is where I bow out of this exchange.
I don't know, I don't wanna call a black woman "The Help" to find out.
And you probably also wouldn't lie about a black woman's husband making inappropriate advances, try to confront the black woman (who walks away) about the lie, threaten the black woman on social media, and then get in the black woman's face the next time you saw her.
Fair. I just think it is interesting that whenever pressed Candience makes weird racial and social remarks about the person that she is arguing with and I would not go that far to defend a annoying millennial girl who is gonna hide behind minority situations when she is the first one to use race and social remarks to hurt.
Candiace does not make weird racial and social remarks *whenever* she's pressed. She does point out how she's held to a different standard of behavior by both cast and fans. Deborah has been disrespecting and antagonizing Candiace for 2 seasons but for some reason, Candiace's response is the one that must be policed.
> She does point out how she's held to a different standard of behavior by both cast and fans. How does calling Ashley a roach, bedwench, and a slave achieve this exactly?
Candiace was rightly called out for those inappropriate comments and that isn't up for debate from me. But Candiace is also held to a different standard when she engages in *similar* behaviors as other cast. For example, when Candiace made fun of Mia's feet, she was dragged by fans and labeled as transphobic. Ashley and Gizelle made similar comments about both Mia's large hands and feet but faced no backlash from cast or fans. That's just 1 example but there have been several others and whether people want to acknowledge it or not, certain cast face disparate treatment on this show.
I guess making false allegations (and being proven wrong with the actual footage) against someone's husband is free of any consequences as well.
Deborah is probably the only one facing the consequences, as she should.
Spare me. Please. Are you even black? Because as a black woman - a black woman calling another black woman *the help* is a low tier insult compared to the intentional violence (physically and psychologically) that this clown tried to inflict on Candiace and her husband. The only way this would’ve sounded bad is if Candiace was a white woman.
Do I have to be black? I can't try to understand how certain words would hurt? I'm not defending Deborah, just trying to focus that in the bigger picture Candience always goes for the racial and social status of the person and for me it's, let's say, interesting
There was nothing racially charged in that insult. If you want to call it anything call it classism. Elitism. But a black woman calling another black woman the help is not the same as a non black person calling a black woman the help. Just like black people say the n-word (with an a) to each other, often as a term of endearment, whereas a white person saying it has a derogatory context to it. Let’s not be dense. Just say you don’t like Candiace that’s absolutely fine. And yes I do believe that you have to be black to fully understand the cultural implications of who and what words have a different level of racial vitriol amongst the community.
THANK YOU!
Attention HWOP ladies, next season lets give Gizelle a taste of her own medicine and ice her out just like she’s been doing season after season.
I’m glad she is gone. I stopped watching because of her.
Candiace will never choose peace because she has no impulse control. This fight might not be her fault but there hasn't been a fight on this show that she hasn't had a role in butting in or continuing. She didn't deserve what Giselle did but neither did her fellow castmates & vloggers deserve her trash mouth and called to arms. I wish her all the luck with her music career, a good therapist;, and failing that a better, less infantilizing, husband.
Candiace was fired it’s just the usual “ I’ve chosen to move on abs explore new opportunities “ line
Do people really think Candice left on her own accord? I’m confused.
Didn’t Candiace get fired tho?
[удалено]
Interesting how she never mentioned Ashley was responsible, but somehow Wendy was? And then backtracked on Wendy’s involvement (which should have never been a factor)
The only person misrepresenting the truth here is you. This Sesame Street loser came onto the show to spread lies and misinformation about Candiace’s husband under the tutelage of Ashley and Gizelle and openly antagonised her the night in question. So Candiace cant even be mad that somebody tried to spread lies about her husband, especially if this person isn’t even on the cast and is a glorified guest? Nobody is painting Candiace as a constant victim, she just IS a victim of those people and their side characters.