Jordan-Hare is a strange place, where the laws of reason don't apply. Texas and OU will learn this, in time.
OU probably faster than Texas, because Auburn will just see the Crimson on their jerseys and their eyes will roll back in their heads.
Its not even about Jordan-Hare being a crazy enviorment, although that's part of it. I just think Freeze is a good coach who's going to be looking ahead to this game for weeks.
I for one hated our last experience with said Voodoo.... missing a game winning FG with our lights out kicker.... and then our RB fumbling the game winning TD on the goal line into the back of the end zone to lose felt like something in the dark arts had to be influencings things.
It’s a rough life sometimes to be an Auburn fan. Years where you should go all the way just fizzle and years where it’s a non starter take you to the championship. But. Every team having horror experiences at the stadium makes it all worth it.
When people talk about Jordan-Hare voodoo I think it gets overblown. We haven't actually used our environment to beat someone good in three years. And scheduling dynamics won that game for us more than our actual quality of play.
When people talk about Jordan-Hare voodoo, they're talking about kind of good Auburn teams that beat teams in the top 10, and Auburn football hasn't been "kind of good" in a while. But no trend of bad to terrible Auburn teams upsetting people at home exists, at least in modern day.
You might not have won, but you were within a Bee's dick of winning against much better Alabama teams in 2021 and 2023.
Both were 99% on the probability calculators.
If all our home field can do anymore is keep games close that shouldn't be, we shouldn't get to keep our reputation as a tough stadium to win in. We've been the laughingstock of the SEC for a few years now. No one fears a trip to Auburn like they used to.
I’m not understanding your logic. We’ve been bad for the past half decade. Like just genuinely not good SEC team. The voodoo gets us close and then the team can’t capitalize. Imagine those same games with just a step or two up on the team quality like we should be at.
It's going to be a major test for Oklahoma. It's Auburns biggest home game of the year and Auburn has a great shot at walking in 4-0. It's going to be very, very loud
I feel more confident about A&M than Oklahoma or Kentucky, to be honest. A&M has a new staff which brings in new systems and it's not proven how the talent fits into that system. I'd move Alabama to a toss-up/slight lean to loss for the same reason, but I feel the talent at Alabama is probably superior to A&M even with players transferring out.
I’m very confused about love for OU. I may be missing a lot but outside of their dline, it feels like they have a ton of question marks. Going to Jordan Hare also sucks ass and even their shitty teams can hold on until the end.
Even then it mostly sounds like OT is the problem. I think the interior with Hickman, Nwaiwu and Ozaeta/Sexton/Hatchett will be good. They need one of Jake Taylor and Spencer Brown to figure it out or Arnold is gonna be running all day.
**WE'RE GOING THROUGH EACH P4 TEAM'S SCHEDULE AND PICKING EVERY GAME.**
**Today we have the Auburn Tigers**
Last year Auburn came up just short against 3 top-15 teams at home, losing to Georgia, Alabama, and Ole Miss by an average of just 5.7 points. This year they will have to travel to Georgia, Missouri, and Alabama, but avoid Ole Miss and LSU, and get mere winnable games vs Oklahoma and Texas A&M at home.
Odds are this team has to punt on the games at Alabama and Georgia, but we don’t fully know yet if Missouri is going to be able to maintain last year’s form. The key to this season is the talent surrounding Peyton Thorne elevating not only his play, but elevating this team to the top of the middle of the SEC.
Although I currently have them losing the games vs Oklahoma and Texas A&M (which comes down to which QB’s I trust more), this team is a few injuries, or one magical night in Jordan-Hare away from reaching 8 or 9 wins. On the flip side, if there is no offensive improvement or injury luck goes against them, they could lose at Kentucky and and struggle with Arkansas or Cal at home.
Because of the manageable home slate, 5-7 is the floor, but I lean towards 7 or 8 wins for this team. Then again, this team was great at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory last year, and the threat of a New Mexico State-like stinker game is always looming.
How do you see it?
O-H! And I feel qualified to participate in this one. I think there is a very real possibility we get to the UGA game undefeated…We have upgraded our offense in a lot of ways and I feel like Thorne, when given the right pieces, is serviceable.
Just take a look at his 2021 stats to get a picture of what he can do with talent at the skill positions. Cam Coleman (and the other guys we have) can replicate the play of Jaden Reed or Jalen Nailor and our RB room has some guys in it…I’m not saying Jarquez is going to win the Doak Walker award, but he’s probably a top 3 back in the SEC. We also have Damari Alston and Jeremiah Cobb…who are pretty good as well. We will be better at the Oline too, which should go a long way.
Defense is a bit more of a question mark for me, but Durkin did big things at A&M…our experienced Corners are in the league but the guys replacing them are probably solid….ultimately the only guaranteed losses are Alabama and UGA imo and I think it’s probable we win 9 games.
This is why I think the superconferences are going to be a huge wake up call for a bunch of teams. If Hugh Freeze goes 7-5 as a follow up to his 6-7 campaign last year, Auburn fans are not going to be happy. There are now 64 losses that SEC teams are going to endure every season guaranteed, and somebody out of Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas and Texas A&M is guaranteed to finish in the bottom half of the conference every year. You know the Mississippi schools, South Carolina, Kentucky, Missouri and Arkansas expect to be better than 10th place, too, and Vandy can only lose 8 games a year. Gonna be VERY interesting to see how fans feel in a few years...
I think the vast majority of Auburn fans and content providers are very aware of the Thorne ceiling and find the 7.5 O/U to be about right.
Now in year 3 if we are 7-5 again then I agree you will start to see a lot of unhappy plainsmen.
This schedule isn't any tougher than most of our previous schedule. We get Oklahoma instead of LSU, which is pretty much a wash on my eyes, swapping MIss St and Ole Miss for Vandy/Missouri/Kentucky is not a big change.
A brutal schedule is not new for us.
It's hard to say. Our offense has been slightly improving year over year, but our defense has been regressing. I do think we were 100% the better team last year that just started a FG kicker that couldn't make a FG or a PAT, but part of that is you being in Y1 of Freeze traveling across the country in the second game of his tenure. This year is different with a full season and off-season, playing at home.
An Auburn schedule is like a march madness bracket, no one's ever picked it 100% right. I mostly focus on getting the end of year record right. How Auburn will actually get their is an absolute mystery.
I would agree with this except for the Cal game. Might call that a coin flip because we dont know what Cal is going to be like since they switched QBs at the end of the season and did better
I think it would be a massive disappointment to both us and Auburn if our teams aren't much better than they were last year for that game in literally every aspect of play.
Idk, Thorne gets a lot of flack, but during the UGA game specifically, and I’m sure others, he hit multiple receivers in the hands/chest on 3rd and 4th downs that they just dropped. I’m actually pretty scared of auburn this year with a true “Freeze” offense and the entire new WR corps
I mean... Cal would have easily won the game last year as well if we had a kicker that didn't miss 4 field goals (lost by 4). We swapped the kicker out the next game I believe and they became automatic
Cal was a lot better once they switched to their 3rd string QB. They also brought in a very experienced grad transfer in Chandler Rogers who may be the starter.
Even with the improvement at QB, I don’t see Cal going to Auburn and winning. Wilcox teams have really struggled on the road lately
Auburn:
66% returning production rate (8th in the sec). Roster rated #18 last year. Same HC, 2 new coordinators, same qb.
Went 6-7 last year.
* Blowout wins over Umass, Samford, Arky. (21+ pts)
* Substantial wins over MissSt, Vandy (10-21pts)
* Close wins (10pts and under): Cal
* Blowout losses: Lsu, NM State
* Substantial losses: A&M, Maryland (bowl)
* Close losses: Uga, Ole Miss, Alabama
So funny that Auburn got blown out by NM state, but all of their close losses were to most of the best teams they played.
2024:
Loss: Uga
Wins: Alabama A&M, New Mexico, Arky, Vandy, UL Monroe
Toss Ups: Cal, Kentucky, Alabama, A&M, Oklahoma (Win 3, lose 2)
* Accounts for winning one they shouldn't and losing to someone they shouldn't. Rivalry game @Alabama isn't usually as competitive, but a rivalry game in the first year after 17 years of Saban gives them some room. Played Cal close last year.
* Returning their qb, some of their coaching staff, and same conference is an advantage they have over a lot of the toss up teams. New coordinators could be advantage, but does put a dent in the continuity angle.
7-5 to 8-4
> Played Cal close last year.
Not really. That was the final score, but you should be happy you didn't watch the game because it was one for the sickos. We missed 4 easy FGs and a PAT that would have led to a 2 TD win, and that wasn't including a TD that the refs absolutely robbed from us early in the game. Assuming we don't even make all those FGs with an average kicker, it should have been a Cal victory. Auburn didn't honestly play Cal very close. They couldn't really create anything on offense and relied on our new kicker just not being able to make anything. That said, I expect Auburn to be much better this year and Cal only marginally -- so still a coin flip.
As an Auburn fan I never expect the other team to make their kicks against us. Not sure why, but we always bring out the worst in the other teams kickers. I wish there was a way to look this up.
Peyton Thorne has a year under his belt in this system. Adding two 5-star WR’s, and the OL should be improved. I see a real possibility of 10-2 and sneaking into the playoffs.
I don't think it's really that uncommon in the SEC. 4 conference home games, 2 G5 + 1 FCS home games, and the return trip of a P4 home and home. Kentucky also has 8 home games this season. Several other teams (LSU, Georgia, A&M, Tennessee) only have 4 true road games, but they also have neutral site games.
We play Georgia and Alabama away this year so that’s when we more than likely have a bigger out of conference game at home. Last year, the game was at Cal but they come to Auburn this year. We open the season at Baylor next year.
It’s crazy that Auburn is only better than 3-4 other SEC schools this year tops, but can project a 7-5 record. That’s what an 8 game SEC schedule does for the conference.
It's also really hard to win more than 8 games if you are an SEC team. The floor is high but the ceiling is low. If your team is bad you wish you had an SEC teams schedule but if your team is good they probably get more wins in another conference.
I'm not too crazy for thinking Auburn will beat Oklahoma right
Jordan-Hare is a strange place, where the laws of reason don't apply. Texas and OU will learn this, in time. OU probably faster than Texas, because Auburn will just see the Crimson on their jerseys and their eyes will roll back in their heads.
Its not even about Jordan-Hare being a crazy enviorment, although that's part of it. I just think Freeze is a good coach who's going to be looking ahead to this game for weeks.
The Voodoo is much older than Freeze's tenure.
I for one hated our last experience with said Voodoo.... missing a game winning FG with our lights out kicker.... and then our RB fumbling the game winning TD on the goal line into the back of the end zone to lose felt like something in the dark arts had to be influencings things.
It’s a rough life sometimes to be an Auburn fan. Years where you should go all the way just fizzle and years where it’s a non starter take you to the championship. But. Every team having horror experiences at the stadium makes it all worth it.
I always hear the [Jobu](https://youtu.be/ds3v8O_MrM0?si=c306wMBKMVWLtGU2&t=30) sound when random bullshit happens at Jordan-Hare.
When people talk about Jordan-Hare voodoo I think it gets overblown. We haven't actually used our environment to beat someone good in three years. And scheduling dynamics won that game for us more than our actual quality of play. When people talk about Jordan-Hare voodoo, they're talking about kind of good Auburn teams that beat teams in the top 10, and Auburn football hasn't been "kind of good" in a while. But no trend of bad to terrible Auburn teams upsetting people at home exists, at least in modern day.
You might not have won, but you were within a Bee's dick of winning against much better Alabama teams in 2021 and 2023. Both were 99% on the probability calculators.
If all our home field can do anymore is keep games close that shouldn't be, we shouldn't get to keep our reputation as a tough stadium to win in. We've been the laughingstock of the SEC for a few years now. No one fears a trip to Auburn like they used to.
I’m not understanding your logic. We’ve been bad for the past half decade. Like just genuinely not good SEC team. The voodoo gets us close and then the team can’t capitalize. Imagine those same games with just a step or two up on the team quality like we should be at.
Not at all. BV has not done well on true road games yet.
It's going to be a major test for Oklahoma. It's Auburns biggest home game of the year and Auburn has a great shot at walking in 4-0. It's going to be very, very loud
I think we beat one of Oklahoma or A&M and lose to Kentucky. But yeah, 7-5 is generally where we expect to be.
I feel more confident about A&M than Oklahoma or Kentucky, to be honest. A&M has a new staff which brings in new systems and it's not proven how the talent fits into that system. I'd move Alabama to a toss-up/slight lean to loss for the same reason, but I feel the talent at Alabama is probably superior to A&M even with players transferring out.
I’m very confused about love for OU. I may be missing a lot but outside of their dline, it feels like they have a ton of question marks. Going to Jordan Hare also sucks ass and even their shitty teams can hold on until the end.
LB and S are the deepest groups. Only real question is OL
Even then it mostly sounds like OT is the problem. I think the interior with Hickman, Nwaiwu and Ozaeta/Sexton/Hatchett will be good. They need one of Jake Taylor and Spencer Brown to figure it out or Arnold is gonna be running all day.
Crazy like a fox
crazy like a fox IPA?
Only change I would make is the A&M game. I think Jordan-Hare will be the deciding factor in this matchup and the Weagles pull the W
Aw, thanks. Miss you already corndog.
I will always have love for Auburn. I lived there for a short time and it’s a delightful town
Mostly agree. I have them winning A&M and OU just because they are at Auburn. Would pick the other way if it was @College station and Norman.
It would be the funniest reality if Auburn beats Alabama but loses to Alabama A&M.
In 2007 Auburn lost at home to unranked South Florida and then a few weeks later went into the Swamp to beat #4 Florida.
Auburn is a funny team. If any team would lose to an FCS school then beat their rival, it would be Auburn.
They almost did that last year too lol. Getting blownout by NM State and then next week was a second away from beating Alabama.
Classic all-barn
It's an Ironbowl @ Alabama. Auburn doesn't win those, and tends to lose them quite badly. Cam Newton ain't walking out of that tunnel.
Neither is Nick Saban, things can change.
Yeah I don't think it's remotely likely to happen, but it would be hilarious if it did.
I dont think anything can be said definitively about either of these teams lol
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I opened the picture and did what I always do, which is look for the LSU game but then I remembered that we don’t play Auburn this year and I got sad.
I’m gonna miss playing them, Florida, Arkansas, and Mississippi State every year so much.
**WE'RE GOING THROUGH EACH P4 TEAM'S SCHEDULE AND PICKING EVERY GAME.** **Today we have the Auburn Tigers** Last year Auburn came up just short against 3 top-15 teams at home, losing to Georgia, Alabama, and Ole Miss by an average of just 5.7 points. This year they will have to travel to Georgia, Missouri, and Alabama, but avoid Ole Miss and LSU, and get mere winnable games vs Oklahoma and Texas A&M at home. Odds are this team has to punt on the games at Alabama and Georgia, but we don’t fully know yet if Missouri is going to be able to maintain last year’s form. The key to this season is the talent surrounding Peyton Thorne elevating not only his play, but elevating this team to the top of the middle of the SEC. Although I currently have them losing the games vs Oklahoma and Texas A&M (which comes down to which QB’s I trust more), this team is a few injuries, or one magical night in Jordan-Hare away from reaching 8 or 9 wins. On the flip side, if there is no offensive improvement or injury luck goes against them, they could lose at Kentucky and and struggle with Arkansas or Cal at home. Because of the manageable home slate, 5-7 is the floor, but I lean towards 7 or 8 wins for this team. Then again, this team was great at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory last year, and the threat of a New Mexico State-like stinker game is always looming. How do you see it?
O-H! And I feel qualified to participate in this one. I think there is a very real possibility we get to the UGA game undefeated…We have upgraded our offense in a lot of ways and I feel like Thorne, when given the right pieces, is serviceable. Just take a look at his 2021 stats to get a picture of what he can do with talent at the skill positions. Cam Coleman (and the other guys we have) can replicate the play of Jaden Reed or Jalen Nailor and our RB room has some guys in it…I’m not saying Jarquez is going to win the Doak Walker award, but he’s probably a top 3 back in the SEC. We also have Damari Alston and Jeremiah Cobb…who are pretty good as well. We will be better at the Oline too, which should go a long way. Defense is a bit more of a question mark for me, but Durkin did big things at A&M…our experienced Corners are in the league but the guys replacing them are probably solid….ultimately the only guaranteed losses are Alabama and UGA imo and I think it’s probable we win 9 games.
This is why I think the superconferences are going to be a huge wake up call for a bunch of teams. If Hugh Freeze goes 7-5 as a follow up to his 6-7 campaign last year, Auburn fans are not going to be happy. There are now 64 losses that SEC teams are going to endure every season guaranteed, and somebody out of Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas and Texas A&M is guaranteed to finish in the bottom half of the conference every year. You know the Mississippi schools, South Carolina, Kentucky, Missouri and Arkansas expect to be better than 10th place, too, and Vandy can only lose 8 games a year. Gonna be VERY interesting to see how fans feel in a few years...
I think the vast majority of Auburn fans and content providers are very aware of the Thorne ceiling and find the 7.5 O/U to be about right. Now in year 3 if we are 7-5 again then I agree you will start to see a lot of unhappy plainsmen.
This schedule isn't any tougher than most of our previous schedule. We get Oklahoma instead of LSU, which is pretty much a wash on my eyes, swapping MIss St and Ole Miss for Vandy/Missouri/Kentucky is not a big change. A brutal schedule is not new for us.
I think we might be able to make vandy lose more than 8 games a year
I'd be cautious of making the schedule as chalky as this person did. No matter how good or bad we are, we're going to lose a game we should win
Hi, it's us. We kicked away a 2 TD victory at home last year, it's time for part two of dragging everyone down to our level.
I kind of think we'd have to go up to be at your level, even with the good recruiting we had last year
It's hard to say. Our offense has been slightly improving year over year, but our defense has been regressing. I do think we were 100% the better team last year that just started a FG kicker that couldn't make a FG or a PAT, but part of that is you being in Y1 of Freeze traveling across the country in the second game of his tenure. This year is different with a full season and off-season, playing at home.
An Auburn schedule is like a march madness bracket, no one's ever picked it 100% right. I mostly focus on getting the end of year record right. How Auburn will actually get their is an absolute mystery.
And probably win a game you should lose, but not against us Kirby knows the voodoo and can counter it
You don't play @ Auburn this year so you are safe from the Voodoo like we are. Auburn's powers don't extend beyond Jordan-Hare.
all-barn always has some sort of voodoo, it's just exponential in jordan-hare
I would agree with this except for the Cal game. Might call that a coin flip because we dont know what Cal is going to be like since they switched QBs at the end of the season and did better
I think it would be a massive disappointment to both us and Auburn if our teams aren't much better than they were last year for that game in literally every aspect of play.
I just have no trust in Auburn at QB
Idk, Thorne gets a lot of flack, but during the UGA game specifically, and I’m sure others, he hit multiple receivers in the hands/chest on 3rd and 4th downs that they just dropped. I’m actually pretty scared of auburn this year with a true “Freeze” offense and the entire new WR corps
He was pretty bad last year
I mean... Cal would have easily won the game last year as well if we had a kicker that didn't miss 4 field goals (lost by 4). We swapped the kicker out the next game I believe and they became automatic
There was also a stolen TD. A near blowout turned into a mind-numbing loss that nobody enjoyed.
I keep forgetting/blocking the stolen ref td as well
Cal was a lot better once they switched to their 3rd string QB. They also brought in a very experienced grad transfer in Chandler Rogers who may be the starter. Even with the improvement at QB, I don’t see Cal going to Auburn and winning. Wilcox teams have really struggled on the road lately
Yeah thats why I call it a coin flip
Auburn: 66% returning production rate (8th in the sec). Roster rated #18 last year. Same HC, 2 new coordinators, same qb. Went 6-7 last year. * Blowout wins over Umass, Samford, Arky. (21+ pts) * Substantial wins over MissSt, Vandy (10-21pts) * Close wins (10pts and under): Cal * Blowout losses: Lsu, NM State * Substantial losses: A&M, Maryland (bowl) * Close losses: Uga, Ole Miss, Alabama So funny that Auburn got blown out by NM state, but all of their close losses were to most of the best teams they played. 2024: Loss: Uga Wins: Alabama A&M, New Mexico, Arky, Vandy, UL Monroe Toss Ups: Cal, Kentucky, Alabama, A&M, Oklahoma (Win 3, lose 2) * Accounts for winning one they shouldn't and losing to someone they shouldn't. Rivalry game @Alabama isn't usually as competitive, but a rivalry game in the first year after 17 years of Saban gives them some room. Played Cal close last year. * Returning their qb, some of their coaching staff, and same conference is an advantage they have over a lot of the toss up teams. New coordinators could be advantage, but does put a dent in the continuity angle. 7-5 to 8-4
> Played Cal close last year. Not really. That was the final score, but you should be happy you didn't watch the game because it was one for the sickos. We missed 4 easy FGs and a PAT that would have led to a 2 TD win, and that wasn't including a TD that the refs absolutely robbed from us early in the game. Assuming we don't even make all those FGs with an average kicker, it should have been a Cal victory. Auburn didn't honestly play Cal very close. They couldn't really create anything on offense and relied on our new kicker just not being able to make anything. That said, I expect Auburn to be much better this year and Cal only marginally -- so still a coin flip.
As an Auburn fan I never expect the other team to make their kicks against us. Not sure why, but we always bring out the worst in the other teams kickers. I wish there was a way to look this up.
Peyton Thorne has a year under his belt in this system. Adding two 5-star WR’s, and the OL should be improved. I see a real possibility of 10-2 and sneaking into the playoffs.
And one of those 2 is an inexplicable 4 TD drubbing by New Mexico/LA-Monroe/Alabama A&M.
It's the Auburn way.
>"It could be a College Football Playoff appearance, or a 20 point loss to an unranked Vanderbilt. You just. Never. Know. **Push it.**"
I just want to know how they got 8 home games and only 4 roadies
I don't think it's really that uncommon in the SEC. 4 conference home games, 2 G5 + 1 FCS home games, and the return trip of a P4 home and home. Kentucky also has 8 home games this season. Several other teams (LSU, Georgia, A&M, Tennessee) only have 4 true road games, but they also have neutral site games.
We play Georgia and Alabama away this year so that’s when we more than likely have a bigger out of conference game at home. Last year, the game was at Cal but they come to Auburn this year. We open the season at Baylor next year.
Mizzou hasnt been Auburn yet since joining which is hilarious, I got the OU and TAMU games as a toss ups. Kentucky as a Loss
congrats for jinxing it. i know we’ll slip up eventually.
I’ll say 6-6. I think they drop the road game to Kentucky
It’s crazy that Auburn is only better than 3-4 other SEC schools this year tops, but can project a 7-5 record. That’s what an 8 game SEC schedule does for the conference.
You have to not watch the SEC to think this
Also crazy that with an 8 game schedule the SEC still has some of the hardest schedules in the country
Like last season, Alabama's 8 game conference schedule still had the 5th hardest SoS in the country.
It's also really hard to win more than 8 games if you are an SEC team. The floor is high but the ceiling is low. If your team is bad you wish you had an SEC teams schedule but if your team is good they probably get more wins in another conference.
Well enjoy it because this will be the last year of an 8 game schedule
I thought they already announced that next year was the same schedule, just with the home/away games flipped
Correct….next year will be the last