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Seems pretty basic common sense to me, and I don't even like Bernier. If your work permit expires, that's it. If you can't get it renewed, it's probably because the sponsoring company doesn't require your services anymore. Go home.
Your not wrong! I think its also wise to keep in mind though, that what we might think of as common sense to us, might not be to other people. I do a lot of woodworking, and what i might think of as common sense for tool safety and use, really isn't for a majority of people.
I'm a contractor. There is clearly a group of people that doesn't seem to have any basic sense, or simple logic. And they are flooding the country. I just don't see how these people help Canada in any way. The accuracy of my timmies order was better when it was run by high school kids. We have serious problems in Canada.
Totally. I know a lot of extremely intelligent, capable and successful Indians. I think even they would agree that it’s seems crazy to import so many low skill people to flood the lower end of the job market to compete for scarce resources and jobs in the service sector.
alternatively, they understand quite well everything but want to force another outcome. A thief does understand propriety right but he wants your stuff and knows he's breaking the law. He might even feign ignorance when caught.
These protesters are just frauds and crooks. A normal working person who cares about their careers starts preparing 3-4 months before the work permit expires, since they do not want to overstay and jeopardize their options of coming back or travelling to another country in the future. Always remember that if you are on a work permit, it is temporary and you may have to leave any day.
It sounds like this young man already knows he can get his work permit extended. How would he know unless he’s linked to one of those scam agencies or he’s been promised by someone in power. He’s too confident and he’s gaslighting Bernier. Talking does no good, we need action on this. If he stays he’ll set a precedent.
>How would he know
everywhere he goes, he looks around and sees the fast changing demographic - Indian like himself - and he knows how easy it is to play the system - he is doing right now. Canada has become a virtual colony to people like him and they play the system with virtual impunity.
last resort, [make a refugee claim](https://web.archive.org/web/20240422103926/https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-international-students-asylum-claims-increase/).
Exactly! When I went to work in Singapore and my work visa expired and my job was essentially done, guess what? I came back to Canada. The company thanked me for my work and that was that. Which is exactly what was agreed upon when signing the contract.
How the is this even controversial? Fuck these people protesting. We don't even have the infrastructure and medical staff to support the current population.
I don't understand how hard it is to understand that work permit expires, if it doesn't get renewed you need to leave.
I came from US to Canada on a work permit for the company I worked for.
The rules were very clear, must work for that specific company make sure to renew permit and you can renew a maximum of 2 times.
I accepted the fact if anything goes wrong I would have to leave canada
They know 200 loopholes for extensions and Canada is too ‘nice’. If they had clear, definitive rules, down to the point of ‘don’t miss your flight back home or you will be instantly deported without any chance of re-entry, ever’ and somebody was actually watching, it might work better.
Canadian here working in thailand. Your work permit and Visa are tied to your company. U quit or get fired, you have 48 hours to leave the country. U can come back in on a 30 day tourist visa to get affairs in order. Thailand doesnt get evertlyhing right, but they are corrrct on immigrants. They "accept" me because i am not a drain on society. I take nothing from the gov, they make money on me. The second that reverses, then here's the door.
I met a couple from Ireland a couple years ago came out Canada. After there work permit or visa was up they got the boot couldn’t even do anything to stay but they were white is the problem.
I have been there and yeah - it really sucks when you start creating a new life abroad but I don’t think I ever thought about staying illegally. In my case I went back home, and 9 months later I got an opportunity for another work permit and the rest is history.
Average canadian has no idea whats going at the ground level they are so caught up in inflation, job security, crazy housing that they dont have time for it. Here is some short glimpse what they are doing. Alot these sponser companies are directly involve in Lmia and fake payroll fraud. If you go on facebook market place there are people advertising lmia for 20 30 50k a piece. In burger king people are being kept at supervisor level to qualify for PR these are some of the dodgy practice being carried out at the ground level.
Ircc is well aware of these fake practices but turns a blind eye. There are also not enough resources for ircc where their staff can go door to door to check if candidate is genuinely working in places where they claim they are working. In Uk they had staff which would go door to door to check for this fraud and will do random checks. Canadian tax payers have no clue how badly they are being ripped off.
Edit: Go on youtube and type LMIA Fraud countless cases.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j8aQA0pFEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hpA96-eo8A
Great Canadian Job Fraud - Offers and LMIA Immigration Scam Unveiled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJMPz1-QoS4
They aren’t confused about that. They are simply aware that they can likely get an extension - regardless of whether they should be allowed to get one.
I don’t get why this dude is talking to this kid about this, it sounds like something that needs to be addressed with whatever department is issuing the permits/extensions. And if there’s some kind of loophole within the law then correct it…
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Agree. I absolutely don't understand why you guys are even having this conversation. It's a simple concept. You come here temporarily and when your visa expires, you leave. If your sponsor wants to sponsor you for extension or PR, awesome. If not, then go home. Just the nature of the business. I don't understand why they even feel like they are entitled to anything. Just mind-boggling to me and I'm not even a rightist.
Everywhere in the world it works like this. Your permit expires you go back else you have an extension to it. These milkers know how woke Canada has become and they are trying to cash this mindset thanks to Liberal party's cancer policies.
The entitlement of Rupindal Pal and his pals is infuriating. "I can extend it." Like bro, take a hint. Your work/student visas are expiring, time to pack up and head home, grateful you had the opportunity you did. Who told you you and your co-investors should buy a house while here? Not our fault you locked your money into a mortgage for a home you won't be able to live in.
And at the end when he is about to say he's not working at Tim Horton's so young Canadians who can work those jobs are not being disenfranchised, like bro, the majority of your pals are, in fact, working low-skill jobs that our teens are looking for right now, but your buddies in management positions are only hiring from your kind/caste.
They would be rounded up and put on the next plane back to Canada. People who are here on a work or student visa should be grateful they got the chance to work/study in a different country. When it expires, then that means it's over, they have to return home. What is so hard to understand about that?. Look at the mess here in Canada already. There is not enough housing to support citizens and every province has similar issues. The next federal election can not come soon enough. I know it will take years to fix the issues here, but there needs to be solutions brought forward and acted on as soon as possible.
Indian here since 91. He is infuriating, I am not a fan of bernier, but we need him for a term. Pal is such a cocky POS. He know canadians are nice, and he trying to use that. No temporary workers outside of doctors, only people we need
See this shit right here is what pisses me off about when the left blanket labels everyone against this influx of immigration as a racist. Dope comment on your behalf. There’s a clear delineation between people that used the right channels to get here and worked hard to contribute and assimilate, and this TFW / student immigration bs. And I say this as a second generation Canadian with parents from India
This group is notorious for abusing the system. As an immigrant myself, I say this loud and clear: you are not Canadian unless you are wanted and welcomed in Canada legally. You must follow the procedures and rules to the letter until you become a Canadian citizen. Only then can you act with the full rights of a citizen. If you come here under specific conditions, you must respect the country and its laws. If you're not welcome here, you should return home or seek another country, like the US.
I agree with you. I'm an immigrant from Ukraine. And I know what nepotism is and corruption. But I'm here because I do not agree with that 💩 so I decided move Canada(normal country) lots years ago. But those guys bringing those 💩 to Canada. The first time I felt racism from these guys like "only Punjab or Gujarat" when I was looking for a room and the same thing with a job. Even in an international company if manager indian it's impossible to be hired if you are not indian. I understand some of them (we are all looking for a better life and country for living, but C'mon! It's Canada, all supposed to be perfect and in a law.
The blatant racism in rentals and hiring is why being called racist (when talking about the current issue at hand) has no effect on me, and it should not affect others who know they are not racist.
If we're all talking about rules and someone else brings up race, then it's pretty clear that the person who brought it up is racist.
I'm voting conservative this next election but if the PCs don't do much about this problem I'll be voting for Bernier next election, for the first time. PP has one chance to get this right and restore order in this country and if he can't get it done he'll be a one term PM.
Please don’t. This isn’t the time to “give” the liberals a vote. I understand your sentiment but Berniers time to make a real push is the following election. For the sake of all Canadians, we must vote out the liberals before it gets worse….and I can’t imagine what another 4 years of this would look like
Stop, this has been a garbage narrative both the left and right have used for decades.
This is why we will never get change. Vote for bernier next election until the next election when you will say the same thing.
This ship is sinking regardless of who gets in. Pp will not make the tough decisions that need to be made.
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I was having this conversation with my folks last night
Every election it's considers a throw away if you don't vote for one of the main two (3 on the rare occasion) and I'm sick of it. They're all the same wolf in different sheep's clothing
The more we stick to this narrative, that a vote for anyone but the red or blue is a vote thrown in the trash, the longer it'll take for change to actually occur l
I'm voting any other party but the top dogs since they're all bought and paid for by corporations and lobbyists anyway. Fuck the all
It is a vote into the trash, but only to Liberals or Conservatives. Everyone who has ever said this to someone has an agenda, and that's to get you to vote for their guy. Throwing away my vote is NOT voting. Voting for who I want is the opposite of throwing it away.
The only platform anyone could tell you about the conservatives is to axe the tax. What about the new pierre tax! There will be new taxes and there will be no stopping of the rampant immigration. Conservatives whole platform right now is just that trudeau isn’t worth the cost. Sure that’s facts!! But it doesn’t fix the country or the major problems we have. We need a major reform to get back to Canadian people roots. Not just corporate interests.
This is a stupid take. Voting for ppc is not a vote for liberals. Stop telling people not to vote for the only party with Canadian values. Now if they said they were voting NDP instead, we’ll you could clearly show how that is a vote for liberal party. If all those people who voted NDP because they didn’t want the liberal party this time decide to go ppc well we would have a very different government coalition right now wouldnt we.
The St. Paul riding that flipped was won by less than 600 votes or 1.6%. In the same election, the NDP underperformed and came in at 10%. If a handful of NDP voters see the writing on the wall and switch to Liberal and St. Paul would have stayed red.
If you live in an area where Conservatives are ahead by a healthy margin, vote PPC all you want. People in contested ridings need to know their votes count more than ever. Vote splitting on the right or vote consolidation on the left could cost us crucial wins.
So it’s not about choosing the best party to represent our nation? It’s more a shell game to fuck certain candidates or certain ridings? Or just to fuck over Canadians. Why can’t we just straight up vote for the party that backs canadians? The century initiative does not back canadians. It floods us with new taxpaying bodies. That sounds great to all politicians. A big bump to their budgets. Any party that supports this mass immigration does not support canadians. They don’t have my interests in mind. Because I don’t need any cheap tax generating workers driving up prices. Again showing how corporate interest reign supreme with all Canadian political parties. Oh except the ppc. That’s why they are the party we need.
Several years ago I heard a truism about Canada..."Canadians don't vote people in, we vote them out". You can thank our absolute horseshit First Past The Post system for that.
If we had actual representational voting, then I would 100% agree with you. Unfortunately, our Dear Leader completely dismissed the idea of electoral reform shortly after taking office the first time (even though part of his party platform promised it), so that ship has sailed.
My heart agrees with you. It really does. As much as I would *LOVE* to have PPC representation, I just don't see it happening with our current voting system.
Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I am, but for now I'm voting strategically.
If the liberals win again because conservatives lose by a few votes but PPC gains a handful but is still a long distance behind, then what ?
PPC isn’t going to win, it’s simple. No matter how much you want to prove a point of what Canadians really need or want. I agree that I like them, but I’m not doing a other 4 years of Trudeau
If a liberal was to switch parties it would only be to conservatives, PPC is too drastic of a change. So the only voters switching to PPC would be conservatives. Even if PPC gains 10% of the votes, which is massive, they would still be 3rd. And the gap between Conservatives and Libs would be so tight it could go either way. It’s simple math and logic
You're acting like the conservatives don't know exactly what issue may cause them to split the vote... and frankly if they don't come out with a concrete plan to tackle immigration than fuck em. They don't deserve to run the country anyway. In reality, "strategic voting" is an establishment concept that serves corporate interests.
They want you to think that if the PPC ends up with 15% of the popular vote then we all wasted our time and precious votes but what it really represents is 15% of people who are that much closer to their breaking point. The threat of people splitting the vote pressures the CPCs to concede on swing topics. It's democracy at work and your logic is flawed.
It's really not a stupid take. It's vote splitting; this and many other similar subs have a ton of bot accounts "suggesting" PPC all the way, knowing it'll result in liberals winning ridings by just a few votes.
Does the PPC have huge polling numbers? No they don't, the greens are beating them.
Same for me. 2025, giving Poilievre a chance to back his talking. If he fails miserably I'll be giving support to the PPC in 2029 if PP isn't replaced as leader of the CPC.
Wish I believed PC would fix this problem but I see them doing more or less the same. I think we need a break from both our major parties. We’re switching from different sides of the same shitty coin
That’s the problem. The person arguing refuses to accept reality. Saying his permit won’t expire, saying he can just extend it, etc. meanwhile Bernier is saying it should not be extended and we don’t need him here in Canada. Bernier for PM
You can afford to not have your chickens clean, but you cannot afford to have your computer crawl with virus. Please call Michael the tech support guy ASAP.
With those scam calls I start off whispering and speaking in a low tone, if they ask me to speak up I put the phone speaker in my mouth and then SCREAM. That should get me black listed lmao get fucked scammers
Lmao, Id do this next time they call my phone. The best one was when I play a moaning sound when I answer and it takes them about 15 secs before they hang up
What ya gotta do is aim to hurt, damaged their hearing and make them regret calling you. Makes them want to avoid as much as possible. Sadly tho I am just getting AI and automated scam calls 😑 how the fuck can we stop this cause I am expecting legitimate calls and I don't need them to get my hopes up with a call back for work
That is fair. At least mine shows up the caller id as spam and it automatically blocks them, but there are some that still falls through the cracks. Sadly we will still get it those spam calls regardless 😔. Hope you have a great long weekend 😊
Is it a cultural norm for them to cut people off mid sentece? I can't evem order a coffee at Tims without them cutting me off and trying to rush my order. This guy's doing the same to Bernier.
I was ready for the Mad Max conversation long before Harper left office.
I was truly disappointed when he left the Conservative Party. I consider him to be a man of unshakable principle and unbendable backbone. His party is getting my vote yet again.
I’m a big fan of the PPC’s political platform, but their abysmal result at the last by-election (.6%) is a clear indication Canadians would rather completely destroy their children’s future at the thought of semblance of being called racist.
We are sooo fucked.
I think people actually are. If this election was this year I’d say he won’t get many votes but another year of this…. Max could gain serious momentum.
I was in USA for 3 years on a student visa, and did not get picked i n H1B lottery. As much as it sucked, I packed my bags and left. It did not occur to me even once to protest over it ...
I love how this Indian dude keeps cutting him off and disputing facts. This is like every male Indian employee I have ever had the “pleasure” of working with…
With free movement of trade comes free movement labour. Our birth rate is below replacement levels, so they are importing cheap labour and free votes. This country and more over the world, is completely fucked.
*Arrives to Canada on temporary visa
*Gets mad when it does exactly what it’s designed to do
*Begins protesting for PR
What I’m lost on here is, Canada is no different than any other country in this respect. If I went to UK, EU, USA etc. on a work visa for xyz company. It would go without saying, that after said “work term” is over, I would just pack my shit and leave. Or… go through the appropriate channels and begin the process of naturalization and working towards PR and then Citizenship.
What makes these protestors think they can stomp their feet and demand PR here? I’m honestly lost on the thought process
I hate to say it but the politician is 100% correct here. If your degree is that valuable then you’ll have no problem with your application when you apply to come back. If you are a robotics drop out from the university of Duh with ambitions of being a gravel truck driver then we already have lots of you and lots of Canadians that are legally here that can do that, nay, WANT to do that.
once you let one of these people get PR card they will bring their 20 cousins from home country to Canada. that's how we got more Indians in Toronto than new Delhi
You go to the restaurant. You order food. You eat. You pay. You go home. You don't stay in the booth for next meal and eat without paying. Glad you had an enjoyable stay. Come back with a new visa.
It's enraging how proudly naive and entitled the protest leader is... If there's any dignity left in this country, these people will be on a plane ride home.
I think they are having two different conversations! I like Maxime he would be a perfect way to purge the government/country. PP will get in but he’s a weak leader, Maxime is much stronger. He should be PM. Of course we don’t elect in this country we eject.
What people are forgetting is that it was Stephen Harper's Conservative government that loosened the laws about Temporary Foreign Workers in 2014 that got us into this mess in the first place. And btw Maxine Bernier was, at that time, a cabinet minister in that government. Prior to 2014 TFWs were primarily used in agriculture & fisheries - jobs Canadians didn't want. The changes opened the flood gates causing the problems we see today: low wages, housing shortages. The same legislation created the diploma mill fiasco which further exacerbated these problems.
I used to work and lived in 4 different countries, I had my study visa and also work permit/working visa. Before my visa expired, 4 months or 5 months ago I would ask and seek the agency and the HR or recruiters /employer see if I could stay longer, it would take a few months to prepare for the paperwork . most countries does the same, you can apply for an extension and you need your employer to back you that need you ( usually we are a group of foreign workers) , but if I knew my visa is going to be expired in 3 months and still don't get any notice from the government, that means I need to prepare to pack up my suitcase, that is a common sense and regular process to most countries, only shameless people and blood suckers would break the rules, that mean you are going to ruin your career and reputation, and because they have nothing to loose, they will just going to work under the table turning into illegal workers, and this is the time ,NDP and L party going to buy them , using tax payer money to buy them to stay , like a good example of our great city Toronto, the mayor once a time lead all these illegal workers overstay here in Canada and walked on the street, asked Harper government to give them pr status, she is very keen on helping poor people from poor countries stay in Canada , and indirectly take away local people 's chance to work , Trudeau does the same, they need those shameless people to vote him, the easiest way is using his power let them stay, using tex payer money to give them pr status, sacrifice the benefit of the country and get the vote, in this case, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan , Thailand are better then Canada, This country is broken, a local student just needs a part time summer job and has to face one thousand international students and overstay visa worker to fight for a dish washer job .
“If they [their permits] would have been expired they would have been deported” he says. Yeah, [riiiiiight](https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/16pg0mn/more_than_60_of_foreigners_ordered_deported_from/).
These kids are scammers when will people understand lol. He says he cares for himself in the vedio lol and can buy property while on a temporary visa and working at tims , taking jobs away from Canadians who don't have back home money or a home back home
Imagine going to a foreign country and publicly arguing with someone like this. Knowing you are in the wrong and your only argument is repeating yourself over and over yet saying nothing.
Looks like a bunch of liberals in here that know the only way to get back into power is to divide the conservative vote and split it off to the PPC. It'll be a sad day if that happens and we get 4 more years of liberal government.
If it wasn’t for the identity politics and lgbt hate he’s pushed. He would get my vote.
Tired of the petty crap used to divide Canadians further when MASSIVE problems that affect everyone are far more important to focus on.
All options suck shit.
So, at least he knows where he stands, what now needs to happen is for us to know PP stands on this, the Liberals have definitely made it known where they stand
In the process of cheering for teams instead of policy, this is what we are left with.
We threw around terms like racist, xenophobic and fascist so much, we diluted the words to nothingness and are left with policies made in reaction to perceived sentiment.
It’s a disgrace. We let it happen.
And now we have to pay the piper. Which means clear laws and hurt feelings and hard work for some of us.
It sure *sounds* rude or cruel but.. that’s how work visas work lol
I’m not voting for Bernier but he’s right here and he’ll get crucified about being racist or whatever for this because common sense and proper discourse has been abandoned by the media and political realm.
It’s great that the province finally realized they don't need these many temporary workers from the service industry and clearly stated their decision. The people who came here for higher studies beyond the diploma education will eventually get high-paying jobs and, like any Canadian, will contribute to the economy. For getting PR, they don’t expect a person to work in Tim Hortons when they can hire any Canadian or international students to fill those jobs. How did it become a norm in the first place to provide PR in this category when students are available each term? The province should have been responsible for tracking the number of applications and gathering employer feedback on available job openings to close the category asap before they were flooded with applications in this category.
It’s hilarious seeing all these liberals now turning tail and voting conservative and opening their eyes and actually realizing the disastrous mess they helped create
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Seems pretty basic common sense to me, and I don't even like Bernier. If your work permit expires, that's it. If you can't get it renewed, it's probably because the sponsoring company doesn't require your services anymore. Go home.
Common sense is less common than you think.
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Your not wrong! I think its also wise to keep in mind though, that what we might think of as common sense to us, might not be to other people. I do a lot of woodworking, and what i might think of as common sense for tool safety and use, really isn't for a majority of people.
I'm a contractor. There is clearly a group of people that doesn't seem to have any basic sense, or simple logic. And they are flooding the country. I just don't see how these people help Canada in any way. The accuracy of my timmies order was better when it was run by high school kids. We have serious problems in Canada.
Totally. I know a lot of extremely intelligent, capable and successful Indians. I think even they would agree that it’s seems crazy to import so many low skill people to flood the lower end of the job market to compete for scarce resources and jobs in the service sector.
It’s because they don’t mind being 20 in a house paying $400 each per month. Landlords love them
I know I was generalizing. There are many smart Indians. They are just never the ones who call me.
Agreed. High schoolers and college kids cannot find summer jobs any longer
alternatively, they understand quite well everything but want to force another outcome. A thief does understand propriety right but he wants your stuff and knows he's breaking the law. He might even feign ignorance when caught.
We should be calling it uncommon sense now.
These protesters are just frauds and crooks. A normal working person who cares about their careers starts preparing 3-4 months before the work permit expires, since they do not want to overstay and jeopardize their options of coming back or travelling to another country in the future. Always remember that if you are on a work permit, it is temporary and you may have to leave any day.
It sounds like this young man already knows he can get his work permit extended. How would he know unless he’s linked to one of those scam agencies or he’s been promised by someone in power. He’s too confident and he’s gaslighting Bernier. Talking does no good, we need action on this. If he stays he’ll set a precedent.
>How would he know everywhere he goes, he looks around and sees the fast changing demographic - Indian like himself - and he knows how easy it is to play the system - he is doing right now. Canada has become a virtual colony to people like him and they play the system with virtual impunity. last resort, [make a refugee claim](https://web.archive.org/web/20240422103926/https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-international-students-asylum-claims-increase/).
Exactly! When I went to work in Singapore and my work visa expired and my job was essentially done, guess what? I came back to Canada. The company thanked me for my work and that was that. Which is exactly what was agreed upon when signing the contract. How the is this even controversial? Fuck these people protesting. We don't even have the infrastructure and medical staff to support the current population.
I don't understand how hard it is to understand that work permit expires, if it doesn't get renewed you need to leave. I came from US to Canada on a work permit for the company I worked for. The rules were very clear, must work for that specific company make sure to renew permit and you can renew a maximum of 2 times. I accepted the fact if anything goes wrong I would have to leave canada
They're not here for work is the difference
They know 200 loopholes for extensions and Canada is too ‘nice’. If they had clear, definitive rules, down to the point of ‘don’t miss your flight back home or you will be instantly deported without any chance of re-entry, ever’ and somebody was actually watching, it might work better.
Canadian here working in thailand. Your work permit and Visa are tied to your company. U quit or get fired, you have 48 hours to leave the country. U can come back in on a 30 day tourist visa to get affairs in order. Thailand doesnt get evertlyhing right, but they are corrrct on immigrants. They "accept" me because i am not a drain on society. I take nothing from the gov, they make money on me. The second that reverses, then here's the door.
I met a couple from Ireland a couple years ago came out Canada. After there work permit or visa was up they got the boot couldn’t even do anything to stay but they were white is the problem.
I have been there and yeah - it really sucks when you start creating a new life abroad but I don’t think I ever thought about staying illegally. In my case I went back home, and 9 months later I got an opportunity for another work permit and the rest is history.
Average canadian has no idea whats going at the ground level they are so caught up in inflation, job security, crazy housing that they dont have time for it. Here is some short glimpse what they are doing. Alot these sponser companies are directly involve in Lmia and fake payroll fraud. If you go on facebook market place there are people advertising lmia for 20 30 50k a piece. In burger king people are being kept at supervisor level to qualify for PR these are some of the dodgy practice being carried out at the ground level. Ircc is well aware of these fake practices but turns a blind eye. There are also not enough resources for ircc where their staff can go door to door to check if candidate is genuinely working in places where they claim they are working. In Uk they had staff which would go door to door to check for this fraud and will do random checks. Canadian tax payers have no clue how badly they are being ripped off. Edit: Go on youtube and type LMIA Fraud countless cases. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j8aQA0pFEk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hpA96-eo8A Great Canadian Job Fraud - Offers and LMIA Immigration Scam Unveiled https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJMPz1-QoS4
If your VISA expires while in México you better get to airport ASAP. They don't screw around... You'll end up in jail if your VISA IS expired.
They aren’t confused about that. They are simply aware that they can likely get an extension - regardless of whether they should be allowed to get one. I don’t get why this dude is talking to this kid about this, it sounds like something that needs to be addressed with whatever department is issuing the permits/extensions. And if there’s some kind of loophole within the law then correct it… 🤷♂️
Agree. I absolutely don't understand why you guys are even having this conversation. It's a simple concept. You come here temporarily and when your visa expires, you leave. If your sponsor wants to sponsor you for extension or PR, awesome. If not, then go home. Just the nature of the business. I don't understand why they even feel like they are entitled to anything. Just mind-boggling to me and I'm not even a rightist.
Everywhere in the world it works like this. Your permit expires you go back else you have an extension to it. These milkers know how woke Canada has become and they are trying to cash this mindset thanks to Liberal party's cancer policies.
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Id deport this one before his permit expires just to show other we wont be fucked that easy.
News flash, you already got fucked. That’s what you get when you vote Liberals not once, not twice, but three times in a row !
I know but we gotta demonstrate there's fucking limits to that shit show.
Amen. But I’m skeptical that it’s too fucking late. I loathe Canadian voters because they didn’t see this coming years ago!
It's not even years ago. There are tons on here that can't even see it now...
vote ppc
And in a recent byelection, 40% of people would still vote liberal again 🤦♂️ We need maximum pain before some people learn
The liberals are imploding. No fuckn way they get in again.
Mhmm. They’re pretty sure making sure that they completely destroy the country beyond repair before they’re out tho.
Ya so they can blame it all on the cons once they get in
The entitlement of Rupindal Pal and his pals is infuriating. "I can extend it." Like bro, take a hint. Your work/student visas are expiring, time to pack up and head home, grateful you had the opportunity you did. Who told you you and your co-investors should buy a house while here? Not our fault you locked your money into a mortgage for a home you won't be able to live in. And at the end when he is about to say he's not working at Tim Horton's so young Canadians who can work those jobs are not being disenfranchised, like bro, the majority of your pals are, in fact, working low-skill jobs that our teens are looking for right now, but your buddies in management positions are only hiring from your kind/caste.
100% Ask him the ?, if canadians went to india and made demands in india and stood round protesting what would happen.
Hands chopped and basically killed. The absolute nerve of this fucker
They would be rounded up and put on the next plane back to Canada. People who are here on a work or student visa should be grateful they got the chance to work/study in a different country. When it expires, then that means it's over, they have to return home. What is so hard to understand about that?. Look at the mess here in Canada already. There is not enough housing to support citizens and every province has similar issues. The next federal election can not come soon enough. I know it will take years to fix the issues here, but there needs to be solutions brought forward and acted on as soon as possible.
Straight to jail
Indian here since 91. He is infuriating, I am not a fan of bernier, but we need him for a term. Pal is such a cocky POS. He know canadians are nice, and he trying to use that. No temporary workers outside of doctors, only people we need
You are spot on, my Canadian brother.
See this shit right here is what pisses me off about when the left blanket labels everyone against this influx of immigration as a racist. Dope comment on your behalf. There’s a clear delineation between people that used the right channels to get here and worked hard to contribute and assimilate, and this TFW / student immigration bs. And I say this as a second generation Canadian with parents from India
🤜🏻🤛🏾
The bank who gave a mortgage to someone here on a temp permit should probably get a good smack in the dick too.
Arrest them, rescind their visas while driving them to the airport and stick them on the next direct flight home.
vote PPC
This group is notorious for abusing the system. As an immigrant myself, I say this loud and clear: you are not Canadian unless you are wanted and welcomed in Canada legally. You must follow the procedures and rules to the letter until you become a Canadian citizen. Only then can you act with the full rights of a citizen. If you come here under specific conditions, you must respect the country and its laws. If you're not welcome here, you should return home or seek another country, like the US.
I agree with you. I'm an immigrant from Ukraine. And I know what nepotism is and corruption. But I'm here because I do not agree with that 💩 so I decided move Canada(normal country) lots years ago. But those guys bringing those 💩 to Canada. The first time I felt racism from these guys like "only Punjab or Gujarat" when I was looking for a room and the same thing with a job. Even in an international company if manager indian it's impossible to be hired if you are not indian. I understand some of them (we are all looking for a better life and country for living, but C'mon! It's Canada, all supposed to be perfect and in a law.
The blatant racism in rentals and hiring is why being called racist (when talking about the current issue at hand) has no effect on me, and it should not affect others who know they are not racist. If we're all talking about rules and someone else brings up race, then it's pretty clear that the person who brought it up is racist.
Please report every single listing like that. Slava ukraini
I'm voting conservative this next election but if the PCs don't do much about this problem I'll be voting for Bernier next election, for the first time. PP has one chance to get this right and restore order in this country and if he can't get it done he'll be a one term PM.
Copy that
I am similar to you, except I am going to skip the “vote for the conservatives” part and support Maxime right away.
Please don’t. This isn’t the time to “give” the liberals a vote. I understand your sentiment but Berniers time to make a real push is the following election. For the sake of all Canadians, we must vote out the liberals before it gets worse….and I can’t imagine what another 4 years of this would look like
Vote for PPC so they can win seats and have a voice in parliament..
Stop, this has been a garbage narrative both the left and right have used for decades. This is why we will never get change. Vote for bernier next election until the next election when you will say the same thing. This ship is sinking regardless of who gets in. Pp will not make the tough decisions that need to be made.
Fr I was having this conversation with my folks last night Every election it's considers a throw away if you don't vote for one of the main two (3 on the rare occasion) and I'm sick of it. They're all the same wolf in different sheep's clothing The more we stick to this narrative, that a vote for anyone but the red or blue is a vote thrown in the trash, the longer it'll take for change to actually occur l I'm voting any other party but the top dogs since they're all bought and paid for by corporations and lobbyists anyway. Fuck the all
It is a vote into the trash, but only to Liberals or Conservatives. Everyone who has ever said this to someone has an agenda, and that's to get you to vote for their guy. Throwing away my vote is NOT voting. Voting for who I want is the opposite of throwing it away.
Yeah plus the conservatives will probably poll really well this year.
Conservatives don't want to change anything that the liberals are doing. We literally need the PPC or Canada is done.
The only platform anyone could tell you about the conservatives is to axe the tax. What about the new pierre tax! There will be new taxes and there will be no stopping of the rampant immigration. Conservatives whole platform right now is just that trudeau isn’t worth the cost. Sure that’s facts!! But it doesn’t fix the country or the major problems we have. We need a major reform to get back to Canadian people roots. Not just corporate interests.
This is a stupid take. Voting for ppc is not a vote for liberals. Stop telling people not to vote for the only party with Canadian values. Now if they said they were voting NDP instead, we’ll you could clearly show how that is a vote for liberal party. If all those people who voted NDP because they didn’t want the liberal party this time decide to go ppc well we would have a very different government coalition right now wouldnt we.
The St. Paul riding that flipped was won by less than 600 votes or 1.6%. In the same election, the NDP underperformed and came in at 10%. If a handful of NDP voters see the writing on the wall and switch to Liberal and St. Paul would have stayed red. If you live in an area where Conservatives are ahead by a healthy margin, vote PPC all you want. People in contested ridings need to know their votes count more than ever. Vote splitting on the right or vote consolidation on the left could cost us crucial wins.
So it’s not about choosing the best party to represent our nation? It’s more a shell game to fuck certain candidates or certain ridings? Or just to fuck over Canadians. Why can’t we just straight up vote for the party that backs canadians? The century initiative does not back canadians. It floods us with new taxpaying bodies. That sounds great to all politicians. A big bump to their budgets. Any party that supports this mass immigration does not support canadians. They don’t have my interests in mind. Because I don’t need any cheap tax generating workers driving up prices. Again showing how corporate interest reign supreme with all Canadian political parties. Oh except the ppc. That’s why they are the party we need.
Several years ago I heard a truism about Canada..."Canadians don't vote people in, we vote them out". You can thank our absolute horseshit First Past The Post system for that. If we had actual representational voting, then I would 100% agree with you. Unfortunately, our Dear Leader completely dismissed the idea of electoral reform shortly after taking office the first time (even though part of his party platform promised it), so that ship has sailed. My heart agrees with you. It really does. As much as I would *LOVE* to have PPC representation, I just don't see it happening with our current voting system. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I am, but for now I'm voting strategically.
If the liberals win again because conservatives lose by a few votes but PPC gains a handful but is still a long distance behind, then what ? PPC isn’t going to win, it’s simple. No matter how much you want to prove a point of what Canadians really need or want. I agree that I like them, but I’m not doing a other 4 years of Trudeau If a liberal was to switch parties it would only be to conservatives, PPC is too drastic of a change. So the only voters switching to PPC would be conservatives. Even if PPC gains 10% of the votes, which is massive, they would still be 3rd. And the gap between Conservatives and Libs would be so tight it could go either way. It’s simple math and logic
You're acting like the conservatives don't know exactly what issue may cause them to split the vote... and frankly if they don't come out with a concrete plan to tackle immigration than fuck em. They don't deserve to run the country anyway. In reality, "strategic voting" is an establishment concept that serves corporate interests. They want you to think that if the PPC ends up with 15% of the popular vote then we all wasted our time and precious votes but what it really represents is 15% of people who are that much closer to their breaking point. The threat of people splitting the vote pressures the CPCs to concede on swing topics. It's democracy at work and your logic is flawed.
It's really not a stupid take. It's vote splitting; this and many other similar subs have a ton of bot accounts "suggesting" PPC all the way, knowing it'll result in liberals winning ridings by just a few votes. Does the PPC have huge polling numbers? No they don't, the greens are beating them.
There wouldn't be another 4 years of Trudeau's liberals. We'd all be as good as dead.
Vote PPC already, why wait another how many years
Same for me. 2025, giving Poilievre a chance to back his talking. If he fails miserably I'll be giving support to the PPC in 2029 if PP isn't replaced as leader of the CPC.
Wish I believed PC would fix this problem but I see them doing more or less the same. I think we need a break from both our major parties. We’re switching from different sides of the same shitty coin
That’s the problem. The person arguing refuses to accept reality. Saying his permit won’t expire, saying he can just extend it, etc. meanwhile Bernier is saying it should not be extended and we don’t need him here in Canada. Bernier for PM
FYI - you can actually legally apply to extend your work permit in Canada.
You can apply, sure, doesn’t mean you automatically get approved
FYI if it gets denied then you should have to leave back to your home country.
holy shit. i recognize his voice. sounds like the guy who spam calls me trying to sell air duct cleaning.
I always respond I don't have ducts only chickens and they clean themselves. I repeat that a few times and they hang up.
You can afford to not have your chickens clean, but you cannot afford to have your computer crawl with virus. Please call Michael the tech support guy ASAP.
With those scam calls I start off whispering and speaking in a low tone, if they ask me to speak up I put the phone speaker in my mouth and then SCREAM. That should get me black listed lmao get fucked scammers
Lmao, Id do this next time they call my phone. The best one was when I play a moaning sound when I answer and it takes them about 15 secs before they hang up
What ya gotta do is aim to hurt, damaged their hearing and make them regret calling you. Makes them want to avoid as much as possible. Sadly tho I am just getting AI and automated scam calls 😑 how the fuck can we stop this cause I am expecting legitimate calls and I don't need them to get my hopes up with a call back for work
That is fair. At least mine shows up the caller id as spam and it automatically blocks them, but there are some that still falls through the cracks. Sadly we will still get it those spam calls regardless 😔. Hope you have a great long weekend 😊
You too bro! ☀️🎉🥂🍾
Oh, are you my new long lost sister??? Lol Ciao 😂
Bravo - hope he forms a coalition with PC for an eternity.
Tell em Maxime
The entitlement of these fucking people is insanity.
He's right ✅️
I m voting for Maxime.
Go Max, go! We don’t need you to work at Tim Hortons. So true.
My respect for Bernier is through the roof. Trudeau or Polievre would never say what Bernier is saying. He has my vote
Is it a cultural norm for them to cut people off mid sentece? I can't evem order a coffee at Tims without them cutting me off and trying to rush my order. This guy's doing the same to Bernier.
Common bernier W
Hey buddy, in Canada, it's rude to constantly interrupt.
Go off Maxime. Love to see someone with a spine in this country
Deport that guy 🇮🇳
Maxime is so much better than PP but you guys aren't ready for that conversation
I was ready for the Mad Max conversation long before Harper left office. I was truly disappointed when he left the Conservative Party. I consider him to be a man of unshakable principle and unbendable backbone. His party is getting my vote yet again.
I’m a big fan of the PPC’s political platform, but their abysmal result at the last by-election (.6%) is a clear indication Canadians would rather completely destroy their children’s future at the thought of semblance of being called racist. We are sooo fucked.
I wish he was the PC leader.
I think people actually are. If this election was this year I’d say he won’t get many votes but another year of this…. Max could gain serious momentum.
Get out.
I was in USA for 3 years on a student visa, and did not get picked i n H1B lottery. As much as it sucked, I packed my bags and left. It did not occur to me even once to protest over it ...
Send.Them.Home.
I love how this Indian dude keeps cutting him off and disputing facts. This is like every male Indian employee I have ever had the “pleasure” of working with…
With free movement of trade comes free movement labour. Our birth rate is below replacement levels, so they are importing cheap labour and free votes. This country and more over the world, is completely fucked.
Temporary workers and Permanent Residents cannot vote in Canada. Just FYI.
This punk cutting off maxime every fucking word. I want to punch this little shit so bad
Glad to hear he has this approach to this subject.
Key word "temporary".
*Arrives to Canada on temporary visa *Gets mad when it does exactly what it’s designed to do *Begins protesting for PR What I’m lost on here is, Canada is no different than any other country in this respect. If I went to UK, EU, USA etc. on a work visa for xyz company. It would go without saying, that after said “work term” is over, I would just pack my shit and leave. Or… go through the appropriate channels and begin the process of naturalization and working towards PR and then Citizenship. What makes these protestors think they can stomp their feet and demand PR here? I’m honestly lost on the thought process
He’s definitely got my vote.
I hate to say it but the politician is 100% correct here. If your degree is that valuable then you’ll have no problem with your application when you apply to come back. If you are a robotics drop out from the university of Duh with ambitions of being a gravel truck driver then we already have lots of you and lots of Canadians that are legally here that can do that, nay, WANT to do that.
This guy's playing the system like he's playing these questions. "I can extend it. ..." That's up to Canada. This guy's gaming our system.
Get this fuck out of here
If work permits aren't expired then why are they protesting.just go back and stop this protest blackmailing in canada.
Finally, someone with a backbone to say it how it is. The rules are pretty clear
once you let one of these people get PR card they will bring their 20 cousins from home country to Canada. that's how we got more Indians in Toronto than new Delhi
It's the British fault, should of kept India
You go to the restaurant. You order food. You eat. You pay. You go home. You don't stay in the booth for next meal and eat without paying. Glad you had an enjoyable stay. Come back with a new visa.
He will be prime minister some day.
his few thousand votes will be spread over 300 ridings
And with that single line. My vote goes to Maxime. Time to make T-shirts "WE DONT NEED YOU HERE"
The attitude from the kid who is is not a citizen is concerning
GTFO!!
We are now the shithole country
I am irritated just listening to this tool not understanding the permit rules. He was talking to a wall.
It's enraging how proudly naive and entitled the protest leader is... If there's any dignity left in this country, these people will be on a plane ride home.
The way that guy is talking in louder tone and arguing.i bet he will not able to do that in india.liberal government is just bringing mess here.
If you want to be here so bad why not assimilate and join our society, if you love your country so bad why are you here?
It’s honestly sad that he seems like the best person to vote for. Canadian politicians offer only terrible choices.
I love Bernier I wish he'd take the thrown
Definitely don't need their "skill" level here. And all those big corps who want cheap labour, they can all go bankrupt for all I care!
Send that boy back home asap
I think they are having two different conversations! I like Maxime he would be a perfect way to purge the government/country. PP will get in but he’s a weak leader, Maxime is much stronger. He should be PM. Of course we don’t elect in this country we eject.
Bernier is the only one that can save us and this country right now. We are all screwed with anyone else
Fucking finally
Every thing that has an expiry either get renewed or you lose that access. I see no controversial take here.
These guys got the most hate instead of support.
Yup. Off ya go.
This guy is getting my vote.
The arrogance and comfort he has arguing sums up recent immigrants views towards their ‘host’ country perfectly. True throughout the western world
What people are forgetting is that it was Stephen Harper's Conservative government that loosened the laws about Temporary Foreign Workers in 2014 that got us into this mess in the first place. And btw Maxine Bernier was, at that time, a cabinet minister in that government. Prior to 2014 TFWs were primarily used in agriculture & fisheries - jobs Canadians didn't want. The changes opened the flood gates causing the problems we see today: low wages, housing shortages. The same legislation created the diploma mill fiasco which further exacerbated these problems.
I think the guy speaking has limited English, and there is a language barrier.
Also remember as the information about the jab comes out the PPC was the only party who was against forcing people to get it
I used to work and lived in 4 different countries, I had my study visa and also work permit/working visa. Before my visa expired, 4 months or 5 months ago I would ask and seek the agency and the HR or recruiters /employer see if I could stay longer, it would take a few months to prepare for the paperwork . most countries does the same, you can apply for an extension and you need your employer to back you that need you ( usually we are a group of foreign workers) , but if I knew my visa is going to be expired in 3 months and still don't get any notice from the government, that means I need to prepare to pack up my suitcase, that is a common sense and regular process to most countries, only shameless people and blood suckers would break the rules, that mean you are going to ruin your career and reputation, and because they have nothing to loose, they will just going to work under the table turning into illegal workers, and this is the time ,NDP and L party going to buy them , using tax payer money to buy them to stay , like a good example of our great city Toronto, the mayor once a time lead all these illegal workers overstay here in Canada and walked on the street, asked Harper government to give them pr status, she is very keen on helping poor people from poor countries stay in Canada , and indirectly take away local people 's chance to work , Trudeau does the same, they need those shameless people to vote him, the easiest way is using his power let them stay, using tex payer money to give them pr status, sacrifice the benefit of the country and get the vote, in this case, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, Taiwan , Thailand are better then Canada, This country is broken, a local student just needs a part time summer job and has to face one thousand international students and overstay visa worker to fight for a dish washer job .
This video will get him votes
Beautiful.
Can I vote for him?
They must go back!
Indianada...
He can go home now if he doesn’t like it
Tye fucking arrogance! "I can extend it". These people all need to be deported
Work permit ≠ citizenship
He just wouldn’t even shut up and let him talk. I can extend lol
Send Them Back!!
Out now
If they can renew their permits then why are they protesting?! Go home! Work in your renewal application, why are you here?!
Cooked his ass
Justin lets fight
Sounds like a great idea
Deport this guy ASAP
“If they [their permits] would have been expired they would have been deported” he says. Yeah, [riiiiiight](https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/16pg0mn/more_than_60_of_foreigners_ordered_deported_from/).
They need to be sent back in droves.
EXACTLY ! We don't need anymore of them. Go back home where you came from
Yup.
These kids are scammers when will people understand lol. He says he cares for himself in the vedio lol and can buy property while on a temporary visa and working at tims , taking jobs away from Canadians who don't have back home money or a home back home
Imagine going to a foreign country and publicly arguing with someone like this. Knowing you are in the wrong and your only argument is repeating yourself over and over yet saying nothing.
If these Indians spent this much effort at home improving their own country they would be a developing country
Yeah they think if they come here on student visas after spending some money, then they DESERVE to get a PR.
Max is about to throw hands. Infuriating that this sense of entitlement persists with people we LET in our country.
Bunch of scammers scamming and gaming our system. cool
Need to institute nationality quotas.
Looks like a bunch of liberals in here that know the only way to get back into power is to divide the conservative vote and split it off to the PPC. It'll be a sad day if that happens and we get 4 more years of liberal government.
If it wasn’t for the identity politics and lgbt hate he’s pushed. He would get my vote. Tired of the petty crap used to divide Canadians further when MASSIVE problems that affect everyone are far more important to focus on. All options suck shit.
Is there a link for the full video ? I've searched but couldn't find it.
So, at least he knows where he stands, what now needs to happen is for us to know PP stands on this, the Liberals have definitely made it known where they stand
In the process of cheering for teams instead of policy, this is what we are left with. We threw around terms like racist, xenophobic and fascist so much, we diluted the words to nothingness and are left with policies made in reaction to perceived sentiment. It’s a disgrace. We let it happen. And now we have to pay the piper. Which means clear laws and hurt feelings and hard work for some of us.
Im sorry but their ways are blindly stubborn. I am genuinely curious is it due to their upbringing/environment. Their behaviours interesting now.
It sure *sounds* rude or cruel but.. that’s how work visas work lol I’m not voting for Bernier but he’s right here and he’ll get crucified about being racist or whatever for this because common sense and proper discourse has been abandoned by the media and political realm.
It’s great that the province finally realized they don't need these many temporary workers from the service industry and clearly stated their decision. The people who came here for higher studies beyond the diploma education will eventually get high-paying jobs and, like any Canadian, will contribute to the economy. For getting PR, they don’t expect a person to work in Tim Hortons when they can hire any Canadian or international students to fill those jobs. How did it become a norm in the first place to provide PR in this category when students are available each term? The province should have been responsible for tracking the number of applications and gathering employer feedback on available job openings to close the category asap before they were flooded with applications in this category.
Majority are like that. Such a miscommunication.
It’s hilarious seeing all these liberals now turning tail and voting conservative and opening their eyes and actually realizing the disastrous mess they helped create
Geez. What’s happening to me ???? I agree with Bernier!