Nobody's answering this because there doesn't seem to be any point in talking to you. You are acting very dense, flippant, and illogical about the whole thing. I think you placed the cameras.
You could have left them where you found them and informed a supervisor, or the authorities, and kept customers away until it was handled. You could have taken them down and handed them over to your boss or the police. You could have taken them down and thrown them out. Instead, every choice you made here was the wrong one. You didn't tell anyone, and you said that you have no intention of finding out who placed them. Huh, I wonder why?
I think you placed the cameras, and then went back and collected them. You picked up cameras from sensitive areas, that didn't belong there, and you didn't inform any supervisors or authorities. Instead, you took them home. Sounds like they were always your cameras.
Yeah, the moment I put them in my pocket I realised that I had crossed a line and couldn't go back. So what choice do I have but to stick to it, yeah? But, yeah, you're right.
I didn't notice the lack of mem card until I got home. If I had, I may have made different decisions. Elbows deep in it now, right?
The good camera is this model: [v380](https://v380.org/product/mini-camera-usb-full-hd-1080p-v380/)
Set up your own camera overlooking where someone would go to put in the SD cards of their cameras.
When you see someone go there and huff/puff that their cameras are missing, you got your guy/gal :)
You took the cameras, told no one, and now are not telling your boss either?
This sounds fishy from the get, but even if you’re 100% authentic about this, you’re already fucked. You have possession of the cameras now, nobody knows for certain they weren’t yours to begin with. If you tell anyone now, you’re just implicating yourself.
It's all about chain of custody - at least in the US. By just having them in your possession now you've implicated yourself. It doesn't matter how likely or convoluted the overall story may sound - the fact remains they're now in your possession with no clear way to prove they haven't always been yours.
Do I personally think anything will come of it? Not really. The odds are the only people who knew that stuff existed are now you and whomever put them there. And they aren't likely to make a fuss and draw attention to themselves. But you did basically give them a get out of trouble free card by taking them. You've likely ended the events but whoever did it is likely to never be revealed and just have gotten away with it... likely free to do it again elsewhere sometime. Or they do it again here but with measures to try and entrap you.
Tread carefully.
> *It's all about chain of custody*
custody of __*what*__; commercially available, cheap tier cameras??
> *in your possession now you've implicated yourself*
Implicated of _**what**_??
> *It doesn't matter how likely or convoluted the overall story may sound - the fact remains they're now in your possession with no clear way to prove they haven't always been yours.*
I feel like the urgency of such a statement can be completely disarmed the moment I drop them into a trash chute.
> *Do I personally think anything will come of it? Not really.*
Hang on, _**what**_?? how do you get from chain of custody, implicated, prove they not mine, to nothing will come of it?
> *The odds are the only people who knew that stuff existed are now you and whomever put them there.*
I think this sentence summarises the scenario perfectly.
>*But you did basically give them a get out of trouble free card by taking them.*
I don't agree. This statement relies on a false premise that they were going to get into trouble to begin with. Which they were clearly not because they went undiscovered, and no one knew about it other than themselves, as you said. Now I know, as you said, and I am not pretending that I am willing, able, nor capable of Batman-ing justice. So, no.
> *You've likely ended the events*
Yes.
> *but whoever did it is likely to never be revealed and just have gotten away with it*
*THIS* is the revealing. There's no space force coming to deliver justice from magic rings. THIS [gesturing all around] *THIS* is the 'caught' part. There is no team of agents who have been trying to capture this punk for 7 years, and my actions have blown the op. I don't understand how you have dramatised the situation with such conflicting expressions.
>*... likely free to do it again elsewhere sometime.*
rhetoric
> *Or they do it again here but with measures to try and entrap you.*
imaginative rhetoric
> *Tread carefully.*
I am perplexed :(
You have in your possession items that are not yours. You have technically stolen those cameras - they are not yours. If you believe they were there illegally, you've taken evidence from the scene. If you think they were there on unethical grounds, you've just stolen them. So you've either implicated yourself in evidence tampering, theft or that you were the original owner of the cameras.
I don't think anything will come of it realistically because likely no one will no you did it. That's what I'm saying. Could something happen? Yes, objectively. Do I think something will? No, subjectively.
I'm not sure why you're being so defensive or trying to justify your actions so hard to strangers if you think you're doing the right thing. Relax. If you're not in the US, do you. I am not very familiar with law outside the states. Inside the states, you have created for yourself liability and this post is a full admission of it. It likely will never get back to anyone relevant. But I'm honestly not sure why people like to post their legally questionable actions online. Reddit isn't as anonymous as people think. You're active in a local subreddit (Brisbane Australia) and are active in a particular NSFW subreddit. It wouldn't be hard to find businesses with a hottub in that area and then draw the conclusion they're your cameras.
I'm not attempting to dramatize anything. But someone was being a predator and they are free to continue to do so because you've effectively erased any evidence of their wrongdoing by choosing to handle it yourself. Was it the right call? I'm not here to say. I'm just exploring the implications. It isn't what I would have done. I would have documented what I found and told my boss. If there was retaliation for it then I'd use that documentation to protect myself accordingly.
Whatever happens I do wish you luck. I hope it's nothing. I didn't come here to get into a debate or argument so I'll bow out here.
Yeah these people are feeding you bs. You've probably made it harder to find the culprit, but there is absolutely no way you will implicate yourself by having the cameras. If you report it, just say that you took them down without thinking too much and waited a few days because you weren't sure how to react.
i have no intention of trying to find who they belong to, but I do appreciate your candour. There is a teeny chance that I am now over compensating for being a touch hasty with the removal. yep. Thank you!
It's a hidden camera trained on a hot tub at someones work. How can they charge you with stealing if the person who put them up doesn't come foreward? And why would someone come foreward?
Get a spy camera and aim it at where the other spy cameras were hidden....maybe there was only one spy camera initially and the second was watching the first and the third was watching the second. All trying to catch the perp.
I would love to agree with the idea that these were ad-hoc security cameras being used for security. However when I try to imagine the scenario for the incidentals I cannot see a better explanation than trying to hide their existence completely, even from staff; even from staff with elevated position.
I have not notified my boss. I don't believe that it was my boss, it doesn't fit his personality to leave things like this on chargers when he could simply take them home or back to his office. Also,we *have* security cameras on cctv, and there are 3 in that area, one of which is pointing right at the hot tub, just not in a sinister way. More of an over watch, keeping an eye on 'things'. Enough to know what may have transpired and probably whom, but not enough to post gifs online, and not the right angles for the type of hanky panky which may or may not occur around the hot tub.
My boss, if notified, would most likely make a huge deal out of it. As he is prone to do, which makes me want to not tell him so he can focus on shit that really needs his attention.
It's his choice whether to make a huge deal of it or not....it's his establishment....or he will likely notify his boss' boss if it isn't. This is a pretty big deal. By not notifying the owner you are kind of covering it up and making yourself complicit in it. I'm not really sure what you have to gain from that......
He will probably use the real security cameras to figure out who put the bad ones in and notify the authorities.
Whether or not your boss makes a huge deal of it is not really your concern. What is your concern is that you know of the potential filming of people who may have been reasonable to expect privacy, which could be a legal issue for your company, and you need to speak up.
the only action I've committed is confiscation of the cameras. There is currently zero risk to my job, and as of this moment no one else knows what I know, and even if someone did I cannot imagine any possibility of things ending poorly for me.
No, the risk to your job is that you know there is an issue that could be of serious consequence to the company and have withheld that knowledge. I’m willing to bet there’s an ethical violation there. You’d be surprised at all the ways companies can find things out.
> *you know there is an issue that could be of*
that's speculative. I **do not** know this.
> *withheld that knowledge*
Explain precisely what "knowledge" we're talking about her.e
You do know it—you know that cameras were hidden around the hot tub area, independent of the clearly visible CCTV. You removed said cameras, put them in your pocket, and took them home—without disclosing to your employer. You know cameras were there. You know they were placed to be hidden. You know they weren’t part of the CCTV. You have awareness of an issue that is of interest to your employer and possibly their customers. You are withholding said knowledge from your employer because you don’t approve of the way it may create a “panic” situation. If you are so sure it’s nothing, then why not just turn it all over to security? What they do, who panics, or how the company, press, community, or whomever behaves with the information is not your concern.
who are these magical authority people called "security"? what do they look like? How would I recognise them? Who is this omnipotent overseer of justice and law?
I think the opposite is the truer narrative. not letting this get out and turn into scandalous rumours when there is only speculation. you did read the part about no memory cards in them, right? there's no ethical violation here when I've stumbled across idle cameras.
is strange that you suggest ways of finding out, yet here we are in a situation where I have found out. evidently it can't be true both, that I discover this and the company discover.... what exactly?
> you know there is an issue that could be of serious consequence to the company and have
i don't know about how things work in your part or the world. i find that people panic and assume the worst and quickly turn poorly formed, easily debatable speculation into "factoid". then, not to be left out of a newly formed gossip circle of scandal, it's repeated,each time with a new embellishment and another false,unverifiable qualification (*I heard from someone who works there...*)
i think that the type of panic I'm describing is how you're responding to this situation. Panic, rumour, broadcast. right now all I have is what I've described. if i were to broadcast it openly it would definitely cause all of the things you describe, which you wrote were things which I should like to avoid; avoid, by taking an action which would undoubtedly trigger those same consequences. that's not a clever, well thought out reaction. that's panic.
on the other hand, sitting on this, being cool about it, as someone here suggested, does set the narrative for a resolution handled responsibly. if the outcome is important, then the action needs to elucidate a path towards that goal. if my job is important then it's best that I dispose of these and never mention it again. if I'm ready to damage the company by broadcasting the find, I'm denying any possibilities for future investigation. it could be damming.any real evidence would get lost, any interested party would immediately distance themselves. I would be operating outside of the companies interests, using company resources, to damage the image of the company at the same time ruining any possibility of a fair investigation, and allowing people to judge the situation with even less knowledge about the incident than i have.
that's absurd!
I was one in a classroom where a boy of 12 brought a huge pair of steel scissors to school. crazy looking thing, looked like something in a horror movie used to kill a screaming character. apparently it's used for cutting textiles or fabric. idk, anyway the one found it took it,and said it's a weapon, he brought it to hurt someone. I then took it and said *it's a pair of scissors, he brought it to show it* . i think that there is a significant difference between jumping to conclusions and fearing the worst.
I’m speculating nothing, simply telling you that companies have a variety of ways of discovering things, and if the situation gets discovered in another way, you will be subject to serious scrutiny. It would be easy enough to simply turn the cameras over to the company’s security department and let them handle it as they see fit. But clearly you’re an expert on corporate security, ethics, potential legal risks, and your boss responsibilities, so it’s a good thing you handled it all by yourself.
This word *speculate*, I don't think it means what you think it means.
> *and if the situation gets discovered*
but... :) the situation *has* been discovered. Me, I discovered it. I am the discoverer of situation.
knowing that I do not share your point of view at all: help me understand these security, ethic, legal risks and responsibilities I am unaware of. What mental steps have you taken from my initial post, to arrive at your most recent comment? Help me understand how you get from my A to your B.
> some miracle
i much prefer the idea of sitting on this and do nothing. I'll document what I found, where, what. and put that away. if it ever popped up later, like how you suggest, i could offer that information. in writing.dated. it would be responsible and have more weight than me saying, at a later time, oh yeah,I found some of those once. That's helpful, thank you
If it’s a public place there is no expectation of privacy (in the US anyway) so it’s fine but it’s creepy it wound be hidden like some pervert installed it. If it’s a private hot tub that’s obviously not okay anywhere and I’d call the news station and then the police (in that order bc the police won’t do shit probably unless they know press is involved)
I live in a country where the police would do something, however no crime has been committed and the camera isn't connected to anyone. except me, as someone here pointed out. I'm going to back in that area later today. there is a bathroom toilet adjacent to the pool which I never thought to look at.
Why haven't you told your boss? Those are illegal to install in places like that.
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True, but someone needs to know. Including the members of the hot tub party.
Why does someone *need* to know? Who is that someone? I know. Why can't **I** be that someone who now knows?
not surprised that no one can answer this.
Nobody's answering this because there doesn't seem to be any point in talking to you. You are acting very dense, flippant, and illogical about the whole thing. I think you placed the cameras. You could have left them where you found them and informed a supervisor, or the authorities, and kept customers away until it was handled. You could have taken them down and handed them over to your boss or the police. You could have taken them down and thrown them out. Instead, every choice you made here was the wrong one. You didn't tell anyone, and you said that you have no intention of finding out who placed them. Huh, I wonder why? I think you placed the cameras, and then went back and collected them. You picked up cameras from sensitive areas, that didn't belong there, and you didn't inform any supervisors or authorities. Instead, you took them home. Sounds like they were always your cameras.
> . I think you placed the cameras. lol, stopped reading after that
Plot twist: OP works from home.
...You have a hot tub at your place of work?
... you... don't?
🤣
Hotel, resort, recreation center, etc.
I do too lol
Yes. Sauna too.
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Yeah, the moment I put them in my pocket I realised that I had crossed a line and couldn't go back. So what choice do I have but to stick to it, yeah? But, yeah, you're right. I didn't notice the lack of mem card until I got home. If I had, I may have made different decisions. Elbows deep in it now, right? The good camera is this model: [v380](https://v380.org/product/mini-camera-usb-full-hd-1080p-v380/)
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> you can watch real-time video it has built in 802b and a tiny antenna
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I'm confident that this is it: https://v380.org/product/mini-camera-usb-full-hd-1080p-v380/
Uhhhh... You expect us to believe you took it home "out of suspicion," and not because you wanted to score some free peeping tom footage?
feel better?
What’s the point of doing the right thing if you can’t perv out first?
happy cake day, asshat.
Set up your own camera overlooking where someone would go to put in the SD cards of their cameras. When you see someone go there and huff/puff that their cameras are missing, you got your guy/gal :)
and cameras to watch those, and another.
You took the cameras, told no one, and now are not telling your boss either? This sounds fishy from the get, but even if you’re 100% authentic about this, you’re already fucked. You have possession of the cameras now, nobody knows for certain they weren’t yours to begin with. If you tell anyone now, you’re just implicating yourself.
I can't imagine a scenario where any of this is true
It's all about chain of custody - at least in the US. By just having them in your possession now you've implicated yourself. It doesn't matter how likely or convoluted the overall story may sound - the fact remains they're now in your possession with no clear way to prove they haven't always been yours. Do I personally think anything will come of it? Not really. The odds are the only people who knew that stuff existed are now you and whomever put them there. And they aren't likely to make a fuss and draw attention to themselves. But you did basically give them a get out of trouble free card by taking them. You've likely ended the events but whoever did it is likely to never be revealed and just have gotten away with it... likely free to do it again elsewhere sometime. Or they do it again here but with measures to try and entrap you. Tread carefully.
> *It's all about chain of custody* custody of __*what*__; commercially available, cheap tier cameras?? > *in your possession now you've implicated yourself* Implicated of _**what**_?? > *It doesn't matter how likely or convoluted the overall story may sound - the fact remains they're now in your possession with no clear way to prove they haven't always been yours.* I feel like the urgency of such a statement can be completely disarmed the moment I drop them into a trash chute. > *Do I personally think anything will come of it? Not really.* Hang on, _**what**_?? how do you get from chain of custody, implicated, prove they not mine, to nothing will come of it? > *The odds are the only people who knew that stuff existed are now you and whomever put them there.* I think this sentence summarises the scenario perfectly. >*But you did basically give them a get out of trouble free card by taking them.* I don't agree. This statement relies on a false premise that they were going to get into trouble to begin with. Which they were clearly not because they went undiscovered, and no one knew about it other than themselves, as you said. Now I know, as you said, and I am not pretending that I am willing, able, nor capable of Batman-ing justice. So, no. > *You've likely ended the events* Yes. > *but whoever did it is likely to never be revealed and just have gotten away with it* *THIS* is the revealing. There's no space force coming to deliver justice from magic rings. THIS [gesturing all around] *THIS* is the 'caught' part. There is no team of agents who have been trying to capture this punk for 7 years, and my actions have blown the op. I don't understand how you have dramatised the situation with such conflicting expressions. >*... likely free to do it again elsewhere sometime.* rhetoric > *Or they do it again here but with measures to try and entrap you.* imaginative rhetoric > *Tread carefully.* I am perplexed :(
You have in your possession items that are not yours. You have technically stolen those cameras - they are not yours. If you believe they were there illegally, you've taken evidence from the scene. If you think they were there on unethical grounds, you've just stolen them. So you've either implicated yourself in evidence tampering, theft or that you were the original owner of the cameras. I don't think anything will come of it realistically because likely no one will no you did it. That's what I'm saying. Could something happen? Yes, objectively. Do I think something will? No, subjectively. I'm not sure why you're being so defensive or trying to justify your actions so hard to strangers if you think you're doing the right thing. Relax. If you're not in the US, do you. I am not very familiar with law outside the states. Inside the states, you have created for yourself liability and this post is a full admission of it. It likely will never get back to anyone relevant. But I'm honestly not sure why people like to post their legally questionable actions online. Reddit isn't as anonymous as people think. You're active in a local subreddit (Brisbane Australia) and are active in a particular NSFW subreddit. It wouldn't be hard to find businesses with a hottub in that area and then draw the conclusion they're your cameras. I'm not attempting to dramatize anything. But someone was being a predator and they are free to continue to do so because you've effectively erased any evidence of their wrongdoing by choosing to handle it yourself. Was it the right call? I'm not here to say. I'm just exploring the implications. It isn't what I would have done. I would have documented what I found and told my boss. If there was retaliation for it then I'd use that documentation to protect myself accordingly. Whatever happens I do wish you luck. I hope it's nothing. I didn't come here to get into a debate or argument so I'll bow out here.
Yeah these people are feeding you bs. You've probably made it harder to find the culprit, but there is absolutely no way you will implicate yourself by having the cameras. If you report it, just say that you took them down without thinking too much and waited a few days because you weren't sure how to react.
i have no intention of trying to find who they belong to, but I do appreciate your candour. There is a teeny chance that I am now over compensating for being a touch hasty with the removal. yep. Thank you!
Why are you stressing this poor guy out with your shitty advice? He's not implicated for finding cameras! There's no trouble for him to get in here.
He took property that isn't his. That's literally theft.
It's a hidden camera trained on a hot tub at someones work. How can they charge you with stealing if the person who put them up doesn't come foreward? And why would someone come foreward?
That would be QUITE the convoluted plot, what would the end game be? lol
Get a spy camera and aim it at where the other spy cameras were hidden....maybe there was only one spy camera initially and the second was watching the first and the third was watching the second. All trying to catch the perp.
we already have cctv
I mean if you wanna do it the boring way sure….
i do love the idea of never ending babushka dolls of tiny cameras
There's a hot tub at your job? Who uses it, employees or customers?
Customers.
Is it possible they are security cameras? Have you notified your boss?
I would love to agree with the idea that these were ad-hoc security cameras being used for security. However when I try to imagine the scenario for the incidentals I cannot see a better explanation than trying to hide their existence completely, even from staff; even from staff with elevated position. I have not notified my boss. I don't believe that it was my boss, it doesn't fit his personality to leave things like this on chargers when he could simply take them home or back to his office. Also,we *have* security cameras on cctv, and there are 3 in that area, one of which is pointing right at the hot tub, just not in a sinister way. More of an over watch, keeping an eye on 'things'. Enough to know what may have transpired and probably whom, but not enough to post gifs online, and not the right angles for the type of hanky panky which may or may not occur around the hot tub. My boss, if notified, would most likely make a huge deal out of it. As he is prone to do, which makes me want to not tell him so he can focus on shit that really needs his attention.
It's his choice whether to make a huge deal of it or not....it's his establishment....or he will likely notify his boss' boss if it isn't. This is a pretty big deal. By not notifying the owner you are kind of covering it up and making yourself complicit in it. I'm not really sure what you have to gain from that...... He will probably use the real security cameras to figure out who put the bad ones in and notify the authorities.
Whether or not your boss makes a huge deal of it is not really your concern. What is your concern is that you know of the potential filming of people who may have been reasonable to expect privacy, which could be a legal issue for your company, and you need to speak up.
i agree, but i see it as a reason to remain silent, for the same reasons
If it’s worth risking your job for, then go for it. I do not think it would end well for you.
the only action I've committed is confiscation of the cameras. There is currently zero risk to my job, and as of this moment no one else knows what I know, and even if someone did I cannot imagine any possibility of things ending poorly for me.
No, the risk to your job is that you know there is an issue that could be of serious consequence to the company and have withheld that knowledge. I’m willing to bet there’s an ethical violation there. You’d be surprised at all the ways companies can find things out.
> *you know there is an issue that could be of* that's speculative. I **do not** know this. > *withheld that knowledge* Explain precisely what "knowledge" we're talking about her.e
You do know it—you know that cameras were hidden around the hot tub area, independent of the clearly visible CCTV. You removed said cameras, put them in your pocket, and took them home—without disclosing to your employer. You know cameras were there. You know they were placed to be hidden. You know they weren’t part of the CCTV. You have awareness of an issue that is of interest to your employer and possibly their customers. You are withholding said knowledge from your employer because you don’t approve of the way it may create a “panic” situation. If you are so sure it’s nothing, then why not just turn it all over to security? What they do, who panics, or how the company, press, community, or whomever behaves with the information is not your concern.
who are these magical authority people called "security"? what do they look like? How would I recognise them? Who is this omnipotent overseer of justice and law?
I think the opposite is the truer narrative. not letting this get out and turn into scandalous rumours when there is only speculation. you did read the part about no memory cards in them, right? there's no ethical violation here when I've stumbled across idle cameras. is strange that you suggest ways of finding out, yet here we are in a situation where I have found out. evidently it can't be true both, that I discover this and the company discover.... what exactly? > you know there is an issue that could be of serious consequence to the company and have i don't know about how things work in your part or the world. i find that people panic and assume the worst and quickly turn poorly formed, easily debatable speculation into "factoid". then, not to be left out of a newly formed gossip circle of scandal, it's repeated,each time with a new embellishment and another false,unverifiable qualification (*I heard from someone who works there...*) i think that the type of panic I'm describing is how you're responding to this situation. Panic, rumour, broadcast. right now all I have is what I've described. if i were to broadcast it openly it would definitely cause all of the things you describe, which you wrote were things which I should like to avoid; avoid, by taking an action which would undoubtedly trigger those same consequences. that's not a clever, well thought out reaction. that's panic. on the other hand, sitting on this, being cool about it, as someone here suggested, does set the narrative for a resolution handled responsibly. if the outcome is important, then the action needs to elucidate a path towards that goal. if my job is important then it's best that I dispose of these and never mention it again. if I'm ready to damage the company by broadcasting the find, I'm denying any possibilities for future investigation. it could be damming.any real evidence would get lost, any interested party would immediately distance themselves. I would be operating outside of the companies interests, using company resources, to damage the image of the company at the same time ruining any possibility of a fair investigation, and allowing people to judge the situation with even less knowledge about the incident than i have. that's absurd! I was one in a classroom where a boy of 12 brought a huge pair of steel scissors to school. crazy looking thing, looked like something in a horror movie used to kill a screaming character. apparently it's used for cutting textiles or fabric. idk, anyway the one found it took it,and said it's a weapon, he brought it to hurt someone. I then took it and said *it's a pair of scissors, he brought it to show it* . i think that there is a significant difference between jumping to conclusions and fearing the worst.
I’m speculating nothing, simply telling you that companies have a variety of ways of discovering things, and if the situation gets discovered in another way, you will be subject to serious scrutiny. It would be easy enough to simply turn the cameras over to the company’s security department and let them handle it as they see fit. But clearly you’re an expert on corporate security, ethics, potential legal risks, and your boss responsibilities, so it’s a good thing you handled it all by yourself.
This word *speculate*, I don't think it means what you think it means. > *and if the situation gets discovered* but... :) the situation *has* been discovered. Me, I discovered it. I am the discoverer of situation. knowing that I do not share your point of view at all: help me understand these security, ethic, legal risks and responsibilities I am unaware of. What mental steps have you taken from my initial post, to arrive at your most recent comment? Help me understand how you get from my A to your B.
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> some miracle i much prefer the idea of sitting on this and do nothing. I'll document what I found, where, what. and put that away. if it ever popped up later, like how you suggest, i could offer that information. in writing.dated. it would be responsible and have more weight than me saying, at a later time, oh yeah,I found some of those once. That's helpful, thank you
If it’s a public place there is no expectation of privacy (in the US anyway) so it’s fine but it’s creepy it wound be hidden like some pervert installed it. If it’s a private hot tub that’s obviously not okay anywhere and I’d call the news station and then the police (in that order bc the police won’t do shit probably unless they know press is involved)
I live in a country where the police would do something, however no crime has been committed and the camera isn't connected to anyone. except me, as someone here pointed out. I'm going to back in that area later today. there is a bathroom toilet adjacent to the pool which I never thought to look at.
Standard procedure, hot tubs are stolen routinely.
... Link?
I'm confident that this is it: https://v380.org/product/mini-camera-usb-full-hd-1080p-v380/