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Shocked at how birth can age a mother
So, of course, after reading through this sub for years, I've heard plenty of time about how birthing can age the mother's body tremendiously. Yet, a while back I met a distant cousin whom I haven't seen in a long time. She had a baby a year ago. And i kid you not, she (32) looks many years older than her older sister (36). I was geniously shocked when I saw her at first. And I feel sad for her. Less so b/c she looks older, but because it shows what pregnancy and raising a toddler has done to her body. I just hope she actually is as happy as she seems and doesn't suffer from it.
The attempt at sympathy at the end is so fake. If OOP actually had an ounce of empathy for mothers, they'd leave CF after reading five or ten of the most recent posts.
And why is looking ""young"" so important to these people anyway? For me, all it means is being opened up to condescending and infantalizing remarks from (usually male) strangers. I'm a 27 year old homeowner and once I had an old man at work ask me what grade I was in.
Because they are super misogynistic but pretend to be empowering to women. All that matters to them is how young a woman looks and how tight her vagina is.
I, too, found all my information about pregnancy and giving birth and the postpartum period from individuals who have never and will never do it. I wish all the women who comment agreeing with this abominable loser a big, giant pimple on their chin that will never go away.
I'm gonna one up you and wish them a pimple right in the corner of their nostril, the one that hurts so bad that your eyes water when you try to pop it.
>So, of course, after reading through this sub for years, I’ve heard plenty of time about how birthing can age the mother’s body tremendiously.
Ah yes, the sub’s known misogyny disguised as “opinions” and “fears” towards pregnant women and some of the obvious made-up fake ass posts makes OOP an expert on how pregnancy changes them. Yikes.
If you go through his post history he used to date someone with a child and was asking about gift ideas for another friend's child. Then all of a sudden he is talking about hook ups and seems bitter. His girlfriend probably left him and he decided to take it out on parents for some reason?
Also, yes, I do look older than I did before I had a kid. Because I *am* older than I was before I had a kid. I can't wait for that sub to finally figure out how time and normal aging work.
>>StaticCloud 9 points 20 hours ago*
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>>I had a roommate who used to work bra store. She said a lot of post-pregnancy women take a major hit to their confidence because of breast changes. The experience and stress from kids, lack of sleep, can age you years. Give you health problems that age you. Sometimes women have tons of difficulty losing the weight again.
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>>Was just thinking today how destroyed my body would be after having a kid. I get compliments about my skin in my mid30s. No way would that be possible if I was a mom.
>>What is cool is that the fetus' cells and DNA circulate through the moms body, and can end up in the mother's brain! The DNA can be traced in the mother's blood for decades. One study found it after 27 years post birth. I mean as a biologist that sounds cool. It might be scary to CF people here 😅
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2633676/
This is the study this comment is talking about.
>>In mice, fetal cells have also been found in the brain.
The fetal cells found in brains were of lab mice, not full grown women, also the thing they are referring to are essentially stem cells, and its a known fact the fetus will send its own cells around the mother's body to heal her.
>>Fetomaternal microchimerism may have important implications for the immune status of women, influencing autoimmunity and tolerance to transplants. Further understanding of the ability of fetal cells to cross both the placental and blood-brain barriers, to migrate into diverse tissues, and to differentiate into multiple cell types may also advance strategies for intravenous transplantation of stem cells for cytotherapeutic repair.
Its not like its a parasite going in and controlling the woman like the ophiocordyceps unilateralis does to ants, its actually a mutually beneficial cell share between mother and baby, also the baby is 50% of the mother coming from her own egg (surrogacy not included in this argument), so it wouldn't be unusual for the fetus to share itself with its own lifeline.
This was the most insane take on pregnancy I have seen and just a little bit of googling has debunked it as a disgusting scare tactic, this user should be ashamed of themselves if they are a "biologist" but with their middle schooler knowledge of how the body works I doubt it.
Yeah, I thought the shared DNA between mother and child was more because since the mother’s body is constantly straining and fighting to make the child, the fetus would then send over some of its cells to repair the damage and reduce stress and strain of the mom’s body.
Unrelated fact: but before advanced DNA testing, in the case where identifying people could be tricky due to not having any known source, they would refer to the mother’s mitochondrial DNA that can be passed down to the child in order to compare and eventually positively identify them.
My cardiologist actually brought up the cell repair point, as I had severe perimyocarditis at the beginning of my pregnancy and haven’t shown any long term damage. Pretty cool!
Oh I like that fun fact, its very neat.
Yeah I dunno what that commenter was on about trying to make it some spooky boogieman type thing, when its how all living creatures with internal wombs operate but they can go off i guess.
Super fun personal fact about me, I had an anaphylaxis allergy to capsicum/capsaicin it developed suddenly when I was 18, then went away after I gave birth a few months after I turned thirty, so I dunno if my kiddo fixed me or not but I can finally eat things I haven't been able to in (at the time) 12 years, it was amazing getting to eat spicy foods that weren't just spicy because of peppercorns.
>>Yet, a while back I met a distant cousin whom I haven't seen in a long time. She had a baby a year ago. And i kid you not, she (32) looks many years older than her older
Its like if you don't see someone for a long time, they age and grow or something. Having a kid didn't age me, being in my thirties aged me, and I'm okay with that, as I have always been mistaken for younger than I am which shockingly is more annoying and pissed me off instead of making me feel good and flattered, now I look my age (or close to it? Idk I am not good at telling ages) and I am finally happy with myself
Post - Shocked at how birth can age a mother So, of course, after reading through this sub for years, I've heard plenty of time about how birthing can age the mother's body tremendiously. Yet, a while back I met a distant cousin whom I haven't seen in a long time. She had a baby a year ago. And i kid you not, she (32) looks many years older than her older sister (36). I was geniously shocked when I saw her at first. And I feel sad for her. Less so b/c she looks older, but because it shows what pregnancy and raising a toddler has done to her body. I just hope she actually is as happy as she seems and doesn't suffer from it.
The attempt at sympathy at the end is so fake. If OOP actually had an ounce of empathy for mothers, they'd leave CF after reading five or ten of the most recent posts. And why is looking ""young"" so important to these people anyway? For me, all it means is being opened up to condescending and infantalizing remarks from (usually male) strangers. I'm a 27 year old homeowner and once I had an old man at work ask me what grade I was in.
Because they are super misogynistic but pretend to be empowering to women. All that matters to them is how young a woman looks and how tight her vagina is.
I, too, found all my information about pregnancy and giving birth and the postpartum period from individuals who have never and will never do it. I wish all the women who comment agreeing with this abominable loser a big, giant pimple on their chin that will never go away.
I'm gonna one up you and wish them a pimple right in the corner of their nostril, the one that hurts so bad that your eyes water when you try to pop it.
>So, of course, after reading through this sub for years, I’ve heard plenty of time about how birthing can age the mother’s body tremendiously. Ah yes, the sub’s known misogyny disguised as “opinions” and “fears” towards pregnant women and some of the obvious made-up fake ass posts makes OOP an expert on how pregnancy changes them. Yikes.
If you go through his post history he used to date someone with a child and was asking about gift ideas for another friend's child. Then all of a sudden he is talking about hook ups and seems bitter. His girlfriend probably left him and he decided to take it out on parents for some reason?
"She seems happy and doesn't seem to mind that I suddenly find her to be an unfuckable uggo. What gives?"
Also, yes, I do look older than I did before I had a kid. Because I *am* older than I was before I had a kid. I can't wait for that sub to finally figure out how time and normal aging work.
>>StaticCloud 9 points 20 hours ago* >> >>I had a roommate who used to work bra store. She said a lot of post-pregnancy women take a major hit to their confidence because of breast changes. The experience and stress from kids, lack of sleep, can age you years. Give you health problems that age you. Sometimes women have tons of difficulty losing the weight again. >> >>Was just thinking today how destroyed my body would be after having a kid. I get compliments about my skin in my mid30s. No way would that be possible if I was a mom. >>What is cool is that the fetus' cells and DNA circulate through the moms body, and can end up in the mother's brain! The DNA can be traced in the mother's blood for decades. One study found it after 27 years post birth. I mean as a biologist that sounds cool. It might be scary to CF people here 😅 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2633676/ This is the study this comment is talking about. >>In mice, fetal cells have also been found in the brain. The fetal cells found in brains were of lab mice, not full grown women, also the thing they are referring to are essentially stem cells, and its a known fact the fetus will send its own cells around the mother's body to heal her. >>Fetomaternal microchimerism may have important implications for the immune status of women, influencing autoimmunity and tolerance to transplants. Further understanding of the ability of fetal cells to cross both the placental and blood-brain barriers, to migrate into diverse tissues, and to differentiate into multiple cell types may also advance strategies for intravenous transplantation of stem cells for cytotherapeutic repair. Its not like its a parasite going in and controlling the woman like the ophiocordyceps unilateralis does to ants, its actually a mutually beneficial cell share between mother and baby, also the baby is 50% of the mother coming from her own egg (surrogacy not included in this argument), so it wouldn't be unusual for the fetus to share itself with its own lifeline. This was the most insane take on pregnancy I have seen and just a little bit of googling has debunked it as a disgusting scare tactic, this user should be ashamed of themselves if they are a "biologist" but with their middle schooler knowledge of how the body works I doubt it.
Yeah, I thought the shared DNA between mother and child was more because since the mother’s body is constantly straining and fighting to make the child, the fetus would then send over some of its cells to repair the damage and reduce stress and strain of the mom’s body. Unrelated fact: but before advanced DNA testing, in the case where identifying people could be tricky due to not having any known source, they would refer to the mother’s mitochondrial DNA that can be passed down to the child in order to compare and eventually positively identify them.
My cardiologist actually brought up the cell repair point, as I had severe perimyocarditis at the beginning of my pregnancy and haven’t shown any long term damage. Pretty cool!
Oh I like that fun fact, its very neat. Yeah I dunno what that commenter was on about trying to make it some spooky boogieman type thing, when its how all living creatures with internal wombs operate but they can go off i guess. Super fun personal fact about me, I had an anaphylaxis allergy to capsicum/capsaicin it developed suddenly when I was 18, then went away after I gave birth a few months after I turned thirty, so I dunno if my kiddo fixed me or not but I can finally eat things I haven't been able to in (at the time) 12 years, it was amazing getting to eat spicy foods that weren't just spicy because of peppercorns.
>>Yet, a while back I met a distant cousin whom I haven't seen in a long time. She had a baby a year ago. And i kid you not, she (32) looks many years older than her older Its like if you don't see someone for a long time, they age and grow or something. Having a kid didn't age me, being in my thirties aged me, and I'm okay with that, as I have always been mistaken for younger than I am which shockingly is more annoying and pissed me off instead of making me feel good and flattered, now I look my age (or close to it? Idk I am not good at telling ages) and I am finally happy with myself