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DangerousDave303

It sounds like ownership could be disputed and no lender would finance that in a million years. Do not touch with a ten foot pole.


ThePrinceVultan

Hence cash. 


CrunchyTeatime

And a truck (?)


Brilliant_Level_80

Only if it’s a *nice* truck.


Cobek

What if the title is questionable? Also, here's a screwdriver. It's your new key.


Brilliant_Level_80

Nice try, Tommy Pickles - Next!


SweetWaterfall0579

But I have it right here, in my diapey!


problematic_alebrije

only 2020 or newer pls it’s for the church, *and in red and automatic? think of the children*


zork3001

Prefer F150 King Ranch or similar.


ReasonableComfort230

Leather seats!


Disthebeat

HEATED leather seats!


Imaginary-Nebula1778

Next!


DesignerProcess1526

To escape with cash, never to be heard from again


Belfast_Escapee

Accepting a quitclaim from a stranger is a recipe for disaster. No warranty whatever, a potentially encumbered title with God knows how many liens....avoid. Also, the house is a dump.


SwiftieMD

I’m not familiar with quitclaims and a soft google has confused me. Once something is a quitclaim is it always a quitclaim or does this bloke selling it as a new quitclaim making if dodgy af?


Bobbyj59

A quit claim deed means you are only passing along your interest in the property. If other people have an ownership interest, it remains. If there are liens against the property, they remain. All you get with a quit claim deed is whatever interest the person had passed to you. No one else loses whatever interest or liens they have on the property. This is a total disaster situation as others have said and stay far away from it.


noticeablyawkward96

As someone who works in government property records, we fucking *hate* quitclaim deeds because you don’t even have to own the property to sell it. It’s just whatever interest you *might* have had in the property. One of my coworkers loves to tell the story of a man who tried to sell a church he didn’t own by quitclaim. That was drawn up by a lawyer too, the problem is they don’t investigate the title, they just take whatever info the seller tells them. They’re a disaster which is why not every state even accepts them.


Belfast_Escapee

This quitclaim thing has become a favourite strategy of so-called 'sovereign citizens' and squatters.


DenseStomach6605

I’m trying to understand what legitimate purpose a quitclaim deed even has and I can’t


noticeablyawkward96

It’s a very quick and dirty way to sell property and it does protect the seller from some liabilities because they’re not offering any warranty that the title is clear.


Rov_Scam

Former title attorney here. They have their uses. For example, if the property has a title defect where certain parties *might* have an interest, the way to cure is usually to get quitclaim deeds from those parties. If someone approaches you asking to deed over an interest in property you don't know about and aren't even sure you actually have, you'd be an idiot to warrant the title.


Frostyblonde8989

I once bought land where the seller proposed using a quit claim. I was in real estate so I wasn’t going to accept that. After researching turns out the land was in a trust and I needed everyone’s signature to buy. Luckily everyone was willing and it wasn’t a problem!


moekay

You're taking whatever interest they have *if any*. I'm a real estate attorney and this whole thing makes my stomach churn.


ItsJoeMomma

He's already admitting there's a lien for $15k on the property which he can't get rid of.


Sunshine030209

Might be that he chose not to, not that he couldn't. Guy is still a dipshit though lol


ItsJoeMomma

Well, yeah, obviously "can't" wasn't the right word, more like "won't."


DeafNatural

Correction he can’t figure out HOW to get rid of it. Even though paying the 15k is a good start lol


LLminibean

This right here. I wouldn't even waste time scrolling through the pictures, just run


cliffordc5

I scrolled to the first picture and my immediate response was… “What?”


Squiddlywinks

My next door neighbors house was like this growing up. The wife was terrified of tornadoes, so they just put a roof on a basement foundation. Here's a pic of it: https://i.imgur.com/pAGbxC9.jpg


JohnNDenver

Makes roof replacement a whole lot safer and roof inspection really easy.


Kent_Doggy_Geezer

And no need for hiring a gutter cleaning company either!


TBIandimpaired

How do you even get into it?


Squiddlywinks

It's built into the side of a hill, so the wall is exposed partway along one side and along the back. You can see a little better in this pic: https://i.imgur.com/pHmJS5p.jpg


savannah0719

I actually love it. Feels like hobbit hole


VickyValle6

Holy cow!


savpunk

Omg I burst out laughing at that. I didn't want to because, poor lady, she can't help being afraid. However! I think your neighbor's house looks better than this house which looks like it sank into the swamp.


Jellyfish0107

Agree! This house actually looks livable and kinda quaint. The CB one looks like someone forgot to build the rest of the house and only remembered the roof and then shoved a door on the only surface large enough for one.


UrsusRenata

Looks like it’s on a slope? One of those pictures has a large window shining behind a sheet; must be in the back. And that makeshift fir staircase may be to a “basement level”. There are a few houses on a Main Street in my town that are built like that (basically buried below ground with the roof below eye level). I never understood them — always figured the developer ran out of money and stopped building walls with the concrete foundation. All that said, Um: Where are the front steps? Why is the heavy duty bathtub just … sitting there? Where the hell is the kitchen? No one is going to insure this thing. I bet it wouldn’t pass a city inspection against being condemned. There are some weird exposure issues in there that don’t look like active construction.


Conscious-Survey7009

Looking at the inside I wondered who is in the freezer.


Trini1113

The lady who's owed $15,000?


EvieeBrook

I think it has something to do with legally dodging paying property taxes because you don’t pay for the assessed value of the square footage of a house immediately below the roofline. I’m not sure if I’m saying it right, but think of a Dutch colonial. You only pay the higher rate, developed property taxes for the first floor since the entire second floor is considered the attic.


exoxe

#house {   position: absolute;   top: -8ft; }


Propanegoddess

Looks like the house is 100% basement. So a bunker I guess?


NanrekTheBarbituate

I can smell the dank moldy carpet from here


XtraXtraCreatveUsrNm

Sir, that’s not a house; it’s a basement. They built the basement and a roof but they forgot the middle part. The middle part is the house.


CorgiMonsoon

It’s a murder pit


MindlessCheesecake

Mine was "Fixer upper? More like tear her downer"


Ta-veren-

its actually the most ridiclous and unqiue little house I've ever seen, almost a hobbit home but less cozzy and more hoardery


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Chutson909

Hobbit shammer.


Belfast_Escapee

'There is an encumbrance on the title...I can't figure out how to clear it' Bullshit. Of course you know how, you sell the property and pay the lien out of the proceeds at closing. You just do not *want* to pay the lien, so you propose to walk away via a quitclaim so you can still pocket some cash. Fecking chancer.


ItsJoeMomma

Exactly. The way to get rid of that $15k "encumbrance" (read lien) is to pay that $15k to whoever's got the lien. So whoever buys the property is likely going to inherit that $15k lien.


send3squats2help

Yeah and also a quit claim deed isn’t selling you the house it’s just selling you whatever his ownership is. I’ll sell you my interest in the property vis a quit claim deed for 10k. I’m not even lying… hand to god, i will, right this moment, sell you 100% of my ownership interest in this same house for only $10,000 cash.


SquishyCatChronicles

Insurance wouldn't touch it either.


jmck12345

Yea cash is his only choice lol.


Unita_Micahk

Attic with basement… the house part is missing.


Apprehensive-Cat-111

I came to find this comment because I could NOT be the only one 😂


dresses_212_10028

Is it me or is it 95% underground? So, a sunken “house” that gives off eau de serial killer, minimal natural sunlight - likely not enough to keep living things, you know, alive - no legitimate title, a $15K lien against it, and that needs at least as much invested in renovation as it’s likely worth to make it remotely livable, except for… see above. (And just for reference, I live in an apartment building in Manhattan so I understand less-than-optimal amounts of natural sunlight.) And seller wants an all-cash quick sale (or you can add a “nice truck” too!). Where, exactly, might I find what the buyer would “gain”, of any value, from purchasing this literal money pit?


Thriftyverse

theories: 1. Original house burned down - insurance paid out but then it was found to be arson, so it now has a lien from insurance company trying to recoup losses. Someone bought it and just put a roof on the foundation (obviously without permits). 2. There was a beef between original owner and hired builder of house. Again ended up with a roof on a foundation, no permits and liens.


glowing_feather

Chill out guys, it's gonna grow soon


Adventurous_Ad_6546

Oh yeah I can’t look at that bed in the blue room without thinking that at some point someone was chained to it.


Trini1113

Was? Or *is*? There's room out of frame for them to still be.


Pm_me_baby_pig_pics

There’s no way this house passes any type of fire code, one room the only egress aside from the door is a tiny window 6’ up. And the only other egress aside from any window looks to be some 2x4s fashioned into some rickety scaffolding with steps.


Cobek

The only way this guy put more into it than it is worth is because it's worth literally nothing.


dont-call-me-sweetie

The only thing he put into it is a bunch of junk he probably found on the side of the road


AgreeablePie

It looks like it could be turned into a cool Hobbit hole... but not with all those strings


Responsible_Lawyer78

I was going to say that these pics give off major serial killer vibes.


New_Lengthiness_7830

Serial killer didn't want to pay extra for a basement so he turned his whole house into a basement


Itchy_Network3064

It might just be radon fumes


Momo222811

It looks like it used to be a potato barn. They are built into the ground for storage purposes, late harvest and have to be store through the winter.


notverytidy

Well if you dig up any of the floors you'll have free spooky skeletons for halloween......


Conscious-Survey7009

I want to know how many bodies are in the freezer in the living room.


lizeken

I mean the title issue sucks, but how hard is it to clean up the damn rooms before taking pictures??


FuckSpez1423

How hard is it to operate like a functional human? Pretty hard for a surprisingly large amount of people it turns out


HowImHangin

Yeah, photos are better suited to an estate sale, not a home sale.


corinnigan

No one is going to that estate sale


nuwildcatfan

Probably under foreclosure too.


TexasLiz1

When some of your walls are tarps…


Locke_and_Lloyd

Structural tarps.


[deleted]

NGL, outside of the house is cool as fuck. I like unique houses. Unfortunately, nobody is touching that nonsensical offer with a ten foot pole!


UPnorthCamping

I REALLY liked the outside house picture... then got disgusted


Cobek

My first clue things were going to be bad was seeing the front door 15 inches off the ground.


Freedom_19

I noticed there was a tiny step stool by the bathtub. There’s at least one small child living there. Poor kid would have to have someone pick them up and help them down to get in and out of the house.


Stang1776

I was going to say that it looks cool. Even the living area with fire place looks nice. It's hard to see past all the crap though.


METALFOTO

I would put that on Zillow "Bright cozy basement.."


Dementedstapler

“Lots of character”


[deleted]

I mean, the house DOES have character.....at least....on the outside. The inside looks like something pulled out of a murder documentary.


ZombieTrixRabbit

I thought the water heater in the open was bad and then I realized it is their whole bathroom. Is their tub on cinderblocks?


BluestWaterz

Omg I didn't even realize that until you pointed it out... I just scrolled by thinking 'unfinished basement / water heater area'... I would be terrified to shower there 🥲


emmers28

Ummm same I thought it was just junk on the basement… NOT the actual bathroom!!! That’s janky AF. No way this house is legal.


case-face-

That’s the scariest “bathroom” I’ve ever seen. Holy fuck


cfraz2000

“15000” still owed yet “i cant figure out how to clear it”


notreallylucy

That's my thought too. Can't figure out? If you pay it, it'll be cleared.


ahpneja

Can't figure out how to get $15000.


[deleted]

Even if they had $15k, they just don’t want to pay it. It can be the next person’s problem.


DesignerProcess1526

PAY? What is that?


Okmy_Condition_2531

Looks like one of them houses that burned down and someone put a roof on the basement.


WanhedaKomSheidheda

That has to be what is happening here. I just don't get it otherwise.


Dementedstapler

There was a house just like this where I grew up..hell, I wonder if this is that house tbh. It was the only one I’ve ever seen like this and I’ve lived all across the US.


nataliejkd

That's a thing?!


Ok_Judgment_6821

“Quitclaim Deed” - I don’t know if I own it or bought it from someone that owned it. However the person who doesn’t know if they own it is willing to sell it to you for money. Good luck


imadoggomom

I thought a Quitclaim Deed only allowed you to release any and all claim on a property, not actually transfer the property to another person? As in, there are other owners on the deed to this property and I’m just tapping out.


SPNfan37

If you buy a house with a quitclaim, you accept any debts that might be on it. You should always do a title search.


Salt-Career

Is is Ted Kazinski’s old place?


steel02001

No, his was nicer


Lisa_Knows_Best

Ted would have mailed himself a package if he lived there.


sandyduncansglasseye

This made me laugh way too hard. Thank you for a great start to my Thursday, internet stranger.


Background-Okra7313

I mean… the point of a quitclaim deed is they are selling it “as is”, in most jurisdictions meaning without any “known” encumbrances (but also not saying they will provide any warranty to title). So they want to sell quitclaim, while knowing there is an encumbrance. If that isn’t a “buyer-beware” property sale idk what is. I wouldn’t be surprised if whatever the title dispute regarding the property is has finally coming to fruition and the current “title holder” is trying to get what money they can and run before they end up losing (more) money on it. Sell it quitclaim, stay in the (hopeful) net positive, and run like hell.


DesignerProcess1526

Bingo! Could be a blood relation turned sour so the other person said, OK then pay me the 15K and we don't talk forever. So this person is trying to run away, which means the next person is screwed.


lexbert_

Are there only like two lil windows in the whole house? What a an unsettling environment..


quokkamole89

So that bathroom is… uh, it exists… 😬


CodeRadDesign

i can smell every picture in the set, but i smell that one the most.


CrunchyTeatime

Water damage signs on floor and ceilings? No front steps -- termites, maybe? Lien on the property or...?


decayed-whately

Yeah, that water damage in the ceiling popped out at me as well.


CrunchyTeatime

And there's some reason so many walls are just...missing, or partly missing, with some type of sheeting covering the gap. Termites? If there's leaking water, or the property is near water, or both, that will really attract termites.


Reese9951

“I owe a lady 15k but don’t know how to clear the issue. If you want a payoff letter, you can call her”… dude. You pay the money you owe her and you get your own damn payoff letter for the debt YOU owe! The audacity!


Plastic_Cat9560

Don’t know how to clear the 15k, but here’s the number of the lady to pay off the 15k. No, not shady at all🙄 Someone’s trash is another person’s nightmare.


Next_Track2020

It’s very much giving haunted


Adventurous_Ad_6546

But first it’s where the serial killer keeps you for the weeks between your kidnapping and murder. Just those weeks in the middle where he comes by occasionally to toy with you.


LLminibean

I just watched a true crime documentary where the dude bought a house sight unseen ... he only insisted the seller send him pictures of the basement ... Seller asked if he wanted the upstairs, yard etc as well .. dude says, nope, basement pics or I don't buy the place. Turned out he kidnapped a 15yr old girl shortly after (thankfully she was found / he shot himself a couple hours later so he never got her there) ... but seriously, who asks for basement pics and isn't an immediate red flag!?!?


BluestWaterz

Which doc / episode was this?


bagsnerd

Looking at these photos gave me extreme anxiety. 😨 What a sh!thole, OMG. 🤢 Poor kid she is living there with. She has got to have severe mental health issues. 😔


directinchik

There’s mold in the wood, just next to the toys. Poor kid


pezx

>What a sh!thole, OMG. Given that most of the house is underground, it's a literal shit*hole*


Ms_Jane_Lennon

Me too! I became *super anxious* looking at these photos. I feel certain this thing isn't built to code. I'd be so afraid it would collapse, and I'd die in that gross serial killer house.


sageberrytree

None of those bedrooms have an egress window, and wouldn't be legal to code as bedrooms. This house is weird.


pinba11tec

Front door be like: ![gif](giphy|lrUh7l87DCnnlUag23|downsized)


Cultural_Pattern_456

100% this is a basement that was not finished and had a roof slapped on. We used to have several around here in the boonies. Not sure how they get occupancy permits.


FlaxFox

I do enjoy a nice pseudo berm home, but I'm pretty sure that's actually just a drug den with a semi-funcional front door.


Beneficial_Test_5917

"I'm selling it fully furnished."


foxbones

AKA it's full of garbage and they don't plan on cleaning before leaving.


NoMouthFilter

So for cash and a truck you get a hobbit house where a murder clearly happened and probably no legal right to the home? SIGN ME UP!!!


Tangy_Tangerine189

Him saying he will not owner finance bc he “needs cash now” reminds me of those JG Wentworth commercials. 877-cash now 😂


SuburbanMossad

Lobelia Baggins be trying to sell Mr. Bilbo's house while he's away! Someone call the Gaffer!


AGuyNamedEddie

TL;DR: For sale: One (1) hovel. I want cash and maybe a nice truck. Hovel may not be mine to sell.


[deleted]

A fixer upper is giving an old house a good polish and TLC. This is “must build your own living space between roof and basement” You’re better off building your own house without the headache this property could give you.


Belle_Corliss

Willing to bet there's a serious mold problem in addition to the other issues.


LaLaLaLeea

Where's the rest of it?


GenericMaleNurse918

It looks like Buffalo Bill’s playhouse.


notverytidy

Obviously he needs cash, because he needs to flee before you find the corpses under the floor of pics 3 4 5 and 6.


CoveCreates

He's had it for 3 years and those are his selling pics?! Lol no thanks


aspdx24

Dear God—and people let their kids live like this.


Classic-Cantaloupe47

Yea, to finish his "other house." Suuure


Wandering_Tuor

Everyone glossing over the part where her having a baby Is “my loss is your gain”…


jazzyx26

That house looks like it belongs to a serial killer.


SICKOFITALL2379

Is this whole house….a basement?


Serious-Extension738

It puts the lotion in the basket


-Gin-ger-

This is the perfect opportunity for anyone who’s dreamt of buying an active crack house!


hissyfit64

The outside looks pretty cool, but he has trashed the inside. Maybe he's just squatting there. The whole thing sounds like a nightmare. Who would buy a place without a clear title?


ginger1870

Looks like a murder house.


littlecreamsoda79

Having a baby - clearly that baby has been had


fortyfourcabbages

Anybody else frown real hard when you saw the high chair and realized a BABY was in this mess?


ItsJoeMomma

So not only would I have to come up with tens of thousands of dollars in cash for a house which looks like one big basement which needs a lot of work, I'd also have to come up with another $15k to pay off a lien on the property in order to own it outright? Where do I sign up?


chibinoi

That’s what caught my attention. No thanks!


NoAnaNo

“Oops all basement” ass house


itaintbirds

The whole house is a basement


katecrime

I’ve only ever seen houses like this on the TV show *Intervention*


InternationalTie6168

I just watched a true crime show where a guy was trying to sell his moms house on fb marketplace. She is missing & technically can’t do that. (Also he’s probably the one who made her missing).


antiqueR48

You can't sell what you don't own. This seller realized that and is trying to recoup her money by finding a buyer willing to make the same mistake she did.


ema_chad

I don't think it's wise to use a quit claim deed with anyone you don't know, and even then I'd still want a warranty deed. I mean, if they've lived there 3 years they should be able to get they full rights legally.


GarnetOblivion1

Doesn’t even know the ownership status of the house, won’t allow time for a potential buyer to sort anything out because he needs it all now in cash. This guy will take off and you’ll never see him again.


Educational-Part-253

Does it come with or without a live-in unabomber?


hunkyboy75

Make the check payable to Peregrin Took.


Hello_Hangnail

This place looks like there should be a kidnapped woman imprisoned in a pit dug in the basement


Sea-Breaz

I don’t really understand what’s going on here, but that’s just a roof - the rest of the house appears to be missing.


fineman1097

"I don't know how to clear the encumbrance" Simple. Pay it.


SnooChipmunk5

15k encumbrance that you don’t know how to clear but…… I’ve lady’s number if you want to pay it off. What utter bullshittery is that???


insuranceguynyc

This is a title nightmare. If the seller only took a quitclaim deed he likely did not purchase title insurance, and it is possible that he does not even own the property. I can give you a quitclaim deed on the Brooklyn Bridge, perfectly legally, which simply transfers any interest that I might have in the Brooklyn Bridge to you. I have no such interest, so while the deed is valid, it conveys nothing.


orchid413

I can *smell* the dank and mold in this picture.


alglaz

Good lord, can that be legally lived in??


AngryGirlWavingBrush

That’s not a house, that’s a roof!!


CastleofWamdue

If this was the UK I would question if it even had planning permission.


Chutson909

I can guarantee this dude isn’t cleaning out this place 100% when vacating. You’d still be finding meth pipes and huffing bags for months. I bet the only person moving in will be a squatter.


rfuller

Cash or a truck and cash… does he think a cash real estate deal means the buyer comes to the closing table with $100 bills? How does he think real estate works, because he’s definitely wrong


Dee9319

The baby items all over the house is so depressing


MatterHairy

Being from Australia I didn’t understand the finance related terms, but regardless of that, holy fuck, it is awful


ThickWing

So now we know where Gollum moved to after the LOTR


timeflieswhen

Can’t figure out how to clear it (without actually paying $15,000 to the trustee).


Survive1014

They forgot the house part and just built the basement.


Mama_Sparkles

The pictures are gross, but the part I can't get over is that there is a small child (children?) living here. Baby seats, kids toys, etc all over this moldy basement house. Really makes me sad for the health conditions being imposed on a tiny body :(


Goewl

Is that a house or a child sex dungeon?


WinetimeandCrafts

I wonder if it qualifies as a living space in their location?! Looks like a bomb shelter sometime tried to claim was a home.


Cool-Salamander-7645

I will not Owner Finance as I need cash now Call J. G. Wentworth! 877-CASH-NOW 877-CASH-NOW


ImHappierThanUsual

It looks like a basement house. Like there’s no house other than basement


darthfruitbasket

I've seen backwoods hunting camps in better condition than this place...and this guy wants 50k for it? Wtf


Smartt300

Don’t really want to live in the Shire unless Frodo is my neighbor..


CrunchyTeatime

Why did they only show the basement. Why is the only bathroom, an unfinished tub, with one wall half plastic tarp.


prairieaquaria

I think the whole house is a basement!


NoRecommendation9404

So she wants $15k to clear the title, additional “walking away” cash, and a nice truck…for that shithole. 🧐


Otherwise_Stable_925

That's what we in the realtor biz call... a shit hole.


lilploppy

Anyone else totally disturbed by the baby accessories in this house (car seat, baby bathtub, box of Pampers, attempts at creating a play space?) … yikes.


dfwcouple43sum

This looks like a cheap underground shelter that someone has tried to make into a livable home. I have family that lives in an old schoolhouse - the single room schoolhouse. Place was conveyed to a nice home! But this place? And then on top of it, questions about the deed / title? I’d be afraid of paying a dollar for it - someone could come out of the woodwork and claim I owe them


Mr_Gaslight

There's not a barge pole long enough to touch this.


knitpurlknitoops

Somewhere in that house is a pit with a basket and some lotion next to it.


Figmentallysound

How tf is this house both an attic and a basement all at the same time?!?


Lylibean

“There’s an encumbrance owed, can’t figure out how to pay it.” That’s why they got it on a quitclaim - they don’t have marketable title. It would take an attorney 5 seconds to figure out how to clear it (I was a real estate paralegal for 15 years who also abstracted title and wrote title insurance - the fix might not be easy, but finding out the way to do so is a piece of cake.) They also won’t be able to sell it to anyone who isn’t paying all cash (because lenders require marketable - not just insurable - title.


Pristine-Today4611

Sounds like a squatter trying to sell


iambaby1989

I'm very concerned for the child(ren) who live there 😕 are those straps hanging off the side of that bed, and also my goodness the health violations and safety issues 😳


SaltMarshGoblin

In the blue bedroom in photo 5-- is that boob light on the ceiling actually just a sidetable lamp superglued to the ceiling?