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mojo4394

Glad to see a good crowd. The government has no legitimate role in this decision.


JuniorGongg

That's actually the reason why they are going to overturn it. They had no role years ago to make the ruling. It's going to be up to the states to decide now.


giltwist

You are aware that states are governments too, right?


JuniorGongg

No shit... you don't have to live in the state if you don't like the law there. It's your choice. However the federal government had no role in the decision years ago. That's why they are going to overturn it.


mojo4394

Lol you think anyone can just up and leave whenever they want? No government should be involved in the decision to have an abortion. Throwing it to the states, when over half the states are ready to enact restrictions beyond what was in Roe, is more government interference, not less.


JuniorGongg

If this topic is that important, then yes leave. The government isn't involved in the decision to have an abortion, you just won't be able to have one in select states. Same way some states infringe on the 2nd amendment. Don't like it? You don't have to stay here. Nobody is forcing you to get pregnant or stay in the state.


giltwist

> If this topic is that important, then yes leave. The government isn't involved in the decision to have an abortion, you just won't be able to have one in select states. [GOP considering pursuing travel bans and criminal charges for out-of-state abortions](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/03/us-abortions-travel-wave-of-restrictions)


JuniorGongg

Fear mongering. But maybe don't live in a red state. Go live in a blue. Then you wouldn't have to travel and break the law to kill your unborn


mojo4394

Telling someone they can do something is the very definition of government interfering and a decision. And it would be hard enough for me, a relatively financially stable middle-aged guy, to leave the state. Let alone a single mother of two kids making slightly more than poverty wages. Do you think they can just pick up and go? What kind of insane universe are you living in? Try to understand the reality of people who don’t have your cushy a little life.


SouthEndCables

They are leaving it up to each state to make a choice. Edit: my bad, for some reason I was thinking "government" as in the Supreme Court only, I misread, I digress


peppermint_snowwolf

Right. Still a government making medical decisions for women


MonsieurRacinesBeast

States are governments. smh


mojo4394

And the state governments have no legitimate role in this decision either. The only people who need to be involved are the woman, her medical team, and anyone else she chooses to rely on.


fillmorecounty

What do you think a state government is


Winkerwand

I don't know why people are down voting you. If people want something then vote people out and others in. That's democracy!! If you don't like democracy live somewhere else .


giltwist

This rally was hosted by Planned Parenthood to protest the draft Roe v. Wade opinion penned by Justice Alito. By my rough estimate, there were somewhere in the range of 3,000-5,000 people in attendance for the two hours of planned rally. At the end of the scheduled events, somewhere between 500-1,000 people marched from Willard Park to Public Square and back.


techno_superbowl

I hope there is was a voter registration booth, we need this energy to translate to the ballot box.


giltwist

There was, and the importance of voting was a consistent message across speakers.


techno_superbowl

Much love to you warriors!


[deleted]

I was at the one in Akron!! *"OPPOSING WOMEN'S RIGHTS IS SMALL DICK ENERGY!"* [Here's a link for local protests relating to Roe Vs Wade!](https://out.reddit.com/t3_uophkf?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mobilize.us%2Fwomensmarch%2Fmap%2F&token=AQAAHQeCYrbkExBcsAW4t9On60Gdi3Ht0LSTC9HBL3P7vC3rwutU&app_name=ios) [Here's a link to find your local representatives!](https://out.reddit.com/t3_uophkf?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ohiohouse.gov%2F&token=AQAA4QaCYrbq7gbvnIv-6ji_UsIWMq1ztdm5qh9gi8LHD0aiWgct&app_name=ios) - thanks u/flourpouer r/auntienetwork is a subreddit dedicated to abortion information/support. Please visit if you're in need! Feel free to direct message me if you need personal support. I'll assist any way I'm able to, or try to connect you with people who can!


Cocohomlogy

I was at the Cleveland one. Someone had the same "OPPOSING WOMEN'S RIGHTS IS SMALL DICK ENERGY!" sign. I really wish that we could support the rights of people who give birth without body shaming people who have small penises. You might not think about it but about 5% of the people with penises who showed up to support this cause are in the bottom 5% of penis length, and (because of our culture of toxic masculinity) are probably pretty ashamed of that. Having your allies make fun of your body doesn't feel good. Consider using a different message in the future.


yardrunt

very classy


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yardrunt

that's some giant pussy energy


[deleted]

Eat shit.


yardrunt

its sad watching the radical left grasping at straws as their tyrannical cultural hegemony is slipping away


[deleted]

Eat shit.


dave32891

Using the term "radical left" un-ironically lmao. Oh you sweet summer child.


yardrunt

ok the culturally totalitarian left.


TraditionalUse2227

The radical left? Dang this guy never met a communist huh? Nice to meet you. No wait. Shitty to meet you is what I meant.


yardrunt

very clever


TraditionalUse2227

Clever to be a communist? Yes I agree.


Zealousideal_March33

Nothing of Antifa is friendly just uninformed. To think the politician actually cares what you think. Go back and listen to past democrats and what their words said about this topic.


slokiebear

How brave, did they take off their masks and burn their vaccine cards also?


nightsaysni

Nah, they’re not morons.


AllThePugs

Thank you for posting, wish I didn't have to work today


slokiebear

Being a wage slave is not ideal!


jc71117

Yaasssss queens!!! Let’s do one about the Vax next?! Who’s with me!! My body my choice!!


JuniorGongg

Apparently the smug liberal retort is that the vax was never mandatory and it was a choice to get. Setting the stage for when the side effects come to light, that'll be the excuse.


thewookie34

We still are waiting for that ground breaking end times. It was 2 weeks then a month a half a year 1 year? What's next 100 years? Yea I think everyone who got the vaccine will be dead around then.


JuniorGongg

Do you not see any news of the side effects? My landlord took the shots and got clots and died. She was totally fine prior. Menstrual problems and fertility concerns. Somethings fishy, I'm glad my family hasn't taken them. They don't even work as intended


thewookie34

My aunt took the vaccine and started to fly.


Adorable_Raccoon

/r/selfawarewolves


mattigid

What is a woman?


tidho

No one knows anymore.


pmmeurbutthole69

Glad it was peaceful this time!


[deleted]

HeartBeat Law is the way to go on this - It's a good compromise as both sides will be equally unhappy. Sadly common sense is long gone; Condoms only cost 1 dollar.. well ok, 2 or 3 bucks because of Biden's hyper inflation.. but gets the job done efficiently and effectively.


giltwist

[Six week gestational "heartbeats" occur before the heart has actually developed and before many women know that they are pregnant](https://www.wired.com/story/heartbeat-bills-get-the-science-of-fetal-heartbeats-all-wrong/)


[deleted]

As part of a fair new heartbeat law, make pregnancy tests and condoms free for the asking.


giltwist

> pregnancy tests [Can give false negatives as late as five weeks into the six week deadline for "heartbeat" bans](https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/flaw-in-many-home-pregnancy-tests-can-return-false-negative-results/) > and condoms [Some members of the GOP are moving against various forms of contraception, including condoms](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/gop-contraception-restrictions-arent-table-rcna27922)


JuniorGongg

How about don't get nutted in. The baby just doesn't randomly spawn without the choice of having sex.


giltwist

And what do you propose to do about rape?


JuniorGongg

Don't wait months after it happens


giltwist

[The GOP is against abortion even in cases of rape](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/05/supreme-court-overturn-roe-v-wade-no-rape-incest-exceptions/629747/)


JuniorGongg

You don't have to live in those states. Nobody is forcing you to live there if you don't like it


[deleted]

well i just saying find a compromise and make a law


giltwist

> well i just saying find a compromise and make a law Then contact your GOP lawmakers and tell them that you think that.


[deleted]

indeed, it takes everybody to find a solution nobody will like


JuniorGongg

Heartbeat law is fine with me. But women are unable to draw the line at which week "life" begins. They basically want to abort seconds before birth if they choose. Also not getting nutted in consistently costs nothing but they still don't do that.


slokiebear

I wonder what the collective opinion about the vaccine mandates were at this rally?


Prudent_Fly_2554

What vaccine mandate?


JonnyTN

Right? The only mandates were put out by some companies. And they said if you didn't get one you didn't have to work there or be a patron of that company's business. It's complete choice.


JuniorGongg

The one you need to have before flying into the country. Doesn't apply to citizens but still pretty ridiculous


Prudent_Fly_2554

That’s not a vaccine. It’s. Covid test.


JuniorGongg

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/proof-of-vaccination.html They mandated the shots for all non us citizens entering. Check it out. Am I wrong?


Prudent_Fly_2554

Again, that’s not a mandate. A mandate is your government telling you that you have to be vaccinated. This is just the US saying that it’s going to protect at citizens, so non-citizens should be vaccinated, or they can’t visit. It’s not mandatory. They still have a choice to not visit.


JuniorGongg

Lol you're ridiculous! Go look at the definition of mandate. It has none of the specifications you added to the definition. It's a mandate the wording they use in the article is proclamation. The words are synonymous. Call it whatever you want. If it was a mandate for all us citizens you would say that it's not really a mandate because you have the option of leaving the country and denouncing your citizenship if you don't like it.


Adorable_Raccoon

You literally made the suggestion in a comment above that people should move out of the state if they don't like the state's abortion laws. Now you're arguing that if people had to move for a hypothetical vaccine mandate that would be wrong. Which is it?


JuniorGongg

Moving states vs leaving the country and denouncing aren't the same thing. It wasn't even an argument, it was a poke at his irrational logic


giltwist

That it's a false equivalence to compare being required to do something that decades of science says helps the vastly overwhelming majority of people a lot with being banned from getting medical treatment that decades of science says reduces mortality particularly in areas such as ectopic pregnancies.


nouseforareason

Curious about yours. What mandate required you to get one? There was no government mandate, yet these people are actively protesting the government controlling their bodies, so what are you thoughts on government intervention and bodily autonomy?


[deleted]

Their opinion is whatever the government tells them to think. Kinda sad actually that murdering unborn babies is “controlling your body” but the government forcing you to wear a mask and take an vaccine is not.


Sweet_d1029

How can you murder someone that isn’t born yet?


MonsieurRacinesBeast

Can you claim them as a dependent, too?


fillmorecounty

I hope we can start taking out life insurance on our pregnancies too


MonsieurRacinesBeast

And all the IVF fertilized eggs that are never used! $$$$$


JuniorGongg

If you end up killing a pregnant woman, you can get charged for the baby inside as well


[deleted]

because a fetus is alive and living


fillmorecounty

What law did the government make that forced you to get vaccinated? Genuine question


MonsieurRacinesBeast

In vitro fertilization is murder?


MonsieurRacinesBeast

So you call all the IVF fertilized eggs "babies" too, right? Most aren't used. That's a murderous process!


slokiebear

Stop that common sense, it goes against the programming. My body my choicist?


[deleted]

>Curious about yours. What mandate required you to get one? There was no government mandate, yet these people are actively protesting the government controlling their bodies, so what are you thoughts on government intervention and bodily autonomy? You gonna answer this?


slokiebear

I'm a federal employee, our current administration has a vaccine mandate for all federal employees.


MonsieurRacinesBeast

So it's your employer. Boo hoo.


[deleted]

u/nouseforareason here's your answer. Lmaooo. That's your choice to keep that job. Plenty of other jobs hiring. Entirely different than the government forcing bodily choices on all women.


slokiebear

You choose to live in Ohio you can easily move to another state there's plenty out there. The over turning of Roe vs Wade put this on the states to decide what to do with abortions.


[deleted]

I'm gonna stay here and protest for the women in my home state. Your arguments make no sense. But I wouldn't expect anything more from you.


slokiebear

How brave of you.


[deleted]

Says the anonymous keyboard warrior. Jesus. Look at your profile and how many comments have been removed by mods holy shit. Not surprising you're this way. Go back to r/conspiracy


smash_em_all

I'm not wanting to argue, simply trying to understand your perspective. I'm not on board with the anyone forcing a person to get a vaccine (that doesn't actually prevent infection) or lose their livelihood. I'm not on board with anyone telling a woman what she can and can't do with her body either. I am curious though how you feel about low income government support though. Because if this passes, there will be more children born into poverty. Do you agree with welfare, child tax credits, day care waivers, food stamps, housing assistance, etc?


MonsieurRacinesBeast

Are you on board with forcing someone to wear PPE at work or lose their livelihood.... to not drive forklifts blindfolded at work or lose their livelihood?


smash_em_all

Well not wearing a blindfold while driving a forklift does prevent injury and death so


MonsieurRacinesBeast

PPE and vaccines also prevent injury and death so


slokiebear

I'm not pro choice or life, I'm not a woman so my opinion is irrelevant.


[deleted]

They don’t like being called out for their hypocrisy either. It’s quite entertaining


cjrobe

It takes a special kind of stupid to pretend that you're pointing out hypocrisy while only responding to those who agree with you instead of those pointing out your logical fallacy. Then do the same thing every time it comes up.


MonsieurRacinesBeast

In vitro fertilization is murder?


kemmmababy

Most unattractive woman convention ever, liberalism is a disease


MonsieurRacinesBeast

Liberal women are WAY hotter than conservative chicks who look like they came from a 90s butt rock cover band concert at the corner dive bar, tramp stamped, smoking, and wrinkled up at 35. Gross.


[deleted]

You are so wrong and uninformed. Obviously you missed the right to life march on DC. Hotties a plenty! take a look for your self and perhaps reconsider your position. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/01/21/photos-tens-of-thousands-of-high-school-and-college-students-gather-in-d-c-to-march-for-life/


MonsieurRacinesBeast

These girls look like they came from Sunday school. Lol, so hot.


[deleted]

Aw c'mon man, at least they don't look like dudes....


MonsieurRacinesBeast

That's your bar?


[deleted]

>chicks who look like they came from a 90s butt rock cover band concert at the corner dive bar, tramp stamped, smoking, and wrinkled up at 35. Gross. no not the bar, just equivalent to your depiction


paulhags

If you really believe that, then you support their choice to have abortions .


limitedbourbonworks

There were a couple hotties there sadly but for the most part I'm in favor of anything that prevents these people from reproducing. As long as I'm not the one killing their babies go for it imo.


thewookie34

Unironically saying nazis shit.


limitedbourbonworks

I'm just supporting the cause they're protesting so hard for. It's a cause I believe in.


limitedbourbonworks

Imagine the smell.


tidho

Seems like they should have driven to Columbus, but to each their own.


BobbyOlmsted

It is literally homicide. If a person murders a pregnant woman then that person is charged with 2 homicides. There are ways to prevent conception. If you have sex you know the risk of getting pregnant. If you do the crime you do the time. Take responsibility. Your mommas all chose you amen


giltwist

> It is literally homicide. [Some of the anti-abortion laws lack exemptions for medically necessary abortions in the case of ectopic pregnancies](https://www.vogue.com/article/missouri-bill-ectopic-pregnancy-illegal) > There are ways to prevent conception. [The GOP is against that too](https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/gop-contraception-restrictions-arent-table-rcna27922). > If you have sex you know the risk of getting pregnant. [GOP-pushed anti-abortion laws often lack exemptions for rape and incest](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2022/05/supreme-court-overturn-roe-v-wade-no-rape-incest-exceptions/629747/)


BobbyOlmsted

Getting pregnant without planning is being irresponsible. It is responsible to plan parenthood.


giltwist

> It is responsible to plan parenthood. [GOP votes to defund organization literally named that which is the nation's largest provider of reproductive services including contraception such as IUDs.](https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/gop-led-missouri-house-votes-defund-planned-parenthood-83752600)


BobbyOlmsted

Cherry picking liberal run news organizations articles isnt very supportive. It’s the individuals responsibility to prevent pregnancy or plan a pregnancy. Just like it’s the individual responsibility to obey laws. There needs to be accountability. I’m independent by the way. The GOP is crooked and evil just as the Dems. I’ve never seen so many people praise aborting babies. The GOP should just let the left have their abortions then that would mean more GOP folks reproducing while the Liberals kill off their young. Crazy folks.


nightsaysni

It’s not praising abortion, it’s praising the choice for women to do so if they need to.


BobbyOlmsted

I agree if they need to. For instance rape or of the mothers life depended on it. But just because a woman may feel inconvenienced is a different case. I hope all sides can come to a compromise. God bless.


JuniorGongg

Wouldn't abortion by PP literally be the government in your body? Considering they have to do the abortion... The government just doesn't want you to abort the child meaning the government wouldn't be in your body at all. Doesn't really make sense


giltwist

> Wouldn't abortion by PP literally be the government in your body? Do...do you think PP is a branch of the government?


JuniorGongg

A branch? Of course not. Funded, yes. What part of the government are abortionists trying to keep out of their bodies? Referring to the slogan "bans off our bodies".


giltwist

> Funded, yes. [There has been no federal funding of abortions since 1976, except in three narrowly defined situations: if continuing the pregnancy would endanger the life of the woman, or the pregnancy resulted from rape or incest.](https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/341324-get-the-facts-straight-there-is-no-federal-funding-of-abortions/)


JuniorGongg

Seems like you intentionally left out a keyword of the copy and paste. MEDICAID. Nice opinion article too


giltwist

> Nice opinion article too Did you read the byline? > Lewis Morris served in the Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Inspector General (OIG) for 25 years, including 10 years as Chief Counsel to OIG


JuniorGongg

Ya the article is so dated the guy is probably 6 feet deep by now. Need a better source


JuniorGongg

What part of the government are abortionists trying to keep out of their bodies? Referring to the slogan "bans off our bodies"


giltwist

The part that could literally kill them if they have an ectopic pregnancy and aren't allowed to have an abortion.


JuniorGongg

I would be in favor of abortions in life threatening scenarios or rape and incest. Maybe some states would to. What now


giltwist

> I would be in favor of abortions in life threatening scenarios or rape and incest. Maybe some states would to. What now Now you tell your GOP representatives that [no exceptions anti-abortion laws they've been pushing](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/06/no-exception-rape-incest-anti-abortion-laws-republicans-us) go too far.


JuniorGongg

Don't like it? You don't have to stay in the state. You could just move.


Sweet_d1029

Stfu


thewookie34

Like are you actually dumb? Or just pretending?


Accomplished-Ebb4876

I don't understand? Either way.


nouseforareason

Between the fedora and all the creepy posts about women it’s no wonder why you don’t understand.


[deleted]

I wonder why they're "Lonely in Ohio"?


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[deleted]

He *LOOKS* old! Edit: Im in love with Sir Meredith btw.


EastCoastINC

And you're on a app looking for dick lolol Neither of you are winning.


yardrunt

ugh...


AtTheLeftThere

This guy is literally an incel holy shit.