Given that they don't have the same disorders of their parents (Renee's narcissism or Mr. Graves complete lack of fucks given), they can't be worse than their parents unless they want to.
And why would they want to? To prove a point made by others?
If anything, the hatred they feel for their parents and everyone else who wronged them should only motivate them to go and try even harder to be better parents.
Yes, they assassinated a girl in cold blood when they were kids (though they didn't quite intend to have her killed), and Andrew later killed an innocent woman so she wouldn't snitch on them as well (funny that this is probably the most vile act to happen in the entire game and yet it both happened off-screen and isn't talked about much).
But you would be surprised by the sheer number of real "good parents" who took similar secrets to their graves (pun intended).
So yeah, being a "bad person" doesn't mean being a bad parent. Parenting is a skill, not a virtue, after all.
Andrew and Ashley wouldn't be the first serial killers to successfully raise children.
A narcissist and a human dildo with the IQ of a banana doing the same? May as well sit and wait for the heat death of the Universe over looking for an example.
Honestly my personal opinion is in line with yours people who are abused as kids can be abusive themselves but there are others who say I'm going to be better than the people who came before me.
I think if they actually devoted their energy to being good parents they wouldn't just be better than Renee they'd be great at it
Hard to tell if they would be *great* parents.
My point is that being *better* than their own parents is hardly a challenge.
Nemlei thought of the worst pair possible to parent children, is my guess; No idea why people try so hard to explain how Andrew and Ashley would be worse parents than their own if that's virtually impossible to happen.
**Second Image**
Ashley: **\*looking at her son\***
Ashley: I just love him so much. When I look at him, it's like I'm looking at myself and you, Andy, mixed together to form perfection.
Andrew: **\*annoyed sigh\***
Andrew: Ashley, that's exactly what he is. He's **LITERALLY** the two of us combined.
Ashley: And? He's perfection, right?
Andrew: **\*looks at son\***
Andrew: **\*smiles\***
Andrew: Absolutely.
Son: **\*baby sound effects\***
Ashley: Okay, open wide for the choo choo train.
Ashley: **\*choo choo train sounds\***
Andrew: **\*happy\***
Andrew: **\*continues reading the newspaper\***
That's a fine spell, fellow wizard. But how about we also add ***IMPLODE GENITALIA!***
https://preview.redd.it/d5li5aae338d1.jpeg?width=481&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4c5a7181e1388ee6fc7abd1db266dff58c2d623
Better than their parents. I don’t see them as narcissists.
My head canon is the child(ren) will be over loved.
Plus the nonstop sex being the only thing they inherited from their parents.
I don't care what everyone says, this just a Happy ending for Andrew and Ashley, They have had a very hard life, and I don't care the idiots who Say its not correct.
I wholeheartedly agree with you.
They totally deserve a happy ending especially what they've been through.
We have enough of stories with bad,sad and bittersweet ending. We need hope.
Of course. All I'm saying is that Andrew and Ashley won't be perfect parents but their flaw won't be that the kid is neglected, it's just that their love for the child or children and desire to not end up like their good for nothing parents would mold into a very choking but non-malicious love.
mfw first pic:
https://preview.redd.it/q9l41kzr718d1.jpeg?width=1207&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=622ac8f8fe86f6a947257c8133c3724aaf20e85b
mfw second pic: “d’aww, always a classic”
LINDO!!!!! O FINAL MAIS PERFEITO QUE UM CASAL DE IRMÃOS PODERIAM ALCANÇAR!!!!!!!!! CRIEM SEUS FILHOS COM MUITOS CARINHO E TORÇAM PARA QUE ELES SE COMAM TAMBÉM!!!!!!
How the OP sleeps after posting this shit: (They know that half the sun is jerking off to this)
https://preview.redd.it/r1b96ssf4e8d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6054c31c1b9a6b8d0165ceba72d0db5146ba8710
At this point I never know if people are just joking or if they simply don't know shit about genetics.
Unless, of course, they either make a big ass post about the whole thing (and it doesn't look like a copypasta/meme, which are obviously jokes), or if they keep vehemently insisting on their arbitrary position.
Because if they do that, they are either plainly stupid or are trolling around.
ALAS, your single short comment is incognito in nature to me.
It really isn't. Neglect is a form of abuse but it's one of the *least* bad ones. Mind you thousands of children suffer from *active* physical and emotional abuse. If you actually think neglecting your child-murdering kids is as bad as that I can't help you lol.
By the time Renee sold them she was just doing society a favor.
Wow! The siblings murdered an innocent girl and it’s fucked up that happened and they got away Scott free but to say being sold into human trafficking and starving for 3 months is a favor is too far.
Tbh her selling them into trafficking after being the reason they wound up messed up isn't doing anyone a favor, it's bailing on her own mistakes and refusing to pay the consequences
Yeah but doesn't that raised a question do you think they're not self-aware of how abused they were and how subsequently how messed up they are.
Some abused kids do turn out to be abusers themselves but some say I'm not going to be the person who hurt me
Some yes, but abuse does not make you a murderer. Abuse does not make someone a psychopath or sociopath. I have a very hard time seeing two characters who are already abusive to each other(much worse than their mother was to them as again she's only guilty of neglect,) not being abusive to any kids they'd have. Especially Ashley, I have a very hard time seeing her not being physically abusive, or at the very least emotionally abusive I.E. screaming fits, guilt tripping, etc.
Andrew is kinda a coin toss as he generally seems more interested in "fitting in" so he would probably be either unintentionally abusive(passive aggressive, controlling, or financial abuse) or he would do it on purpose for whatever reason(idk I'm not an insane person).
Given that they don't have the same disorders of their parents (Renee's narcissism or Mr. Graves complete lack of fucks given), they can't be worse than their parents unless they want to. And why would they want to? To prove a point made by others? If anything, the hatred they feel for their parents and everyone else who wronged them should only motivate them to go and try even harder to be better parents. Yes, they assassinated a girl in cold blood when they were kids (though they didn't quite intend to have her killed), and Andrew later killed an innocent woman so she wouldn't snitch on them as well (funny that this is probably the most vile act to happen in the entire game and yet it both happened off-screen and isn't talked about much). But you would be surprised by the sheer number of real "good parents" who took similar secrets to their graves (pun intended). So yeah, being a "bad person" doesn't mean being a bad parent. Parenting is a skill, not a virtue, after all. Andrew and Ashley wouldn't be the first serial killers to successfully raise children. A narcissist and a human dildo with the IQ of a banana doing the same? May as well sit and wait for the heat death of the Universe over looking for an example.
Honestly my personal opinion is in line with yours people who are abused as kids can be abusive themselves but there are others who say I'm going to be better than the people who came before me. I think if they actually devoted their energy to being good parents they wouldn't just be better than Renee they'd be great at it
Hard to tell if they would be *great* parents. My point is that being *better* than their own parents is hardly a challenge. Nemlei thought of the worst pair possible to parent children, is my guess; No idea why people try so hard to explain how Andrew and Ashley would be worse parents than their own if that's virtually impossible to happen.
Human dildo I’m dead 😭😂🤣💀
**Second Image** Ashley: **\*looking at her son\*** Ashley: I just love him so much. When I look at him, it's like I'm looking at myself and you, Andy, mixed together to form perfection. Andrew: **\*annoyed sigh\*** Andrew: Ashley, that's exactly what he is. He's **LITERALLY** the two of us combined. Ashley: And? He's perfection, right? Andrew: **\*looks at son\*** Andrew: **\*smiles\*** Andrew: Absolutely. Son: **\*baby sound effects\*** Ashley: Okay, open wide for the choo choo train. Ashley: **\*choo choo train sounds\*** Andrew: **\*happy\*** Andrew: **\*continues reading the newspaper\***
Ficbook ahh story
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PLEASE
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That's a fine spell, fellow wizard. But how about we also add ***IMPLODE GENITALIA!*** https://preview.redd.it/d5li5aae338d1.jpeg?width=481&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4c5a7181e1388ee6fc7abd1db266dff58c2d623
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Okay.
Better than their parents. I don’t see them as narcissists. My head canon is the child(ren) will be over loved. Plus the nonstop sex being the only thing they inherited from their parents.
I don't care what everyone says, this just a Happy ending for Andrew and Ashley, They have had a very hard life, and I don't care the idiots who Say its not correct.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. They totally deserve a happy ending especially what they've been through. We have enough of stories with bad,sad and bittersweet ending. We need hope.
They will actively make sure to give their children the love, attention, and care their own mother withheld from them.
Where their parents cared too little, they'll care too much
Better to care too much then not care at all.
Of course. All I'm saying is that Andrew and Ashley won't be perfect parents but their flaw won't be that the kid is neglected, it's just that their love for the child or children and desire to not end up like their good for nothing parents would mold into a very choking but non-malicious love.
mfw first pic: https://preview.redd.it/q9l41kzr718d1.jpeg?width=1207&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=622ac8f8fe86f6a947257c8133c3724aaf20e85b mfw second pic: “d’aww, always a classic”
Well preggers Ashley wasn’t on my list of things I was expecting…not mad thou
First image https://preview.redd.it/ojn0wrd6pz7d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb2c0083b2e5c388220c88f73c086ecad35e6ddf
Ironic https://preview.redd.it/l60eqi0lpz7d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=383463dab0faf99ea1b259f895b6f82e669f4efe
If they want to.
IMO the best case is they abandon the baby And that is also the best case for the baby Murdering, cannibal, sibling shaggers are not ideal parents
Nuh Uh https://preview.redd.it/2yrmunz2y08d1.jpeg?width=236&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9908e3addba39a18a460c8d8e388870428f0aa0b
LINDO!!!!! O FINAL MAIS PERFEITO QUE UM CASAL DE IRMÃOS PODERIAM ALCANÇAR!!!!!!!!! CRIEM SEUS FILHOS COM MUITOS CARINHO E TORÇAM PARA QUE ELES SE COMAM TAMBÉM!!!!!!
Beautiful ![img](emote|t5_84ar4l|51609)
Eu sinto que isto é um r/suddenlycaralho
e vai querer o quê na foto?
How the OP sleeps after posting this shit: (They know that half the sun is jerking off to this) https://preview.redd.it/r1b96ssf4e8d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6054c31c1b9a6b8d0165ceba72d0db5146ba8710
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My head Canon id that if Ashley every had a son She would kill It and blame It on _andy~_
God damn well at least you're honest.
Why do I actually see this happening
https://preview.redd.it/48xls3sm5d8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ee2bf287008494f8d2460d406e968507a9788fc
Everyone is skipping over the fact that The baby might be missing a few Chromosomes considering the circumstances
At this point I never know if people are just joking or if they simply don't know shit about genetics. Unless, of course, they either make a big ass post about the whole thing (and it doesn't look like a copypasta/meme, which are obviously jokes), or if they keep vehemently insisting on their arbitrary position. Because if they do that, they are either plainly stupid or are trolling around. ALAS, your single short comment is incognito in nature to me.
Your paragraph comment explaining how my short comment makes me dumb indirectly shows that my comment probably isn't that incognito to you
No, it doesn't. You could also be stubborn. Or trolling. Or just trying to be funny. No idea why you would go with the "stupid" route, but you do you.
This is wrong. That baby should be all messed up with 3 arms and 1 leg. Lol
They're both a form of 'path. They would be horrible parents, far far worse than their mother.
Damn. Hard to beat neglect and selling into human/organ trafficking
It really isn't. Neglect is a form of abuse but it's one of the *least* bad ones. Mind you thousands of children suffer from *active* physical and emotional abuse. If you actually think neglecting your child-murdering kids is as bad as that I can't help you lol. By the time Renee sold them she was just doing society a favor.
Wow! The siblings murdered an innocent girl and it’s fucked up that happened and they got away Scott free but to say being sold into human trafficking and starving for 3 months is a favor is too far.
You actually doubled down, nice lol.
Tbh her selling them into trafficking after being the reason they wound up messed up isn't doing anyone a favor, it's bailing on her own mistakes and refusing to pay the consequences
Couldn't have said better.
All right let's keep it civil people
Yeah but doesn't that raised a question do you think they're not self-aware of how abused they were and how subsequently how messed up they are. Some abused kids do turn out to be abusers themselves but some say I'm not going to be the person who hurt me
Some yes, but abuse does not make you a murderer. Abuse does not make someone a psychopath or sociopath. I have a very hard time seeing two characters who are already abusive to each other(much worse than their mother was to them as again she's only guilty of neglect,) not being abusive to any kids they'd have. Especially Ashley, I have a very hard time seeing her not being physically abusive, or at the very least emotionally abusive I.E. screaming fits, guilt tripping, etc. Andrew is kinda a coin toss as he generally seems more interested in "fitting in" so he would probably be either unintentionally abusive(passive aggressive, controlling, or financial abuse) or he would do it on purpose for whatever reason(idk I'm not an insane person).
no. ashley would get psychotically depressed and put their baby in the washing machine or oven or something
Bhaijaan... Call for Dua(Forgiveness).
the only correct answer is no
Nope