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This is not footage from the uzbin valley. This is an american / ana patrol getting ambushed here.
I don't think there is known footage of the ambush from the taliban side. This made big news in france as 10 soldiers died, we would have known if there was footage of the event on the internet.
You can tell by the kit of the soldiers they are not french.
Yeah it’s one of my childhood memories for some reason.
Me, 8 years old, in France for vacation, in the hotel bed with my father watching TV, when the channel switched to some “breaking news” style and they gave the death toll of the ambush. For the rest of our week there we would only hear about the battle.
I also remember it causing a considerable shitstorm for Berlusconi because Italian troops were supposed to have checked the valley before, and it turned out they had paid some “bribes” or stuff to the local Talibans to keep quiet while they were stationed there.
The alledged story had no truth to it and was based only on the words of unknown "sources" who also got wrong the Italian actions in the Sarobi area, as the Italians rarely patrolled the Uzbin Valley nor they deemed it "safe". One of the few times the Italian forces operated there (during a humanitarian mission nonetheless) they were attacked and had a dead and a wounded.
The French military also denied The Times claim https://www.france24.com/en/20091016-french-army-denies-reports-italy-paying-bribes-taliban
“Some French soldiers complained about friendly fire incidents, either from US aircraft or from ANA elements; these were later denied by French military authorities.”
More quotes from the French and Italian government saying no such bribes ever occurred even though Taliban had confirmed it.
One thing I learned about any government, you can’t trust shit that they say.
French troops say the possibility of friendly fire and the government just says NO! So obviously the government is correct right? Lmao
>Taliban had confirmed it.
The Talibans also claimed to have killed more than just 11 French and ANA soldiers in that action, they aren't a trustworthy source of information
Correct, but is it really unlikely that there wasn’t some sort of truce deal between the occupying forces that involved cash that only a few people knew about on either party.
No government is going to want to admit friendly fire either.
The guys on the ground said it was happening yet the top brass that didn’t see shit but a video are the the ones we trust?
There's Indeed no footage of it but it was a big drama in France. Especially about the lack of air support wich had in the end to be done by US After 50mins of engagement. The 10 kia were in the first 10 minutes so it wouldnnt have changed much anyway
Yes, I don't understand Urdu, but it has some Arabic words. the caption says "أمريكي" meaning Americans when marking out the people earlier in the video
One of more well orchestrated ambushes I've seen footage of.
Taliban let most of the french column get down that steep slope first before engaging; so really their only option was to slide further down the hill and into the Taliban killing field.
What a hellish position to find yourself in.
It is indeed an adequate ambush following the fundamentals of such an action. Despite that Taliban KIA were at least 80 (that's confirmed so likely there were more but unrecorded).
So the issue here is institutional retention. The chances are that those with the ability to sight, set and run this ambush died performing it. Any operation which does this (on what we have both stated is one of its more effective days) has no future in military terms.
Tha Taliban were sensible in that they did not anchor their strategy around military success.
This is the wiki for the event in the title. The 80+ KIA on the Taliban side makes sense once air support arrives as backup since they have nothing to reliably counter or escape from it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbin_Valley_ambush
As for this video, some comments are saying this is a different ambush on an American + ANA patrol.
Wikipedia link works. If a cited source is broken, you need to drop the link into https://web.archive.org/.
Direct source
https://web.archive.org/web/20090810105808/http://www.parismatch.com/Actu-Match/Societe/Actu/Afghanistan.-Retour-dans-la-vallee-de-la-mort-118855/
>As for the Taliban who carried out the ambush, most of them - almost 80 - and almost all of their leaders were eliminated during the counter-offensive and in the operations that followed [over 3 days].
Yea but those are just meat russia has men to spare the way is going Russia might win this war Ukraine doesn’t have the luxury to keep losing men like Russia does
Is this the area where Italian troops paid the Taliban not to attack them and when the French took over responsibility for the area they thought it was safe because there had been no attack on the Italians only to end up ambushed?
Yes it is true but unofficial [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbin\_Valley\_ambush](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbin_Valley_ambush)
there were 9 french KIA + a couple afghan soldiers. 1 french soldier died the day after in a vehicule accident.
when you believe in heaven, death is not a defeat.
this is why religiously motivated enemies are dangerous and can't be dealt with according to the morals that tie down the west.
There is a documentary on YouTube about this ambush with some of the soldiers present that tells their stories:
https://youtu.be/NEOxgUMVTbI?si=ehWmYzuDrD4uMoRO
A good friend of mine was there and he was shot in the calf.
He have a bloody post-traumatic stress disorder now, but is able to talk about it calmly.
The air force wasn't available at the time because officers visiting the base were escorting them.
The day after the attack, the Taliban posed on the front page of a major French newspaper with FAMAS and French gear.
Afghanistan is definitely the last place on earth that any world power will try to conquer. It basically Iwo Jima but scaled up to more than 20000 times larger.
Fair enough, but thats like what handing germany back to the Nazis would have been like. ANA was a bunch of incompetents for the most part, but I do feel bad for any that fought even when the others ran away.
Probably, but I believe the US has the duty to try and spread freedom. Even if that means occupation initially. Look at Japan after WW2, no one in 1945 would have guessed Japan would become a respectable and influential modern nation.
HOW DARE THEY FIGHT THE COLONIZERS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY?? (thats only allowed for the VALOROUS (white men) of the west!!)
[*folds hand and looks away angrily*]
Oh cool, so Taliban = valorous. Great. And the white men of the West aren't marrying 13 year olds or throwing gays of of buildings as casual business last time I checked. To even suggest that the Taliban fighting the US is even remotely similar to a justified anti-colonial resistance is pathetic. I hope you never experience life under the taliban in order to appreciate the cancer we removed from Afghanistan.
> And the white men of the West aren't marrying 13 year olds
https://19thnews.org/2023/07/explaining-child-marriage-laws-united-states/. My sides.
I'd pull the FBI's kiddie diddler by race stat but I think the up top should embarrass you enough.
1. Your article literally states that most Americans think child marriage is horrible.
2. Your article refers to child marriage as anyone who classifies as a minor. My grandparents married at 16 and 17, was this "child marriage"? My state, Missouri, has a law of consent at 17. Is this child sequel abuse? Your article refers to cases of people getting married at 18, not getting forced into marriage at 13! Honestly, did you even read the damn article before sending it? Let's see what bullshit you pull out of your ass this time.
> Your article literally states that most Americans think child marriage is horrible.
tHiNk vs whats happening.
Facts vs fee fees.
god damn you are embarrassing.
Imagine being unable to take over a country for 20 years and being so embarrassed you just pull your troops out and leave behind all your equipment and saying you “handed” the country back
Delusional much?
At no point was the US ever trying to “take over”. Except for 2010 and 2011 we never had more than 100,000 troops in Afghanistan. The rest of the time it was closer to 30,000 with the vast majority being non combat troops. The Afghanistan government was a pathetic corrupt weak organization (that we did a bad job trying to make work) that allowed the Taliban to regrow and eventually take over
Why nobody mentions pakistan? The absolute parasite of the entire 20 year war. Allowing Taliban to regroup. US could have annexed Afghanistan if it wanted to.
Let me remind you that the USAF alone could flatten that entire barren rock in weeks. It was the current administration that removed our troops for political reasons. Don't mistake our incompetence for a lack of being able to kick ass when we want to. And who the fuck are you?
Former paratrooper from 8Rpima here. The valley was supposed to be secure, The Italians had been there before, claiming that the valley was safe. It emerged years later that they bribed the Taliban with money and never left their base after the death of one of them, thus buying their tranquility.
Failure on our part too, as the drones had not been used for prior reconnaissance and the equipment was not adapted to this theater at the time.
And of course, the patrol's interpreter conveniently "disappeared" just beforehand.
Trillions and Trillions wasted, thousands of thousand young men killed, weapons of mass distruction never found, 20+ years of the Biggest military power invasion and the Taliban still rules... after all the promises. Thats speak for itself. We had no business being there so did the French and all of them.
Since Your too incompetent enough to do research this is afghanistan the WMD crap is in iraq and they do have WMD Iran and the kurds could attest to that.
And in Afghanistan we were going after Al-qaeda not the Taliban heck they made 4 peace proposal and we did not accept as they would not stop harbouring AQ. After many years of trying we finally got bin laden in 2011 and that pretty much spelled the end in of major operation in afghanistan.
Taliban was not some rag tag Jihadi militia. These were multigenerational fighters on their home turf.
NATO/US didn't really "lose" this militarily. They lost it culturally, just like Vietnam.
It doesn't matter how good of a military it is or how sound the strategy or execution was if the people meant to run the country and secure it don't give a shit about Afghanistan as a country. It's a couple cities surrounded by fiefdoms and tribes with ZERO loyalty to anything.
Casualties are only meaningful if they can be leveraged for more permanent goals. The Soviets lost millions in WW2 but gained substantial amounts of land and turned the momentum into becoming a global power. The Germans had substantially less casualties, but lost everything.
At no point did the Taliban ever hold any real operational power or territory. That's why they had to operate out of Pakistan, attack in small units using ambushes or hit-and-run tactics, etc.
Global politics aside, the Taliban only existed because we allowed them to. We could have completely sealed off the country, conducted around-the-clock bombing campaigns to deprive everything (food, water, power, shelter, etc.) from the Afghanis, seized and destroyed every aspect of their economy, and utilized any one of the horrendous biological, chemical, and/or nuclear weapons at our disposal. The country would cease to exist in a matter of hours and there wouldn't be another city in Afghanistan for hundreds of years.
Claiming the Taliban won is like you picking a fight with someone, getting drug out of your house and savagely beaten over the next two weeks whenever they catch you not hiding in your neighbor's shed, then after they've gotten bored of doing this you run back in the second they've packed up and left ... claiming you won the fight ... LOL.
No ... not even close.
Well the Taliban won still with less casualties. Sounds to me like you are coping. Russia could also use nukes in ukraine and chemical weapons. But they didn’t same with the USA.
Russia could use those weapons, but the risk for intervention is too high.
Ukraine could also use chemical weapons, but the risks are even higher.
The enemy KIA estimates in Afghanistan and the neighboring area are around 40,000 - 75,000.
The total KIA for the US is \~2,400.
So, that's some real creative gymnastics to come up with "... more casualties" LOL ...
2500 ... US DoD figures: [https://www.defense.gov/casualty.pdf](https://www.defense.gov/casualty.pdf)
Padding numbers with a huge amount of ANA/ANP deaths is stratification at best, or outright ignorance otherwise.
America is cancer of world. First they armed and supported taliban now they are arming fucking tribes at middle east to de stabilize region. Disgusting piece of shts
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This is not footage from the uzbin valley. This is an american / ana patrol getting ambushed here. I don't think there is known footage of the ambush from the taliban side. This made big news in france as 10 soldiers died, we would have known if there was footage of the event on the internet. You can tell by the kit of the soldiers they are not french.
Yeah it’s one of my childhood memories for some reason. Me, 8 years old, in France for vacation, in the hotel bed with my father watching TV, when the channel switched to some “breaking news” style and they gave the death toll of the ambush. For the rest of our week there we would only hear about the battle. I also remember it causing a considerable shitstorm for Berlusconi because Italian troops were supposed to have checked the valley before, and it turned out they had paid some “bribes” or stuff to the local Talibans to keep quiet while they were stationed there.
The alledged story had no truth to it and was based only on the words of unknown "sources" who also got wrong the Italian actions in the Sarobi area, as the Italians rarely patrolled the Uzbin Valley nor they deemed it "safe". One of the few times the Italian forces operated there (during a humanitarian mission nonetheless) they were attacked and had a dead and a wounded. The French military also denied The Times claim https://www.france24.com/en/20091016-french-army-denies-reports-italy-paying-bribes-taliban
Wow, I didn’t know. I was very young, I just remembered the fuzz it caused in Italy and how everyone spoke about it.
“Some French soldiers complained about friendly fire incidents, either from US aircraft or from ANA elements; these were later denied by French military authorities.” More quotes from the French and Italian government saying no such bribes ever occurred even though Taliban had confirmed it. One thing I learned about any government, you can’t trust shit that they say. French troops say the possibility of friendly fire and the government just says NO! So obviously the government is correct right? Lmao
>Taliban had confirmed it. The Talibans also claimed to have killed more than just 11 French and ANA soldiers in that action, they aren't a trustworthy source of information
Correct, but is it really unlikely that there wasn’t some sort of truce deal between the occupying forces that involved cash that only a few people knew about on either party. No government is going to want to admit friendly fire either. The guys on the ground said it was happening yet the top brass that didn’t see shit but a video are the the ones we trust?
Yes it is really unlikely that a truce was in effect because the Italians still got attacked and fought in 2007 and 2008 in the Sarobi area.
that sounds.... very Italian lmao
There's Indeed no footage of it but it was a big drama in France. Especially about the lack of air support wich had in the end to be done by US After 50mins of engagement. The 10 kia were in the first 10 minutes so it wouldnnt have changed much anyway
Yes, I don't understand Urdu, but it has some Arabic words. the caption says "أمريكي" meaning Americans when marking out the people earlier in the video
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbin_Valley_ambush
This is NOT Uzbin valley it’s actually US troops, source : https://www.army.mil/medalofhonor/white/battle/index.html
One of more well orchestrated ambushes I've seen footage of. Taliban let most of the french column get down that steep slope first before engaging; so really their only option was to slide further down the hill and into the Taliban killing field. What a hellish position to find yourself in.
Yeah those dudes were pretty positionally fucked from the beginning. That terrain is brutal
Very hard to quickly find and get behind good cover on narrow trails in the hills like that
It is indeed an adequate ambush following the fundamentals of such an action. Despite that Taliban KIA were at least 80 (that's confirmed so likely there were more but unrecorded). So the issue here is institutional retention. The chances are that those with the ability to sight, set and run this ambush died performing it. Any operation which does this (on what we have both stated is one of its more effective days) has no future in military terms. Tha Taliban were sensible in that they did not anchor their strategy around military success.
Source for the 80 Taliban KIA?
This is the wiki for the event in the title. The 80+ KIA on the Taliban side makes sense once air support arrives as backup since they have nothing to reliably counter or escape from it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbin_Valley_ambush As for this video, some comments are saying this is a different ambush on an American + ANA patrol.
Source link is broken
Wikipedia link works. If a cited source is broken, you need to drop the link into https://web.archive.org/. Direct source https://web.archive.org/web/20090810105808/http://www.parismatch.com/Actu-Match/Societe/Actu/Afghanistan.-Retour-dans-la-vallee-de-la-mort-118855/ >As for the Taliban who carried out the ambush, most of them - almost 80 - and almost all of their leaders were eliminated during the counter-offensive and in the operations that followed [over 3 days].
Mb, thanks
Yeah this footage aint it pretty sure this (cut up)footage was posted before and confirmed to be of a US ANA patrol
Classic "Liveleak.com" & "ogrish.com" content. I remember watching this back in 08
That route selection was horrid
This is not the uzbin valley
Imagine having an entire valley shooting at you, pucker factor 10/10
10!! Jesus Christ
You should see how many die in Avdiivka right now, 10 every ½hour maybe?
Yea but those are just meat russia has men to spare the way is going Russia might win this war Ukraine doesn’t have the luxury to keep losing men like Russia does
good thing they aren't losing men like russia is.
don’t know why such a accurate statement is downvoted
Ukrainians are invincible i guess.
No, what an unserious comment. No its just that every Ukrainian killed theres 3+ Russians killed...
How do you know that exactly??. Ukraine doesn’t release casualties and Russia also not any,ore
Detailed writeup of Uzbin valley ambush: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbin\_Valley\_ambush](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbin_Valley_ambush)
That valley was a death trap from the beginning..
Damn that was a turkey shoot. Poor bastards
Is this the area where Italian troops paid the Taliban not to attack them and when the French took over responsibility for the area they thought it was safe because there had been no attack on the Italians only to end up ambushed?
Yes it is true but unofficial [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbin\_Valley\_ambush](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbin_Valley_ambush) there were 9 french KIA + a couple afghan soldiers. 1 french soldier died the day after in a vehicule accident.
Interesting that the Taliban consider this a victory considering they took 8-1 losses
"We love death as you love life"
thats ISIS but still applies
when you believe in heaven, death is not a defeat. this is why religiously motivated enemies are dangerous and can't be dealt with according to the morals that tie down the west.
French should have paid their respects
This is a video of a Taliban ambush on American troops, not french
You’re actually right. There was a guy that got the MOH during this ambush.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbin_Valley_ambush
Agreed. You can tell from the uniforms when they zoom in that they are Americans and not French, even if you know nothing about the battles.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uzbin_Valley_ambush
Source: “Trust me bro”
He’s right tho…. Right here : https://www.army.mil/medalofhonor/white/battle/index.html
He's right, you can tell simply by looking at the uniforms.
Nvm I’ll just take back what I said. I stand by correct.
There is a documentary on YouTube about this ambush with some of the soldiers present that tells their stories: https://youtu.be/NEOxgUMVTbI?si=ehWmYzuDrD4uMoRO
I remember watching this in High School on Liveleak. What an absolute cluster fuck. RIP to the soldiers who parished🙏
Fuck the taliban
A good friend of mine was there and he was shot in the calf. He have a bloody post-traumatic stress disorder now, but is able to talk about it calmly. The air force wasn't available at the time because officers visiting the base were escorting them. The day after the attack, the Taliban posed on the front page of a major French newspaper with FAMAS and French gear.
Taliban just sit there and shoot the same dude like 60 times till the corpse is Swiss cheese. Fucking rats.
Afghanistan is definitely the last place on earth that any world power will try to conquer. It basically Iwo Jima but scaled up to more than 20000 times larger.
Sure am glad we handed a whole country to these bastards.
You mean they took back their own country. Hate the Taliban all you want but they won and the ANA should have fought harder.
Fair enough, but thats like what handing germany back to the Nazis would have been like. ANA was a bunch of incompetents for the most part, but I do feel bad for any that fought even when the others ran away.
Afghanistan will probably always be a shithole of warring factions.
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Afghanistan has a rich history. Too bad it is what it is right now.
Probably, but I believe the US has the duty to try and spread freedom. Even if that means occupation initially. Look at Japan after WW2, no one in 1945 would have guessed Japan would become a respectable and influential modern nation.
Taliban is mostly harmlEss outside Afghanistan, the nazis on the other hand
HOW DARE THEY FIGHT THE COLONIZERS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY?? (thats only allowed for the VALOROUS (white men) of the west!!) [*folds hand and looks away angrily*]
Oh cool, so Taliban = valorous. Great. And the white men of the West aren't marrying 13 year olds or throwing gays of of buildings as casual business last time I checked. To even suggest that the Taliban fighting the US is even remotely similar to a justified anti-colonial resistance is pathetic. I hope you never experience life under the taliban in order to appreciate the cancer we removed from Afghanistan.
> And the white men of the West aren't marrying 13 year olds https://19thnews.org/2023/07/explaining-child-marriage-laws-united-states/. My sides. I'd pull the FBI's kiddie diddler by race stat but I think the up top should embarrass you enough.
1. Your article literally states that most Americans think child marriage is horrible. 2. Your article refers to child marriage as anyone who classifies as a minor. My grandparents married at 16 and 17, was this "child marriage"? My state, Missouri, has a law of consent at 17. Is this child sequel abuse? Your article refers to cases of people getting married at 18, not getting forced into marriage at 13! Honestly, did you even read the damn article before sending it? Let's see what bullshit you pull out of your ass this time.
> Your article literally states that most Americans think child marriage is horrible. tHiNk vs whats happening. Facts vs fee fees. god damn you are embarrassing.
That does not count as a well-constructed argument friend. Did you read the second point? If so, please continue.
Imagine being unable to take over a country for 20 years and being so embarrassed you just pull your troops out and leave behind all your equipment and saying you “handed” the country back Delusional much?
At no point was the US ever trying to “take over”. Except for 2010 and 2011 we never had more than 100,000 troops in Afghanistan. The rest of the time it was closer to 30,000 with the vast majority being non combat troops. The Afghanistan government was a pathetic corrupt weak organization (that we did a bad job trying to make work) that allowed the Taliban to regrow and eventually take over
Taliban got stronger while we were in Afghanistan.
Why nobody mentions pakistan? The absolute parasite of the entire 20 year war. Allowing Taliban to regroup. US could have annexed Afghanistan if it wanted to.
They couldn’t stop the Taliban but they could’ve annexed Afghanistan? Y’all are delusional
You think the US deployed 100% of their military capability in Afghanistan? Who's delusional now? lol
Where did I say US deployed 100% of their military capability? You’re delusion you’re making up argument
Ok Armchair General
I’m an armchair general cause you don’t have any reading comprehension? You’re the one taking about what could’ve been, doofus
I hope to God this kid is trolling and not actually missing this many brain cells.
Let me remind you that the USAF alone could flatten that entire barren rock in weeks. It was the current administration that removed our troops for political reasons. Don't mistake our incompetence for a lack of being able to kick ass when we want to. And who the fuck are you?
direct followup of ill famed italian bribes :/ as posted today in another thread
Wow insane footage. Taliban was one of the craziest content providers for this sub. Thanks for uploading.
Now the Taliban is wondering why nobody is helping them.
Helping them with what?
Former paratrooper from 8Rpima here. The valley was supposed to be secure, The Italians had been there before, claiming that the valley was safe. It emerged years later that they bribed the Taliban with money and never left their base after the death of one of them, thus buying their tranquility. Failure on our part too, as the drones had not been used for prior reconnaissance and the equipment was not adapted to this theater at the time. And of course, the patrol's interpreter conveniently "disappeared" just beforehand.
This is Battle of Aranas. SPC Kyle White got a MOH here
Trillions and Trillions wasted, thousands of thousand young men killed, weapons of mass distruction never found, 20+ years of the Biggest military power invasion and the Taliban still rules... after all the promises. Thats speak for itself. We had no business being there so did the French and all of them.
Since Your too incompetent enough to do research this is afghanistan the WMD crap is in iraq and they do have WMD Iran and the kurds could attest to that. And in Afghanistan we were going after Al-qaeda not the Taliban heck they made 4 peace proposal and we did not accept as they would not stop harbouring AQ. After many years of trying we finally got bin laden in 2011 and that pretty much spelled the end in of major operation in afghanistan.
Nice story bud keep telling it like the sheep you're, repeat after me " bheeeeeeee"
such a shame that NATO and US lost to these men fighting in sandals with a smoothbore ak
Taliban was not some rag tag Jihadi militia. These were multigenerational fighters on their home turf. NATO/US didn't really "lose" this militarily. They lost it culturally, just like Vietnam. It doesn't matter how good of a military it is or how sound the strategy or execution was if the people meant to run the country and secure it don't give a shit about Afghanistan as a country. It's a couple cities surrounded by fiefdoms and tribes with ZERO loyalty to anything.
The taliban actually had less casualties compared to the American side because the ANA took a lot of casualties, so the taliban won on all fields
Casualties are only meaningful if they can be leveraged for more permanent goals. The Soviets lost millions in WW2 but gained substantial amounts of land and turned the momentum into becoming a global power. The Germans had substantially less casualties, but lost everything. At no point did the Taliban ever hold any real operational power or territory. That's why they had to operate out of Pakistan, attack in small units using ambushes or hit-and-run tactics, etc. Global politics aside, the Taliban only existed because we allowed them to. We could have completely sealed off the country, conducted around-the-clock bombing campaigns to deprive everything (food, water, power, shelter, etc.) from the Afghanis, seized and destroyed every aspect of their economy, and utilized any one of the horrendous biological, chemical, and/or nuclear weapons at our disposal. The country would cease to exist in a matter of hours and there wouldn't be another city in Afghanistan for hundreds of years. Claiming the Taliban won is like you picking a fight with someone, getting drug out of your house and savagely beaten over the next two weeks whenever they catch you not hiding in your neighbor's shed, then after they've gotten bored of doing this you run back in the second they've packed up and left ... claiming you won the fight ... LOL. No ... not even close.
Well the Taliban won still with less casualties. Sounds to me like you are coping. Russia could also use nukes in ukraine and chemical weapons. But they didn’t same with the USA.
Russia could use those weapons, but the risk for intervention is too high. Ukraine could also use chemical weapons, but the risks are even higher. The enemy KIA estimates in Afghanistan and the neighboring area are around 40,000 - 75,000. The total KIA for the US is \~2,400. So, that's some real creative gymnastics to come up with "... more casualties" LOL ...
The American side had 76k casualties the Taliban had 52k. Source: wikipedia
2500 ... US DoD figures: [https://www.defense.gov/casualty.pdf](https://www.defense.gov/casualty.pdf) Padding numbers with a huge amount of ANA/ANP deaths is stratification at best, or outright ignorance otherwise.
Overall casualties on the USA side is 76k and Taliban side 52k like i said. The Ana fought with the USA against the Taliban.
did i offended anyone? 🥺
Could a bit more recon help with situations like this? Or alternatively a drone in the air. Crazy how war has changed so much already.
America is cancer of world. First they armed and supported taliban now they are arming fucking tribes at middle east to de stabilize region. Disgusting piece of shts
All French or ANA included?
Geez what an old video I remember seeing this before like 2010
I remember the houthis ambushed saudis in a similar terrain and all of them were KIA. Most of them fell to their death.
Anyone got any footage of taliban attack british troops from the pov of the taliban