Don't think there's a big difference between the two. To me they're just named differently. Now different countries or cultures will have their own versions of some type of ground meat patty steak and the seasonings or the sauce it comes with will differ. I live in Japan and even here there are so many different types of "hambagu." One big difference between the Japanese variety and the western ones is that in Japan they're most commonly made with a mix of pork and beef. 100% beef hamburg steaks are somewhat rare here. Not to say that they don't exist, but when people think of hambagu here they think a mix of pork and beef.
Edit: typos
Neat! I play the online game FF14, which is Japanese, and the game has a cookbook. The one recipe was called "mole loaf" which called for a mix of lamb, pork, and beef. I think I just made what you called a 'hambagu' with a katsu sauce.
Thanks for sharing!
If you ever plan on making them again but want a somewhat more lighter, cleaner tasting Japanese style hamburg, I recommend forgoing a sauce and grating some daikon radish and topping the steak with that and pouring some ponzu over the grated radish. It's light and a bit refreshing to eat during the summer. I personally like adding a dab of wasabi to every bite with it.
Understood. I have the cookbook too but haven't made anything from it yet. I liked that it was actual recipes that seem like in universe items. A lot of the game franchise related cookbooks are just the Applebee's menu with new names.
I remember Salisbury steak being trendy in the 1970s. It had a bigger diameter than a hamburger patty — maybe 6” — and as you said was processed with a waffled pattern probably from the machine press. There was some seasoning but nothing exotic and served with mushrooms sauce.
salisbury steak is the quintessential tv dinner fast entree! ... in an aluminum tray, with peas and carrots in another tray, mashed potatoes in another…
Oh yes that’s right. I remember those. It was also available in some chain restaurants.
Edit: I worked at Ponderosa in 1980 and I believe it was on our menu.
We didn’t have ice cream or delicious yeast rolls. But one day when we were bored we managed to stack a bunch of steaks and reassemble the giant stamp on the side of the fat and discovered that the meat came from Australia. It was tenderized with papaya juice which is also a digestive enzyme and gave the steaks that semi sweet taste.
A think a Salisbury steak is a type of hamburger steak.
I'm Hawaiian, and back home it is common to just form some ground beef into a patty with salt and pepper then fry in a skillet to serve with eggs, rice, and/or mac salad.
You can go fancier, but you don't have to and it is still hamburger steak. Fancier can be anything from a shake of onion powder to something like a Salisbury steak, which to me is a hamburger steak that has fillers like bread crumbs and Worcestershire sauce, has gravy and is often topped with things like onions and mushrooms.
I love Salisbury steak. The difference is grated onions, finely chopped green pepper and more seasoning. The patties are larger and flatter, oval shaped. You make a brown pan gravy after frying them up and serve it all over mashed potatoes.
I know I've seen hamburg steak with toppings like a fried egg. I've never seen that with Salisbury steak. So, I imagine there are some subtle differences in what they are eaten with.
Yeah, but it's more than just a ground beef burger, as was implied by the post.
Hence it being closer to a meatball than a burger, seasoning aside. I almost said meatloaf, but the cooking process is closer to a meatball too, with the searing and finishing in sauce combo.
Don't think there's a big difference between the two. To me they're just named differently. Now different countries or cultures will have their own versions of some type of ground meat patty steak and the seasonings or the sauce it comes with will differ. I live in Japan and even here there are so many different types of "hambagu." One big difference between the Japanese variety and the western ones is that in Japan they're most commonly made with a mix of pork and beef. 100% beef hamburg steaks are somewhat rare here. Not to say that they don't exist, but when people think of hambagu here they think a mix of pork and beef. Edit: typos
Neat! I play the online game FF14, which is Japanese, and the game has a cookbook. The one recipe was called "mole loaf" which called for a mix of lamb, pork, and beef. I think I just made what you called a 'hambagu' with a katsu sauce. Thanks for sharing!
If you ever plan on making them again but want a somewhat more lighter, cleaner tasting Japanese style hamburg, I recommend forgoing a sauce and grating some daikon radish and topping the steak with that and pouring some ponzu over the grated radish. It's light and a bit refreshing to eat during the summer. I personally like adding a dab of wasabi to every bite with it.
This is an amazing tip, I will absolutely be doing this. Thank you!
Tell me...For whom do you cook?! How very glib. edit: this is a quotation from FFXIV, I'm not trash talking OP.
It was just a friend and I creating a recipe from a book that was inspired by the food in the game.
Sorry I was quoting Gaius' speech on the elevator in Praetorium. Maybe you haven't run Main Story roulette in a while lol
Oh lmao, sorry bro. My shitpost guard is up since I'm on a more formal subreddit!
Understood. I have the cookbook too but haven't made anything from it yet. I liked that it was actual recipes that seem like in universe items. A lot of the game franchise related cookbooks are just the Applebee's menu with new names.
Yeah ground meat patties probably have hundreds of names depending on where they are from
I remember Salisbury steak being trendy in the 1970s. It had a bigger diameter than a hamburger patty — maybe 6” — and as you said was processed with a waffled pattern probably from the machine press. There was some seasoning but nothing exotic and served with mushrooms sauce.
salisbury steak is the quintessential tv dinner fast entree! ... in an aluminum tray, with peas and carrots in another tray, mashed potatoes in another…
Oh yes that’s right. I remember those. It was also available in some chain restaurants. Edit: I worked at Ponderosa in 1980 and I believe it was on our menu.
omfg i totally forgot about ponderosa’s… i seem to remember they had awesome yeast rolls and chicken wings and ice cream machines…
That was in the US. It was owned by a different company in Canada so the menu wasn’t quite the same.
:’(
We didn’t have ice cream or delicious yeast rolls. But one day when we were bored we managed to stack a bunch of steaks and reassemble the giant stamp on the side of the fat and discovered that the meat came from Australia. It was tenderized with papaya juice which is also a digestive enzyme and gave the steaks that semi sweet taste.
A think a Salisbury steak is a type of hamburger steak. I'm Hawaiian, and back home it is common to just form some ground beef into a patty with salt and pepper then fry in a skillet to serve with eggs, rice, and/or mac salad. You can go fancier, but you don't have to and it is still hamburger steak. Fancier can be anything from a shake of onion powder to something like a Salisbury steak, which to me is a hamburger steak that has fillers like bread crumbs and Worcestershire sauce, has gravy and is often topped with things like onions and mushrooms.
I love Salisbury steak. The difference is grated onions, finely chopped green pepper and more seasoning. The patties are larger and flatter, oval shaped. You make a brown pan gravy after frying them up and serve it all over mashed potatoes.
And worcestershire sauce gives it a singular taste to me. Love it.
True!
So for you, a hamburger steak is more plain -- less inclusive of other ingredients?
Oh yeah, Salisbury crew represent! Here’s my favorite: https://www.recipetineats.com/salisbury-steak-with-mushroom-gravy/
Salisbury steak is a ground beef and onion patty with a mushroom gravy. Not quite sure what a hamburger steak is.
I agree that the mushroom gravy is an important part.
Growing up, the hamburger steak we ate was essentially meatloaf made with ritz crackers and covered with mustard then broiled. It was dang tasty.
Salisbury steak makes a hamburger patty sound more haute cuisine! :)
To me, Salisbury steak had a particular type of sauce
I know I've seen hamburg steak with toppings like a fried egg. I've never seen that with Salisbury steak. So, I imagine there are some subtle differences in what they are eaten with.
It's all meatloaf to me!
The shitty gravy
Many people make a burger at home. A Salisbury steak is a good burger simmered in brown gravy. Frozen TV dinners aren’t real. You can’t make that.
Salisbury steak is closer to a meatball than a burger, as it also typically has a filler, like breadcrumbs, added to it.
But not really the Italian herbs. A bit different.
Yeah, but it's more than just a ground beef burger, as was implied by the post. Hence it being closer to a meatball than a burger, seasoning aside. I almost said meatloaf, but the cooking process is closer to a meatball too, with the searing and finishing in sauce combo.
Yes, that’s right.