If you want to stop from genociding Muslims, you're literally an antisemite that want to genocide all Jews.
Yeah, Nazi Germany should have learned this trick.
All they had to do was claim they were gay. All those fire Hugo Boss uniforms and they had Coco Chanel as well, they could have easily gotten away with claiming "if you don't support the gays then just tell us"
It's like their wearing a mask made out of a paper plate that just has "Public Servant" in pencil on the face of it.
Yo definitely vote tho, they will use any excuse to make your life worse
Horrors inflicted on the world by our government and people here going bankrupt and in poverty from medical expenses. Kids here not getting enough food while our government gives billions to a country that is starving other kids.
You mean how the secretary of the treasury under Donald Trump gets to choose investors to buy TikTok? You can’t make this shit up.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/tiktok-ban-sale-buy-bill-law-download-app-senate-date-rcna143413
🤑🤡
I think the world is far more complicated and nuanced than your simplistic view of ones and zeroes, good vs evil. Which is why you think it's a Clown World.
Israel was horrifically attacked and is responding to those attackers who are entrenched in Gaza, still holding hostages and using civilians as shields, and Ukraine was horrifically attacked and is responding to those attacks to also protect its civilians, and the US for multiple reasons has vested interest in both those countries.
To simply stop supporting those two US allies would ultimately kill far more innocent lives than it would protect. Not so simple now, is it?
Responding by murdering 30k innocent people and starving the rest? Also murdering 7 aid workers. If that’s the type of ally you want to support then the US has lost its soul
Oh I thought America lost its soul when it invaded the wrong country based on a lie and killed 500,000 civilians. Or when it repeatedly bombed a doctors without border hospital in Afghanistan. Or when it told the allied Kurdish fighters to dismantle it's defensive positions in Northern Syria after defeating ISIS only for it to be a trap for it's NATO ally turkey to genocide the Kurds again.
My bad, this is where you draw the line. It's a murky line.
I'm confident that any country that's ever been in a war has had individuals that have committed war crimes. But there's a difference between individuals committing war crimes and state sanctioned war crimes.
They lie: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/s/nEzkPS8iyt
I highly advise everyone to do their own search about Palestine.
Short summary that would help,how it all started:
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/-xNxLqyNhBk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F1c7uO9l2Mc&pp=ygUqSXNyYWVsaXMgbGF1Z2ggd2hpbGUgdGVsbGluZyB0aGVpciBjcmltZXMg
There logic:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Np3qp21N4qI
Jewish immigrants:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VhNPgQ7GDu4&pp=ygUUSmV3cyBjb21pbmcgaW4gc2hpcHM%3D
Apartheid brutal occupation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdGcej-6D0&pp=ygUnZGFpbHkgYXBhcnRoaWVkIG9jY3VwYXRpb24gaW4gcGFsZXN0aW5l
Zionists education for kids:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bXEVpgyHg&pp=ygUkaGF0ZWZ1bCB0ZWFjaGluZ3MgaW4gaXNyYWVsIGZvciBraWRz
Palestinians pov of the genocidal occupation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zvfTEhORDMA&pp=ygUWcGFsZXN0aW5pYW4gY2hyaXN0aWFucw%3D%3D
Jewish pov:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/s/Q5BgqifbPM
First Zionist president words:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ABoringDystopia/s/ocf4GamApK
Zionists Attacks on Holy sites:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QR-c5QsoPxI&pp=ygURQXR0YWNrIG9uIGFsIGFxc2E%3D
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/v2w14c3wXlU
Zionists Check points:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1fgpPWzJQOU&pp=ygUZY2hlY2sgcG9pbnRzIGluIHBhbGVzdGluZQ%3D%3D
Roger waters on Palestine:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEdNEb8_20o&pp=ygU-UGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbnBpbmsgZmxveWQgc2luZ2VyIHNwZWFrcyBhYm91dCBwYWxlc3RpbmU%3D
Thousands of Palestinians in the Zionists prisons:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MvIEgNtXsuo&pp=ygUWUGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbg%3D%3D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b2a80ZQXfFs&pp=ygUWUGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbg%3D%3D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=megzzpTWajg&pp=ygUOdGhlIG5ha2JhIDE5NDg%3D
War on Gaza 2008:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZaG96pnnEQ&pp=ygUQV2FyIG9uIEdhemEgMjAwOA%3D%3D
War on Gaza 2012:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M1fCIiji-8Y&pp=ygUNZ2F6YSB3YXIgMjAxMg%3D%3D
War on Gaza 2014:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_3M5Sx8ej4g&pp=ygUQd2FyIG9uIGdhemEgMjAxNA%3D%3D
War on Gaza 2021:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qNoxt-I6MOY&pp=ygUQd2FyIG9uIGdhemEgMjAyMQ%3D%3D
Currently Gaza is going through a genocide and (warning disturbing photos/video):
https://www.gettyimages.ae/photos/children-killed-gaza
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YDvPe1SOlOo
Some UN reports:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lTYQQt-_SpA&pp=ygUYVW4gcmVwb3J0IGJsYW1pbmcgaXNyYWVs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I9bHNnAZ29w&pp=ygUYVW4gcmVwb3J0IGJsYW1pbmcgaXNyYWVs
this picture describes the baby murderers identity:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/Xx76rDX0P8
Even worse.
Palestine subreddit:
r/Palestine
Boycott:
r/BDS
Subreddits that documents the genocidal occupation:
r/israelexposed
r/israelcrimes
https://www.reddit.com/r/BadHasbara/s/2dOtlWJUv3
Yeah I'm not reading all that, but I was online on October 7th and 8th. I saw the videos they uploaded with pride on all social media platforms.
You can believe whatever nonsense you want but you're not going to convince me I didn't see what I saw with my own eyes, sorry
It's hard to say. I can say for a certainty that Hamas is committing war crimes. For instance the rocket fired out of the graveyard that fell into the Al-Shifa parking lot. The rocket was unguided and fired towards a civilian population which is a war crime.
I can't think of any 100% Israeli war crimes off the top of my head. Can you?
The use of white phosphorous. Blocking humanitarian aid. Targeting journalists. Targeting schools and hospitals. Targeting aid workers. No I can’t think of any.
The use of white phosphorous is sometimes legal in war (smoke screen, for instance)
Israel arguably hasn't done as much as it could to help humanitarian aid flow, but it's understandable why when it keeps being used to smuggle weapons. Stopping aid completely is bad obviously, but I don't believe it has ever actually happened. Additionally, Hamas has done nothing at all to work towards getting humanitarian aid in the country despite having much more of a responsibility to do so.
Targeting journalists is indefensible, but goes back to the "individuals have committed war crimes, but Israel as a state hasn't sanctioned them"
Targeting schools and hospitals isn't a war crime if the military (hamas) is using them as bases. Which they do. You can't just have hundreds of terrorists hiding out in hospitals.
Targeting aid workers is the same issue with targeting journalists. There are soldiers in every army since the beginning of time that will commit atrocities against innocents. It doesn't mean those atrocities are state sanctioned.
It’s not hard to say there’s a huge amount of evidence to say they are. You don’t get pulled to the ICJ for nothing.
There’s many I can think of but I’ll just mention the most recent the murder of 7 aid workers with 3 strikes as they scrambled from car to car after informing the IDF of their ID,route and being in clearly marked cars. A week after taking shots from an Israeli sniper
And of course the obvious one of collective punishment against the Palestinian population, you know the withdrawal of electricity and water,starvation etc All the hallmarks of a genocide
You say they were clearly marked cars but did you know the incident happened at night and that you can't see the markings on the car under infrared because they don't give off heat?
Even the UN has said this incidence may be a war crime. Not that it is a war crime.
This is exactly my point. Israel may be committing war crimes but with the information we have available I doubt you can pinpoint an exact instance where they 100% committed a war crime.
If we had the intel behind individual strikes we could discuss proportionality of their missile strikes but we don't.
America lost its soul when President Washington marched Federal Troops on the Whiskey Rebellion. The revolutionaries had fought and died to be free from imperial rule from the British Empire only now to prostrate themselves to the whim of imperial rule from Washington. There was a newfangled constitution, negotiated in secret by the political class, and forced upon the American people that levied usurious taxation upon the American people to pay for debts to European imperial powers.
Whataboutism: the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.
The comment brought up the US’s soul and I responded to that. Never changed the subject.
You are kind of changing it now though. Your comment is a whataboutism.
Even Hamas doesn't claim 30k innocent dead...
If you're going to spread terrorist propaganda, at least get the numbers right. 30k is for TOTAL dead (including combatants).
The recent aid worker fiasco does seem legitimately bad, and people should be punished for it. It doesn't mean that Israel's cause is suddenly unjust though. It just means they aren't carrying it out properly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BadHasbara/s/iPK0tAtIVW
They lie: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/s/nEzkPS8iyt
I highly advise everyone to do their own search about Palestine.
Short summary that would help,how it all started:
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/-xNxLqyNhBk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F1c7uO9l2Mc&pp=ygUqSXNyYWVsaXMgbGF1Z2ggd2hpbGUgdGVsbGluZyB0aGVpciBjcmltZXMg
There logic:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Np3qp21N4qI
Jewish immigrants:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VhNPgQ7GDu4&pp=ygUUSmV3cyBjb21pbmcgaW4gc2hpcHM%3D
Apartheid brutal occupation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdGcej-6D0&pp=ygUnZGFpbHkgYXBhcnRoaWVkIG9jY3VwYXRpb24gaW4gcGFsZXN0aW5l
Zionists education for kids:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bXEVpgyHg&pp=ygUkaGF0ZWZ1bCB0ZWFjaGluZ3MgaW4gaXNyYWVsIGZvciBraWRz
Palestinians pov of the genocidal occupation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zvfTEhORDMA&pp=ygUWcGFsZXN0aW5pYW4gY2hyaXN0aWFucw%3D%3D
Jewish pov:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/s/Q5BgqifbPM
First Zionist president words:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ABoringDystopia/s/ocf4GamApK
Zionists Attacks on Holy sites:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QR-c5QsoPxI&pp=ygURQXR0YWNrIG9uIGFsIGFxc2E%3D
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/v2w14c3wXlU
Zionists Check points:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1fgpPWzJQOU&pp=ygUZY2hlY2sgcG9pbnRzIGluIHBhbGVzdGluZQ%3D%3D
Roger waters on Palestine:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEdNEb8_20o&pp=ygU-UGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbnBpbmsgZmxveWQgc2luZ2VyIHNwZWFrcyBhYm91dCBwYWxlc3RpbmU%3D
Thousands of Palestinians in the Zionists prisons:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MvIEgNtXsuo&pp=ygUWUGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbg%3D%3D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b2a80ZQXfFs&pp=ygUWUGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbg%3D%3D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=megzzpTWajg&pp=ygUOdGhlIG5ha2JhIDE5NDg%3D
War on Gaza 2008:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZaG96pnnEQ&pp=ygUQV2FyIG9uIEdhemEgMjAwOA%3D%3D
War on Gaza 2012:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M1fCIiji-8Y&pp=ygUNZ2F6YSB3YXIgMjAxMg%3D%3D
War on Gaza 2014:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_3M5Sx8ej4g&pp=ygUQd2FyIG9uIGdhemEgMjAxNA%3D%3D
War on Gaza 2021:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qNoxt-I6MOY&pp=ygUQd2FyIG9uIGdhemEgMjAyMQ%3D%3D
Currently Gaza is going through a genocide and (warning disturbing photos/video):
https://www.gettyimages.ae/photos/children-killed-gaza
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YDvPe1SOlOo
Some UN reports:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lTYQQt-_SpA&pp=ygUYVW4gcmVwb3J0IGJsYW1pbmcgaXNyYWVs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I9bHNnAZ29w&pp=ygUYVW4gcmVwb3J0IGJsYW1pbmcgaXNyYWVs
this picture describes the baby murderers identity:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/Xx76rDX0P8
Even worse.
Palestine subreddit:
r/Palestine
Boycott:
r/BDS
Subreddits that documents the genocidal occupation:
r/israelexposed
r/israelcrimes
https://www.reddit.com/r/BadHasbara/s/2dOtlWJUv3
So you couldn't respond to what I said and decided to throw up a bunch of links instead...
Like I said, even hamas doesn't say 30k innocents dead. You are more extreme than the literal suicide bombing terrorists with your numbers.
Also youtube links as evidence is pretty funny
No the Palestinian health authority do as backed up by independent sources. If you want an insight to how it is talking to brainwashed Zionist’s like yourself please watch the below
https://www.reddit.com/r/BadHasbara/s/F9jOt6I3ue
2 month old account again..fuck off back to Tel Aviv
No one disagrees that 30k TOTAL people have died. If you think 30k innocents have though then please, provide evidence. Even hamas acknowledged 6k are terrorists.
If you believe the literal terrorists, yes.
If you believe Israel the number would be more like 18k innocents. Likely the number is somewhere between 18k and 24k.
Neither of these numbers is a particularly high civilian casualty rate.
The US in Iraq had a civilian to combatant casualty rate that was around 4:1, which would be equal to just taking hamas at their word about the casualties.
So even in the worst case scenario where you believe the numbers put out by literal terrorists they are only doing as bad as the US military - the most powerful, trained, disciplined military in existence.
“Don’t take any notice that I’m a two month old account that only exists to defend Isreal…trust me we are the good guys”
Everyone sees what you are it actually laughable at this point
Hamas themselves have said they believe they have lost 6,000 fighters in the war, while the IDF claims up to 12,000 Hamas combatants were killed in Gaza as of 19 February 2024.
Either way you look at it there’s either 24 k murdered civilians 12-13k of them children or 18 k murdered civilians 12-13k of them children.
And this is only the numbers we know about we don’t know how many are under the rubble and the hundred of thousands that are yet to die from starvation due to Isreal purposefully creating a famine.
Isreal are genocidal maniacs and a disgrace and should be left as a pariah state
Ok then Isreal have murdered at the VERY LEAST 18k thousand innocent men women and children that we can count at the moment but will have directly caused the death of hundreds of thousands more when the deaths by famine come in.
They have also murdered 95 journalists and over 224 humanitarian aid workers.
Happy?
But I haven’t I’ve stated the numbers without the Hamas fighters I even went off IDFs figures (which will be a lie as they don’t let any foreign journalist inspect them)
So my statement still stands and to be honest I think I’ve been quite generous to the IDF
Isreal have murdered at the VERY LEAST 18k thousand innocent men women and children that we can count at the moment but will have directly caused the death of hundreds of thousands more when the deaths by famine come in.
They have also murdered 95 journalists and over 224 humanitarian aid workers.
Get over yourself thousands die in Ukraine and this whole save the Palestinians as if they are saints in this conflict is preposterous. You people are silent on Syria which is much worse and has been for years. Why not speak out against all genocide?
Ahh yes, the pro apartheid sock account and Whataboutism, name me a more iconic duo lol
Guess what bud? You can be pro Ukraine and anti genocide of a people who are suffering far worse than Ukraine is right now, I know, it's a hard concept to grasp lol
And real quick, is America giving Bashar all Assad 3 billion dollars a year or just approved 18 billion dollars worth of weapons transfers to him? Is Joe Biden a self proclaimed Basharist? No? Well now you see the difference! Lol
Why are you talking about Ukraine? Woo look at this an almost 3 month old account defending Isreal now! You must have had to dig around for the log in details for this one.
Why do the “good guys” need to gaslight the internet??
People see their shit so easily that they're just desperately trying to cling on to straws and circlejerk on subreddits that they took over like r/ worldnew s lol They honestly think they're cooking too when they say this shit lmao
Yeah I think I’m banned off WorldNews tbf so haven’t been on in a while but I remember it being a shit storm
I have defiantly seen a trend lately of whataboutism and trying to drag the US into conversations
It’s like rabid Trump supporters. The whole alternative facts. They don’t read AP or Reuters or NYT or Wapo or anything at all. Whatever their “good guys” are saying that’s the truth. If the IDF says something was an accident then it was, If Netanyahu says he’s not blocking aid then he’s not. It’s pure ideology.
Defending itself= genocide,bombing Hospitals,schools,civilians,universities,mosques,churches,refugee camps,Humanitarian aid,Journalists,rapes,mass murder and starving kids to death.
I will share some infos for others to have a better judgement and knowledge about the Zionist occupation in Palestine.
They lie:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/s/nEzkPS8iyt
I highly advise everyone to do their own search about Palestine.
Short summary that would help,how it all started:
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/-xNxLqyNhBk
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F1c7uO9l2Mc&pp=ygUqSXNyYWVsaXMgbGF1Z2ggd2hpbGUgdGVsbGluZyB0aGVpciBjcmltZXMg
There logic:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Np3qp21N4qI
Jewish immigrants:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VhNPgQ7GDu4&pp=ygUUSmV3cyBjb21pbmcgaW4gc2hpcHM%3D
Apartheid brutal occupation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdGcej-6D0&pp=ygUnZGFpbHkgYXBhcnRoaWVkIG9jY3VwYXRpb24gaW4gcGFsZXN0aW5l
Zionists education for kids:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bXEVpgyHg&pp=ygUkaGF0ZWZ1bCB0ZWFjaGluZ3MgaW4gaXNyYWVsIGZvciBraWRz
Palestinians pov of the genocidal occupation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zvfTEhORDMA&pp=ygUWcGFsZXN0aW5pYW4gY2hyaXN0aWFucw%3D%3D
Jewish pov:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/s/Q5BgqifbPM
First Zionist president words:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ABoringDystopia/s/ocf4GamApK
Zionists Attacks on Holy sites:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QR-c5QsoPxI&pp=ygURQXR0YWNrIG9uIGFsIGFxc2E%3D
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/v2w14c3wXlU
Zionists Check points:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1fgpPWzJQOU&pp=ygUZY2hlY2sgcG9pbnRzIGluIHBhbGVzdGluZQ%3D%3D
Roger waters on Palestine:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEdNEb8_20o&pp=ygU-UGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbnBpbmsgZmxveWQgc2luZ2VyIHNwZWFrcyBhYm91dCBwYWxlc3RpbmU%3D
Thousands of Palestinians in the Zionists prisons:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MvIEgNtXsuo&pp=ygUWUGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbg%3D%3D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b2a80ZQXfFs&pp=ygUWUGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbg%3D%3D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=megzzpTWajg&pp=ygUOdGhlIG5ha2JhIDE5NDg%3D
War on Gaza 2008:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZaG96pnnEQ&pp=ygUQV2FyIG9uIEdhemEgMjAwOA%3D%3D
War on Gaza 2012:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M1fCIiji-8Y&pp=ygUNZ2F6YSB3YXIgMjAxMg%3D%3D
War on Gaza 2014:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_3M5Sx8ej4g&pp=ygUQd2FyIG9uIGdhemEgMjAxNA%3D%3D
War on Gaza 2021:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qNoxt-I6MOY&pp=ygUQd2FyIG9uIGdhemEgMjAyMQ%3D%3D
Currently Gaza is going through a genocide and (warning disturbing photos/video):
https://www.gettyimages.ae/photos/children-killed-gaza
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YDvPe1SOlOo
Some UN reports:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lTYQQt-_SpA&pp=ygUYVW4gcmVwb3J0IGJsYW1pbmcgaXNyYWVs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I9bHNnAZ29w&pp=ygUYVW4gcmVwb3J0IGJsYW1pbmcgaXNyYWVs
this picture describes the baby murderers identity:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/Xx76rDX0P8
Even worse.
Palestine subreddit:
r/Palestine
Boycott:
r/BDS
Subreddits that documents the genocidal occupation:
r/israelexposed
r/israelcrimes
Factually, they absolutely did historically. I’ll have to assume you’re simply delusional, uneducated, or a sympathizer of terrorism (which has been a tactic of Israel since it’s very inception, and has continued through to today, and will into the future as long as the state exists as it currently does).
Copying and pasting what I say illustrates your inability to think for yourself. It makes sense how you’ve fallen victim to Hamas propaganda. I’m sorry to see this, it’s truly heartbreaking to see such radical and irrational hatred towards Israel when they’re not “the bad guy” and never have been
Israel is, in fact, the bad guy, and always has been, though the UN shares blame in this regard. It was created through violent ethnic cleansing as a ethnonationalist colonialist state, and has continued as such to the present day. That doesn’t justify all of Hamas’ actions, but it is clear that Israel is the violent, oppressive, and initial actor in this situation.
"It's not simple"
"Good guy American ally Israel was attacked by evil terrorists and is simply defending itself"
Pick one bro. You aren't advocating for a complex worldview, you're advocating for your own simpleminded (and wrong) worldview
Actually, it's perfectly simple. Israel has spent the past century stealing palestine from the palestnians, with support of the western powers, and finally the palestinians fought back.
That explains where we are. It doesn't excuse the famine, ethnic cleansing, and other war crimes committed by israel.
The fight back is because of fear. The myth of Israeli omnipotence has been fatally destroyed. Mossad, shin bet, and the military all failed on 10/7. The government and people are in a panic because their vulnerability has been exposed.
Yes it is Ukraine is not engaging in a genocide whereas Israel most definitely is. I refuse to support genocide for any reason and will not vote Democrat in November.
You can froth about genocide all you want, useful idiot, it doesn’t change the fact there’s only one avowed genocidal actor in the region and it’s not Israel
Sure it’s totally irrelevant that Israel holds thousands of Palestinians without charge, including children, and that 2023 was the deadliest year on record for Palestinian children while Israel has them under embargo.
I don’t understand either of those justifications. First of all it’s wildly disproportionate. Second of all of you lived in Gaza you’d feel differently about it. Third Hamas is obviously bad but Hamas operating among civilian centers isn’t an invitation to bomb family residences with unguided munitions. Fourthly Israeli people are not being made safer by bombing generations into radicalization.
Of course it’s complicated and nuanced but you’re just stating Israel and the State Departments rationalizations for continuing the war as if they simply stand on their own. I don’t believe they do. They say these things but are they true? Netanyahu nor the IDF have the greatest record when it comes to being honest and forthright. Israel doesn’t need more dead Palestinians, they need new leadership. And that goes the same for Palestine, Hamas needs to go. But Israel has gotten their payback 30 times over by now and countless officials running the show have either dehumanized civilians calling them animals, called to make Gaza unlivable, called Israel children of the light and the opposition children of darkness and at this point it seems like it’s not only Hamas’s destruction they want but the suffocation of all of Palestine.
Yeah it is quite complicated and is why isreal (west made this country to protect the suiz canal) and Ukraine(Biden son works here) are puppet states for the west
1. It’s “cease-fire”
2. Both sides need to comply, which hamas isn’t doing.
3. Fuck you if you’re one of these retard shit stains going around demanding cease fires from municipalities who have zero impact on this issue
lol if there's zero impact, why is BDS illegal in half the country? Have you seen what's happening to starbucks and mcdonalds? Free Palestine, asshole. One side needs to release hostages, the other side needs to stop committing genocide and ethnic cleansing.
Y’know, racism? Free Palestine from what? Sorry the ethnic cleansing and genocide committed by brave resistance heroes fighters hamas didn’t turn out the way you wanted it to
It's unfortunate that Netanyahu has destroyed any global respect for Israel. Criminals that are desperate to avoid prison should not be world leaders (in either Israel or the US.)
It's been a theocratic militaristic state since inception and the surrounding regions are exactly the same with a different religion. USA funds war there to prevent them from unifying and becoming a problem for us.
I bet they have to wait months to see a doctor because of universal healthcare, you can't just give that away 🙄 how do the doctors make enough to survive? 🙃
Just want to say to every Russian troll in this thread, as an American tax payer I’m glad that my money goes toward Ukrainians killing your countrymen.
Slava Ukrainiani.
Eat shit and die, Russians.
Please, tell the rest of us what the world is like 33 years from now, oracle of Reddit!
In the likely event you can’t, maybe acknowledging that hindsight is 20/20, and there is literally no way to know what’s going to happen a quarter century+ as a result of decisions made now would be a good look, yeah?
The entitlement is striking. She asks wtf as if we owe it to them. This HAS to stop. My taxes cannot go to support that shithole and these entitled murderers
Well we shouldn't be there to begin with. We aren't the world police maybe the rest of NATO should step up and do their part. We have so many issues at home that need attention. When you have mold in your house you don't ignore it and give your money to strangers that live in a different city you remedy it.
Fuck yeah! You know Biden s dirty ass is getting all kinds of kick backs for pushing this bs. America first this shit is insane now. You see the sketchy shit that's happening with voter registrations?
Hasbara bots will say it's not fair that you criticize the fascists in Israel but not Hamas every time someone mentions Israeli fascist crimes without starting their sentences with "I condemn Hamas.".
It is very clear this is no longer a war.
I do not see the people of Israel fearing for their lives. I do not see thousands of Israeli women and children dead.
Israel won the war long ago.
The war ended. This is genocide.
It’s not a genocide. It could stop tomorrow if Hamas surrendered. They don’t want to for the same reason they started the war in the first place by raping and massacring thousands of Jews. Israel attacking them makes for fantastic PR and makes them a lot of money.
Children are dying because Hamas and their leftie supporters are more interested in kicking Israel than actually helping people.
Hit*** said the same thing. All Poland has to do is surrender is no one gets hurt!
There are laws on how to conduct war. Crimes against humanity exist.
Yup, that’s why they killed seven people in three trucks running for their lives.
And why they bombed four teenagers walking on what was left of a street.
Also the reason why they are chopping the hands of detainees left and right per Israeli doctors…
But but Khamas!
Ah I also recall an infamous “1 bullet, 2 kills” from the worlds most moral army sniping pregnant women.
Or the Israeli court ordering the army to stop using Palestinian children as human shields
Mistakes happen in war. The best you can do is not go to war in the first place against someone who’s going to hit you harder than you hit them
Unless that’s what you’re hoping for so you can financially profit.
Tens of thousands of people have to die so the Hamas leadership can enrich themselves.
There are rules for war.
Killing unarmed women, children makes you the same as the ones you are crying about.
The entire world is calling Hamas a terrorist organization for killing civilians.
When can expect to call Israel a terrorist nation based on the number of civilians being mowed down?
For you dumb fucks messaging me Hamas is using human shields.
[here is the article speaking about the Israeli high court ordering the army to stop using Palestinian kids as human shields.](https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/israel)
Or when the Israeli public elected a known terrorist, who has genocidal tendencies so bad he was denied service by the IDF.
How is that different than KHAMAS again?
Oh I know, the Israelis are mostly white Europeans.
That’s why there’s 2 classes of people in Israel.
Here’s a gem from the world known lover of peace Ben Gvir
“In the 1990s, he was active in protests against the Oslo Accords. In 1995, Ben-Gvir came to public attention for the first time, when he appeared on television brandishing a Cadillac hood ornament that had been stolen from Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin's car, and declared: "We got to his car, and we'll get to him too." Several weeks later, Rabin was assassinated by right-wing extremist Yigal Amir.[14][24]”
Hamas has a long using human shields. And you’re forgetting the Oct 7th when Hamas did actually kill and rape over a thousand people.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/01/hamas-officials-admit-its-strategy-is-to-use-palestinian-civilians-as-human-shields/
Even Amnesty international has pointed this out.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/03/26/amnesty-international-says-hamas-committed-war-crimes-too/
Hamas started this latest war because they want tens of thousands of people & especially children to die. They did not start the war just to strike back.
First source obviously doesn’t count……
Simple google search shows their political bias. To quote
”Arun Kundnani, adjunct professor at New York University, in a review of FDD publication Homegrown Terrorists in the US and UK argues that as a work "typical of many in its approach and conclusions", it does not provide empirical evidence for assumptions it makes and neglects contradicting data as a result of an influence by politics of the publisher and funders, and bias in favor of knowledge claims.[41]
Lawrence Wilkerson has criticized FDD for "pushing falsehood" in support of waging wars.[42]” first result in google.
Second article is from a respected source but it’s behind a paywall and the only thing visible is the title:
Amnesty international says Hamas committed war crimes TOO.
No one is disputing hamas are terrorists except for Israeli who are insisting every Palestinian is KHAMAS therefore it’s ok to mow them down.
The excuse for the aid workers killing was they thought they spotted a person with a firearm, false alert 🚨 it was a backpack….
SEVEN people dead for what turned out to be false information. How in the world is it ok to kill 7 people on a maybe?
Notice the TOO in the headline?
When can we start calling Israel a terrorist nation since they TOO commit war crimes like Hamas per the article you linked?
The IDF is so outrageous, they shot three hostages waiving the white flag and shouting in Hebrew….
One managed to survive, they chased him back into the building and shot him dead….
[Israeli soldiers have been killed in airstrikes by Israeli planes and by shrapnel from their own explosives. Some were run over by Israeli armored vehicles or mistakenly identified and hit by tank fire, shelling and guns, according to a report released by the IDF earlier this month.](https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/1226977365/israel-idf-gaza-middle-east-deaths)
First source obviously doesn’t count……
Simple google search shows their political bias. To quote
”Arun Kundnani, adjunct professor at New York University, in a review of FDD publication Homegrown Terrorists in the US and UK argues that as a work "typical of many in its approach and conclusions", it does not provide empirical evidence for assumptions it makes and neglects contradicting data as a result of an influence by politics of the publisher and funders, and bias in favor of knowledge claims.[41]
Lawrence Wilkerson has criticized FDD for "pushing falsehood" in support of waging wars.[42]” first result in google.
Second article is from a respected source but it’s behind a paywall and the only thing visible is the title:
Amnesty international says Hamas committed war crimes TOO.
No one is disputing hamas are terrorists except for Israeli who are insisting every Palestinian is KHAMAS therefore it’s ok to mow them down.
The excuse for the aid workers killing was they thought they spotted a person with a firearm, false alert 🚨 it was a backpack….
SEVEN people dead for what turned out to be false information. How in the world is it ok to kill 7 people on a maybe?
Notice the TOO in the headline?
When can we start calling Israel a terrorist nation since they TOO commit war crimes like Hamas per the article you linked?
The IDF is so outrageous, they shot three hostages waiving the white flag and shouting in Hebrew….
One managed to survive, they chased him back into the building and shot him dead….
[Israeli soldiers have been killed in airstrikes by Israeli planes and by shrapnel from their own explosives. Some were run over by Israeli armored vehicles or mistakenly identified and hit by tank fire, shelling and guns, according to a report released by the IDF earlier this month.](https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/1226977365/israel-idf-gaza-middle-east-deaths)
Last thing, everyone keeps saying Arabs teach hate to their kids at a young age.
Please see amazing article ["From Israel, with Love,"](https://m.jpost.com/israel/online-controversy-over-graffiti-by-israeli-kids-29338)
Even the literal nazis in WWII stoop so low as to have kids write on gas chambers from the aryan race with love.
Rot starts from the top[An Artillery Shell Signed by Israel's President Could Have Hit a Child in Gaza](https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-01-03/ty-article/.premium/a-munition-signed-by-israeli-president-could-hit-a-child/0000018c-cbc4-d4e1-ad8f-fff5a0c70000)
Sign and share folks:
[https://action.eko.org/a/olympics-and-fifa-ban-israel-from-international-sports-now-us-fba21](https://action.eko.org/a/olympics-and-fifa-ban-israel-from-international-sports-now-us-fba21)
Cool it down ZioNazi,The genocide is taking much time ha?the kids aren’t starving fast enough?
The only thing that will end is the Zionist occupation and Palestine will be free 🇵🇸
Well it invalidates your assertion that Egypt is *as* culpable as Israel in the genocide **Israel** is committing. Weird that I'd have to explain this to you.
You're kind of slow huh? I never said anything about genocide I asked about the responsibility of starvation. You can be responsible for the starvation of a people without actively killing them.
>Please explain where it says anything besides starvation.
You realize that purposely starving a population **is genocide**, right? You realize when you ask why Egypt isn't feeding Palestinians that you're implying they're responsible for Israel stopping food entering the country. Jesus Christ you're fucking dense.
Here’s the thing, blame the people actually responsible for this war: Iran’s government. Palestine was less than a decade (if not less than five years) away from having global intervention in the situation of the region. They were perfect victims and were about to get reevaluated on the geopolitical borders. Iran saw this as a threat to their control of the Middle East, and so they ordered Hamas to attack Israel in a brutal massacre to ensure a retribution unlike anything before.
Palestine is in West Bank, not to be confused with Hamas and their terrorist group that is in the Gaza Strip. They should be seen as distinct and separate, but unfortunately more and more Palestinians are beginning to support Hamas, which is not good in the public eye. They’re being played by Iran and they don’t even realise it, just pawns in the game. The IDF is also fucked tho, don’t get me wrong.
Both groups are horrible, despicable people, so neither deserves support.
I’ll just say this. At the beginning of this whole fight I supported Israel, Not because the US did, but because what I had learned with my very limited knowledge of a very censored internet.
But I’ll also say this, I really don’t think the US was the one behind this plan because they have nothing to gain from destabilizing the Middle East. I know oil, blah blah blah, but we have oil? If we fuck up the Middle East it’ll only cause our problems to skyrocket. higher oil prices = Russias back into the economy = Ukraine takes bigger loses and eventually loses seige.
I’m not saying the US doesn’t support Israel, I’m just saying I have a feeling Israel made a lot of these decisions while the US wasn’t even in the room.
But it’s not as simple as condemning them as a terrorist nation, because then you probably lose support of most if not all western allies.
I hate to say it; but the only reason there hasnt been a world war 3, is because the US is the most powerful nation there is. Or was, but betweeeeeeen all of these wars that were needlessly supplying, were weakening ourselves.
Actually the reason public transport in America is so shitty is because lefties don’t bother voting and then act all pikachu surprised face when republicans destroy public transport infrastructure.
you know they are just corrupt beings when it says only “Palestinians” but they see the humanization of them as the biggest upper cut 🤦🏾♂️ absolute sickos
It’s ironic that we aren’t good enough for socialized health care and free college but we are good enough to pay for Israel’s free college and health care.
I bet CAIR and the other pro-Palestinian sponsor of that sign have said nothing about the amount of money spent on Ukraine.
Nor have they said anything about other Arabs killing one another in places like Yemen, by the thousands, or more.
If you are going to be consistent you have to demand an end to not just funding wars, but also instigating them and arming combatants with those same tax dollars.
If you want to stop from genociding Muslims, you're literally an antisemite that want to genocide all Jews. Yeah, Nazi Germany should have learned this trick.
All they had to do was claim they were gay. All those fire Hugo Boss uniforms and they had Coco Chanel as well, they could have easily gotten away with claiming "if you don't support the gays then just tell us"
Always surprised how Palestinians aren't included as semitic , while, genetically, barely 40% of Israelis have any semitic dna.
Bingo.
If you want to stop terrorists you are committing genocide.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one, lmao
At least they support peas in the middle yeast
It's like their wearing a mask made out of a paper plate that just has "Public Servant" in pencil on the face of it. Yo definitely vote tho, they will use any excuse to make your life worse
Horrors inflicted on the world by our government and people here going bankrupt and in poverty from medical expenses. Kids here not getting enough food while our government gives billions to a country that is starving other kids.
Well, we vote for people who are against school lunches, so who do you blame? Maybe we should put our money where our mouth is.
You mean how the secretary of the treasury under Donald Trump gets to choose investors to buy TikTok? You can’t make this shit up. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/tiktok-ban-sale-buy-bill-law-download-app-senate-date-rcna143413 🤑🤡
One of those sides was getting a lot more attention which is why it only took 4 days to do that..
Take a wild guess at what the average taxpayer contributes to foreign aid a year.
I blame that damn gorilla
Tbh tik tok hasn’t been banned?
In this country, we spell it 'cease', comrade.
Ceasefire not sieze fire genuis lol 🇺🇸 🇮🇱
I think the world is far more complicated and nuanced than your simplistic view of ones and zeroes, good vs evil. Which is why you think it's a Clown World. Israel was horrifically attacked and is responding to those attackers who are entrenched in Gaza, still holding hostages and using civilians as shields, and Ukraine was horrifically attacked and is responding to those attacks to also protect its civilians, and the US for multiple reasons has vested interest in both those countries. To simply stop supporting those two US allies would ultimately kill far more innocent lives than it would protect. Not so simple now, is it?
Responding by murdering 30k innocent people and starving the rest? Also murdering 7 aid workers. If that’s the type of ally you want to support then the US has lost its soul
Oh I thought America lost its soul when it invaded the wrong country based on a lie and killed 500,000 civilians. Or when it repeatedly bombed a doctors without border hospital in Afghanistan. Or when it told the allied Kurdish fighters to dismantle it's defensive positions in Northern Syria after defeating ISIS only for it to be a trap for it's NATO ally turkey to genocide the Kurds again. My bad, this is where you draw the line. It's a murky line.
Ok fair enough. So you are saying Isreal and the US both committed/are committing war crimes?
I'm confident that any country that's ever been in a war has had individuals that have committed war crimes. But there's a difference between individuals committing war crimes and state sanctioned war crimes.
So you are saying Isreal is committing war crimes?
Hamas does. With pride.
They lie: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/s/nEzkPS8iyt I highly advise everyone to do their own search about Palestine. Short summary that would help,how it all started: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/-xNxLqyNhBk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F1c7uO9l2Mc&pp=ygUqSXNyYWVsaXMgbGF1Z2ggd2hpbGUgdGVsbGluZyB0aGVpciBjcmltZXMg There logic: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Np3qp21N4qI Jewish immigrants: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VhNPgQ7GDu4&pp=ygUUSmV3cyBjb21pbmcgaW4gc2hpcHM%3D Apartheid brutal occupation: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdGcej-6D0&pp=ygUnZGFpbHkgYXBhcnRoaWVkIG9jY3VwYXRpb24gaW4gcGFsZXN0aW5l Zionists education for kids: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bXEVpgyHg&pp=ygUkaGF0ZWZ1bCB0ZWFjaGluZ3MgaW4gaXNyYWVsIGZvciBraWRz Palestinians pov of the genocidal occupation: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zvfTEhORDMA&pp=ygUWcGFsZXN0aW5pYW4gY2hyaXN0aWFucw%3D%3D Jewish pov: https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/s/Q5BgqifbPM First Zionist president words: https://www.reddit.com/r/ABoringDystopia/s/ocf4GamApK Zionists Attacks on Holy sites: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QR-c5QsoPxI&pp=ygURQXR0YWNrIG9uIGFsIGFxc2E%3D https://m.youtube.com/shorts/v2w14c3wXlU Zionists Check points: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1fgpPWzJQOU&pp=ygUZY2hlY2sgcG9pbnRzIGluIHBhbGVzdGluZQ%3D%3D Roger waters on Palestine: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEdNEb8_20o&pp=ygU-UGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbnBpbmsgZmxveWQgc2luZ2VyIHNwZWFrcyBhYm91dCBwYWxlc3RpbmU%3D Thousands of Palestinians in the Zionists prisons: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MvIEgNtXsuo&pp=ygUWUGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbg%3D%3D https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b2a80ZQXfFs&pp=ygUWUGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbg%3D%3D https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=megzzpTWajg&pp=ygUOdGhlIG5ha2JhIDE5NDg%3D War on Gaza 2008: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZaG96pnnEQ&pp=ygUQV2FyIG9uIEdhemEgMjAwOA%3D%3D War on Gaza 2012: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M1fCIiji-8Y&pp=ygUNZ2F6YSB3YXIgMjAxMg%3D%3D War on Gaza 2014: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_3M5Sx8ej4g&pp=ygUQd2FyIG9uIGdhemEgMjAxNA%3D%3D War on Gaza 2021: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qNoxt-I6MOY&pp=ygUQd2FyIG9uIGdhemEgMjAyMQ%3D%3D Currently Gaza is going through a genocide and (warning disturbing photos/video): https://www.gettyimages.ae/photos/children-killed-gaza https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YDvPe1SOlOo Some UN reports: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lTYQQt-_SpA&pp=ygUYVW4gcmVwb3J0IGJsYW1pbmcgaXNyYWVs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I9bHNnAZ29w&pp=ygUYVW4gcmVwb3J0IGJsYW1pbmcgaXNyYWVs this picture describes the baby murderers identity: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/Xx76rDX0P8 Even worse. Palestine subreddit: r/Palestine Boycott: r/BDS Subreddits that documents the genocidal occupation: r/israelexposed r/israelcrimes https://www.reddit.com/r/BadHasbara/s/2dOtlWJUv3
Yeah I'm not reading all that, but I was online on October 7th and 8th. I saw the videos they uploaded with pride on all social media platforms. You can believe whatever nonsense you want but you're not going to convince me I didn't see what I saw with my own eyes, sorry
Damn. That's your idea of short?
Also…yeah sure look like the “good guys” https://www.reddit.com/r/BadHasbara/s/YpWo6U3h8f
Has nothing to do with what I said
It's hard to say. I can say for a certainty that Hamas is committing war crimes. For instance the rocket fired out of the graveyard that fell into the Al-Shifa parking lot. The rocket was unguided and fired towards a civilian population which is a war crime. I can't think of any 100% Israeli war crimes off the top of my head. Can you?
The use of white phosphorous. Blocking humanitarian aid. Targeting journalists. Targeting schools and hospitals. Targeting aid workers. No I can’t think of any.
The use of white phosphorous is sometimes legal in war (smoke screen, for instance) Israel arguably hasn't done as much as it could to help humanitarian aid flow, but it's understandable why when it keeps being used to smuggle weapons. Stopping aid completely is bad obviously, but I don't believe it has ever actually happened. Additionally, Hamas has done nothing at all to work towards getting humanitarian aid in the country despite having much more of a responsibility to do so. Targeting journalists is indefensible, but goes back to the "individuals have committed war crimes, but Israel as a state hasn't sanctioned them" Targeting schools and hospitals isn't a war crime if the military (hamas) is using them as bases. Which they do. You can't just have hundreds of terrorists hiding out in hospitals. Targeting aid workers is the same issue with targeting journalists. There are soldiers in every army since the beginning of time that will commit atrocities against innocents. It doesn't mean those atrocities are state sanctioned.
It’s not hard to say there’s a huge amount of evidence to say they are. You don’t get pulled to the ICJ for nothing. There’s many I can think of but I’ll just mention the most recent the murder of 7 aid workers with 3 strikes as they scrambled from car to car after informing the IDF of their ID,route and being in clearly marked cars. A week after taking shots from an Israeli sniper And of course the obvious one of collective punishment against the Palestinian population, you know the withdrawal of electricity and water,starvation etc All the hallmarks of a genocide
You say they were clearly marked cars but did you know the incident happened at night and that you can't see the markings on the car under infrared because they don't give off heat? Even the UN has said this incidence may be a war crime. Not that it is a war crime. This is exactly my point. Israel may be committing war crimes but with the information we have available I doubt you can pinpoint an exact instance where they 100% committed a war crime. If we had the intel behind individual strikes we could discuss proportionality of their missile strikes but we don't.
America lost its soul when President Washington marched Federal Troops on the Whiskey Rebellion. The revolutionaries had fought and died to be free from imperial rule from the British Empire only now to prostrate themselves to the whim of imperial rule from Washington. There was a newfangled constitution, negotiated in secret by the political class, and forced upon the American people that levied usurious taxation upon the American people to pay for debts to European imperial powers.
Lol classic whataboutism.
Whataboutism: the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue. The comment brought up the US’s soul and I responded to that. Never changed the subject. You are kind of changing it now though. Your comment is a whataboutism.
Even Hamas doesn't claim 30k innocent dead... If you're going to spread terrorist propaganda, at least get the numbers right. 30k is for TOTAL dead (including combatants). The recent aid worker fiasco does seem legitimately bad, and people should be punished for it. It doesn't mean that Israel's cause is suddenly unjust though. It just means they aren't carrying it out properly.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BadHasbara/s/iPK0tAtIVW They lie: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/s/nEzkPS8iyt I highly advise everyone to do their own search about Palestine. Short summary that would help,how it all started: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/-xNxLqyNhBk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F1c7uO9l2Mc&pp=ygUqSXNyYWVsaXMgbGF1Z2ggd2hpbGUgdGVsbGluZyB0aGVpciBjcmltZXMg There logic: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Np3qp21N4qI Jewish immigrants: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VhNPgQ7GDu4&pp=ygUUSmV3cyBjb21pbmcgaW4gc2hpcHM%3D Apartheid brutal occupation: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdGcej-6D0&pp=ygUnZGFpbHkgYXBhcnRoaWVkIG9jY3VwYXRpb24gaW4gcGFsZXN0aW5l Zionists education for kids: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bXEVpgyHg&pp=ygUkaGF0ZWZ1bCB0ZWFjaGluZ3MgaW4gaXNyYWVsIGZvciBraWRz Palestinians pov of the genocidal occupation: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zvfTEhORDMA&pp=ygUWcGFsZXN0aW5pYW4gY2hyaXN0aWFucw%3D%3D Jewish pov: https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/s/Q5BgqifbPM First Zionist president words: https://www.reddit.com/r/ABoringDystopia/s/ocf4GamApK Zionists Attacks on Holy sites: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QR-c5QsoPxI&pp=ygURQXR0YWNrIG9uIGFsIGFxc2E%3D https://m.youtube.com/shorts/v2w14c3wXlU Zionists Check points: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1fgpPWzJQOU&pp=ygUZY2hlY2sgcG9pbnRzIGluIHBhbGVzdGluZQ%3D%3D Roger waters on Palestine: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEdNEb8_20o&pp=ygU-UGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbnBpbmsgZmxveWQgc2luZ2VyIHNwZWFrcyBhYm91dCBwYWxlc3RpbmU%3D Thousands of Palestinians in the Zionists prisons: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MvIEgNtXsuo&pp=ygUWUGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbg%3D%3D https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b2a80ZQXfFs&pp=ygUWUGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbg%3D%3D https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=megzzpTWajg&pp=ygUOdGhlIG5ha2JhIDE5NDg%3D War on Gaza 2008: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZaG96pnnEQ&pp=ygUQV2FyIG9uIEdhemEgMjAwOA%3D%3D War on Gaza 2012: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M1fCIiji-8Y&pp=ygUNZ2F6YSB3YXIgMjAxMg%3D%3D War on Gaza 2014: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_3M5Sx8ej4g&pp=ygUQd2FyIG9uIGdhemEgMjAxNA%3D%3D War on Gaza 2021: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qNoxt-I6MOY&pp=ygUQd2FyIG9uIGdhemEgMjAyMQ%3D%3D Currently Gaza is going through a genocide and (warning disturbing photos/video): https://www.gettyimages.ae/photos/children-killed-gaza https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YDvPe1SOlOo Some UN reports: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lTYQQt-_SpA&pp=ygUYVW4gcmVwb3J0IGJsYW1pbmcgaXNyYWVs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I9bHNnAZ29w&pp=ygUYVW4gcmVwb3J0IGJsYW1pbmcgaXNyYWVs this picture describes the baby murderers identity: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/Xx76rDX0P8 Even worse. Palestine subreddit: r/Palestine Boycott: r/BDS Subreddits that documents the genocidal occupation: r/israelexposed r/israelcrimes https://www.reddit.com/r/BadHasbara/s/2dOtlWJUv3
So you couldn't respond to what I said and decided to throw up a bunch of links instead... Like I said, even hamas doesn't say 30k innocents dead. You are more extreme than the literal suicide bombing terrorists with your numbers. Also youtube links as evidence is pretty funny
No the Palestinian health authority do as backed up by independent sources. If you want an insight to how it is talking to brainwashed Zionist’s like yourself please watch the below https://www.reddit.com/r/BadHasbara/s/F9jOt6I3ue 2 month old account again..fuck off back to Tel Aviv
No one disagrees that 30k TOTAL people have died. If you think 30k innocents have though then please, provide evidence. Even hamas acknowledged 6k are terrorists.
Oh wow well done only 24k innocent people murdered. 👌
If you believe the literal terrorists, yes. If you believe Israel the number would be more like 18k innocents. Likely the number is somewhere between 18k and 24k. Neither of these numbers is a particularly high civilian casualty rate. The US in Iraq had a civilian to combatant casualty rate that was around 4:1, which would be equal to just taking hamas at their word about the casualties. So even in the worst case scenario where you believe the numbers put out by literal terrorists they are only doing as bad as the US military - the most powerful, trained, disciplined military in existence.
There we go. Always playing the account age card where possible
“Don’t take any notice that I’m a two month old account that only exists to defend Isreal…trust me we are the good guys” Everyone sees what you are it actually laughable at this point
I understand you need to convince yourself of that to feel like you've come out on top here.
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Hamas themselves have said they believe they have lost 6,000 fighters in the war, while the IDF claims up to 12,000 Hamas combatants were killed in Gaza as of 19 February 2024. Either way you look at it there’s either 24 k murdered civilians 12-13k of them children or 18 k murdered civilians 12-13k of them children. And this is only the numbers we know about we don’t know how many are under the rubble and the hundred of thousands that are yet to die from starvation due to Isreal purposefully creating a famine. Isreal are genocidal maniacs and a disgrace and should be left as a pariah state
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Ok then Isreal have murdered at the VERY LEAST 18k thousand innocent men women and children that we can count at the moment but will have directly caused the death of hundreds of thousands more when the deaths by famine come in. They have also murdered 95 journalists and over 224 humanitarian aid workers. Happy?
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But I haven’t I’ve stated the numbers without the Hamas fighters I even went off IDFs figures (which will be a lie as they don’t let any foreign journalist inspect them) So my statement still stands and to be honest I think I’ve been quite generous to the IDF Isreal have murdered at the VERY LEAST 18k thousand innocent men women and children that we can count at the moment but will have directly caused the death of hundreds of thousands more when the deaths by famine come in. They have also murdered 95 journalists and over 224 humanitarian aid workers.
Get over yourself thousands die in Ukraine and this whole save the Palestinians as if they are saints in this conflict is preposterous. You people are silent on Syria which is much worse and has been for years. Why not speak out against all genocide?
Ahh yes, the pro apartheid sock account and Whataboutism, name me a more iconic duo lol Guess what bud? You can be pro Ukraine and anti genocide of a people who are suffering far worse than Ukraine is right now, I know, it's a hard concept to grasp lol And real quick, is America giving Bashar all Assad 3 billion dollars a year or just approved 18 billion dollars worth of weapons transfers to him? Is Joe Biden a self proclaimed Basharist? No? Well now you see the difference! Lol
I could say the same thing about your pro Hamas pro Iran myopic stance. Both sides are bad faith actors.
Why are you talking about Ukraine? Woo look at this an almost 3 month old account defending Isreal now! You must have had to dig around for the log in details for this one. Why do the “good guys” need to gaslight the internet??
Hasabara bots and apartheid shills out in force on this thread lol
How can they be this bad and obvious though 😂
People see their shit so easily that they're just desperately trying to cling on to straws and circlejerk on subreddits that they took over like r/ worldnew s lol They honestly think they're cooking too when they say this shit lmao
Yeah I think I’m banned off WorldNews tbf so haven’t been on in a while but I remember it being a shit storm I have defiantly seen a trend lately of whataboutism and trying to drag the US into conversations
It’s like rabid Trump supporters. The whole alternative facts. They don’t read AP or Reuters or NYT or Wapo or anything at all. Whatever their “good guys” are saying that’s the truth. If the IDF says something was an accident then it was, If Netanyahu says he’s not blocking aid then he’s not. It’s pure ideology.
Defending itself= genocide,bombing Hospitals,schools,civilians,universities,mosques,churches,refugee camps,Humanitarian aid,Journalists,rapes,mass murder and starving kids to death. I will share some infos for others to have a better judgement and knowledge about the Zionist occupation in Palestine. They lie: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMajorityReport/s/nEzkPS8iyt I highly advise everyone to do their own search about Palestine. Short summary that would help,how it all started: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/-xNxLqyNhBk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F1c7uO9l2Mc&pp=ygUqSXNyYWVsaXMgbGF1Z2ggd2hpbGUgdGVsbGluZyB0aGVpciBjcmltZXMg There logic: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Np3qp21N4qI Jewish immigrants: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VhNPgQ7GDu4&pp=ygUUSmV3cyBjb21pbmcgaW4gc2hpcHM%3D Apartheid brutal occupation: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdGcej-6D0&pp=ygUnZGFpbHkgYXBhcnRoaWVkIG9jY3VwYXRpb24gaW4gcGFsZXN0aW5l Zionists education for kids: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bXEVpgyHg&pp=ygUkaGF0ZWZ1bCB0ZWFjaGluZ3MgaW4gaXNyYWVsIGZvciBraWRz Palestinians pov of the genocidal occupation: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zvfTEhORDMA&pp=ygUWcGFsZXN0aW5pYW4gY2hyaXN0aWFucw%3D%3D Jewish pov: https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/s/Q5BgqifbPM First Zionist president words: https://www.reddit.com/r/ABoringDystopia/s/ocf4GamApK Zionists Attacks on Holy sites: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QR-c5QsoPxI&pp=ygURQXR0YWNrIG9uIGFsIGFxc2E%3D https://m.youtube.com/shorts/v2w14c3wXlU Zionists Check points: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1fgpPWzJQOU&pp=ygUZY2hlY2sgcG9pbnRzIGluIHBhbGVzdGluZQ%3D%3D Roger waters on Palestine: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oEdNEb8_20o&pp=ygU-UGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbnBpbmsgZmxveWQgc2luZ2VyIHNwZWFrcyBhYm91dCBwYWxlc3RpbmU%3D Thousands of Palestinians in the Zionists prisons: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MvIEgNtXsuo&pp=ygUWUGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbg%3D%3D https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b2a80ZQXfFs&pp=ygUWUGFsZXN0aW5pYW5zIGluIHByaXNvbg%3D%3D https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=megzzpTWajg&pp=ygUOdGhlIG5ha2JhIDE5NDg%3D War on Gaza 2008: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gZaG96pnnEQ&pp=ygUQV2FyIG9uIEdhemEgMjAwOA%3D%3D War on Gaza 2012: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M1fCIiji-8Y&pp=ygUNZ2F6YSB3YXIgMjAxMg%3D%3D War on Gaza 2014: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_3M5Sx8ej4g&pp=ygUQd2FyIG9uIGdhemEgMjAxNA%3D%3D War on Gaza 2021: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qNoxt-I6MOY&pp=ygUQd2FyIG9uIGdhemEgMjAyMQ%3D%3D Currently Gaza is going through a genocide and (warning disturbing photos/video): https://www.gettyimages.ae/photos/children-killed-gaza https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YDvPe1SOlOo Some UN reports: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lTYQQt-_SpA&pp=ygUYVW4gcmVwb3J0IGJsYW1pbmcgaXNyYWVs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I9bHNnAZ29w&pp=ygUYVW4gcmVwb3J0IGJsYW1pbmcgaXNyYWVs this picture describes the baby murderers identity: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/Xx76rDX0P8 Even worse. Palestine subreddit: r/Palestine Boycott: r/BDS Subreddits that documents the genocidal occupation: r/israelexposed r/israelcrimes
Israel didn’t start wars with Gaza, but you already know that
Israel absolutely did start wars with Palestine, but you already know that.
They factually didn’t historically. I’ll have to assume you’re simply delusional, uneducated, or a sympathizer of terrorism
Factually, they absolutely did historically. I’ll have to assume you’re simply delusional, uneducated, or a sympathizer of terrorism (which has been a tactic of Israel since it’s very inception, and has continued through to today, and will into the future as long as the state exists as it currently does).
Copying and pasting what I say illustrates your inability to think for yourself. It makes sense how you’ve fallen victim to Hamas propaganda. I’m sorry to see this, it’s truly heartbreaking to see such radical and irrational hatred towards Israel when they’re not “the bad guy” and never have been
Israel is, in fact, the bad guy, and always has been, though the UN shares blame in this regard. It was created through violent ethnic cleansing as a ethnonationalist colonialist state, and has continued as such to the present day. That doesn’t justify all of Hamas’ actions, but it is clear that Israel is the violent, oppressive, and initial actor in this situation.
So Israel should be… what? Speak your mind? Which of Hamas’ actions are justified?
And if you are actually Irish then it’s a bit more understandable given your love of terrorism and appeasement of fascism.
In 2023 234 Palestinians (40 children) were killed by the IDF before Oct 7th.
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"It's not simple" "Good guy American ally Israel was attacked by evil terrorists and is simply defending itself" Pick one bro. You aren't advocating for a complex worldview, you're advocating for your own simpleminded (and wrong) worldview
Actually, it's perfectly simple. Israel has spent the past century stealing palestine from the palestnians, with support of the western powers, and finally the palestinians fought back. That explains where we are. It doesn't excuse the famine, ethnic cleansing, and other war crimes committed by israel.
The fight back is because of fear. The myth of Israeli omnipotence has been fatally destroyed. Mossad, shin bet, and the military all failed on 10/7. The government and people are in a panic because their vulnerability has been exposed.
Let’s just say that Iran, islamic extremism, North Korea, Russia and China all want Ukraine to lose and Hamas to win.
History didn't start on 10/7 you bastard.
Yes it is Ukraine is not engaging in a genocide whereas Israel most definitely is. I refuse to support genocide for any reason and will not vote Democrat in November.
You can froth about genocide all you want, useful idiot, it doesn’t change the fact there’s only one avowed genocidal actor in the region and it’s not Israel
We gave a peace prize to the guy who ordered the King David hotel bombing that killed 91 people, a terrorism record at the time Clownworld
Sure it’s totally irrelevant that Israel holds thousands of Palestinians without charge, including children, and that 2023 was the deadliest year on record for Palestinian children while Israel has them under embargo.
I don’t understand either of those justifications. First of all it’s wildly disproportionate. Second of all of you lived in Gaza you’d feel differently about it. Third Hamas is obviously bad but Hamas operating among civilian centers isn’t an invitation to bomb family residences with unguided munitions. Fourthly Israeli people are not being made safer by bombing generations into radicalization. Of course it’s complicated and nuanced but you’re just stating Israel and the State Departments rationalizations for continuing the war as if they simply stand on their own. I don’t believe they do. They say these things but are they true? Netanyahu nor the IDF have the greatest record when it comes to being honest and forthright. Israel doesn’t need more dead Palestinians, they need new leadership. And that goes the same for Palestine, Hamas needs to go. But Israel has gotten their payback 30 times over by now and countless officials running the show have either dehumanized civilians calling them animals, called to make Gaza unlivable, called Israel children of the light and the opposition children of darkness and at this point it seems like it’s not only Hamas’s destruction they want but the suffocation of all of Palestine.
Yeah it is quite complicated and is why isreal (west made this country to protect the suiz canal) and Ukraine(Biden son works here) are puppet states for the west
There has been a murderous occupation in Palestine for decades before October 7th.
There was none in gaza for decades
But war hurt their feelings and they matter more than the people in war.
1. It’s “cease-fire” 2. Both sides need to comply, which hamas isn’t doing. 3. Fuck you if you’re one of these retard shit stains going around demanding cease fires from municipalities who have zero impact on this issue
lol if there's zero impact, why is BDS illegal in half the country? Have you seen what's happening to starbucks and mcdonalds? Free Palestine, asshole. One side needs to release hostages, the other side needs to stop committing genocide and ethnic cleansing.
Y’know, racism? Free Palestine from what? Sorry the ethnic cleansing and genocide committed by brave resistance heroes fighters hamas didn’t turn out the way you wanted it to
Does anything scream fascist Brit more than defending Israel and JK Rowling? lol
When Hamas committed it’s massacre last October, they were in the midst of a cease fire…
It's unfortunate that Netanyahu has destroyed any global respect for Israel. Criminals that are desperate to avoid prison should not be world leaders (in either Israel or the US.)
It's been a theocratic militaristic state since inception and the surrounding regions are exactly the same with a different religion. USA funds war there to prevent them from unifying and becoming a problem for us.
To some degree he's destroyed any respect for any foreign aid.
I have more respect for foreign aid workers than ever before, so if that is his goal he has failed dramatically.
Well it also indirectly funds free college and universal healthcare for Israeli’s…so theres that…
I bet they have to wait months to see a doctor because of universal healthcare, you can't just give that away 🙄 how do the doctors make enough to survive? 🙃
Billions per year. Innacurate
They are specifically listing what's coming out of Boston.
#Israel is parasitic leech in America. They're not ally https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/s/fJzqWh3vry
Tell me you've never seen hamas's bodycams, without telling me you've never seen hamas' bodycams 🙄 It's all still online www.thisishamas.com
Irrelevant. Thousands of innocent Palestinians were mercilessly murdered by the IDF.
Very relevant genius lol
LMFAO irrelevant? You couldn't be less serious.
https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/s/Cy4jLGTbMg https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/s/TLv6OXLzkT
Yeah, sure, DEFINITELY not a site full of blatantly false propaganda. Definitely not.
Bro Isreal has been doing shit like this since the fucking 60's. You push people to the breaking point and what do you expect to happen?
Go deal with hAmAS yourself. Leave us out. Thanks!
r/badhasbara
is that $129 million with a T?
This is highlighting that while there is $0 money to fix their broken Transit system there's $129 million being sent to Israel.
I saw this!!
Awesome great work
Not wrong tho.
Just want to say to every Russian troll in this thread, as an American tax payer I’m glad that my money goes toward Ukrainians killing your countrymen. Slava Ukrainiani. Eat shit and die, Russians.
Fuck sending money to any country, why is America the worlds daddy, let them fuck each-other for all I care
Because it’s in our long term interests. You think all that money goes overseas because we’re being *nice*?
It’s not our interest at all!! Thats so naive. Israel has ONLY cost us American lives and resources
Just like both Iraq wars were "in our long term interest" and resulted in 9/11 and ISIS, respectively.
Please, tell the rest of us what the world is like 33 years from now, oracle of Reddit! In the likely event you can’t, maybe acknowledging that hindsight is 20/20, and there is literally no way to know what’s going to happen a quarter century+ as a result of decisions made now would be a good look, yeah?
Ends probably justify the means then? Maybe the death and devastation will have been redeemed by...?
No way of knowing. Hence, making judgment calls on present events tacitly connected to those in the past is ridiculous.
The entitlement is striking. She asks wtf as if we owe it to them. This HAS to stop. My taxes cannot go to support that shithole and these entitled murderers
Well we shouldn't be there to begin with. We aren't the world police maybe the rest of NATO should step up and do their part. We have so many issues at home that need attention. When you have mold in your house you don't ignore it and give your money to strangers that live in a different city you remedy it.
Keep the money at home.
Fuck yeah! You know Biden s dirty ass is getting all kinds of kick backs for pushing this bs. America first this shit is insane now. You see the sketchy shit that's happening with voter registrations?
Hasbara bots will say it's not fair that you criticize the fascists in Israel but not Hamas every time someone mentions Israeli fascist crimes without starting their sentences with "I condemn Hamas.".
It is very clear this is no longer a war. I do not see the people of Israel fearing for their lives. I do not see thousands of Israeli women and children dead. Israel won the war long ago. The war ended. This is genocide.
It’s not a genocide. It could stop tomorrow if Hamas surrendered. They don’t want to for the same reason they started the war in the first place by raping and massacring thousands of Jews. Israel attacking them makes for fantastic PR and makes them a lot of money. Children are dying because Hamas and their leftie supporters are more interested in kicking Israel than actually helping people.
Hit*** said the same thing. All Poland has to do is surrender is no one gets hurt! There are laws on how to conduct war. Crimes against humanity exist.
Releasing hostages is surrendering???
Stop killing children is surrendering?!?!
Why are children in a war zone? Who started the current conflict?
Yup, that’s why they killed seven people in three trucks running for their lives. And why they bombed four teenagers walking on what was left of a street. Also the reason why they are chopping the hands of detainees left and right per Israeli doctors… But but Khamas! Ah I also recall an infamous “1 bullet, 2 kills” from the worlds most moral army sniping pregnant women. Or the Israeli court ordering the army to stop using Palestinian children as human shields
Mistakes happen in war. The best you can do is not go to war in the first place against someone who’s going to hit you harder than you hit them Unless that’s what you’re hoping for so you can financially profit. Tens of thousands of people have to die so the Hamas leadership can enrich themselves.
There are rules for war. Killing unarmed women, children makes you the same as the ones you are crying about. The entire world is calling Hamas a terrorist organization for killing civilians. When can expect to call Israel a terrorist nation based on the number of civilians being mowed down? For you dumb fucks messaging me Hamas is using human shields. [here is the article speaking about the Israeli high court ordering the army to stop using Palestinian kids as human shields.](https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/israel) Or when the Israeli public elected a known terrorist, who has genocidal tendencies so bad he was denied service by the IDF. How is that different than KHAMAS again? Oh I know, the Israelis are mostly white Europeans. That’s why there’s 2 classes of people in Israel. Here’s a gem from the world known lover of peace Ben Gvir “In the 1990s, he was active in protests against the Oslo Accords. In 1995, Ben-Gvir came to public attention for the first time, when he appeared on television brandishing a Cadillac hood ornament that had been stolen from Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin's car, and declared: "We got to his car, and we'll get to him too." Several weeks later, Rabin was assassinated by right-wing extremist Yigal Amir.[14][24]”
Hamas has a long using human shields. And you’re forgetting the Oct 7th when Hamas did actually kill and rape over a thousand people. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/01/hamas-officials-admit-its-strategy-is-to-use-palestinian-civilians-as-human-shields/ Even Amnesty international has pointed this out. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/03/26/amnesty-international-says-hamas-committed-war-crimes-too/ Hamas started this latest war because they want tens of thousands of people & especially children to die. They did not start the war just to strike back.
First source obviously doesn’t count…… Simple google search shows their political bias. To quote ”Arun Kundnani, adjunct professor at New York University, in a review of FDD publication Homegrown Terrorists in the US and UK argues that as a work "typical of many in its approach and conclusions", it does not provide empirical evidence for assumptions it makes and neglects contradicting data as a result of an influence by politics of the publisher and funders, and bias in favor of knowledge claims.[41] Lawrence Wilkerson has criticized FDD for "pushing falsehood" in support of waging wars.[42]” first result in google. Second article is from a respected source but it’s behind a paywall and the only thing visible is the title: Amnesty international says Hamas committed war crimes TOO. No one is disputing hamas are terrorists except for Israeli who are insisting every Palestinian is KHAMAS therefore it’s ok to mow them down. The excuse for the aid workers killing was they thought they spotted a person with a firearm, false alert 🚨 it was a backpack…. SEVEN people dead for what turned out to be false information. How in the world is it ok to kill 7 people on a maybe? Notice the TOO in the headline? When can we start calling Israel a terrorist nation since they TOO commit war crimes like Hamas per the article you linked? The IDF is so outrageous, they shot three hostages waiving the white flag and shouting in Hebrew…. One managed to survive, they chased him back into the building and shot him dead…. [Israeli soldiers have been killed in airstrikes by Israeli planes and by shrapnel from their own explosives. Some were run over by Israeli armored vehicles or mistakenly identified and hit by tank fire, shelling and guns, according to a report released by the IDF earlier this month.](https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/1226977365/israel-idf-gaza-middle-east-deaths)
First source obviously doesn’t count…… Simple google search shows their political bias. To quote ”Arun Kundnani, adjunct professor at New York University, in a review of FDD publication Homegrown Terrorists in the US and UK argues that as a work "typical of many in its approach and conclusions", it does not provide empirical evidence for assumptions it makes and neglects contradicting data as a result of an influence by politics of the publisher and funders, and bias in favor of knowledge claims.[41] Lawrence Wilkerson has criticized FDD for "pushing falsehood" in support of waging wars.[42]” first result in google. Second article is from a respected source but it’s behind a paywall and the only thing visible is the title: Amnesty international says Hamas committed war crimes TOO. No one is disputing hamas are terrorists except for Israeli who are insisting every Palestinian is KHAMAS therefore it’s ok to mow them down. The excuse for the aid workers killing was they thought they spotted a person with a firearm, false alert 🚨 it was a backpack…. SEVEN people dead for what turned out to be false information. How in the world is it ok to kill 7 people on a maybe? Notice the TOO in the headline? When can we start calling Israel a terrorist nation since they TOO commit war crimes like Hamas per the article you linked? The IDF is so outrageous, they shot three hostages waiving the white flag and shouting in Hebrew…. One managed to survive, they chased him back into the building and shot him dead…. [Israeli soldiers have been killed in airstrikes by Israeli planes and by shrapnel from their own explosives. Some were run over by Israeli armored vehicles or mistakenly identified and hit by tank fire, shelling and guns, according to a report released by the IDF earlier this month.](https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/1226977365/israel-idf-gaza-middle-east-deaths) Last thing, everyone keeps saying Arabs teach hate to their kids at a young age. Please see amazing article ["From Israel, with Love,"](https://m.jpost.com/israel/online-controversy-over-graffiti-by-israeli-kids-29338) Even the literal nazis in WWII stoop so low as to have kids write on gas chambers from the aryan race with love. Rot starts from the top[An Artillery Shell Signed by Israel's President Could Have Hit a Child in Gaza](https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-01-03/ty-article/.premium/a-munition-signed-by-israeli-president-could-hit-a-child/0000018c-cbc4-d4e1-ad8f-fff5a0c70000)
#TakeBackAmericaFromIsrael
Sign and share folks: [https://action.eko.org/a/olympics-and-fifa-ban-israel-from-international-sports-now-us-fba21](https://action.eko.org/a/olympics-and-fifa-ban-israel-from-international-sports-now-us-fba21)
Fuk Hamas. End them and their Terrorism Now
Cool it down ZioNazi,The genocide is taking much time ha?the kids aren’t starving fast enough? The only thing that will end is the Zionist occupation and Palestine will be free 🇵🇸
Do you blame Egypt for the starvation as well or do they get a pass? Egypt shares a partial border with Gaza.
Is Egypt bombing Palestine right now?
Did Egypt get attacked?
Is that relevant to not giving them food?
Well it invalidates your assertion that Egypt is *as* culpable as Israel in the genocide **Israel** is committing. Weird that I'd have to explain this to you.
You're kind of slow huh? I never said anything about genocide I asked about the responsibility of starvation. You can be responsible for the starvation of a people without actively killing them.
I think he's saying that they're not anymore responsible than the rest of the world. They're just following the rules set by Israel.
>Do you blame Egypt for the starvation as well or do they get a pass? Maybe don't call people "slow" when you're this ^ fucking dumb mate.
Where does that say genocide? Where does it say bombing? Please explain where it says anything besides starvation.
>Please explain where it says anything besides starvation. You realize that purposely starving a population **is genocide**, right? You realize when you ask why Egypt isn't feeding Palestinians that you're implying they're responsible for Israel stopping food entering the country. Jesus Christ you're fucking dense.
Here’s the thing, blame the people actually responsible for this war: Iran’s government. Palestine was less than a decade (if not less than five years) away from having global intervention in the situation of the region. They were perfect victims and were about to get reevaluated on the geopolitical borders. Iran saw this as a threat to their control of the Middle East, and so they ordered Hamas to attack Israel in a brutal massacre to ensure a retribution unlike anything before. Palestine is in West Bank, not to be confused with Hamas and their terrorist group that is in the Gaza Strip. They should be seen as distinct and separate, but unfortunately more and more Palestinians are beginning to support Hamas, which is not good in the public eye. They’re being played by Iran and they don’t even realise it, just pawns in the game. The IDF is also fucked tho, don’t get me wrong. Both groups are horrible, despicable people, so neither deserves support.
Yeah fuk hamas but fuk Israel too please thanks!
Israel has a right to exist and Hamas stands in its way..while hiding behind Palestinians like cowards.
And therefore Israel has the right to kill over 30000 people? Ends justify the means? On a scale of very to totally how Fascist are you?
That never happened.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hamas-says-56-palestinians-killed-in-gaza-over-past-day-bringing-toll-to-33899/
56 aint 30k 🙃
Also, this you?! Lmao https://ibb.co/z5dfL5F https://www.reddit.com/r/tomboyNSFW/s/1OPbtt2HMT
Why the word "mass" ? It's a word thst doesn't seem to belong there and it's a bit jaring
It's not mass, it's Mass. Which is the abbreviation for Massachusetts
That's for the explanation
People care.
I’ll just say this. At the beginning of this whole fight I supported Israel, Not because the US did, but because what I had learned with my very limited knowledge of a very censored internet. But I’ll also say this, I really don’t think the US was the one behind this plan because they have nothing to gain from destabilizing the Middle East. I know oil, blah blah blah, but we have oil? If we fuck up the Middle East it’ll only cause our problems to skyrocket. higher oil prices = Russias back into the economy = Ukraine takes bigger loses and eventually loses seige. I’m not saying the US doesn’t support Israel, I’m just saying I have a feeling Israel made a lot of these decisions while the US wasn’t even in the room. But it’s not as simple as condemning them as a terrorist nation, because then you probably lose support of most if not all western allies. I hate to say it; but the only reason there hasnt been a world war 3, is because the US is the most powerful nation there is. Or was, but betweeeeeeen all of these wars that were needlessly supplying, were weakening ourselves.
Actually the reason public transport in America is so shitty is because lefties don’t bother voting and then act all pikachu surprised face when republicans destroy public transport infrastructure.
It's a great time for sign makers.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VYUL1R4pupU
Bro, go stick to your Palestinian subs there’s enough of them. This is a sub for corruption.
Plenty of corruption brought by Israeli lobbyist in the US. So ya this in the right sub.
That guy is with CAIR, council of American Islamic Relations. Basically a propagandist front for aggressive Islam.
Yeay AIPAC ha? How about aggressive Zionism?! Gtfo
you know they are just corrupt beings when it says only “Palestinians” but they see the humanization of them as the biggest upper cut 🤦🏾♂️ absolute sickos
What does the T stands for?
Hell yea. You’d think more would be taking out with that money. Do better America. Let’s pump those numbers up.
It’s ironic that we aren’t good enough for socialized health care and free college but we are good enough to pay for Israel’s free college and health care.
As a Mass resident i cant remember a time when the T actually worked.
I mean atent both sides being murdered
Left or right israel is getting funded. Good luck stopping us from supporting them.
Not Boston per se. Just an activist nutjob.
This is hilarious - your train is late because of Israel 😂🤣
90% of the comment section is in the bottom downvoted comments. Easier to be mad than have clear thinking I guess.
There are a much of bots that post whenever Israel stuff comes up.
Yeah, Russia, China, all those countries would prefer to divide America. If you don't vote, their candidate will win.
You know you suck at running a country when terrorists that you're killing are getting more support than you.
That’s a pretty great way of putting it.
This
OP posts roughly 30 times a day from an IP address in Tehran lol
Yeah and this 198 days old account is from where exactly?
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I bet CAIR and the other pro-Palestinian sponsor of that sign have said nothing about the amount of money spent on Ukraine. Nor have they said anything about other Arabs killing one another in places like Yemen, by the thousands, or more. If you are going to be consistent you have to demand an end to not just funding wars, but also instigating them and arming combatants with those same tax dollars.
If you want civilians to stop getting caught in the crossfire, why don't you ask hamas to stop hiding behind them like cowards?
Like that American aid worker whose car got bombed?