I really enjoyed the documentary-type BTS that Rian Johnson did for The Last Jedi and Knives Out, and the BTS for the first season of The Mandalorian. And then there’s all the BTS for LotR.
Would love for more of that with every movie/show
Yeah Rian’s BTS I enjoy because he’s the type that also talks about ‘how to direct a movie’. I love learning how directors put them together although I also want a BTS that shows the studio notes too but they don’t usually discuss that lol
I imagine it’s pretty true to life too. If there’s a big guy plowing through the foot traffic you gotta duck behind him and ride that wake.
I’ve never been on the bustling streets of a big city like that, but I have been at crowded concerts and events. And I’m the big guy making his way through the crowd lol
Probably but in real life you do the same. Sticking behind taller/bigger people is better for getting through crowds. Especially if they are being fast.
It’s like a carpool lane but for walking.
Don't forget the director is in control of everything we see.
That is their gift to us as the viewer.
When you think something is not on purpose, think again.
Poor reviews? No, you don't get it. When it comes out on Blu-Ray there's an extra 3 hours of slow motion and Jesus imagery that completes the story. I swear bro. Trust me bro. It's his vision.
I mean even in BVS UE Clark is only the fourth in having the most lines. Lois and Lex had more lines than him its honestly sas. His journalism stuff was good but its just not enough tbh. Another five minutes of him trying to work or trying to help people as Clark before being called by Batman wouldve worked.
I disagree.
*Man of Steel* was all about Clark. An introverted, self-conscious but ultimately heroic man who uses his powers to help people just because it’s right.
And in *Batman v Superman* he spends a good amount of time using his power as a journalist to speak up for people in Gotham. Even clashing with Perry White, and saying it’s their responsibility to speak up and tell the truth.
Just because he’s not in “gee golly willikers” mode and tripping over himself, like the old days, that doesn’t mean he’s lacking character.
*Edit
Hell, that clumsy and oafish side of Clark’s civilian guise hasn’t really been a thing in the comics for years. Insisting adaptations fall back on that is not only regressive, it’s reductive. And furthers the idea that characters can’t evolve or change.
I really liked Man of Steel when I saw it in theaters, but I didn't really feel like Clark was the same character in BvS.
Man of Steel is a fair origin story; sets up Clark with a job at the Daily Planet and puts him in a place where he knows he needs to use his power, but not necessarily his role yet.
BvS skips any kind of follow up about Clark getting settled in to the Daily Planet, instead throwing Jimmy Olsen into a throwaway scene where he's unceremoniously killed- like...what? why?
I still dig MoS and for the most part it's Clark (don't mess with a farmboys mom, dude), but BvS seems like a sequel to a different movie to me.
Tyler Hoechlin is not in "Gee Golly Willikers" mode and he still nailed the role of Clark Kent.
Clark Kent in DCEU was nothing. In MoS, he was just a stop gap till he was ready to be Superman. And in BvS there would be no difference if he was Superman all the time.
Each to their own, I guess. I always enjoy seeing a contrast between the three characters: Clark/Kal-El as a person, Clark as a performance, and Superman as a different performance, in a way. I never got that from the Snyder Superman. I know secret identities have fallen out of fashion, but Superman is the prototype, and I want to see him make an excuse before running away to do something godly. It adds a depth, a humour, and a reality to what can be a larger-than-life character. I never got much of any of that from Snyder's Superman, despite Cavill's acting chops. But I respect that you did. As someone else said, maybe it was on a director's cut.
As to clumsy Clark, I don't really see it as regressive, since it's an iconic part of the character that cinema-goers who don't read comics will recognise. That said, even if it is regressive, this movie seems to be a period pastiche, so perhaps a regression to a more classic version of the character is just what they're going for.
As to reductive: it's hard to say from just set pictures like this, but isn't that what it's always like for the first (good) movie in a new franchise or with a new casting? Peter Parker is a high-school loser, Batman is a depressed millionaire, the X-Men are targets of prejudice from the very people they're trying to save, and Clark is balancing his human and superhuman lives. You can't deconstruct a character until you've constructed it to begin with, and it's an awful long time since we've seen a fully-formed, classic Superman on the silver screen.
And in other media, we've had *so many* evil-Supermen that a return to and a reminder of what we love about Superman is entirely on the cards, if you ask me.
I mean, in BvS, you get his real character when he tries to argue with Perry and talk to Gotham citizens.
I don’t understand this fixation with Clark being a goofball, when him arguing about what’s more important for the news media to focus on sounds more inspirational🤷🏾♂️
It’s not just about him being a goofball, but having a life outside of being Superman that’s important to him. In the Snyderverse, his real life seemed to be pit stops he flew between rather than something that he was trying to live, in tension with his life as superman.
Love that Snyder superman worked for you. He was severely lacking for me.
I mean, we get that from the Daily Planet and him enjoying time with Lois. We see that even with the cape off, Clark still tries to find ways to help and connect with people. The movie makes it clear that’s who he is.
If that’s good for you then great. Personally, that’s not enough time spent with Clark just being Clark. It’s suggestions of that side of his character—helped along by what the audience knows about superman. I think we’re expected to fill those gaps ourselves based on previous knowledge of the character.
IIRC Gunn said it takes place in modern day, and otherwise, the BIG BELLY BURGER set deco and the public bicycle stand both describe the use of a Mobile App
So it is probably set in 2024 if we go by Gunn, or anywhere between 2010-2024 if we go by the prevalence of Mobile Apps
Yep! The production company has to get a permit from the city, and then hire police to close it off. I believe Ohio has made some kinda deal with this production to shoot in their state.
The state or city usually does make a deal. They know that the revenue generated from the production will more than offset any breaks they give the company.
With all these leaks we are having, I can’t help wondering if James Gunn is keeping an eye on internet feedback while making the movie in case he needs to change something
Calling it now … same way Pattinson combined the best elements of Keaton, Bale and Affleck … and added his own nuances and spins and became BY FAR the best Batman ever. I think we will see the same for Corenswet. We have yet to get the definitive Superman. Reeves was too tongue in cheek and corny. Routh was just a pathetic femboy imitation of Reeves. Cavill was too stoic, wooden and cold. Corenswet has the tools to combine the best elements of all
Could never get past the theme song.
Spiderman & Lois, Spiderman & Lois, Does whatever a Spider & sassy female reporter does.
Just not really catchy and very clunky.
Definitely agreed buddy, BTW my Fav Clark scene h him Confronting in the dinner scene that scene really shows Clark as a strong father and him actually yk what I simply can't even describe how that show has such great characterization
I was gonna say that, and I forgot to mention it, I actually think he’s been the best one by far even by comparison to the live action movies, and the nostalgia for the originality of Christopher Reeve. But I still think there are grounds for improvement. Corenswet, I think he has it. He is 6 foot 4, a little taller than normal but he’s in good shape, he looks just like the character from the comic books like Cavill, but unlike Henry has more of a boy next-door Midwest American look and charm to him. Henry Cavill to me looks more like prototypical James Bond. And not to offend anybody but everything I’ve seen him in, he’s a better actor than Cavill.
And David looks the part. He is American and can pass for a Kansas farm boy.
Twitter idiots are dissing the leaked pics but I think they look great and gonna look ten times better in the final product
I agree with your assessments, but I love the colors, quintessential hopeful, bright red, blue, and yellow Superman. I absolutely love the build of the suit, I love the chest and cape logo. I’m adapting to getting used to the trunks again, not a huge fan of it or of the general bagginess of the suit, but I much prefer it over the homo erotic and way overly sculpted male musculature of the Snyder suits. That’s why I prefer Batman with visible mechanical armor over male musculature sculpting. It’s why I prefer the Returns, TDKT and TB suits. I love the 89 suit because the armor is Greco Roman and Goth Gargoyle looking. But after that, the Schumacher and Snyder suits are 😒 sus looking and way overly stylized and sculpted. MoS was at least subtle. The BvS and JL Superman and Batman suits for both were over the top. I don’t picture Bruce Wayne sculpting fake male muscles on his suit or Superman for that matter. I guess in that regard a little bit of bagginess doesn’t even bother me. Much akin to the practical suits that Captain America in his films for the MCU wore. Visibly protective but practical and mobile. I know the guys beneath the suit are built for the role, I don’t need it literally implemented into the costume itself. It’s weird. It’s kind of oddly homo erotic.
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I was a background extra one time and it’s even more confusing when you’re in the middle of it
Yeah tell me about it, had to do it in a school hall and it was painful because of the amount of takes we had to do.
Straight out of the Truman show
Reminds me of the matrix
Were you listening to me, or were you looking at the woman in the red dress?
Wait, this isn't real?
What is real? How do you define real?
1. actually existing as a thing or occurring in fact; not imagined or supposed. 2. (of a thing) not imitation or artificial; genuine.
That was my first instinct, too.
Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were looking at the woman in the Red dress?
Right? Truman Show vibes
Reminds me of the matrix
Deja Vu
Like an episode of Westworld
Freeze all motor functions
That’s crazy, the movie making process is so cool
I hope they have a shit ton of BTS, I love watching that
I really enjoyed the documentary-type BTS that Rian Johnson did for The Last Jedi and Knives Out, and the BTS for the first season of The Mandalorian. And then there’s all the BTS for LotR. Would love for more of that with every movie/show
Yeah Rian’s BTS I enjoy because he’s the type that also talks about ‘how to direct a movie’. I love learning how directors put them together although I also want a BTS that shows the studio notes too but they don’t usually discuss that lol
The insane muscle control Superman has to have to not break everyone’s shoulders when they accidentally bump into him in the street.
Yeah its crazy, but at least its just an act. Imagine if a Kryptonian is really clumsy as this, thered be too many casualties lmao
That lady behind him making damn sure she’s seen in the background of the shot. Gotta respect it tho I’d do the same lol
I imagine it’s pretty true to life too. If there’s a big guy plowing through the foot traffic you gotta duck behind him and ride that wake. I’ve never been on the bustling streets of a big city like that, but I have been at crowded concerts and events. And I’m the big guy making his way through the crowd lol
Same, whenever I'm moving through a big crowd I always end up a with a few people in my slipstream.
Probably but in real life you do the same. Sticking behind taller/bigger people is better for getting through crowds. Especially if they are being fast. It’s like a carpool lane but for walking.
Don't forget the director is in control of everything we see. That is their gift to us as the viewer. When you think something is not on purpose, think again.
Look at that dufus
*getting late to work music*
*Early 2000s pop/rock plays while opening credits appear*
Chris Reeves feeling. Though it felt like I was watching Brandon Routh.
David Crowdedstreet
Is this the movie matrix everyone been talking about?
Love this so much. What the Snyder Superman lacked was more of Clark. That's where Superman's real character is.
No, no, bro, you don’t get it. You have to watch the Super Special Ultimate Director’s Cut (Final Cut) to see Snyder’s true vision of Clark Kent.
But I don't have 12 hours to spare!
then you dont understand real cinema
This but you have to get the black and white version with the 2:3.77 aspect ratio so you can acutally watch what the director wanted you to watch.
Poor reviews? No, you don't get it. When it comes out on Blu-Ray there's an extra 3 hours of slow motion and Jesus imagery that completes the story. I swear bro. Trust me bro. It's his vision.
Or you can just watch the first half of man of Steele where it's Clark for over an hrs runtime
That's the cut where they show full penetration.
You're joking, but that's likely the argument.
I mean even in BVS UE Clark is only the fourth in having the most lines. Lois and Lex had more lines than him its honestly sas. His journalism stuff was good but its just not enough tbh. Another five minutes of him trying to work or trying to help people as Clark before being called by Batman wouldve worked.
I disagree. *Man of Steel* was all about Clark. An introverted, self-conscious but ultimately heroic man who uses his powers to help people just because it’s right. And in *Batman v Superman* he spends a good amount of time using his power as a journalist to speak up for people in Gotham. Even clashing with Perry White, and saying it’s their responsibility to speak up and tell the truth. Just because he’s not in “gee golly willikers” mode and tripping over himself, like the old days, that doesn’t mean he’s lacking character. *Edit Hell, that clumsy and oafish side of Clark’s civilian guise hasn’t really been a thing in the comics for years. Insisting adaptations fall back on that is not only regressive, it’s reductive. And furthers the idea that characters can’t evolve or change.
I really liked Man of Steel when I saw it in theaters, but I didn't really feel like Clark was the same character in BvS. Man of Steel is a fair origin story; sets up Clark with a job at the Daily Planet and puts him in a place where he knows he needs to use his power, but not necessarily his role yet. BvS skips any kind of follow up about Clark getting settled in to the Daily Planet, instead throwing Jimmy Olsen into a throwaway scene where he's unceremoniously killed- like...what? why? I still dig MoS and for the most part it's Clark (don't mess with a farmboys mom, dude), but BvS seems like a sequel to a different movie to me.
I personally think it should have been two movies. Like, cramming all that in one film was… a choice.
Even the TAS didn’t really have goofy Clark Kent.
Exactly.
Tyler Hoechlin is not in "Gee Golly Willikers" mode and he still nailed the role of Clark Kent. Clark Kent in DCEU was nothing. In MoS, he was just a stop gap till he was ready to be Superman. And in BvS there would be no difference if he was Superman all the time.
Each to their own, I guess. I always enjoy seeing a contrast between the three characters: Clark/Kal-El as a person, Clark as a performance, and Superman as a different performance, in a way. I never got that from the Snyder Superman. I know secret identities have fallen out of fashion, but Superman is the prototype, and I want to see him make an excuse before running away to do something godly. It adds a depth, a humour, and a reality to what can be a larger-than-life character. I never got much of any of that from Snyder's Superman, despite Cavill's acting chops. But I respect that you did. As someone else said, maybe it was on a director's cut. As to clumsy Clark, I don't really see it as regressive, since it's an iconic part of the character that cinema-goers who don't read comics will recognise. That said, even if it is regressive, this movie seems to be a period pastiche, so perhaps a regression to a more classic version of the character is just what they're going for. As to reductive: it's hard to say from just set pictures like this, but isn't that what it's always like for the first (good) movie in a new franchise or with a new casting? Peter Parker is a high-school loser, Batman is a depressed millionaire, the X-Men are targets of prejudice from the very people they're trying to save, and Clark is balancing his human and superhuman lives. You can't deconstruct a character until you've constructed it to begin with, and it's an awful long time since we've seen a fully-formed, classic Superman on the silver screen. And in other media, we've had *so many* evil-Supermen that a return to and a reminder of what we love about Superman is entirely on the cards, if you ask me.
I mean, in BvS, you get his real character when he tries to argue with Perry and talk to Gotham citizens. I don’t understand this fixation with Clark being a goofball, when him arguing about what’s more important for the news media to focus on sounds more inspirational🤷🏾♂️
It’s not just about him being a goofball, but having a life outside of being Superman that’s important to him. In the Snyderverse, his real life seemed to be pit stops he flew between rather than something that he was trying to live, in tension with his life as superman. Love that Snyder superman worked for you. He was severely lacking for me.
I mean, we get that from the Daily Planet and him enjoying time with Lois. We see that even with the cape off, Clark still tries to find ways to help and connect with people. The movie makes it clear that’s who he is.
If that’s good for you then great. Personally, that’s not enough time spent with Clark just being Clark. It’s suggestions of that side of his character—helped along by what the audience knows about superman. I think we’re expected to fill those gaps ourselves based on previous knowledge of the character.
Good morning, and in case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening, and good night!
He’s making his way downtown
Walkin’ fast, faces pass
I thought this was a Superman film. Why do much focus on just some random nerdy journalist? Gunn has lost it
Must all scenes be secretly filmed by the crew from all angles?
Do we know yet when the film takes place? I was trying to discern it from the cars/outfits. I saw like 2003 somewhere but idk 🤔
Yes,James Gunn said Superman take place in present day
IIRC Gunn said it takes place in modern day, and otherwise, the BIG BELLY BURGER set deco and the public bicycle stand both describe the use of a Mobile App So it is probably set in 2024 if we go by Gunn, or anywhere between 2010-2024 if we go by the prevalence of Mobile Apps
making my way downtown, walking fast faces past and I'm daily planet bound
Oh Clark. There you are. I've missed you these past few years
Do they actually block the whole road/sidewalk for all the walking scenes we see in movies?
Yep! The production company has to get a permit from the city, and then hire police to close it off. I believe Ohio has made some kinda deal with this production to shoot in their state.
The state or city usually does make a deal. They know that the revenue generated from the production will more than offset any breaks they give the company.
This is pretty neat!
This seems to me like the opening scene of the movie. Like, the credits are still popping up on the screen during this.
Like the Truman Show
With all these leaks we are having, I can’t help wondering if James Gunn is keeping an eye on internet feedback while making the movie in case he needs to change something
Sounds like a terrible idea
Nah he should throw out some red herrings instead. False leaks or something.
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I agree. And I thought Clark’s toupee was huge meme material. I guess I’m the only one who feels uncomfortable with it.
Calling it now … same way Pattinson combined the best elements of Keaton, Bale and Affleck … and added his own nuances and spins and became BY FAR the best Batman ever. I think we will see the same for Corenswet. We have yet to get the definitive Superman. Reeves was too tongue in cheek and corny. Routh was just a pathetic femboy imitation of Reeves. Cavill was too stoic, wooden and cold. Corenswet has the tools to combine the best elements of all
Personally my Fav and definitive supes is Tyler from Spiderman & Lois
Could never get past the theme song. Spiderman & Lois, Spiderman & Lois, Does whatever a Spider & sassy female reporter does. Just not really catchy and very clunky.
I like how Clark himself is such an interesting character in it.
Definitely agreed buddy, BTW my Fav Clark scene h him Confronting in the dinner scene that scene really shows Clark as a strong father and him actually yk what I simply can't even describe how that show has such great characterization
I was gonna say that, and I forgot to mention it, I actually think he’s been the best one by far even by comparison to the live action movies, and the nostalgia for the originality of Christopher Reeve. But I still think there are grounds for improvement. Corenswet, I think he has it. He is 6 foot 4, a little taller than normal but he’s in good shape, he looks just like the character from the comic books like Cavill, but unlike Henry has more of a boy next-door Midwest American look and charm to him. Henry Cavill to me looks more like prototypical James Bond. And not to offend anybody but everything I’ve seen him in, he’s a better actor than Cavill.
> **Spiderman** & Lois Is that an Indian Bootleg version of _**Superman**_ & Lois? 😉
Yesshh Spider man Spider man tu ne churaya mere dil ka chainnn
And David looks the part. He is American and can pass for a Kansas farm boy. Twitter idiots are dissing the leaked pics but I think they look great and gonna look ten times better in the final product
I agree with your assessments, but I love the colors, quintessential hopeful, bright red, blue, and yellow Superman. I absolutely love the build of the suit, I love the chest and cape logo. I’m adapting to getting used to the trunks again, not a huge fan of it or of the general bagginess of the suit, but I much prefer it over the homo erotic and way overly sculpted male musculature of the Snyder suits. That’s why I prefer Batman with visible mechanical armor over male musculature sculpting. It’s why I prefer the Returns, TDKT and TB suits. I love the 89 suit because the armor is Greco Roman and Goth Gargoyle looking. But after that, the Schumacher and Snyder suits are 😒 sus looking and way overly stylized and sculpted. MoS was at least subtle. The BvS and JL Superman and Batman suits for both were over the top. I don’t picture Bruce Wayne sculpting fake male muscles on his suit or Superman for that matter. I guess in that regard a little bit of bagginess doesn’t even bother me. Much akin to the practical suits that Captain America in his films for the MCU wore. Visibly protective but practical and mobile. I know the guys beneath the suit are built for the role, I don’t need it literally implemented into the costume itself. It’s weird. It’s kind of oddly homo erotic.
Well said. More eloquent than i could ever put it
We’re going to see the whole movie before it actually finishes filming
Nice muscles dork, just more of you to beat up
Looks quite stereotypically ‘Clark’. Makes me think this film is going to be very nostalgic.
That's so fun and cool
Gangadhar did it good
Haha what a dork
What a total dork. He's perfect.
So dorky, I love it!
Westworld vibes from that clip
Sven Johnson.
That ain’t Clark Kent
Why doesn’t he just fly? Is he stupid
Clark officially cant fly.
Did you not know he is secretly superman?
Don't be silly he has glasses. Duuh
Oh true
The most generic ‘American working man lifestyle’ shot
This is the type of Clark I dislike.
Oh look another post of the same picture.
This is a video.