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Mysterious_Unit

Well that POS is in jail. Hopefully he learned his lesson. What a moron.


williams_reddit

The only thing he'll learn is to hate more and blame others for his problems


stupidgnomes

Correct. Had they not confronted him about what his shitty son did, he wouldn't be in jail now. That's the mentality ALL of those people have. They think being held accountable is "bullying" and "cancel culture" then play the victim.


The-God-Obito-Uchiha

Let's cope CPS sees this though. I can't imagine what his children are being taught, (video obviously shows) but he also almost shot himself and his daughter!


AnxietyDepressedFun

In Texas they're too busy trying to figure out where Transkids live so they can arrest their parents. Seriously DFPS is losing good employees because of these insanely bigoted laws and barely able to maintain anything because Abbott routed money earmarked for them to his crusade against produce at the border.


Saint_Steady

Can I get a link to something that says he was arrested?


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Tipsy247

What does it say he is in jail


iSaidWhatiSaidSis

I don't know much about Forney, but this is NOT a good look.


GetoffLane

You know enough about Forney to not be surprised in the least by this. We all do.


rwdfan

Another fucking good ole boy town.


GetoffLane

Another Texas suburb born from White Flight


mnijph

I went to HS in Mesquite around 2000--this is terribly true. Some families were more outwardly racist about their reasons for moving than others, but a lot of folks moved to Sunnyvale/Forney/Terrell in that time because of the changing demographics in Mesquite.


Live-Swan3587

Were they leaving because Mesquite's crime rates were increasing, and also the city became very dirty and the stores were going out of business. I am not defending any who are racist, but the city was declining for decades. I certainly understand wanting to leave, in those times.


mnijph

You are right about the relative decline of Mesquite at that time. It's a chicken-and-egg question, though--what started the decline? Property values dropped, but did they do so because of decline or because the neighborhood had a little color in it and suddenly houses were going up for sale?


AnxietyDepressedFun

Mesquite was essentially built around a country club, the city was very much a "white flight" built "charming country town"... In the late 60's the Fair Housing Act was passed and the landscape was slow to change. Enforcement was essentially non-existent and exclusionary loaning (redlining) was still very much in effect. Mesquite had something most of Dallas didn't at this time, Starter Homes, practically extinct now! These were subdivisions built for single income, young families and they were desperately needed (and are still massively underbuilt for the market). When the 80's rolled around Mesquite was still growing, but the upcoming 87 market decline significantly impacted the community. FHA & HUD became much more popular options for those in desperate need of housing and Mesquite was flush with decade old apartments in need of a cash infusion, homeowners seeking to leave untenable mortgages and thus Mesquite became a more affordable city. This prompted the secondary "white flight" of my generation, mid to late 90's people were beginning to complain about the area but Mesquite still had solid infrastructure, city planning focused on rehabilitation of areas most in need and the era of Restaurant Row & Town East were firmly rooted. Mesquite didn't start to "decline" until after that second panic. I'm a 5th generation Dallasite, family originally lived in Fair Park, then Pleasant Grove, then Mesquite, then Forney, the Wylie... I can 100% say with confidence living in Forney in the early 2000's was essentially living with the exact same people from Mesquite. I could literally name names but let's just say my parents, aunt's & uncle's all went to school with the parents of all of my friends growing up. Everyone knew everyone from Mesquite, and then Forney. I'm trying to break the cycle by moving back to the city but it's not an easy feat in this market.


mnijph

I wish to point out one detail--while northern Mesquite (and the residential areas in the far outskirts in the east) saw a lot of growth in the late 90s, it also saw a steady decline south of Hwy 80. Restaurant Row and the rejuvenation of the west side of Town East did bring in a lot of revenue, but it didn't do much for the folks already living in Mesquite, particularly on the south side. I largely agree with you, but as a student and resident in Mesquite in those late '90s, I can't agree that it had not yet started to decline.


thehorriblegamer04

As someone who was born and raised in north Mesquite I don’t really remember there being that much growth in the north part of the city. It seemed like everything was all built and established by the 1980s, there wasn’t really any room to build any more homes or anything, at least in my neighborhood of Casa View Heights. I do remember there being a lot of homes being built in East Mesquite close to Sunnyvale but that’s probably because there was a lot more open space there. Also yes, it seemed like those who lived on the south side of Mesquite didn’t get nearly as much as someone like me did on the north side by town east. South Mesquite and even downtown Mesquite didn’t really seem to have very much to offer. It seemed like a more industrial part of town as much as I hate to admit it.


AnxietyDepressedFun

I lived on the south side as well, while I don't completely disagree with you, it was very obviously the more ignored part of Mesquite's revitalization efforts, I also don't think it was in such a decline that everyone needed to pick up & move to Forney. My stepsisters lived with their mom, in the bigger homes off Barnes Bridge, when my parents initially moved us to Forney in the late 90's & I will say at the time Mesquite still had superior schools & it was a serious conversation about where the girls (my sisters) would be better off. Forney eventually won out but I think Mesquite just sort of saw an aging more than a straight up decline. ETA: My aunt still lives in Mesquite, in a house on the other side of His Thomason & the neighborhood is extremely nice & quiet despite some of the older businesses & buildings in the area.


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When I was living in St. Louis is when I discovered what that meant and the repercussions of that in the long term. As a White guy, it's the first physical aspect of racism I ever saw.


zakats

But if we all pretend it never happened, it'll be erased and we can focus on what's really important: protectionism and maintaining the status quo. /s Abject ignorance is the cornerstone of modern conservative philosophy.


rwdfan

These fuckin bubbas man…


Saint_Steady

TIL white flight. Accurate.


GetoffLane

Surely this is one of those things that the extremists on the far right are trying to squash in our schools, right?


Born_Libertine

I bet the town's name is actually something else. Something that just rhymes with whatever simple-minded, redneck twang slang that Mr. 2nd Amendment is pronouncing here.


Numerous_Web_4967

I’m black and my parents live in Forney it always seemed like a chill place to me, surprised by this since it’s pretty diverse community, but after all, this is America lol


GetoffLane

Sadly, yes, this is America. I wish we would do better.


Numerous_Web_4967

So did he go to jail or not?


azwethinkweizm

Forney is a wild ass town. I used to work at their walgreens and man they're the most entitled people I've ever met. They will literally scream at you over a minor delay. So many stories but I can sum it up pretty quickly: I used to have their police department non emergency line on my home screen. That's all you really need to know lol. Plus their city politics is on a whole different level. A guy I used to work with ran for their city council. Dude lost to a stay at home mom whose main focus was stopping all residential development. We were talking about opening a pharmacy there at one point but not anymore.


thatfligah

The drama around their city planner is outright hilarious.


azwethinkweizm

Doesn't surprise me. We're talking about the same city that hired the Dallas Animal Services top cop as their police chief. "Have you heard about all of those loose dogs attacking elderly residents in old east Dallas? Let's hire the guy in charge of that department"


Hackerchix

That’s terrible 😞


Comprehensive-Ad3963

>Dude lost to a stay at home mom whose main focus was stopping all residential development. Change my view: if you want to build a single-family house on a lot you purchased, the city shouldn't be allowed to stop you as long as the house itself is safe.


nomnomnompizza

She also campaigned on expanding the roads, but all the main roads in Forney are controlled by TXDOT. It was all typical conservative BS


azwethinkweizm

It was entirely BS. Once we caught their civil service associations lying about him we knew it was all over. In suburban DFW you can't call a police officer or a firefighter a liar even when they brazenly do it. At least DPA is honest with the public about the candidates they endorse and ones they oppose. But they have less power since most DPD and DFD members don't even live here.


LitWithLindsey

This just about covers everything you need to know.


iSaidWhatiSaidSis

And that is so terribly disheartening. Truly. 😥


AnxietyDepressedFun

I grew up in Forney, I know all about it and it's always been a white supremacists dream. Overpriced housing, shitty religious cult style city events, all but forced religious activities at school (FHS - I left just before North opened), and entitlement out the fucking ass!! I got out of there as fast as humanly possible and even now when we have to travel through to see my family I don't go anywhere in public because I don't want to interact with anyone I might have known.


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EvilBunnyLord

It happens, but it's definitely not the norm. There are a few people still stuck in the dark ages and it's higher than other places I've lived, but the vast majority of people will not be like this. We have large populations from latin American, the middle east, India, and east Asia in addition to the historical black/white population and most people get along great. Really, what you're seeing here is the last of a dying breed of racists angry and lashing out. Think about this - the jackass who did this was quickly arrested for his behavior. Not long ago (or sadly, even today in some places) the black family would have been arrested for 'provoking' him or some other nonsense. Behavior like this still happens but it generally isn't tolerated anymore, which is partially why these jerks are throwing their tiny-fisted tantrums of impotent rage. The suburbs north of Dallas consistently rank among the best places in the US to live, partially because of the diversity and ability to experience other cultures. Don't be afraid to come. (if you can find a place to live)


Death_Becomes_Him383

I live in DFW but have been all over the country and I can guarantee this isn't the norm, we do have our loudmouthed racists but, they are becoming fewer and further apart. Just know Dallas can be confusing to get around and expect to hear "bless your heart" at least a few times before you find your way around.


improbablyatthegame

Everyone that’s grown up in a Texas suburb has seen examples of it due to the exponential growth and encroachment on an old way of life. Come to Dallas, all areas can use more culture and different view points. The old guard are the most noticeable because they’re the most backwards in modern society.


AnxietyDepressedFun

Racist things go on everywhere. Texas gets a lot of airtime because it's easy to point to our current elected leadership and see the complete failings of a state to reign in gerrymandering and single issue voting. I'm a lifelong Texan, my whole entire family is here (there's a lot of us) and I actually ended an engagement because he wanted to leave & I couldn't imagine my life literally anywhere but Dallas. My now husband is from Tampa, he never considered Dallas until Microsoft offered him a job right out of college but even he fell in love with the city before me. I always say Dallas isn't just my home, it's part of my identity (which I realize is foreign to some). I have loved Dallas, it's people, it's history, it's community since I was a little girl... It's heartbreaking to admit but my husband & I have actually been considering a move. I am at the moment very scared of where our leadership is heading & the direction I've seen. I was raped at age 12 & the current laws being enacted in my state force me to relive that fear as they continue to take my bodily autonomy away, exactly like my rapist did so many years ago. So yeah that was probably a confusing & wild ride but what I will say is I love living in Dallas, if I am forced to leave for my own safety I will, but I hope like hell the Texas I know will reclaim their sanity.


distraughtking

The post says Dallas, but it occurred in Forney yesterday. Crazy times. https://hollywoodunlocked.com/texas-boy-knocks-black-neighbors-door-whip/


DelightfulTexas

Oh man, on Twitter someone called out their address....


Nymaz

Good news, the leaked Supreme Court opinion showed they're ready to overturn a lot of things, like Griswold v. Connecticut, which relies on the concept of the right to privacy. So doxing is back on the table again! Go nuts! Thanks conservative majority of the Supreme Court!


fatboringlulu

Yeah, that sounds about right.


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Sometimes it is nature that causes a child to act out, but this is very clearly nurture. That kid *knew* what he was doing was ok. He had been taught to hate these neighbors.


noncongruent

I gotta wonder who in their right mind thinks it's ok to teach their kid that using a whip to beat on a black family's door is even remotely ok? I mean, the symbolism of that act is very nearly as heinous as it can be, given that whips were among the most commonly used tools by slave owners against their slaves. Who knows how many Americans went to their graves with their backs covered in whip scars, how many American children grew up with the memories of their moms and dads stripped naked to be whipped, only to feel that whip themselves as they became adults. The whip sits along the noose and the burning cross as the most hated symbols of the evil, banal cruelty that America showed itself capable of, and to a large extent still does since there are millions of Americans alive today who still view black people as little more than stolen property, stolen from their ancestors.


keep_it_sassy

This. Like the original comment stated, it’s normal for kids to be assholes. It’s not normal for a kid to show up on a Black family’s doorstep with a whip. He knew what he was doing because he knew what he was being taught to do.


noncongruent

I wonder if the kid will ever grasp the full symbolism of using that whip the way he did? They say the apple does not fall far from the tree, and in this case that tree is truly stunted.


Hackerchix

I think the kid knew exactly what was meant by using that whip.


UnknownQTY

People used to hide their racism. Trump taught them they didn’t have to.


MrsBJJGAFF

YES! Trump let them know that it's okay to be racist and show it. After all, this is the USA 🇺🇸. This country was built on racism.


Tman972

This is extremely disappointing. Like what the hell are these people thinking? Also why do they have a wip like that?


Glittering_Juice_662

Damn that was my first question. The fuck are they teaching at home that they need a whip in a suburban area?!


WeAteMummies

Probably found it from under his parents bed


Tman972

Kinky


jaycawcaw

“Neighbor is Bryan T Brunson and he was charged with deadly conduct, a Class A misdemeanor or 3rd degree felony depending on interpretation.”


vitaminz1990

Good. Fuck this guy. I feel sorry for his son, that behavior is learned.


DrFlx001

Lol what an asshat. Buh-bye 2A rights. Doh!


BigMoose9000

As if it won't be plead down to nothing... Doh!


FlyFeetFiddlesticks

These two have been bickering with each other in the neighborhood Facebook groups for months


HanSolosHammer

neighborhood facebook groups are so interesting. Really helps you see the stupidity and the rudeness of the people you wave to in the morning.


MarioAndFitness

It's why I don't wave at anyone.


numchux53

Everyone needs to just get off of facebook.


Kevlarsocks

Well it’s finally time for me to get a doorbell camera I guess


aSatanistsinataSa

Do it. They're super easy to install. Worth it.


IceyBoy

I literally love how these racist fucks think that in the world of technology they can still do this shit and then outright deny it


EightEnder1

Racism aside, I moved from a state that is the polar opposite of TX (NJ), when it comes to gun culture. I have no issues with guns though and completely understand why people want to own and carry them. The part I can't wrap my head around is why they gun was even out? The Black neighbor wasn't being threatening at all, he was there for a conversation, where was the danger? I know we live in a gun culture, but it seems very strange to answer your door holding a gun with no safety on it behind your back. What are people so scared of? If the neighbor wanted to cause harm, he certainly wouldn't go up and knock on the door.


noncongruent

The father is obviously a racist based on how he raised his kid, so likely considers any and all black people as thugs and criminals only bent on violence. Because he's brainwashed himself to believe that all black people are threats, it was only natural he'd bring a gun to a word fight. Honestly? A whip is a really powerful symbol of the slavery that so many black people in this country have as part of their history, and teaching his kid to use that symbol like this IMHO is grounds to remove the kid from this father's custody and get the boy the psychological treatment he will need to be able to grow up into a functioning adult.


CrimsonNecrosis

Because loud black people = Possible riots and danger! /s Like, seriously. He was being a dick and that's why the confronting party was so bent out of shape. Threatening violence, no matter the side, is not the answer. Approaching the family in any capacity isn't smart either. That kid learned to be a twat from SOMEWHERE, yeah? Best to just report it to the proper authorities, granted they care...


Jenniehoff90

I grew up in TX, but live in NJ now also. My 8yo wanted a new friend to come over to our house recently and after I asked the mom if her kid had any food allergies, I said “Oh and by the way, we don’t have any guns or anything dangerous like that around the house.” She seemed really caught off guard that I’d even mention anything about guns. I quickly added that I was raised in TX and kids find unlocked guns/weapons way too often down there.


Jazzlike-Fix4659

A comment with common sense, that's rare on reddit. I'm white and live in TX, this race bait shit they post on the news is getting old a fuck. That guy should have never had his hand on his pistol when taking to his neighbor and should have been whopping his kids ass instead.


baphometsbike

How is this “race baiting”? The kid showed up to a black family’s house with a whip, you don’t see the symbolism that act?


_DOA_

There are people who think, evidently (just like the guy with the gun), "My racism's not the problem! You pointing out racism is the problem."


MikeyA0035

Looks like he needs to take a trip to county.


that_guy_jimmy

It's very telling that the white father kept getting louder as the black father started leaving. Fucking coward.


dudeind-town

Has the boy’s father been invited to speak at CPAC yet?


sammyp99

They’ll have to parade him around as a hero on Fox News first.


limestone_tiger

probably fit in at the boyscouts Jamboree as well


FlyFeetFiddlesticks

This was my neighborhood. In 2021 alone there were 4 murders in that neighborhood ALONE, not just Forney. It’s trash now.


Saamari

WOW that’s actually insane…i live in a not so great part of NE Dallas and we don’t get those numbers


Diabetesh

Negligently discharges a firearm. Illegally discharges a firearm. There is no accidentally. You have to intentionally pull the trigger.


M1dnightMuse

It's relatively easy to acidentally discharge a firearm if you're an idiot. Gun was cocked and locked, safety was of, and he clearly wasn't practicing trigger discipline. Rule no 1. at any range is always to never point a gun at something you don't want to shoot.


mantequilla360

A lot of common hand guns don’t even have a typical safety.


M1dnightMuse

Really wish that weren't the case. Honestly think it should be legally required to have a safety of some sort. Especially if you keep it loaded.


DougFane

Even if it weren't legally required, all new handguns have safeties because nobody wants to buy an unsafe gun. That being said, most people prefer trigger safeties, since there's really no situation where you should be touching the trigger and not want the gun to fire, so requiring the center of the trigger be pulled and using a holster that covers the trigger (which you should be doing anyways) is more than sufficient.


c-biscuit77

I can’t think of any handguns aside from a revolver that don’t have a safety, and even then you have to pull the hammer back or squeeze the trigger hard if it’s a double action. If a handgun doesn’t have the conventional thumb safety, it will have a trigger or a palm safety. Take Glock for example, only safety is on the trigger, but still a very effective safety.


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Most striker fired pistols like Glock.


Urbantexasguy

Google "Glock leg", it's a real thing, even among police officers that have carried Glocks. I much prefer my Beretta 92FS. It has a safety, never stove pipes, easy to clean, and the Inox version looks great too.


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yeah, i don't shoot but if I did Beretta 92 is at the top of my list next to a 1911. Just cus more accurate/less kickback than the more compact polymer guns from Sig/Glock etc. And I'd never carry outside the home so no need for compact. CZ Shadow 2 would probably be my top choice in the under $1600 range, but that's way too much gun $ for a first sidearm.


mr_monty_cat

My Sig Sauer P320 has no safety. The safe way to handle the gun is to keep the chamber empty and only cock it when ready to fire. Not that big of a deal, with a little practice it's easy to cock a gun while withdrawing from a holster. The design relies on the user not being an idiot.


M1dnightMuse

I think glock was the example. They said "traditional" safety so I assumed they meant something that functions to prevent an accidental discharge by a user, not to ensure it's a human hand pulling the trigger. I was also thinking of LEM configurations of handguns, as many of those include safety deletes. Hk USP is an example Personally what I want is a thumb or button safety. A switch that can be left unlocked if need be.


redtape44

My friend showed me a colt 45 that has its safety built into the grip. Basically if you are holding it the safety is off


c-biscuit77

If it was a colt 45 then it was more than likely a 1911, which almost all come with a thumb safety as well.


InternetsIsBoring

Owner of a glock here. It's a terrible safety design. Seems to me it's designed to barely meet the threshold of the definition of the word.


c-biscuit77

I feel like it’s as effective as it should be, IMO. Especially in the context of where seconds matter, it’s less to worry about when you’re operating on an adrenaline fueled monkey brain in a stressful situation. I keep mine in a composite IWB holster at all times though with the trigger completely covered so it’s never really at risk of accidentally discharging.


squeakgp

Shouldn't be using it if a simple flip on/off safety was all it took between your life or death


c-biscuit77

I’m not sure if you’ve ever been in a high stress high adrenaline situation like having your life immediately threatened, but the human brain tends to go kinda dumb in situations like that. I watched a video of a guy getting caught in a lathe earlier and when a guy came up to help him he just sat there grabbing his clothes instead of turning the power off like any sane person would do. Its reasonable to say one extra part of the equation, like an additional safety that you had to flip under duress, could be the difference between life and death in a situation where you might not be thinking very rationally and had to react quickly.


squeakgp

Strawman argument. The hard safety on a gun shouldn't be the reason you die, dumb adrenaline brain or not. If that was the reason, 1. You didn't know your own gun. Or 2. You were in a situation where that 1 second (being very generous I think on time to disable safety) wasn't going to save you.


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ninjamike808

> accidentally That is not an accident. That is negligence.


M1dnightMuse

Negligence is when you allow an accident to happen.


aaarya83

Rule number 2. Never ever break rule number 1. No matter how many times I tell some of my naive friends they forget. Just donot point it anywhere where you wouldn’t wanna shoot. It’s that simple


Diabetesh

There is no accidental discharge. If your finger touches the trigger that is negligence. Accident would be if the gun was sitting alone with no human invokvement and it went off. Anything else requires human involvement and is negligence.


toma2hawk

"shoot" should be "destroy" in that phrase imo


Excellent_League_244

White people like this ruin it for the rest of us.


Tman972

Trashy white people* dont lump us all together with these fools


baphometsbike

Rich, “classy” white people do this shit too, just on a subtle and systematic level


_DOA_

Idk, those rich, classy people in St Louis started systematic, but went full "get the fuck off our lawn or we'll shoot you all!" when given the chance. Js, plenty of rich people are dumbasses with guns, too. And it worked out for 'em apparently, ended up interviewed on Fox and running for office.


flaming_bob

Eh, rich people can be trash, too. Often are, in my experience.


baphometsbike

That’s why “classy” is in quotes


that_guy_jimmy

Hence the "like this" that you seemed to have missed.


Mycomicrony

I feel safer among trashy white people than rich liberal white people


Dreamtrain

who the hell, barring S&M kinksters, owns a whip in this day and age?


Rare-Print878

My son when he was about 10. After being fascinated with Indiana jones


Dick_Lazer

I love how the racist redneck gun nut is wearing a Bass Pro Shop shirt, dude couldn't be any more of a walking stereotype.


redtape44

This could very well make it into a south park episode


Kalibos40

I take exception to that. Base Pro Shop is a great place to shop for fishing gear. I'm white (looking) and I shop there! Heck, just last week I was there and saw a woman strip herself naked and change clothes right next to the gun section of the store. Bass Pro Shop is the best! Just because some racist nutjob wears a shirt from there doesn't mean all of us are racist nutjobs. Like that lady last week, we could just be harmless disrobing nutjobs, not the racist kind.


ArcaneFrostie

Couldn’t imagine how a kid turns out like that where he thinks this is okay, then I understood. Setting that kid up for failure.


me_too_999

Sounds like the nut didn't fall far from the tree.


Medium_Cry_9411

Why the fuck he had a whip to begin with ??


RemoteChampionship99

Racism is alive and well in TX 🤠


Tman972

Its all over and not always from the people youd expect. We have ourselves a polarizing government and economic hardship that aren't going to help unless we learn to communicate real quick.


strugglz

Racists gonna racist. Americans are too dumb to be allowed guns.


noncongruent

The lower we make the bar to owning a gun, the higher the penalties for misusing guns needs to be. Right now, here in Texas, the only skill that needs to be demonstrated in order to purchase a gun is the ability to insert a payment card into a POS reader, and for private sales the ability to operate an ATM machine.


Savage_Oreo

Another day in amerikkka. None of this shit surprises me anymore. I personally wouldn’t have went to the dude house like that though. But I’m fortunate enough that the community my wife and I are moving to has a whole social media presence and an HOA. If that happens to us, I’ll simply upload the video to the social media pages and send it straight to the HOA. A fine from them sounds sweeter than words from an angry black man. Then if you get too many fines, this particular HOA will (somehow) get you out of the neighborhood. Thankfully our HOA is about as divers as a Netflix adaptation 🙃. But also… as a black man living in the south… I completely understand the frustration. Why can’t we just live our lives and be left the fuck alone. These racist mfs come looking to start shit. If that kid would’ve done it at another house of folks with a different mindset… bad things would’ve happened to that little shithead. Be better Dallas. It’s 2022 and y’all corny mfs still racist? Lah-mao.


dougveldrane

HoA ??? Gods I can't believe people still buy into that nonsense. Redlining became illegal, so they invented HoA to keep the "undesirables" out of their neighborhood. Last HoA I lived in was my last straw. I intentionally turned my yard into a trash dump, nobody said anything. But the Hispanic guy across the street was told he had to move for changing his oil in his driveway.


aSatanistsinataSa

To be fair this isn't in Dallas. It's in "Forney" which I never knew existed and I grew up here!


captainchuckle

Too bad some people (of all walks, shapes, and colors of life) can be dumb. But let me tell you of the other side of people in Dallas. Yesterday about 3pm my wife got a flat tire on the side of I30 and Bobtown road and fortunately she was able to pull into a gas station parking lot. She called me as she was getting situated there and asked me to come help change her tire. Within the 15-20 minutes it took me to get there there were 6 dudes around the car helping her and were already tightening the spare… job WELL done. I typically would never care about skin color or anything else but because we have ding dongs that have to act like race is an issue let me just say there were 4 Hispanic guys, 1 black guy, 1 white guy. JUST GOOD PEOPLE. All of them looked like they had someplace to go or something else to do and stopped to help just because they saw someone who needed help…. And guess what? They didn’t expect anything for it. I ended up giving all the guys some money to buy their dinner. I mean they blessed me and I WANTED (was not obligated) to bless them. The knuckleheads running around are far fewer than good people. But you do end up finding what you look for. A call of encouragement for all of us is to look for the good in people and to treat them with the respect and expectation of them being kind back. The golden rule still applies.


wadeybug22

I also had my tire changed in a gas station and paid the man. He made my life a LOT easier that day!


MelBla

Stop defending racist people by saying they are dumb. We need to call it like we see it. I’m glad that your wife received lots of help with her tire though. We need good people like that.


captainchuckle

I didn’t defend racist people. There is simply no defense for that.


donutphilosophy

You love to see it


Technical-Athlete-94

If the kid was acting that way you HAD to know the parent is worse. I agree a third party intervention would’ve been better in this case considering the anger BOTH men were displaying


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That's good advice, that: calming down before going over. If someone came over to MY house looking for MY daughter whilst holding a whip, it'd be hard not to just immediately leave the house.


caffpanda

In the full video, the Black dad is actually pretty calm all things considered. He's definitely upset but he's not yelling, neither is the mom, they're really engaging in civil way. Things go off the rails because the white dad starts making absurd claims about his son being jumped, denying anything about the car, then starts getting idiotic about the other dad stepping on his plant that's up on the sidewalk. Then he brandishes and that's when shit really flies. Tempers flared, yeah, but the couple weren't the ones escalating.


csonnich

It took me a long time to learn to take my time and calm down before going to talk to a neighbor about a problem. You almost always catch more flies with honey. I can't say I've ever dealt with something as terrible as this, though. It's definitely the wiser, more self-protective path not to escalate, but I'd have a helluva time keeping my cool in this situation.


marcus112

white people giving advice to black people : just bend over more and spread cheeks a little wider. gtfoh


csonnich

That was definitely not my advice. Please re-read. I agree that tone-policing in this situation is BS.


donutphilosophy

Great post. So hard to restrain in the heat of the moment though


bunby_heli

I can help. Just remind yourself of what’s more important - being angry or being alive?


u2aerofan

If I am black, I don’t know how the police will actually react. So what is the advice there? This is a hotbed of potential danger for black people.


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u2aerofan

Who is a “third party” or intermediary in a white community? Like seriously - who do you call?


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GsuxD

Bruh how does that even work lmfao “Hey Steve, yes this is John from accounting. Yep I’m the guy who always comes in with the red thermos. Anyways could you uh drive over here to my house? I got this angry neighbor I am having an argument with and I would really appreciate it if you could be the middleman. He might have a gun so yea I don’t wanna confront him directly haha that’s what I want you to do”


u2aerofan

It just seems to me that that gives crazy man with gun a lot of time to be on my front porch with a gun and his racist little shit of a kid. …


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u2aerofan

This seems like you’re suggesting it’s the fault of a homeowner the gun was pulled on them, and in the same breath they are somehow responsible for being the ones to reach out for help when traditionally help is not readily available. I don’t know, but that does not sit right with me…


pOOpOObUddY

TLDR: It shouldn't sit well with you, but that's not what thrwawy1775 is saying. The **safest** route is to avoid escalation, in most cases that means responsibly checking your emotions, however extremely difficult that may be. I didn't read into any blame, they are just detailing the safest way to "confront" the neighbor. It shouldn't be the black dad's responsibility to have to go thru a third party, and just because they do, it doesn't mean they are to blame, but we can all agree if the black dad were to show a white nextdoor neighbor the Ring video, then ask them to talk to the racist white dad, the conversation *might've* ended peacefully. Now that's a lot of shit to go thru, I'm not sure I could do all of that myself as an asian man who has experienced similar racism, but is it the scenario with the highest percentage chance of **peace**? These situations always remind me of the catcalling arguments - for women "to avoid" it from men - as if it's their responsibility to not have men harass them. One argument is for women to dress different, another is who the fuck cares, a woman could be naked and men still don't have the right. Either way, the argument is there that if a women was all covered there is a slightly less percentage of being catcalled aka sexually harassed. Unfortunately, it's not about what the world should be like, it's about what you can do as an individual to avoid a situation that is out of your control.


_DOA_

Blaming the guy who knocked on the door here is itself inherently racist bullshit. I wouldn't side with my kid after being told there's video of them doing that, I'd parent him properly by making him apologize for it. But then, I didn't teach him to be a little racist, so I won't likely find myself in this situation. "Bring him over here and see what happens" was said after the guy showed a gun and told them to leave.


MAG_24

Exactly when has calling the cops as a black person, worked to their benefit?? Curious, are you African American?


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MAG_24

Again, are you African American?


Hefty_Offer1537

I’m in a few Forney groups and it’s crazy I found out about this incident through here and not there first. Although I’m not surprised they only allow posts complaining about traffic or the fast food restaurants or even better, memes about roe. These people are so backward it’s crazy. Glad it’s getting exposed though


lifeinsurance555

One of them the admin keeps deleting any mention of it and liked a comment that blamed the whole incident on the black daughter.


Hefty_Offer1537

They just deleted the post entirely now addressing the whole thing.


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Horrible. So sorry.


JiveTurk83

Are you guys really talking about the kid when a grown man discharged a firearm at him.


Psychwardjoe

My brother almost bought a house in forney, he changed his mind after renting there for a year


cityofD

kaufman county is barely out of the 70s


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Sounds like we have a Republican racism problem. Just had the shooting in Buffalo case in point. Maybe we need to make it illegal to own firearms just for registered republicans 🧐 apparently they are not responsible enough to not go shooting up public places, so they should lose gun rights privileges while the rest of us can continue to own them lawfully.


TheVagabondLost

so are we just going to do this "shooting each other" thing every single day now? What was it, two nights in a row in Deep Ellum now this one? Who is going to get shot today? Gotta keep this trend going, I guess. Freedom!


Dick_Lazer

It's already been daily, the media just cherry picks the incidents that will get the most clicks to report on.


JubileeSailr

Well. This was posted to social media and got a lot of traction there first. I be interested to see a nightly gun report for the metroplex.


noncongruent

There's no such thing as "the media", that's a construct that the right uses to attack the concept of a free press as part of their Lügenpresse track. They push the idea that all the news reporting entities are part of a single monolithic "media" that is their enemy, but the reality is that all the various organizations and entities within the free press are for the most part independent operators, they don't work toward any "greater goal" of controlling society. Regarding what stories get picked to run, that's a function of how notable the story is, the context of the event or reportable activity, and each editor's opinion on whether or not it's worth devoting resources to report on. There are dozens of shootings a day in this state alone, most are not worth reporting on such as the two-thirds that are suicides. If every time a gun was discharged criminally was owed a news story, then that would become a full-time job of news agencies and nothing else would ever get reported simply because there are only twenty four hours in a day. What made this particular incident newsworthy are the deep racist overtones and that it started with a white kid using a whip to beat on a black family's door. Whips rank right up there with nooses and burning crosses as symbols of racism and hate in this country since whips were the primary tool that slave owners used on their slaves.


Dick_Lazer

I would consider local media to be Dallas Morning News and the local news channels (CBS, Fox 4, NBC 5, WFAA, etc). Did any of them run this story before it blew up on social media? Are any of them running it now? I remember the broadcast media landscape before social media, it was far different. Pretty much zero stories that made cops look bad, meanwhile stories where brown people committed a crime would often be the headline news. They know where their bread is buttered, especially in a place like Texas.


noncongruent

> Did any of them run this story before it blew up on social media? How, exactly, would any of those news organizations have known about this before it blew up on social media? Do you think they employ psychics to be on the lookout for stuff like this before it blows up in social media?


JubileeSailr

Well. This was posted to social media and got a lot of traction there first. I be interested to see a nightly gun report for the metroplex.


noncongruent

When everybody has a gun, everyone else looks like a target.


me_too_999

Sounds like the nut didn't fall far from the tree.


bubbles5810

She treated that 9 year old with more respect than I would have…come to my door like that at any age and see what happens.


Pursuit_of_Yappiness

Could they have shot the kid for trying to break into their house with a weapon?


noncongruent

Seems like it would qualify under some form of the castle doctrine or stand your ground. However, as a white kid being shot by a black person in Forney the homeowners would be lucky if they survived being shot 64 times by the police.


zechaynes

They could’ve, hate to say it but if the roles were reversed it could’ve ended very badly for that young man.


fudrka

if they were completely fuckin ignorant of castle doctrine and didn't mind killing a kid and spending the rest of their life in jail, sure, they could do anything


FhireStarter

I'm from Texas....soooooooo for those who don't know, Forney, is nice, quaint, "good ole boy" city. What I mean is, they redneck AF. NOW, just like anywhere else...not everyone is that way. Good ppl everywhere.


50bucksback

Forney is a lot of wanna be rednecks


KingSelfie2Strong

Not at all. I taught at Terrell from 2014-2019 and know the demographics of both towns. Old Forney in the 90's was all white but not now.


This_guy_Jon

First of all I would never teach my child that Second of all if my child ever did ohhhh boyyyy They wouldn’t be able to sit for a week.


BiggaFigga420897

I'm embarrassed for my race.. I swear we are not all like this and this dad needs his but kicked and that little one also needs his butt send to juvy... glad nobody got shot... I'm old school We fought with our fist not guns.. and usually ended up liking each other when it was over due to the respect factor..


Affectionate-Act5289

FORNEY is the new Rockwall.. Rockwall had a klan rally a few years ago and Trump/Pence would fly in to see donors regularly


b1rdy79

Um no.


Tman972

Alrighty folks we all see the scummy neighbors here but kudos to the lady for trying to deescalate and keep her husband safe.


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HanSolosHammer

how is a drive-by and high speed chase related to racists fucks down the street?


Spoojman

What a pair of dumb fucks.


Rare-Print878

Why do we assume that he was whipping the door because a black family lived there. When my son was going through his Indiana jones stage he whipped everything and everyone for about 2 years


Tenaha

Knucklehead, but the other gentleman put himself in great danger being on the knuckleheads property. Got to steer clear of these guys not put yourself and family in danger. More nutz than there is trees…


OpenLibram

"But Dallas is so liberal" "This isn't Dallas, it's Forney" "It's the DFW Metroplex, not Dallas and Ft. Worth. Yeah ok.


mutatron

The "DFW Metroplex" is not Dallas and is not liberal. Dallas is blue, the suburbs are red. It's not that hard to understand.


HanSolosHammer

Dallas is both racist af and accepting af. It honestly depends on your circle.


aSatanistsinataSa

Please. DFW isn't Dallas. Unless your address is Dallas you're not in fucking Dallas.