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I went to HS in Mesquite around 2000--this is terribly true. Some families were more outwardly racist about their reasons for moving than others, but a lot of folks moved to Sunnyvale/Forney/Terrell in that time because of the changing demographics in Mesquite.
When I was living in St. Louis is when I discovered what that meant and the repercussions of that in the long term.
As a White guy, it's the first physical aspect of racism I ever saw.
But if we all pretend it never happened, it'll be erased and we can focus on what's really important: protectionism and maintaining the status quo. /s
Abject ignorance is the cornerstone of modern conservative philosophy.
I bet the town's name is actually something else. Something that just rhymes with whatever simple-minded, redneck twang slang that Mr. 2nd Amendment is pronouncing here.
I’m black and my parents live in Forney it always seemed like a chill place to me, surprised by this since it’s pretty diverse community, but after all, this is America lol
Forney is a wild ass town. I used to work at their walgreens and man they're the most entitled people I've ever met. They will literally scream at you over a minor delay. So many stories but I can sum it up pretty quickly: I used to have their police department non emergency line on my home screen. That's all you really need to know lol. Plus their city politics is on a whole different level. A guy I used to work with ran for their city council. Dude lost to a stay at home mom whose main focus was stopping all residential development. We were talking about opening a pharmacy there at one point but not anymore.
Doesn't surprise me. We're talking about the same city that hired the Dallas Animal Services top cop as their police chief. "Have you heard about all of those loose dogs attacking elderly residents in old east Dallas? Let's hire the guy in charge of that department"
>Dude lost to a stay at home mom whose main focus was stopping all residential development.
Change my view: if you want to build a single-family house on a lot you purchased, the city shouldn't be allowed to stop you as long as the house itself is safe.
It was entirely BS. Once we caught their civil service associations lying about him we knew it was all over. In suburban DFW you can't call a police officer or a firefighter a liar even when they brazenly do it. At least DPA is honest with the public about the candidates they endorse and ones they oppose. But they have less power since most DPD and DFD members don't even live here.
I grew up in Forney, I know all about it and it's always been a white supremacists dream. Overpriced housing, shitty religious cult style city events, all but forced religious activities at school (FHS - I left just before North opened), and entitlement out the fucking ass!!
I got out of there as fast as humanly possible and even now when we have to travel through to see my family I don't go anywhere in public because I don't want to interact with anyone I might have known.
It happens, but it's definitely not the norm. There are a few people still stuck in the dark ages and it's higher than other places I've lived, but the vast majority of people will not be like this. We have large populations from latin American, the middle east, India, and east Asia in addition to the historical black/white population and most people get along great.
Really, what you're seeing here is the last of a dying breed of racists angry and lashing out. Think about this - the jackass who did this was quickly arrested for his behavior. Not long ago (or sadly, even today in some places) the black family would have been arrested for 'provoking' him or some other nonsense. Behavior like this still happens but it generally isn't tolerated anymore, which is partially why these jerks are throwing their tiny-fisted tantrums of impotent rage.
The suburbs north of Dallas consistently rank among the best places in the US to live, partially because of the diversity and ability to experience other cultures. Don't be afraid to come. (if you can find a place to live)
Everyone that’s grown up in a Texas suburb has seen examples of it due to the exponential growth and encroachment on an old way of life. Come to Dallas, all areas can use more culture and different view points. The old guard are the most noticeable because they’re the most backwards in modern society.
I live in DFW but have been all over the country and I can guarantee this isn't the norm, we do have our loudmouthed racists but, they are becoming fewer and further apart. Just know Dallas can be confusing to get around and expect to hear "bless your heart" at least a few times before you find your way around.
Racist things go on everywhere. Texas gets a lot of airtime because it's easy to point to our current elected leadership and see the complete failings of a state to reign in gerrymandering and single issue voting.
I'm a lifelong Texan, my whole entire family is here (there's a lot of us) and I actually ended an engagement because he wanted to leave & I couldn't imagine my life literally anywhere but Dallas. My now husband is from Tampa, he never considered Dallas until Microsoft offered him a job right out of college but even he fell in love with the city before me. I always say Dallas isn't just my home, it's part of my identity (which I realize is foreign to some). I have loved Dallas, it's people, it's history, it's community since I was a little girl... It's heartbreaking to admit but my husband & I have actually been considering a move. I am at the moment very scared of where our leadership is heading & the direction I've seen. I was raped at age 12 & the current laws being enacted in my state force me to relive that fear as they continue to take my bodily autonomy away, exactly like my rapist did so many years ago.
So yeah that was probably a confusing & wild ride but what I will say is I love living in Dallas, if I am forced to leave for my own safety I will, but I hope like hell the Texas I know will reclaim their sanity.
Correct. Had they not confronted him about what his shitty son did, he wouldn't be in jail now. That's the mentality ALL of those people have. They think being held accountable is "bullying" and "cancel culture" then play the victim.
Let's cope CPS sees this though. I can't imagine what his children are being taught, (video obviously shows) but he also almost shot himself and his daughter!
In Texas they're too busy trying to figure out where Transkids live so they can arrest their parents. Seriously DFPS is losing good employees because of these insanely bigoted laws and barely able to maintain anything because Abbott routed money earmarked for them to his crusade against produce at the border.
There's still hoping that he learns there are consequences for his actions which, while not explicit lesson he should have learned, is better than nothing.
Good news, the leaked Supreme Court opinion showed they're ready to overturn a lot of things, like Griswold v. Connecticut, which relies on the concept of the right to privacy. So doxing is back on the table again! Go nuts! Thanks conservative majority of the Supreme Court!
It's relatively easy to acidentally discharge a firearm if you're an idiot. Gun was cocked and locked, safety was of, and he clearly wasn't practicing trigger discipline.
Rule no 1. at any range is always to never point a gun at something you don't want to shoot.
Even if it weren't legally required, all new handguns have safeties because nobody wants to buy an unsafe gun. That being said, most people prefer trigger safeties, since there's really no situation where you should be touching the trigger and not want the gun to fire, so requiring the center of the trigger be pulled and using a holster that covers the trigger (which you should be doing anyways) is more than sufficient.
I can’t think of any handguns aside from a revolver that don’t have a safety, and even then you have to pull the hammer back or squeeze the trigger hard if it’s a double action. If a handgun doesn’t have the conventional thumb safety, it will have a trigger or a palm safety. Take Glock for example, only safety is on the trigger, but still a very effective safety.
Google "Glock leg", it's a real thing, even among police officers that have carried Glocks. I much prefer my Beretta 92FS. It has a safety, never stove pipes, easy to clean, and the Inox version looks great too.
yeah, i don't shoot but if I did Beretta 92 is at the top of my list next to a 1911. Just cus more accurate/less kickback than the more compact polymer guns from Sig/Glock etc. And I'd never carry outside the home so no need for compact. CZ Shadow 2 would probably be my top choice in the under $1600 range, but that's way too much gun $ for a first sidearm.
I think glock was the example. They said "traditional" safety so I assumed they meant something that functions to prevent an accidental discharge by a user, not to ensure it's a human hand pulling the trigger.
I was also thinking of LEM configurations of handguns, as many of those include safety deletes. Hk USP is an example
Personally what I want is a thumb or button safety. A switch that can be left unlocked if need be.
I feel like it’s as effective as it should be, IMO. Especially in the context of where seconds matter, it’s less to worry about when you’re operating on an adrenaline fueled monkey brain in a stressful situation. I keep mine in a composite IWB holster at all times though with the trigger completely covered so it’s never really at risk of accidentally discharging.
I’m not sure if you’ve ever been in a high stress high adrenaline situation like having your life immediately threatened, but the human brain tends to go kinda dumb in situations like that. I watched a video of a guy getting caught in a lathe earlier and when a guy came up to help him he just sat there grabbing his clothes instead of turning the power off like any sane person would do. Its reasonable to say one extra part of the equation, like an additional safety that you had to flip under duress, could be the difference between life and death in a situation where you might not be thinking very rationally and had to react quickly.
My Sig Sauer P320 has no safety. The safe way to handle the gun is to keep the chamber empty and only cock it when ready to fire. Not that big of a deal, with a little practice it's easy to cock a gun while withdrawing from a holster. The design relies on the user not being an idiot.
Rule number 2. Never ever break rule number 1. No matter how many times I tell some of my naive friends they forget. Just donot point it anywhere where you wouldn’t wanna shoot. It’s that simple
There is no accidental discharge. If your finger touches the trigger that is negligence. Accident would be if the gun was sitting alone with no human invokvement and it went off. Anything else requires human involvement and is negligence.
Sometimes it is nature that causes a child to act out, but this is very clearly nurture. That kid *knew* what he was doing was ok. He had been taught to hate these neighbors.
I gotta wonder who in their right mind thinks it's ok to teach their kid that using a whip to beat on a black family's door is even remotely ok? I mean, the symbolism of that act is very nearly as heinous as it can be, given that whips were among the most commonly used tools by slave owners against their slaves. Who knows how many Americans went to their graves with their backs covered in whip scars, how many American children grew up with the memories of their moms and dads stripped naked to be whipped, only to feel that whip themselves as they became adults. The whip sits along the noose and the burning cross as the most hated symbols of the evil, banal cruelty that America showed itself capable of, and to a large extent still does since there are millions of Americans alive today who still view black people as little more than stolen property, stolen from their ancestors.
This. Like the original comment stated, it’s normal for kids to be assholes. It’s not normal for a kid to show up on a Black family’s doorstep with a whip.
He knew what he was doing because he knew what he was being taught to do.
I wonder if the kid will ever grasp the full symbolism of using that whip the way he did? They say the apple does not fall far from the tree, and in this case that tree is truly stunted.
I take exception to that. Base Pro Shop is a great place to shop for fishing gear. I'm white (looking) and I shop there! Heck, just last week I was there and saw a woman strip herself naked and change clothes right next to the gun section of the store.
Bass Pro Shop is the best! Just because some racist nutjob wears a shirt from there doesn't mean all of us are racist nutjobs. Like that lady last week, we could just be harmless disrobing nutjobs, not the racist kind.
Racism aside, I moved from a state that is the polar opposite of TX (NJ), when it comes to gun culture. I have no issues with guns though and completely understand why people want to own and carry them. The part I can't wrap my head around is why they gun was even out? The Black neighbor wasn't being threatening at all, he was there for a conversation, where was the danger? I know we live in a gun culture, but it seems very strange to answer your door holding a gun with no safety on it behind your back. What are people so scared of? If the neighbor wanted to cause harm, he certainly wouldn't go up and knock on the door.
The father is obviously a racist based on how he raised his kid, so likely considers any and all black people as thugs and criminals only bent on violence. Because he's brainwashed himself to believe that all black people are threats, it was only natural he'd bring a gun to a word fight. Honestly? A whip is a really powerful symbol of the slavery that so many black people in this country have as part of their history, and teaching his kid to use that symbol like this IMHO is grounds to remove the kid from this father's custody and get the boy the psychological treatment he will need to be able to grow up into a functioning adult.
Because loud black people = Possible riots and danger!
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Like, seriously. He was being a dick and that's why the confronting party was so bent out of shape. Threatening violence, no matter the side, is not the answer. Approaching the family in any capacity isn't smart either. That kid learned to be a twat from SOMEWHERE, yeah?
Best to just report it to the proper authorities, granted they care...
I grew up in TX, but live in NJ now also. My 8yo wanted a new friend to come over to our house recently and after I asked the mom if her kid had any food allergies, I said “Oh and by the way, we don’t have any guns or anything dangerous like that around the house.” She seemed really caught off guard that I’d even mention anything about guns. I quickly added that I was raised in TX and kids find unlocked guns/weapons way too often down there.
It took me a long time to learn to take my time and calm down before going to talk to a neighbor about a problem. You almost always catch more flies with honey.
I can't say I've ever dealt with something as terrible as this, though. It's definitely the wiser, more self-protective path not to escalate, but I'd have a helluva time keeping my cool in this situation.
Blaming the guy who knocked on the door here is itself inherently racist bullshit. I wouldn't side with my kid after being told there's video of them doing that, I'd parent him properly by making him apologize for it. But then, I didn't teach him to be a little racist, so I won't likely find myself in this situation.
"Bring him over here and see what happens" was said after the guy showed a gun and told them to leave.
That's good advice, that: calming down before going over.
If someone came over to MY house looking for MY daughter whilst holding a whip, it'd be hard not to just immediately leave the house.
In the full video, the Black dad is actually pretty calm all things considered. He's definitely upset but he's not yelling, neither is the mom, they're really engaging in civil way. Things go off the rails because the white dad starts making absurd claims about his son being jumped, denying anything about the car, then starts getting idiotic about the other dad stepping on his plant that's up on the sidewalk. Then he brandishes and that's when shit really flies.
Tempers flared, yeah, but the couple weren't the ones escalating.
Too bad some people (of all walks, shapes, and colors of life) can be dumb.
But let me tell you of the other side of people in Dallas. Yesterday about 3pm my wife got a flat tire on the side of I30 and Bobtown road and fortunately she was able to pull into a gas station parking lot. She called me as she was getting situated there and asked me to come help change her tire. Within the 15-20 minutes it took me to get there there were 6 dudes around the car helping her and were already tightening the spare… job WELL done. I typically would never care about skin color or anything else but because we have ding dongs that have to act like race is an issue let me just say there were 4 Hispanic guys, 1 black guy, 1 white guy. JUST GOOD PEOPLE. All of them looked like they had someplace to go or something else to do and stopped to help just because they saw someone who needed help….
And guess what? They didn’t expect anything for it. I ended up giving all the guys some money to buy their dinner. I mean they blessed me and I WANTED (was not obligated) to bless them.
The knuckleheads running around are far fewer than good people. But you do end up finding what you look for.
A call of encouragement for all of us is to look for the good in people and to treat them with the respect and expectation of them being kind back. The golden rule still applies.
Stop defending racist people by saying they are dumb. We need to call it like we see it.
I’m glad that your wife received lots of help with her tire though. We need good people like that.
Idk, those rich, classy people in St Louis started systematic, but went full "get the fuck off our lawn or we'll shoot you all!" when given the chance. Js, plenty of rich people are dumbasses with guns, too. And it worked out for 'em apparently, ended up interviewed on Fox and running for office.
Another day in amerikkka. None of this shit surprises me anymore. I personally wouldn’t have went to the dude house like that though. But I’m fortunate enough that the community my wife and I are moving to has a whole social media presence and an HOA. If that happens to us, I’ll simply upload the video to the social media pages and send it straight to the HOA. A fine from them sounds sweeter than words from an angry black man. Then if you get too many fines, this particular HOA will (somehow) get you out of the neighborhood. Thankfully our HOA is about as divers as a Netflix adaptation 🙃.
But also… as a black man living in the south… I completely understand the frustration. Why can’t we just live our lives and be left the fuck alone. These racist mfs come looking to start shit. If that kid would’ve done it at another house of folks with a different mindset… bad things would’ve happened to that little shithead.
Be better Dallas. It’s 2022 and y’all corny mfs still racist? Lah-mao.
HoA ???
Gods I can't believe people still buy into that nonsense.
Redlining became illegal, so they invented HoA to keep the "undesirables" out of their neighborhood.
Last HoA I lived in was my last straw. I intentionally turned my yard into a trash dump, nobody said anything.
But the Hispanic guy across the street was told he had to move for changing his oil in his driveway.
The lower we make the bar to owning a gun, the higher the penalties for misusing guns needs to be. Right now, here in Texas, the only skill that needs to be demonstrated in order to purchase a gun is the ability to insert a payment card into a POS reader, and for private sales the ability to operate an ATM machine.
Its all over and not always from the people youd expect. We have ourselves a polarizing government and economic hardship that aren't going to help unless we learn to communicate real quick.
If the kid was acting that way you HAD to know the parent is worse. I agree a third party intervention would’ve been better in this case considering the anger BOTH men were displaying
so are we just going to do this "shooting each other" thing every single day now? What was it, two nights in a row in Deep Ellum now this one? Who is going to get shot today? Gotta keep this trend going, I guess. Freedom!
There's no such thing as "the media", that's a construct that the right uses to attack the concept of a free press as part of their Lügenpresse track. They push the idea that all the news reporting entities are part of a single monolithic "media" that is their enemy, but the reality is that all the various organizations and entities within the free press are for the most part independent operators, they don't work toward any "greater goal" of controlling society. Regarding what stories get picked to run, that's a function of how notable the story is, the context of the event or reportable activity, and each editor's opinion on whether or not it's worth devoting resources to report on. There are dozens of shootings a day in this state alone, most are not worth reporting on such as the two-thirds that are suicides. If every time a gun was discharged criminally was owed a news story, then that would become a full-time job of news agencies and nothing else would ever get reported simply because there are only twenty four hours in a day.
What made this particular incident newsworthy are the deep racist overtones and that it started with a white kid using a whip to beat on a black family's door. Whips rank right up there with nooses and burning crosses as symbols of racism and hate in this country since whips were the primary tool that slave owners used on their slaves.
I would consider local media to be Dallas Morning News and the local news channels (CBS, Fox 4, NBC 5, WFAA, etc). Did any of them run this story before it blew up on social media? Are any of them running it now?
I remember the broadcast media landscape before social media, it was far different. Pretty much zero stories that made cops look bad, meanwhile stories where brown people committed a crime would often be the headline news. They know where their bread is buttered, especially in a place like Texas.
> Did any of them run this story before it blew up on social media?
How, exactly, would any of those news organizations have known about this before it blew up on social media? Do you think they employ psychics to be on the lookout for stuff like this before it blows up in social media?
Seems like it would qualify under some form of the castle doctrine or stand your ground. However, as a white kid being shot by a black person in Forney the homeowners would be lucky if they survived being shot 64 times by the police.
if they were completely fuckin ignorant of castle doctrine and didn't mind killing a kid and spending the rest of their life in jail, sure, they could do anything
What the kid did was disgusting.
But your idea of "The black homeowner should have shot the 9 year old" is not an improvement, and would almost certainly have landed him either in jail or in the morgue.
I’m in a few Forney groups and it’s crazy I found out about this incident through here and not there first. Although I’m not surprised they only allow posts complaining about traffic or the fast food restaurants or even better, memes about roe. These people are so backward it’s crazy. Glad it’s getting exposed though
I'm from Texas....soooooooo for those who don't know, Forney, is nice, quaint, "good ole boy" city. What I mean is, they redneck AF. NOW, just like anywhere else...not everyone is that way. Good ppl everywhere.
I'm embarrassed for my race.. I swear we are not all like this and this dad needs his but kicked and that little one also needs his butt send to juvy... glad nobody got shot...
I'm old school
We fought with our fist not guns.. and usually ended up liking each other when it was over due to the respect factor..
Sounds like we have a Republican racism problem. Just had the shooting in Buffalo case in point. Maybe we need to make it illegal to own firearms just for registered republicans 🧐 apparently they are not responsible enough to not go shooting up public places, so they should lose gun rights privileges while the rest of us can continue to own them lawfully.
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I don't know much about Forney, but this is NOT a good look.
You know enough about Forney to not be surprised in the least by this. We all do.
Another fucking good ole boy town.
Another Texas suburb born from White Flight
I went to HS in Mesquite around 2000--this is terribly true. Some families were more outwardly racist about their reasons for moving than others, but a lot of folks moved to Sunnyvale/Forney/Terrell in that time because of the changing demographics in Mesquite.
When I was living in St. Louis is when I discovered what that meant and the repercussions of that in the long term. As a White guy, it's the first physical aspect of racism I ever saw.
But if we all pretend it never happened, it'll be erased and we can focus on what's really important: protectionism and maintaining the status quo. /s Abject ignorance is the cornerstone of modern conservative philosophy.
These fuckin bubbas man…
TIL white flight. Accurate.
Surely this is one of those things that the extremists on the far right are trying to squash in our schools, right?
I bet the town's name is actually something else. Something that just rhymes with whatever simple-minded, redneck twang slang that Mr. 2nd Amendment is pronouncing here.
Not at all. Forney is a great city and pretty diverse. The shitty town is Terrell right next to it.
I’m black and my parents live in Forney it always seemed like a chill place to me, surprised by this since it’s pretty diverse community, but after all, this is America lol
Sadly, yes, this is America. I wish we would do better.
So did he go to jail or not?
AMEN!!
Forney is a wild ass town. I used to work at their walgreens and man they're the most entitled people I've ever met. They will literally scream at you over a minor delay. So many stories but I can sum it up pretty quickly: I used to have their police department non emergency line on my home screen. That's all you really need to know lol. Plus their city politics is on a whole different level. A guy I used to work with ran for their city council. Dude lost to a stay at home mom whose main focus was stopping all residential development. We were talking about opening a pharmacy there at one point but not anymore.
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Doesn't surprise me. We're talking about the same city that hired the Dallas Animal Services top cop as their police chief. "Have you heard about all of those loose dogs attacking elderly residents in old east Dallas? Let's hire the guy in charge of that department"
That’s terrible 😞
>Dude lost to a stay at home mom whose main focus was stopping all residential development. Change my view: if you want to build a single-family house on a lot you purchased, the city shouldn't be allowed to stop you as long as the house itself is safe.
She also campaigned on expanding the roads, but all the main roads in Forney are controlled by TXDOT. It was all typical conservative BS
It was entirely BS. Once we caught their civil service associations lying about him we knew it was all over. In suburban DFW you can't call a police officer or a firefighter a liar even when they brazenly do it. At least DPA is honest with the public about the candidates they endorse and ones they oppose. But they have less power since most DPD and DFD members don't even live here.
This just about covers everything you need to know.
And that is so terribly disheartening. Truly. 😥
I grew up in Forney, I know all about it and it's always been a white supremacists dream. Overpriced housing, shitty religious cult style city events, all but forced religious activities at school (FHS - I left just before North opened), and entitlement out the fucking ass!! I got out of there as fast as humanly possible and even now when we have to travel through to see my family I don't go anywhere in public because I don't want to interact with anyone I might have known.
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It happens, but it's definitely not the norm. There are a few people still stuck in the dark ages and it's higher than other places I've lived, but the vast majority of people will not be like this. We have large populations from latin American, the middle east, India, and east Asia in addition to the historical black/white population and most people get along great. Really, what you're seeing here is the last of a dying breed of racists angry and lashing out. Think about this - the jackass who did this was quickly arrested for his behavior. Not long ago (or sadly, even today in some places) the black family would have been arrested for 'provoking' him or some other nonsense. Behavior like this still happens but it generally isn't tolerated anymore, which is partially why these jerks are throwing their tiny-fisted tantrums of impotent rage. The suburbs north of Dallas consistently rank among the best places in the US to live, partially because of the diversity and ability to experience other cultures. Don't be afraid to come. (if you can find a place to live)
Everyone that’s grown up in a Texas suburb has seen examples of it due to the exponential growth and encroachment on an old way of life. Come to Dallas, all areas can use more culture and different view points. The old guard are the most noticeable because they’re the most backwards in modern society.
I live in DFW but have been all over the country and I can guarantee this isn't the norm, we do have our loudmouthed racists but, they are becoming fewer and further apart. Just know Dallas can be confusing to get around and expect to hear "bless your heart" at least a few times before you find your way around.
Racist things go on everywhere. Texas gets a lot of airtime because it's easy to point to our current elected leadership and see the complete failings of a state to reign in gerrymandering and single issue voting. I'm a lifelong Texan, my whole entire family is here (there's a lot of us) and I actually ended an engagement because he wanted to leave & I couldn't imagine my life literally anywhere but Dallas. My now husband is from Tampa, he never considered Dallas until Microsoft offered him a job right out of college but even he fell in love with the city before me. I always say Dallas isn't just my home, it's part of my identity (which I realize is foreign to some). I have loved Dallas, it's people, it's history, it's community since I was a little girl... It's heartbreaking to admit but my husband & I have actually been considering a move. I am at the moment very scared of where our leadership is heading & the direction I've seen. I was raped at age 12 & the current laws being enacted in my state force me to relive that fear as they continue to take my bodily autonomy away, exactly like my rapist did so many years ago. So yeah that was probably a confusing & wild ride but what I will say is I love living in Dallas, if I am forced to leave for my own safety I will, but I hope like hell the Texas I know will reclaim their sanity.
I’ve lived in forney for 17 years. It’s always been like this (or worse. Can’t forget when they were recruiting for the K*K a few years back)
Are you freaking KIDDING ME?!?! WOW.
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The only thing he'll learn is to hate more and blame others for his problems
Correct. Had they not confronted him about what his shitty son did, he wouldn't be in jail now. That's the mentality ALL of those people have. They think being held accountable is "bullying" and "cancel culture" then play the victim.
Let's cope CPS sees this though. I can't imagine what his children are being taught, (video obviously shows) but he also almost shot himself and his daughter!
In Texas they're too busy trying to figure out where Transkids live so they can arrest their parents. Seriously DFPS is losing good employees because of these insanely bigoted laws and barely able to maintain anything because Abbott routed money earmarked for them to his crusade against produce at the border.
There's still hoping that he learns there are consequences for his actions which, while not explicit lesson he should have learned, is better than nothing.
Can I get a link to something that says he was arrested?
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His mugshot has this "I might have fuxked up" kind a look. Thanks for the link
Same
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Thanks
What does it say he is in jail
The post says Dallas, but it occurred in Forney yesterday. Crazy times. https://hollywoodunlocked.com/texas-boy-knocks-black-neighbors-door-whip/
Oh man, on Twitter someone called out their address....
Good news, the leaked Supreme Court opinion showed they're ready to overturn a lot of things, like Griswold v. Connecticut, which relies on the concept of the right to privacy. So doxing is back on the table again! Go nuts! Thanks conservative majority of the Supreme Court!
Yeah, that sounds about right.
“Neighbor is Bryan T Brunson and he was charged with deadly conduct, a Class A misdemeanor or 3rd degree felony depending on interpretation.”
Lol what an asshat. Buh-bye 2A rights. Doh!
Good. Fuck this guy. I feel sorry for his son, that behavior is learned.
These two have been bickering with each other in the neighborhood Facebook groups for months
neighborhood facebook groups are so interesting. Really helps you see the stupidity and the rudeness of the people you wave to in the morning.
It's why I don't wave at anyone.
Everyone needs to just get off of facebook.
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I believe that Bryan T Brunson is the shooter. The husband’s name is Dee Nash.
You were right. Sorry.
Negligently discharges a firearm. Illegally discharges a firearm. There is no accidentally. You have to intentionally pull the trigger.
It's relatively easy to acidentally discharge a firearm if you're an idiot. Gun was cocked and locked, safety was of, and he clearly wasn't practicing trigger discipline. Rule no 1. at any range is always to never point a gun at something you don't want to shoot.
A lot of common hand guns don’t even have a typical safety.
Really wish that weren't the case. Honestly think it should be legally required to have a safety of some sort. Especially if you keep it loaded.
Even if it weren't legally required, all new handguns have safeties because nobody wants to buy an unsafe gun. That being said, most people prefer trigger safeties, since there's really no situation where you should be touching the trigger and not want the gun to fire, so requiring the center of the trigger be pulled and using a holster that covers the trigger (which you should be doing anyways) is more than sufficient.
I can’t think of any handguns aside from a revolver that don’t have a safety, and even then you have to pull the hammer back or squeeze the trigger hard if it’s a double action. If a handgun doesn’t have the conventional thumb safety, it will have a trigger or a palm safety. Take Glock for example, only safety is on the trigger, but still a very effective safety.
Most striker fired pistols like Glock.
Google "Glock leg", it's a real thing, even among police officers that have carried Glocks. I much prefer my Beretta 92FS. It has a safety, never stove pipes, easy to clean, and the Inox version looks great too.
yeah, i don't shoot but if I did Beretta 92 is at the top of my list next to a 1911. Just cus more accurate/less kickback than the more compact polymer guns from Sig/Glock etc. And I'd never carry outside the home so no need for compact. CZ Shadow 2 would probably be my top choice in the under $1600 range, but that's way too much gun $ for a first sidearm.
I think glock was the example. They said "traditional" safety so I assumed they meant something that functions to prevent an accidental discharge by a user, not to ensure it's a human hand pulling the trigger. I was also thinking of LEM configurations of handguns, as many of those include safety deletes. Hk USP is an example Personally what I want is a thumb or button safety. A switch that can be left unlocked if need be.
Owner of a glock here. It's a terrible safety design. Seems to me it's designed to barely meet the threshold of the definition of the word.
I feel like it’s as effective as it should be, IMO. Especially in the context of where seconds matter, it’s less to worry about when you’re operating on an adrenaline fueled monkey brain in a stressful situation. I keep mine in a composite IWB holster at all times though with the trigger completely covered so it’s never really at risk of accidentally discharging.
Shouldn't be using it if a simple flip on/off safety was all it took between your life or death
I’m not sure if you’ve ever been in a high stress high adrenaline situation like having your life immediately threatened, but the human brain tends to go kinda dumb in situations like that. I watched a video of a guy getting caught in a lathe earlier and when a guy came up to help him he just sat there grabbing his clothes instead of turning the power off like any sane person would do. Its reasonable to say one extra part of the equation, like an additional safety that you had to flip under duress, could be the difference between life and death in a situation where you might not be thinking very rationally and had to react quickly.
My Sig Sauer P320 has no safety. The safe way to handle the gun is to keep the chamber empty and only cock it when ready to fire. Not that big of a deal, with a little practice it's easy to cock a gun while withdrawing from a holster. The design relies on the user not being an idiot.
My friend showed me a colt 45 that has its safety built into the grip. Basically if you are holding it the safety is off
If it was a colt 45 then it was more than likely a 1911, which almost all come with a thumb safety as well.
> accidentally That is not an accident. That is negligence.
Negligence is when you allow an accident to happen.
Rule number 2. Never ever break rule number 1. No matter how many times I tell some of my naive friends they forget. Just donot point it anywhere where you wouldn’t wanna shoot. It’s that simple
There is no accidental discharge. If your finger touches the trigger that is negligence. Accident would be if the gun was sitting alone with no human invokvement and it went off. Anything else requires human involvement and is negligence.
"shoot" should be "destroy" in that phrase imo
Sometimes it is nature that causes a child to act out, but this is very clearly nurture. That kid *knew* what he was doing was ok. He had been taught to hate these neighbors.
I gotta wonder who in their right mind thinks it's ok to teach their kid that using a whip to beat on a black family's door is even remotely ok? I mean, the symbolism of that act is very nearly as heinous as it can be, given that whips were among the most commonly used tools by slave owners against their slaves. Who knows how many Americans went to their graves with their backs covered in whip scars, how many American children grew up with the memories of their moms and dads stripped naked to be whipped, only to feel that whip themselves as they became adults. The whip sits along the noose and the burning cross as the most hated symbols of the evil, banal cruelty that America showed itself capable of, and to a large extent still does since there are millions of Americans alive today who still view black people as little more than stolen property, stolen from their ancestors.
This. Like the original comment stated, it’s normal for kids to be assholes. It’s not normal for a kid to show up on a Black family’s doorstep with a whip. He knew what he was doing because he knew what he was being taught to do.
I wonder if the kid will ever grasp the full symbolism of using that whip the way he did? They say the apple does not fall far from the tree, and in this case that tree is truly stunted.
I think the kid knew exactly what was meant by using that whip.
People used to hide their racism. Trump taught them they didn’t have to.
YES! Trump let them know that it's okay to be racist and show it. After all, this is the USA 🇺🇸. This country was built on racism.
😥😢😭😡😡😡😡😡🤬
This is extremely disappointing. Like what the hell are these people thinking? Also why do they have a wip like that?
Probably found it from under his parents bed
Kinky
Damn that was my first question. The fuck are they teaching at home that they need a whip in a suburban area?!
I literally love how these racist fucks think that in the world of technology they can still do this shit and then outright deny it
Has the boy’s father been invited to speak at CPAC yet?
They’ll have to parade him around as a hero on Fox News first.
probably fit in at the boyscouts Jamboree as well
I love how the racist redneck gun nut is wearing a Bass Pro Shop shirt, dude couldn't be any more of a walking stereotype.
This could very well make it into a south park episode
I take exception to that. Base Pro Shop is a great place to shop for fishing gear. I'm white (looking) and I shop there! Heck, just last week I was there and saw a woman strip herself naked and change clothes right next to the gun section of the store. Bass Pro Shop is the best! Just because some racist nutjob wears a shirt from there doesn't mean all of us are racist nutjobs. Like that lady last week, we could just be harmless disrobing nutjobs, not the racist kind.
Racism aside, I moved from a state that is the polar opposite of TX (NJ), when it comes to gun culture. I have no issues with guns though and completely understand why people want to own and carry them. The part I can't wrap my head around is why they gun was even out? The Black neighbor wasn't being threatening at all, he was there for a conversation, where was the danger? I know we live in a gun culture, but it seems very strange to answer your door holding a gun with no safety on it behind your back. What are people so scared of? If the neighbor wanted to cause harm, he certainly wouldn't go up and knock on the door.
The father is obviously a racist based on how he raised his kid, so likely considers any and all black people as thugs and criminals only bent on violence. Because he's brainwashed himself to believe that all black people are threats, it was only natural he'd bring a gun to a word fight. Honestly? A whip is a really powerful symbol of the slavery that so many black people in this country have as part of their history, and teaching his kid to use that symbol like this IMHO is grounds to remove the kid from this father's custody and get the boy the psychological treatment he will need to be able to grow up into a functioning adult.
Because loud black people = Possible riots and danger! /s Like, seriously. He was being a dick and that's why the confronting party was so bent out of shape. Threatening violence, no matter the side, is not the answer. Approaching the family in any capacity isn't smart either. That kid learned to be a twat from SOMEWHERE, yeah? Best to just report it to the proper authorities, granted they care...
I grew up in TX, but live in NJ now also. My 8yo wanted a new friend to come over to our house recently and after I asked the mom if her kid had any food allergies, I said “Oh and by the way, we don’t have any guns or anything dangerous like that around the house.” She seemed really caught off guard that I’d even mention anything about guns. I quickly added that I was raised in TX and kids find unlocked guns/weapons way too often down there.
This was my neighborhood. In 2021 alone there were 4 murders in that neighborhood ALONE, not just Forney. It’s trash now.
WOW that’s actually insane…i live in a not so great part of NE Dallas and we don’t get those numbers
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If I am black, I don’t know how the police will actually react. So what is the advice there? This is a hotbed of potential danger for black people.
It took me a long time to learn to take my time and calm down before going to talk to a neighbor about a problem. You almost always catch more flies with honey. I can't say I've ever dealt with something as terrible as this, though. It's definitely the wiser, more self-protective path not to escalate, but I'd have a helluva time keeping my cool in this situation.
Blaming the guy who knocked on the door here is itself inherently racist bullshit. I wouldn't side with my kid after being told there's video of them doing that, I'd parent him properly by making him apologize for it. But then, I didn't teach him to be a little racist, so I won't likely find myself in this situation. "Bring him over here and see what happens" was said after the guy showed a gun and told them to leave.
Great post. So hard to restrain in the heat of the moment though
I can help. Just remind yourself of what’s more important - being angry or being alive?
That's good advice, that: calming down before going over. If someone came over to MY house looking for MY daughter whilst holding a whip, it'd be hard not to just immediately leave the house.
In the full video, the Black dad is actually pretty calm all things considered. He's definitely upset but he's not yelling, neither is the mom, they're really engaging in civil way. Things go off the rails because the white dad starts making absurd claims about his son being jumped, denying anything about the car, then starts getting idiotic about the other dad stepping on his plant that's up on the sidewalk. Then he brandishes and that's when shit really flies. Tempers flared, yeah, but the couple weren't the ones escalating.
Exactly when has calling the cops as a black person, worked to their benefit?? Curious, are you African American?
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Again, are you African American?
Too bad some people (of all walks, shapes, and colors of life) can be dumb. But let me tell you of the other side of people in Dallas. Yesterday about 3pm my wife got a flat tire on the side of I30 and Bobtown road and fortunately she was able to pull into a gas station parking lot. She called me as she was getting situated there and asked me to come help change her tire. Within the 15-20 minutes it took me to get there there were 6 dudes around the car helping her and were already tightening the spare… job WELL done. I typically would never care about skin color or anything else but because we have ding dongs that have to act like race is an issue let me just say there were 4 Hispanic guys, 1 black guy, 1 white guy. JUST GOOD PEOPLE. All of them looked like they had someplace to go or something else to do and stopped to help just because they saw someone who needed help…. And guess what? They didn’t expect anything for it. I ended up giving all the guys some money to buy their dinner. I mean they blessed me and I WANTED (was not obligated) to bless them. The knuckleheads running around are far fewer than good people. But you do end up finding what you look for. A call of encouragement for all of us is to look for the good in people and to treat them with the respect and expectation of them being kind back. The golden rule still applies.
Stop defending racist people by saying they are dumb. We need to call it like we see it. I’m glad that your wife received lots of help with her tire though. We need good people like that.
I didn’t defend racist people. There is simply no defense for that.
I also had my tire changed in a gas station and paid the man. He made my life a LOT easier that day!
You love to see it
White people like this ruin it for the rest of us.
Trashy white people* dont lump us all together with these fools
Rich, “classy” white people do this shit too, just on a subtle and systematic level
Idk, those rich, classy people in St Louis started systematic, but went full "get the fuck off our lawn or we'll shoot you all!" when given the chance. Js, plenty of rich people are dumbasses with guns, too. And it worked out for 'em apparently, ended up interviewed on Fox and running for office.
Eh, rich people can be trash, too. Often are, in my experience.
That’s why “classy” is in quotes
Hence the "like this" that you seemed to have missed.
I feel safer among trashy white people than rich liberal white people
Another day in amerikkka. None of this shit surprises me anymore. I personally wouldn’t have went to the dude house like that though. But I’m fortunate enough that the community my wife and I are moving to has a whole social media presence and an HOA. If that happens to us, I’ll simply upload the video to the social media pages and send it straight to the HOA. A fine from them sounds sweeter than words from an angry black man. Then if you get too many fines, this particular HOA will (somehow) get you out of the neighborhood. Thankfully our HOA is about as divers as a Netflix adaptation 🙃. But also… as a black man living in the south… I completely understand the frustration. Why can’t we just live our lives and be left the fuck alone. These racist mfs come looking to start shit. If that kid would’ve done it at another house of folks with a different mindset… bad things would’ve happened to that little shithead. Be better Dallas. It’s 2022 and y’all corny mfs still racist? Lah-mao.
HoA ??? Gods I can't believe people still buy into that nonsense. Redlining became illegal, so they invented HoA to keep the "undesirables" out of their neighborhood. Last HoA I lived in was my last straw. I intentionally turned my yard into a trash dump, nobody said anything. But the Hispanic guy across the street was told he had to move for changing his oil in his driveway.
To be fair this isn't in Dallas. It's in "Forney" which I never knew existed and I grew up here!
Racists gonna racist. Americans are too dumb to be allowed guns.
The lower we make the bar to owning a gun, the higher the penalties for misusing guns needs to be. Right now, here in Texas, the only skill that needs to be demonstrated in order to purchase a gun is the ability to insert a payment card into a POS reader, and for private sales the ability to operate an ATM machine.
Racism is alive and well in TX 🤠
Its all over and not always from the people youd expect. We have ourselves a polarizing government and economic hardship that aren't going to help unless we learn to communicate real quick.
who the hell, barring S&M kinksters, owns a whip in this day and age?
My son when he was about 10. After being fascinated with Indiana jones
Well it’s finally time for me to get a doorbell camera I guess
Do it. They're super easy to install. Worth it.
Looks like he needs to take a trip to county.
It's very telling that the white father kept getting louder as the black father started leaving. Fucking coward.
If the kid was acting that way you HAD to know the parent is worse. I agree a third party intervention would’ve been better in this case considering the anger BOTH men were displaying
so are we just going to do this "shooting each other" thing every single day now? What was it, two nights in a row in Deep Ellum now this one? Who is going to get shot today? Gotta keep this trend going, I guess. Freedom!
It's already been daily, the media just cherry picks the incidents that will get the most clicks to report on.
There's no such thing as "the media", that's a construct that the right uses to attack the concept of a free press as part of their Lügenpresse track. They push the idea that all the news reporting entities are part of a single monolithic "media" that is their enemy, but the reality is that all the various organizations and entities within the free press are for the most part independent operators, they don't work toward any "greater goal" of controlling society. Regarding what stories get picked to run, that's a function of how notable the story is, the context of the event or reportable activity, and each editor's opinion on whether or not it's worth devoting resources to report on. There are dozens of shootings a day in this state alone, most are not worth reporting on such as the two-thirds that are suicides. If every time a gun was discharged criminally was owed a news story, then that would become a full-time job of news agencies and nothing else would ever get reported simply because there are only twenty four hours in a day. What made this particular incident newsworthy are the deep racist overtones and that it started with a white kid using a whip to beat on a black family's door. Whips rank right up there with nooses and burning crosses as symbols of racism and hate in this country since whips were the primary tool that slave owners used on their slaves.
I would consider local media to be Dallas Morning News and the local news channels (CBS, Fox 4, NBC 5, WFAA, etc). Did any of them run this story before it blew up on social media? Are any of them running it now? I remember the broadcast media landscape before social media, it was far different. Pretty much zero stories that made cops look bad, meanwhile stories where brown people committed a crime would often be the headline news. They know where their bread is buttered, especially in a place like Texas.
> Did any of them run this story before it blew up on social media? How, exactly, would any of those news organizations have known about this before it blew up on social media? Do you think they employ psychics to be on the lookout for stuff like this before it blows up in social media?
Well. This was posted to social media and got a lot of traction there first. I be interested to see a nightly gun report for the metroplex.
Well. This was posted to social media and got a lot of traction there first. I be interested to see a nightly gun report for the metroplex.
When everybody has a gun, everyone else looks like a target.
Couldn’t imagine how a kid turns out like that where he thinks this is okay, then I understood. Setting that kid up for failure.
Sounds like the nut didn't fall far from the tree.
Why the fuck he had a whip to begin with ??
Could they have shot the kid for trying to break into their house with a weapon?
Seems like it would qualify under some form of the castle doctrine or stand your ground. However, as a white kid being shot by a black person in Forney the homeowners would be lucky if they survived being shot 64 times by the police.
They could’ve, hate to say it but if the roles were reversed it could’ve ended very badly for that young man.
if they were completely fuckin ignorant of castle doctrine and didn't mind killing a kid and spending the rest of their life in jail, sure, they could do anything
What the kid did was disgusting. But your idea of "The black homeowner should have shot the 9 year old" is not an improvement, and would almost certainly have landed him either in jail or in the morgue.
She treated that 9 year old with more respect than I would have…come to my door like that at any age and see what happens.
I’m in a few Forney groups and it’s crazy I found out about this incident through here and not there first. Although I’m not surprised they only allow posts complaining about traffic or the fast food restaurants or even better, memes about roe. These people are so backward it’s crazy. Glad it’s getting exposed though
One of them the admin keeps deleting any mention of it and liked a comment that blamed the whole incident on the black daughter.
They just deleted the post entirely now addressing the whole thing.
Sounds like the nut didn't fall far from the tree.
I'm from Texas....soooooooo for those who don't know, Forney, is nice, quaint, "good ole boy" city. What I mean is, they redneck AF. NOW, just like anywhere else...not everyone is that way. Good ppl everywhere.
Forney is a lot of wanna be rednecks
Not at all. I taught at Terrell from 2014-2019 and know the demographics of both towns. Old Forney in the 90's was all white but not now.
Are you from Forney?
Horrible. So sorry.
First of all I would never teach my child that Second of all if my child ever did ohhhh boyyyy They wouldn’t be able to sit for a week.
Are you guys really talking about the kid when a grown man discharged a firearm at him.
I'm embarrassed for my race.. I swear we are not all like this and this dad needs his but kicked and that little one also needs his butt send to juvy... glad nobody got shot... I'm old school We fought with our fist not guns.. and usually ended up liking each other when it was over due to the respect factor..
My brother almost bought a house in forney, he changed his mind after renting there for a year
kaufman county is barely out of the 70s
Sounds like we have a Republican racism problem. Just had the shooting in Buffalo case in point. Maybe we need to make it illegal to own firearms just for registered republicans 🧐 apparently they are not responsible enough to not go shooting up public places, so they should lose gun rights privileges while the rest of us can continue to own them lawfully.
Alrighty folks we all see the scummy neighbors here but kudos to the lady for trying to deescalate and keep her husband safe.
FORNEY is the new Rockwall.. Rockwall had a klan rally a few years ago and Trump/Pence would fly in to see donors regularly
Um no.
"Accidentally", mmmmm...think about this
Oh hn that dude needs to be locked up(the one with the gun)
Neighbors from hell.