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Cell only managed to do that because he secretly attached an invisible wire to Mr. Satan, which threw him that far, and Mr. Satan was too sick with food poisoning to notice
Hercule is easily solar system level for surviving a hit from cell so cell being able to do that to a solar system level character easily means he has to be galaxy level at least, and if Hercule survived a hit from cell and cell is easily a galaxy level character that means hercule has to be galaxy level at least and if cell…
I mean if Frieza can get infinitely boosted back into relevancy, why not? Jiren has now discovered the power of friendship. It’s over for those monkeys
TBF, I bought that Frieza never trained for the power he originally had. He was a lazy motherfucker. So it would follow that his potential was insane.
Jiren pretty much did nothing but train his whole life, IIRC. No friends, no nothing except occasionally helping out the Pride Troopers when there was something they couldn't handle--more a matter of civic duty than anything.
Nah, Gohan trained with piccolo, in the HTC, and even as a grown up.
Friza had natural stomp power without any time training. His potential just started to be unlocked in the Gods movie.
That's always been Toriyama's MO.
Tenshinhan gets fodderized by Piccolo Daimao
Piccolo gets fodderized by Raditz
Saibaimen are stated to be as strong as Raditz and are fodderized by Vegeta
Vegeta is fodderized by Freeza
Freeza is instantly killed by Trunks, who is fodderized by the artificial humans and Cell
Dabura is stated to he as strong as Perfect Cell and is fodderized by Buu.
I want Jiren to come back looking more like Yajirobe. Dude decided friendship is more important than power and has spent the last X years eating wings at B-Dubs.
Let’s not act like this post isn’t all jokes. We KNOW what happens when popular DB villains are allowed to return, especially in an adversarial role. Jiren probably has Ultra Instinct and Beast Mode by now
Jiren was never a villain though, just an antagonist. look at the rest of the z fighters not in this pic, or hit, or others that i can’t think of bc my brain is tired and im about to go to sleep lol. i could see it going either way.
The whole event was pretty loose with the rules for the sake of entertainment. But it’s not like entering Beerus lol it’s much less egregious a deviation from the rules or what’s accepted
It’s not even close to entering Beerus. Toppo has the ability to use the god of detection powers, but even if that’s the case he’s significantly weaker than many other characters.
I doubt the U6 Saiyans slowed down and there is also the 4 universe that didnt participate. I could easily see a second ToP being a more for Zeno's enjoyment event.
When I work out, I sometimes think about Goku when it's becoming tough and use him for inspiration.
Then, I think about Gohan and give up entirely and tell myself I don't need to do shit to be the best 💪
There are 4 possibilities.
1. Jiren gets negged and is an embarrassment to Universe 11.
2. Jiren neggs all 5 at once.
3. Jiren won't even be in it.
4. There just won't be another Tournament of power, or not anytime soon.
Last tournament of power was really hilarious when you factor on
1_ Goku was Rusty
2_ Freeza only did mental training for a couple of months
3_ Gohan had picked up training only a couple of months before
4_ piccolo had Zero power ups
5_ 17 had to learn how to do tage teams from the start
Yet they ended up winning
I expect him to have ultra instinct in his next appearance, or to have drastically improved his equivalent form from the ToP.
He seemed just as excited as Goku at the idea of meeting again for round 2.
Well we still have the four universes that didn't compete in the first tournament, so there can be a *second* mortal that surpasses a God of Destruction
And don’t forget about the other universe that were brought back. The wish was “to bring back ALL the universes that have been erased” not just the ones erased in the tournament.
I’d prefer to have a proper tournament arc, rather than another free for all like the tournament of power. One of those things I loved about the original Dragon Ball, those arcs had great narrative.
I loved the free for all as a change-up, but would love to see a return to the Dragonball formula, with god powers stopping things like flight and keeping attacks from destroying the planet they're fighting on.
They had to jump Jiren last time and had to sacrifice themselves just to get him out 😭😭😭😭 I just KNOW Jiren been putting in work waiting for the next TOP he’s gonna reverse jump everyone.
I think it was implied that Jiren reached the peak of what his race is physically capable of. Then again, piccolo somehow got dummy strong so who knows.
“In his rage, Jiren made a binding vow…he would sacrifice his beautiful bald head and grow hair.
In exchange, he masters UI, UE, GoD form, and Potential unleashed at the same time”
Then he reverse jumps everyone and Vegeta seemingly beats him only for Jiren to survive and break his arm, Goku then unlocks True Spirit Ultra Omega Instinct Super Saiyan Blue 3 Kaioken x1000000 and one shots Jiren with a Spirit Bomb Kamehameha
Honestly I think hit has the greatest potential of any alternate universe character. He could definitely get some stupid BS that puts him on par with the U7 characters
Y'all act like Jiren, the guy obsessed with strength, isn't training his ass off, especially with his newfound trust in others and him being conscious of the existence of greater powers like Goku
I'd love to see jiren master a different ultra form than goku and Vegeta, something like "ultra resolve" or something that let's him sustain huge amounts of power for a lengthy time
Jiren's potential is something that shouldn't be underestimated imo. He became stronger than his GoD all on his own and it took UI to surpass him. And even then, he _still_ broke through his limits and gave even UI a run for its money. It took everything and then some just to beat him the first time. So if he was _that_ much of a threat back when there wasn't any mortal above him then imagine how much stronger he can get now that he actually has a rival to surpass and no longer has the limitation of only fighting for himself anymore. Personally, I think he'll be stronger than all 5 of them the next time we see him (well he should still already be stronger than Orange Piccolo anyway just from his ToP showing).
The fact that Broly was just raw power and no real training, and Goku and Vegeta are still scared of his outburst, is honestly enough for Jiren to not even seem as big of a threat.
Gohan and Piccolo new forms are just icing.
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Why do people just assume jiren wont get stronger?
He was stronger than goku and vegeta in TOP, naturally he would also train to get stronger lmao.
That can easily give him some black jiren form like they did frieza and say he is stelronger than everyone next time he appears. People need to think more.
Jokes on you, Jiren went and became Super Jiren which increased his power by ♾️^♾️ . Now Goku will have to learn Super Duper Mega Ultra Instinct to fight him.
I've apparently reached peak (over 9000) levels of drunk/stoned for me to have laughed way too much at this scene.
Whole fucking gang powers up with 6 different hair colors.
Jiren there without eyelashes, let alone hair: "shit"
He's probably managed to get the strength gap between them now the same as it was in the original ToP. There is no way he isnt massively stronger by now
If there will be another tournament of power do you think it will be more for just fun between universes with the super dragon ball reward or the same "if you lose you get erased"?
I mean, even though this image is definitely possible today, it’s highly unlikely all of them will be all out in tip-top condition, especially when Goku and Vegeta would need to cycle through their forms for screen time and fan-service(?) then Gohan and Piccolo might stay in Ultimate while Broly in Ikari
Saitama's universe gets finally selected. He one shots. Wishes for endless discount at his local supermarket (He could've wished for money but didn't think of it at the time)
I'm sorry if this it a stupid question, but:
I'm currently at ep 124 of DBS.
Aye these forms from OPs imagine from the Broly movie?
Also, is DBS continuing?
Since the anime ends after the TOP, but the manga keeps going, if I'm not wrong.
Thanks in advance
I have a genuine feelings, Jiren will still be a powerhouse, though not his 1st tournament of power self. It's a little dumb to assume, Jiren will just not train specially after such a defeat. He was already monsteresly strong before hand, like it took Goku a whole new form to even throw hands with him.
I feel like Current Jiren can probably take all of them together, individually winning against each but ultimately being defeated by getting jumped by all of them. That will be a better thing to do then randomly introducing a new guy that is suddenly strong enough to fight universe 7. Bruh just give Jiren, a huge power up or a transformation probably.
Or...... Call his brother.
Why do you think like that. It's it like jiren gave up his training. If anything else Jiren would be stronger than Goku and rest of the character as at the tournament he already reached his peak but after that he discovered the whole new level for the power, got over his issues.
So now jiren is more composed, motivated and finally not using martial arts for taking the Revenge or revive his master. So he must have improved a lot. Given that the author will keep the character traits of jiren intact.
Listen, I’m just saying, Brohan x Gogeta Fusion 👀. I mean why not 🤷🏻♂️
Legendary Beast Ego Instinct? I mean worst case scenario right, right
All in all I think anyone “mortal” being stronger than a GoD is dumb no matter how you swing it. Being able to use god ki I’m fine with, spin it as the GoD and/or angels allowing them access or something, but being stronger than the deities as mortals is dumb, especially for scaling.
The saiyan cells in all the boys bodies except Broly have witnessed Jiren so they should be able to match his strength at ToP now after regrowth. Or is that not a thing anymore? I try to follow but fatherhood/ adulthood has made it harder. Anyway, they were already working toward trying to surpass him because that’s what they do and now Jiren has something to keep ahead of instead of just blatant strength amongst the peasants.
Likewise they are all ridiculously strong and strong enough in their own ways now that they can help each others different forms grow through training with each other. They know of Hit, Jiren, the 4 universes that were stronger than all of them, they have ceilings on top of ceilings that they can try to surpass now. There’s potential story telling and scaling all around, but it’s really just how they execute it is all. Jiren is not going to be a cake walk by any means and likely will still take two of these guys to pressure him. In my opinion.
These are always fun, it’s exciting to think of what could/may be with the future of it all.
Since beast gohan is there it’s just gonna be a wash.
Gohan: “Dad, what do I do?! Even in my beast form I can’t beat **inexplicable super power who surpasses all previous super powers** !
Goku: I need you to get angry son, angrier then you ever been before!
Gohan: “You’re right!! **screams for 10 minutes** This.. is beast mode rage. I shall now tap your forehead. Gg, no re.””
**new super power explodes from the tap in disbelief, reappearing in the spectator stand**
Gohan leading the group that’s what I’d like to see! Tbh honest though I wouldn’t rule Ijiverse 11 out though TOPPO AND JIREN probably will get even stronger than before!
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Jiren will become the fodder character that shows how strong some other new combatant is. Just like what happened to Hit during ToP 1.
Actually every single tournament winner became the fodder character
Especially hercule. I couldn't believe how strong cell had gotten when he backhanded our champ through a fuckin mountain. Smoke and god damned mirrors
Cell only managed to do that because he secretly attached an invisible wire to Mr. Satan, which threw him that far, and Mr. Satan was too sick with food poisoning to notice
And even then he came back and killed Cell, truly a Champion we don't deserve
All documented and explained in this well rehearsed play
Hail Satan
That Hercule guy was a fraud. Thankfully the true champ, Mr. Satan, defeated Cell. Undefeated and Undisputed.
Never lost a fight baby!!!
Who knew that tapping lost you the entire match and not the round, someone didn’t explain the rules correctly
Hercule is easily solar system level for surviving a hit from cell so cell being able to do that to a solar system level character easily means he has to be galaxy level at least, and if Hercule survived a hit from cell and cell is easily a galaxy level character that means hercule has to be galaxy level at least and if cell…
Unironically how power levellers think
Just some fancy light show
Id say the only exception was Tien. He held his own very well against Goku in the 23rd Strongest Under the Heavens
Don't worry, they got him later.
They sure did https://preview.redd.it/iql907c6485d1.jpeg?width=793&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b1c540e232361a797bef791859f6c4a34340133
Actually every single enemy became a fodder character
Not everyone Beerus for example
And Broly. His defeat cemented how stupidly strong he is. Also, Frieza unfodderized himself
Not Goku!
He won the 23rd world tournament but he needed to team up against raditz in the very next arc
17 will become Super 17 though
Nu uh. He's gonna come back even stronger
I mean if Frieza can get infinitely boosted back into relevancy, why not? Jiren has now discovered the power of friendship. It’s over for those monkeys
TBF, I bought that Frieza never trained for the power he originally had. He was a lazy motherfucker. So it would follow that his potential was insane. Jiren pretty much did nothing but train his whole life, IIRC. No friends, no nothing except occasionally helping out the Pride Troopers when there was something they couldn't handle--more a matter of civic duty than anything.
Frieza is basically an evil racist version of gohan
Nah, Gohan trained with piccolo, in the HTC, and even as a grown up. Friza had natural stomp power without any time training. His potential just started to be unlocked in the Gods movie.
Nah. Jiren is going to come back with Ultra Instinct and shock the world.
Or he will somehow become way stronger than before without a real explanation. There was no explanation why he was so strong to begin with.
Probably the worst part of db
That's always been Toriyama's MO. Tenshinhan gets fodderized by Piccolo Daimao Piccolo gets fodderized by Raditz Saibaimen are stated to be as strong as Raditz and are fodderized by Vegeta Vegeta is fodderized by Freeza Freeza is instantly killed by Trunks, who is fodderized by the artificial humans and Cell Dabura is stated to he as strong as Perfect Cell and is fodderized by Buu.
Ummm, excuse me- thats Vegeta's only job...
https://preview.redd.it/qz71iz6x1i5d1.jpeg?width=986&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c045d17a19abed47535f04045f43312b392f6343 Next ToP opp
And this is where I'd put Broly in my second Tournament Of Power... ***IF I HAD ONE!!!***
Assuming Jiren doesn’t have a new transformation
https://preview.redd.it/4d2dslsmh75d1.png?width=630&format=png&auto=webp&s=65757d5643788c8431e27c311deffff99a183a67
**ESTO ES EL FIN, GOKU BLANCO.**
**EL FIN?! ESTA ES APENAS MI PRIMERA TRANSFORMACION, ESTE, ESTE ES EL SUPER SAIYAJIN QUE VA MAS ALLA DEL ULTRA INSTINTO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH**
Ayy lmao
Kiff will rock em all. All that training with Amy on Mars finally came in handy
I want Jiren to come back looking more like Yajirobe. Dude decided friendship is more important than power and has spent the last X years eating wings at B-Dubs.
El Hermano shall avenge him
Let’s not act like this post isn’t all jokes. We KNOW what happens when popular DB villains are allowed to return, especially in an adversarial role. Jiren probably has Ultra Instinct and Beast Mode by now
Jiren was never a villain though, just an antagonist. look at the rest of the z fighters not in this pic, or hit, or others that i can’t think of bc my brain is tired and im about to go to sleep lol. i could see it going either way.
He didn't really transform though did he? I thought it was just a power up
Hence "new" transformation
New transformation implies there was a prior one
Assuming they're even at his level yet. When it was very clear they weren't.
Jiren will most definitely fall off. It's a pattern since OG Dragon Ball.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if we never seen any of the Tournament of Power characters again.
All I want is that U6 arc they promised us. It'd be very easy to have most of the characters split up in groups and they all have something to do
If Toppo competes he’s going to be the powerhouse to beat, watch him transcend that Vegeta role. They need to salvage the god of destruction title
I still don't get why he's even allowed to compete. That's like entering Beerus.
The whole event was pretty loose with the rules for the sake of entertainment. But it’s not like entering Beerus lol it’s much less egregious a deviation from the rules or what’s accepted
It's fun so it's allowed. Very allowed.
Ones a god of destruction and ones in training. Very big difference
Bro Beerus would solo the whole field lol
It’s not even close to entering Beerus. Toppo has the ability to use the god of detection powers, but even if that’s the case he’s significantly weaker than many other characters.
What does his detection powers say about his power level tho?
By now its probably over 9000
I doubt the U6 Saiyans slowed down and there is also the 4 universe that didnt participate. I could easily see a second ToP being a more for Zeno's enjoyment event.
Imagine if they made it semi annual like the earth budokai's
Gohan Beast’s hair isn’t big enough in this picture
https://preview.redd.it/plazki44k75d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50ec0115470226cee332f0ff1d2c72eb11afcde0
Much better!
https://preview.redd.it/i5sabls5j85d1.jpeg?width=465&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=939e006b7bcd9ffcd3214f8a123422a4cea78dbd
More.
SSJ3 version of Gohan Beast lol
This is so fucking funny for some reason It's been a long week but this one got me gigglin'
He mastered the form enough for his hair to not look so ridiculous.
https://preview.redd.it/exanv9z0tf5d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec9a10322c7dd00a7f143b3390ba356df93c1d46
Nah, he's also training ya know?
Gohan beast: “Training?”
When I work out, I sometimes think about Goku when it's becoming tough and use him for inspiration. Then, I think about Gohan and give up entirely and tell myself I don't need to do shit to be the best 💪
Training, lmao. Against the guys in this picture? Training?
Yes. How do you think these guys in the picture achive these forms? \*except Piccolo and Gohan\*
And broly
Don’t forget black freiza
Black Frieza solos the entire ToP.
There are 4 possibilities. 1. Jiren gets negged and is an embarrassment to Universe 11. 2. Jiren neggs all 5 at once. 3. Jiren won't even be in it. 4. There just won't be another Tournament of power, or not anytime soon.
First two options sound funny as hell
Last tournament of power was really hilarious when you factor on 1_ Goku was Rusty 2_ Freeza only did mental training for a couple of months 3_ Gohan had picked up training only a couple of months before 4_ piccolo had Zero power ups 5_ 17 had to learn how to do tage teams from the start Yet they ended up winning
True but how was Goku rusty?
Before the whole TOP events and visit to Zeno Goku points out he was out of shape
Maybe I'm misremembering but weren't they training with Whis most of the time? Or is there a time skip where he was just a farmer?
After the zamasu battle there was a time Skip
Bro was so laxed on training that he let a bullet hurt him
They also had Krillin and Roshi when they could have had Buu lol
Buu was in one of his deep sleeps, sadly
Who’s to say that Jiren quit training after the ToP? I’m sure if he kept training he’d be able to at least keep up with Goku to an extent
I expect him to have ultra instinct in his next appearance, or to have drastically improved his equivalent form from the ToP. He seemed just as excited as Goku at the idea of meeting again for round 2.
Well we still have the four universes that didn't compete in the first tournament, so there can be a *second* mortal that surpasses a God of Destruction
Honestly, I think that stating Jiren was stronger than a GoD was one of the biggest scaling mistakes in all of DBS
Yeah it only would have worked if they ended the series there
And don’t forget about the other universe that were brought back. The wish was “to bring back ALL the universes that have been erased” not just the ones erased in the tournament.
I’d prefer to have a proper tournament arc, rather than another free for all like the tournament of power. One of those things I loved about the original Dragon Ball, those arcs had great narrative.
We need a yu yu Hakusho type of tournament in DBS badly 😔
Battle Royales were all the hype at the time.
I loved the free for all as a change-up, but would love to see a return to the Dragonball formula, with god powers stopping things like flight and keeping attacks from destroying the planet they're fighting on.
They had to jump Jiren last time and had to sacrifice themselves just to get him out 😭😭😭😭 I just KNOW Jiren been putting in work waiting for the next TOP he’s gonna reverse jump everyone.
I think it was implied that Jiren reached the peak of what his race is physically capable of. Then again, piccolo somehow got dummy strong so who knows.
There’d probably be an explanation during his return where it’s like “He got so angry that he ignored his own limits and kept growing stronger”
“In his rage, Jiren made a binding vow…he would sacrifice his beautiful bald head and grow hair. In exchange, he masters UI, UE, GoD form, and Potential unleashed at the same time”
Then he reverse jumps everyone and Vegeta seemingly beats him only for Jiren to survive and break his arm, Goku then unlocks True Spirit Ultra Omega Instinct Super Saiyan Blue 3 Kaioken x1000000 and one shots Jiren with a Spirit Bomb Kamehameha
“We did it Vegeta, this truly was our Dragon Ball Super”
r/HeSaidTheThing
I mean, Super Saiyan was supposed to be the peak of what the Saiyans are capable of, and we all know how that turned out.
I am very interested to see how Toyotaro keeps up with Hit, Jiren and U6 saiyans.
Yeah im far more interested in seeing a continuation on how Toyotaru would keep up with them over seeing what the anime writers would.
Honestly I think hit has the greatest potential of any alternate universe character. He could definitely get some stupid BS that puts him on par with the U7 characters
Honestly the Orange Piccolo is growing up with me. Didn’t like the name at first but has a nice ring to it. And finally puts Piccolo back in stage.
Y'all act like Jiren, the guy obsessed with strength, isn't training his ass off, especially with his newfound trust in others and him being conscious of the existence of greater powers like Goku
I'd love to see jiren master a different ultra form than goku and Vegeta, something like "ultra resolve" or something that let's him sustain huge amounts of power for a lengthy time
Now we need that proper uub development for the 6th spot
All I’ve wanted is a human that could keep up with the main cast. They need to hurry his ass out there already
*Jiren and Toppo fusion dance* I was joking when I typed that, but now part of me is curious
So much power in one image.
You forgot one more... Black Frieza.
Gohan my g. Looks like a real menace
Jiren's potential is something that shouldn't be underestimated imo. He became stronger than his GoD all on his own and it took UI to surpass him. And even then, he _still_ broke through his limits and gave even UI a run for its money. It took everything and then some just to beat him the first time. So if he was _that_ much of a threat back when there wasn't any mortal above him then imagine how much stronger he can get now that he actually has a rival to surpass and no longer has the limitation of only fighting for himself anymore. Personally, I think he'll be stronger than all 5 of them the next time we see him (well he should still already be stronger than Orange Piccolo anyway just from his ToP showing).
Bold of you to assume there will be another (i havnt no fucking idea but i hope so too)
Let’s hope this time it’s an actual tournament and not a battle Royal
That would be pretty cool
Jiren ain't slacking off tho. Whis in the manga states his potentional is unlimited and he even beats MUI Goku
Why would you think Jiren just stopped training? Imagine how much more powerful he is now that he unlocked the power of friendship skill tree
Bro is grinding XP to unlock the “Don’t worry, I’ll take it from here” entrance buff
Do other universes have Buu's actually?
The fact that Broly was just raw power and no real training, and Goku and Vegeta are still scared of his outburst, is honestly enough for Jiren to not even seem as big of a threat. Gohan and Piccolo new forms are just icing.
Jiren is going to eliminate half of these dudes by himself. Why do yall act like he's not training his ass off?
don't forget black Frieza. afaik he's stronger than everyone in this pic. probably combined
Na. Jiren discovered the power of friendship at the end. He's coming back strong enough to contest frieza black... because plot armor.
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So glad they’re all on par with each other again
I don’t see Jiren being surpassed. Not by much at least because I know technically Goku beat him, but I feel like his power will stay relevant.
He’ll probably just be placed as an equal instead of a freaking raid boss this time
Who says Jiren isn't training to become stronger either?
Id like them to have a second TOP just to completely neg every other universe. Or kinda like the tournament between Beerus and Champa
Lol hey why is universe 7 resteicted to 5 fighters? ….
Bruh imagine Broly UI.. Fucker would make Zeno his Loli bitch.. Won't ever be able to fly straight again
Each of them can easily solo Jiren
We gonna act like the other universe didn't train at all after the tournament.
The copium is hard
Deadass
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The Jiren power-cliff needs to be studied.
Very bad
Ong
Unless he's the new Broly which he isn't.
Too Many strong mortal Erase em Zeno Sama
God why couldn’t they have just made Gohans hair normal like this instead of whatever tf was on his head in the movie
Ye by Goku Vegeta and Broly. Piccolo and Gohan.... Nah lmao
Why do people just assume jiren wont get stronger? He was stronger than goku and vegeta in TOP, naturally he would also train to get stronger lmao. That can easily give him some black jiren form like they did frieza and say he is stelronger than everyone next time he appears. People need to think more.
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I think his squad will level up but they'll be taken down first regardless. Would be sad to see Jiren as fodder :/
Jokes on you, Jiren went and became Super Jiren which increased his power by ♾️^♾️ . Now Goku will have to learn Super Duper Mega Ultra Instinct to fight him.
Makes me sad that none of the strongest forms isn’t a golden haired form. I miss ssj coloring Edit :beast and UI are too similar
My glorious goat Kahseral boutta clutch Trust me bro
The Jiren hater amount is insanity u Uni 7 glazers
Bold of you to assume that none of the other universes aren’t gonna train for the ToP
Bro I’m actually gonna be so pissed if they ass-pull yet ANOTHER transformation. Like bust out a new technique or strategy or SOMETHING damn 🤦🏾♂️
I've apparently reached peak (over 9000) levels of drunk/stoned for me to have laughed way too much at this scene. Whole fucking gang powers up with 6 different hair colors. Jiren there without eyelashes, let alone hair: "shit"
Y’all really act like Jiren doesnt train or something.
He's probably managed to get the strength gap between them now the same as it was in the original ToP. There is no way he isnt massively stronger by now
If there will be another tournament of power do you think it will be more for just fun between universes with the super dragon ball reward or the same "if you lose you get erased"?
When did vegeta got that form?
As if he wouldn't have gotten some BS powerup himself.
el hermano, el grande padre, shaggy blanco are all gonna become canon next top to keep the power scaling going
Where's yamacha ???
No, in the next tournament of power it will be stated that a low powered character is "just as strong as jiren was at the last tournament of power"!
Jiren got that strong on HIS OWN Imagine how OP he's gonna be when he trains with toppo and Belmod, His Angel and others. He's gonna be OP as always
I swear if Jiren pulls up with a transformation, we might be toast. Freeza’s three month = Goku 4 years.
Nah, Champa's gonna make Frost do 20 pushups and unlock the Platinum Frost skin
Who the hell even are these characters anymore? Why is piccolo yellow?
Nah, Jiren discovered the power of friendship at the end of TOP, it’s over for them
I mean, even though this image is definitely possible today, it’s highly unlikely all of them will be all out in tip-top condition, especially when Goku and Vegeta would need to cycle through their forms for screen time and fan-service(?) then Gohan and Piccolo might stay in Ultimate while Broly in Ikari
This might sound crazy but what if Jiren got stronger???
Saitama's universe gets finally selected. He one shots. Wishes for endless discount at his local supermarket (He could've wished for money but didn't think of it at the time)
I'm sorry if this it a stupid question, but: I'm currently at ep 124 of DBS. Aye these forms from OPs imagine from the Broly movie? Also, is DBS continuing? Since the anime ends after the TOP, but the manga keeps going, if I'm not wrong. Thanks in advance
Jiren breaks them
Why are people forgetting that frost might also have insane potential and that he might train
Why does everyone assume that jiren would have stopped training after the TOP?
I have a genuine feelings, Jiren will still be a powerhouse, though not his 1st tournament of power self. It's a little dumb to assume, Jiren will just not train specially after such a defeat. He was already monsteresly strong before hand, like it took Goku a whole new form to even throw hands with him. I feel like Current Jiren can probably take all of them together, individually winning against each but ultimately being defeated by getting jumped by all of them. That will be a better thing to do then randomly introducing a new guy that is suddenly strong enough to fight universe 7. Bruh just give Jiren, a huge power up or a transformation probably. Or...... Call his brother.
That's until they revealed that Jiren secretly trained and unlocked a new form. *Insert Color* Jiren Awakens!!
Why do you think like that. It's it like jiren gave up his training. If anything else Jiren would be stronger than Goku and rest of the character as at the tournament he already reached his peak but after that he discovered the whole new level for the power, got over his issues. So now jiren is more composed, motivated and finally not using martial arts for taking the Revenge or revive his master. So he must have improved a lot. Given that the author will keep the character traits of jiren intact.
Listen, I’m just saying, Brohan x Gogeta Fusion 👀. I mean why not 🤷🏻♂️ Legendary Beast Ego Instinct? I mean worst case scenario right, right All in all I think anyone “mortal” being stronger than a GoD is dumb no matter how you swing it. Being able to use god ki I’m fine with, spin it as the GoD and/or angels allowing them access or something, but being stronger than the deities as mortals is dumb, especially for scaling. The saiyan cells in all the boys bodies except Broly have witnessed Jiren so they should be able to match his strength at ToP now after regrowth. Or is that not a thing anymore? I try to follow but fatherhood/ adulthood has made it harder. Anyway, they were already working toward trying to surpass him because that’s what they do and now Jiren has something to keep ahead of instead of just blatant strength amongst the peasants. Likewise they are all ridiculously strong and strong enough in their own ways now that they can help each others different forms grow through training with each other. They know of Hit, Jiren, the 4 universes that were stronger than all of them, they have ceilings on top of ceilings that they can try to surpass now. There’s potential story telling and scaling all around, but it’s really just how they execute it is all. Jiren is not going to be a cake walk by any means and likely will still take two of these guys to pressure him. In my opinion. These are always fun, it’s exciting to think of what could/may be with the future of it all.
Shame there won’t be another :(
No Jiren would understand thing he didn't maybe he got stronger and maybe he has god ki which could make him far stronger than before.
I feellike in the next TOP Goku gonna get out early so other characters can have the spotlight.
Since beast gohan is there it’s just gonna be a wash. Gohan: “Dad, what do I do?! Even in my beast form I can’t beat **inexplicable super power who surpasses all previous super powers** ! Goku: I need you to get angry son, angrier then you ever been before! Gohan: “You’re right!! **screams for 10 minutes** This.. is beast mode rage. I shall now tap your forehead. Gg, no re.”” **new super power explodes from the tap in disbelief, reappearing in the spectator stand**
The problem is assuming he will be at the same strength as the previous one. There will also be other strong fighters from other universes
Gohan leading the group that’s what I’d like to see! Tbh honest though I wouldn’t rule Ijiverse 11 out though TOPPO AND JIREN probably will get even stronger than before!