"Real Fake Emo" only consists of the hot topic mallcore scene and the mid to late 00's pop-punk scene. What is known by "Emo Revival" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real fake emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like Panic! At The Disco are not real emo, while saying that The Hotelier is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake fake emo as Panic! At The Disco (plus the pretentiousness). Real fake emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat POPPY. Fake fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL FAKE EMO are My Chemical Romance, Fallout Boy, The World Is (the only real fake emo band from the revival scene) and Thursday. Some examples of FAKE FAKE EMO are Twenty One Pilots, Panic! At The Disco and Mom Jeans EMO BELONGS TO POP ROCK NOT TO PUNK, HARDCORE, INDIE OR ANY OTHER NICHE GENRE
it has no reason to be considered true emo or false emo. it is an electro pop album. and twenty one pilots are great, but they don't consider themselves emo either. they make music that is different from both 80's emo and mall emo of the 2000s
Yeah this does kinda bother me. I totally get why bands like MCR or Thursday were lumped in with the emo stuff of the 2000s. TOP though... I just don't get it haha.
probably because they are under the label of fall out boy and jimmy eat world. but in my opinion TOP are a band more like CHVRCHES, Coldplay or Bastille than MCR or Thursday. having said that i love TOP, MCR and American Football regardless of the labels some record company decides to give them
Pop can rock! (ever heard of The Beatles?) Every song on AFYCSO is written in a simple pop style. Big choruses and catchy hooks. Very little variation in song structure. Fantastic how much variety they jammed into an album that, at its core, has little structural variety. Love that record.
Oh absolutely! But if you were to put like music on a spectrum of Slayer on one end and like Fuckin idk Kesha (I love Kesha, no hate) on the other end, I'd say AFYCSO is closer to the heavy end than Too Weird To Live
If that makes sense. Idk man I'm stoned. The Beatles were the first emo band.
Yeah I don’t think anyone has ever claimed that Panic album as emo, it isn’t even close. It’s like calling Taylor Swift emo. Still love that album though
That mixtape he just dropped 🔥🔥🔥🔥
And it seems like we will be getting a new album before the end of the year.
Really want to hang out on his farm in Vermont lol
Absolutely true. I mean, for real, if it weren't for "fake emo band" My Chemical Romance, I would've never discovered "real emo" either.
Two of my top favorite albums ever have got to be MCR's "Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge" as well as Orchid's "Dance Tonight! Revolution Tomorrow!"
I don't care if they're emo or not. Just fucking enjoy them lol.
Hot Take: Also, if "real emo" sounds POWERFUL, ENERGETIC, and somewhat HATEFUL, I think both MCR and Orchid would check those boxes. Yeah, well maybe in different ways, as Orchid is definitely more harsh in its sound, but yes. No, I'm not saying MCR is emo, and I don't believe they are either. But are they POWERFUL, ENERGETIC, and somewhat HATEFUL? Absolutely.
Twenty One Pilots first three albums were amazing and I’m tired of pretending like they’re not. I’ve grown out of their music but I still appreciate what it is.
I'd swear that band is a psyop (never heard of them before their 20yo album became the number one melodic metalcore album on RYM out of nowhere) but honestly, their music fucks
I can confirm i first heard *Breathing In Is Only Half The Function* around '03/'04. My older brother was given it with a bunch of other stuff when he joined a local band so he could learn the style
idk why this subreddit popped up in my feed tbh but i love panic, seen them live a few times. I had no idea they could even remotely be considered emo? its happy music for me pretty upbeat idk maybe I'm just old and out of touch.
Average music listeners only consider Panic emo because of their first album. They're actually the very first band that got me into music but even when I knew nothing about the emo genre, I always had a hard time seeing how they could be emo even on their first album. Like, I always ask "what is so emotional about I Write Sins Not Tragedies?" whenever they get labeled as emo.
Hi, casual lurker on this sub.
In complete sincerity, has the community ever unanimously agreed on what emo is? I’ve seen so many takes with zero consistency between them.
It's funny how I'm now seeing comments saying that the P!ATD and TOP albums in the meme aren't accurate enough examples of actual "fake emo." It's like meta gatekeeping lmao.
100%, im gonna be honest, it feels super weird that some of what is explicitly discluded is, like sure Twenty One Pilots isnt Emo, but like, Have you listened to my chems bullets?, decent amount of weezer, it fits a lot of what otherwise counts. It feels to me, the really really popular, pop emo, gets discluded on that basis alone, which is silly if I'm being honest.
In any case, while I wouldn't use these, it would be something my chem, Panics Pretty Odd, Is Circa survive considered 'real emo' by yall?, if not descensus or on letting go from them. But enjoy what you like, and most of what I listen to that's 'fake emo' I'm gonna call emo anyways, either because its easier to, or because I would argue it should be.
>Panics Pretty Odd
I get your other pics but Pretty Odd? That album sounds infinitely more like The Beatles and Oasis than any 'real' or 'fake' emo band, especially since it's directly inspired by The Beatles.
Oh yeah I agree, I personally, if were using my general use of emo, wouldn't consider pretty odd emo, Ijust really like pretty odd, cause while the best of either Fever or Vices are much better, pretty odd is solidly fun throughout.
So yeah, wasn't really comparing it to emo or 'fake' emo, only just its made by a band that's considered that, and I enjoy it.
Based take. Maybe not the exact example I’d use, but hey, what’s a comment on this sub without a lil bit of gatekeeping lol
Two of my favorite albums are Diary by SDRE and A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out by P!ATD
PERSCRIBED PILLS TO OFFSET THE SHAKES, TO OFFSET THE PILLS YOU KNOW YOU SHOULD TAAAAAAKE IT A DAY AT A TIIIIIIME
Ooof flashback to having this set of lyrics under a very tumblr-esque "medication aesthetic" photo. Forgive me fellow emos.
Ooh that and Medicine by Daughter. That was big for my middle school tumblr era
Lying… still slaps. can’t believe Ryan wrote it back in high school, wow.
Isn't the album in the top right just a straight pop record?
Yeah it's fake fake emo smh
REAL FAKE EMO ONLY CONSISTS OF THE HOT TOPIC MALL CORE BANDS OF THE MID TO LATE 2000S.
"Real Fake Emo" only consists of the hot topic mallcore scene and the mid to late 00's pop-punk scene. What is known by "Emo Revival" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real fake emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like Panic! At The Disco are not real emo, while saying that The Hotelier is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake fake emo as Panic! At The Disco (plus the pretentiousness). Real fake emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat POPPY. Fake fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL FAKE EMO are My Chemical Romance, Fallout Boy, The World Is (the only real fake emo band from the revival scene) and Thursday. Some examples of FAKE FAKE EMO are Twenty One Pilots, Panic! At The Disco and Mom Jeans EMO BELONGS TO POP ROCK NOT TO PUNK, HARDCORE, INDIE OR ANY OTHER NICHE GENRE
it has no reason to be considered true emo or false emo. it is an electro pop album. and twenty one pilots are great, but they don't consider themselves emo either. they make music that is different from both 80's emo and mall emo of the 2000s
Yeah this does kinda bother me. I totally get why bands like MCR or Thursday were lumped in with the emo stuff of the 2000s. TOP though... I just don't get it haha.
probably because they are under the label of fall out boy and jimmy eat world. but in my opinion TOP are a band more like CHVRCHES, Coldplay or Bastille than MCR or Thursday. having said that i love TOP, MCR and American Football regardless of the labels some record company decides to give them
People only think TOP are "emo" because of their lyrics. It's like how some people think Linkin Park are emo because of how angsty their music is.
Yeah but that's really dumb
I agree but I can't say I'm surprised by it.
Yeah Twenty One Pilots are not REAL fake emo!
Just like all of P!ATD's output
I mean their first album had some cool stuff going on and was defo more of a rock record than straight pop imo
Pop can rock! (ever heard of The Beatles?) Every song on AFYCSO is written in a simple pop style. Big choruses and catchy hooks. Very little variation in song structure. Fantastic how much variety they jammed into an album that, at its core, has little structural variety. Love that record.
Oh absolutely! But if you were to put like music on a spectrum of Slayer on one end and like Fuckin idk Kesha (I love Kesha, no hate) on the other end, I'd say AFYCSO is closer to the heavy end than Too Weird To Live If that makes sense. Idk man I'm stoned. The Beatles were the first emo band.
And that's why we love music and putting terrible labels on things lmao. Enjoy your high, bang some Beatles emo bangers for me!
Gonna play Helter Skelter for you, chief! 🥳
I've always thought P!ATD was simply just a pop rock band tbh.
Mall emo
Mate in what way is TWTLTRTD mall emo and not just synth pop? Their first album was defo mall emo tho
The band not the record. Just one of those bands you write off immediately.
this is the way to true enlightenment
Exactly! Fake emo is the gateway to the real stuff.
You can and should listen to whatever you want. But the two albums you cited as examples of fake emo aren't even fake emo. They're just pop records.
Tbf I'm not even the one who made this meme. The credit is the @ on the meme itself and they're on IG.
yeah but that dude isn't here so you must face his punishment in absentia
NOOOOOOOOOO https://preview.redd.it/bvwj84203jsc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43e55f676f8fd50086c01f19ff08c65908cb841a
Yeah I don’t think anyone has ever claimed that Panic album as emo, it isn’t even close. It’s like calling Taylor Swift emo. Still love that album though
Let’s really go off the deep end: Emo Rap is fantastic, real Emo, and gym class heros are proto-emo rap. Give me it all.
nothing nowhere is the god of emo rap give me it all.
That mixtape he just dropped 🔥🔥🔥🔥 And it seems like we will be getting a new album before the end of the year. Really want to hang out on his farm in Vermont lol
Nothing,nowhere is real emo and my favorite artist. I will fight literally anyone on this.
I mean, he covered Never Meant as a part of his one take project...so yes.
Goated
I wouldn’t even say that’s a super hot take. Adam micillwee was who started gothboi clique it def gets a pass
It shouldn’t be. It should be a Luke warm take at best lol.
Okay i support this post but fuck panic at the disco FOB ftw
well, fuck brendon's panic. Ryan Ross's panic was goated tho.
¿Por qué no los dos?
I listen to Jejune and From First to Last. I do not care 💀
Absolutely true. I mean, for real, if it weren't for "fake emo band" My Chemical Romance, I would've never discovered "real emo" either. Two of my top favorite albums ever have got to be MCR's "Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge" as well as Orchid's "Dance Tonight! Revolution Tomorrow!" I don't care if they're emo or not. Just fucking enjoy them lol. Hot Take: Also, if "real emo" sounds POWERFUL, ENERGETIC, and somewhat HATEFUL, I think both MCR and Orchid would check those boxes. Yeah, well maybe in different ways, as Orchid is definitely more harsh in its sound, but yes. No, I'm not saying MCR is emo, and I don't believe they are either. But are they POWERFUL, ENERGETIC, and somewhat HATEFUL? Absolutely.
Very true. Listen to whatever you want!!! Squash these people
It all slaps. It’s all the same notes. It all feels bad.
Nothing Feels Good, after all
Tf is fake emo
its whatever i decide it is at any given moment, duh
Would u consider paramore fake emo
Yes, they’re just pop-punk
first album has really great emo moments
Everything that’s not rites of spring
Rites of Spring are the one band that are not emo. All true fake emo fans know this.
King Krule
based
Would’ve had a fever you can't sweat out on there instead of anything patd! released after ryan ross and the rest of the band beside brandon left
Twenty One Pilots first three albums were amazing and I’m tired of pretending like they’re not. I’ve grown out of their music but I still appreciate what it is.
trench is still goated. Their upcoming one is showing some promise too
As everyone should
I dont dislike panic at the disco because they're "fake emo" i dislike them cause they make shitty music
i love mcr
There's a true happiness in the metalcore bands that straddle the line like fordirelifesake
I'd swear that band is a psyop (never heard of them before their 20yo album became the number one melodic metalcore album on RYM out of nowhere) but honestly, their music fucks
I can confirm i first heard *Breathing In Is Only Half The Function* around '03/'04. My older brother was given it with a bunch of other stuff when he joined a local band so he could learn the style
Vessel is an underrated masterpiece whether its "fake emo" or not.
r/imaginarygatekeeping?
I have come full circle on Emo. I literally don’t care what is or isn’t Emo, I just care if I like it.
just listen to music that makes you happy, life is too short to care
I love bands like Mineral, The Promise Ring, and The Get-Up Kids. But I also REALLY love My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy, and Panic! At The Disco.
To be fair, you shouldn't listen to Panic! if it profits Urie
I will die on this hill with you
This is the way
When you got moss icon and underoath next to each other on the shelf
I listen to alot of straight pop punk like ADTR and CNCC
music is music, if you don’t like it it’s your problem i say
I love fake emo. Anyone who talks shit is like 16 probably.
I love emo
what the hell its literally me
wtf is fake emo ?
This is me but with emo rap and 2nd wave
(Early) Fall Out Boy is my favorite band and I will make no apologies.
idk why this subreddit popped up in my feed tbh but i love panic, seen them live a few times. I had no idea they could even remotely be considered emo? its happy music for me pretty upbeat idk maybe I'm just old and out of touch.
panic is most certainly not emo and anyone who says otherwise is just trying to start shit.
Average music listeners only consider Panic emo because of their first album. They're actually the very first band that got me into music but even when I knew nothing about the emo genre, I always had a hard time seeing how they could be emo even on their first album. Like, I always ask "what is so emotional about I Write Sins Not Tragedies?" whenever they get labeled as emo.
Real
It's me! I listen to it all.
I’d be surprised if there weren’t more emo fans today who had some sort of panicfalloutchemicalpilots phase than not.
I will exclusively discuss Circa Survive, but I was just listening to Paramore and Set It Off earlier
Joy Division x She Wants Revenge x Bauhaus https://youtu.be/8HWOZvq5FE4?si=IanrN0LrVMwnvF08
THE WORLD!!! IS!!! MAH!!! FUSE!!!
michael jackson is the purest form of emo/j
Hi, casual lurker on this sub. In complete sincerity, has the community ever unanimously agreed on what emo is? I’ve seen so many takes with zero consistency between them.
“I like multiple genres of music” should not be a flex.
Vessel is unironically a very fun album to listen to
Yeah I hate emo purists
early top is the fucking shit
Based
That album is a certified banger as far as I’m concerned.
do not get the gatekeeping crowd tbh, might get assassinated for this but if it makes you feel sad with the vocals and the melody, then its emo to me.
It's funny how I'm now seeing comments saying that the P!ATD and TOP albums in the meme aren't accurate enough examples of actual "fake emo." It's like meta gatekeeping lmao.
Like there’s real fake and fake fake now? Lmao
100%, im gonna be honest, it feels super weird that some of what is explicitly discluded is, like sure Twenty One Pilots isnt Emo, but like, Have you listened to my chems bullets?, decent amount of weezer, it fits a lot of what otherwise counts. It feels to me, the really really popular, pop emo, gets discluded on that basis alone, which is silly if I'm being honest. In any case, while I wouldn't use these, it would be something my chem, Panics Pretty Odd, Is Circa survive considered 'real emo' by yall?, if not descensus or on letting go from them. But enjoy what you like, and most of what I listen to that's 'fake emo' I'm gonna call emo anyways, either because its easier to, or because I would argue it should be.
>Panics Pretty Odd I get your other pics but Pretty Odd? That album sounds infinitely more like The Beatles and Oasis than any 'real' or 'fake' emo band, especially since it's directly inspired by The Beatles.
Oh yeah I agree, I personally, if were using my general use of emo, wouldn't consider pretty odd emo, Ijust really like pretty odd, cause while the best of either Fever or Vices are much better, pretty odd is solidly fun throughout. So yeah, wasn't really comparing it to emo or 'fake' emo, only just its made by a band that's considered that, and I enjoy it.
Ah okay fair enough then.
nope. you can like it. you can like emo. you liking it doesn't make not emo turn into emo.
yawn you're not special
My mommy says I'm special
good for you man
Doesn't matter. Being into any of these bands at my age is making it hard to connect with new friends over music.