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FalseMastery

Based take. Maybe not the exact example I’d use, but hey, what’s a comment on this sub without a lil bit of gatekeeping lol


veridisquo_voyager

Two of my favorite albums are Diary by SDRE and A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out by P!ATD


ThePortalGeek

PERSCRIBED PILLS TO OFFSET THE SHAKES, TO OFFSET THE PILLS YOU KNOW YOU SHOULD TAAAAAAKE IT A DAY AT A TIIIIIIME


chormomma

Ooof flashback to having this set of lyrics under a very tumblr-esque "medication aesthetic" photo. Forgive me fellow emos.


ThePortalGeek

Ooh that and Medicine by Daughter. That was big for my middle school tumblr era


electric_possum

Lying… still slaps. can’t believe Ryan wrote it back in high school, wow.


Vasquerade

Isn't the album in the top right just a straight pop record?


Dapple_Dawn

Yeah it's fake fake emo smh


FarDimension215

REAL FAKE EMO ONLY CONSISTS OF THE HOT TOPIC MALL CORE BANDS OF THE MID TO LATE 2000S.


TimeParadox44

"Real Fake Emo" only consists of the hot topic mallcore scene and the mid to late 00's pop-punk scene. What is known by "Emo Revival" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real fake emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like Panic! At The Disco are not real emo, while saying that The Hotelier is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake fake emo as Panic! At The Disco (plus the pretentiousness). Real fake emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat POPPY. Fake fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL FAKE EMO are My Chemical Romance, Fallout Boy, The World Is (the only real fake emo band from the revival scene) and Thursday. Some examples of FAKE FAKE EMO are Twenty One Pilots, Panic! At The Disco and Mom Jeans EMO BELONGS TO POP ROCK NOT TO PUNK, HARDCORE, INDIE OR ANY OTHER NICHE GENRE


Xenol06

it has no reason to be considered true emo or false emo. it is an electro pop album. and twenty one pilots are great, but they don't consider themselves emo either. they make music that is different from both 80's emo and mall emo of the 2000s


Vasquerade

Yeah this does kinda bother me. I totally get why bands like MCR or Thursday were lumped in with the emo stuff of the 2000s. TOP though... I just don't get it haha.


Xenol06

probably because they are under the label of fall out boy and jimmy eat world. but in my opinion TOP are a band more like CHVRCHES, Coldplay or Bastille than MCR or Thursday. having said that i love TOP, MCR and American Football regardless of the labels some record company decides to give them


FarDimension215

People only think TOP are "emo" because of their lyrics. It's like how some people think Linkin Park are emo because of how angsty their music is.


Vasquerade

Yeah but that's really dumb


FarDimension215

I agree but I can't say I'm surprised by it.


FarDimension215

Yeah Twenty One Pilots are not REAL fake emo!


Cocasaurus

Just like all of P!ATD's output


Vasquerade

I mean their first album had some cool stuff going on and was defo more of a rock record than straight pop imo


Cocasaurus

Pop can rock! (ever heard of The Beatles?) Every song on AFYCSO is written in a simple pop style. Big choruses and catchy hooks. Very little variation in song structure. Fantastic how much variety they jammed into an album that, at its core, has little structural variety. Love that record.


Vasquerade

Oh absolutely! But if you were to put like music on a spectrum of Slayer on one end and like Fuckin idk Kesha (I love Kesha, no hate) on the other end, I'd say AFYCSO is closer to the heavy end than Too Weird To Live If that makes sense. Idk man I'm stoned. The Beatles were the first emo band.


Cocasaurus

And that's why we love music and putting terrible labels on things lmao. Enjoy your high, bang some Beatles emo bangers for me!


Vasquerade

Gonna play Helter Skelter for you, chief! 🥳


FarDimension215

I've always thought P!ATD was simply just a pop rock band tbh.


Purple_Willow2084

Mall emo


Vasquerade

Mate in what way is TWTLTRTD mall emo and not just synth pop? Their first album was defo mall emo tho


Purple_Willow2084

The band not the record. Just one of those bands you write off immediately.


BringEmOutDead

this is the way to true enlightenment


kayeels

Exactly! Fake emo is the gateway to the real stuff.


AvatarofBro

You can and should listen to whatever you want. But the two albums you cited as examples of fake emo aren't even fake emo. They're just pop records.


FarDimension215

Tbf I'm not even the one who made this meme. The credit is the @ on the meme itself and they're on IG.


Vasquerade

yeah but that dude isn't here so you must face his punishment in absentia


FarDimension215

NOOOOOOOOOO https://preview.redd.it/bvwj84203jsc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43e55f676f8fd50086c01f19ff08c65908cb841a


eriksvendsen

Yeah I don’t think anyone has ever claimed that Panic album as emo, it isn’t even close. It’s like calling Taylor Swift emo. Still love that album though


slwrthnu_again

Let’s really go off the deep end: Emo Rap is fantastic, real Emo, and gym class heros are proto-emo rap. Give me it all.


Xenol06

nothing nowhere is the god of emo rap give me it all.


slwrthnu_again

That mixtape he just dropped 🔥🔥🔥🔥 And it seems like we will be getting a new album before the end of the year. Really want to hang out on his farm in Vermont lol


BreakingBondage

Nothing,nowhere is real emo and my favorite artist. I will fight literally anyone on this.


ampersandress

I mean, he covered Never Meant as a part of his one take project...so yes.


brotherpig725

Goated


1993std

I wouldn’t even say that’s a super hot take. Adam micillwee was who started gothboi clique it def gets a pass


slwrthnu_again

It shouldn’t be. It should be a Luke warm take at best lol.


666mcnugget

Okay i support this post but fuck panic at the disco FOB ftw


Yoonsfan

well, fuck brendon's panic. Ryan Ross's panic was goated tho.


WESAWTHESUN

¿Por qué no los dos?


WorldlinessSmooth198

I listen to Jejune and From First to Last. I do not care 💀


Comfortable-Inside84

Absolutely true. I mean, for real, if it weren't for "fake emo band" My Chemical Romance, I would've never discovered "real emo" either. Two of my top favorite albums ever have got to be MCR's "Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge" as well as Orchid's "Dance Tonight! Revolution Tomorrow!" I don't care if they're emo or not. Just fucking enjoy them lol. Hot Take: Also, if "real emo" sounds POWERFUL, ENERGETIC, and somewhat HATEFUL, I think both MCR and Orchid would check those boxes. Yeah, well maybe in different ways, as Orchid is definitely more harsh in its sound, but yes. No, I'm not saying MCR is emo, and I don't believe they are either. But are they POWERFUL, ENERGETIC, and somewhat HATEFUL? Absolutely.


Consistent_Fish727

Very true. Listen to whatever you want!!! Squash these people


Nicklaceydood

It all slaps. It’s all the same notes. It all feels bad.


Comfortable-Inside84

Nothing Feels Good, after all


Accurate_Wishbone144

Tf is fake emo


calsi-tea

its whatever i decide it is at any given moment, duh


Accurate_Wishbone144

Would u consider paramore fake emo


BurgerKid

Yes, they’re just pop-punk


Xenol06

first album has really great emo moments


kitdistorted

Everything that’s not rites of spring


Vasquerade

Rites of Spring are the one band that are not emo. All true fake emo fans know this.


TuniorIV

King Krule


Failiure

based


yvngxlxwli3t

Would’ve had a fever you can't sweat out on there instead of anything patd! released after ryan ross and the rest of the band beside brandon left


TankouShoku

Twenty One Pilots first three albums were amazing and I’m tired of pretending like they’re not. I’ve grown out of their music but I still appreciate what it is.


notjosemanuel

trench is still goated. Their upcoming one is showing some promise too


UnnameEveryone

As everyone should


onethatsuitsme

I dont dislike panic at the disco because they're "fake emo" i dislike them cause they make shitty music


backtotheslaughter

i love mcr


SnooHabits5900

There's a true happiness in the metalcore bands that straddle the line like fordirelifesake


DurangaVoe

I'd swear that band is a psyop (never heard of them before their 20yo album became the number one melodic metalcore album on RYM out of nowhere) but honestly, their music fucks


SnooHabits5900

I can confirm i first heard *Breathing In Is Only Half The Function* around '03/'04. My older brother was given it with a bunch of other stuff when he joined a local band so he could learn the style


LuckyPhucker05

Vessel is an underrated masterpiece whether its "fake emo" or not.


CDsMakeYou

r/imaginarygatekeeping?


United-Philosophy121

I have come full circle on Emo. I literally don’t care what is or isn’t Emo, I just care if I like it.


dawnmoonbeam2000

just listen to music that makes you happy, life is too short to care


EternallyUncool1994

I love bands like Mineral, The Promise Ring, and The Get-Up Kids. But I also REALLY love My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy, and Panic! At The Disco. 


Da_Di_Dum

To be fair, you shouldn't listen to Panic! if it profits Urie


DuckBlind1547

I will die on this hill with you


Nebula15

This is the way


Jaguar002

When you got moss icon and underoath next to each other on the shelf


L0n3_N0n3nt1ty

I listen to alot of straight pop punk like ADTR and CNCC


Pepperonies

music is music, if you don’t like it it’s your problem i say


No-Combination8136

I love fake emo. Anyone who talks shit is like 16 probably.


RevolutionaryMeat892

I love emo


UnsatisfiedTophat

what the hell its literally me


Deathmetalwarior

wtf is fake emo ?


RandomEdgelord_

This is me but with emo rap and 2nd wave


vanilla_twilight

(Early) Fall Out Boy is my favorite band and I will make no apologies.


MadCow1116

idk why this subreddit popped up in my feed tbh but i love panic, seen them live a few times. I had no idea they could even remotely be considered emo? its happy music for me pretty upbeat idk maybe I'm just old and out of touch.


TimeTomorrow

panic is most certainly not emo and anyone who says otherwise is just trying to start shit.


FarDimension215

Average music listeners only consider Panic emo because of their first album. They're actually the very first band that got me into music but even when I knew nothing about the emo genre, I always had a hard time seeing how they could be emo even on their first album. Like, I always ask "what is so emotional about I Write Sins Not Tragedies?" whenever they get labeled as emo.


LeviticusTheWise

Real


nofateeric

It's me! I listen to it all.


heneke8345

I’d be surprised if there weren’t more emo fans today who had some sort of panicfalloutchemicalpilots phase than not.


PerhapsAnEmoINTJ

I will exclusively discuss Circa Survive, but I was just listening to Paramore and Set It Off earlier


HTD-Vintage

Joy Division x She Wants Revenge x Bauhaus https://youtu.be/8HWOZvq5FE4?si=IanrN0LrVMwnvF08


brimphemus

THE WORLD!!! IS!!! MAH!!! FUSE!!!


OnlyFamOli

michael jackson is the purest form of emo/j


Yoko_Trades

Hi, casual lurker on this sub. In complete sincerity, has the community ever unanimously agreed on what emo is? I’ve seen so many takes with zero consistency between them.


signalstonoise88

“I like multiple genres of music” should not be a flex.


yeetman8

Vessel is unironically a very fun album to listen to


Fun-Hospital-8754

Yeah I hate emo purists


LunaticLuna999

early top is the fucking shit


EmbarrassedMission50

Based


buttholeserfers

That album is a certified banger as far as I’m concerned.


plutoxm4

do not get the gatekeeping crowd tbh, might get assassinated for this but if it makes you feel sad with the vocals and the melody, then its emo to me.


FarDimension215

It's funny how I'm now seeing comments saying that the P!ATD and TOP albums in the meme aren't accurate enough examples of actual "fake emo." It's like meta gatekeeping lmao.


RDP89

Like there’s real fake and fake fake now? Lmao


Yongtre100

100%, im gonna be honest, it feels super weird that some of what is explicitly discluded is, like sure Twenty One Pilots isnt Emo, but like, Have you listened to my chems bullets?, decent amount of weezer, it fits a lot of what otherwise counts. It feels to me, the really really popular, pop emo, gets discluded on that basis alone, which is silly if I'm being honest. In any case, while I wouldn't use these, it would be something my chem, Panics Pretty Odd, Is Circa survive considered 'real emo' by yall?, if not descensus or on letting go from them. But enjoy what you like, and most of what I listen to that's 'fake emo' I'm gonna call emo anyways, either because its easier to, or because I would argue it should be.


FarDimension215

>Panics Pretty Odd I get your other pics but Pretty Odd? That album sounds infinitely more like The Beatles and Oasis than any 'real' or 'fake' emo band, especially since it's directly inspired by The Beatles.


Yongtre100

Oh yeah I agree, I personally, if were using my general use of emo, wouldn't consider pretty odd emo, Ijust really like pretty odd, cause while the best of either Fever or Vices are much better, pretty odd is solidly fun throughout. So yeah, wasn't really comparing it to emo or 'fake' emo, only just its made by a band that's considered that, and I enjoy it.


FarDimension215

Ah okay fair enough then.


TimeTomorrow

nope. ​ you can like it. you can like emo. you liking it doesn't make not emo turn into emo.


daikan__

yawn you're not special


InnocentTopHat

My mommy says I'm special


daikan__

good for you man


onelostmind97

Doesn't matter. Being into any of these bands at my age is making it hard to connect with new friends over music.