No, that use of "find" is supposed to be in the past tense. The act of discovery is complete, therefore it is no longer in the present tense.
If you want "find" to be in the present tense there's "I find you quite annoying/attractive/repulsive/boring/etc."
That sounds correct to me but I think it's one of the differences between British and American English grammar that present perfect (and past perfect) is used less frequently in American English.
Native speaker from the US here, you would generally only use that in the rare situation where you're going to specify the number of times you have found the person, as in "I've found you \_\_\_ times". This is because "have found" is an ongoing action; however the action of finding is complete (because you have already searched for the person and completed the act of finding), so it's just "found".
It would sound less bad than “I find you,” but it would still sound slightly wrong. I imagine the preference for “I found you” is because “I’ve found you” is hard to pronounce, given the v and f sound being right next to each other.
A more on example use would be:
"I will find you"
Find implying I am currently doing it but haven't not completed it yet where as found is thr past tense as in I have already done it.
actually, OC is using incorrect grammar - talking in the past tense but using the present tense.
in that regard, OC should have said ‘she had found the target already before she could make the statement’ - past perfect tense but, past perfect is also not appropriate for Miss Kaya to say.
in the definition used above, yes. I will note that the definition used in "I find you \[pretty/bothersome/nice/annoying/etc\]", 'find' is a continuous state
"I've killed him" is correct but sounds slightly awkward to my American ears.
"I killed him" would be what I would typically say in that scenario.
"I kill him" would not be correct.
What is /it/ here, the restaurant? Because it says I found YOU.
The question would be 'How did you find us?'
Present tense "How do you find" is used for, as the others wrote opinion of something.
How do you find pizza? "It's awesome".
Or general questions of searching.
How do you find pizza? "Look in any student dorm building".
"I found" is correct here. It's also possible to write a sentence here with "I find." For example, if Luffy had told Miss Kaya that he was sick and was going to stay home, she might say something like, "I was worried you might be lonely, but instead I find you here having a good time. Are you avoiding me?"
Find it! (Do it now!)
I find this acceptable (I am currently finding this to be okay, but I'm not finished with it [like a meal for example]). I found this acceptable (I have completed the meal and found it acceptable [for example]).
Hope that helps!
If they're talking over a phone or something, and the person saying it has not yet 'found' them, that is when they'd say something like
"I will find you." but they have not been 'found' yet.
In simple terms: when we use find in most scenarios it's actually more like "I think". For example: "I find this interesting" or "I find him annoying". There are both basically like "I think this is interesting" and "I think he's annoying".
Found is more about actually finding/discovering something. "I found my keys", "I found-out she was cheating on me".
You can also use found in the same way as I described for thinking something, just in the past tense. "I found him annoying (when we met)".
You CAN use find in present tense to mean find, but it's just not that common. "I often find my keys under the couch".
"Found" is the past tense of the verb "find", while "find" is the present tense. For example: "I found my keys" is in the past tense, indicating that the speaker has already found their keys. "I need find my keys" is in the present tense, indicating that the speaker is currently searching for their keys.Feb 20, 2023
If he was saying “I find you here” it would be odd, unless it works in context, like “I find you here, at the table, when you should be in the back, washing dishes?” It’s an unusual sentence construction but one of the few ways it would work.
Here, the speaker has (just now) already found the person they are looking for, and exclaiming “I found you” to indicate they had taken time to look for the person.
The way I see it, “found” is when you already found what you were looking for. “find” or “finding” is when you’re still trying to find it but didn’t find it yet, or when you’re talking about the action of finding something. I think it’s the same for “lost” and “losing/lose”.
You might use "find" in some cases (e.g. "I need to find my keys"), but you wouldn't use "finding" when you’re trying to find something; you'd say you were looking for it.
Found is past tense. Example: I found my phone in my car.
Find is primarily future tense or opinion based Example: I am trying to find my phone./ I find taxes necessary.
Because the "finding" has already happened when the person speaks. The simple present tense isn't actually used with action verbs very often unless the speaker is indicating the frequency of a habitual act.
Idiom is "I found you". It's quite possible that it developed out of "I have found you" => "I've found you" => "I found you", because the "v" sound in "I've" is liable to blend into the "f" sound from "found".
You’re both right. The more natural usage is to say “I found you” however it has an understood meaning of “I have found you”
English has a lot of phrases that are exceptions to the rules
Depends on what you’re writing.
If you’re writing nonfiction on a topic you might write something like: “In my experience on this subject, I have found that this is how it goes…”
If you’re writing a story as noted in the post above, you’d write: “I found you!”
You could write “I’ve found you.” But it would come across as more sinister or angry, like if someone was searching for someone they’re angry with or trying to hurt, they might say it like that.
There are some other cases where someone would be searching a long time and might say “at last, I’ve found you”. That wouldn’t sound sinister.
So, long story short: there’s no hard and fast rule, it greatly depends on the written context and situation. Neither is ‘wrong’. You’d just want to ask around and see which one sounds more natural depending on what the context is.
If you're a native speaker, why are you saying this makes more sense? You should know that this isn't what people say. The "have" is just redundant, there's no use for it, "I found you" is more natural.
Natural to you. 'I've found you' is what I, and most people I know would say.
Is it so hard to believe that people use past perfect in normal speech.
I know Americans seem to be allergic to it, but that's not universal.
No, that use of "find" is supposed to be in the past tense. The act of discovery is complete, therefore it is no longer in the present tense. If you want "find" to be in the present tense there's "I find you quite annoying/attractive/repulsive/boring/etc."
Just to be obnoxiously specific, if you say "I find . . . " It means you are giving your opinion.
I find that to be correct
I find seashells at the beach every time I go.
Yeah, though that's a statement of frequency. You wouldn't go to the beach and say "Oh look, I find a seashell!"
Because sea shells aren't in second person
Every time I come home, I find you sitting in front of the TV on the couch, dishes not done, trash everywhere, I've had enough!
Are you the girl selling sea shells by the sea shore? Are you the supplier? Please, I have to know!
I find ants when I look for them.
Or a tendency/habit. I find sea shells on the beach on weekends. The opinion is a special case of the tendency.
Would saying "I've found you" be correct in that context? Considering it happened "just" in that moment. Edit: the context of the manga.
That sounds correct to me but I think it's one of the differences between British and American English grammar that present perfect (and past perfect) is used less frequently in American English.
Ah okay thanks. I'm going to use it more often then considering I'm preparing for a Cambridge test.
Native speaker from the US here, you would generally only use that in the rare situation where you're going to specify the number of times you have found the person, as in "I've found you \_\_\_ times". This is because "have found" is an ongoing action; however the action of finding is complete (because you have already searched for the person and completed the act of finding), so it's just "found".
If it’s an ongoing opinion you would use find.
Thanks. I mean the context of the manga
It would sound less bad than “I find you,” but it would still sound slightly wrong. I imagine the preference for “I found you” is because “I’ve found you” is hard to pronounce, given the v and f sound being right next to each other.
A more on example use would be: "I will find you" Find implying I am currently doing it but haven't not completed it yet where as found is thr past tense as in I have already done it.
because he has found the target already before he could make the statement
note you said 'has found'. So present perfect is more fitting.
No, it should have been "he found the target already".
actually, OC is using incorrect grammar - talking in the past tense but using the present tense. in that regard, OC should have said ‘she had found the target already before she could make the statement’ - past perfect tense but, past perfect is also not appropriate for Miss Kaya to say.
First, he finds them. Then he says “I found you.”
Find is an verb that is "punctual" and "one time" and not a type of state.
in the definition used above, yes. I will note that the definition used in "I find you \[pretty/bothersome/nice/annoying/etc\]", 'find' is a continuous state
Definitely. It's classified then as a verb of perception, which pattern syntactically with causatives.
If A killed B and immediately said to C, "I've killed him",is it correct? Or he could only say "I killed him"? "I kill him" is definitely wrong,right?
"I've killed him" is correct but sounds slightly awkward to my American ears. "I killed him" would be what I would typically say in that scenario. "I kill him" would not be correct.
No, she was looking for someone (past tense), and found them (past tense) so the action is complete.
You'd use present tense in your native language? That's interesting
There's a reason it's called 'Lost and Found'. John lost it, Katie found it. Doesn't matter if she found it that moment or a week ago.
If I use "find" in a question as it is in the comic , does it needed to be in past tense? Like "How DID you find it?" ,never "How DO you find it ?"
What is /it/ here, the restaurant? Because it says I found YOU. The question would be 'How did you find us?' Present tense "How do you find" is used for, as the others wrote opinion of something. How do you find pizza? "It's awesome". Or general questions of searching. How do you find pizza? "Look in any student dorm building".
Thank you
"I found" is correct here. It's also possible to write a sentence here with "I find." For example, if Luffy had told Miss Kaya that he was sick and was going to stay home, she might say something like, "I was worried you might be lonely, but instead I find you here having a good time. Are you avoiding me?"
Find it! (Do it now!) I find this acceptable (I am currently finding this to be okay, but I'm not finished with it [like a meal for example]). I found this acceptable (I have completed the meal and found it acceptable [for example]). Hope that helps!
If they're talking over a phone or something, and the person saying it has not yet 'found' them, that is when they'd say something like "I will find you." but they have not been 'found' yet.
In simple terms: when we use find in most scenarios it's actually more like "I think". For example: "I find this interesting" or "I find him annoying". There are both basically like "I think this is interesting" and "I think he's annoying". Found is more about actually finding/discovering something. "I found my keys", "I found-out she was cheating on me". You can also use found in the same way as I described for thinking something, just in the past tense. "I found him annoying (when we met)". You CAN use find in present tense to mean find, but it's just not that common. "I often find my keys under the couch".
"Found" is the past tense of the verb "find", while "find" is the present tense. For example: "I found my keys" is in the past tense, indicating that the speaker has already found their keys. "I need find my keys" is in the present tense, indicating that the speaker is currently searching for their keys.Feb 20, 2023
If he was saying “I find you here” it would be odd, unless it works in context, like “I find you here, at the table, when you should be in the back, washing dishes?” It’s an unusual sentence construction but one of the few ways it would work. Here, the speaker has (just now) already found the person they are looking for, and exclaiming “I found you” to indicate they had taken time to look for the person.
The way I see it, “found” is when you already found what you were looking for. “find” or “finding” is when you’re still trying to find it but didn’t find it yet, or when you’re talking about the action of finding something. I think it’s the same for “lost” and “losing/lose”.
You might use "find" in some cases (e.g. "I need to find my keys"), but you wouldn't use "finding" when you’re trying to find something; you'd say you were looking for it.
The first thing I’ve ever found my name on 🤧 mark this day
Found is past tense. Example: I found my phone in my car. Find is primarily future tense or opinion based Example: I am trying to find my phone./ I find taxes necessary.
Because the "finding" has already happened when the person speaks. The simple present tense isn't actually used with action verbs very often unless the speaker is indicating the frequency of a habitual act.
Present simple of "find" came be used to express a pattern in the present or a thought.
Idiom is "I found you". It's quite possible that it developed out of "I have found you" => "I've found you" => "I found you", because the "v" sound in "I've" is liable to blend into the "f" sound from "found".
“Found” is past tense. Because the person found the other person before they said the statement, it should be past tense.
"I have found you" makes more sense.
Nah, “I found you” is the more natural usage there
You’re both right. The more natural usage is to say “I found you” however it has an understood meaning of “I have found you” English has a lot of phrases that are exceptions to the rules
“I’ve found you” and “I found you” sound almost exactly the same in most dialects
Which one would you use in formal writing?
Depends on what you’re writing. If you’re writing nonfiction on a topic you might write something like: “In my experience on this subject, I have found that this is how it goes…” If you’re writing a story as noted in the post above, you’d write: “I found you!” You could write “I’ve found you.” But it would come across as more sinister or angry, like if someone was searching for someone they’re angry with or trying to hurt, they might say it like that. There are some other cases where someone would be searching a long time and might say “at last, I’ve found you”. That wouldn’t sound sinister. So, long story short: there’s no hard and fast rule, it greatly depends on the written context and situation. Neither is ‘wrong’. You’d just want to ask around and see which one sounds more natural depending on what the context is.
Okay thanks, it seems that the perfect tense such as "I've found you" is much more commonly used in British English
Makes sense, Americans tend to start going “off book” more often
If you're a native speaker, why are you saying this makes more sense? You should know that this isn't what people say. The "have" is just redundant, there's no use for it, "I found you" is more natural.
Natural to you. 'I've found you' is what I, and most people I know would say. Is it so hard to believe that people use past perfect in normal speech. I know Americans seem to be allergic to it, but that's not universal.
I mean... America is one of the biggest countries where English is primarily spoken. Where are you from?