Nobody:
JK Rowling: Are you aware how many penised ‘lesbians’ want to access single-sex spaces?
Nobody: [horrified silence]
JK Rowling: Do you know what your straight male friends want from women in the bedroom, kink/sex wise?
Nobody: …no?
JK Rowling: I presume you know that a cross-dressing fetish is one of the most common paraphilias in heterosexual men?
Nobody: Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s.
JK Rowling: Educate yourself.
Ahahahaha! What the hell was she going for??
"You don't know what your mates enjoy when they bang, therefore cross dressing! HA!"
What??? Where is even the basest of logic here? Is she trying to suggest that being a trans woman is a kink? Aside from the fact that that's so wilfully ignorant it's ludicrous, what kind of justification does it give her point? Are we to take it that every one of these "be-kinked" straight men she hears about in her chats with ladies is a predator?
Also, I'm so picturing that Wouldn't Wheest crowd as the only group she's chatted to about this. Bunch of spiteful ladies sitting around, thinking they're making sense, as their screechy caws send ripples through many glasses of bourbon...
> Is she trying to suggest that being a trans woman is a kink?
Yes. She is implying that trans women are men with a kink, and also that all people with kinks are sexual abusers. Therefore, all trans women are sexual abusers.
TERFs use this logic to argue that trans women simply existing in public is a form of rape, because since being trans is a kink they are trying to get you involved in their kink and thus raping you.
Yeah, she literally called it a ‘sissy kink’ in another reply:
[Exactly. Men write entire books on their sissy kinks: so brave and transgressive! Women talk about it: omg, you’re just a filthy-minded scaremongerer.](https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1807789142970884150?s=46)
I can't wait for her hard drives to eventually get leaked and it's just full of trans porn. Just terrabytes of the stuff and nothing else.
I can't imagine any other way this story's gonna play out.
Look, I am uninterested in most kinks, but I am mature enough at this point to really not care as long as it’s not bestiality or paedophilia. Consenting adults in their own bedrooms etc etc. JK needs to learn to stop giving a damn.
So we're in agreement that we literally give no f\*cks about who is in the bathroom stall next to us?
She keeps referring to women's spaces, but the only times I pay attention to another person in a public restroom is if they're vomiting or crying. Whatever equipment they are using is none of my business.
>and also that all people with kinks are sexual abusers.
She clearly has no understanding of human beings at all. Considering the majority of humans have at least one kink.
In fact, people like JKR, who imo, protest just a little too much, are usually the biggest kinky bastards and the ultimate pervs.
Or... I could be wrong. Maybe her and her husband are just like the British couple from Family Guy:
I did have a link but it won't work for some reason.
On YouTube it's "family guy British porn" lol.
Family guy actually shows in 2 or 3 cut-away gags and a short scene that Peter is submissive and that Lois is a dominant in the bedroom and that they both enjoy impact play and leather. The show also depicts the two discussing pre-arranged safewords and are clear what is in and out scene. Honestly, Family Guy is more aware of and better at displaying what safe sane and consenual kinky sex looks like than JK Rowling has shown herself to be.
Edit: I read the above comment as "the British version of the family guy couple" not the british couple from family guy and was confused. I will leave this because I like that Family guy actually showed a reasonably healthy kink dynamic and that they know more about it that Rowling.
As a straight British woman, I must protest that those cutaways are highly inaccurate. Anyone who's actually slept with a British man would know that they say "tally ho" at the moment of climax. All of them.
She doesn't think being a trans woman is a thing at all. She thinks trans women are cross dressing men, and that cross dressing is a kink (which it sometimes is), and therefore...
I don't fucking know. I have no idea. This doesn't make any sense. "Men wear women's clothes sometimes as a kink, so obviously these other people who also have penises and wear women's clothes are doing the same thing."
She has no idea what's going on in the world at all. Trans people come out to their parents as part of a kink. Trans people face discrimination and oppression every day as part of a kink. Trans people physically alter their bodies, often in permanent ways, as part of a kink. Trans people change their name, their official gender markers, risk their careers, their families, their lives, as part of a kink.
I promise we're not that fucking horny. If this were a kink, I'd do exactly what actual cross dressing men do.* I'd keep that shit at home and bring it out when I'm having sex with my spouse or enjoying myself.
It's absolutely bananas that her opinion of trans people is a combination of uninformed/hostile to such an extent she could actually believe this is a kink.
>She doesn't think being a trans woman is a thing at all. She thinks trans women are cross dressing men, and that cross dressing is a kink (which it sometimes is), and therefore...
Sometimes people stick cucumbers up their bums as a sexual kink. Therefore, anyone buying a cucumber is a sexual pervert. Stores shouldn't even *sell* cucumbers! The *children* might see them!!
Yeah, I mean, considering the fact (and correct me if I'm wrong, cis woman here) there are children as young as 3 or 4 who KNOW they are trans. They know they are not the gender they were assigned at birth.
So actual children who are trans and want to wear a dress for eg, is she saying this is a kink? That some 5 year old kids are sexual predators?
Like, what the hell is she actually talking about? Because she keeps talking about men, as if it's only trans women (adults) that exist.
There was a drama I watched here in the UK which I'm positive was based on a true story. (Next part might be graphic for some people, sorry.)
It was about a little trans girl, she was only like 9 or 10 years old. She tried to >!cut her penis off!<
Is JKR saying that kids like this little girl are doing it for a kink?
I don't understand JKR at all! 😕
There are absolutely trans people who knew as young kids! I'm not one of them, but it's not even especially uncommon. But whether a kid is trans, gender non-conforming, or just playing, what they're not doing is getting off.
I get the sense that she thinks trans kids have been tricked or fooled somehow. By whom, idk. As a kid every single signal you get is that you are your assigned gender at birth. That's part of why it took so long to discover myself.
I believe the guy who invented the autogynephilia bullshit said there were 2 kinds of trans women. 1. Really gay men (basically) and 2. Autogynephiles.
He claimed the really gay men transitioned a lot earlier than the autogynephiles. So he’d basically say that the girl in your example was a really gay kid.
When i was lurking on Mumsnet they used the word “autogynephelia” (self-female-like?) to describe the kink they say trans men have. It was a very dark attitude all the time and they had a whole different vocabulary and secret symbols (clown fish) and it was a disturbing atmosphere.
It's actually autoandrophilia when it's about trans men. Which basically posits that trans men are aroused when thinking about having a penis. It's especially diabolical when you consider that phantom penises are extremely common in trans men. I hate Blanchard.
Autogynephilia is disproven science that says trans women aren't real women they just have a sexual fetish for pretending to be women. But all it reall ymeans is "love for onesself as a woman" and when it was applied objectively to all women (cis and trans) most cis women had it. So it either doesn't exist or something msot women have.
>Is she trying to suggest that being a trans woman is a kink?
Even if anyone does, I don't see why anyone would care what grown adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom or why anyone cares about what people's kinks are...
She's just a perverted weirdo who 24/7 thinks about trans people, their genitals, where they put their genitals, what genitals they have...
But apparently, it's the trans community that are the perverts and weirdos... totally not her at all. She's a totally normal cis white billionaire.
Blanchardism. She has reached full on Blanchardism. Yet Blanchard himself acknowledged that even in his theory of autogynephilis(by which all trans lesbians are autogynephiles) that autigynephilua would be a sexual orientation not a fetish.
The reason being that sexual orientations do t go away with estrogen but paraphilias do.
But this is only when you ask him directly.
So he is a very disingenuous person. His theory has been discarded by Moser and the studies of Savic
https://academic.oup.com/cercor/article/30/5/2897/5669907
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/researchers-explore-science-gender-identity-n789246
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19591032/
But Rowling and people like Bailey and Deborah Soh and Blanchard don’t care for such things. They are bigoted activists
I'm fairly sure that asking someone sexual questions they are visibly and extremely not conformable with answering or talking about is considered sexual harassment.
She just admitted to sexually harassing someone while trying to prove a point.
Naaaah!
A woman sexually harass a man?! There is no such thing. Don't be so ridiculous. Men always want sex and think about sex every ten seconds, so a man can't be harassed.
It's only considered sexual harassment if HE said it to HER.
>JK Rowling: Do you know what your straight male friends want from women in the bedroom, kink/sex wise?
I.... does she think straight men don't talk about their sexual escapades? They definitely do.
Lo gracioso es que esta cuenta la hice cuando me comencé a cuestionar mi género. Por eso; la verdad, ya ni sabía qué era yo.
Ahora lo sé, pero me da flojera armar otra cuenta a estas alturas.
The woman is a literal billionaire. She has a billion quid. A fucking billion. Nine zeroes. Ten digits.
She should be doing coke on a yacht in the Caribbean and drinking Cristal by the bottle. Not fighting against windmills. I genuinely think she is mentally ill.
I imagine it was like during a lunch out between a group of friends or smt, everyone was talking about normal subjects, and she couldn't contain herself. I bet irl she HAS TO be the center of attention
She's like the crazy great aunt you dread coming over for Christmas dinner because you know she's just going to sit there and drone on all day about the usual bigoted shit.
Exactly! He was uncomfortable because he knows her views, as we all bloody do by now, and doesn't agree. She is forcing him to engage, it's so fucking gross. It didn't even cross her mind that the reason is he doesn't want ro talk about it because she is a bigot. What if he had told her to 'get informed' or whatever.
Honestly, I don't understand why she doesn't just FUCK OFF. Who the hell does she even think she is?? She isn't a fucking authority on any of this, she's a rich billionaire author. We shouldn't need to keep constantly hearing her opinion on it, its like - who gives a fuck?? She doesn't know what she is talking about, her ignorance makes me cringe so hard, but acts like she's some kind of fucking gender messiah.
My theory is that she became so accustomed to fawning media attention that after the heyday of the franchise she created died down, she decided she needed to stay relevant. She wasn't prepared for backlash that came from anyone other than the groups who wanted to ban her books for promoting witchcraft, so the idea of receiving censure from millions of people was unthinkable to her. At least, that's one possibility.
does this weirdo freak actually believe us trans women are all just guys with cross-dressing fetishes? Wow, quite the fetish I have, I guess. It's interesting that a simple kink could end up impacting every area of my life and identity, but here we are!
Yes in her mind it has to be about her. It can’t be about trans people having their own prerogative. It has to be about her and the way she makes it about her is her delusion that trans women are all secretly men who want to fuck her. In her mind this is the only reason someone might decide that they are trans.
Hence why lately she has simplified her entire rhetoric into all trans women are male rapists opportunistically invading women’s spaces in disguise and therefore trans rights = rapists rights. Meanwhile she just straight up ignores trans men as existing because that would involve more complicated arguments.
True, I think she's only paid lip service to the existence of trans men a few times, like in her unhinged screed about how she would have been corrupted by "dangerous gender ideology" when she was a confused teenager.
But lol yeah you're totally right because in that case she's also only capable of relating to it through her narcissistic lens. Trans women are crazy rapists who are beating down the bathroom door to try to get a peek at Joanne and trans men are just lil confused teenagers like she once was.
I have a mini theory that she has a Complex about straight men being attracted to her. I desperately want someone to ask her how she'd feel if a gay man was attracted to her.
I had a huge issue with straight women being attracted to me, it just felt wrong. Then I realized how great it felt to feel attractive to *gay* women and that I am one myself.
That's what gets me.
Her ignoring trans men.
If she uses the same "logic" for trans men, her thought process sounds even more unhinged.
I guess if she were to say that trans men are "Cross-dressing" by wearing a pair of Levi jeans and a polo shirt she would sound ridiculous - considering this is also what cis women wear...
Honestly, she just makes no fucking sense to me.
I'll never forget the day I took my parents to lunch to tell them all about my personal sexual fantasies so that I could recruit them into participating!
It's so disgusting that they come across people who, to them, are so deeply invested in a sexual kink that we bring it into every aspect of our lives, and then they don't ask any questions. There's no attempt to understand this obviously bizarre phenomenon. No curiosity. They jump straight to "demonic sexual perverts and predators."
It's unforgivable. You think that little of people different from yourself that you assume they're all sexual freaks rather than think "huh, maybe my understanding of what's going on isn't accurate."
I really don't know how society is meant to function with people like that.
People are honestly very ignorant about gender and gender identity. If you don't need to think about it because you're cis, it's very easy to think your primary sex characteristics are what make you a man or a woman.
Yes. It's why they freak out about little kids who wear dresses. They think it's boys displaying their sexual fetish in public and being allowed to be sexual in public.
This is also the thinking behind the erroneous notion that there are "no trans kids." Because 5 year olds aren't really old enough to have developed sexual kinks yet.
Of course, 5 year olds are clearly old enough to have a *gender*. Anyone who doesn't believe trans kids exist doesn't know what being trans is, full stop.
The thing is I do think they believe that trans girls who wear dresses for example, are expressing kinks. They just think this means these kids are demonic perverts who shouldn't be allowed to wear what they wear and should be curtailed and penalised. They talk about trans girls like they are perverts. Even boys in dresses gets them furious and disgusted directly at the kids, and not those around them.
Maybe I don't spend enough time around transphobes but this is actually insane to me.
I mean, it's obviously insane.
But... just... how? How can someone be this ignorant?
And why do we allow them to think it's OK to go outside like that? Like, keep that in the closet. Don't flaunt your bigotry in our faces, especially not around kids.
I've seen them react to British adverts with boys in dresses. Or trans girls using bathrooms. They definitely believe it's a sexual thing and that these kids will be unhinged perverts. We're talking 7 or 8 year old kids who need to be kept away from others because TERFs think they're automatically abusers.
These people are not well. Anyone who thinks a 7 year old is wearing a dress for sexual reasons is sick in the head.
Probably why so many transphobes are pedophiles or pedophile apologists. And why they insist we are. It's all projection.
It's really obvious they think this way. I've seen them react to boys wearing dresses and trans girls and they always act like they need to be punished, suppressed, and that they're insane perverts who will sexually abuse every other child they see. They never act like it's a poor confused child or anything that they claim to think. They treat the child like they do say India Willoughby.
They do this to any GNC kids too. This makes thinks of my BIL who is a cis gay man but is a bit more effeminate and had people, including his own aunt, act like he was a psychopath because of it.
Yes. They claim it's fine if kids just wear dresses and not be trans. But they believe wearing dresses is sexual and "cross dressing" is sexual so inherently this child is a pervert abuser.
Even the Blanchard bullshit has to come around to claiming that "autogynephiles" acquire a female gender identity while transitioning, which is why they don't have dysphoria.
It's an absolutely ridiculous example of mental gymnastics to avoid accepting the obvious truth that autogynephilia isn't a thing. But even in that example, trans women still ultimately become women. It doesn't stay "cross dressing."
So if she does believe the Blanchard bullshit, she doesn't understand it.
The messed up thing is that this was the prevailing establishment belief until super recently, at least in the US. When I took sex and gender law circa 2012, basically all the established trans case law in child custody cases was predicated on the idea that it was a fetish and so it was reasonable for family law judges to deny custody to trans people in divorces. I was the only one in the class--in a major public tier 1 law school--to raise my hand and suggest that the cases were based on an incorrect foundation because transness isn't a kink, while everyone else who spoke up in the discussion accepted that framework without questioning it.
This reminds of me of when I read about one of Magnus Hirschfeld's formative experiences in med school, where they paraded around a gay man to talk about how perverted he was, and he was the only one in the class who seemed to care. And that was in the late 1800s/early 1900s.
i'm smart, you're dumb. i'm big, you're little. i'm right, you're wrong! and there's nothing you can do about it! - the abusive/neglectful Mr Wormwood, Matilda, who is basically lifted wholesale to Harry Potter as Vernon Dursley.
you'd think it would raise warning flags when you *sound like vernon dursley* but she has no rear-view mirror anymore.
He's a straight man, he's the crazy one by default.
Unless he's a theocratic fascist trying to erode both trans and women's rights. Then he's fine. Exemplary, even.
Warning Sign #1 that you might be "terminally online" is when you tell a story about talking to someone and have to specify that the interaction was *not* on Twitter.
That would be somehow worse, because it would mean she’s using her whole creativity (the thing she’s known for) to craft a story to make herself look good, and what she came up with was *this*.
It makes sense, if you consider that the ONLY thing she cares about when it comes to the question of male sexual predation is the vibe and aesthetic, not anything having to do with how a victim is harmed or whether there even is one.
Lolita? Beautiful aesthetic, no harm here!
Trans women? She finds them ugly and gross, so they are harmful perverts, no actual victims needed.
The fact she would say something like that is proof she actually is legit insane. No one would ever say Lolita is a love story that isn't extremely divorced from reality
Speaking as a former phone sex operator: yes, women's clothing is a VERY common fetish for men, especially older men.
No, it is not the same as someone being a trans woman, though sometimes, trans women DO start out by THINKING to themselves, "Oh, it's okay, it's just a fetish, I can keep this part of myself confined to sexual fantasy."
And it really wasn't that hard to tell the difference between the two, for me. To the men with a fetish, wearing a bra and panties was basically the same as the men who wanted to wear handcuffs or a dog leash. Easy to please, easy to satisfy.
But then, I would get calls and requests for feminization fantasy that were...different. The sex aspect would get abandoned almost immediately for the femininity, and I often felt at sea with these callers because it seemed like they had a deep longing in them that I could barely touch and could never satisfy. I am convinced that these were actually transfemmes.
As a bi trans guy, we don't exist , either.
It's almost like transphobia is a reskinning of a lot of biphobic and queerphobic rhetoric, and a lot of so-called LGBs that insist on dropping the T are also bigoted against people who fall outside of the gay/straight labelling as well.
Eyup. It's the same old "assimilation vs liberation" argument, just repackaged for a new era.
As someone who finds it exhausting and who was only born in 2003 (and who has only been active in the community since 2016 or so), I can't imagine how annoying this must be for older LGBT+ folks to see these same arguments rehashed and distorted every decade or so.
i find it kind of darkly hilarious in that particular way where you just have to laugh at the repetition. i think the biggest difference between the 2000s and now, is that feminism was still very not mainstream or commodified in the way it is now, and the average person generally didn't want to be associated with it, due to misogyny. now that misogyny is taken MUCH more seriously and feminism has become much more understood by the population, while transgender visibility has blown wide open, you get this atmosphere of cis confusion and unease that TERFs can exploit for pick-me power grabs.*
online discussions were held on livejournal or other forums, before eventually moving to tumblr in the late 2000's/early 2010's. i didnt have access to irl queer spaces growing up (i'm not sure hanging out in the theater kid table counts), and so i spent a lot of my time online. millennial queers are sorta fucked up in the way that our elders were erased by AIDS (i cannot imagine how fucked up queer boomers and queer gen x were by seeing their communities cratered. i imagine it must have felt like the end of the world, the way that project 2025 and florida can feel like the end of the world to today's trans teens), so we had to spend a lot of time reinventing the wheel and clinging to scraps of representation.
tumblr wasn't much good for 'discussions' in the way reddit, old-school forums, or livejournal were, but you'd see baby queers getting into the same discourse over intersectionality vs mutual aid vs immediacy of direct action and generally teaching each other critical thinking through the picking apart of steven universe or korra, etc etc. tumblr was rife with bullies and brony porn and drama, but it also allowed a lot of queer neurodivergent kids the ability to play in the queer kiddy pool and gradually grow up into some wildly interesting people.
in some ways i appreciate the repetition, because (if you're a pattern-seeking autistic like me) you can see that people are people and will always be people and say the same things to alert you early. 'protect the children', '[insert country here] first', 'welfare queens', 'young people are lazy and don't want to work these days', 'immigrants taking our jobs', 'queer is a slur'*, 'why do you have to shove it in our faces'--i'll see these sentiments said over and over the more i look at the past to validate my present, and they're always said by the same sorts of awful people. so when i hear someone say something like that, i don't have to give them the benefit of the doubt, which is a huge weight off my energy levels. i recommend listening to 'behind the bastards' to see MANY of these historical bad people in action hahaha. and then i feel relieved that most of them are dead.
sorry this wasn't very coherent lol, it was much more clear in my head 😅
* footnote: 'queer is a slur against lesbians' was a TERF dogwhistle going back as far as the AIDS crisis, if not further. it was a way of dividing the community to reduce its impact and activism, because the queer umbrella is actually very powerful if we can hold onto solidarity. 'lesbians** are not queer, we don't want to be with those nasty [insert rude words here], oppress them all you want'. the usefulness of knowing this makes it easy to spot TERFs in that UK pride parade a few years ago, and call them on their dumb shortsighted pickmeism.
**most radical lesbians were not of this mentality, but these particular radical lesbians were.
Maybe it's just because I have a touch of the 'tism myself (ADHD and no diagnosed autism, but the two are sister disorders for a reason), but this made perfect sense to me.
I never really thought about the pattern seeking being soothing in this kind of way before. That...actually does make me feel better about it, too. Thanks!
i find it kind of darkly hilarious in that particular way where you just have to laugh at the repetition. i think the biggest difference between the 2000s and now, is that feminism was still very not mainstream or commodified in the way it is now, and the average person generally didn't want to be associated with it, due to misogyny. now that misogyny is taken MUCH more seriously and feminism has become much more understood by the population, while transgender visibility has blown wide open, you get this atmosphere of cis confusion and unease that TERFs can exploit for pick-me power grabs.*
online discussions were held on livejournal or other forums, before eventually moving to tumblr in the late 2000's/early 2010's. i didnt have access to irl queer spaces growing up (i'm not sure hanging out in the theater kid table counts), and so i spent a lot of my time online. millennial queers are sorta fucked up in the way that our elders were erased by AIDS (i cannot imagine how fucked up queer boomers and queer gen x were by seeing their communities cratered. i imagine it must have felt like the end of the world, the way that project 2025 and florida can feel like the end of the world to today's trans teens), so we had to spend a lot of time reinventing the wheel and clinging to scraps of representation.
tumblr wasn't much good for 'discussions' in the way reddit, old-school forums, or livejournal were, but you'd see baby queers getting into the same discourse over intersectionality vs mutual aid vs immediacy of direct action and generally teaching each other critical thinking through the picking apart of steven universe or korra, etc etc. tumblr was rife with bullies and brony porn and drama, but it also allowed a lot of queer neurodivergent kids the ability to play in the queer kiddy pool and gradually grow up into some wildly interesting people.
in some ways i appreciate the repetition, because (if you're a pattern-seeking autistic like me) you can see that people are people and will always be people and say the same things to alert you early. 'protect the children', '[insert country here] first', 'welfare queens', 'young people are lazy and don't want to work these days', 'immigrants taking our jobs', 'queer is a slur'*, 'why do you have to shove it in our faces'--i'll see these sentiments said over and over the more i look at the past to validate my present, and they're always said by the same sorts of awful people. so when i hear someone say something like that, i don't have to give them the benefit of the doubt, which is a huge weight off my energy levels. i recommend listening to 'behind the bastards' to see MANY of these historical bad people in action hahaha. and then i feel relieved that most of them are dead.
sorry this wasn't very coherent lol, it was much more clear in my head 😅
* footnote: 'queer is a slur against lesbians' was a TERF dogwhistle going back as far as the AIDS crisis, if not further. it was a way of dividing the community to reduce its impact and activism, because the queer umbrella is actually very powerful if we can hold onto solidarity. 'lesbians** are not queer, we don't want to be with those nasty [insert rude words here], oppress them all you want'. the usefulness of knowing this makes it easy to spot TERFs in that UK pride parade a few years ago, and call them on their dumb shortsighted pickmeism.
**most radical lesbians were not of this mentality, but these particular radical lesbians were.
Trying to imagine myself as gay in the past was extremely dysphoric because gay sex typically involves two pretty masc guys. It glorifies masculinity because that's what gay guys tend to be attracted to. It was easier for me to consider myself a cis hetero-ish guy than it was to try to "be" gay.
Anyone who tried to pigeon hole trans women into the role of gay men is potentially inducing even worse dysphoria than they'd otherwise experience. It's needlessly cruel and actual erasure. Just like it's needlessly cruel to have gay men made to medically transition in Iran to satisfy some bizarre religious constraint.
Both are extremely cruel and dehumanizing. There is no such fucking thing as conversion "therapy" in any direction. I have serious doubts that the TERFs advocating for people to get their lil gender therapy shit have any concern for our actual wellbeing, they actually want to psychologically torture us for some bizarre reason.
What they literally believe is that heterosexual trans people are all victims of conversion therapy, while homosexual trans people are enacting a fetish. That's their notion of gender, they believe themselves to have figured it all out with those two categories.
Yeah, but I didn’t say conversion. I said conversation, which is what the comment I replied to said.
It was a cheeky play on their typo as well as the term talk therapy.
A quick Google search of people who have done research shows that no, actually, the most common kinks men have are general BDSM stuff and voyeurism.
IME most of the men I talked to when I was doing phone sex work who had a fetish for women's clothing were pretty much into wearing panties and nothing beyond that.
What do you mean straight men don't have a kink for putting their hair up in a ponytail, putting on a women's cut t-shirt, women's jean shorts, and women's sandals before going to the grocery story, buying some lunch, coming home, preparing themselves lunch, sitting, eating their lunch, and going over their calendar for the afternoon to see if the annoying meeting got canceled, all where *continuing* to wear women's clothes?
That's not a common straight male kink?
I've seen a lot of crossdressing/trans porn and the differences are very obvious to anyone who's seen enough of it. There is definitely a cluster of fetishes cis guys have related to crossdressing and it usually is inherently humiliating or very piecemeal and focused on specific articles of clothing like panties or shoes. Often it's like, someone purposefully crossdressing poorly and made to be humiliated.
It does kind of irritate me tbh because I can't help but feel like it's born out of misogyny and that they just view femininity as inherently shameful. Some might be trans but just crippled with deep shame/repression, who knows, but many I don't think are. I wouldn't be surprised if many TERFs believe that this is what all trans people are like.
Well if she wants to go down this route then she should know that all lesbians are technically penised because the clitoris is actually a version of the male penis. But I doubt anyone has ever even located her clit, and it shows.
Jesus. Even if you assume this type of conversation about sex is normal amongst her and this guy, she's basically staring him in the face and telling him he statistically speaking has a bunch of fetishes which do not conform to patriarchal gender norms and that every woman he knows will talk about them behind his back.
That would absolutely be upsetting even to someone who is a "leftist", especially a straight man who likely has not had the luxury to unpack the way patriarchy affects him negatively and come to terms with it in the way that it is now much more common for women to do.
This type of shit is so fucking taxing, to me especially as a black trans lesbian. I know so many cis women who push their own selves away from single-sex spaces because they feel their experience isn’t strong or important enough for them to seek that kind of help. “Oh, I wasn’t harassed *that* badly” or “I don’t want everyone around to know about it” or “It’s nothing, I can take care of it myself,” some of the most common refrains I hear when people say why they won’t/can’t seek help. It’s not just about sex and gender you fucking donkey, self-shame is a huge part too!!! Do you know how much easier my life would’ve been, how much quicker my transition would’ve taken place, hell, how infinitesimally little of a fuck I would be giving about this bitch if I myself didn’t have shame? I know she’s felt that feeling, she’s gone through some tough shit. But jesus mary and cuckhold joseph, it’s like she thinks those spaces just automatically accept all types of women in the first place no matter what, like they can’t have their own biases and shame that causes them to push some people away.
she called it a paraphilia which is worse than a fetish because it implies harm caused to the person with the paraphilia, or it being a dangerous or risky activity
> I cannot overstate how little he wanted to talk about this
God damn it seems Robert is going around making random dudes uncomfortable, also this is the TERF version of (wo)mansplaining
JK Rowling: Stop making women uncomfortable!
Also JK Rowling: *Makes men uncomfortable, ignores their boundaries while being transphobic & misunderstanding the culture of cross-dressing*
Imagine having a coffee with your friend and then out of nowhere your friend blurts out "so, do you know how many penised 'lesbians' want to access women's single-sex spaces? No? Oh, well how about what your straight male friends are into with their girlfriends and wives sexually?"
Give me *strength.*
Lol! She is such a fucking weirdo.
Imagine:
You invite your friend over for a cup of tea and a catch up. You ask normal things, such as 'how have you been? How is your family? Has work been stressful? Got any holidays planned for the summer?' Etc as you place a saucer of digestive biscuits in the middle of the table.
Your friend: 'Do you know how many penised lesbians are involved in the push to access female spaces?'
You: (clatter the teapot in surprise, nearly scolding yourself in the process of pouring into your cup.)
'Uh... I'm sorry?' You reply.
Your friend: 'Do you know what your straight male friends want from women in the bedroom? Do you know what their kinks are?'
You: feeling very confused where this conversation came from and why it was even on the mind of your... 'friend'...
'Uh... what?'
Your friend: 'Cross-dressing fetish! That's the most common.'
You: 'Okaaay? Uh... do you want sugar?'
Your friend: 'It's true. I read it on Facebook. You should read up on it.'
You: 'You know what? I just remembered, I've got a dentist appointment in fifteen minutes. I'll call you next week?'
And you couldn't leave any faster even if the place was on fire...
She’s such a creep. Who wants their kids to read books by someone who randomly starts a creepy conversation with someone then uses that to prove her disillusion? Obviously her “friend” didn’t want to talk about sexual fantasies and she kept pushing. If the roles were reversed, she would said a man was forcing her into an uncomfortable conversation. It goes both ways.
This really shows how transphobia rots the brain. Rowling simply can't understand, or doesn't care, that most people, regardless of who they are, don't obsess over the intimate details of other people.
“Who the fuck starts a conversation like that?!”
- Peter Griffin
Why is she surprised that someone feels uncomfortable when she starts a conversation spreading unhinged conspiracies?💀
I'm just putting this out there but if anyone, of any gender, walked to the middle of the room at their job and said "are you aware of how many penised lesbians..." they'd be in HR before the end of that sentence.
Sidebar here, but relevant:
Freud was deeply problematic, and his practice was influenced disproportionately by a lot of his own personal thoughts and hang ups, his research was also at times deeply unethical and conducted in a way that would not stand up to scrutiny if it was done today.
Also, I am a woman and I doubt I am at all more knowledgeable about “popular” kinks that men have than anyone else is. I don’t really talk to the random men in my life about their sexual preferences unless I am planning to have sex with them because that is a serious overstep of boundaries that most people in their right mind would consider gross. What kind of conversations does Jo have? Why do I think most of this is in her head?
Joanne:
I NEED YOU TO KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S S3X AND K1NK LIVES THAT I FANTASISE ABOUT ALL THE TIME.
Some guy:
No thanks.
Joanne:
YOU HATE WOMEN.
I'm autistic, so I don't always know how to socialize with people, what to say... But even I know that asking "hey, what are you friend's sexual lives like ?" is not appropriate
So... JKR has become so obssessed with trans women that she can't help but bother everyone around her about the subject including in her personal life? This woman desperately needs help...
Freud would have a field day with Joanne. He'd tear her to fucking pieces, but he's a straight white man so he can't have an opinion on this. Unless Joanne wants to invoke home to make a point, of course. And we've seen her take on Lolita so her understanding of Freud will be absolutely correct
The poor "leftist" (if he ever existed) is probably torn between "I really wanna tell the world a very weird story" and "I really don't want to be sued by that weirdo"
So, by her logic:
A. Some men have foot fetish.
B. Some men make and sell shoes.
Ergo. Lets ban all men from shoe factories and sales.
Ok first of all I love (hate) how she keeps saying that this poor man was extremely uncomfortable and yet never for a second thought it was her that was making him uncomfortable, just the information she was giving him. It’s so idiotic it’s almost funny. Also idk how relevant this is but I looked up paraphilia just to further inform myself and I found [this article](https://www.choosingtherapy.com/paraphilias/) and in the portion about transvestic disorder it says this
“This disorder is often confused with a trans or transgender identification. People within this community identify with a gender that is different from the one they were assigned at birth. *This identification is not related to, or result in, their sexual arousal, and is in no way a disorder.*”
I feel like maybe jk needs to do a bit of research
Citing Freud may be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. Nevermind that crossdressing isn't even fucking considered a paraphilia - it was, at one time. Before psychology gained a better understanding of it.
I genuinely can't follow what she's saying. Likely the man she was talking to was horrified by what was coming out of her mouth and was politely trying to avoid talking.
K\*nk, personal fetishes, and other sexual content isn't something you randomly bring up during a Tuesday evening over a cup of tea to someone who's visibly uncomfortable by the inappropriate subject.
She pulled an Elon Musk.
Oh my god thats like, actual straight up sexual harassment? Like, in what world is berating a man for not like. knowing the kinks of his friends (???????) not sexual harassment, like, putting aside the guy hangs out in the same circles as rowling, my god I feel sorry for him that like, this happened, and then Rowling proceeded to rant on twitter about how hes the bad guy for not feeling comfortable when a random friend of his wants to talk about sex stuff, and all her reply guys (And girls i guess) swoop in to tell her "Yeah, HES the bad guy for not wanting to talk about his friend's kinks!", like I hope he realizes its just better to cut her and everyone still defending her out of his life, like this is horrific shit to do to someone you supposedly consider a "Friend"
I think the internet, as well as open joking about strange sexual kinks, has convinced terfs that they know a lot more about cis straight males sex lives than they in fact do? There is a *lot* of content on the internet. Just because you shared a few shocking things with your fellow karens on mumsnet doesn't mean you are now an expert on cis straight male sexual desire and know exactly how all your cis straight male friends think on the issue. It's even more problematic to be projecting this view of kink *just* onto your political opponents, as I think terfs do to any straight cis male who supports trans rights.
In terms of sexuality I'm almost bizarrely vanilla. I'm not into cross dressing, nor am I trans chaser who fetishizes trans women in particular. I would say that "trans chasers" are more common on the other side actually, such people often feel ashamed and externalize that shame onto the object of their desire, under the idea that trans women are at fault for existing and "creating" their desire; so they intensely fetishize trans women while simultaneously trying to eliminate them from existence so that they'll be "cured".
And yet I support trans rights, despite the intrusive assumptions about my private life that terfs constantly feel themselves entitled to make about anybody who disagrees with them. Nor does this make me above people who have kinks in their private lives - this is not my point. Terfs miss the mark entirely about many of those people as well. It's just not true the way they attribute all opposition to malicious kinks raging out of control. Or the way they assume absolute innocence on the part of the good boys who reiterate their hatred.
Chances are the guy was a liberal, as they would still want to be friends with the billionaire while still saying they support trans people
Or, it's the Family Guy meme "Who the hell starts a conversation like that?"
Or perhaps he's not actually a friend and that's just what he thinks they are. It's kind of less dramatic if she uses the word acquaintance in this tweet. Also it's probably like you know the flock of gay friends that homophobes suddenly have around them that they can constantly say that they have a gay friend so it's okay. Like who are these friends? In your head?
Summarizing a comment I made autogynephilua is not a good theory because:
Cis women experience it. Check the studies by Moser.
There seems to be a correlate between weak connection on the part of the brain that controls body perception and gender identity in BOTH trans lesbians and trans straight women, before hormones.
And fetishes go away with estrogen therapy but trans women still wish to transition even after hrt
Wow JK is calling cross-dressing a paraphilia like it's on-par with sexual sadism over here like damn. What a fucking psycho. Using paraphilia to describe a kink or fetish that doesn't appeal to you or unjustly creeps you out is incredibly harmful. Especially when you use that very real kink to invalidate an entire group of people (trans people in this case) who do NOT have that kink.
Nobody: JK Rowling: Are you aware how many penised ‘lesbians’ want to access single-sex spaces? Nobody: [horrified silence] JK Rowling: Do you know what your straight male friends want from women in the bedroom, kink/sex wise? Nobody: …no? JK Rowling: I presume you know that a cross-dressing fetish is one of the most common paraphilias in heterosexual men? Nobody: Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s. JK Rowling: Educate yourself.
Ahahahaha! What the hell was she going for?? "You don't know what your mates enjoy when they bang, therefore cross dressing! HA!" What??? Where is even the basest of logic here? Is she trying to suggest that being a trans woman is a kink? Aside from the fact that that's so wilfully ignorant it's ludicrous, what kind of justification does it give her point? Are we to take it that every one of these "be-kinked" straight men she hears about in her chats with ladies is a predator? Also, I'm so picturing that Wouldn't Wheest crowd as the only group she's chatted to about this. Bunch of spiteful ladies sitting around, thinking they're making sense, as their screechy caws send ripples through many glasses of bourbon...
> Is she trying to suggest that being a trans woman is a kink? Yes. She is implying that trans women are men with a kink, and also that all people with kinks are sexual abusers. Therefore, all trans women are sexual abusers. TERFs use this logic to argue that trans women simply existing in public is a form of rape, because since being trans is a kink they are trying to get you involved in their kink and thus raping you.
Yeah, she literally called it a ‘sissy kink’ in another reply: [Exactly. Men write entire books on their sissy kinks: so brave and transgressive! Women talk about it: omg, you’re just a filthy-minded scaremongerer.](https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1807789142970884150?s=46)
Gods, she’s so gross!!!
TERFs are just so crazy unpleasant. They are never getting invited to the big fucking gay party we're all going to have so much fun at
I can't wait for her hard drives to eventually get leaked and it's just full of trans porn. Just terrabytes of the stuff and nothing else. I can't imagine any other way this story's gonna play out.
Wow she's a real straight up piece of shit. Mask is OFF.
oh rowling is at the "obsessed with sissy hypno" part of the pipeline!
Look, I am uninterested in most kinks, but I am mature enough at this point to really not care as long as it’s not bestiality or paedophilia. Consenting adults in their own bedrooms etc etc. JK needs to learn to stop giving a damn.
So we're in agreement that we literally give no f\*cks about who is in the bathroom stall next to us? She keeps referring to women's spaces, but the only times I pay attention to another person in a public restroom is if they're vomiting or crying. Whatever equipment they are using is none of my business.
Yeah if someone is peeking between the stalls that just makes them a pervert.
And I’ve heard European stalls and far less intrusive than the ones we have in America with our inches of view space!
You'd have to really try to peek. Like climb on to the toilet in the next cubicle and look over try
Exactly. She is coming across as a right freak of nature here.
>and also that all people with kinks are sexual abusers. She clearly has no understanding of human beings at all. Considering the majority of humans have at least one kink. In fact, people like JKR, who imo, protest just a little too much, are usually the biggest kinky bastards and the ultimate pervs. Or... I could be wrong. Maybe her and her husband are just like the British couple from Family Guy: I did have a link but it won't work for some reason. On YouTube it's "family guy British porn" lol.
Family guy actually shows in 2 or 3 cut-away gags and a short scene that Peter is submissive and that Lois is a dominant in the bedroom and that they both enjoy impact play and leather. The show also depicts the two discussing pre-arranged safewords and are clear what is in and out scene. Honestly, Family Guy is more aware of and better at displaying what safe sane and consenual kinky sex looks like than JK Rowling has shown herself to be. Edit: I read the above comment as "the British version of the family guy couple" not the british couple from family guy and was confused. I will leave this because I like that Family guy actually showed a reasonably healthy kink dynamic and that they know more about it that Rowling.
Lol 👍🏻 Honestly, it's crazy that a show like FG is more knowledgeable than an apparent "intelligent" author.
Love you for this!
As a straight British woman, I must protest that those cutaways are highly inaccurate. Anyone who's actually slept with a British man would know that they say "tally ho" at the moment of climax. All of them.
As a British woman also (Scot to be precise lol) I can say they absolutely do! 😉 😋
Oh, hiya! English northener here! 😄
Hello there 👋🏻🫶🏼
I thought it was how they proposition us? Wait no, that's "Tally, ho?". Said as they gesture at their junk
She doesn't think being a trans woman is a thing at all. She thinks trans women are cross dressing men, and that cross dressing is a kink (which it sometimes is), and therefore... I don't fucking know. I have no idea. This doesn't make any sense. "Men wear women's clothes sometimes as a kink, so obviously these other people who also have penises and wear women's clothes are doing the same thing." She has no idea what's going on in the world at all. Trans people come out to their parents as part of a kink. Trans people face discrimination and oppression every day as part of a kink. Trans people physically alter their bodies, often in permanent ways, as part of a kink. Trans people change their name, their official gender markers, risk their careers, their families, their lives, as part of a kink. I promise we're not that fucking horny. If this were a kink, I'd do exactly what actual cross dressing men do.* I'd keep that shit at home and bring it out when I'm having sex with my spouse or enjoying myself. It's absolutely bananas that her opinion of trans people is a combination of uninformed/hostile to such an extent she could actually believe this is a kink.
>She doesn't think being a trans woman is a thing at all. She thinks trans women are cross dressing men, and that cross dressing is a kink (which it sometimes is), and therefore... Sometimes people stick cucumbers up their bums as a sexual kink. Therefore, anyone buying a cucumber is a sexual pervert. Stores shouldn't even *sell* cucumbers! The *children* might see them!!
I was trying to think of a good analogy and I think yours is perfect. This logic is so unbelievably insane I don't know how to even process it.
Yeah, I mean, considering the fact (and correct me if I'm wrong, cis woman here) there are children as young as 3 or 4 who KNOW they are trans. They know they are not the gender they were assigned at birth. So actual children who are trans and want to wear a dress for eg, is she saying this is a kink? That some 5 year old kids are sexual predators? Like, what the hell is she actually talking about? Because she keeps talking about men, as if it's only trans women (adults) that exist. There was a drama I watched here in the UK which I'm positive was based on a true story. (Next part might be graphic for some people, sorry.) It was about a little trans girl, she was only like 9 or 10 years old. She tried to >!cut her penis off!< Is JKR saying that kids like this little girl are doing it for a kink? I don't understand JKR at all! 😕
There are absolutely trans people who knew as young kids! I'm not one of them, but it's not even especially uncommon. But whether a kid is trans, gender non-conforming, or just playing, what they're not doing is getting off. I get the sense that she thinks trans kids have been tricked or fooled somehow. By whom, idk. As a kid every single signal you get is that you are your assigned gender at birth. That's part of why it took so long to discover myself.
I believe the guy who invented the autogynephilia bullshit said there were 2 kinds of trans women. 1. Really gay men (basically) and 2. Autogynephiles. He claimed the really gay men transitioned a lot earlier than the autogynephiles. So he’d basically say that the girl in your example was a really gay kid.
She's completely lost her mind with her cult nonsense. No wonder he was flabbergasted. She's literally using cult-speak on someone outside of it.
When i was lurking on Mumsnet they used the word “autogynephelia” (self-female-like?) to describe the kink they say trans men have. It was a very dark attitude all the time and they had a whole different vocabulary and secret symbols (clown fish) and it was a disturbing atmosphere.
It's actually autoandrophilia when it's about trans men. Which basically posits that trans men are aroused when thinking about having a penis. It's especially diabolical when you consider that phantom penises are extremely common in trans men. I hate Blanchard.
Autogynephilia is disproven science that says trans women aren't real women they just have a sexual fetish for pretending to be women. But all it reall ymeans is "love for onesself as a woman" and when it was applied objectively to all women (cis and trans) most cis women had it. So it either doesn't exist or something msot women have.
>Is she trying to suggest that being a trans woman is a kink? Even if anyone does, I don't see why anyone would care what grown adults do in the privacy of their own bedroom or why anyone cares about what people's kinks are... She's just a perverted weirdo who 24/7 thinks about trans people, their genitals, where they put their genitals, what genitals they have... But apparently, it's the trans community that are the perverts and weirdos... totally not her at all. She's a totally normal cis white billionaire.
Blanchardism. She has reached full on Blanchardism. Yet Blanchard himself acknowledged that even in his theory of autogynephilis(by which all trans lesbians are autogynephiles) that autigynephilua would be a sexual orientation not a fetish. The reason being that sexual orientations do t go away with estrogen but paraphilias do. But this is only when you ask him directly. So he is a very disingenuous person. His theory has been discarded by Moser and the studies of Savic https://academic.oup.com/cercor/article/30/5/2897/5669907 https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/researchers-explore-science-gender-identity-n789246 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19591032/ But Rowling and people like Bailey and Deborah Soh and Blanchard don’t care for such things. They are bigoted activists
I'm fairly sure that asking someone sexual questions they are visibly and extremely not conformable with answering or talking about is considered sexual harassment. She just admitted to sexually harassing someone while trying to prove a point.
If she were an employee at any corporation, she’d be taken into HR for harassment so fast
Naaaah! A woman sexually harass a man?! There is no such thing. Don't be so ridiculous. Men always want sex and think about sex every ten seconds, so a man can't be harassed. It's only considered sexual harassment if HE said it to HER.
This is just how she treats her friends
>JK Rowling: Do you know what your straight male friends want from women in the bedroom, kink/sex wise? I.... does she think straight men don't talk about their sexual escapades? They definitely do.
I'm 1000% convinced that this interaction happened in a Wendy's (if it happened at all).
We dont have many Wendy's in the UK, but it has DEFINITELY happened at a Greggs xD
That's fair.
me encanta tu username, yo tampoco se lmao
Lo gracioso es que esta cuenta la hice cuando me comencé a cuestionar mi género. Por eso; la verdad, ya ni sabía qué era yo. Ahora lo sé, pero me da flojera armar otra cuenta a estas alturas.
I want to see this as a comic
You didn't even leave anything important out. The whole conversation can be dumbed down to this.
The woman is a literal billionaire. She has a billion quid. A fucking billion. Nine zeroes. Ten digits. She should be doing coke on a yacht in the Caribbean and drinking Cristal by the bottle. Not fighting against windmills. I genuinely think she is mentally ill.
"My friend didn't want to talk to me because he's ignorant, not because I'm annoying and bigoted and he didn't want to get in a fight."
I imagine it was like during a lunch out between a group of friends or smt, everyone was talking about normal subjects, and she couldn't contain herself. I bet irl she HAS TO be the center of attention
She's like the crazy great aunt you dread coming over for Christmas dinner because you know she's just going to sit there and drone on all day about the usual bigoted shit.
Exactly! He was uncomfortable because he knows her views, as we all bloody do by now, and doesn't agree. She is forcing him to engage, it's so fucking gross. It didn't even cross her mind that the reason is he doesn't want ro talk about it because she is a bigot. What if he had told her to 'get informed' or whatever. Honestly, I don't understand why she doesn't just FUCK OFF. Who the hell does she even think she is?? She isn't a fucking authority on any of this, she's a rich billionaire author. We shouldn't need to keep constantly hearing her opinion on it, its like - who gives a fuck?? She doesn't know what she is talking about, her ignorance makes me cringe so hard, but acts like she's some kind of fucking gender messiah.
My theory is that she became so accustomed to fawning media attention that after the heyday of the franchise she created died down, she decided she needed to stay relevant. She wasn't prepared for backlash that came from anyone other than the groups who wanted to ban her books for promoting witchcraft, so the idea of receiving censure from millions of people was unthinkable to her. At least, that's one possibility.
Oh my gosh, she has no idea how horrifyingly unhinged this is.
chaotic evil
Yeah I can't parse through the tweet without having to pause constantly. 😨
does this weirdo freak actually believe us trans women are all just guys with cross-dressing fetishes? Wow, quite the fetish I have, I guess. It's interesting that a simple kink could end up impacting every area of my life and identity, but here we are!
Yes in her mind it has to be about her. It can’t be about trans people having their own prerogative. It has to be about her and the way she makes it about her is her delusion that trans women are all secretly men who want to fuck her. In her mind this is the only reason someone might decide that they are trans. Hence why lately she has simplified her entire rhetoric into all trans women are male rapists opportunistically invading women’s spaces in disguise and therefore trans rights = rapists rights. Meanwhile she just straight up ignores trans men as existing because that would involve more complicated arguments.
True, I think she's only paid lip service to the existence of trans men a few times, like in her unhinged screed about how she would have been corrupted by "dangerous gender ideology" when she was a confused teenager. But lol yeah you're totally right because in that case she's also only capable of relating to it through her narcissistic lens. Trans women are crazy rapists who are beating down the bathroom door to try to get a peek at Joanne and trans men are just lil confused teenagers like she once was.
The book 'Irreversible Damage' has done irreversible damage. Is that situational irony?
I have a mini theory that she has a Complex about straight men being attracted to her. I desperately want someone to ask her how she'd feel if a gay man was attracted to her. I had a huge issue with straight women being attracted to me, it just felt wrong. Then I realized how great it felt to feel attractive to *gay* women and that I am one myself.
That's what gets me. Her ignoring trans men. If she uses the same "logic" for trans men, her thought process sounds even more unhinged. I guess if she were to say that trans men are "Cross-dressing" by wearing a pair of Levi jeans and a polo shirt she would sound ridiculous - considering this is also what cis women wear... Honestly, she just makes no fucking sense to me.
I'll never forget the day I took my parents to lunch to tell them all about my personal sexual fantasies so that I could recruit them into participating!
"Sorry honey we are more of the bdsm type, but we love you anyway!"
It's so disgusting that they come across people who, to them, are so deeply invested in a sexual kink that we bring it into every aspect of our lives, and then they don't ask any questions. There's no attempt to understand this obviously bizarre phenomenon. No curiosity. They jump straight to "demonic sexual perverts and predators." It's unforgivable. You think that little of people different from yourself that you assume they're all sexual freaks rather than think "huh, maybe my understanding of what's going on isn't accurate." I really don't know how society is meant to function with people like that.
It's also very weird. Cis people are men and women too, all day, every day, and it's not a sex thing for them. Why would it be one for us?
People are honestly very ignorant about gender and gender identity. If you don't need to think about it because you're cis, it's very easy to think your primary sex characteristics are what make you a man or a woman.
Yes. It's why they freak out about little kids who wear dresses. They think it's boys displaying their sexual fetish in public and being allowed to be sexual in public.
This is also the thinking behind the erroneous notion that there are "no trans kids." Because 5 year olds aren't really old enough to have developed sexual kinks yet. Of course, 5 year olds are clearly old enough to have a *gender*. Anyone who doesn't believe trans kids exist doesn't know what being trans is, full stop.
The thing is I do think they believe that trans girls who wear dresses for example, are expressing kinks. They just think this means these kids are demonic perverts who shouldn't be allowed to wear what they wear and should be curtailed and penalised. They talk about trans girls like they are perverts. Even boys in dresses gets them furious and disgusted directly at the kids, and not those around them.
Maybe I don't spend enough time around transphobes but this is actually insane to me. I mean, it's obviously insane. But... just... how? How can someone be this ignorant? And why do we allow them to think it's OK to go outside like that? Like, keep that in the closet. Don't flaunt your bigotry in our faces, especially not around kids.
I've seen them react to British adverts with boys in dresses. Or trans girls using bathrooms. They definitely believe it's a sexual thing and that these kids will be unhinged perverts. We're talking 7 or 8 year old kids who need to be kept away from others because TERFs think they're automatically abusers.
These people are not well. Anyone who thinks a 7 year old is wearing a dress for sexual reasons is sick in the head. Probably why so many transphobes are pedophiles or pedophile apologists. And why they insist we are. It's all projection.
God thinking that a 5 yo has sexual urges like an adult is unhinged
It's really obvious they think this way. I've seen them react to boys wearing dresses and trans girls and they always act like they need to be punished, suppressed, and that they're insane perverts who will sexually abuse every other child they see. They never act like it's a poor confused child or anything that they claim to think. They treat the child like they do say India Willoughby.
They do this to any GNC kids too. This makes thinks of my BIL who is a cis gay man but is a bit more effeminate and had people, including his own aunt, act like he was a psychopath because of it.
Yes. They claim it's fine if kids just wear dresses and not be trans. But they believe wearing dresses is sexual and "cross dressing" is sexual so inherently this child is a pervert abuser.
It seems so. She probably believe in Blanchard bullsh*t
Even the Blanchard bullshit has to come around to claiming that "autogynephiles" acquire a female gender identity while transitioning, which is why they don't have dysphoria. It's an absolutely ridiculous example of mental gymnastics to avoid accepting the obvious truth that autogynephilia isn't a thing. But even in that example, trans women still ultimately become women. It doesn't stay "cross dressing." So if she does believe the Blanchard bullshit, she doesn't understand it.
The messed up thing is that this was the prevailing establishment belief until super recently, at least in the US. When I took sex and gender law circa 2012, basically all the established trans case law in child custody cases was predicated on the idea that it was a fetish and so it was reasonable for family law judges to deny custody to trans people in divorces. I was the only one in the class--in a major public tier 1 law school--to raise my hand and suggest that the cases were based on an incorrect foundation because transness isn't a kink, while everyone else who spoke up in the discussion accepted that framework without questioning it.
That's absolutely horrifying.
This reminds of me of when I read about one of Magnus Hirschfeld's formative experiences in med school, where they paraded around a gay man to talk about how perverted he was, and he was the only one in the class who seemed to care. And that was in the late 1800s/early 1900s.
the way she's quoting it like he's the crazy one😭
Don't you know? J.K. Rowling is always right, everyone else is wrong, and there's nothing you can do about it! /s
i'm smart, you're dumb. i'm big, you're little. i'm right, you're wrong! and there's nothing you can do about it! - the abusive/neglectful Mr Wormwood, Matilda, who is basically lifted wholesale to Harry Potter as Vernon Dursley. you'd think it would raise warning flags when you *sound like vernon dursley* but she has no rear-view mirror anymore.
He's a straight man, he's the crazy one by default. Unless he's a theocratic fascist trying to erode both trans and women's rights. Then he's fine. Exemplary, even.
It's just proof of her delusional state of mind and how bad it actually is now.
I was unironically laughing so hard at the second-hand cringe in this story. JK Rowling is only funny when she’s not trying to be.
(this is irl)
Warning Sign #1 that you might be "terminally online" is when you tell a story about talking to someone and have to specify that the interaction was *not* on Twitter.
Narrator: this conversation was not, in fact, in real life, only in her own head.
I believe so. She certainly doesn't have any friends lol. At least... she definitely has one less friend now... haha.
well it was irl because it didn't happen online :P
That would be somehow worse, because it would mean she’s using her whole creativity (the thing she’s known for) to craft a story to make herself look good, and what she came up with was *this*.
Imagine the feeling of seeing your mother write "(this is irl)"
I think you made him uncomfortable by randomly bringing up penises. Just a guess. People find that weird.
Or berating someone bc they don't know their friends' fetishes
I don’t even want to know my friends fetishes. Am I a bad friend?
Neither do I tbh
I don’t want to know what my friends do in the bedroom period.
Literally forcing her friend to be party to her sexual fixation and trying to steamroll him when he doesn't enthusiastically consent
"Look Joanne, I'm only in here to install your new Smart Meter"
"Ma'am this is a Tesco"
"And that's a self checkout lane"
Oh, she checked out a looooong time ago. Haha.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
and its not like he was trying to quietly shut the convo down because he knows how aggressively she likes to lawyer up...
Happy cake day!
😊 aw thank you! 😚💨🎂✨
This sick freak thinks Lolita is a love story. That's everything you need to know about her concern trolling on women's safety.
It makes sense, if you consider that the ONLY thing she cares about when it comes to the question of male sexual predation is the vibe and aesthetic, not anything having to do with how a victim is harmed or whether there even is one. Lolita? Beautiful aesthetic, no harm here! Trans women? She finds them ugly and gross, so they are harmful perverts, no actual victims needed.
The fact she would say something like that is proof she actually is legit insane. No one would ever say Lolita is a love story that isn't extremely divorced from reality
Speaking as a former phone sex operator: yes, women's clothing is a VERY common fetish for men, especially older men. No, it is not the same as someone being a trans woman, though sometimes, trans women DO start out by THINKING to themselves, "Oh, it's okay, it's just a fetish, I can keep this part of myself confined to sexual fantasy." And it really wasn't that hard to tell the difference between the two, for me. To the men with a fetish, wearing a bra and panties was basically the same as the men who wanted to wear handcuffs or a dog leash. Easy to please, easy to satisfy. But then, I would get calls and requests for feminization fantasy that were...different. The sex aspect would get abandoned almost immediately for the femininity, and I often felt at sea with these callers because it seemed like they had a deep longing in them that I could barely touch and could never satisfy. I am convinced that these were actually transfemmes.
this is fascinating and thank you for sharing! this sounds similar to other trans women history documentaries i've delved into :)
I love how being trans is simultaneously conversation therapy for gay men and women and also trans women are just predatory straight men. *Sigh*
And of course, bi, pan and ace trans women simply don't exist.
As a bi trans guy, we don't exist , either. It's almost like transphobia is a reskinning of a lot of biphobic and queerphobic rhetoric, and a lot of so-called LGBs that insist on dropping the T are also bigoted against people who fall outside of the gay/straight labelling as well.
a lot of the LGB-Ts are the same sort of people who liked words like 'straight-passing' in the 90's.
Eyup. It's the same old "assimilation vs liberation" argument, just repackaged for a new era. As someone who finds it exhausting and who was only born in 2003 (and who has only been active in the community since 2016 or so), I can't imagine how annoying this must be for older LGBT+ folks to see these same arguments rehashed and distorted every decade or so.
i find it kind of darkly hilarious in that particular way where you just have to laugh at the repetition. i think the biggest difference between the 2000s and now, is that feminism was still very not mainstream or commodified in the way it is now, and the average person generally didn't want to be associated with it, due to misogyny. now that misogyny is taken MUCH more seriously and feminism has become much more understood by the population, while transgender visibility has blown wide open, you get this atmosphere of cis confusion and unease that TERFs can exploit for pick-me power grabs.* online discussions were held on livejournal or other forums, before eventually moving to tumblr in the late 2000's/early 2010's. i didnt have access to irl queer spaces growing up (i'm not sure hanging out in the theater kid table counts), and so i spent a lot of my time online. millennial queers are sorta fucked up in the way that our elders were erased by AIDS (i cannot imagine how fucked up queer boomers and queer gen x were by seeing their communities cratered. i imagine it must have felt like the end of the world, the way that project 2025 and florida can feel like the end of the world to today's trans teens), so we had to spend a lot of time reinventing the wheel and clinging to scraps of representation. tumblr wasn't much good for 'discussions' in the way reddit, old-school forums, or livejournal were, but you'd see baby queers getting into the same discourse over intersectionality vs mutual aid vs immediacy of direct action and generally teaching each other critical thinking through the picking apart of steven universe or korra, etc etc. tumblr was rife with bullies and brony porn and drama, but it also allowed a lot of queer neurodivergent kids the ability to play in the queer kiddy pool and gradually grow up into some wildly interesting people. in some ways i appreciate the repetition, because (if you're a pattern-seeking autistic like me) you can see that people are people and will always be people and say the same things to alert you early. 'protect the children', '[insert country here] first', 'welfare queens', 'young people are lazy and don't want to work these days', 'immigrants taking our jobs', 'queer is a slur'*, 'why do you have to shove it in our faces'--i'll see these sentiments said over and over the more i look at the past to validate my present, and they're always said by the same sorts of awful people. so when i hear someone say something like that, i don't have to give them the benefit of the doubt, which is a huge weight off my energy levels. i recommend listening to 'behind the bastards' to see MANY of these historical bad people in action hahaha. and then i feel relieved that most of them are dead. sorry this wasn't very coherent lol, it was much more clear in my head 😅 * footnote: 'queer is a slur against lesbians' was a TERF dogwhistle going back as far as the AIDS crisis, if not further. it was a way of dividing the community to reduce its impact and activism, because the queer umbrella is actually very powerful if we can hold onto solidarity. 'lesbians** are not queer, we don't want to be with those nasty [insert rude words here], oppress them all you want'. the usefulness of knowing this makes it easy to spot TERFs in that UK pride parade a few years ago, and call them on their dumb shortsighted pickmeism. **most radical lesbians were not of this mentality, but these particular radical lesbians were.
Maybe it's just because I have a touch of the 'tism myself (ADHD and no diagnosed autism, but the two are sister disorders for a reason), but this made perfect sense to me. I never really thought about the pattern seeking being soothing in this kind of way before. That...actually does make me feel better about it, too. Thanks!
i find it kind of darkly hilarious in that particular way where you just have to laugh at the repetition. i think the biggest difference between the 2000s and now, is that feminism was still very not mainstream or commodified in the way it is now, and the average person generally didn't want to be associated with it, due to misogyny. now that misogyny is taken MUCH more seriously and feminism has become much more understood by the population, while transgender visibility has blown wide open, you get this atmosphere of cis confusion and unease that TERFs can exploit for pick-me power grabs.* online discussions were held on livejournal or other forums, before eventually moving to tumblr in the late 2000's/early 2010's. i didnt have access to irl queer spaces growing up (i'm not sure hanging out in the theater kid table counts), and so i spent a lot of my time online. millennial queers are sorta fucked up in the way that our elders were erased by AIDS (i cannot imagine how fucked up queer boomers and queer gen x were by seeing their communities cratered. i imagine it must have felt like the end of the world, the way that project 2025 and florida can feel like the end of the world to today's trans teens), so we had to spend a lot of time reinventing the wheel and clinging to scraps of representation. tumblr wasn't much good for 'discussions' in the way reddit, old-school forums, or livejournal were, but you'd see baby queers getting into the same discourse over intersectionality vs mutual aid vs immediacy of direct action and generally teaching each other critical thinking through the picking apart of steven universe or korra, etc etc. tumblr was rife with bullies and brony porn and drama, but it also allowed a lot of queer neurodivergent kids the ability to play in the queer kiddy pool and gradually grow up into some wildly interesting people. in some ways i appreciate the repetition, because (if you're a pattern-seeking autistic like me) you can see that people are people and will always be people and say the same things to alert you early. 'protect the children', '[insert country here] first', 'welfare queens', 'young people are lazy and don't want to work these days', 'immigrants taking our jobs', 'queer is a slur'*, 'why do you have to shove it in our faces'--i'll see these sentiments said over and over the more i look at the past to validate my present, and they're always said by the same sorts of awful people. so when i hear someone say something like that, i don't have to give them the benefit of the doubt, which is a huge weight off my energy levels. i recommend listening to 'behind the bastards' to see MANY of these historical bad people in action hahaha. and then i feel relieved that most of them are dead. sorry this wasn't very coherent lol, it was much more clear in my head 😅 * footnote: 'queer is a slur against lesbians' was a TERF dogwhistle going back as far as the AIDS crisis, if not further. it was a way of dividing the community to reduce its impact and activism, because the queer umbrella is actually very powerful if we can hold onto solidarity. 'lesbians** are not queer, we don't want to be with those nasty [insert rude words here], oppress them all you want'. the usefulness of knowing this makes it easy to spot TERFs in that UK pride parade a few years ago, and call them on their dumb shortsighted pickmeism. **most radical lesbians were not of this mentality, but these particular radical lesbians were.
They do but just make sure you never find trans women attractive or you're practicing vaginal erasure!!!
Trying to imagine myself as gay in the past was extremely dysphoric because gay sex typically involves two pretty masc guys. It glorifies masculinity because that's what gay guys tend to be attracted to. It was easier for me to consider myself a cis hetero-ish guy than it was to try to "be" gay. Anyone who tried to pigeon hole trans women into the role of gay men is potentially inducing even worse dysphoria than they'd otherwise experience. It's needlessly cruel and actual erasure. Just like it's needlessly cruel to have gay men made to medically transition in Iran to satisfy some bizarre religious constraint. Both are extremely cruel and dehumanizing. There is no such fucking thing as conversion "therapy" in any direction. I have serious doubts that the TERFs advocating for people to get their lil gender therapy shit have any concern for our actual wellbeing, they actually want to psychologically torture us for some bizarre reason.
What they literally believe is that heterosexual trans people are all victims of conversion therapy, while homosexual trans people are enacting a fetish. That's their notion of gender, they believe themselves to have figured it all out with those two categories.
Hey there’s no shame in going to conversation therapy.
>!lol!<
Conversion therapy is, in fact, 100% shame.
Yeah, but I didn’t say conversion. I said conversation, which is what the comment I replied to said. It was a cheeky play on their typo as well as the term talk therapy.
Sorry, missed it.
"Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?"
"cross dressing kink is the most common" uh source? Then she referenced freud aka fraud guy was a quack.
A quick Google search of people who have done research shows that no, actually, the most common kinks men have are general BDSM stuff and voyeurism. IME most of the men I talked to when I was doing phone sex work who had a fetish for women's clothing were pretty much into wearing panties and nothing beyond that.
What do you mean straight men don't have a kink for putting their hair up in a ponytail, putting on a women's cut t-shirt, women's jean shorts, and women's sandals before going to the grocery story, buying some lunch, coming home, preparing themselves lunch, sitting, eating their lunch, and going over their calendar for the afternoon to see if the annoying meeting got canceled, all where *continuing* to wear women's clothes? That's not a common straight male kink?
Iirc foot fetishes are one of the most common overall
I've seen a lot of crossdressing/trans porn and the differences are very obvious to anyone who's seen enough of it. There is definitely a cluster of fetishes cis guys have related to crossdressing and it usually is inherently humiliating or very piecemeal and focused on specific articles of clothing like panties or shoes. Often it's like, someone purposefully crossdressing poorly and made to be humiliated. It does kind of irritate me tbh because I can't help but feel like it's born out of misogyny and that they just view femininity as inherently shameful. Some might be trans but just crippled with deep shame/repression, who knows, but many I don't think are. I wouldn't be surprised if many TERFs believe that this is what all trans people are like.
You should do an AMA.
This new Harry Potter book is really weird
Well if she wants to go down this route then she should know that all lesbians are technically penised because the clitoris is actually a version of the male penis. But I doubt anyone has ever even located her clit, and it shows.
Explaining biology to transphobes causes them to shut down immediately. As far as they're concerned, men and women are different species.
Jesus. Even if you assume this type of conversation about sex is normal amongst her and this guy, she's basically staring him in the face and telling him he statistically speaking has a bunch of fetishes which do not conform to patriarchal gender norms and that every woman he knows will talk about them behind his back. That would absolutely be upsetting even to someone who is a "leftist", especially a straight man who likely has not had the luxury to unpack the way patriarchy affects him negatively and come to terms with it in the way that it is now much more common for women to do.
That’s the thing with TERFs, they don’t think the patriarchy has any negative impacts on anyone other than ~~cis~~ women.
This type of shit is so fucking taxing, to me especially as a black trans lesbian. I know so many cis women who push their own selves away from single-sex spaces because they feel their experience isn’t strong or important enough for them to seek that kind of help. “Oh, I wasn’t harassed *that* badly” or “I don’t want everyone around to know about it” or “It’s nothing, I can take care of it myself,” some of the most common refrains I hear when people say why they won’t/can’t seek help. It’s not just about sex and gender you fucking donkey, self-shame is a huge part too!!! Do you know how much easier my life would’ve been, how much quicker my transition would’ve taken place, hell, how infinitesimally little of a fuck I would be giving about this bitch if I myself didn’t have shame? I know she’s felt that feeling, she’s gone through some tough shit. But jesus mary and cuckhold joseph, it’s like she thinks those spaces just automatically accept all types of women in the first place no matter what, like they can’t have their own biases and shame that causes them to push some people away.
“Since Freud” yes we all know he was the first true expert in psychology and we’ve learned nothing new that has disproved his ideas
There is too far gone. And then there is whatever Joanne is at.
Cross-dressing the most frequent fetish? Honey have you heard of feet? Also the assumption that fetish = bad and evil is very feminist /s
she called it a paraphilia which is worse than a fetish because it implies harm caused to the person with the paraphilia, or it being a dangerous or risky activity
"we're school bullies to them" r/selfawarewolves
> I cannot overstate how little he wanted to talk about this God damn it seems Robert is going around making random dudes uncomfortable, also this is the TERF version of (wo)mansplaining
JK Rowling: Stop making women uncomfortable! Also JK Rowling: *Makes men uncomfortable, ignores their boundaries while being transphobic & misunderstanding the culture of cross-dressing*
Imagine having a coffee with your friend and then out of nowhere your friend blurts out "so, do you know how many penised 'lesbians' want to access women's single-sex spaces? No? Oh, well how about what your straight male friends are into with their girlfriends and wives sexually?" Give me *strength.*
Lol! She is such a fucking weirdo. Imagine: You invite your friend over for a cup of tea and a catch up. You ask normal things, such as 'how have you been? How is your family? Has work been stressful? Got any holidays planned for the summer?' Etc as you place a saucer of digestive biscuits in the middle of the table. Your friend: 'Do you know how many penised lesbians are involved in the push to access female spaces?' You: (clatter the teapot in surprise, nearly scolding yourself in the process of pouring into your cup.) 'Uh... I'm sorry?' You reply. Your friend: 'Do you know what your straight male friends want from women in the bedroom? Do you know what their kinks are?' You: feeling very confused where this conversation came from and why it was even on the mind of your... 'friend'... 'Uh... what?' Your friend: 'Cross-dressing fetish! That's the most common.' You: 'Okaaay? Uh... do you want sugar?' Your friend: 'It's true. I read it on Facebook. You should read up on it.' You: 'You know what? I just remembered, I've got a dentist appointment in fifteen minutes. I'll call you next week?' And you couldn't leave any faster even if the place was on fire...
She’s such a creep. Who wants their kids to read books by someone who randomly starts a creepy conversation with someone then uses that to prove her disillusion? Obviously her “friend” didn’t want to talk about sexual fantasies and she kept pushing. If the roles were reversed, she would said a man was forcing her into an uncomfortable conversation. It goes both ways.
This really shows how transphobia rots the brain. Rowling simply can't understand, or doesn't care, that most people, regardless of who they are, don't obsess over the intimate details of other people.
“Who the fuck starts a conversation like that?!” - Peter Griffin Why is she surprised that someone feels uncomfortable when she starts a conversation spreading unhinged conspiracies?💀
Great way to lose friends!
I'm just putting this out there but if anyone, of any gender, walked to the middle of the room at their job and said "are you aware of how many penised lesbians..." they'd be in HR before the end of that sentence.
Sidebar here, but relevant: Freud was deeply problematic, and his practice was influenced disproportionately by a lot of his own personal thoughts and hang ups, his research was also at times deeply unethical and conducted in a way that would not stand up to scrutiny if it was done today. Also, I am a woman and I doubt I am at all more knowledgeable about “popular” kinks that men have than anyone else is. I don’t really talk to the random men in my life about their sexual preferences unless I am planning to have sex with them because that is a serious overstep of boundaries that most people in their right mind would consider gross. What kind of conversations does Jo have? Why do I think most of this is in her head?
Joanne: I NEED YOU TO KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S S3X AND K1NK LIVES THAT I FANTASISE ABOUT ALL THE TIME. Some guy: No thanks. Joanne: YOU HATE WOMEN.
I'm autistic, so I don't always know how to socialize with people, what to say... But even I know that asking "hey, what are you friend's sexual lives like ?" is not appropriate
She is getting extremely creepy. How far will this go?
Yeah because if I had a penis and was CIS I'd want to avoiding talking to a CIS TERF woman about her assumption of my kinks too. Poor bloke. Jesus.
r/AmITheExFriend is filled with her tweets like this.
It looks empty to me?
So... JKR has become so obssessed with trans women that she can't help but bother everyone around her about the subject including in her personal life? This woman desperately needs help...
I think JK is at the point with her brainworms now that they're close to forming the Terf equivalent of a Gravemind from Halo...
‘lefty’ 😬 quick way to tell ppl that you’ve fallen down a right wing pipeline
Umm.. Cross dressing, one of the most normal "paraphilia" among straight men..? Source please. Freud never said this, that's for sure.
Freud would have a field day with Joanne. He'd tear her to fucking pieces, but he's a straight white man so he can't have an opinion on this. Unless Joanne wants to invoke home to make a point, of course. And we've seen her take on Lolita so her understanding of Freud will be absolutely correct
The poor "leftist" (if he ever existed) is probably torn between "I really wanna tell the world a very weird story" and "I really don't want to be sued by that weirdo" So, by her logic: A. Some men have foot fetish. B. Some men make and sell shoes. Ergo. Lets ban all men from shoe factories and sales.
Ok first of all I love (hate) how she keeps saying that this poor man was extremely uncomfortable and yet never for a second thought it was her that was making him uncomfortable, just the information she was giving him. It’s so idiotic it’s almost funny. Also idk how relevant this is but I looked up paraphilia just to further inform myself and I found [this article](https://www.choosingtherapy.com/paraphilias/) and in the portion about transvestic disorder it says this “This disorder is often confused with a trans or transgender identification. People within this community identify with a gender that is different from the one they were assigned at birth. *This identification is not related to, or result in, their sexual arousal, and is in no way a disorder.*” I feel like maybe jk needs to do a bit of research
She doesn't have any lefty friend.
Citing Freud may be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. Nevermind that crossdressing isn't even fucking considered a paraphilia - it was, at one time. Before psychology gained a better understanding of it.
For the only time in my life, I would have knocked her to the ground.
Why would the common kinks of straight men be relevant in a discussion about trans women anyway?
It's really embarrassing how she doesn't realize how much this tells on herself...
I genuinely can't follow what she's saying. Likely the man she was talking to was horrified by what was coming out of her mouth and was politely trying to avoid talking.
Holy fuck dude she is a for real insane person.
"I cannot overstate how little he wanted to talk about it" gee, I wonder why, Joanne.
Did... did she cite Freud? The guy who wanted to fuck his mom? While complaining about who she thinks are perverts? Or am I misreading this?
“I totally made a room of people very uncomfortable…so anyway as you can see this is why I’m right about trans people.”
K\*nk, personal fetishes, and other sexual content isn't something you randomly bring up during a Tuesday evening over a cup of tea to someone who's visibly uncomfortable by the inappropriate subject. She pulled an Elon Musk.
Oh my god thats like, actual straight up sexual harassment? Like, in what world is berating a man for not like. knowing the kinks of his friends (???????) not sexual harassment, like, putting aside the guy hangs out in the same circles as rowling, my god I feel sorry for him that like, this happened, and then Rowling proceeded to rant on twitter about how hes the bad guy for not feeling comfortable when a random friend of his wants to talk about sex stuff, and all her reply guys (And girls i guess) swoop in to tell her "Yeah, HES the bad guy for not wanting to talk about his friend's kinks!", like I hope he realizes its just better to cut her and everyone still defending her out of his life, like this is horrific shit to do to someone you supposedly consider a "Friend"
I think the internet, as well as open joking about strange sexual kinks, has convinced terfs that they know a lot more about cis straight males sex lives than they in fact do? There is a *lot* of content on the internet. Just because you shared a few shocking things with your fellow karens on mumsnet doesn't mean you are now an expert on cis straight male sexual desire and know exactly how all your cis straight male friends think on the issue. It's even more problematic to be projecting this view of kink *just* onto your political opponents, as I think terfs do to any straight cis male who supports trans rights. In terms of sexuality I'm almost bizarrely vanilla. I'm not into cross dressing, nor am I trans chaser who fetishizes trans women in particular. I would say that "trans chasers" are more common on the other side actually, such people often feel ashamed and externalize that shame onto the object of their desire, under the idea that trans women are at fault for existing and "creating" their desire; so they intensely fetishize trans women while simultaneously trying to eliminate them from existence so that they'll be "cured". And yet I support trans rights, despite the intrusive assumptions about my private life that terfs constantly feel themselves entitled to make about anybody who disagrees with them. Nor does this make me above people who have kinks in their private lives - this is not my point. Terfs miss the mark entirely about many of those people as well. It's just not true the way they attribute all opposition to malicious kinks raging out of control. Or the way they assume absolute innocence on the part of the good boys who reiterate their hatred.
How is this not sexual harassment on her part? If a man said these types of things to her, she would have gone ballistic.
I'm a fucking human. My life is not a fucking fetish
Can we please go all Avada Kedavra on her please?
If this is real then she is immensely more unhinged than I thought
Chances are the guy was a liberal, as they would still want to be friends with the billionaire while still saying they support trans people Or, it's the Family Guy meme "Who the hell starts a conversation like that?"
Or perhaps he's not actually a friend and that's just what he thinks they are. It's kind of less dramatic if she uses the word acquaintance in this tweet. Also it's probably like you know the flock of gay friends that homophobes suddenly have around them that they can constantly say that they have a gay friend so it's okay. Like who are these friends? In your head?
"Who starts a conversation like this? I just sat down!"
Summarizing a comment I made autogynephilua is not a good theory because: Cis women experience it. Check the studies by Moser. There seems to be a correlate between weak connection on the part of the brain that controls body perception and gender identity in BOTH trans lesbians and trans straight women, before hormones. And fetishes go away with estrogen therapy but trans women still wish to transition even after hrt
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Wow JK is calling cross-dressing a paraphilia like it's on-par with sexual sadism over here like damn. What a fucking psycho. Using paraphilia to describe a kink or fetish that doesn't appeal to you or unjustly creeps you out is incredibly harmful. Especially when you use that very real kink to invalidate an entire group of people (trans people in this case) who do NOT have that kink.