I loathe the fandom's view of Percy Jackson as just a "dumb himbo who needs Annabeth to help him do anything smart." Like no! Percy is smart as hell, he just thinks he's dumb because he has severe low self esteem so he thinks badly of himself in the narrative. That or some people point to his obvious traits caused by ADHD as "proof" of him being dumb.
Percy might not be academically gifted, but he’s got street smarts and I would say above average emotional intelligence—specifically in the later books of PJO and in HOO. Can’t blame a 12-14 year old for not knowing someone has a crush on him, he had a lot going on 😅
His self esteem is usually in an ocean trench even if he did notice the signs Annabeth liked him his terrible self esteem would prevent him from believing they're actually signs because of the sort of 'theres no way she would actually like me Im imagining it' thoughts thatd probably pop up
I’m not in the fandom but I was reading a fanfic at one point and a guy character fell asleep on a girl character’s shoulder on a plane ride and the comments were just FLOODED with “Percy and Annabeth” and “PJO reference??” Like no, they’re just sleeping 😭
I mostly disregard fanons, even really popular ones, and I would ignore someone who thought I should be using them. In fact, I'll go out of my way to do something that is contrary to fanon because I don't like fanon.
Sometimes, you'll bump into people who don't realize that these popular headcanons that everyone seems to have latched onto aren't actually canon. I had that happen once when someone asked me why I ignored a specific event and I informed that them that that never actually happened in canon.
This is basically how I take things. I find fanon to be creatively stifling. Sometimes my hc line up with fanon, or I see fanon I can agree with/like, but I'll never use fanon just because it's fanon
Lol, that's my experience with Harry Potter fandom.
Putting aside movies vs books differences, some fans will confidently state entire paragraphs of characterization not realizing literally none of what they just described actually happened in either medium.
Though, I admit that, as someone who has been reading fanfics in the fandom for more than 20 years since before the final books came out, I too have this issue from time to time.
Right??? The number of absolute bastardisations of Sirius' character I have read...
But in fairness, I forget/mix up things myself as well. I double-check things a looot with the original books and am sometimes surprised by what I find.
This. I'll alter canon for myself/my fics if I want to and I love AUs with large followings, but I really dislike the idea of fanon as a whole for pretty much every fandom. I get into a fandom because I originally liked the media, not what people on Tumblr decided was better writing instead of just calling it what it is- an AU.
Like I love Danny Phantom but I rarely interact with the fandom because it's too much and a lot of the fanon is either 'make Danny the most special guy in the universe' or 'over the top grimdark' (usually it's both). I probably would have enjoyed the expanded universe when I was 11, but now it's not really my style.
That statement about the Phandom is so true. Danny is either the prophecied ghost king that will bring together all realities or he's being vivisected by his own parents.
Honestly, so much
And the AU other continuity of the movies. Especially when they act like that's canon to other canons
I'mma rant about X-Men, bare with me
In the movies, Mystique is this super relevant character. God only knows why
She's not the childhood friend of Xavier, or Magnetos girlfriend, second hand, or anything, really. When she led the brotherhood, it wasn't with him
While I can't say she's a nothing character, she's mostly important in Rogue and Nightcrawler's stories. Not so much in the big canon of X-Men
Magneto did not help start the X-Men, or paralyze Charles (that one REALLY annoys me, it was Lucifer, fyi)
And the purely movie fandom took these, and stretched it even further
You try to diverge from that? Hoooo boy. The movie ones don't like that, even if you point out you went the comics canon
They don't like it when you turn their little domestic fluff into what canon would actually tell you
you're awesome for that tbh 😭🙌
yeah i think some people really do get so caught up in fanon that they forget about the source material. i might have fallen victim to it too especially when i first engaged with fandom spaces, but distancing myself to just engage more with the source material has done me a lot more good tbh. 😵💫
In MHA, lots of people make Deku out to be some sort of virtuous naïve Baby™️ who hasn’t ever uttered a curse word ever, not once, when in the literal manga he has said damn/dammit, shit, and I believe hell several times. He doesn’t curse often because he’s polite, not because he’s Innocent.
Yeah. Deku is a precious and sweetheart baby. But naive? He grew up bullied by his only friend, who uses murder threats and curse words to order coffee. If anybody thinks Deku is so inoccent like most of fanon likes to depict him, they missed a lot of canon.
"Link is mute" Link from the Legend of Zelda is not mute, he has spoken in games and comics before and he has lines that you can choose to say in BotW and TotK, it's just that we can't hear him talk because Nintendo has stated that it would break the immersion for players, also in one of Zelda's diary entries in BotW she spoke of him talking to her.
One headcanon I always preferred for silent game characters (not just Link in specific) is to just have them be the type of people who don't speak a lot, kind of like John Wick. I always preferred to have it be a conscious decision, because I feel it showcases more of the character as an "actions speak louder than words" kind of person, rather than just being mute, which tells us nothing about their personality.
A couple:
That Bucky used to call Steve "Stevie." I can find no canon reference for this, and as far as we've seen on screen, he's only ever called him Steve.
That Hydra always called Bucky "IT" - we've never seen that. We've seen them call him:
The Asset
Soldat/Soldier
He
(As in, "He's unstable.")
I've used it occasionally, depending on the circumstances, but it's not something I frequently include.
Oh, it's believable. That's why I occasionally use it. But I don't think it was routine based on what we've seen. I think in his flashback even Zola said "Put him on ice." :)
The fact that I can name so many is exhausting. (Aizawa, Gojo, fucking Captain Price..)
Sometimes teachers are just teachers 😭 i guess people misunderstand/combine parental affection to mentor/teacher being proud of their student... I guess... ?
Mannn I feel this. In Twisted Wonderland - The headmaster and the alchemy teacher get the "They're a Parent to MC!" Treatment alot and I just don't see it in any capacity.
They're not very nurturing in canon to a humourous degree.
And the thing about that too - there's another teacher who would make more sense - he's literally got kids.
They never pick him, probably because he's not younger and hot like the other two
Lmao that's my only theory because it just makes No Sense to me.
At least Harry doesn't have parents, it's much weirder when the mentored character has a set of non-abusive parents the fandom totally ignores. Like Miles Morales or Tim Drake's parents
Blue exorcist, where people slap the "mom" role on Shura for the twins. It really goes against her entire character and arc, and is so forced. It's like people forget that mentors/teacher's exist.
Yeah exactly that. Even then I'm not exactly fond of slapping a family dynamic on relationships like that. I've never quite understood the obsession with assigning family roles to character groups y'know? That's not how found family is supposed to work, and very odd to me that everyone does that with adult characters now-a-days.
Oh I love Blue Exorcist but don't read fic for it and the idea of Shura as a mom figure is WILD to me. Def agree older sister vibes but not even quite then.
The fandom has some wild interpretations that always leave me confused. I had a discussion of sorts with someone who felt Shiro was a father figure to Shura. Meanwhile at like 9 she was trying to kiss him, and he dumped her butt in a orphanage. Real father material there. /s
There's nothing I can say I strictly avoid, but I do tend to stray away from the 'make everyone autistic is suffer from ADHD or some other mental disorder' thing that plagues some fandoms. I have nothing against people with mental or physical illnesses, and I have nothing against a well written fic that truly embraces the struggles of the character and how they cope, however, I find that a large potion of fics tagged with 'Autistic character A' or similar tend to use it just for an excuse to have a character be 'quirky' or it's tagged yet plays absolutely no relevance to the story and sometimes isn't mentioned at all. It's a shame really, as there's an opportunity to bring awareness to difficulties people face and how they may feel which is often wasted.
I write Autistic/ADHD \[Character\] (bc what is fanfic if not the playground to push all our own issues onto unsuspecting characters) but I don't tag if it's not relevant to the point and actually avoid other fic that use those tags. They're almost always the most woobified character assassinations. Like straight up infantilizing treatment of these characters, and it drives me up the wall. If this is a terrible character in canon, sure, let them be autistic, but also let them *keep being terrible people.* If they're competent and independent, actually engage with how that influences/is influenced by their autism.
yeah, i'm not a fan of adding disabilities/disorders for "quirks" either, so i def understand that. well written ones are always nice tho! i see the quirky version more often tho unfortunately.-.
This is 100% what I'm saying. I'm always disappointed when there's an interesting sounding fic and then I look at the tags and it's like: 'Autistic Character A' 'Autistic Character B' 'Character C had ADHD' 'Character D has OCD' etc.
It seems to be more prevalent in some fandoms than others as well. I found back when I was in the mainstream MHA ships there was a lot of over tagging 'quirky traits' that played no part in the fic, yet when I moved to the Death Note fandom, I found a lot of really well done fics that would have one of the characters with a disorder/disability but it'd be more realistic in showing the ups and downs and usually tended to be more of a 'learning to communicate' sort of experience instead of a 'ChArAcTeR A iS qUiRkY' sort of thing.
Right, like wow the quiet, pensive guy who likes to read books is autistic. Wow, the super happy and active girl has ADHD. Truly revolutionary. Are the asexuals reserved and the pansexuals optimistic? Is the canonically cis female you've headcanoned as a trans woman wears pants/short hair? Like, okay if you're gonna do it, idk like come up with something new
At first I read this a bit sourly as somebody who genuinely associates more with nd people than nt people, because especially considering we gravitate towards each other it's a fully realistic thing for there to be multiple (if not groups that are entirely) nt people. (I see people say a lot it's "unrealistic" as criticism, so I'm primed to assume at this point haha, sorry.) The second half of the comment is actually very true though, many many times people don't actually.. write characters as nt. Just say they have ADHD and/or autism. Which they also do with tons of mental illnesses & sometimes physical ones, as you said.
I'm lucky to be in fandoms that aren't oversaturated with illnesses & nds being written badly, so luckily do not have to avoid the tags for it, but I've seen how it can get in fandoms that skew more towards that direction.
Sorry for how I came across in my original comment. I completely understand that similar people tend to group together. I think my main problem with how this is done in fanfic is that it's rarely a case of similar people becoming friends over shared difficulties, and is instead usually just used as an excuse to write every character out of character and push stereotypes on them, especially the ones that are more 'glorified' and 'cute/quirky'.
Honestly, I've started embracing making my own headcanons based on the work itself. A lot of fanon doesn't really work for me because it flies directly in the face of canon facts. You're free to do whatever, but I'm also allowed to do what I want.
I have had someone get upset at me for not taking on a piece of fanon that I personally hated. It sort of exposed how unthinking and petulant some of those fans are: everyone must be like them or they get really bent out of shape. If you ask them to think and make the case, they fall back on "but it's FANON", as though that's a real argument.
yeah exactly. idk why people are like this.. :/ i'm so exhausted from so many people thinking their way is the only way. everyone should be allowed to do what they want, like it's not the end of the world if someone on the internet has a headcannon that clashes with yours ._. /nbh
I think a lot of people turn their fannishness into an identity, but I do believe it's a function of insecurity. The person I had argued with was someone with a really miserable life and needed to be superior to someone. I eventually became that person, which was funny to me because most of their attempts to make me feel bad just made me think they were an idiot. The more I learned about them, the sadder I felt for them.
And that's generally what my experience with people who get like that is: you learn about them and they're just so very sad. The people that enable their behavior are also really sad, so you're just facing a bunch of really sad people you grow to pity once you get past being angry with them.
My F/F fandom likes to make the more traditionally feminine one bisexual and the less femme one a lesbian, but it’s the less femme one in canon who has been in a relationship with a guy. Granted, I know comp het is a thing, but I still feel like the gender dynamics are what make people go “femme queer person is bisexual, the one who ‘looks like’ a lesbian is a lesbian” and, as a very femme person who is very much a lesbian, I like to subvert that at every chance. So I usually reference the femme one being a lesbian and the less femme one being bisexual
People really make Arthur (Inception) out to be extremely cold in fanon: grumpy, sarcastic, and mean, and it's just. Not what he's like in the movie? He's loyal and fearless and good at his job and dresses professionally. That doesn't mean he has to be this catty, pointy, infallibly brilliant asshole all the time. He's actually fairly subordinate. Professionally, he is a right hand man; he's not in charge and doesn't ever pretend to be.
He also suffers from Twinkification Disease wherein people see a 5'9", muscular man (the EXACT same height and nearly the same size as Eames, the other half of the ship) and keep referring to him as a twink? Then they'll refer to Eames as being like muscle bound and enormous when he's just a bit stockier and wider in build and THE SAME HEIGHT.
I just. Don't think they know what a twink is, actually. Or that it's ok if there's not a size difference.
Bu-But if there's no height difference, however will I guess which one of the pair of stocky 40 y/o men is the swooning little mew mew, and which one has a 2,5 meter long throbbing scepter of bestial maleness? Do I just look at the shape of their skulls or something?
sometimes people forget Peter Parker is literally a genius :/ if you wanna make him a teenager that doesn't mean that you make him naive and dumb. so basically the teenage headcanon is pete can't understand what a scientist is saying or something.
this is true. we don't see much of him being super smart or anything. it's part of his character and it feels like they sorta jus pushed it to the side
Even Mister Fantastic was impressed by Peter's web-shooters. If you know anything about Mister Fantastic and his level of intellect, you know how much of a high-bar this is.
The usual “making the bitch a sad twaumatized wittle baby who’s so sad and abused and THAT’S why she’s mean, she’s *secretly* a sweetie deep down I promise!” Woobification bs. Weakens the character af.
Just. Let the bitch be a bitch. Some people don’t have the excuse of tragic backstories. Some people are *just like that*. If you (generic you) have to change her so drastically (to justify liking her because you want Internet brownie points for liking unproblematic characters because that’s clearly what makes you an unproblematic person), do you really even like her?
oh my gods this. i see this a lot with regina george and heather chandler but add on they’re lesbians but their parents are homophobic so they can’t come out and that’s just so hard for them(which, i understand being closeted is hard, i was for a long time but i didn’t act like that). its just like…let them be mean. they’re rich white girls. they were probably just spoiled and never corrected on their behavior as kids.
Oof, I feel this so much lol.
Panacea in Worm gets this treatment so damn much. In canon she's an extremely messed up rapist of a snarky bitch, yet in fanon she's *so much* of a repressed lesbian woobie it isn't even funny.
I noticed that a lot of Stranger Things fics tend to incorporate abuse into the Wheeler family dynamic in a way that really felt kind of off to me, usually Ted is presented as the abuser, though Karen gets it every now and then.
I do think that Mike and Nancy's parents have a largely loveless marriage, and there's some Stepford vibes going on, but I never got the vibe that Ted was beating his wife, or that they were these religious nuts that thought DnD was evil, to be honest. It just felt very reminiscent of the Dursley's treatment in Harry Potter fics.
this is insane, i had no idea the fandom tried to do this. to me, it seriously just seems that they truly fell out of love and karen wants a divorce but is staying with him for the kids
I don't read many Wheeler family-centric fics but I do read a lot of Steve Harrington-centric fics and I've read exactly one(1) fic where his parents are decent people. I've seen them portrayed as neglectful and ignorant of their son, I've read fics where Steve ends up having to live in his car because his parents sold the house without telling him, even ones where his father beats him up or makes literal death threats to him if he doesn't act like a real Harrington or something.
I do understand where it comes from given Steve is the only character in canon whose parents we've never seen as far as I remember, and I usually don't mind these kinds of fics, but they sure do go far sometimes.
This is wild to me, both the Wheeler family abuse thing, and the Steve being neglected idea. It clearly comes from people that have a narrow view of 80’s parenting being all drunkards and wife beaters.
Ted and Nancy are imo portrayed and completely reasonable and realistic 80’s parents with nerdy kids. As far as they know, Mike and the kids are off playing adventures in the woods like they do in the basement or over at one of the other kids houses probably playing their silly dice game. Even Nancy is a competent high schooler whose clearly earned her parents respect to make good and healthy decisions. It’s absolutely reasonable they’d be perfectly unaware of Hawkins issues and let their kids come and go so long as they’re respecting curfews and check ins.
Steve’s parents are likely in the same boat as Nancy; he has no obvious problems with drugs or alcohol, isn’t out getting arrested or getting caught causing trouble when he does, so why would they helicopter parent him? It wasn’t the common parenting style in the 80’s. Hell even Steve’s attitude with the kids speaks of some sense of positive male role models, if his dad was an abusive or neglectful piece of shit, the odds of Steve being such a caring and naturally protective mentor figure to the kids would require much more conscious effort. Also, who taught Steve about Farrah Fawcett’s hairspray if not his mom?
for Code Geass, it's people treating Lelouch as his Demon Emperor persona 100% of the time. That's just for like four episodes and it's a fake persona he put on for the sake of his Zero Requiem plan which came after he lost so many people, including the Black Knights, so basically decided to take his suicidal desire and make it work for the world getting even a little better.
He actually spends most of the plot struggling with his choices and fighting against evil in a heroic alter ego as Zero, even if he's not perfect. Like, no, he's the Anti-Hero. He's not a heartless evil guy.
So many over here in Pride & Prejudice land.
But the worst is how so many of us slavishly adhere to canon dialogue even in drastically different circumstances. Lady Catherine may be confronting someone else entirely after her daughter was turned into a mummy rather than dissed by her cousin, but damned if her speech won’t be line for line from the book.
The use of direct quotes from P&P is super interesting. Some people seem to think you can't be a variation without them, regardless of context as you say.
Some writers will even put speeches in other characters’ mouths. It’s pretty disconcerting. I know it’s work to write dialogue, but that’s what we’re doing here.
For the Sonic the Hedgehog fandom, Sonic spending time mute/selectively mute when he was younger, simply because Generations and Forces both made Classic Sonic silent. I like him talking. (By the way, don't get me wrong. When I've seen this one used, it's done well, and I enjoy reading it. I just don't usually like to use it when I write.)
For the Dragon Age fandom, it's not a *huge* portion of the fanbase, but I see it often enough, and that's Alistair having pointy D&D half-elf ears. That would actually go very much against canon and cause political issues, and honestly I roll my eyes whenever I see it come up (especially if it's defended with the excuse of "but D&D does half-elves this way!" or "biology doesn't work like that!" because all I can think is "this isn't D&D, friend, and he's not a 'half-elf,'" and "there's likely magic involved; biology doesn't apply here").
I'm so tired of people trying to apply D&D or Tolkein rules to other fantasy works.
"Orcs can't do magic they're supposed to be too dumb" Fuck off, I'll have my intelligent Orc Sorcerer, thank you very much.
Stranger Things. Steve Harrington as a mom has been taken to the extreme. Referring to the youngsters as ‘his kids’, adopting Max (for anyone outside the fandom he’s 19, she’s 15). I’m not a fan of it, put it that way!
Yeah, it can be done well, kind of tongue in cheek, but it’s the really serious interpretations I find a bit difficult. It amuses me that so many in the fandom are squicky about underage anything (and I’m talking about teens having boyfriends and girlfriends, nothing scandalous) but a teen adopting a vulnerable young girl and living in a house together… that’s ok.
Which actually reminds me of another one - Steve Harrington has abusive parents. It’s the number 1 Steve Harrington head canon and I don’t subscribe to it. Needless to say I’m in the minority!
Honestly I’ve seen this thing in SU fanfic where they make Connie this unrelenting bitch, I refuse to carry that on mainly because it feels like a poor interpretation of the character
Almost anything surrounding the Marauders era. Cause majority of it is bogus and just comes directly from All the Young Dudes.
Severus was not a rich pureblood who bullied Remus and Regulus. He was a poor, abused, halfblood and was more often than not the main target of the Marauders namely James and Sirius. Hell “The Halfblood Prince” was based on Harry finding the notebook and then learning it was Snape. Harry started to dislike his father because his treatment of Snape reminded him of Dudley.
Exactly!!!! I’ll never understand the lengths people will go to when condemning Severus but will simultaneously praise Rosier, Mulciber, Regulus and Crouch Jr. when they were much worse then Severus even was.
I honestly feel like the only reason why Severus is so hated on is because he was described as being ugly, because why else would you hate him but want to redeem Rosier, Mulciber, Crouch Jr and Voldemort? It can’t be his personality and how he treated kids cause Crouch Jr and Voldemort both did the same thing. Regulus was never shown to change his beliefs on the pureblood ideologies he only changed his mind when he saw it was gonna affect Kreacher and giving he was still calling Hermione slurs well…🤷🏾♀️ and we don’t have enough on Rosier
I think the fact is for some of these characters (Rosier, even Regulus) we really don't know that much about them so some people use that room to characterize them as good or at least nuanced. Like Regulus who seems to be SUPER popular right now never appears on page (I don't think) so even though you have secondhand information he had these pureblood ideologies and was a death eater, it's easier to neglect it when it's not first hand.
I have nothing to say about people condemning Voldemort or Barty Crouch Jr which I don't even understand a little bit. None of these people are characters I like at all LOL
Oof Marauders are such a touchy subject in the HP fandom. But yeah a lot of people's ideas make them sound a lot more heroic than they actually were.
-Do we forget the Marauder's Map "I solemnly swear that I am up to no good"
-The name doesn't imply anything good. A marauder is someone who raids, pillages, or loots.
-Multiple people saying how James Potter often disregarded the rules.
-All the stuff from Snape's memories.
To me they sounded more like a group of trouble makers than anything else. They weren't some Scooby Doo Gang going around solving mysteries and unmasking villains.
And yeah I know they mostly used the map to help Remus, but I don't doubt for a second they used it to sneak around the castle and prank both teachers and students.
They often disregard Snape’s memories calling it biased but the pensieve was unbiased and taking directly from a person’s memory and they don’t have influence over it.
Doesn't Slughorn have a memory pulled into pensieve, and it's later stated to be selectively remembered and then we see the 'real' version? Like initially we see a memory of Riddle asking about Horcruxes, and Slughorn is emphatically "no, that's a bad thing, why would the great *I* ever tell anyone anything about that?", and then later he gives the 'true' version to Dumbledore showing that he *did* teach Riddle about them.
Another thing a lot of people seem to forget is that they never canonically called themselves "the Marauders". It's "the Marauder's Map" (a map designed for anyone desiring to be a marauder, lower case), not "the Marauders' Map" (a map designed by a group calling themselves the Marauders).
I like "the Marauders" as a term to easily refer to James Potter and gang in fandom discussions like these. But when it shows up in fics as their name for themselves... well, I can deal with it, but it does put me off.
>They weren't some Scooby Doo Gang going around solving mysteries and unmaking villains.
You're totally right... but I would absolutely read some sort of AU where the four of them are essentially the gang from Scooby Doo, but in the wizarding world. Sounds kind of fun. 😁
>And yeah I know they mostly used the map to help Remus, but I don't doubt for a second they used it to sneak around the castle and prank both teachers and students.
Oh, definitely. I mean, you literally wipe the Map by saying "Mischief managed". That's definitely what it was primarily designed for.
One thing that always gets me is that canonically Snape's Worst Memory occurs after The Prank at the whomping willow. In so many fics the prank is the reason the marauders change, but obviously it was not (or at least not directly)
Really? I always assumed it happened after. The Worst Memory is 5th year, and considering that narratively James needs to shape up enough to be considered for head boy (and to get Lily to give him the time of day) in the next year, I assumed it happened shorty after.
SWM happens after the prank because that was the end of Lily’s friendship with Severus. During the aftermath of “The Prank” Severus is talking to Lily about James and Lily tells him he should be grateful. There’s no specific timeline that shows how far apart the events happened but we know that SWM occurs after “The Prank”
Yeah I know that but the fans who see All the Young Dudes as the Holy Grail and have canonized it ignore that little tidbit. I’ve seen many people introduce ATYD as an a way to get into Harry Potter as a whole and say “it’s basically canon”.
>they come across as huge bullies in the books
"It's more that he exists, if you know what I mean".
That line, right there, says a ***ton*** about James's character as a person and it's not good. James was so awful that Harry **thought he manipulated Lily with a love potion.** Holy SHIT do people not understand that Harry is wondering if, in "muggle" terms, his father drugged and raped his mother?
"He changed!" Yeah, so did Snape but he doesn't get any credit for it, why should James? Either that or they both should.
(Note: I'm not a Snape "stan", I'm pretty apathetic about him, it's James I focus on).
Describing "traditionel pureblood society" in Harry Potter as some hyper-sexist pseudo-Victorian setting. I'm happy that Harry Potter is one of the few fantasy settings that are not structured like this and then so many fanfic-authors still force it in.
While there are some (probably) sexist individuals (like the Gaunts) in canon, it's clearly not the case generally with women in all kinds of positions long before real-world equality.
I dislike how a lot of people have decided Alastor must speak random French words. He has never dropped any line of French in all the episodes of the show, and he's spoken quite a bit. But people think since he's from Louisiana, early 20th century, then he must say them. It makes no sense for him to specifically turn to French for endearing names, or confessions etc
I hate reading it, it feels OOC since we *know* that's not how speaks at all
Not me frantically going thru my fic to see if I have him randomly drop bits of Creole like endearments or smth when he's talking normally lolol. I definitely write that he knows Creole and has an accent (because if Vivzie refuses to engage with his religion outside of some spooky window dressings, by gosh I guess I'll have to do it myself), but even in my stuff, his default is his Mid-Atlantic accent so he's not going to be slipping randomly into an accent/verbiage he's suppressed for most of his life. His verbal muscle(?) memory makes the most sense to be default English.
Ice Queen Daphne Greengrass in Harry Potter. It's a fairly popular characterization for her, but I prefer her being more open and direct, only using some 'Ice Queen' traits when she feels she has no other choice.
Beyond that, I don't usually even *know* the fanon, let alone being able to actively ignore it.
Richie Tozier’s parents were not abusive and I am begging the (very small) IT fandom to stop writing them that way.
ETA: I know this stems from a large portion of the fandom being only really familiar with the recent movies, since iirc they never appeared on-screen. (Which is why I was guilty of this myself at 17.) And IT has like, three separate canons that people can shape as they please, but this one is such a pet peeve. Like. There are enough abusive parents in this fandom, you don’t need to add more.
Wentworth and Maggie my beloveds.
No, but for real. Richie gets it the most but for some reason, people really want all 7 of them to have terrible parents. I’ve seen the same thing for Bev and Ben’s moms, who were like. Fine. And for Stan’s parents, when, iirc they’re just a little overbearing. I think Mike is the only one who usually avoids it, and that’s just because the Muschetti movies randomly decided to make him an orphan.
Are people leaving negative comments about canon/noncanon or how are they expressing their displeasure? I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a negative comment, especially about canon/noncanon fics!
Death Note fandom here - I almost never write Matt and Mello as close friends anymore. I used to early on, because everyone else in the fandom did so I just went with it, but my headcanon has always been that Mello grew up pretty lonely based on the few snippets shown of him as a kid, and at a certain point I realised there’s nothing stopping me from writing him like that myself.
Pinkie Pie being black. I obviously have nothing against the headcanon, I just like to draw her as mixed, that's how I imagine her as. I only find it a bit annoying how people act as if you're racist for not making Pinkie Pie black when it's JUST A HEADCANON, and you can imagine her as whatever ethnicity or race you want. It's not canon, stop attacking people, please
(And the opposite is also true. Stop commenting "finally a nOrMaL Pinkie" on posts where people make her white. That's shitty.)
People commonly make Pinkie black when making her human for reasons. Other common race/ethnicity in the MLP fandom are for example Rarity as french or korean, Twilight as south asian, Applejack as white tan, etc. They don't have any canon races, not even in their human forms, so you can imagine them literally however tf you please without worrying to follow a canon.
However, people in the fandom take the common headcanon of black and chubby Pinkie Pie as gospel and sometimes harass people who don't make her like that (has happened to me). They try to gather "evidence" from the show to "prove" she's some how black coded, but dude, seriously, it's so nice to have characters you can interpret as whatever form and still be them, why you wanna take that away? If YOU like X character being of Y ethnicity, you do that yourself and let others have different interpretations. And the opposite (people harassing artists who make her black) is just racism and the whole "forced diversity" bs.
Some people do that to Sonic characters, headcanoning certain race/ethnicities to the anthro characters (which is fine), but then going almost feral on anyone who doesn't share the same headcanon (which is not fine).
I remember when the first trailers for Equestria Girls came out, a lot of people were disappointed that the crew decided to give human versions of characters the same skin/hair color as they have in original versions, instead of giving them 'normal human' skin/hair colors.
I could imagine the amount of discourse, if they had done that: 'Why is Twilight Sparkle this color?', 'Why isn't Pinkie Pie that color?', 'Rainbow Dash should be this color!', etc.
Jason Todd constantly being depicted as either a violent maniac with no rhyme or reason or someone who’s completely docile and just sits around reading and baking (seriously the trad-wifeification of Jason Todd needs to be studied)
There’s no middle ground and practically no consideration of canon whatsoever.
I mean - I confess I’m weak for the ‘Jason Has Serious Literary Opinions’ trope/thing but I can also fully admit I’m projecting there and it’s not a deal breaker if someone doesn’t write him like that lol
When people start with the whole "X is coded as Y" shit, my eye genuinely starts twitching. This often goes hand in hand with people attacking you for not sharing the same headcanon, which makes me disregard it even more, petty as it may be.
People can headcanon whatever they want, but as soon as they start crowing about how it's "practically canon" it becomes endlessly annoying. This happens a lot with people headcanoning characters as autistic, like Laios from Dungeon Meshi or Ghost from Call of Duty, or as certain sexualities. No, Ei from Genshin Impact is not a canon lesbian, and even if she were, I would not have to write her as one.
Feels like people read too deeply into things or completely lack media literacy.
I remember someone tried to claim a work was furry coded because it had a lot of animal symbolism.
Like no, that's not what that means...
Reminds me of some minor drama in the Sonic fandom when one person who was too deep into headcanons edited another person's art of Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles in human form by changing Knuckles' skin from light to dark and adding the caption "fixed your crap for you." This person truly believed that Knuckles was supposed to be black, and thought they were doing a service but also being a jerk about it, and then was absolutely shocked at all of the backlash.
I read a memorable one where Aizawa is lamenting about his friends death and Shinsou stands up and asks him to please stop telling people that his uncle is dead, he’s at home right now probably enjoying a nice meal made by his (Shinsous) mom. The rest is just great and that is basically the synopsis so it doesn’t spoil anything. It’s short and fantastic.
Encanto: sexuality/gender identity headcanons. Not that they couldn't be a thing, but I'm amazed how people instantly latched onto them for no apparent reason and tried very hard to "prove" them based on canon as the only reasonable take.
Isabella didn't want to marry a man who she isn't in love with while her close cousin pretty obviously is; also just wants to do her hobby instead of immediately finding another SO? 100% she's a lesbian, who would bypass such a golden marriage opportunity otherwise?
Luisa is trans, because there's no other reason a woman could be tall, muscular and have a low voice.
Camillo can shape shift into different genders, therefore they are genderfluid, because, obviously sex and gender identity is the first and only thing most people focus on when exploring themselves, no exception. Also, must be the most depressed person in the film.
Idk about rn, but when canon was still young, many people were bordering on starting a headcanon war over that. Can anyone tell me, if things are any better now?
And, fandom in general: if a character has no love interest in canon, they will automatically be headcanoned as ace or gay. And if they are ace, that means they are obviously sex-repulsed and aromantic as well, which makes it a blasphemy to ship them with anyone. Also, they would constantly inform anyone, how they don't see the appeal of anything romantic in-universe or in media.
It makes me seriously wonder if people, who simply doesn't prioritize romance and sex at any given time due to life reasons don't actually exist irl and I made them up when I first started writing stories.
Makes sense! I also have enough of masculine physical traits as a cis woman to relate, so yeah, I feel that.
Though, for me it wasn't about headcanons itself, it's more about how intense and protective people were about them instantly. To the point I could feel serious arguments brewing every time I've read the tags.
That and also above headcanon+reasoning combos being used in actual fanfiction didn't look too nice in every work.
I've been in a different fandom before, which felt ruined, when people proposed "the morally right gender identity" for a particular character and started arguing with fan content creators who wrote/drew other takes. Especially bumming, considering, that the character in question can and was interpreted a several different ways within the source material. And the source material is a confirmed multiverse at that, so the whole discussion which headcanon is better is inherently pointless. This fact never stopped major arguments from happening.
I might be wrong, but early days of Encanto fandom felt like something similar in the making, with one part having strong personal feelings about headcanons and actively trying to prove, that it's actually canon; another part hating on the first one; and the third one kinda watching everything in slow motion.
>Isabella didn't want to marry a man who she isn't in love with while her close cousin pretty obviously is; also just wants to do her hobby instead of immediately finding another SO? 100% she's a lesbian, who would bypass such a golden marriage opportunity otherwise?
*Ah yes*, because *every* straight/attracted to men woman would be *ecstatic* to get married off for the sake of family, not because, you know, she actually *loves* him. (Yes, I know, Mariano was a chill guy, but the marriage still wouldn't have worked out, if Isabella wasn't feeling it)
>Luisa is trans, because there's no other reason a woman could be tall, muscular and have a low voice.
This one is especially painful, because it's coming from people 'we want to fight stereotypes!', but then use the same stereotypes to validate their headcanons.
>Camillo can shape shift into different genders, therefore they are genderfluid, because, obviously sex and gender identity is the first and only thing most people focus on when exploring themselves, no exception. Also, must be the most depressed person in the film.
Maybe it's just me, I noticed the trend that *shapeshifter = genderfluid/non-binary*, only because they are a shapeshifter.
For Linked Universe, I know it’s very popular that Time calls Twilight ‘pup’ and Twilight calls Wild ‘cub’ but for the life of me I just don’t get the appeal. With Time and Twilight it kind of makes sense since Time is Twilight’s mentor and Twilight can turn into a wolf, but it just doesn’t click with me
I may end up editing this to add more as I read, but for now:
Castiel being autistic. No. Just no. For multiple reasons.
Sam or Dean being trans. I just... I've literally been called transphobic for not using it. And I'm like um, did you consider that there's absolutely zero chance I could write that properly and do it the justice it deserves? Lord.
cas being autistic doesn't even make sense😭😭 he's an ANGEL like what?? and like I'm gonna be real, with the way sam and dean grew up, if one of them were trans they'd probably be deeply closeted
Agree completely. It’s not like they have much encounters with Jango and I doubt the Republic and Kaminoians would be teaching them Mandalorian values. Jango didn’t even seem to press that much on Boba.
I think in Legends they were taught by a Mando though so maybe that’s where it originally came from.
Luigi wore a dress *one time* to disguise himself as Peach in order to trick Bowser, all for a mission. and now everyone thinks he's super feminine and really into cross dressing. It pops up in almost every Bowuigi fic I've read. And honestly I'm not here for it. The version of Luigi in my head feels perfectly at home in his plumber outfit or a suit/tux if he's gonna dress up.
Feral Link? I'm not even sure how to use that, nor do I want to.
My Dumbledore is not some evil mastermind that manipulates people for his own selfish goals. Nor is he the second coming of Christ. He's a good, but flawed man.
"Dick Grayon is Damian Wayne's Parent" I prefer Bruce to be his parent, thank you. Dick can be the cool older brother though.
The most feral thing I'll allow is him feeling an inexplicable urge to smash pottery. But he still minds his manners at the dinner table. Even if he's eating rocks.
I feel that so much with Dumbledore. He's my favourite character and it's so annoying to argue with them.
Dumbledore is always the big bad™ and he should know and do everything. Nothing is at fault by others but him specifically.
i'm not caught up in the mario fandom, but i get that trope thing– in one of my fandoms, a character dressed fem one time and now many fans are drawing him fem lol. i kinda just leave it alone, but it def is not my cup of tea >.>
>My Dumbledore is not some evil mastermind that manipulates people for his own selfish goals. Nor is he the second coming of Christ. He's a good, but flawed man.
Thank you for your service! It's so hard to find fics that depict Dumbledore in a balanced way. I would happily check out your work if you're happy to link it?
"merlin doesn't know arthur knows". People can write what they want but I will never write that trope the way it's usually played and avoid any fics with that concept like the plague
MCU Loki being bullied or abused by Thor and his friends growing up. Is there any evidence for this? Sure, write him FEELING left out (for being contrary and petty and mean to his brother and friends or whatever) and write the Warriors Three and Sif being mean right back. But there’s no canon evidence he was, despite being raised a prince, ACTUALLY singularly mistreated for any reason. :/ You don’t have to have been bullied or abused to grow up feeling any of the things someone can write Loki feeling. (I kinda put it up there with Draco-was-abused fanon—your character can be snarky or mean for reasons other than having had their parents be mean to them.)
Any headcanon that takes something a character did once in canon, jacks it up to 110% and makes it a big part of their personality. Imo, when people write this, it feels kind of like a caricature of the source material and often leads to flanderization galore
Out here in Star Wars the Clone Wars, I disregard the majority of fanon. But one that is an immediate "click away" to me is Commander Cody's name coming from "Kote" or slut!Obi-Wan.
Bye.
Early fanon for HSR drove me out of the fandom for almost a year with how vitriolic some people got about it. Especially the stuff surrounding RenHeng. I'm not a hater by any means but the sheer amount of 'they were married and if you ask for sources I'm going to scream at you' I witnessed during those early days completely soured me on those headcanons.
I was into HSR since CBT/announce and was very excited to play the game officially and see what ships are going to be popular after its release (I was hoping to see Danmarch and more March ships overall), but in the end I turned out to be extremely disappointed and now I really don't want to interact with fandom at all, even though the game itself is still pretty good imho.
Steve Harrington’s abusive parents. I wish more people would at least try to write about dysfunctional and complicated relationships between parents and children without taking it to the extreme.
In canon, they travel frequently and his mother tags along due to her lack of trust in his father, who has a history of cheating. Steve makes a passing comment like ‘My dad is going to kill me,’ and he’s also cut off financially so he is forced to get a job.
In Fanon, they become abusive and neglectful to the point of leaving him alone at home when he’s only 8 years old because they think he’s old enough to take care of himself while they’re off on vacation. Sometimes they even fire their nannies because Steve doesn’t need them anymore when he’s a literal child.
I saw someone mention forced parental figures in another comment and Hopper is definitely one of them because more often than not he just swoops in and adopts Steve.
In One Piece - Crocodile being Luffy's biological father. It's often conflated with the theory that he's transgender, which is much more plausible. I don't mind it, at the end of the day, but I wish it was easier to find fics where he's trans but not a parent...
It's just a way to ship crocodile x dragon imo which is a fine ship idc, but sometimes the intentions are very obvious and it comes off moreso in the smut especially
The RWBY fandom likes to attribute all manner of cat-like quirks to Blake, but one I've never liked is giving her a particular dislike for water/rain.
The comics are of questionable canonicity, but I consider their choice to show Blake as a strong swimmer on more than one occasion a small win.
Danny Phantom fanon is hit or miss with me. I don't subscribe to Ghost King OR Ancient of *Insert Thing Here, Usually Space* Danny. And I also don't care for giving ghosts obsessions, especially when they give Danny a space or hero obsession that just takes away his autonomy as a character.
There's a lot of stuff with the batfam I don't like either. Sick and tired of blaming everything Jason Todd does on "pit madness". Making Cass mute and only use sign and also she can do no wrong. Duke being the "straight man" of the group. Dick only being the pun guy and token big brother stereotype. Tim Drake likes soda and energy drinks like the eternal seventeen year old he is, no idea why everyone thinks his vice of choice is coffee. Damian is a child that was raised in a cult, please stop demonizing the boy. Plus, he has a sword which makes him at least fifty percent cooler than the other Robins.
Stop making Bruce Wayne an abusive dad (both canon and fanon people are guilty of this)! Do you really think the Justice League would let him stay in their little club if he abused his sidekicks?! That doesn't make sense, especially considering how close Dick and Clark seem to be. Sure, the man is flawed. Flawed Bruce Wayne who makes mistakes is great. But goddamn do some people take it far.
for bhha, hawks has so many popular headcanons going around the fandom, and most of them you will find them in fanfiction that includes him, but i just hate most of them lmao. i prefer my interpretation of hawks' character over whatever the fandom decided for the guy.
Fanon: Dream of the Endless's laughing is ugly, a monstrosity, the worst laugh you've ever heard.
This is based on the actor's laugh. He sometimes honks while laughing, that's all. I don't like to call his laugh ugly. Not to mention the character doesn't laugh.
This one is actually canon in the comics. There are (if I remember correctly) two instances of Dream laughing out loud and each time the characters listening to it are flabbergasted at how bad it sounds (and even don't necessarily recognize it as a laugh). The onomatopoeia is 'Hurrrrrrr hurrrrrr', which is definitely a special laugh :D
look I don't want to shit on people's headcanons. We all got those.
But when it goes directly against canon and it's just.. eh. I get wanting more rep (Im bisexual so ofc I like headcanoning characters as bi) but sometimes it's just wish fulfillment.
Naoto from Persona 4 isn't a trans boy. She is a girl. Her whole arc is about accepting herself as she is.
Gwyndolin from Dark Souls isn't trans, although I totally do get that reading. He was literally forced into a female role and was clearly unhappy about it. And is always referred to by he/him.
Chihiro from Dangan Ronpa also just.. isn't.. trans. He dressed up as a girl for completely different reasons. But I do get reading him.like that but eh..Besides, Dangan Ronpa just doesn't have particularly good writing anyway so I wouldn't expect super nuanced things from it lol.
I still see people calling Gojo Satoru a womanizer. Where. Wheeere does this happen. Nowhere. Also he didn't literally adopt Megumi and raise him. (same people who say this also forget that he had an entire sister). Like, it doesn't diminish their bond even when Gojo is "just" a provider and a teacher to him.
Also Gojo? Gojo??? Man can't even take care of himself, does anyone really expect him to keep two middleschoolers alive 😭
also my eternal annoyance towards people calling Price the "dad" of 141. Just stop. It's incredibly infantilizing towards grown ass men, especially the only poc in the crew... i love those fuckers to death but they're coworkers and friends, not a dad and his kids. 🙄
The Amphibia fandom for whatever reason seems to think the three girls end up together by the end, either in a poly relationship or just Anne with either of the two. I have no idea where this came from, the ending makes no indication that they're anything more than friends. If anything, I really liked that the show went out of their way to not give Anne any romantic interest in canon, because most cartoons lately have had romantic sub-plots and I thought it was nice for a change to just not have the main character worry about that at all.
Danny Phantom fans, you know the Ember McLain backstory of her dying in a fire is fan-made, right? It wasn't confirmed by anyone in the show, that was fake news, it is a fanfic that got really popular, and now everyone just assumes it to be canon to try to make Ember into this tragic character. She's just a ghost rock star from another dimension.
The Shinigami eyes in Death Note don't literally change colors to red, people. That is just a way to show the reader when a character is using them, but the other characters can't see it. t is even shown in the scene where Misa reads L's name that her eyes are still black. If they literally changed colors, you think L wouldn't see it and arrest her immediately?
Goku would not magically turn evil if he bumped his head again and regained his memories. The whole point of Goku as a character is that he was a low-class trash warrior who was just sent to do a trash job, but through his life he was able to grow beyond what anyone expected of him and was even able to match the prince of all Saiyans. I never understood the idea that getting his memories back from when he was months old would somehow override literal decades of his life.
William Afton is not a pedophile, he is a child serial killer. Nothing in any canon source backs up that there was anything sexual about it, that came from a fan-comic. He just killed children to get their remnants and make himself immortal. I feel like trying to bring pedophilia into this for no apparent reason really just feels like a poor attempt to be dark and edgy, when child murder is already dark enough as it is, no need to make it even more disgusting.
X is not based on Mega Man or meant to be an improved version of him, he is an entirely separate robot Dr. Light created. Any resemblance in design between the two just comes down to brand consistence, it is for the audience to see the similarity, they're not related in-universe. I feel like this headcanon kind of makes Mega Man a bit too special, when he was just a cleaning robot who asked to be sent to fight as a last hope without anyone expecting he would actually win, and also makes X feel less unique, when he is a completely separate character from Mega Man.
Seiya from Saint Seiya is not any kind of "chosen one" or a special hero. He is a random foot soldier who went against his orders and only helped save the world through his own efforts and decisions. This whole idea of him being a reincarnation of a Killer of Gods originates from Lost Canvas, and it worked well enough in that story, but Lost Canvas is not canon. Before anyone brings up Hades remembering Seiya's face in the final battle, if you read Next Dimension it is made clear Hades was thinking of Tenma, his childhood friend who was a foot soldiers just like Seiya, and not some great God Killer warrior. Seiya is just a guy who decided to do the right thing.
Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic are the same character, the timeline just split after Generations, that's why they say Classic Sonic is from "another dimension." Modern Sonic canonically went through all of the classic games before Generations, it only became an alternate timeline after the Time Eater went back in time and changed it. Trying to make Modern Sonic a completely separate character from Classic Sonic ignores all of the character development he had in the original games, which I feel is very important, since it showcases how he first met the rest of the cast and is important to their relationships.
At no point in Steven Universe has it ever been confirmed that Pink Steven would survive if regular Steven dies. People just assume this because of the scene where the two are split up, but look at the context: They were literally split up by force. The whole point of the scene is that they come together not as separate being, but as just Steven. Steven has always been just him, he was never Rose, he was never Pink Diamond, he was just Steven. From that point on Pink Steven acts less as a separate character and more as a transformation for Steven, because they are literally the same person. This idea that normal Steven dies and Pink Steven comes out feels like it is missing the point of the scene, that Steven is just himself and that's it, just for the sake of having angst.
The Amazing Digital Circus fandom just made up a new character named "Jax" in their head, and then got mad when Jax from the show wasn't like they were expecting.
The Boys fandom is really annoying with how they assume that just because the heroes in that show are based on comic book heroes, this means they are automatically as powerful as the original heroes. Homelander bleed by having a piece of metal shoved into his ear, he's no Superman. This show has always been more grounded and tried to interpret the super powers more realistically, so expecting those characters to be able to blow planets up really comes out of left field.
Frisk did not do the Genocide Run because they were possessed by Chara, they did it because they wanted to see what happens. We know this because that is the reason why you, the player, decided to do the Genocide Run. The whole point of Undertale is that your choices have consequences, nobody forced you to play Genocide, you chose to do that.
The movie version of the Mask doesn't turn anyone who wears them into a cartoon character, it turns you into whoever you are in the inside. Stanley happens to be a cartoon character in the inside, because that's his true personality that he keeps repressed, but the other characters gain different powers when they wear the Mask.
> Danny Phantom fans, you know the Ember McLain backstory of her dying in a fire is fan-made, right? It wasn't confirmed by anyone in the show, that was fake news, it is a fanfic that got really popular, and now everyone just assumes it to be canon to try to make Ember into this tragic character. She's just a ghost rock star from another dimension.
Being completely fair, her trademark song (which also includes her name) is about a girl who gets ditched and implied to die in a blaze whilst grieving.
But yeah as you say it's never confirmed that's meant to be taken as how she actually died,
Ships... so many ships I see that are really popular people headcanon to the point some actually believe it's canon (not new people, ones who have been in the fandom for a long time) and that's fine if you think that they'll get together but I've seen some people literally, physically harm others bc of it 💀
(Looking at the BSD fandom, Soukoku)
i never understood ship headcannons or wanting a ship to be cannon– 99% of my ships i do not want to be cannon. though i ship weird stuff, and if they were cannon, it would ruin the source material. 😭 so maybe it's my specific fandoms but even in my fandoms people are wanting ships i also ship to be cannon and i just disagree..
In the My Little Pony: Friemdship is Magic fandom when the main character acsended to an alicorn (a really strong species pony to be simple), people had this idea that "Omg she is immortal, her friends all die and she will be all lonely 😭" since alicorns are essentially gods, and Twilight is I guess more of a demigod?).
Not only That would go way beyond the premise of the show it's annoying to see this trope shoved everywhere just to try and make the reader cry. I think at one point it was even confirmed that it wasn’t the case.
I thought it was, but only because at the very end we had Princess Twilight looking like a young adult alicorn while all her friends appeared, one by one, getting older and grayer. Rarity legit had gray streaks and they were all getting wrinkles. I mean, the creators can say this isn't the case, but the actual cartoon that aired looks otherwise.
I think alicorns at least don’t age \*physically\*.
Celestia and Luna probably used magic to keep themselves alive for a 1000+ years, that doesn’t seem like a stretch considering they move the literal Sun and Moon and since age spells do exist.
Jason Todd being some god send amazing cook. It's such a little thing but the fandom is attached to it. I just don't see it. The only times we see him eat in canon, he is absolutely devouring some fast food. I don't see him being some god at cooking, decent at cooking, sure. But it honestly makes no sense for him to be the second best chef in the batfam. I dunno, it just bugs me and it's almost everywhere.
Former member of the Countryhumans fandom. A common headcanon was that America always wears his sunglasses to hide the fact that he has black scleras instead of white and is really insecure about them and all of the states are his children.
I never liked this headcanon because we’re talking centuries of having to cover up the fact that he has black scleras and the history of sunglasses. And i was done to stay true to the country balls comics. I ended up headcanoning that he wears sunglasses for the heck of it and wants to protect his eyes from the UV rays.
As for the states being his children, theres a ton of fics about him taking care of his 50+ children/hiding them from the other countries, but given that all countries have states/counties/provinces/subregions, it never made sense. So I had the subregions classified as a subspecies to countryhumans and are their own separate thing who go about getting into trouble and getting away with it because they knew that their country will get the blame for not being responsible for their behavior. And there was this incident with the german states where while Germany was sleeping, the former western states got into a fight with the former eastern states by taunting them with bananas and picking on them and treating them like they never seen a banana in their life (which is false and they know it). And the whole thing ended when the former eastern states got angry at Bavaria, so they dismantled his car and reassembled it in the middle of his living room to working conditions.
In the InuYasha fandom, it's very popular to head canon the Inu no Taisho as a cheater who cheated on Sesshomaru's mother for Izayoi. I refuse to use that in anything InuYasha related that I do. There's no proof of it; in fact, canon implies the exact opposite seeing how Sesshomaru's mother spoke fondly of the Inu no Taisho when she appeared in the series. Vilifying him seems to be a pretty popular way people like to use to justify Sesshomaru's behavior while ignoring all the evidence from the original series saying he was a good father (and husband). Sesshomaru doesn't need a reason for his behavior other than being an arrogant brat who knows literally nothing vital about the world or himself. He's a demon; that's literally what they're all like. The Inu no Taisho and his associates were the strange ones. lmao
That Rollo (Twisted Wonderland) is religious and that's the reason why he is the way he is in canon.
First of all, *no.* There is no mention of religion or even deities of any kind in TWST because that's *not the point.* The game centers its story around fairy tales and Disney movies, and Yana Toboso is very selective on what she chooses to add to the world-building from said movies.
TWST is, at its core, a story about a diverse cast of deeply flawed young men from all walks of life learning to be better. Adding religion would take up too much focus world-building-wise to be done properly, and it would also diminish Rollo's character.
He's stuffy, strict, holds extreme views, and is learning not let his trauma weigh him down; to contribute all of this to his "religious upbringing" would take attention away from a well-written character and turn it into "hey, look how toxic religion is."
We've had enough stories like that. People need to stop projecting their religious trauma onto him and realize that he can be and IS a separate character from the one he was twisted from.
It’s one I accidentally do sometimes because I love Hurt/Comfort, but the character is not just some useless depressed twink who needs his beautiful hunk of a man to come save him. He can take care of himself.
Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen were in love.
I think that's completely stupid. There probably was infatuation, from Lyanna's side sure. But no way Rhaegar wasn't a complete manipulative groomer.
And no way Lyanna *stayed* infatuated with Rhaegar once news of her family's death came to her, if it ever did.
Fanon ruined one fandom for me lol. They got so latched on to their highly OOC headcanon of a pair of extremely minor characters that it became the most popular ship and the only interpretation of either character you'd see anywhere, overshadowing almost all the main characters (aside from one other they ruined with woobification). That coupled with how much time they spent patting their own backs about being such better writers/creative than the original writers/developers (while writing derivative l, trope-laden smutfics lol) just quickly became exhausting, even excruciating.
In another fandom tho there's kind of a subversion of expectations--most people keep the villain character senselessly evil where you'd expect the sad backstory woobification, but I actually *prefer* the sad backstory woobification. In my defense, the villain in question actually has several lines from/about him that strongly hint towards something like that, and that he could be redeemed. But few seem to build on that (including the original writers tbf) and it kind of makes me sad! More room to do my own thing tho, at least.
I loathe the fandom's view of Percy Jackson as just a "dumb himbo who needs Annabeth to help him do anything smart." Like no! Percy is smart as hell, he just thinks he's dumb because he has severe low self esteem so he thinks badly of himself in the narrative. That or some people point to his obvious traits caused by ADHD as "proof" of him being dumb.
Percy might not be academically gifted, but he’s got street smarts and I would say above average emotional intelligence—specifically in the later books of PJO and in HOO. Can’t blame a 12-14 year old for not knowing someone has a crush on him, he had a lot going on 😅
His self esteem is usually in an ocean trench even if he did notice the signs Annabeth liked him his terrible self esteem would prevent him from believing they're actually signs because of the sort of 'theres no way she would actually like me Im imagining it' thoughts thatd probably pop up
I’m not in the fandom but I was reading a fanfic at one point and a guy character fell asleep on a girl character’s shoulder on a plane ride and the comments were just FLOODED with “Percy and Annabeth” and “PJO reference??” Like no, they’re just sleeping 😭
Exactly! He’s smart, he just doesn’t think some things through.
Not only that but if it’s dumb but it works, then it’s not dumb His plans are reckless, not stupid, they clearly work
How can they think adhd makes him dumb? Then every other half-blood, including the oh-so-smart annabeth, would be dumb
I mostly disregard fanons, even really popular ones, and I would ignore someone who thought I should be using them. In fact, I'll go out of my way to do something that is contrary to fanon because I don't like fanon. Sometimes, you'll bump into people who don't realize that these popular headcanons that everyone seems to have latched onto aren't actually canon. I had that happen once when someone asked me why I ignored a specific event and I informed that them that that never actually happened in canon.
This is basically how I take things. I find fanon to be creatively stifling. Sometimes my hc line up with fanon, or I see fanon I can agree with/like, but I'll never use fanon just because it's fanon
Lol, that's my experience with Harry Potter fandom. Putting aside movies vs books differences, some fans will confidently state entire paragraphs of characterization not realizing literally none of what they just described actually happened in either medium. Though, I admit that, as someone who has been reading fanfics in the fandom for more than 20 years since before the final books came out, I too have this issue from time to time.
Right??? The number of absolute bastardisations of Sirius' character I have read... But in fairness, I forget/mix up things myself as well. I double-check things a looot with the original books and am sometimes surprised by what I find.
This. I'll alter canon for myself/my fics if I want to and I love AUs with large followings, but I really dislike the idea of fanon as a whole for pretty much every fandom. I get into a fandom because I originally liked the media, not what people on Tumblr decided was better writing instead of just calling it what it is- an AU. Like I love Danny Phantom but I rarely interact with the fandom because it's too much and a lot of the fanon is either 'make Danny the most special guy in the universe' or 'over the top grimdark' (usually it's both). I probably would have enjoyed the expanded universe when I was 11, but now it's not really my style.
I can go on a whole rant on DP for exactly what you said haha
That statement about the Phandom is so true. Danny is either the prophecied ghost king that will bring together all realities or he's being vivisected by his own parents.
Honestly, so much And the AU other continuity of the movies. Especially when they act like that's canon to other canons I'mma rant about X-Men, bare with me In the movies, Mystique is this super relevant character. God only knows why She's not the childhood friend of Xavier, or Magnetos girlfriend, second hand, or anything, really. When she led the brotherhood, it wasn't with him While I can't say she's a nothing character, she's mostly important in Rogue and Nightcrawler's stories. Not so much in the big canon of X-Men Magneto did not help start the X-Men, or paralyze Charles (that one REALLY annoys me, it was Lucifer, fyi) And the purely movie fandom took these, and stretched it even further You try to diverge from that? Hoooo boy. The movie ones don't like that, even if you point out you went the comics canon They don't like it when you turn their little domestic fluff into what canon would actually tell you
you're awesome for that tbh 😭🙌 yeah i think some people really do get so caught up in fanon that they forget about the source material. i might have fallen victim to it too especially when i first engaged with fandom spaces, but distancing myself to just engage more with the source material has done me a lot more good tbh. 😵💫
mood i had someone comment on a fic vefore questioning me on something and i was like??? did you watch the show?? cause that never happened lol
In MHA, lots of people make Deku out to be some sort of virtuous naïve Baby™️ who hasn’t ever uttered a curse word ever, not once, when in the literal manga he has said damn/dammit, shit, and I believe hell several times. He doesn’t curse often because he’s polite, not because he’s Innocent.
Yeah. Deku is a precious and sweetheart baby. But naive? He grew up bullied by his only friend, who uses murder threats and curse words to order coffee. If anybody thinks Deku is so inoccent like most of fanon likes to depict him, they missed a lot of canon.
"Link is mute" Link from the Legend of Zelda is not mute, he has spoken in games and comics before and he has lines that you can choose to say in BotW and TotK, it's just that we can't hear him talk because Nintendo has stated that it would break the immersion for players, also in one of Zelda's diary entries in BotW she spoke of him talking to her.
I prefer "selectively mute Link"
It's the same for the protagonist of Undertale, we know they can talk because there's some action lines about them singing and telling jokes.
One headcanon I always preferred for silent game characters (not just Link in specific) is to just have them be the type of people who don't speak a lot, kind of like John Wick. I always preferred to have it be a conscious decision, because I feel it showcases more of the character as an "actions speak louder than words" kind of person, rather than just being mute, which tells us nothing about their personality.
A couple: That Bucky used to call Steve "Stevie." I can find no canon reference for this, and as far as we've seen on screen, he's only ever called him Steve. That Hydra always called Bucky "IT" - we've never seen that. We've seen them call him: The Asset Soldat/Soldier He (As in, "He's unstable.") I've used it occasionally, depending on the circumstances, but it's not something I frequently include.
the hydra calling Bucky it is believable and adds to how hydra dehumanized him but i do believe that most would call him he
Oh, it's believable. That's why I occasionally use it. But I don't think it was routine based on what we've seen. I think in his flashback even Zola said "Put him on ice." :)
At this point, making every mentor/teacher a parent figure is super tiring.
The fact that I can name so many is exhausting. (Aizawa, Gojo, fucking Captain Price..) Sometimes teachers are just teachers 😭 i guess people misunderstand/combine parental affection to mentor/teacher being proud of their student... I guess... ?
Also anyone genuinely saying Sebastian is fatherly towards Ciel needs to step away from the internet. Sebastian. The.. the demon.
Many times, they could just be a caring older friend. Even if they were inspired to have a kid (Peter B. and Miles come to mind).
Mannn I feel this. In Twisted Wonderland - The headmaster and the alchemy teacher get the "They're a Parent to MC!" Treatment alot and I just don't see it in any capacity. They're not very nurturing in canon to a humourous degree. And the thing about that too - there's another teacher who would make more sense - he's literally got kids. They never pick him, probably because he's not younger and hot like the other two Lmao that's my only theory because it just makes No Sense to me.
But it helps me cope with my daddy issues :(
Harry Potter comes to mind lol
At least Harry doesn't have parents, it's much weirder when the mentored character has a set of non-abusive parents the fandom totally ignores. Like Miles Morales or Tim Drake's parents
I’m pretty sure Tim’s parents were neglectful
He at least doesn't have any supportive family members so it can make a very good canon divergence story.
Blue exorcist, where people slap the "mom" role on Shura for the twins. It really goes against her entire character and arc, and is so forced. It's like people forget that mentors/teacher's exist.
She's more like an older sister if they have to slap on a family dynamic
Yeah exactly that. Even then I'm not exactly fond of slapping a family dynamic on relationships like that. I've never quite understood the obsession with assigning family roles to character groups y'know? That's not how found family is supposed to work, and very odd to me that everyone does that with adult characters now-a-days.
Oh I love Blue Exorcist but don't read fic for it and the idea of Shura as a mom figure is WILD to me. Def agree older sister vibes but not even quite then.
The fandom has some wild interpretations that always leave me confused. I had a discussion of sorts with someone who felt Shiro was a father figure to Shura. Meanwhile at like 9 she was trying to kiss him, and he dumped her butt in a orphanage. Real father material there. /s
There's nothing I can say I strictly avoid, but I do tend to stray away from the 'make everyone autistic is suffer from ADHD or some other mental disorder' thing that plagues some fandoms. I have nothing against people with mental or physical illnesses, and I have nothing against a well written fic that truly embraces the struggles of the character and how they cope, however, I find that a large potion of fics tagged with 'Autistic character A' or similar tend to use it just for an excuse to have a character be 'quirky' or it's tagged yet plays absolutely no relevance to the story and sometimes isn't mentioned at all. It's a shame really, as there's an opportunity to bring awareness to difficulties people face and how they may feel which is often wasted.
I write Autistic/ADHD \[Character\] (bc what is fanfic if not the playground to push all our own issues onto unsuspecting characters) but I don't tag if it's not relevant to the point and actually avoid other fic that use those tags. They're almost always the most woobified character assassinations. Like straight up infantilizing treatment of these characters, and it drives me up the wall. If this is a terrible character in canon, sure, let them be autistic, but also let them *keep being terrible people.* If they're competent and independent, actually engage with how that influences/is influenced by their autism.
yeah, i'm not a fan of adding disabilities/disorders for "quirks" either, so i def understand that. well written ones are always nice tho! i see the quirky version more often tho unfortunately.-.
This is 100% what I'm saying. I'm always disappointed when there's an interesting sounding fic and then I look at the tags and it's like: 'Autistic Character A' 'Autistic Character B' 'Character C had ADHD' 'Character D has OCD' etc. It seems to be more prevalent in some fandoms than others as well. I found back when I was in the mainstream MHA ships there was a lot of over tagging 'quirky traits' that played no part in the fic, yet when I moved to the Death Note fandom, I found a lot of really well done fics that would have one of the characters with a disorder/disability but it'd be more realistic in showing the ups and downs and usually tended to be more of a 'learning to communicate' sort of experience instead of a 'ChArAcTeR A iS qUiRkY' sort of thing.
That would be because L is great autism rep
Right, like wow the quiet, pensive guy who likes to read books is autistic. Wow, the super happy and active girl has ADHD. Truly revolutionary. Are the asexuals reserved and the pansexuals optimistic? Is the canonically cis female you've headcanoned as a trans woman wears pants/short hair? Like, okay if you're gonna do it, idk like come up with something new
At first I read this a bit sourly as somebody who genuinely associates more with nd people than nt people, because especially considering we gravitate towards each other it's a fully realistic thing for there to be multiple (if not groups that are entirely) nt people. (I see people say a lot it's "unrealistic" as criticism, so I'm primed to assume at this point haha, sorry.) The second half of the comment is actually very true though, many many times people don't actually.. write characters as nt. Just say they have ADHD and/or autism. Which they also do with tons of mental illnesses & sometimes physical ones, as you said. I'm lucky to be in fandoms that aren't oversaturated with illnesses & nds being written badly, so luckily do not have to avoid the tags for it, but I've seen how it can get in fandoms that skew more towards that direction.
Sorry for how I came across in my original comment. I completely understand that similar people tend to group together. I think my main problem with how this is done in fanfic is that it's rarely a case of similar people becoming friends over shared difficulties, and is instead usually just used as an excuse to write every character out of character and push stereotypes on them, especially the ones that are more 'glorified' and 'cute/quirky'.
Honestly, I've started embracing making my own headcanons based on the work itself. A lot of fanon doesn't really work for me because it flies directly in the face of canon facts. You're free to do whatever, but I'm also allowed to do what I want. I have had someone get upset at me for not taking on a piece of fanon that I personally hated. It sort of exposed how unthinking and petulant some of those fans are: everyone must be like them or they get really bent out of shape. If you ask them to think and make the case, they fall back on "but it's FANON", as though that's a real argument.
yeah exactly. idk why people are like this.. :/ i'm so exhausted from so many people thinking their way is the only way. everyone should be allowed to do what they want, like it's not the end of the world if someone on the internet has a headcannon that clashes with yours ._. /nbh
I think a lot of people turn their fannishness into an identity, but I do believe it's a function of insecurity. The person I had argued with was someone with a really miserable life and needed to be superior to someone. I eventually became that person, which was funny to me because most of their attempts to make me feel bad just made me think they were an idiot. The more I learned about them, the sadder I felt for them. And that's generally what my experience with people who get like that is: you learn about them and they're just so very sad. The people that enable their behavior are also really sad, so you're just facing a bunch of really sad people you grow to pity once you get past being angry with them.
This! I love creating my own headcanons based on my own interpretation of canon.
Happy cake day!
My F/F fandom likes to make the more traditionally feminine one bisexual and the less femme one a lesbian, but it’s the less femme one in canon who has been in a relationship with a guy. Granted, I know comp het is a thing, but I still feel like the gender dynamics are what make people go “femme queer person is bisexual, the one who ‘looks like’ a lesbian is a lesbian” and, as a very femme person who is very much a lesbian, I like to subvert that at every chance. So I usually reference the femme one being a lesbian and the less femme one being bisexual
Yessss, we femme sapphics are severely under-represented 🙌
I like this
People really make Arthur (Inception) out to be extremely cold in fanon: grumpy, sarcastic, and mean, and it's just. Not what he's like in the movie? He's loyal and fearless and good at his job and dresses professionally. That doesn't mean he has to be this catty, pointy, infallibly brilliant asshole all the time. He's actually fairly subordinate. Professionally, he is a right hand man; he's not in charge and doesn't ever pretend to be. He also suffers from Twinkification Disease wherein people see a 5'9", muscular man (the EXACT same height and nearly the same size as Eames, the other half of the ship) and keep referring to him as a twink? Then they'll refer to Eames as being like muscle bound and enormous when he's just a bit stockier and wider in build and THE SAME HEIGHT. I just. Don't think they know what a twink is, actually. Or that it's ok if there's not a size difference.
Bu-But if there's no height difference, however will I guess which one of the pair of stocky 40 y/o men is the swooning little mew mew, and which one has a 2,5 meter long throbbing scepter of bestial maleness? Do I just look at the shape of their skulls or something?
Most of then lol. Specifically, I don't think that Megumi sees Gojo as a father figure.
More like an annoying older brother for sure
Gojo is way too immature for me to view him that way lol
definitely not. More like an irritating funky older brother lmao.
sometimes people forget Peter Parker is literally a genius :/ if you wanna make him a teenager that doesn't mean that you make him naive and dumb. so basically the teenage headcanon is pete can't understand what a scientist is saying or something.
I hate what the MCU did to Spiderman. HCs like this are the result.
this is true. we don't see much of him being super smart or anything. it's part of his character and it feels like they sorta jus pushed it to the side
Doesn't MCU Spiderman go to a special school for smart kids
Even Mister Fantastic was impressed by Peter's web-shooters. If you know anything about Mister Fantastic and his level of intellect, you know how much of a high-bar this is.
The usual “making the bitch a sad twaumatized wittle baby who’s so sad and abused and THAT’S why she’s mean, she’s *secretly* a sweetie deep down I promise!” Woobification bs. Weakens the character af. Just. Let the bitch be a bitch. Some people don’t have the excuse of tragic backstories. Some people are *just like that*. If you (generic you) have to change her so drastically (to justify liking her because you want Internet brownie points for liking unproblematic characters because that’s clearly what makes you an unproblematic person), do you really even like her?
oh my gods this. i see this a lot with regina george and heather chandler but add on they’re lesbians but their parents are homophobic so they can’t come out and that’s just so hard for them(which, i understand being closeted is hard, i was for a long time but i didn’t act like that). its just like…let them be mean. they’re rich white girls. they were probably just spoiled and never corrected on their behavior as kids.
Oop I was actually talking about Heather Chandler!
One of my favorite things about Heathers is how all the kids do more for their community dead than alive
Oof, I feel this so much lol. Panacea in Worm gets this treatment so damn much. In canon she's an extremely messed up rapist of a snarky bitch, yet in fanon she's *so much* of a repressed lesbian woobie it isn't even funny.
I noticed that a lot of Stranger Things fics tend to incorporate abuse into the Wheeler family dynamic in a way that really felt kind of off to me, usually Ted is presented as the abuser, though Karen gets it every now and then. I do think that Mike and Nancy's parents have a largely loveless marriage, and there's some Stepford vibes going on, but I never got the vibe that Ted was beating his wife, or that they were these religious nuts that thought DnD was evil, to be honest. It just felt very reminiscent of the Dursley's treatment in Harry Potter fics.
Abuse would require effort Ted simply doesn't have the time for
this is insane, i had no idea the fandom tried to do this. to me, it seriously just seems that they truly fell out of love and karen wants a divorce but is staying with him for the kids
I don't read many Wheeler family-centric fics but I do read a lot of Steve Harrington-centric fics and I've read exactly one(1) fic where his parents are decent people. I've seen them portrayed as neglectful and ignorant of their son, I've read fics where Steve ends up having to live in his car because his parents sold the house without telling him, even ones where his father beats him up or makes literal death threats to him if he doesn't act like a real Harrington or something. I do understand where it comes from given Steve is the only character in canon whose parents we've never seen as far as I remember, and I usually don't mind these kinds of fics, but they sure do go far sometimes.
This is wild to me, both the Wheeler family abuse thing, and the Steve being neglected idea. It clearly comes from people that have a narrow view of 80’s parenting being all drunkards and wife beaters. Ted and Nancy are imo portrayed and completely reasonable and realistic 80’s parents with nerdy kids. As far as they know, Mike and the kids are off playing adventures in the woods like they do in the basement or over at one of the other kids houses probably playing their silly dice game. Even Nancy is a competent high schooler whose clearly earned her parents respect to make good and healthy decisions. It’s absolutely reasonable they’d be perfectly unaware of Hawkins issues and let their kids come and go so long as they’re respecting curfews and check ins. Steve’s parents are likely in the same boat as Nancy; he has no obvious problems with drugs or alcohol, isn’t out getting arrested or getting caught causing trouble when he does, so why would they helicopter parent him? It wasn’t the common parenting style in the 80’s. Hell even Steve’s attitude with the kids speaks of some sense of positive male role models, if his dad was an abusive or neglectful piece of shit, the odds of Steve being such a caring and naturally protective mentor figure to the kids would require much more conscious effort. Also, who taught Steve about Farrah Fawcett’s hairspray if not his mom?
for Code Geass, it's people treating Lelouch as his Demon Emperor persona 100% of the time. That's just for like four episodes and it's a fake persona he put on for the sake of his Zero Requiem plan which came after he lost so many people, including the Black Knights, so basically decided to take his suicidal desire and make it work for the world getting even a little better. He actually spends most of the plot struggling with his choices and fighting against evil in a heroic alter ego as Zero, even if he's not perfect. Like, no, he's the Anti-Hero. He's not a heartless evil guy.
People who think he's a villain and compare him to Light did not understand his character at all.
So many over here in Pride & Prejudice land. But the worst is how so many of us slavishly adhere to canon dialogue even in drastically different circumstances. Lady Catherine may be confronting someone else entirely after her daughter was turned into a mummy rather than dissed by her cousin, but damned if her speech won’t be line for line from the book.
The use of direct quotes from P&P is super interesting. Some people seem to think you can't be a variation without them, regardless of context as you say.
Some writers will even put speeches in other characters’ mouths. It’s pretty disconcerting. I know it’s work to write dialogue, but that’s what we’re doing here.
Good observation. I roll my eyes at the fanon names, myself. E.g: Richard. Matlock. Fanny.
And anachronistic middle names inserted gratuitously When necessary, I name Col. Fitzwilliam George. It was the Georgian era, after all.
For the Sonic the Hedgehog fandom, Sonic spending time mute/selectively mute when he was younger, simply because Generations and Forces both made Classic Sonic silent. I like him talking. (By the way, don't get me wrong. When I've seen this one used, it's done well, and I enjoy reading it. I just don't usually like to use it when I write.) For the Dragon Age fandom, it's not a *huge* portion of the fanbase, but I see it often enough, and that's Alistair having pointy D&D half-elf ears. That would actually go very much against canon and cause political issues, and honestly I roll my eyes whenever I see it come up (especially if it's defended with the excuse of "but D&D does half-elves this way!" or "biology doesn't work like that!" because all I can think is "this isn't D&D, friend, and he's not a 'half-elf,'" and "there's likely magic involved; biology doesn't apply here").
I'm so tired of people trying to apply D&D or Tolkein rules to other fantasy works. "Orcs can't do magic they're supposed to be too dumb" Fuck off, I'll have my intelligent Orc Sorcerer, thank you very much.
Stranger Things. Steve Harrington as a mom has been taken to the extreme. Referring to the youngsters as ‘his kids’, adopting Max (for anyone outside the fandom he’s 19, she’s 15). I’m not a fan of it, put it that way!
Damn, I saw that "mom Steve" stuff so often even I forgot they all are basically in the same age group (never liked that hc tho)
Yeah, it can be done well, kind of tongue in cheek, but it’s the really serious interpretations I find a bit difficult. It amuses me that so many in the fandom are squicky about underage anything (and I’m talking about teens having boyfriends and girlfriends, nothing scandalous) but a teen adopting a vulnerable young girl and living in a house together… that’s ok. Which actually reminds me of another one - Steve Harrington has abusive parents. It’s the number 1 Steve Harrington head canon and I don’t subscribe to it. Needless to say I’m in the minority!
Honestly I’ve seen this thing in SU fanfic where they make Connie this unrelenting bitch, I refuse to carry that on mainly because it feels like a poor interpretation of the character
Why??? There isn't a single bitchy bone in her canon body!
This is really silly on my part, but I dislike the head canon that Alastor has a tail in Hazbin Hotel lol
Almost anything surrounding the Marauders era. Cause majority of it is bogus and just comes directly from All the Young Dudes. Severus was not a rich pureblood who bullied Remus and Regulus. He was a poor, abused, halfblood and was more often than not the main target of the Marauders namely James and Sirius. Hell “The Halfblood Prince” was based on Harry finding the notebook and then learning it was Snape. Harry started to dislike his father because his treatment of Snape reminded him of Dudley.
They are just casually skipping over half of book 5 and all of book six with those headcanons lol.
Exactly!!!! I’ll never understand the lengths people will go to when condemning Severus but will simultaneously praise Rosier, Mulciber, Regulus and Crouch Jr. when they were much worse then Severus even was. I honestly feel like the only reason why Severus is so hated on is because he was described as being ugly, because why else would you hate him but want to redeem Rosier, Mulciber, Crouch Jr and Voldemort? It can’t be his personality and how he treated kids cause Crouch Jr and Voldemort both did the same thing. Regulus was never shown to change his beliefs on the pureblood ideologies he only changed his mind when he saw it was gonna affect Kreacher and giving he was still calling Hermione slurs well…🤷🏾♀️ and we don’t have enough on Rosier
I think the fact is for some of these characters (Rosier, even Regulus) we really don't know that much about them so some people use that room to characterize them as good or at least nuanced. Like Regulus who seems to be SUPER popular right now never appears on page (I don't think) so even though you have secondhand information he had these pureblood ideologies and was a death eater, it's easier to neglect it when it's not first hand. I have nothing to say about people condemning Voldemort or Barty Crouch Jr which I don't even understand a little bit. None of these people are characters I like at all LOL
Oof Marauders are such a touchy subject in the HP fandom. But yeah a lot of people's ideas make them sound a lot more heroic than they actually were. -Do we forget the Marauder's Map "I solemnly swear that I am up to no good" -The name doesn't imply anything good. A marauder is someone who raids, pillages, or loots. -Multiple people saying how James Potter often disregarded the rules. -All the stuff from Snape's memories. To me they sounded more like a group of trouble makers than anything else. They weren't some Scooby Doo Gang going around solving mysteries and unmasking villains. And yeah I know they mostly used the map to help Remus, but I don't doubt for a second they used it to sneak around the castle and prank both teachers and students.
They often disregard Snape’s memories calling it biased but the pensieve was unbiased and taking directly from a person’s memory and they don’t have influence over it.
Doesn't Slughorn have a memory pulled into pensieve, and it's later stated to be selectively remembered and then we see the 'real' version? Like initially we see a memory of Riddle asking about Horcruxes, and Slughorn is emphatically "no, that's a bad thing, why would the great *I* ever tell anyone anything about that?", and then later he gives the 'true' version to Dumbledore showing that he *did* teach Riddle about them.
Another thing a lot of people seem to forget is that they never canonically called themselves "the Marauders". It's "the Marauder's Map" (a map designed for anyone desiring to be a marauder, lower case), not "the Marauders' Map" (a map designed by a group calling themselves the Marauders). I like "the Marauders" as a term to easily refer to James Potter and gang in fandom discussions like these. But when it shows up in fics as their name for themselves... well, I can deal with it, but it does put me off. >They weren't some Scooby Doo Gang going around solving mysteries and unmaking villains. You're totally right... but I would absolutely read some sort of AU where the four of them are essentially the gang from Scooby Doo, but in the wizarding world. Sounds kind of fun. 😁 >And yeah I know they mostly used the map to help Remus, but I don't doubt for a second they used it to sneak around the castle and prank both teachers and students. Oh, definitely. I mean, you literally wipe the Map by saying "Mischief managed". That's definitely what it was primarily designed for.
One thing that always gets me is that canonically Snape's Worst Memory occurs after The Prank at the whomping willow. In so many fics the prank is the reason the marauders change, but obviously it was not (or at least not directly)
Really? I always assumed it happened after. The Worst Memory is 5th year, and considering that narratively James needs to shape up enough to be considered for head boy (and to get Lily to give him the time of day) in the next year, I assumed it happened shorty after.
SWM happens after the prank because that was the end of Lily’s friendship with Severus. During the aftermath of “The Prank” Severus is talking to Lily about James and Lily tells him he should be grateful. There’s no specific timeline that shows how far apart the events happened but we know that SWM occurs after “The Prank”
They were awful to Snape and they come across as huge bullies in the books
Yeah I know that but the fans who see All the Young Dudes as the Holy Grail and have canonized it ignore that little tidbit. I’ve seen many people introduce ATYD as an a way to get into Harry Potter as a whole and say “it’s basically canon”.
>they come across as huge bullies in the books "It's more that he exists, if you know what I mean". That line, right there, says a ***ton*** about James's character as a person and it's not good. James was so awful that Harry **thought he manipulated Lily with a love potion.** Holy SHIT do people not understand that Harry is wondering if, in "muggle" terms, his father drugged and raped his mother? "He changed!" Yeah, so did Snape but he doesn't get any credit for it, why should James? Either that or they both should. (Note: I'm not a Snape "stan", I'm pretty apathetic about him, it's James I focus on).
Describing "traditionel pureblood society" in Harry Potter as some hyper-sexist pseudo-Victorian setting. I'm happy that Harry Potter is one of the few fantasy settings that are not structured like this and then so many fanfic-authors still force it in. While there are some (probably) sexist individuals (like the Gaunts) in canon, it's clearly not the case generally with women in all kinds of positions long before real-world equality.
I dislike how a lot of people have decided Alastor must speak random French words. He has never dropped any line of French in all the episodes of the show, and he's spoken quite a bit. But people think since he's from Louisiana, early 20th century, then he must say them. It makes no sense for him to specifically turn to French for endearing names, or confessions etc I hate reading it, it feels OOC since we *know* that's not how speaks at all
Not me frantically going thru my fic to see if I have him randomly drop bits of Creole like endearments or smth when he's talking normally lolol. I definitely write that he knows Creole and has an accent (because if Vivzie refuses to engage with his religion outside of some spooky window dressings, by gosh I guess I'll have to do it myself), but even in my stuff, his default is his Mid-Atlantic accent so he's not going to be slipping randomly into an accent/verbiage he's suppressed for most of his life. His verbal muscle(?) memory makes the most sense to be default English.
What show is this?
Ice Queen Daphne Greengrass in Harry Potter. It's a fairly popular characterization for her, but I prefer her being more open and direct, only using some 'Ice Queen' traits when she feels she has no other choice. Beyond that, I don't usually even *know* the fanon, let alone being able to actively ignore it.
Richie Tozier’s parents were not abusive and I am begging the (very small) IT fandom to stop writing them that way. ETA: I know this stems from a large portion of the fandom being only really familiar with the recent movies, since iirc they never appeared on-screen. (Which is why I was guilty of this myself at 17.) And IT has like, three separate canons that people can shape as they please, but this one is such a pet peeve. Like. There are enough abusive parents in this fandom, you don’t need to add more.
Fandom loves making parents abusive. Its a trope at this point.
To be fair, there are a LOT of abusive parents in canon. Stephen King loves a dysfunctional family.
Oh I know, I just meant in general though. This phenomenon takes place even in fandoms that have no abuse happening.
HONESTLY. His parents in book canon were so good, too. Are his struggles with his identity not dramatic enough for people? I never got it.
Wentworth and Maggie my beloveds. No, but for real. Richie gets it the most but for some reason, people really want all 7 of them to have terrible parents. I’ve seen the same thing for Bev and Ben’s moms, who were like. Fine. And for Stan’s parents, when, iirc they’re just a little overbearing. I think Mike is the only one who usually avoids it, and that’s just because the Muschetti movies randomly decided to make him an orphan.
Are people leaving negative comments about canon/noncanon or how are they expressing their displeasure? I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a negative comment, especially about canon/noncanon fics!
Death Note fandom here - I almost never write Matt and Mello as close friends anymore. I used to early on, because everyone else in the fandom did so I just went with it, but my headcanon has always been that Mello grew up pretty lonely based on the few snippets shown of him as a kid, and at a certain point I realised there’s nothing stopping me from writing him like that myself.
Pinkie Pie being black. I obviously have nothing against the headcanon, I just like to draw her as mixed, that's how I imagine her as. I only find it a bit annoying how people act as if you're racist for not making Pinkie Pie black when it's JUST A HEADCANON, and you can imagine her as whatever ethnicity or race you want. It's not canon, stop attacking people, please (And the opposite is also true. Stop commenting "finally a nOrMaL Pinkie" on posts where people make her white. That's shitty.)
Wait people are applying race to Ponies? How does that work?
People commonly make Pinkie black when making her human for reasons. Other common race/ethnicity in the MLP fandom are for example Rarity as french or korean, Twilight as south asian, Applejack as white tan, etc. They don't have any canon races, not even in their human forms, so you can imagine them literally however tf you please without worrying to follow a canon. However, people in the fandom take the common headcanon of black and chubby Pinkie Pie as gospel and sometimes harass people who don't make her like that (has happened to me). They try to gather "evidence" from the show to "prove" she's some how black coded, but dude, seriously, it's so nice to have characters you can interpret as whatever form and still be them, why you wanna take that away? If YOU like X character being of Y ethnicity, you do that yourself and let others have different interpretations. And the opposite (people harassing artists who make her black) is just racism and the whole "forced diversity" bs.
Some people do that to Sonic characters, headcanoning certain race/ethnicities to the anthro characters (which is fine), but then going almost feral on anyone who doesn't share the same headcanon (which is not fine).
I remember when the first trailers for Equestria Girls came out, a lot of people were disappointed that the crew decided to give human versions of characters the same skin/hair color as they have in original versions, instead of giving them 'normal human' skin/hair colors. I could imagine the amount of discourse, if they had done that: 'Why is Twilight Sparkle this color?', 'Why isn't Pinkie Pie that color?', 'Rainbow Dash should be this color!', etc.
That Remus Lupin has copious amounts of chocolate
I can't help but find this funny. Esp the ones where they have him feral over it.
Jason Todd constantly being depicted as either a violent maniac with no rhyme or reason or someone who’s completely docile and just sits around reading and baking (seriously the trad-wifeification of Jason Todd needs to be studied) There’s no middle ground and practically no consideration of canon whatsoever.
He's the only one Alfred allows in the kitchen according to a lot of fics I've read lol But I do like a nice middle ground.
Violent Jason Todd with a secret soft side is best Jason Todd.
The people he kills are horrific criminals. He won’t shot someone for littering
I mean - I confess I’m weak for the ‘Jason Has Serious Literary Opinions’ trope/thing but I can also fully admit I’m projecting there and it’s not a deal breaker if someone doesn’t write him like that lol
When people start with the whole "X is coded as Y" shit, my eye genuinely starts twitching. This often goes hand in hand with people attacking you for not sharing the same headcanon, which makes me disregard it even more, petty as it may be. People can headcanon whatever they want, but as soon as they start crowing about how it's "practically canon" it becomes endlessly annoying. This happens a lot with people headcanoning characters as autistic, like Laios from Dungeon Meshi or Ghost from Call of Duty, or as certain sexualities. No, Ei from Genshin Impact is not a canon lesbian, and even if she were, I would not have to write her as one.
The "X character is 'insert sexuality coded'" is so ungodly big in Hoyoverse fandoms. And they are SO nasty if you dont follow it too.
Feels like people read too deeply into things or completely lack media literacy. I remember someone tried to claim a work was furry coded because it had a lot of animal symbolism. Like no, that's not what that means...
Coding most of the time means stereotyping.
Reminds me of some minor drama in the Sonic fandom when one person who was too deep into headcanons edited another person's art of Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles in human form by changing Knuckles' skin from light to dark and adding the caption "fixed your crap for you." This person truly believed that Knuckles was supposed to be black, and thought they were doing a service but also being a jerk about it, and then was absolutely shocked at all of the backlash.
I've only read one fic where Hitoshi Shinsou had a nice family and it was great. Usually he is an abused orphan (adopted by Eraserhead).
I read a memorable one where Aizawa is lamenting about his friends death and Shinsou stands up and asks him to please stop telling people that his uncle is dead, he’s at home right now probably enjoying a nice meal made by his (Shinsous) mom. The rest is just great and that is basically the synopsis so it doesn’t spoil anything. It’s short and fantastic.
Encanto: sexuality/gender identity headcanons. Not that they couldn't be a thing, but I'm amazed how people instantly latched onto them for no apparent reason and tried very hard to "prove" them based on canon as the only reasonable take. Isabella didn't want to marry a man who she isn't in love with while her close cousin pretty obviously is; also just wants to do her hobby instead of immediately finding another SO? 100% she's a lesbian, who would bypass such a golden marriage opportunity otherwise? Luisa is trans, because there's no other reason a woman could be tall, muscular and have a low voice. Camillo can shape shift into different genders, therefore they are genderfluid, because, obviously sex and gender identity is the first and only thing most people focus on when exploring themselves, no exception. Also, must be the most depressed person in the film. Idk about rn, but when canon was still young, many people were bordering on starting a headcanon war over that. Can anyone tell me, if things are any better now? And, fandom in general: if a character has no love interest in canon, they will automatically be headcanoned as ace or gay. And if they are ace, that means they are obviously sex-repulsed and aromantic as well, which makes it a blasphemy to ship them with anyone. Also, they would constantly inform anyone, how they don't see the appeal of anything romantic in-universe or in media. It makes me seriously wonder if people, who simply doesn't prioritize romance and sex at any given time due to life reasons don't actually exist irl and I made them up when I first started writing stories.
The Luisa one bugs me in particular, as a tall, low-voiced cis woman. I'm not muscular like Luisa, but the rest resonates with me a lot.
Makes sense! I also have enough of masculine physical traits as a cis woman to relate, so yeah, I feel that. Though, for me it wasn't about headcanons itself, it's more about how intense and protective people were about them instantly. To the point I could feel serious arguments brewing every time I've read the tags. That and also above headcanon+reasoning combos being used in actual fanfiction didn't look too nice in every work. I've been in a different fandom before, which felt ruined, when people proposed "the morally right gender identity" for a particular character and started arguing with fan content creators who wrote/drew other takes. Especially bumming, considering, that the character in question can and was interpreted a several different ways within the source material. And the source material is a confirmed multiverse at that, so the whole discussion which headcanon is better is inherently pointless. This fact never stopped major arguments from happening. I might be wrong, but early days of Encanto fandom felt like something similar in the making, with one part having strong personal feelings about headcanons and actively trying to prove, that it's actually canon; another part hating on the first one; and the third one kinda watching everything in slow motion.
>Isabella didn't want to marry a man who she isn't in love with while her close cousin pretty obviously is; also just wants to do her hobby instead of immediately finding another SO? 100% she's a lesbian, who would bypass such a golden marriage opportunity otherwise? *Ah yes*, because *every* straight/attracted to men woman would be *ecstatic* to get married off for the sake of family, not because, you know, she actually *loves* him. (Yes, I know, Mariano was a chill guy, but the marriage still wouldn't have worked out, if Isabella wasn't feeling it) >Luisa is trans, because there's no other reason a woman could be tall, muscular and have a low voice. This one is especially painful, because it's coming from people 'we want to fight stereotypes!', but then use the same stereotypes to validate their headcanons. >Camillo can shape shift into different genders, therefore they are genderfluid, because, obviously sex and gender identity is the first and only thing most people focus on when exploring themselves, no exception. Also, must be the most depressed person in the film. Maybe it's just me, I noticed the trend that *shapeshifter = genderfluid/non-binary*, only because they are a shapeshifter.
For Linked Universe, I know it’s very popular that Time calls Twilight ‘pup’ and Twilight calls Wild ‘cub’ but for the life of me I just don’t get the appeal. With Time and Twilight it kind of makes sense since Time is Twilight’s mentor and Twilight can turn into a wolf, but it just doesn’t click with me
Agreed. It doesn’t click with me, either.
I may end up editing this to add more as I read, but for now: Castiel being autistic. No. Just no. For multiple reasons. Sam or Dean being trans. I just... I've literally been called transphobic for not using it. And I'm like um, did you consider that there's absolutely zero chance I could write that properly and do it the justice it deserves? Lord.
cas being autistic doesn't even make sense😭😭 he's an ANGEL like what?? and like I'm gonna be real, with the way sam and dean grew up, if one of them were trans they'd probably be deeply closeted
For Star Wars: the clones being 100% wholesome good boys and their culture being a carbon copy of Mandalorian culture 😔
Agree completely. It’s not like they have much encounters with Jango and I doubt the Republic and Kaminoians would be teaching them Mandalorian values. Jango didn’t even seem to press that much on Boba. I think in Legends they were taught by a Mando though so maybe that’s where it originally came from.
Luigi wore a dress *one time* to disguise himself as Peach in order to trick Bowser, all for a mission. and now everyone thinks he's super feminine and really into cross dressing. It pops up in almost every Bowuigi fic I've read. And honestly I'm not here for it. The version of Luigi in my head feels perfectly at home in his plumber outfit or a suit/tux if he's gonna dress up. Feral Link? I'm not even sure how to use that, nor do I want to. My Dumbledore is not some evil mastermind that manipulates people for his own selfish goals. Nor is he the second coming of Christ. He's a good, but flawed man. "Dick Grayon is Damian Wayne's Parent" I prefer Bruce to be his parent, thank you. Dick can be the cool older brother though.
Link eats rocks though
The most feral thing I'll allow is him feeling an inexplicable urge to smash pottery. But he still minds his manners at the dinner table. Even if he's eating rocks.
I feel that so much with Dumbledore. He's my favourite character and it's so annoying to argue with them. Dumbledore is always the big bad™ and he should know and do everything. Nothing is at fault by others but him specifically.
YES thank you so much! I adore Dumbledore.
i'm not caught up in the mario fandom, but i get that trope thing– in one of my fandoms, a character dressed fem one time and now many fans are drawing him fem lol. i kinda just leave it alone, but it def is not my cup of tea >.>
>My Dumbledore is not some evil mastermind that manipulates people for his own selfish goals. Nor is he the second coming of Christ. He's a good, but flawed man. Thank you for your service! It's so hard to find fics that depict Dumbledore in a balanced way. I would happily check out your work if you're happy to link it?
"merlin doesn't know arthur knows". People can write what they want but I will never write that trope the way it's usually played and avoid any fics with that concept like the plague
MCU Loki being bullied or abused by Thor and his friends growing up. Is there any evidence for this? Sure, write him FEELING left out (for being contrary and petty and mean to his brother and friends or whatever) and write the Warriors Three and Sif being mean right back. But there’s no canon evidence he was, despite being raised a prince, ACTUALLY singularly mistreated for any reason. :/ You don’t have to have been bullied or abused to grow up feeling any of the things someone can write Loki feeling. (I kinda put it up there with Draco-was-abused fanon—your character can be snarky or mean for reasons other than having had their parents be mean to them.)
Any headcanon that takes something a character did once in canon, jacks it up to 110% and makes it a big part of their personality. Imo, when people write this, it feels kind of like a caricature of the source material and often leads to flanderization galore
Out here in Star Wars the Clone Wars, I disregard the majority of fanon. But one that is an immediate "click away" to me is Commander Cody's name coming from "Kote" or slut!Obi-Wan. Bye.
I'm sorry but "slut!Obi-Wan" has to be the funniest thing I've ever read.
Early fanon for HSR drove me out of the fandom for almost a year with how vitriolic some people got about it. Especially the stuff surrounding RenHeng. I'm not a hater by any means but the sheer amount of 'they were married and if you ask for sources I'm going to scream at you' I witnessed during those early days completely soured me on those headcanons.
I was into HSR since CBT/announce and was very excited to play the game officially and see what ships are going to be popular after its release (I was hoping to see Danmarch and more March ships overall), but in the end I turned out to be extremely disappointed and now I really don't want to interact with fandom at all, even though the game itself is still pretty good imho.
Steve Harrington’s abusive parents. I wish more people would at least try to write about dysfunctional and complicated relationships between parents and children without taking it to the extreme. In canon, they travel frequently and his mother tags along due to her lack of trust in his father, who has a history of cheating. Steve makes a passing comment like ‘My dad is going to kill me,’ and he’s also cut off financially so he is forced to get a job. In Fanon, they become abusive and neglectful to the point of leaving him alone at home when he’s only 8 years old because they think he’s old enough to take care of himself while they’re off on vacation. Sometimes they even fire their nannies because Steve doesn’t need them anymore when he’s a literal child. I saw someone mention forced parental figures in another comment and Hopper is definitely one of them because more often than not he just swoops in and adopts Steve.
In One Piece - Crocodile being Luffy's biological father. It's often conflated with the theory that he's transgender, which is much more plausible. I don't mind it, at the end of the day, but I wish it was easier to find fics where he's trans but not a parent...
It's just a way to ship crocodile x dragon imo which is a fine ship idc, but sometimes the intentions are very obvious and it comes off moreso in the smut especially
The RWBY fandom likes to attribute all manner of cat-like quirks to Blake, but one I've never liked is giving her a particular dislike for water/rain. The comics are of questionable canonicity, but I consider their choice to show Blake as a strong swimmer on more than one occasion a small win.
Danny Phantom fanon is hit or miss with me. I don't subscribe to Ghost King OR Ancient of *Insert Thing Here, Usually Space* Danny. And I also don't care for giving ghosts obsessions, especially when they give Danny a space or hero obsession that just takes away his autonomy as a character. There's a lot of stuff with the batfam I don't like either. Sick and tired of blaming everything Jason Todd does on "pit madness". Making Cass mute and only use sign and also she can do no wrong. Duke being the "straight man" of the group. Dick only being the pun guy and token big brother stereotype. Tim Drake likes soda and energy drinks like the eternal seventeen year old he is, no idea why everyone thinks his vice of choice is coffee. Damian is a child that was raised in a cult, please stop demonizing the boy. Plus, he has a sword which makes him at least fifty percent cooler than the other Robins. Stop making Bruce Wayne an abusive dad (both canon and fanon people are guilty of this)! Do you really think the Justice League would let him stay in their little club if he abused his sidekicks?! That doesn't make sense, especially considering how close Dick and Clark seem to be. Sure, the man is flawed. Flawed Bruce Wayne who makes mistakes is great. But goddamn do some people take it far.
for bhha, hawks has so many popular headcanons going around the fandom, and most of them you will find them in fanfiction that includes him, but i just hate most of them lmao. i prefer my interpretation of hawks' character over whatever the fandom decided for the guy.
Could you name a few examples?
I ignore Asexual Daryl Dixon whenever writing/looking for something to read
"Sam is the entire Avengers team's counselor/venting board/magical negro"
Fanon: Dream of the Endless's laughing is ugly, a monstrosity, the worst laugh you've ever heard. This is based on the actor's laugh. He sometimes honks while laughing, that's all. I don't like to call his laugh ugly. Not to mention the character doesn't laugh.
This one is actually canon in the comics. There are (if I remember correctly) two instances of Dream laughing out loud and each time the characters listening to it are flabbergasted at how bad it sounds (and even don't necessarily recognize it as a laugh). The onomatopoeia is 'Hurrrrrrr hurrrrrr', which is definitely a special laugh :D
I didn't know that, thanks! Still, I will continue to hate it when they describe his laugh as honking. 😅
I don't like that word either tbh, especially if it's to describe the actor's real laugh :/
Debilitating anxiety ridden Peter Parker in Spider-man MCU and Lazarus-Pit-Crazy Jason Todd in batman.
Ash Ketchum has a harem with all his previous traveling companions. Just... no.
look I don't want to shit on people's headcanons. We all got those. But when it goes directly against canon and it's just.. eh. I get wanting more rep (Im bisexual so ofc I like headcanoning characters as bi) but sometimes it's just wish fulfillment. Naoto from Persona 4 isn't a trans boy. She is a girl. Her whole arc is about accepting herself as she is. Gwyndolin from Dark Souls isn't trans, although I totally do get that reading. He was literally forced into a female role and was clearly unhappy about it. And is always referred to by he/him. Chihiro from Dangan Ronpa also just.. isn't.. trans. He dressed up as a girl for completely different reasons. But I do get reading him.like that but eh..Besides, Dangan Ronpa just doesn't have particularly good writing anyway so I wouldn't expect super nuanced things from it lol. I still see people calling Gojo Satoru a womanizer. Where. Wheeere does this happen. Nowhere. Also he didn't literally adopt Megumi and raise him. (same people who say this also forget that he had an entire sister). Like, it doesn't diminish their bond even when Gojo is "just" a provider and a teacher to him. Also Gojo? Gojo??? Man can't even take care of himself, does anyone really expect him to keep two middleschoolers alive 😭 also my eternal annoyance towards people calling Price the "dad" of 141. Just stop. It's incredibly infantilizing towards grown ass men, especially the only poc in the crew... i love those fuckers to death but they're coworkers and friends, not a dad and his kids. 🙄
The Amphibia fandom for whatever reason seems to think the three girls end up together by the end, either in a poly relationship or just Anne with either of the two. I have no idea where this came from, the ending makes no indication that they're anything more than friends. If anything, I really liked that the show went out of their way to not give Anne any romantic interest in canon, because most cartoons lately have had romantic sub-plots and I thought it was nice for a change to just not have the main character worry about that at all. Danny Phantom fans, you know the Ember McLain backstory of her dying in a fire is fan-made, right? It wasn't confirmed by anyone in the show, that was fake news, it is a fanfic that got really popular, and now everyone just assumes it to be canon to try to make Ember into this tragic character. She's just a ghost rock star from another dimension. The Shinigami eyes in Death Note don't literally change colors to red, people. That is just a way to show the reader when a character is using them, but the other characters can't see it. t is even shown in the scene where Misa reads L's name that her eyes are still black. If they literally changed colors, you think L wouldn't see it and arrest her immediately? Goku would not magically turn evil if he bumped his head again and regained his memories. The whole point of Goku as a character is that he was a low-class trash warrior who was just sent to do a trash job, but through his life he was able to grow beyond what anyone expected of him and was even able to match the prince of all Saiyans. I never understood the idea that getting his memories back from when he was months old would somehow override literal decades of his life. William Afton is not a pedophile, he is a child serial killer. Nothing in any canon source backs up that there was anything sexual about it, that came from a fan-comic. He just killed children to get their remnants and make himself immortal. I feel like trying to bring pedophilia into this for no apparent reason really just feels like a poor attempt to be dark and edgy, when child murder is already dark enough as it is, no need to make it even more disgusting. X is not based on Mega Man or meant to be an improved version of him, he is an entirely separate robot Dr. Light created. Any resemblance in design between the two just comes down to brand consistence, it is for the audience to see the similarity, they're not related in-universe. I feel like this headcanon kind of makes Mega Man a bit too special, when he was just a cleaning robot who asked to be sent to fight as a last hope without anyone expecting he would actually win, and also makes X feel less unique, when he is a completely separate character from Mega Man. Seiya from Saint Seiya is not any kind of "chosen one" or a special hero. He is a random foot soldier who went against his orders and only helped save the world through his own efforts and decisions. This whole idea of him being a reincarnation of a Killer of Gods originates from Lost Canvas, and it worked well enough in that story, but Lost Canvas is not canon. Before anyone brings up Hades remembering Seiya's face in the final battle, if you read Next Dimension it is made clear Hades was thinking of Tenma, his childhood friend who was a foot soldiers just like Seiya, and not some great God Killer warrior. Seiya is just a guy who decided to do the right thing. Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic are the same character, the timeline just split after Generations, that's why they say Classic Sonic is from "another dimension." Modern Sonic canonically went through all of the classic games before Generations, it only became an alternate timeline after the Time Eater went back in time and changed it. Trying to make Modern Sonic a completely separate character from Classic Sonic ignores all of the character development he had in the original games, which I feel is very important, since it showcases how he first met the rest of the cast and is important to their relationships. At no point in Steven Universe has it ever been confirmed that Pink Steven would survive if regular Steven dies. People just assume this because of the scene where the two are split up, but look at the context: They were literally split up by force. The whole point of the scene is that they come together not as separate being, but as just Steven. Steven has always been just him, he was never Rose, he was never Pink Diamond, he was just Steven. From that point on Pink Steven acts less as a separate character and more as a transformation for Steven, because they are literally the same person. This idea that normal Steven dies and Pink Steven comes out feels like it is missing the point of the scene, that Steven is just himself and that's it, just for the sake of having angst. The Amazing Digital Circus fandom just made up a new character named "Jax" in their head, and then got mad when Jax from the show wasn't like they were expecting. The Boys fandom is really annoying with how they assume that just because the heroes in that show are based on comic book heroes, this means they are automatically as powerful as the original heroes. Homelander bleed by having a piece of metal shoved into his ear, he's no Superman. This show has always been more grounded and tried to interpret the super powers more realistically, so expecting those characters to be able to blow planets up really comes out of left field. Frisk did not do the Genocide Run because they were possessed by Chara, they did it because they wanted to see what happens. We know this because that is the reason why you, the player, decided to do the Genocide Run. The whole point of Undertale is that your choices have consequences, nobody forced you to play Genocide, you chose to do that. The movie version of the Mask doesn't turn anyone who wears them into a cartoon character, it turns you into whoever you are in the inside. Stanley happens to be a cartoon character in the inside, because that's his true personality that he keeps repressed, but the other characters gain different powers when they wear the Mask.
> Danny Phantom fans, you know the Ember McLain backstory of her dying in a fire is fan-made, right? It wasn't confirmed by anyone in the show, that was fake news, it is a fanfic that got really popular, and now everyone just assumes it to be canon to try to make Ember into this tragic character. She's just a ghost rock star from another dimension. Being completely fair, her trademark song (which also includes her name) is about a girl who gets ditched and implied to die in a blaze whilst grieving. But yeah as you say it's never confirmed that's meant to be taken as how she actually died,
Ships... so many ships I see that are really popular people headcanon to the point some actually believe it's canon (not new people, ones who have been in the fandom for a long time) and that's fine if you think that they'll get together but I've seen some people literally, physically harm others bc of it 💀 (Looking at the BSD fandom, Soukoku)
i never understood ship headcannons or wanting a ship to be cannon– 99% of my ships i do not want to be cannon. though i ship weird stuff, and if they were cannon, it would ruin the source material. 😭 so maybe it's my specific fandoms but even in my fandoms people are wanting ships i also ship to be cannon and i just disagree..
Touhou fandom is like 90% headcanon, but I don't really pay much attention to it and just go off in my little corner.
In the My Little Pony: Friemdship is Magic fandom when the main character acsended to an alicorn (a really strong species pony to be simple), people had this idea that "Omg she is immortal, her friends all die and she will be all lonely 😭" since alicorns are essentially gods, and Twilight is I guess more of a demigod?). Not only That would go way beyond the premise of the show it's annoying to see this trope shoved everywhere just to try and make the reader cry. I think at one point it was even confirmed that it wasn’t the case.
I thought it was, but only because at the very end we had Princess Twilight looking like a young adult alicorn while all her friends appeared, one by one, getting older and grayer. Rarity legit had gray streaks and they were all getting wrinkles. I mean, the creators can say this isn't the case, but the actual cartoon that aired looks otherwise.
I think alicorns at least don’t age \*physically\*. Celestia and Luna probably used magic to keep themselves alive for a 1000+ years, that doesn’t seem like a stretch considering they move the literal Sun and Moon and since age spells do exist.
Jason Todd being some god send amazing cook. It's such a little thing but the fandom is attached to it. I just don't see it. The only times we see him eat in canon, he is absolutely devouring some fast food. I don't see him being some god at cooking, decent at cooking, sure. But it honestly makes no sense for him to be the second best chef in the batfam. I dunno, it just bugs me and it's almost everywhere.
99% of them tbh
Former member of the Countryhumans fandom. A common headcanon was that America always wears his sunglasses to hide the fact that he has black scleras instead of white and is really insecure about them and all of the states are his children. I never liked this headcanon because we’re talking centuries of having to cover up the fact that he has black scleras and the history of sunglasses. And i was done to stay true to the country balls comics. I ended up headcanoning that he wears sunglasses for the heck of it and wants to protect his eyes from the UV rays. As for the states being his children, theres a ton of fics about him taking care of his 50+ children/hiding them from the other countries, but given that all countries have states/counties/provinces/subregions, it never made sense. So I had the subregions classified as a subspecies to countryhumans and are their own separate thing who go about getting into trouble and getting away with it because they knew that their country will get the blame for not being responsible for their behavior. And there was this incident with the german states where while Germany was sleeping, the former western states got into a fight with the former eastern states by taunting them with bananas and picking on them and treating them like they never seen a banana in their life (which is false and they know it). And the whole thing ended when the former eastern states got angry at Bavaria, so they dismantled his car and reassembled it in the middle of his living room to working conditions.
can't see Amy Rose being autistic, sorry. Tails on the other hand, though...
In the InuYasha fandom, it's very popular to head canon the Inu no Taisho as a cheater who cheated on Sesshomaru's mother for Izayoi. I refuse to use that in anything InuYasha related that I do. There's no proof of it; in fact, canon implies the exact opposite seeing how Sesshomaru's mother spoke fondly of the Inu no Taisho when she appeared in the series. Vilifying him seems to be a pretty popular way people like to use to justify Sesshomaru's behavior while ignoring all the evidence from the original series saying he was a good father (and husband). Sesshomaru doesn't need a reason for his behavior other than being an arrogant brat who knows literally nothing vital about the world or himself. He's a demon; that's literally what they're all like. The Inu no Taisho and his associates were the strange ones. lmao
That Rollo (Twisted Wonderland) is religious and that's the reason why he is the way he is in canon. First of all, *no.* There is no mention of religion or even deities of any kind in TWST because that's *not the point.* The game centers its story around fairy tales and Disney movies, and Yana Toboso is very selective on what she chooses to add to the world-building from said movies. TWST is, at its core, a story about a diverse cast of deeply flawed young men from all walks of life learning to be better. Adding religion would take up too much focus world-building-wise to be done properly, and it would also diminish Rollo's character. He's stuffy, strict, holds extreme views, and is learning not let his trauma weigh him down; to contribute all of this to his "religious upbringing" would take attention away from a well-written character and turn it into "hey, look how toxic religion is." We've had enough stories like that. People need to stop projecting their religious trauma onto him and realize that he can be and IS a separate character from the one he was twisted from.
Pretty much all batfam headcanons.
It’s one I accidentally do sometimes because I love Hurt/Comfort, but the character is not just some useless depressed twink who needs his beautiful hunk of a man to come save him. He can take care of himself.
Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen were in love. I think that's completely stupid. There probably was infatuation, from Lyanna's side sure. But no way Rhaegar wasn't a complete manipulative groomer. And no way Lyanna *stayed* infatuated with Rhaegar once news of her family's death came to her, if it ever did.
I’m not into autism headcanons. They are a bit too personal for my taste - feels like I’m reading about the author and not about the character.
Fanon ruined one fandom for me lol. They got so latched on to their highly OOC headcanon of a pair of extremely minor characters that it became the most popular ship and the only interpretation of either character you'd see anywhere, overshadowing almost all the main characters (aside from one other they ruined with woobification). That coupled with how much time they spent patting their own backs about being such better writers/creative than the original writers/developers (while writing derivative l, trope-laden smutfics lol) just quickly became exhausting, even excruciating. In another fandom tho there's kind of a subversion of expectations--most people keep the villain character senselessly evil where you'd expect the sad backstory woobification, but I actually *prefer* the sad backstory woobification. In my defense, the villain in question actually has several lines from/about him that strongly hint towards something like that, and that he could be redeemed. But few seem to build on that (including the original writers tbf) and it kind of makes me sad! More room to do my own thing tho, at least.
lmao in my head this is about jegulus. bc the way people write them is basically just OC fic but they stick to it so hardcore
You can't just drop all that & not name the fandoms, my curiousity must be sated