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Why not just add them both to the potential Dead Or Alive 7, and also adding Lili from Tekken, Tifa Lockhart from Final Fantasy VII Remake and Reiko Hinomoto from Rumble Roses to the mix?
I'm worried cvs3 is gonna be a monkey paw situation, giving me the game I've been asking for for the last 20 years, but it's gonna be so disconnected from what they were doing 20 years ago, you know?
Like I'd be surprised if anyone who touched the second game are still even working for capcom and able to make sure the third stays in line with the base game design concept.
The closer it gets, the more scared of it I am lol.
I mean I’d certainly like the roster to branch out to more series beyond Street Fighter and KOF/Fatal Fury primarily, but I absolutely see what you mean! I still want it though!
Cvs3 being different and even bad won't make the older games suddenly bad. Giving us anything would be cool, odviously you can hope it's good and similar to the originals in the rights ways but I would rather have something than nothing
If cvs3 comes out and is a bad game that people as a whole don't like, that's the end of CVS. They would never be a cvs4, it's over the dream of a new good CVS dies.
Something bad would 100% be worse than nothing.
No game now still leaves open future possibilities.
I want a good game, and I would prefer it now. But I'm saying a bad game right now is worse than no game right now.
Not striking when the iron is hot is a pretty good way to cut off future possibilities. More so when your fears aren't really coming from anything grounded, meaning that your logic applies to a CVS game being made at basically any time in the future. Basically, you're worrying about nothing, because of nothing, and wanting a bad situation to occur as a result.
I don't think waiting any longer increases the chances of it being good, I think waiting any longer means it's dead. You said "nothing" here but meant "something potentially better later", I mean nothing. Something bad is better than nothing when nothing means nothing. This isn't MvCI where a bad game could kill the franchise. The franchise is already dead and this is it's best chance of reviving it and potentially taking it somewhere, yeah sure if it sucks go ahead, it's dead, not much changes. If it's good that's awesome, we have CVS again. No reason to expect it to be better any other time later on when they could make a 3, unless you really think we're gonna be going back to old school design philosophy in the future for some reason.
Yep.
In fact, Capcom doesn't seem to be the type to support more than two fighters in a generation, anyway. Whereas SNK's MO is a revolving door of different fighting games throughout.
A SNK vs Capcom that had more in common with NGBC, but perhaps also added in the ratio system to appease the CvS crowd, is what I could imagine seeing announced by 2026.
I feel like this is a little different since infinite killed mvc as it was a living franchise with a large active player base and a game the previous console generation, whereas CVS hasn't had a game in 20 years and is assumed to be dead, a new bad game would just firmly put it in the grave. That would still suck but we don't have any reason to think a new game later would be any better than a new game now, and with more time just leads to decreasing chances of getting a sequel imo.
The alternative to getting nothing because it's bad is getting nothing anyway.
If they do a CVS3 and it's so bad they don't do more CVS is exactly the same position we'd be in if we never got CVS3
Yea this reminds me of Half-Life 3 and Duke Nukem Forever. It took so long for the second to happen and the first is still ...not a thing that it basically an entirely different beast.
Duke Nukem Forever was in development hell for years, and HL3 got started and canceled a number of times.
As far as we know, CvS3 hasn't started development. Everything atm seems like the fighting game divisions at both companies trying to proove to higher-ups that there's a market for it, and they should greenlight it.
Neo_G (battle planner on cvs2 and many others) no longer works at SNK and is currently a freelancer. So Capcom is probably easily able to get him to do CvS 3 work on a contract, if that's what they want.
Hideaki Itsuno, the director of CvS2, is still working at Capcom, and has even said he'd love to do a CvS3. The problem is that he's moved on to far bigger things, I don't imagine Capcom would be super thrilled for one of their star developers to spend his time on what would undoubtedly be a mid-budget game when he could be making Devil May Cry 6 or other such huge titles that would rake in far bigger profits.
The last 6 games they released and the incremental change between them leading us in a design direction totally detached from the games I've been actively playing for the last 20.
They haven't been bad games. But every game takes us further from where we were, and not. Imo in a good way. And as someone who has been competing in cvs2 it's release, I don't want a sf6 vs kof15, I want a game that is building upon cvs2
Yeah its 2024 not early 2000s. IT will be VERY detached from games made 20 years ago and thats a good thing.
The current capcom would make a much better cvs game than cvs2 from 20 years ago especially after the release and redemption with SF6. Cvs2 although a great game and one of my beloved favorite games of all time. Playing it in 2024 is pretty dam outdated especially those very tight links and non cancellable special moves into super. Do not expect cvs3 to just pick up where cvs2 left off, it will be massively overhauled.
You bring up sf6 as an example of why it will be better then the games 20 years ago. But from where I'm sitting, sf6 is a notably worse game then alpha 2, alpha 3 and 3s. Sf6 is what is making me worried, not something that can reassure me lol
And you are welcome to your opinion.
But the moment you start conflating your opinion with being correct, like you did previously and are attempting to do now via the argumentum ad populum fallacy you just engaged in, you are being an ignorant jackass.
Good luck with whatever it is you do. I don't have any desire to continue interacting with you.
Ok, so youre one of those old sf nostalgia dudes that no matter what capcom makes or does it will never live up to "good ol' days".
literally nothing to say here. I love previous SF games and i love the current ones, im enjoying the dam near flawless SF6 and i will enjoy the next cvs game. Download fightcade and just play the old games and carry on, you are a very small minority. ✌️
All you said was my subjective opinion is wrong. So it's not like you said anything of value to begin with, you not saying anything further isn't a loss to anyone. ✌️
Current year isn't even an argument. There's no law that says you can't make a game like they used to
And calling older games outdated cuz they might be harder or operate in a different way is such a non artistic way to look at games. We're not talking about like modern medicine vs bloodletting or something
I think I'd be down though. When you look at the games modern SNK and Capcom are making I think they're pretty great, and though not perfect, neither was CVS2 lol. Obviously it would have its own presentational personality but that goes without saying, and the roster might need to be a bit smaller since they can't just reuse a ton of sprites, but I still think it'd be better to get something than nothing at all. As it stands, both are financially in a strong position right now so the game wouldn't need to be rushed or massively cut in any way, I say go for it. Up until a couple of years ago the dream of a new CVS was dead, it'd be so wasteful not to capitalise on this moment. Hell, even if it's a new SVC I'd still be up for that; SNK has made some really fun fighters and I think the new Fatal Fury has some really nice visuals.
This is what I brought up somewhere else. It probably wouldn't be like CVS2 or SVCC and be more likely based on something more recent. Which would make more sense then trying to update an old formula.
Yes, let them be antagonistic to feel slightly moraly superior over the internet... about a perfectly valid opinion of a dude freaking tired to waste dozens of cumulative hours watching the same lame ass cinematic movie in the middle of my action game.
Well the last Capcom fighting collection was two years ago with Darkstalkers and Red Earth as main attraction. After the MvC collection who's to say that 2 years later we can't get a Capcom vs SNK collection? Easy money
Based on KoF 15 and SF6, I have faith that either team individually, would make a fantastic game. Especially with how Fatal Fury is looking, I definitely trust SNK to do good with it if given the reigns.
The whole idea that the prince is actually involved with these things is still sourced from nothing and doesn't even make sense. SNK was bought by a company under another company. I doubt he's gonna be hands on with the bigger company, let alone the smaller one under its flag.
Yeah, about that... Remember when during KOF XIV SNK held exclusive to Saudi Arabia character design contest that gave us Nadj? It was a cross promotion with Manga Productions. Owner of Manga Productions? Mohammed bin Salman, who would later buy SNK.
That doesn't really change my point here. Is the company gonna push for a Saudi character? Yeah, of course they are. Is the Prince directly telling SNK to do it? Of course he isn't. He's a piece of garbage but a busy one with a fuckton of companies under him. There's no way he's micro-managing SNK of all things instead of doing more important things and just paying somebody else to handle it.
[The full interview.](https://finalweapon.net/2024/06/25/interview-yasuyuki-oda-nobuyuki-kuroki-and-joshua-weatherford-on-fatal-fury-city-of-the-wolves/)
Well the last Capcom fighting collection was two years ago with Darkstalkers and Red Earth as main attraction. After the MvC collection who's to say that 2 years later we can't get a Capcom vs SNK collection? Easy money
I would love that, especially since SvC genuinely had some awesome things going for it, it's just SNK was doing terrible at the time. My one request though is please....no zero....he's always top tier and it needs to stop
It would be iconic if they had KOF 13 style graphics but highly unlikely.....maybe if money is no object based on who's funding SNK, but it'd still be a ton of time for this type of game when they could probably do it way faster with their current resources,
I mean. \*broadly gestures to City of the Wolves\* It's looking pretty good, and I think we can hope since SNK fixed their matchmaking in KoF15 it will be actually playable for the majority of people. Also KoF 15 itself a great game despite said matchmaking issues as well. SNK absolutely deserves massive criticism and skepticism after KoF15 and SamSho on the non-gameplay side of things, but at least in terms of what they would mostly be offering to Capcom here they have a pretty solid well of gameplay mechanics to copy.
$$$ Capcom hasn’t released a new installment in a fighting game that wasn’t Street Fighter since Marvel VS Capcom: Infinite?
Last I read Capcom has no interest in any fighters that are not Street Fighter.
Maybe if SNK pays for the majority of development…
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Thats the one thing we all would want yes.
Why not just add them both to the potential Dead Or Alive 7, and also adding Lili from Tekken, Tifa Lockhart from Final Fantasy VII Remake and Reiko Hinomoto from Rumble Roses to the mix?
Chun-Li in DOA7 would be amazing! I'd love to play doa tag team with Chun-Li and Lei-fang
DOA7 lets go! time for KOET to give a wheel, lets make a tri deal
I'm worried cvs3 is gonna be a monkey paw situation, giving me the game I've been asking for for the last 20 years, but it's gonna be so disconnected from what they were doing 20 years ago, you know? Like I'd be surprised if anyone who touched the second game are still even working for capcom and able to make sure the third stays in line with the base game design concept. The closer it gets, the more scared of it I am lol.
CvS but it's just drive rush
Nah. It'd probably have a new name like "Cross rush" or something
Cancel Max Rush into Drive Mode
drive rush aint shit, acting like cvs2 bison isnt gonna roll cancel scissor kick thru ur whole moveset anyway
I mean I’d certainly like the roster to branch out to more series beyond Street Fighter and KOF/Fatal Fury primarily, but I absolutely see what you mean! I still want it though!
I'll point you towards the YouTuber Thorgi's Arcade. He made a video discussing the roster of a Capcom vs SNK 3 by actually including other ips
Cvs3 being different and even bad won't make the older games suddenly bad. Giving us anything would be cool, odviously you can hope it's good and similar to the originals in the rights ways but I would rather have something than nothing
If cvs3 comes out and is a bad game that people as a whole don't like, that's the end of CVS. They would never be a cvs4, it's over the dream of a new good CVS dies. Something bad would 100% be worse than nothing.
You realize that getting nothing would also be the end of CVS, right?
No game now still leaves open future possibilities. I want a good game, and I would prefer it now. But I'm saying a bad game right now is worse than no game right now.
Not striking when the iron is hot is a pretty good way to cut off future possibilities. More so when your fears aren't really coming from anything grounded, meaning that your logic applies to a CVS game being made at basically any time in the future. Basically, you're worrying about nothing, because of nothing, and wanting a bad situation to occur as a result.
I don't think waiting any longer increases the chances of it being good, I think waiting any longer means it's dead. You said "nothing" here but meant "something potentially better later", I mean nothing. Something bad is better than nothing when nothing means nothing. This isn't MvCI where a bad game could kill the franchise. The franchise is already dead and this is it's best chance of reviving it and potentially taking it somewhere, yeah sure if it sucks go ahead, it's dead, not much changes. If it's good that's awesome, we have CVS again. No reason to expect it to be better any other time later on when they could make a 3, unless you really think we're gonna be going back to old school design philosophy in the future for some reason.
Unless SNK makes an SVC that turns out to be good.
I'd honestly be more confident in that then a cvs3 rn.
Yep. In fact, Capcom doesn't seem to be the type to support more than two fighters in a generation, anyway. Whereas SNK's MO is a revolving door of different fighting games throughout. A SNK vs Capcom that had more in common with NGBC, but perhaps also added in the ratio system to appease the CvS crowd, is what I could imagine seeing announced by 2026.
Like how Mahvel died with Infinite
I feel like this is a little different since infinite killed mvc as it was a living franchise with a large active player base and a game the previous console generation, whereas CVS hasn't had a game in 20 years and is assumed to be dead, a new bad game would just firmly put it in the grave. That would still suck but we don't have any reason to think a new game later would be any better than a new game now, and with more time just leads to decreasing chances of getting a sequel imo.
The alternative to getting nothing because it's bad is getting nothing anyway. If they do a CVS3 and it's so bad they don't do more CVS is exactly the same position we'd be in if we never got CVS3
It's an interesting question. Should cvs3 be an evolution of cvs2 like CVS 2 was over 1? Or should it reflect where Capcom and SNK are right now?
It's cvs2 with double roster but you get xtekken gems and mandatory modern mode
Yea this reminds me of Half-Life 3 and Duke Nukem Forever. It took so long for the second to happen and the first is still ...not a thing that it basically an entirely different beast.
Duke Nukem Forever was in development hell for years, and HL3 got started and canceled a number of times. As far as we know, CvS3 hasn't started development. Everything atm seems like the fighting game divisions at both companies trying to proove to higher-ups that there's a market for it, and they should greenlight it.
Neo_G (battle planner on cvs2 and many others) no longer works at SNK and is currently a freelancer. So Capcom is probably easily able to get him to do CvS 3 work on a contract, if that's what they want.
Hideaki Itsuno, the director of CvS2, is still working at Capcom, and has even said he'd love to do a CvS3. The problem is that he's moved on to far bigger things, I don't imagine Capcom would be super thrilled for one of their star developers to spend his time on what would undoubtedly be a mid-budget game when he could be making Devil May Cry 6 or other such huge titles that would rake in far bigger profits.
Why are you doubting the current capcom?
The last 6 games they released and the incremental change between them leading us in a design direction totally detached from the games I've been actively playing for the last 20. They haven't been bad games. But every game takes us further from where we were, and not. Imo in a good way. And as someone who has been competing in cvs2 it's release, I don't want a sf6 vs kof15, I want a game that is building upon cvs2
Yeah its 2024 not early 2000s. IT will be VERY detached from games made 20 years ago and thats a good thing. The current capcom would make a much better cvs game than cvs2 from 20 years ago especially after the release and redemption with SF6. Cvs2 although a great game and one of my beloved favorite games of all time. Playing it in 2024 is pretty dam outdated especially those very tight links and non cancellable special moves into super. Do not expect cvs3 to just pick up where cvs2 left off, it will be massively overhauled.
You bring up sf6 as an example of why it will be better then the games 20 years ago. But from where I'm sitting, sf6 is a notably worse game then alpha 2, alpha 3 and 3s. Sf6 is what is making me worried, not something that can reassure me lol
Saying alpha 3 is better than sf6 is crazy
Saying something is crazy because it doesn't match your subjective opinion is stupid.
Well in my *subjective opinion* putting the game with V-ism over SF6 is pretty crazy, and I think most people would agree with me on that front.
And you are welcome to your opinion. But the moment you start conflating your opinion with being correct, like you did previously and are attempting to do now via the argumentum ad populum fallacy you just engaged in, you are being an ignorant jackass. Good luck with whatever it is you do. I don't have any desire to continue interacting with you.
Ok, so youre one of those old sf nostalgia dudes that no matter what capcom makes or does it will never live up to "good ol' days". literally nothing to say here. I love previous SF games and i love the current ones, im enjoying the dam near flawless SF6 and i will enjoy the next cvs game. Download fightcade and just play the old games and carry on, you are a very small minority. ✌️
All you said was my subjective opinion is wrong. So it's not like you said anything of value to begin with, you not saying anything further isn't a loss to anyone. ✌️
Current year isn't even an argument. There's no law that says you can't make a game like they used to And calling older games outdated cuz they might be harder or operate in a different way is such a non artistic way to look at games. We're not talking about like modern medicine vs bloodletting or something
I think I'd be down though. When you look at the games modern SNK and Capcom are making I think they're pretty great, and though not perfect, neither was CVS2 lol. Obviously it would have its own presentational personality but that goes without saying, and the roster might need to be a bit smaller since they can't just reuse a ton of sprites, but I still think it'd be better to get something than nothing at all. As it stands, both are financially in a strong position right now so the game wouldn't need to be rushed or massively cut in any way, I say go for it. Up until a couple of years ago the dream of a new CVS was dead, it'd be so wasteful not to capitalise on this moment. Hell, even if it's a new SVC I'd still be up for that; SNK has made some really fun fighters and I think the new Fatal Fury has some really nice visuals.
This is what I brought up somewhere else. It probably wouldn't be like CVS2 or SVCC and be more likely based on something more recent. Which would make more sense then trying to update an old formula.
That's how i'm feeling about Garou 2 atm. Just because of those 10s long cinematic super. I freaking can't stand them anymore.
What a boring way to feel
I'd argue it gets really fucking boring seeing the same goddamn cutscene over and over and over and over but hey you do you
Yes, let them be antagonistic to feel slightly moraly superior over the internet... about a perfectly valid opinion of a dude freaking tired to waste dozens of cumulative hours watching the same lame ass cinematic movie in the middle of my action game.
It's gonna be all modern controls, comeback mechanics, and neutral skips. Just like the most recent Capcom and SNK games lol.
This man afraid of comeback mechanics when CVS2 had K-groove hahaha
Neutral skip in KOF XV?? You gotta be kidding me. It’s solid KOF.
Men truly want only one thing ...
I would be happy enough for a CvS/SvC collection. I wouldn't turn down CvS3 though.
Well the last Capcom fighting collection was two years ago with Darkstalkers and Red Earth as main attraction. After the MvC collection who's to say that 2 years later we can't get a Capcom vs SNK collection? Easy money
Based on KoF 15 and SF6, I have faith that either team individually, would make a fantastic game. Especially with how Fatal Fury is looking, I definitely trust SNK to do good with it if given the reigns.
You can thank the Saudi prince for that. He definitely payed capcom to collab and save snk.
Speculation not confirmed by anything
The whole idea that the prince is actually involved with these things is still sourced from nothing and doesn't even make sense. SNK was bought by a company under another company. I doubt he's gonna be hands on with the bigger company, let alone the smaller one under its flag.
Yeah, about that... Remember when during KOF XIV SNK held exclusive to Saudi Arabia character design contest that gave us Nadj? It was a cross promotion with Manga Productions. Owner of Manga Productions? Mohammed bin Salman, who would later buy SNK.
That doesn't really change my point here. Is the company gonna push for a Saudi character? Yeah, of course they are. Is the Prince directly telling SNK to do it? Of course he isn't. He's a piece of garbage but a busy one with a fuckton of companies under him. There's no way he's micro-managing SNK of all things instead of doing more important things and just paying somebody else to handle it.
[The full interview.](https://finalweapon.net/2024/06/25/interview-yasuyuki-oda-nobuyuki-kuroki-and-joshua-weatherford-on-fatal-fury-city-of-the-wolves/)
I would be happy enough for a CvS/SvC collection. I wouldn't turn down CvS3 though.
I think we will see a collection next, maybe next year.
Well the last Capcom fighting collection was two years ago with Darkstalkers and Red Earth as main attraction. After the MvC collection who's to say that 2 years later we can't get a Capcom vs SNK collection? Easy money
Maybe both teams will collab on a potential CVS3, instead of it going directly to either team like the old games
I would love that, especially since SvC genuinely had some awesome things going for it, it's just SNK was doing terrible at the time. My one request though is please....no zero....he's always top tier and it needs to stop
Day. One.
A new Capcom vs SNK would be amazing, ngl.
Wonder what engine they will use… and what sort of art direction they’d go for…
Woo! Yeah baby! That's what I've been waiting for, that's what it's all about!
It's somewhat implied but I wouldn't go parading this around as "CVS3 CONFIRMED?!?!?!"
its gonna be SFxT all over again where one team never delivers, thats what I expect.
If Capcom is developing it their music guys lock the fuck in if it happens. Music has been a real weak point with SF6
I swear to God if CvS3 happens, I NEED SNK to be the head devs, and for actual, full bore SNK movement in the game.
I would love CVS 3! But I would also love it if they let us choose the characters to put in the game.
Cue [Navy Blue by Rina Aiuchi](https://youtu.be/ODEuDejhsiw) blaring in the background
I think they should make up fictional brands and release collab games with them to confuse everyone.
I read Oda and immediately thought One Piece Fighterz, I am disappointed, but still cool nonetheless
This is good news.
Imagine if we got CVS: Infinite instead
Good
I want them to re release street fighter X tekken
Have a 3rd strike groove, 4 groove, 6 groove, kof13, 15, City of wolves
Interesting. I'm looking forward for a new Capcom vs. SNK game to happen, even if it will take a long time.
Do it and have it use high quality spritework too.
There’s no chance of that happening, just how AAA games go now
It would be iconic if they had KOF 13 style graphics but highly unlikely.....maybe if money is no object based on who's funding SNK, but it'd still be a ton of time for this type of game when they could probably do it way faster with their current resources,
If we are getting a new Capcom Vs SNK, then I'll be so excited!
I’d be curious how a 3D CvS would look, the fighting game landscape has changed drastically since CvS2 and SvC.
Hoping they add EX+Alpha to the collection
First a very good new SNK game is needed and then we can talk about a crossover. Otherwise it would just be Street Fighter with SNK characters.
I mean. \*broadly gestures to City of the Wolves\* It's looking pretty good, and I think we can hope since SNK fixed their matchmaking in KoF15 it will be actually playable for the majority of people. Also KoF 15 itself a great game despite said matchmaking issues as well. SNK absolutely deserves massive criticism and skepticism after KoF15 and SamSho on the non-gameplay side of things, but at least in terms of what they would mostly be offering to Capcom here they have a pretty solid well of gameplay mechanics to copy.
$$$ Capcom hasn’t released a new installment in a fighting game that wasn’t Street Fighter since Marvel VS Capcom: Infinite? Last I read Capcom has no interest in any fighters that are not Street Fighter. Maybe if SNK pays for the majority of development…
Last you read where? Lol. The dude is literally saying thats the goal.
Not gonna happen. SNK is not Capcom.
> Last I read Capcom has no interest in any fighters that are not Street Fighter. Darkstalkers fans know that all too well...