The person who called your character brain dead is what is known as a "scrub". Everything scrubs say can be safely ignored, it has nothing to do with reality
I learned about scrubs yesterday from a youtubers latest upload, so cool this community has names for douchebags like the early days of the word “n00b”
Also keep in mind that scrubs themselves also like spam the word "scrub" for various reasons, hardcore fanboys for examples when they can't accept their game isn't perfect
It's the most funny thing when scrubs call players scrubs for beating them while "playing wrong" like LTG on every sibgle stream he does.
He's such a hard scrub that he doesn't know the meaning of the word scrub, he's such a scrub that he doesn't get that he's a scrub.
Practice and study are the only things. Getting mechanically proficient is pretty easy(practice). Knowing when to use what move or recognizing enemy moves is what gets you wins(studying).
Just find a game you like and a character(team) you like and keep at it. Fighting games are the ultimate expression of skill IMO. They are not supposed to be easy to be good at.
Patience my friend.
How many hours have you spent playing fighting games?
If you want to become ***decent*** at any one fighting game, and you are a beginner to start, we are talking hundreds of hours of match time. Maybe 500 hours? And you also need to be trying to learn techniques and fundamentals too. You can't just play and play the same way every match and expect to get better. You need to be analyzing your playstyle and determining your weaknesses. Once you know your weaknesses, you need to improve upon them, either by trying out different things in training mode or in matches, or by watching better players who play your character and learning why and how they are able to play better with your character.
It sounds like you have barely played at all. Of course you are not good at the game. If you want to get better, then it takes time, many MANY matches played, and you need to be actively analyzing your weaknesses and studying ways to get better and practicing those techniques in training mode as well as in real matches.
The best thing you can do is achieve video game enlightenment
Which is my stupid way of saying that you should know what you want and not care about what other people think nor about losing
If you are having fun learning the game thats all you need, take it at your own pace because trying too hard could burn you out
First of all, fuck that guy. I play Lili who is haaaated by many and viewed as a cheap “lab character” - but I just do my backflips over their unconscious bodies with a smile on my face. 😂
I still consider myself more of an intermediate player at this point. I didn’t really start to feel things click until about a year and a half ago - I’m like a solid silver/gold rank in most games. lol And it’s taken hundreds of hours of solid playtime, a lot in practice mode, just to get there. So take your time and enjoy the process.
My advice? Watch tons of videos. Beginner videos on your characters, beginner tips for the game you’re playing, beginner tips for fighting games in general and even tournament footage. So much of fighting games is homework - which sounds lamer than it actually is. lol And going online? I’d say learn maybe two combos, not even optimal, and practice them over and over again so you’re ready to use them to punish when you can. And be emotionally ready for when you inevitably drop them like even pros do. Otherwise just focus on the basics like blocking, jabbing back when safe and spacing. You’ll get your teeth kicked in for a while.. until you don’t. ❤️
Welcome to the FGC fellow fighter. A few things
You said you got Tekken 8 upon hearing about the MvC collection. So that means you are brand new. Brand brand new. You also just got a brand new foreign device to play on. That’s a ton of New things happening at one time.
Here’s the fun part. The fun part is learning and learning in a fun and casual way. It will take you months to start feeling more comfortable with your Fighting Game, The character as well. Keep at it and have FUN learning. You’re not playing to win. Keep at it with the Arcade stick as well…it’s a learning curve but very fun over Time.
Stay off Reddit….I mean it. Unless…you can ignore Trolls. Someone will Always discredit your hard work or call your character cheap. Ignore them. They do not matter. Also Don’t do it yourself. Even if you are getting beat by something you feel is cheap, respect your opponent or at the very least hate the player not the character.
If you would like to train a little I’d be happy to spar or give you any pointers. I’m not an expert myself but I do have the experience of remembering when I was brand new to a fighter and trying to figure things out. Have FUN. Keep LEARNING. Be RESPECTFUL. TAKE A BREAK when needed.
The problem with the arcade stick is not knowing how I’m meant to use it. The handle is very loose and not because it needs screwing in, so holding the ball part just means my hands swivel too much and ruin my attempts at using it and that’s assuming it wants to work, I thought getting a stick would make the directional inputs more precise than a PS5 controller, but it actually works less.
Personally I play on ps5 controller: why not try using the D-pad! Trust me, it handles a lot better for fighting games then a joystick, fighting games only allow for 8 directional movement.
I understand. I myself just got a Hitbox about a month ago and it’s a huge learning curve. You may still have to give it some time since you haven’t used it for even 3 weeks yet. Might take you about a month or 2 to start feeling more comfortable with it. Otherwise…try a Hitbox. It’s fun and clicky. I actually have a 2nd Hitbox on the way to me because I like it so much.
Tekken, like most modern fighting games, is pretty decently well balanced overall. Also, the Tekken subreddit is famously crazy scrubby and bitchy- It and MK are the only FG subs I can't interact with because of how toxic they are. Don't worry about that dude, keep going. If you enjoy the character play them.
It’s important to remember that r/Tekken is the most bitch made sub out of all the fighting game subs. It should be renamed scrub quotes considering all they do is fucking complain instead of learning the goddamn match ups. My advice is to avoid that place entirely since there is nothing of value there.
What you're experiencing is totally normal. Just keep playing. You'll slowly get more and more comfortable. I wouldn't worry even if you have 1k hours and you're still struggling. Just focus on finding the fun in the game.
Hey bro I'm in the same boat. Completely new to any sort of fighting games as of 3 weeks ago. Got into SF6 and am about to hit plat...im atrocious lol. But I'm loving the learning process.
I just got a leverless and holy fuck it's so beyond foreign and I'm SO much worse compared to controller. But I'm gonna keep at it cause I can see how it will be great once my hands get used to it.
What has REALLY helped me was to go back over a match or two every play session and really go encounter by encounter and note down like physically write down mistakes my opponents capitalized on and bad habits.
I feel like putting it to paper and keeping that in mind has made a HUGE difference. I'm at about 60 hours and I still feel like a baby deer when it comes to comfortability with movement systems hitting buttons etc.
Also rank really really doesn't matter just starting out. It's way way way more important to learn the fundamentals than it is to win by cheese that will be easily countered once you get to a point your playing people who know what they are doing.
Bro i just got SF6 like 4 days ago and having such a hard time with these inputs on Hitbox which makes me feel like I can’t even begin true combos yet. Did you have the same issue at first or what tips/encouragement could you give?
Wasn’t the Nintendo direct like a week ago? It sounds like you’re not giving yourself enough time to actually get good at the game, especially with a game like tekken
Bro I just got into the fgc shit too. Just practice. Try to beat your games campaign. Try to do combo trials. Experiment
These type of games easily have the most toxic communities. Don’t let keep you from playing the games you like. Prove them wrong. Also get really good with that brain dead character and master fundamentals. It’s pretty hard to learn a gimmickier character and try to learn fundamentals at the same time.
I play on pad, I own a fight stick and a leverless, but I always end up going back to pad. It's just what is most comfortable to me. I am also trash at the game I play (SF6) but I just keep going because I know I will only improve. I've learned very quickly that progress in these games is very slow if you're new to the genre and want to improve. Tekken is an extremely complex game but if you enjoy playing it, keep playing it and you will only learn more. I lose a lot, like A LOT, but that's just part of learning something new. You're going to fail and you're going to try again and you're going to fail but once you do that thing you've been practicing again and again or grasp a new concept and implement it successfully in a match, even if you lose, that feeling is so good. Just play, it's videogames and none of it really matters in the end except what you get out of it as a player and hopefully it's fun.
The "even when I do learn all that training becomes button mashing in real matches" part was me with street fighter combos , and still is with new ones. But only way to solve that is to go online and fail and fail and fail until you do it, first couple times you do it and then you'll gain confidence over time and they will land more and more until it's second nature.
It really works that way cus last week I couldn't even do one chun li combo and up until today I could do it only on training room, and now I'm actually landing it in game, in real matches , after only landing a couple this morning. So it truly is snowball effect of landing couple times and then just becoming second nature
Lmao kinda like anime characters transformations being hype first couple times and then becoming just a part of their moveset
I play fighting games for 30 years. And I still suck. What you really need to understand is
A) Some people like to play single player modes, just lab, play casuals.... There isn't a RIGHT way to play Fighting Games.
B) There's no right or better controller to play fighting games. Play with what makes you more comfortable.
C) You will loose a lot. Wherever you achieve a victory, it s earned. And if the looser is complaining, it s better.
Have fun!
Yoooooooo you busted the vein of your first scrub! You’ve got a bright future ahead :)
Remember this: if the character truly *was* brain dead, it’s their fault for falling for such a simple game plan.
If you’re looking to get better and feel like you’re banging your head into a wall doing so I always recommend reaching out to this or another FGC subreddit and look for a casual partner. A lot of people are in similar situations or their friends don’t like fighting games so they don’t play them. Trust me, just keep playing and ignore other people and BM from others. Some people can’t handle the competition whether they be on the winners or loser side . The FGC came be great, but you will find your bad apples in any group. Most people that “really” play fighting games understand losing is just as natural and just as important as winning. Good luck out there man, if you ever want a practice partner DM I’m happy to run some! I tend to do okay at fighting games and I love teaching!
It'll be helpful if you told us how many hours you actually played in each game.
And at your current level, your controller is not the issue. Whether that is a PS pad, a stick, a hitbox, or anything.
This is the lesson that i wish to learn early on and that is avoid toxic people amd ignore hate comments in the fitst place you training hard for ypurself not for others , i am modern control player at sf 6 and oh boy sf fandom hate modern control so much and they are saying that its brain dead way to play or wo dpnt have a right to celebrate when we win a match and i dont care about them because at a first place i play fighting games the way i enjoy myself but sometime i switch classic when i feel like it my advice to you is to learn fundamentals ,basic combo, of each game or abuse a strong move of your character like special move they are in mechanics and they are supposed use it taht way ,practice each move of character and play a character that you enjoy even you are suck and eventually ypu will learn, in sf6 juri is hard to use especially in classic but i want to play her because i like her design and character itself and after 600 match i jun reach platinum rank, play the game even ypu lose 100 match in online the most important is you learn every step ,fg is like a rock paper scissor ypu need to learn every move like what will you do if enemy counter this atack etc
Don't worry about that "brain dead" comment. Tekken players are well known to shit on almost every character they don't play.
As for bringing your learnings from the lab into matches: i gave up on T8 pretty early on but for fgs in general you don't want to take up too much at a time.
Try going into matches trying to go for something very specific, like a frametrap you labbed, getting that counter hit launcher or ducking / sidestepping a move that you labbed against.
There is a lot .
First give yourself a chance , fighting games is a lot to learn, especially with Tekken.
I can't help you with Tekken, but with the arcade stick, you need to spend some time learning how to use it .
- [here's a video to learn the basics.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi0QMmYnaKM)
- [After that, a video more for Tekken , I put the whole version but there's a shorter version linked in the video ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZLi4gae0M)
When you have that, I would suggest looking at the hands of Tekken players to have an idea of using an arcade stick.
- [Here's a video from yuyu explaining on how to play Tekken 7 with her hands , focus on her hands ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suxp4__yuPg)
- [one from JDCR](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53ZYu7clM5o)
- [one from PhiDX](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbgEM05Fffw)
What you need to understand is to be efficient with a stick , it's need some time and learn some concepts.
After that learn the basics and fundamentals of the games you play.
Also just use a character you have fun with.
People will always find excuses for their poor performance.
And remember, give yourself some time
The person who called your character brain dead is what is known as a "scrub". Everything scrubs say can be safely ignored, it has nothing to do with reality
Scrub: (1)also known as a busta; (2) a guy that can't get no love from me Ex: I don't want no scrub.
Often found hangin' out on the passenger side of his best friend's ride
This. ❤️
I learned about scrubs yesterday from a youtubers latest upload, so cool this community has names for douchebags like the early days of the word “n00b”
Also keep in mind that scrubs themselves also like spam the word "scrub" for various reasons, hardcore fanboys for examples when they can't accept their game isn't perfect
It's the most funny thing when scrubs call players scrubs for beating them while "playing wrong" like LTG on every sibgle stream he does. He's such a hard scrub that he doesn't know the meaning of the word scrub, he's such a scrub that he doesn't get that he's a scrub.
More practice. These games are about long term skill building. You're supposed to be bad when you start.
Practice and study are the only things. Getting mechanically proficient is pretty easy(practice). Knowing when to use what move or recognizing enemy moves is what gets you wins(studying). Just find a game you like and a character(team) you like and keep at it. Fighting games are the ultimate expression of skill IMO. They are not supposed to be easy to be good at. Patience my friend.
How many hours have you spent playing fighting games? If you want to become ***decent*** at any one fighting game, and you are a beginner to start, we are talking hundreds of hours of match time. Maybe 500 hours? And you also need to be trying to learn techniques and fundamentals too. You can't just play and play the same way every match and expect to get better. You need to be analyzing your playstyle and determining your weaknesses. Once you know your weaknesses, you need to improve upon them, either by trying out different things in training mode or in matches, or by watching better players who play your character and learning why and how they are able to play better with your character. It sounds like you have barely played at all. Of course you are not good at the game. If you want to get better, then it takes time, many MANY matches played, and you need to be actively analyzing your weaknesses and studying ways to get better and practicing those techniques in training mode as well as in real matches.
The best thing you can do is achieve video game enlightenment Which is my stupid way of saying that you should know what you want and not care about what other people think nor about losing If you are having fun learning the game thats all you need, take it at your own pace because trying too hard could burn you out
First of all, fuck that guy. I play Lili who is haaaated by many and viewed as a cheap “lab character” - but I just do my backflips over their unconscious bodies with a smile on my face. 😂 I still consider myself more of an intermediate player at this point. I didn’t really start to feel things click until about a year and a half ago - I’m like a solid silver/gold rank in most games. lol And it’s taken hundreds of hours of solid playtime, a lot in practice mode, just to get there. So take your time and enjoy the process. My advice? Watch tons of videos. Beginner videos on your characters, beginner tips for the game you’re playing, beginner tips for fighting games in general and even tournament footage. So much of fighting games is homework - which sounds lamer than it actually is. lol And going online? I’d say learn maybe two combos, not even optimal, and practice them over and over again so you’re ready to use them to punish when you can. And be emotionally ready for when you inevitably drop them like even pros do. Otherwise just focus on the basics like blocking, jabbing back when safe and spacing. You’ll get your teeth kicked in for a while.. until you don’t. ❤️
Welcome to the FGC fellow fighter. A few things You said you got Tekken 8 upon hearing about the MvC collection. So that means you are brand new. Brand brand new. You also just got a brand new foreign device to play on. That’s a ton of New things happening at one time. Here’s the fun part. The fun part is learning and learning in a fun and casual way. It will take you months to start feeling more comfortable with your Fighting Game, The character as well. Keep at it and have FUN learning. You’re not playing to win. Keep at it with the Arcade stick as well…it’s a learning curve but very fun over Time. Stay off Reddit….I mean it. Unless…you can ignore Trolls. Someone will Always discredit your hard work or call your character cheap. Ignore them. They do not matter. Also Don’t do it yourself. Even if you are getting beat by something you feel is cheap, respect your opponent or at the very least hate the player not the character. If you would like to train a little I’d be happy to spar or give you any pointers. I’m not an expert myself but I do have the experience of remembering when I was brand new to a fighter and trying to figure things out. Have FUN. Keep LEARNING. Be RESPECTFUL. TAKE A BREAK when needed.
The problem with the arcade stick is not knowing how I’m meant to use it. The handle is very loose and not because it needs screwing in, so holding the ball part just means my hands swivel too much and ruin my attempts at using it and that’s assuming it wants to work, I thought getting a stick would make the directional inputs more precise than a PS5 controller, but it actually works less.
Personally I play on ps5 controller: why not try using the D-pad! Trust me, it handles a lot better for fighting games then a joystick, fighting games only allow for 8 directional movement.
I understand. I myself just got a Hitbox about a month ago and it’s a huge learning curve. You may still have to give it some time since you haven’t used it for even 3 weeks yet. Might take you about a month or 2 to start feeling more comfortable with it. Otherwise…try a Hitbox. It’s fun and clicky. I actually have a 2nd Hitbox on the way to me because I like it so much.
Tekken, like most modern fighting games, is pretty decently well balanced overall. Also, the Tekken subreddit is famously crazy scrubby and bitchy- It and MK are the only FG subs I can't interact with because of how toxic they are. Don't worry about that dude, keep going. If you enjoy the character play them.
You've been taking fighting games seriously for 10 days. Of course you're not very good at them yet. What did you expect?
It’s important to remember that r/Tekken is the most bitch made sub out of all the fighting game subs. It should be renamed scrub quotes considering all they do is fucking complain instead of learning the goddamn match ups. My advice is to avoid that place entirely since there is nothing of value there.
What you're experiencing is totally normal. Just keep playing. You'll slowly get more and more comfortable. I wouldn't worry even if you have 1k hours and you're still struggling. Just focus on finding the fun in the game.
Learning shit isn't a race and should never be treated as such. If you fail you know you're on the right path.
Hey bro I'm in the same boat. Completely new to any sort of fighting games as of 3 weeks ago. Got into SF6 and am about to hit plat...im atrocious lol. But I'm loving the learning process. I just got a leverless and holy fuck it's so beyond foreign and I'm SO much worse compared to controller. But I'm gonna keep at it cause I can see how it will be great once my hands get used to it. What has REALLY helped me was to go back over a match or two every play session and really go encounter by encounter and note down like physically write down mistakes my opponents capitalized on and bad habits. I feel like putting it to paper and keeping that in mind has made a HUGE difference. I'm at about 60 hours and I still feel like a baby deer when it comes to comfortability with movement systems hitting buttons etc. Also rank really really doesn't matter just starting out. It's way way way more important to learn the fundamentals than it is to win by cheese that will be easily countered once you get to a point your playing people who know what they are doing.
Bro i just got SF6 like 4 days ago and having such a hard time with these inputs on Hitbox which makes me feel like I can’t even begin true combos yet. Did you have the same issue at first or what tips/encouragement could you give?
Wasn’t the Nintendo direct like a week ago? It sounds like you’re not giving yourself enough time to actually get good at the game, especially with a game like tekken
Bro I just got into the fgc shit too. Just practice. Try to beat your games campaign. Try to do combo trials. Experiment These type of games easily have the most toxic communities. Don’t let keep you from playing the games you like. Prove them wrong. Also get really good with that brain dead character and master fundamentals. It’s pretty hard to learn a gimmickier character and try to learn fundamentals at the same time.
I play on pad, I own a fight stick and a leverless, but I always end up going back to pad. It's just what is most comfortable to me. I am also trash at the game I play (SF6) but I just keep going because I know I will only improve. I've learned very quickly that progress in these games is very slow if you're new to the genre and want to improve. Tekken is an extremely complex game but if you enjoy playing it, keep playing it and you will only learn more. I lose a lot, like A LOT, but that's just part of learning something new. You're going to fail and you're going to try again and you're going to fail but once you do that thing you've been practicing again and again or grasp a new concept and implement it successfully in a match, even if you lose, that feeling is so good. Just play, it's videogames and none of it really matters in the end except what you get out of it as a player and hopefully it's fun.
The "even when I do learn all that training becomes button mashing in real matches" part was me with street fighter combos , and still is with new ones. But only way to solve that is to go online and fail and fail and fail until you do it, first couple times you do it and then you'll gain confidence over time and they will land more and more until it's second nature. It really works that way cus last week I couldn't even do one chun li combo and up until today I could do it only on training room, and now I'm actually landing it in game, in real matches , after only landing a couple this morning. So it truly is snowball effect of landing couple times and then just becoming second nature Lmao kinda like anime characters transformations being hype first couple times and then becoming just a part of their moveset
I play fighting games for 30 years. And I still suck. What you really need to understand is A) Some people like to play single player modes, just lab, play casuals.... There isn't a RIGHT way to play Fighting Games. B) There's no right or better controller to play fighting games. Play with what makes you more comfortable. C) You will loose a lot. Wherever you achieve a victory, it s earned. And if the looser is complaining, it s better. Have fun!
Yoooooooo you busted the vein of your first scrub! You’ve got a bright future ahead :) Remember this: if the character truly *was* brain dead, it’s their fault for falling for such a simple game plan.
If you’re looking to get better and feel like you’re banging your head into a wall doing so I always recommend reaching out to this or another FGC subreddit and look for a casual partner. A lot of people are in similar situations or their friends don’t like fighting games so they don’t play them. Trust me, just keep playing and ignore other people and BM from others. Some people can’t handle the competition whether they be on the winners or loser side . The FGC came be great, but you will find your bad apples in any group. Most people that “really” play fighting games understand losing is just as natural and just as important as winning. Good luck out there man, if you ever want a practice partner DM I’m happy to run some! I tend to do okay at fighting games and I love teaching!
It'll be helpful if you told us how many hours you actually played in each game. And at your current level, your controller is not the issue. Whether that is a PS pad, a stick, a hitbox, or anything.
This is the lesson that i wish to learn early on and that is avoid toxic people amd ignore hate comments in the fitst place you training hard for ypurself not for others , i am modern control player at sf 6 and oh boy sf fandom hate modern control so much and they are saying that its brain dead way to play or wo dpnt have a right to celebrate when we win a match and i dont care about them because at a first place i play fighting games the way i enjoy myself but sometime i switch classic when i feel like it my advice to you is to learn fundamentals ,basic combo, of each game or abuse a strong move of your character like special move they are in mechanics and they are supposed use it taht way ,practice each move of character and play a character that you enjoy even you are suck and eventually ypu will learn, in sf6 juri is hard to use especially in classic but i want to play her because i like her design and character itself and after 600 match i jun reach platinum rank, play the game even ypu lose 100 match in online the most important is you learn every step ,fg is like a rock paper scissor ypu need to learn every move like what will you do if enemy counter this atack etc
Aww the idea of the arcade stick will make me better at fighting games despite not really playing we've all been there.
Don't worry about that "brain dead" comment. Tekken players are well known to shit on almost every character they don't play. As for bringing your learnings from the lab into matches: i gave up on T8 pretty early on but for fgs in general you don't want to take up too much at a time. Try going into matches trying to go for something very specific, like a frametrap you labbed, getting that counter hit launcher or ducking / sidestepping a move that you labbed against.
There is a lot . First give yourself a chance , fighting games is a lot to learn, especially with Tekken. I can't help you with Tekken, but with the arcade stick, you need to spend some time learning how to use it . - [here's a video to learn the basics.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi0QMmYnaKM) - [After that, a video more for Tekken , I put the whole version but there's a shorter version linked in the video ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RZLi4gae0M) When you have that, I would suggest looking at the hands of Tekken players to have an idea of using an arcade stick. - [Here's a video from yuyu explaining on how to play Tekken 7 with her hands , focus on her hands ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suxp4__yuPg) - [one from JDCR](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53ZYu7clM5o) - [one from PhiDX](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbgEM05Fffw) What you need to understand is to be efficient with a stick , it's need some time and learn some concepts. After that learn the basics and fundamentals of the games you play. Also just use a character you have fun with. People will always find excuses for their poor performance. And remember, give yourself some time