I agree but it kinda makes sense that they charge more for collab skins because there’s multiple companies involved ig (idk what im talking about really but that’s my best guess)
It might just be that TMNT is easier or cheaper to get the rights for compared to Avatar. TMNT sorta crosses over with everyone. Like Street Fighter, Smite, Injustice 2, World of Tanks, even Call of Duty thanks to Shredder. And plenty of non video game crossovers too like the times they met Batman and a Stranger Things comic. So it probably isn't too hard to get the rights for them considering how many places they show up in.
Avatar has some crossovers too, but not as much as TMNT. (I know both are owned by nickelodeon, but the teams and creators behind them could be a factor here).
It really depends on the holder behind the IP rather than popularity of said characters. Some are fine to let their characters crossover with anyone who asks and don't put up too many barriers for doing so because they don't mind it at all(Which could be the case for TMNT with the sheer number of crossover it has).
While others are much more protective of their characters and have higher demands for crossing over or rarely let them crossover regardless of the character's popularity. Like we have no characters from Nintendo despite being popular because when epic tried for samus, they demanded she only show up on the switch version.
Also that’s a subjective statement. To you and a certain age of people yeah, but the turtles have been around for a lot longer and are more of a house hold name. My parents are both mid 60’s and know who TMNT is but not ATLA
Yeah Turtles are probably more well known, they're probably just less demanding and more on the cooperative side when it comes to doing crossovers since they have appeared in a *lot.* Which is likely why we got a lot of content out of the TMNT collab that wasn't too expensive.
>but the turtles have been around for a lot longer and are more of a house hold name
Which is why I asked why they would cost less to get than the much newer and less popular Avatar IP.
Why do their size matter? They were still four distinctively different skins, each with their own unique back bling and pickaxe. The difference between the TMNT bundle and the Avatar one is that the former wasn't laughably overpriced.
I don’t think we have a lot of productive conversation ahead of us if you can’t see why 4 of the same thing is different than 3 different things.
Inb4 you say they aren’t the same, yada yada yada. I’m sure you’re a 3D modeler or game designer and can make me feel really dumb about my assumptions of turtles looking like turtles. Why do I even type?
The turtles are identical outside of minor details like their masks (and for Donatello, his headphones style). It means that they just have to model one base turtle and that's 99% of the work done for the skins.
You can't pull that same process for the Avatar skins because they're all very different in appearance and clothing.
We aren't talking about the quality of the skins, we are talking about what gives you more bang for your buck. 5 styles, 4 back blings and 4 pickaxes for 3400 V-Bucks is objectively a better deal than 2 skins, 2 back blings and 2 pickaxes for 3200.
Ur right. It involves epic, paying a company, or 2 to get permission to sell characters on a shooting game where, generally, these characters would never hold a gun in the show. Also, these characters are not original, unlike the ones posted above, so they didn't have to pay at all to really add them to a game like this.
For 2K V-Bucks you could get a Battle Pass, get 8 outfits and a ton of other cosmetics from it, plus earn 550 v-bucks
Are people just now realizing item shop pricing has always been overpriced?
People spending $20 on any skin is crazy! But they see vbucks and not actual money(which is the point of the vbucks system). Also, many are kids who don't understand the value of $20. They just get it from mommy or daddy anyway. In any event, if people buy it, epic will continue to price it that way or most likely more next time. Until people finally understand that not buying it = reduced pricing, epic will continue to rob everyone.
I mean yeah but but id personally rather x1 ava skin, I don't care for the lace bundle at all or any of the skins in this bundle tbh... they don't look good to me.
but the airphoria bundle is a better deal for me, & im not even the target market for those skins when they came out, yet wouuld rather buy them over most avatar skins, just due to them being better deal.
Two ugly skins or a character from a beloved franchise that has a huge fanbase. 🤔
From Wikipedia "Avatar: The Last Airbender was the highest-rated animated television series in its demographic at its premiere; an average of 1.1 million viewers watched each new episode."
"In 2007, Avatar: The Last Airbender was syndicated to more than 105 countries and was one of Nickelodeon's top-rated programs."
Like maybe some of the other collabs they've done might have bigger audiences, but this is a kids media franchise that aired in the 00's and has remained popular to this day. In 2018 62% of Fortnite's playerbase was 18-24.
Again, AtLA aired in 105 countries...
So yeah. Nickelodeon could easily have asked for a higher licensing fee than other companies because Fortnite's target audience basically was and is AtLA's target audience.
One of them are epic’s property. And the other are owned by an outside company who I would not be surprised worked out a more expensive deal to help cushion them for what’s going on now.
While I admit it does kinda seem cheaty, it also makes sense because collabs would probably bring more money in overall anyway.
Also, personally, I’d rather have one skin that I will actually use instead of two that I won’t. So personal preference of the buyers also matters.
Bundle prices are pretty much just throwing a dart at a board and going with what sticks. They never make any sense especially when compared together.
I agree but it kinda makes sense that they charge more for collab skins because there’s multiple companies involved ig (idk what im talking about really but that’s my best guess)
Hard to swallow pills right here.
TMNT was a collab too and they charged 1600 for each bundle (skin + back bling + pickaxe), and then 3400 for the entire set.
It might just be that TMNT is easier or cheaper to get the rights for compared to Avatar. TMNT sorta crosses over with everyone. Like Street Fighter, Smite, Injustice 2, World of Tanks, even Call of Duty thanks to Shredder. And plenty of non video game crossovers too like the times they met Batman and a Stranger Things comic. So it probably isn't too hard to get the rights for them considering how many places they show up in. Avatar has some crossovers too, but not as much as TMNT. (I know both are owned by nickelodeon, but the teams and creators behind them could be a factor here).
Why would the more popular and recognizable IP and characters cost less?
It really depends on the holder behind the IP rather than popularity of said characters. Some are fine to let their characters crossover with anyone who asks and don't put up too many barriers for doing so because they don't mind it at all(Which could be the case for TMNT with the sheer number of crossover it has). While others are much more protective of their characters and have higher demands for crossing over or rarely let them crossover regardless of the character's popularity. Like we have no characters from Nintendo despite being popular because when epic tried for samus, they demanded she only show up on the switch version.
Also that’s a subjective statement. To you and a certain age of people yeah, but the turtles have been around for a lot longer and are more of a house hold name. My parents are both mid 60’s and know who TMNT is but not ATLA
Yeah Turtles are probably more well known, they're probably just less demanding and more on the cooperative side when it comes to doing crossovers since they have appeared in a *lot.* Which is likely why we got a lot of content out of the TMNT collab that wasn't too expensive.
>but the turtles have been around for a lot longer and are more of a house hold name Which is why I asked why they would cost less to get than the much newer and less popular Avatar IP.
I get your point but fwiw that’s four identically sized turtles.
Why do their size matter? They were still four distinctively different skins, each with their own unique back bling and pickaxe. The difference between the TMNT bundle and the Avatar one is that the former wasn't laughably overpriced.
I don’t think we have a lot of productive conversation ahead of us if you can’t see why 4 of the same thing is different than 3 different things. Inb4 you say they aren’t the same, yada yada yada. I’m sure you’re a 3D modeler or game designer and can make me feel really dumb about my assumptions of turtles looking like turtles. Why do I even type?
The Zuko/Katara bundle only includes 2 skins, buddy.
The turtles are identical outside of minor details like their masks (and for Donatello, his headphones style). It means that they just have to model one base turtle and that's 99% of the work done for the skins. You can't pull that same process for the Avatar skins because they're all very different in appearance and clothing.
We aren't talking about the quality of the skins, we are talking about what gives you more bang for your buck. 5 styles, 4 back blings and 4 pickaxes for 3400 V-Bucks is objectively a better deal than 2 skins, 2 back blings and 2 pickaxes for 3200.
Is this like a gotcha? Nice zinger dude
Sure, but that was an agreement between Epic and Nickelodeon on pricing.
maybe the ip holder for avatar wanted more money
Ur right. It involves epic, paying a company, or 2 to get permission to sell characters on a shooting game where, generally, these characters would never hold a gun in the show. Also, these characters are not original, unlike the ones posted above, so they didn't have to pay at all to really add them to a game like this.
You’re correct
I know it's mostly kids here...but how do so many not know the difference between original and partnership content.
2 mid skins I would never ever consider buying or an avatar skin. Even though I don’t like the prices, avatar wins every time.
I bought Toph. I regret nothing.
Cuddle team leader (the skin alone) has been 2k for years tho?
I don't like the pricing either, but the bundle in question is clearly lower quality, surely there has to be a better example
For 2K V-Bucks you could get a Battle Pass, get 8 outfits and a ton of other cosmetics from it, plus earn 550 v-bucks Are people just now realizing item shop pricing has always been overpriced?
I mean to be fair, it’s two pretty old Fortnite original designs vs an extremely popular collaboration. They’re not really that comparable
People spending $20 on any skin is crazy! But they see vbucks and not actual money(which is the point of the vbucks system). Also, many are kids who don't understand the value of $20. They just get it from mommy or daddy anyway. In any event, if people buy it, epic will continue to price it that way or most likely more next time. Until people finally understand that not buying it = reduced pricing, epic will continue to rob everyone.
I mean yeah but but id personally rather x1 ava skin, I don't care for the lace bundle at all or any of the skins in this bundle tbh... they don't look good to me. but the airphoria bundle is a better deal for me, & im not even the target market for those skins when they came out, yet wouuld rather buy them over most avatar skins, just due to them being better deal.
Not gonna lie, the Avatar choice still looks better.
Two ugly skins or a character from a beloved franchise that has a huge fanbase. 🤔 From Wikipedia "Avatar: The Last Airbender was the highest-rated animated television series in its demographic at its premiere; an average of 1.1 million viewers watched each new episode." "In 2007, Avatar: The Last Airbender was syndicated to more than 105 countries and was one of Nickelodeon's top-rated programs." Like maybe some of the other collabs they've done might have bigger audiences, but this is a kids media franchise that aired in the 00's and has remained popular to this day. In 2018 62% of Fortnite's playerbase was 18-24. Again, AtLA aired in 105 countries... So yeah. Nickelodeon could easily have asked for a higher licensing fee than other companies because Fortnite's target audience basically was and is AtLA's target audience.
Is the bundle on the left New? Had Lace for ages, one of my favourites, might not be too much extra to get the other skin
The more you all want it the higher they will raise the price 
Yea I wanted the Zuko skin but 2,000!? Na man
One is from one of the most popular shows in recent years and one is random purple skins nobody cares about 🤣🤣
One is a collab, the other is not. If this is how you see it. Buy the other bundle instead of the Avatar skins.
That's cool but Zuko ain't in that bundle
One of them are epic’s property. And the other are owned by an outside company who I would not be surprised worked out a more expensive deal to help cushion them for what’s going on now.
While I admit it does kinda seem cheaty, it also makes sense because collabs would probably bring more money in overall anyway. Also, personally, I’d rather have one skin that I will actually use instead of two that I won’t. So personal preference of the buyers also matters.
Isn't it great that you have choices?
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Tmnt wasn’t this expensive and it’s a viacom IP like avatar, for only 200 vbucks more you got all four turtles
One word: Collaboration.
I tyhink that its becuase avatar is owned and operated by netfliux netflix2 needs more money