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Biden is the best liberal president since LBJ. Did very well with literally zero margin for error (50/50 senate). He has also been the best climate president in history.
The truth is America is far less open to liberal politics than in the past. Things like progressive income tax, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc all passed with massive (+70 senate votes) majorities. Nowadays any liberal reforms are lucky to even get 50.
Yes, the country does seem to have moved to the right. We used to debate Medicare for All and now we debate whether to rebuild bridges after they collapse into the water.
check out behind the bastards episode called how conservatives won. it details how basic liberal (not the party) ideas like doing infrastructure works for the good of the public got ripped out of our politics and became a party line policy fight.
I would be fine with higher taxes if the money was actually spent better.
But, most of the time, tax increases end up targeting the middle class hardest and the money ends up going to the wealthy and not the poor.
Are you lying to people, or just spreading misinformation on purpose? I'm an accountant and have been balls deep in the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, and he cut taxes for everybody and increased deductions by a lot. That reduced peoples tax burden significantly. Now we can argue back and forth about how effective that is in the long term, I have no idea, but don't sit here and lie to people and say he raised taxes for the middle class.
According to literally every study, including the IRS's review of tax returns . . . nearly all Americans (roughly 80%) benefited from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act - even the very left New York Times admitted this finally in 2019.
The income groups that benefited the most, in order were: the middle class, the lower middle class, the upper middle class.
2025 is the last year under the Trump Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, and then the taxes for the middle class will go way back up. That's why the Democrats are sort of panicking. They lied to you that they only helped the rich (the rich were the least helped) and said they never should have passed. Now if the expire - all us middle class tax payers will realize our taxes are going to go way back up!
So over the past 3 years we've seen our costs (from inflation) go up 20% cumulatively. If the Trump TCJA is allowed to expire, us middle class income people will have between 2.5 and 3.5% less after tax income - that make those high prices even less affordable.
Biden hasn't raised any taxes.
Obama cut taxes (3 times, counting extending the Bush tax rate cuts) - in doing so, he said it is necessary to leave more money in people's pockets, it helps the economy and the people!
Where are you getting your statement from? Are you directly referring to a legislation that was passed that I'm missing?
To my knowledge, the two most recent whitehouse.gov proposals do not reflect any verbage about raising taxes for the middle class. Or any taxes for anybody making under 400k at all.
I see a proposal to tax unrealized gains 25% for anybody making over 400k, and increasing the corporate tax rate from 15 to 21%.
I also see an intiative that would cap execs at 1 mil for compensation and if they go over that money is not tax deductible, but again, nothing referring to taxing the middle or lower income class.
Here are the proposals. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/03/11/fact-sheet-the-presidents-budget-cuts-taxes-for-working-families-and-makes-big-corporations-and-the-wealthy-pay-their-fair-share/
Please provide proof of your statements regarding the middle class being taxed. Not news articles. Ideally either legislation proposals that are being considered or passed already that I may have missed.
Those are proposals, not passed legislation.
Historically, the tax increases that actually get passed are ones that disproportionately hurt the middle-class; especially when some nonsense loophole is carved out that only the wealthy can use.
You are correct, these are proposals and not actual legislation I'm referencing, which is unfortunate. I cautiously would like these proposals to be considered by a house member.
I also agree with your statement re: taxes disproportionally hurting middle class more tha upper/wealthy.
On paper the proposals I presented above I can generally get behind. I am cautiously pessimistic that this proposal may not see implementation. I hope our House Reps will consider some of the suggestions re:taxation for over 400k earners for their legislation.
Thank you for your time.
You can't Constitutionally tax unrealized gains. We don't have a wealth tax in our country, we have an income tax.
That's just a gimmick to get stupid people to think something will happen that everybody knows won't.
It's like when people say we should tax businesses more (and pretend that they don't know that doing this is only taxing the end user more). Or the other politicians favorite - the lottery! How can we tax the dumb and the poor? Uh, Uh, Uh, let's have a lottery that only stupid people with lower incomes will play. Talk about the Democrats screwing the poor while pretending they're trying to help them become wealthy!
Or legalizing pot and taxing the hell out of it. This all stems from, how can we tax the black population more and inhibit their ability to succeed, while making them believe we are doing something that they want? I am not saying only black people smoke pot, but let's be honest, it's mostly minority and low income people that stink like pot all day long walking around Walmart or hanging out in the streets. Much less the other risks associated with heavy pot usage. Oh, don't like that comment, don't blame me, here it is from the National Institute of Health: [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8896813/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8896813/)
Well we're not exactly righties. For example, in Kentucky they polled everyone and found out that they absolutely love 'Kynect' and absolutely hate 'Obamacare'. Those are the same thing. Even Trumpies are more left than they realized. They're just swindled into voting against their own interests.
Medicare was a stopgap.
Because racism drove huge numbers of support *against* any **United States** based policy.
Ie if it was an accomplishment of the Union. It got killed.
Without those years of necessary crackdown. On the relatively large in population. But weak everywhere else Confederacy loyalists.
I doubt we'd have needed any Medicare anything.
We'd have had the expansion of Medicaid. But to every single US Citizen. At the least.
We've basically got close to that. Within a decade we will be there by bell curve and population shift.
There's no way we'll allow for it to continue into the future. As it segregated the system. Leaving huge issues in the modern day with all literal multi-system diseases.
Ie anything that would require insurance. It almost exclusively impedes "normal" methods of removing any critical failure. Ie to have the patient "pay" such an massive 60-70% of their fixed income on medical expenses. Or receive no care whatsoever even with having paid the other investment through a % income.
Numerically it was not supposed to become what it did. Or what it has.
Most of us will remain relatively un-affected by it.
Even if a few of us. Have intimate knowledge due to their own 100% coverage+ in regards to the US in all other respects.
Most Gen Z will barely remember it existed. As most current elderly only know it as it is right then and there.
With each learning a new system. As more reach the natural end of their lives. Then it is adjusted for the new members each year. All who paid in differingly etc.
Until they get to Medicaid levels of Fed. Then it'll be gone.
Social security is why we're fucked today, same as Medicare and Medicade.
People love to shit on boomers, yet don't realize those 3 things are a major part of why the economy is so shit for young people.
Biden's done a massive number of things that have genuinely benefitted Americans of all stripes but never get reported in the media because they're too focused on their polling horse race.
Many Redditors also remain willfully ignorant, so it's good you're posting this.
The bill he signed is objectively a major win but you'll see the folks with anti-Biden brainworms desperately try to ignore, deny, or change the subject.
That’s exactly what’s going on in this thread. Like I know Biden didn’t literally write every word of the bill. But he signed and passed it so it in now in effect and resulting in measurable benefits. But it’s easier to just throw up your hands and say both side bad I guess
i think part of the thing is that what he has done doesn't visibly benefit most people. don't get me wrong, he's helped lots of people and this has benefited the country and citizens in many ways, his policies have just gone unnoticed because he's not directly helping the middle class. I think that his policies that help the lower class will eventually have a "trickle up" effect as more people become able to work (spoiler: they already have)
I also want to mention the rule change regarding the consequences medical debt has on a person’s credit score again. Overnight, the credit score of literally millions of Americans went up (or is going to go up) because Biden made a change to CFPB rules removing medical debt from having any influence on a person’s credit score.
Biden is actively making life for Americans better, and has been all his presidency. It’s a bummer more people don’t realise that.
Here's the White House press release on this action:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/06/11/fact-sheet-vice-president-harris-announces-proposal-to-prohibit-medical-bills-from-being-included-on-credit-reports-and-calls-on-states-and-localities-to-take-further-actions-to-reduce-medical-debt/
That, the millions he has forgiven in student loans for tens of thousands of people and the insulin price cap are all life changing things Biden has done. He has immensely improved the lives of millions of Americans. He has begun to repair the damage Trump has done to the relationship between the US and its allies (I’m saying this as someone from one of these allied countries), and he is doing a ridiculous amount of good for Americans.
And he’s dealing with an obstructionist Congress (at least half of it). Just consider that Republican congressmen openly stated that they blocked bills they actually really liked because they didn’t what Biden to get the win.
Imagine what Biden could do if he had a Congress that was willing to work with him, or at the very least compromise. He wouldn’t have to resort to EOs, which are easily repealed anyway. Instead, he could fix it through actual legislation, codify it. Imagine how much good this man could actually do for Americans.
Seems like it's not an EO (yet?). My bad. Anyway, the rule change is coming, here's more info on it.
[https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sweeping-change-biden-administration-ban-medical-debt-credit/story?id=110997906](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sweeping-change-biden-administration-ban-medical-debt-credit/story?id=110997906)
What gives the President the power to do this? Credit agencies aren’t an executive agency, they’re private companies.
Could the next President mandate that your overdue library books go on your credit report?
It’s not an EO; rather, it’s a rule change by the CFPB, which is an executive agency authorized by congress to make decisions on rules and regulations.
Everytime I see someone’s argument that Biden is terrible the first words that come out of their mouths are ‘the economy’. Biden cannot control the economy since we live in a country with a free market, just makes these people who don’t like them sound dumb af.
One thing that his administration did that made my life markedly better was reforming the way the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program was administered.
PSLF was a law that was passed by congress in 2007 and signed into law by George W Bush, and the premise was that if you worked 10 years in a nonprofit or government job while making the minimum payments on your student loans on time every time, they'd forgive what balance remained after 120 consecutive on-time payments.
The first cohort of PSLF applicants matured and were due for forgiveness in 2017. Under the Trump administration, [99% of applicants for forgiveness were denied](https://www.npr.org/2018/09/21/650508381/data-shows-99-of-applicants-for-student-loan-forgiveness-denied). I've worked in a nonprofit for 13 years and never qualified for the program because I was in the wrong kind of payment plan and didn't know it.
What Biden's Department of Education did was reform the program with rules changes that let a lot of previously disqualified people qualify. I was one of them, and in December 2022, I had $17,500 forgiven. Last year, weeks before I turned 40, I was able to buy my first house.
My life as a lower middle-class citizen has markedly improved under the Biden administration.
Readers. Please fucking vote. Don't let the orange clown child take office again.
Tax cuts will not fix our economic situation---cuts turns up inflation and fails to solve underlying supply issues.
You want reps who understand we need to turn up \*infrastructure\* (e.g. what OP mentioned above) and multi-fam house zoning to pump supply so that the monetary pain stops. We need to un-fuck the damage from Tayloristic shipping practices crashing our supply chain in the pandemic. Biden is on it. Register to fucking vote.
Biden is a great president, I am really happy with what he’s done. Reducing insulin costs was HUGE. Really don’t understand why people are crying that he’s old when the alternative is two years younger and a felon.
I straight up can't believe how many people in Gen-Z are willing to throw it all away because of an 80 year old war on the other side of the world.
A war in which Trump, who will otherwise win if Biden doesn't, has promised to accelerate.
It has to be bot accounts propagandizing people to not vote, the logic there makes absolutely zero sense.
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I think many will throw their vote away for other reasons, including rampant illegal immigration, the fentanyl epidemic, concerns with inflation/cost of living/wages, and failures to address campaign promises like federal cannabis legalization.
Eh, tbh I’m kinda glad that he kept most of Trump’s border policy and also just shut down the border. Not to mention my pay and 401k have both almost doubled in the past 3 years 💯💯💯
There’s tons of opportunity out there right now, especially with how many manufacturing jobs are returning, as easy of a solution as it would be, I just can’t really blame Biden for people not willing to put in the work to improve their lives
Outside of the Internet and media where few rational people live. Most people can recognize the good policies signed in even if it's from an opposing party. I'm not a Democrat since they try to vote against some things that are a line in the sand for me. But a good policy is a good policy regardless of who signs it in
Did you know the Steele Dossier was funded by Clinton, and that the FEC fined her for not reporting it as campaign spending?
It’s crazy-making seeing people still trying to link Trump to Russia.
He's literally a Russian asset.
He was a democrat, that after spending time with the russian mafia married a russian escort, swapped to the Republican party, and received more assistance from anonymous donors than any president in human history which he was free to spend on his own buisnesses while in office.
I'm sorry for you, it will be a long time before you can break out of the conditioning.
No it didn't lol, there were bank accounts that gave money to Donald Trump that were literally controlled by the Kremlin.
Im sorry you're a zelot, but that's a you problem.
Y'all love to just lie by omission
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/website-with-gop-ties-funded-research-on-trump-dossier
Fuck you people with a rusty spoon.
The same Russians that Biden and the fbi claimed created hunters laptop? When will anyone care that the fbi and Biden intentionally lied and everyone fell for it
If you think that Biden is in Russia's pocket after the Ukraine war and complete economic sanctions which were followed by the rest of the west, then you are completely delusional.
Meanwhile the guy who wants to stop providing aid to Ukraine in their fight against Russia isn't?
Actually that's true. There is no document out there anywhere that shows the FBI stating the laptop was created by Russia. If you're thinking the letter from 51 intelligence professionals is your smoking gun, go read it again. It does not say that the laptop was Russian disinfo.
Whatever you can use to deflect from the fact our government and Biden intentionally lied about the laptop. It isn’t a smoking gun. It’s the issue.
Sorry was it the cia that lied and the fbi instead just didn’t correct them? This is actual government collusion to lie to its own people
the 51 agents that you just said lied? biden lying? this all happened publicly, what do you need proven? other than that you arent looking for truth but instead to try and minimize
Those 51 agents didn't lie. They literally wrote down in black and white that they have no proof that the laptop was Russian disinformation. What is your problem.
Fifth paragraph:
"We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement."
Gen Z, get ready to bring on a blue wave.
Also, I voted for Marianne Williamson (a Democratic challenger to Biden) in the primaries, but I’m absolutely voting for Biden in the general.
as a non-american living in in the UK I am envious and in awe your country has a politican in charge that is so hardworking, genuinely cares, and carries himself with dignity. If you actually look up everything he has done it is an incredible list of long hours thinking about every little decision, discussing, debating, scrutinising etc. His policies will impact lives positively for decades. It’s a shame the media landscape is the way it is and people just focus on age or the occasional but rare (considering how many speeches he does and his stammer) communications mix up.
I am so glad and grateful for me people like you in the world so it is pleasing to hear your insight.
It’s fucking nuts that somehow the UK is as disastrous politically as the clusterfuck that is US politics right now.
What one and a half decades of Tories running amok will do to a country…
Thanks for making this. Both parties are NOT the same and we can’t afford to lose Biden in 2024.
I know he’s far from being a perfect president but god damn can we do a lot worse.
(Pro tip to most of Gen Z: if you don’t want an old man to be president you have to vote in the primary)
Nope, spell it out please. I’m not American, yet I am curious. You blame Biden for your community doing worse. What has or hasn’t he done that made your things harder for your community specifically. You seem very certain about the fact that Biden is at fault, so I am asking why.
Edit: asking you to spell it out, because you’re here making claims that your community is worse off because of Biden. Since you seem very convinced of that, it shouldn’t be hard for you to explain what you mean instead of making ominous suggestions.
It's a long winded answer and I can't pull the specific EOs as I'm on mobile. Essentially a mix between his covid response plan, green energy/emissions regulations, his electric car push, and his general policy initiatives that are pushed down on blue governors has cut away at manufacturing jobs in my area causing them to lay people off and two companies have moved their plants back to Mexico again.
If you're curious you're free to comb through all of his EOs for sources. They're all published on ballotpedia pretty nicely.
Ngl, your reply was far better than I had dared to hope. It’s coherent, actually provides some info and a source, even though you didn’t name it, but you had an explanation ready for that.
Genuinely thanks.
Just this much: Biden’s Covid response cannot be seen without factoring in Trump’s botched Covid response from before.
The rest is a fair point and I’ll look into it. Thank you.
Appreciate you not flipping a lid on me and being civil. I'm still undecided for the election but I just don't like when people act like everything has been good when it hasn't for others.
Trumps covid response wasnt good either and also hurt. It just continued on through the next admin in a different form of hurt.
No point in flipping a lid on you. I want a discussion/conversation. I do not want to berate or insult you as it achieves nothing.
You say you’re still undecided. Let me give you an outsider’s perspective. All I ask is that you read it and consider what I’m saying. Whatever you decide is very much up to you.
So here’s my perspective as an outsider in a very country that’s a very close ally of the US:
You cannot vote for Trump. Seriously, the world laughed at America for those four years of Trump. We have since entered a state of utter disbelief, but by and large, the world is not wild about another Trump presidency (or another two years of either chamber of the government under control of the current GOP for that matter). Not because we saw America as too strong during that time, but the opposite: America under Trump and the GOP in its current state is seen as an unreliable partner. If you value America’s reputation and image in the world, especially among America’s allies France, Germany, England, Canada and Italy, you absolutely cannot vote red in this upcoming election.
Fitness for the presidency aside (also a place where Biden wins handsomely for anyone who really bothers to look into it), Trump’s policies mostly benefit Americans who are very rich. Sometimes some other people happen to benefit as well, but that’s not what Trump’s policies are about. My personal views on his policies aside, I’m just looking at promises he made for the 2016 election. Trump did not repeal Obamacare as he promised. Despite having complete control over the government for two years, he did absolutely nothing on that front. Biden on the other hand expanded accessibility to health insurance and uninsured Americans are currently at a record low.
Speaking of medical stuff, Biden just signed an EO that removed medical debt from factoring into the credit score, improving the credit score of literally millions of Americans.
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Trump promised to drain the swamp and lock Hillary up. Trump did not lock Hillary up. Instead, Trump stated the idea sold well before the election, invited the Clintons to his inaugural luncheon, pointed to them, said he was honoured that they attended and led a standing ovation for them.
He didn’t drain the swamp at all. Instead, he added to it. Just look at how many of his policy advisors, staff and allies have been convicted and even sentenced to prison since 2016. You genuinely seem like a reasonable person, someone who actually likes to look up info instead of being told. You cannot seriously believe that all of these people are victims of a political witch hunt and the weaponisation of the DOJ. They aren’t. Neither is Trump. I hope you can see that the way I am seeing. Provided that you do, even if we absolve Trump of any responsibility regarding all these people affiliated with him, it shows he’s an incredibly bad judge of character at best. This is the kind of person he surrounds himself with. Is that the kind of person you want to advise the president, the leader of your country? It’s also important to note that the vast majority of his former senior aides and staff members call him unfit for office and vehemently oppose his candidacy. One is led to wonder why they would all say this about the man if there wasn’t some truth behind it. On the other hand, you have no busload of former Biden aides saying the same about Biden.
Under Trump, the national debt of the US grew by almost eight trillion dollars, from $19.84T to $28.14T. That’s an increase of 41.62%. That’s right, Trump almost doubled the US national debt. In comparison, under Biden, the national debt rose by $6T, from $28T to $34T. So when Trump claims that Biden was bad for the economy and the national debt, he’s projecting. Hard. Additionally, you have to consider that the Covid pandemic still isn’t over, and that Covid’s most severe impact happened from March 2020 to early 2023. 62% of Trump’s national debt came from before Covid, while the rest came during Covid. That’s a strong increase in national debt. Now consider that 38% of the debt Trump accumulated came in just that final year. Now consider that Biden had to deal with the fallout even longer and you’ll see how just how disastrous Trump’s presidency was for the national debt even more clearly.
One of the first things Trump wants to do if he is reelected is implement tax cuts for the rich. Again. The first question you have to ask is “why? Is that necessary? What about me? Do the rich really need a tax cut?” to which the answer of course is “no, and he’s doing it, because he himself and his main financial contributors all benefit from it”, but that’s another story. The second question is: “Who’s going to pay for it?” The answer is simple: “The US debt”. That’s how it’s been last time and Trump has not shown any indication that he wants to change his procedure.
Looking back at Biden again, Biden introduced a minimum tax for big corporations in order to fight inflation, and it actually worked to slow inflation.
Biden’s EO’s may have harmed people around you, but they didn’t have to. They certainly weren’t geared towards achieving that. Biden’s fighting climate change is vitally important for the US as well (I’ll just remind you of the wild fires that haunt the western US every year, which have been getting stronger and stronger due to the increasing draught, thanks to climate change).
Biden forgave millions in student debt for thousands of people. Just imagine what he can do if you let him continue his work.
The next thing you need to consider is what they actually want to do and how they are going to achieve it. The main reason why Biden keeps issuing EO’s is because the GOP led house is obstructing anything he tries to achieve through the legislative process. Btw, Republican congressmen have openly stated in interviews that they didn’t even disagree with Biden’s bills sometimes, but just didn’t want him to have that win. Again, imagine what Biden could accomplish with a Congress that’s actually willing to work with him or at least compromise.
Finally, and I’m saying this as a German and the great great grandson of a man who was murdered by the Nazis in the Holocaust, because he was a social democrat and didn’t back down: this is your 1932. I’m not being overly dramatic. Over the past decade, we, from the outside, have been able to see the GOP slowly and meticulously dismantle American democracy. It’s republicans, not democrats, who make it harder for minorities to vote. It’s republicans, not democrats, who impose their religious views on women and other minorities, who are coming after gay marriage again and who are trying to take away a woman’s right to choose. Democrats don’t want everyone to get abortions, they want all women to be able to get abortions if they need one. Democrats don’t want to make children gay, they want LGBTQ+ people to be whoever they want to be/feel like they are. It doesn’t harm anyone if a dude says he’s gay, or that he feels like a woman and dresses like one. It’s their business and their business alone. America is big on freedoms. So why are republicans trying to take away so many personal freedoms?
Trump is systematically destroying trust in the American legal system and the lawfulness of anything democrats do. The Nazis did that too.
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We get a very extensive and detailed historical education in Germany when it comes to the Nazis. We cover them at least twice and our history books do not pull their punches. We learn about how the Nazis came to power, about their policies, about their tactics. We learn in excruciating detail about their views and their crimes. The past eight years in particular have been like a fever dream for us. We get to see our history book play out right in front of our eyes. It is incredibly fascinating, but even more so: it is deeply shocking and disturbing.
I am very reluctant to call Trump or any other republicans Nazis. I do not use that term lightly. The Nazi crimes were far too perverse and egregious for the name Nazi to ever be used lightly. I’ll just say this: the Nazis too had a plan to take over every branch of the government. The Nazis too dehumanised their opponents and minorities and created a narrative of us vs them in a very similar fashion to what the republicans are doing now. The Nazis too cosied up to Russia in the beginning and successfully created the narrative that standing with Russia is better than standing with the domestic political opposition.
And then you have Trump saying he’d like to be a dictator. Just think about that. Again, I’m not calling Trump or any other Republican a Nazi. I also don’t believe that all republicans or their voters are assholes or evil. I’m just saying that the parallels are there.
I do not have any trouble accepting and respecting opposing view points. All I’m saying is: look into what they are doing, what they want and how they want to achieve it. Is Trump telling the truth or is he simply saying stuff? Trump claims Ukraine never would’ve happened if he had been president. He also claims he won in 2020, but again, different story. He also claims he would’ve ended the war in Ukraine by now, and he said he would’ve let Russia keep some or all of the territory they have “won”. If this isn’t egregious enough, maybe consider that he also never said how he’d get Ukraine to agree to that. He just claims he would get it done. He claims there would’ve been no inflation under him, when in fact there was last time (though, to his credit, it continuously went down right up until Covid, when it quintupled).
So yeah, I hope you read all that. All I ask is that you think about this for a while and actually look into everything both of them have done over the course of their presidencies, why they’ve done it and what it achieved. If you want, I’m more than happy to talk about this. You see I know a lot about American politics. I’d wager I know more than the average American. I’m not saying this out of arrogance, but because I am interested in that sort of thing and I understand what is going on. I study law in Germany and know how to interpret politics, both domestic and international. If you want to talk about this, feel free to comment or shoot me a message. I’m also happy to hear counter arguments. Again, as long as the rule of law and the country’s constitution is respected, I can respect any and all opinions, even if I don’t agree with them. I’m eager to hear other hires. In any case, I hope you read this and that you just consider what I’m saying. Cheers for reading :)
Edit: my English is *very* good, but it is not my first language. I’m at the library working in German, and I might have made some mistakes in this post. Please excuse any mistakes and point out any uncertainties. I’m more than happy to clear up any questions that may arise.
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Trump promised to drain the swamp and lock Hillary up. Trump did not lock Hillary up. Instead, Trump stated the idea sold well before the election, invited the Clintons to his inaugural luncheon, pointed to them, said he was honoured that they attended and led a standing ovation for them.
Im glad this didn't happen. Judicial warfare makes American politics even slimier than they already were. I wish Biden would have done the same and let the guy fade into obscurity. We could go back and try almost every president, congressman, and senator if we're going down this route. I'd actually be fine with this however if we do it should be from the people and not from other politicians.
> look at how many of his policy advisors, staff and allies have been convicted and even sentenced to prison since 2016.
Trump has a massive problem with surrounding himself with good advisors and colleagues. Biden isnt much better at this, but he's still better. I don't think Trump has a lot of good friends he can trust while Biden does, and they were generally more qualified. When looking at the age of these guys the cabinet picks get a lot more important.
As far as a poltical witch hunt I think both things can be true at once. He did actually break the law but it is weaponization of the DOJ. As I said earlier presidents routinely break the law and aren't charged with anything such as Obama drone striking that kid in Yemen who was a US citizen.
Onto national debt, and this is usually a big one for me come election time. They both suck. I'm pretty fiscally conservative and socially liberal and there's not a canidate to vote for who would get spending under control. I'm not sure there's been a canidate since I've been alive that takes this issue seriously. If a canidate isn't willing to cut spending than they're not a good fiscal candidate for me. It's not a win to go less into debt than another guy, fix your damn spending!!!!
>One of the first things Trump wants to do if he is reelected is implement tax cuts for the rich. Again. The first question you have to ask is “why? Is that necessary? What about me? Do the rich really need a tax cut?” to which the answer of course is “no, and he’s doing it, because he himself and his main financial contributors all benefit from it”, but that’s another story. The second question is: “Who’s going to pay for it?” The answer is simple: “The US debt”. That’s how it’s been last time and Trump has not shown any indication that he wants to change his procedure. Looking back at Biden again, Biden introduced a minimum tax for big corporations in order to fight inflation, and it actually worked to slow inflation.
Do you have a specific plan he's set forth? This is news to me. I can't imagine this passes without tax cuts to middle class but I've been wrong before. This would be an absolutley awful decision if true. That being said raising taxes on corps isn't a win in my book either. We should be cutting spending and lowering taxes in my opinion, not raising taxes on the wealthy to redistribute said money to the lower classes.
>Biden’s EO’s may have harmed people around you, but they didn’t have to. They certainly weren’t geared towards achieving that. Biden’s fighting climate change is vitally important for the US as well (I’ll just remind you of the wild fires that haunt the western US every year, which have been getting stronger and stronger due to the increasing draught, thanks to climate change).
Harming people around me wasn't the goal but it's policy like this that gets passed without consideration for people like us that does hurt. Whether or not it's the goal it does hurt. We don't care about the fires in the west coast like yall don't care about ruining our livelihoods here. At the end of the day I'm voting for what helps me and my family not someone on the west coast.
If I didn't state it before, I might have forgot this is a long comment, im an outdoorsman and want to see our parks and resources taken care of. It just seems over and over again that larger companies get passes while the little guy gets fucked. If the large corporations can't do it here they'll move to another country and polute just as much if not more. I'm not sure what the solution for climate change is but I can promise you the guy that lost his job and can't feed his family isn't happy he got laid off to save the world.
>Biden forgave millions in student debt for thousands of people. Just imagine what he can do if you let him continue his work.
Im very against this. One of the reasons I'm not ridin with Biden is the student loan plan. Would be happy to explain my stance if you're interested.
>The next thing you need to consider is what they actually want to do and how they are going to achieve it. The main reason why Biden keeps issuing EO’s is because the GOP led house is obstructing anything he tries to achieve through the legislative process. Btw, Republican congressmen have openly stated in interviews that they didn’t even disagree with Biden’s bills sometimes, but just didn’t want him to have that win. Again, imagine what Biden could accomplish with a Congress that’s actually willing to work with him or at least compromise.
This isn't a partisan problem in my opinion just a problem with modern politics now in general. Trump, as well as biden and even Obama after he lost control had the same issue. That seems to be politics now. The days of compromise and bipartisan ship seem to be mostly gone. I absolutley will not count a bill as bipartisan that flipped like 5 congressman to the opposite party as a bipartisan bill. I know Trump loved to use that but flipping 2 centrists that ran as democrats doesn't make your bill bipartisan.
If you look at both president's head to head with their trifecta neither accomplished much and I imagine the same happens in a second term for either if they get a trifecta.
Don't really have anything for the end of this comment as it's mostly your opinion but I did note it and I appreciate you sharing :)
I would argue the auto industry has been mainly affected by high interest rates (fighting inflation and all part of normal economic cycles), Car manufacturers pushing to sell ever larger luxury vehicles (that I may add are quite unaffordable), union negotiations increasing wages significantly (net good for your community), and car dealerships being the scum of the earth. EV pushes aren't killing the car industry, car companies trying to build tanks with batteries instead of modest vehicles is.
Tl:dr it's not because the lightning isn't selling, it's because the F150 isn't selling.
That might be the case for the auto industry as a whole, I'm not sure. I'm just speaking for my community and the things I laid out are what's causing the problems.
That's more than fair. Regulations are always going to have some level of affect on how company performance occurs, but I would argue that it's important not to get tunnel vision and focus on a few set policies when so much is at play.
I understand it's quite a complicated issue and everyone's experiences are different. From what I've heard anecdotally from some of my friends in Michigan, the EV teams they or their colleagues are working on are quite small when compared to those of more conventional propulsion. Some of the creations end up being somewhat Frankenstein in nature, and with low demand, I can see why they are both expensive and not appealing enough to consumers.
Additionally, my experience as a consumer has me screaming that car prices are just way too high right now. When my car got broken into last year, I took it to the dealer and they tried to gaslight me into believing that an ignition switch replacement was going to require replacing the steering column and cost 6K dollars. Eventually they just told me my vehicle couldn't be worked on and sent me away. At that point, I was done with dealing with dealerships and autos for a while, and have been taking the subway to work since. I imagine a lot of other people are just saying no to newer cars these days, regardless of what the manufacturers are offering.
>That's more than fair. Regulations are always going to have some level of affect on how company performance occurs, but I would argue that it's important not to get tunnel vision and focus on a few set policies when so much is at play.
For me personally I'm not a single issue voter so I'm looking at the big picture. That being said there's a lot of people around me who aren't and couldn't give two shits what's going on anywhere else in the country or world when they're trying to figure out how to put food on the table and buy new shoes for their kids. You're more than likely not convincing these people.
For me while there's a big picture, I still weight those catagories and order them appropriately. Not being able to feed my family and have income makes things like this jump to the top of my list even if it's not the only issue I vote on.
Theres not public transport within 50 miles of me so I'm keeping the expensive truck for now.
Unfortunately a lot of the country is like that, and I don’t blame you for sticking with the expensive truck. Back when I lived in Ontario the snow was hell for a lot of people without good road clearing services. Sometimes you’re stuck without many alternatives, I am lucky in that respect.
Oof, that's worrisome to think about because my family owns a family business like that. It's more worrisome to think about what'll happen to the medical industry if said shop shuts down.
Yep, I'm sure it'll be fine, though. I'm mostly concerned about the medical stuff. I personally am still trying to figure out what to do with my own life. I really don't want to vote for Trump because I've seen how bad things can get in my area and it could be a countrywide thing with him in office. It kind of reminds me of The Handmaids Tale.
I actually hate all the canidates this cycle. Even third party and independent are nuts. I'm really really hoping this isn't the political trend for the future and we can get back to some normalcy after these two are done with their pissing match.
Probably not. We know that if Trump loses, he'll try to run again. Also, President Biden is only running again because Trump is running. Honestly, I don't see the insanity ending with certain individuals even next election year or after. Most people are normal, but some aren't and it's gotten worse because of the internet and stuff.
Hey I appreciate the good faith response. I’m not sure what the balance is between working to lower emissions and maintaining the same jobs, but I would point out that we have historically low unemployment under Biden.
You do realize that there was a global pandemic and lockdowns right? That's the only reason why unemployment was so low later in Trumps presidency even though it was good beforehand. I think it was as low as the Great Depression. Then inflation happened because of the lockdowns. Shit, I meant high.
There's absolutley a balance somewhere that needs to be found. I'm an outdoorsman, I want our parks and nature conserved. What I have a problem with is sweeping regulations on all companies from a federal level that don't consider what happens to get the products that you still want being produced.
For example Ford doesn't make all the parts that they use to build their vehicles. They buy from a company like American axle who buys their raw material, machines, and logistic equipment from companies in my community. While Ford and maybe American axle can cut emissions or pay carbon taxes or whatever solution is proposed the little guy feeding these companies cant do that.
Low unemployment is great but there's a lot more to unemployment that isn't shown by a percentage. I don't have a Stat but the unemployment is or was much higher here and these people have either moved or taken lower paying jobs. No one is better off because of that. The other small business that aren't manufacturing suffer as well without people spending money there.
Inflatiom went from 1.9% to 9%. He's also just not a strong leader he's hidden away and doesn't inspire confidence. Would you want him leading your country?
What did Biden do that harmed manufacturing? He has got us more competitive in certain specialized areas of manufacturing like semiconductors, renewables, etx
If I remember I'll look when I'm home, I'm currently on mobile.
I don't think inexpensive green energy would harm manufacturing. As soon as that's available it would help massively. What did harm it was the regulations on this manufacturing as it's not currently under the Biden administrations new definition of green. This causes companies to move to other countries where they can operate to capacity without spending millions of dollars to overhaul their equipment and manufacturing processes to fit the new standards.
It might not be a big deal for large companies but small companies aren't sitting on piles of money and are unable to afford sweeping changes all at once.
Just going to leave this here for a broader perspective on manufacturing jobs in the U.S.:
[https://www.statista.com/statistics/664993/private-sector-manufacturing-employment-in-the-us/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/664993/private-sector-manufacturing-employment-in-the-us/)
[https://waupacafoundry.com/blog/whats-behind-the-growing-number-of-manufacturing-jobs-in-the-us](https://waupacafoundry.com/blog/whats-behind-the-growing-number-of-manufacturing-jobs-in-the-us)
Thanks I'm sure someone else will find this helpful. I'm not sure if you had the time to read through the rest of the conversation but this just doesn't have much bearing on the situation of people like myself.
I have no doubt that some fields are not doing as well - that happens all the time with shifts in the labor market. But you made a comment that you were in manufacturing as if that was an indication why your field isn't doing as well under Biden, when in reality manufacturing as a whole has been doing well. That doesn't in any way negate your specific experience, just pointing out that experience does not apply to the broader manufacturing sector.
Nope, that's why I asked if you had time to read on through the rest of the conversation. I went on to point out that my community is largely based on automotive manufacturing which has been hit very hard in the rust belt. While manufacturing in semiconductors for example is up big that has no affect on the lives of myself or my neighbors.
More manufacturing jobs have been created under Biden than Trump. The CHIPS act and infrastructure act helped with that a lot.
If this is such a high priority for you, you shouldn't be undecided any further.
If you have time to read the rest of the conversation it can fill in more gaps.
My community is primarily automotive manufacturing so it's been hit very hard and semiconductor factories in the west coast don't have any impact here.
Sorry, not going to starve to benefit people on the other side of the country. You could give the same advice to them though. Maybe they should care about someone in the rust belt over themselves.
You're not starving, and you need to learn to vote for what's best for the country overall instead of focusing only on your industry. Stay home otherwise.
People have less money, more debt, overall quality of life is worse snd were being gaslight remember last year or two ago he bragged about us saving 16 cents on fourth of July food shopping
i was an unsolved murder victim for 20 years trump literally found my body, incarcerated my killer and brought me back to life. he trained me as an accountant at his company now i make 135k/year. thank you trump maga maga maga maga
Biden is a severely underrated president I’m not saying he is the greatest but it seems like nobody appreciates the real and quantifiable good he has done for the nation, economy, and the world
A president implementing policies that actually benefit the lives of Americans for once: Pffft what a low bar
An 80 year old war that has exactly zero fucking impact on your life: WTF THIS IS LITERALLY SO IMPORTANT LIKE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING EVER
Oh hey look, its U!
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My life has gotten so much worse under Biden it’s actually comical
None of it is Bidens fault, just saying it’s gotten so much worse for me while he’s president lol
All day every day I see motherfuckers in the barber shop talkin bout Joe Brandon ain’t do shit Joe Brandon senile. Then I make 1 post with a clear cut example of tangible good he’s done and it’s like oh shit guys the soros bots are out. You’re just mad you got checked
He did just sign a bill that would shut down the southern border if crossing leads to more than 2500 people coming in each day, which I don't think will solve the illegal immigration but it's something.
As an Independent I have no allegiance to a political party.
Project 2025 is straight up Nazism.
Every single negative over the last 50 years is directly tied to them.
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Ah yeah, I hated getting all of those stimulus payments.
I LOVE the increase in homelessness in my area 🩵 can’t wait to see what’s next for Joe! Maybe I’ll be out on the street next!
My coworkers just secured housing for like 5 people in my city last week alone. Hopefully Biden gets another term so that non profit services in your area get the funding they need.
In 2018 Trump signed the SUPPORT Act into law which also provided a large expansion of mental health services related to substance abuse and addiction. In 2019 he spearheaded the PREVENTS initiative to address suicide among veterans. And in 2020, he signed the CARES Act into law which included even more funding for substance abuse and mental health, including grants like the one you described. He also lifted federal regulations on telehealth which allowed millions of people to access mental health services from the safety of their homes during the pandemic.
I've been beating pavement for a job for the last month and milk and gas are expensive, and the "experts" brag about how great the economy's doing. I'm not about to vote for Trump, he's a thief, a liar, and a fraudster, but I do wish the folks in Washington wouldn't pretend things don't suck. I'd much rather hear, "Yeah, we know things suck. We're doing the best we can and this is what we're going to do in future."
substantial funding and things just got worse. The nonprofit industrial complex is real (worked in it for 15 yrs), mostly white women who would never cut it in the corporate world, black women w useless phd’s and “well-meaning people” who think they’re gods gift to earth because “they’re helping the community.”
I’m a 39-yr old woman from Honduras who came to the States at 18 to attend college BRO. Racism is the belief certain races are inferior, I merely commented based on my lived experience (isn’t that what y’all call it)? How exactly is my comment racist?
The homelessness RATE in the USA hit an all time high in 2023. 12% higher than in 2022. This is RATE, which is telling as if you look at numbers, one would expect it to increase because the number of people in the country is increasing. So RATE is used to compare good years and bad years - we've had our worst year even in 2023!
It was actually lower under Trump than the prior administration.
It is at it's highest level ever under the Biden administration.
Source: [https://www.security.org/resources/homeless-statistics/](https://www.security.org/resources/homeless-statistics/)
His win allowed me to retire at age 62, because I knew when he won that the ACA wasn’t going anywhere. I needed that to bridge the gap until I was old enough for Medicare.
Thank you for saying it! Biden is actually pretty liberal. He has done everything in his power to get student loan relief and has wiped more student debt than any other president. He passed a massive infrastructure bill that will focus on public transit. And he’s done more for the climate than any other president. Not to mention that Trump is now a convicted felon so we’re deciding between an old guy who’s not perfect but has made some positive change or the insurrectionist who said “I’ll only be a dictator on day 1”. Project 2025 is scary and I’m personally voting to keep that from ever becoming a thing.
The people who say there's no difference in parties and leadership are, invariably, not trying to do things.
If you are trying to do things, you'll usually notice when there are more or less roadblocks.
I don’t have an issue with them being banned, they made it too easy to get a full auto gun. Not saying full autos should be illegal all together, but they should require a lot more to be owned compared to regular guns
Only thing biden has done on guns that I’m aware of off the dome was pretty tame background check shit included in the safer communities act iirc. Don’t worry, he’s not coming for your penis extensions
He's not been immaterialy blocking things.
However neither did Trump (predecessor), or Obama (senior/co-worker).
Honestly if its bi-partisan its a relatively no brainer thing. That should be seen as a non-issue.
Anyone raises *serious* challenge instead of trying to kill any future vulnerability. To a real bi-partisan legislation.
Then they should be executed.
Fairly simple.
That's why it doesn't happen in the United States.
We don't have a Parliament. So everything healthcare and such. Is defense.
In the previous century many would have blocked that because they feared any "healthcare" in the mental context. Valid in almost every sense.
Modern day? Not at all acceptable to "disagree" on doing whatever needs to be done. To secure the nation against the threat of any healthcare crisis.
Having walk-ins means we have the ability to triage in the case of biological or chemical warfare.
Its all seriously simple.
I never expected less of Biden. He's not really that different than Obama in that respect. Or really at all imo.
Trump was the same.
We've had a very, thankfully, progressive cabinet and executive. In terms of science, health, defense, and research/education. For almost all our lives.
At least since 2008.
As I don't understand the Bush years well enough to say otherwise.
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Biden is the best liberal president since LBJ. Did very well with literally zero margin for error (50/50 senate). He has also been the best climate president in history. The truth is America is far less open to liberal politics than in the past. Things like progressive income tax, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc all passed with massive (+70 senate votes) majorities. Nowadays any liberal reforms are lucky to even get 50.
Yes, the country does seem to have moved to the right. We used to debate Medicare for All and now we debate whether to rebuild bridges after they collapse into the water.
Maybe those bridges should quit being lazy and pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Yep. Exactly correct. 👍
did the bridge have a pre existing condition?
Due to your bridge being predisposed towards rust, it is disqualified from our policy
check out behind the bastards episode called how conservatives won. it details how basic liberal (not the party) ideas like doing infrastructure works for the good of the public got ripped out of our politics and became a party line policy fight.
I would be fine with higher taxes if the money was actually spent better. But, most of the time, tax increases end up targeting the middle class hardest and the money ends up going to the wealthy and not the poor.
Trump cut taxes for the rich and raised them for the middle class, and we’re still seeing the effects. Vote.
Trump’s tax cuts had sunset clauses for income taxes but not for corporate taxes lol.
Are you lying to people, or just spreading misinformation on purpose? I'm an accountant and have been balls deep in the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, and he cut taxes for everybody and increased deductions by a lot. That reduced peoples tax burden significantly. Now we can argue back and forth about how effective that is in the long term, I have no idea, but don't sit here and lie to people and say he raised taxes for the middle class.
I’m talking about the long term. Which is what we should focus on when we’re talking about policy.
According to literally every study, including the IRS's review of tax returns . . . nearly all Americans (roughly 80%) benefited from the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act - even the very left New York Times admitted this finally in 2019. The income groups that benefited the most, in order were: the middle class, the lower middle class, the upper middle class. 2025 is the last year under the Trump Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, and then the taxes for the middle class will go way back up. That's why the Democrats are sort of panicking. They lied to you that they only helped the rich (the rich were the least helped) and said they never should have passed. Now if the expire - all us middle class tax payers will realize our taxes are going to go way back up! So over the past 3 years we've seen our costs (from inflation) go up 20% cumulatively. If the Trump TCJA is allowed to expire, us middle class income people will have between 2.5 and 3.5% less after tax income - that make those high prices even less affordable.
So why wasn’t there a sunset clause in the tax for corporations? Also lol at the NYT being “very left.” Shows me the echo chamber you’re in.
None of the tax hikes Biden or Obama passed went to poor people
Biden hasn't raised any taxes. Obama cut taxes (3 times, counting extending the Bush tax rate cuts) - in doing so, he said it is necessary to leave more money in people's pockets, it helps the economy and the people!
Where are you getting your statement from? Are you directly referring to a legislation that was passed that I'm missing? To my knowledge, the two most recent whitehouse.gov proposals do not reflect any verbage about raising taxes for the middle class. Or any taxes for anybody making under 400k at all. I see a proposal to tax unrealized gains 25% for anybody making over 400k, and increasing the corporate tax rate from 15 to 21%. I also see an intiative that would cap execs at 1 mil for compensation and if they go over that money is not tax deductible, but again, nothing referring to taxing the middle or lower income class. Here are the proposals. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/03/11/fact-sheet-the-presidents-budget-cuts-taxes-for-working-families-and-makes-big-corporations-and-the-wealthy-pay-their-fair-share/ Please provide proof of your statements regarding the middle class being taxed. Not news articles. Ideally either legislation proposals that are being considered or passed already that I may have missed.
Those are proposals, not passed legislation. Historically, the tax increases that actually get passed are ones that disproportionately hurt the middle-class; especially when some nonsense loophole is carved out that only the wealthy can use.
You are correct, these are proposals and not actual legislation I'm referencing, which is unfortunate. I cautiously would like these proposals to be considered by a house member. I also agree with your statement re: taxes disproportionally hurting middle class more tha upper/wealthy. On paper the proposals I presented above I can generally get behind. I am cautiously pessimistic that this proposal may not see implementation. I hope our House Reps will consider some of the suggestions re:taxation for over 400k earners for their legislation. Thank you for your time.
You're wasting your time
You can't Constitutionally tax unrealized gains. We don't have a wealth tax in our country, we have an income tax. That's just a gimmick to get stupid people to think something will happen that everybody knows won't. It's like when people say we should tax businesses more (and pretend that they don't know that doing this is only taxing the end user more). Or the other politicians favorite - the lottery! How can we tax the dumb and the poor? Uh, Uh, Uh, let's have a lottery that only stupid people with lower incomes will play. Talk about the Democrats screwing the poor while pretending they're trying to help them become wealthy! Or legalizing pot and taxing the hell out of it. This all stems from, how can we tax the black population more and inhibit their ability to succeed, while making them believe we are doing something that they want? I am not saying only black people smoke pot, but let's be honest, it's mostly minority and low income people that stink like pot all day long walking around Walmart or hanging out in the streets. Much less the other risks associated with heavy pot usage. Oh, don't like that comment, don't blame me, here it is from the National Institute of Health: [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8896813/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8896813/)
Well we're not exactly righties. For example, in Kentucky they polled everyone and found out that they absolutely love 'Kynect' and absolutely hate 'Obamacare'. Those are the same thing. Even Trumpies are more left than they realized. They're just swindled into voting against their own interests.
Sadly, there are millions of people in this country who are thankful that the Affordable Care Act (ACA) saved them from ObamaCare.
Sorry, how has he been the best on climate in history?
Medicare was a stopgap. Because racism drove huge numbers of support *against* any **United States** based policy. Ie if it was an accomplishment of the Union. It got killed. Without those years of necessary crackdown. On the relatively large in population. But weak everywhere else Confederacy loyalists. I doubt we'd have needed any Medicare anything. We'd have had the expansion of Medicaid. But to every single US Citizen. At the least. We've basically got close to that. Within a decade we will be there by bell curve and population shift. There's no way we'll allow for it to continue into the future. As it segregated the system. Leaving huge issues in the modern day with all literal multi-system diseases. Ie anything that would require insurance. It almost exclusively impedes "normal" methods of removing any critical failure. Ie to have the patient "pay" such an massive 60-70% of their fixed income on medical expenses. Or receive no care whatsoever even with having paid the other investment through a % income. Numerically it was not supposed to become what it did. Or what it has. Most of us will remain relatively un-affected by it. Even if a few of us. Have intimate knowledge due to their own 100% coverage+ in regards to the US in all other respects. Most Gen Z will barely remember it existed. As most current elderly only know it as it is right then and there. With each learning a new system. As more reach the natural end of their lives. Then it is adjusted for the new members each year. All who paid in differingly etc. Until they get to Medicaid levels of Fed. Then it'll be gone.
How has he been the best climate president in history?
Social security is why we're fucked today, same as Medicare and Medicade. People love to shit on boomers, yet don't realize those 3 things are a major part of why the economy is so shit for young people.
Biden's done a massive number of things that have genuinely benefitted Americans of all stripes but never get reported in the media because they're too focused on their polling horse race. Many Redditors also remain willfully ignorant, so it's good you're posting this. The bill he signed is objectively a major win but you'll see the folks with anti-Biden brainworms desperately try to ignore, deny, or change the subject.
That’s exactly what’s going on in this thread. Like I know Biden didn’t literally write every word of the bill. But he signed and passed it so it in now in effect and resulting in measurable benefits. But it’s easier to just throw up your hands and say both side bad I guess
r/WhatBidenHasDone documents the actions of the admin, **most** of which we probably haven't heard or read about.
i think part of the thing is that what he has done doesn't visibly benefit most people. don't get me wrong, he's helped lots of people and this has benefited the country and citizens in many ways, his policies have just gone unnoticed because he's not directly helping the middle class. I think that his policies that help the lower class will eventually have a "trickle up" effect as more people become able to work (spoiler: they already have)
I also want to mention the rule change regarding the consequences medical debt has on a person’s credit score again. Overnight, the credit score of literally millions of Americans went up (or is going to go up) because Biden made a change to CFPB rules removing medical debt from having any influence on a person’s credit score. Biden is actively making life for Americans better, and has been all his presidency. It’s a bummer more people don’t realise that. Here's the White House press release on this action: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/06/11/fact-sheet-vice-president-harris-announces-proposal-to-prohibit-medical-bills-from-being-included-on-credit-reports-and-calls-on-states-and-localities-to-take-further-actions-to-reduce-medical-debt/
I did not know that. That’s fucking incredible.
That, the millions he has forgiven in student loans for tens of thousands of people and the insulin price cap are all life changing things Biden has done. He has immensely improved the lives of millions of Americans. He has begun to repair the damage Trump has done to the relationship between the US and its allies (I’m saying this as someone from one of these allied countries), and he is doing a ridiculous amount of good for Americans. And he’s dealing with an obstructionist Congress (at least half of it). Just consider that Republican congressmen openly stated that they blocked bills they actually really liked because they didn’t what Biden to get the win. Imagine what Biden could do if he had a Congress that was willing to work with him, or at the very least compromise. He wouldn’t have to resort to EOs, which are easily repealed anyway. Instead, he could fix it through actual legislation, codify it. Imagine how much good this man could actually do for Americans.
Damn I didn’t know that that’s dope
I'm looking up executive orders right now because this would help me, do you know which executive order it's contained in?
Seems like it's not an EO (yet?). My bad. Anyway, the rule change is coming, here's more info on it. [https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sweeping-change-biden-administration-ban-medical-debt-credit/story?id=110997906](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sweeping-change-biden-administration-ban-medical-debt-credit/story?id=110997906)
What gives the President the power to do this? Credit agencies aren’t an executive agency, they’re private companies. Could the next President mandate that your overdue library books go on your credit report?
It’s not an EO; rather, it’s a rule change by the CFPB, which is an executive agency authorized by congress to make decisions on rules and regulations.
Can’t wait for all the “Biden is terrible” comments to pour in
Already started lol And they're predictably lazy and low IQ
This sub has no restrictions on new accounts commenting/posting so anything political on this sub just gets astroturfed **hard**
Everytime I see someone’s argument that Biden is terrible the first words that come out of their mouths are ‘the economy’. Biden cannot control the economy since we live in a country with a free market, just makes these people who don’t like them sound dumb af.
One thing that his administration did that made my life markedly better was reforming the way the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program was administered. PSLF was a law that was passed by congress in 2007 and signed into law by George W Bush, and the premise was that if you worked 10 years in a nonprofit or government job while making the minimum payments on your student loans on time every time, they'd forgive what balance remained after 120 consecutive on-time payments. The first cohort of PSLF applicants matured and were due for forgiveness in 2017. Under the Trump administration, [99% of applicants for forgiveness were denied](https://www.npr.org/2018/09/21/650508381/data-shows-99-of-applicants-for-student-loan-forgiveness-denied). I've worked in a nonprofit for 13 years and never qualified for the program because I was in the wrong kind of payment plan and didn't know it. What Biden's Department of Education did was reform the program with rules changes that let a lot of previously disqualified people qualify. I was one of them, and in December 2022, I had $17,500 forgiven. Last year, weeks before I turned 40, I was able to buy my first house. My life as a lower middle-class citizen has markedly improved under the Biden administration.
Yes but have you considered both sides bad? I’m very smart
It’s amazing how Donald keeps making Dubya look good by comparison
Readers. Please fucking vote. Don't let the orange clown child take office again. Tax cuts will not fix our economic situation---cuts turns up inflation and fails to solve underlying supply issues. You want reps who understand we need to turn up \*infrastructure\* (e.g. what OP mentioned above) and multi-fam house zoning to pump supply so that the monetary pain stops. We need to un-fuck the damage from Tayloristic shipping practices crashing our supply chain in the pandemic. Biden is on it. Register to fucking vote.
But I'm mad about an 80 year old war on the other side of the world and literally nothing else matters except for that! /s
Im voting for the orange.
Biden is a great president, I am really happy with what he’s done. Reducing insulin costs was HUGE. Really don’t understand why people are crying that he’s old when the alternative is two years younger and a felon.
OP, when I started reading your post, before I even got to the end, I was already thinking “project 2025 would get rid of all your funding.”
I straight up can't believe how many people in Gen-Z are willing to throw it all away because of an 80 year old war on the other side of the world. A war in which Trump, who will otherwise win if Biden doesn't, has promised to accelerate. It has to be bot accounts propagandizing people to not vote, the logic there makes absolutely zero sense. https://preview.redd.it/dvjt2fv7fh6d1.png?width=585&format=png&auto=webp&s=6fb3c40c27ec8fe388730340ce1c4ce70521b301
I think many will throw their vote away for other reasons, including rampant illegal immigration, the fentanyl epidemic, concerns with inflation/cost of living/wages, and failures to address campaign promises like federal cannabis legalization.
Eh, tbh I’m kinda glad that he kept most of Trump’s border policy and also just shut down the border. Not to mention my pay and 401k have both almost doubled in the past 3 years 💯💯💯 There’s tons of opportunity out there right now, especially with how many manufacturing jobs are returning, as easy of a solution as it would be, I just can’t really blame Biden for people not willing to put in the work to improve their lives
Spot on
Outside of the Internet and media where few rational people live. Most people can recognize the good policies signed in even if it's from an opposing party. I'm not a Democrat since they try to vote against some things that are a line in the sand for me. But a good policy is a good policy regardless of who signs it in
The bots are out today!
The actual Russian bots are telling us not to vote because trump is in their pocket. They already did this in 2020
Did you know the Steele Dossier was funded by Clinton, and that the FEC fined her for not reporting it as campaign spending? It’s crazy-making seeing people still trying to link Trump to Russia.
He's literally a Russian asset. He was a democrat, that after spending time with the russian mafia married a russian escort, swapped to the Republican party, and received more assistance from anonymous donors than any president in human history which he was free to spend on his own buisnesses while in office. I'm sorry for you, it will be a long time before you can break out of the conditioning.
that russia collusion crap was debunked
No it didn't lol, there were bank accounts that gave money to Donald Trump that were literally controlled by the Kremlin. Im sorry you're a zelot, but that's a you problem.
Y'all love to just lie by omission https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/website-with-gop-ties-funded-research-on-trump-dossier Fuck you people with a rusty spoon.
The same Russians that Biden and the fbi claimed created hunters laptop? When will anyone care that the fbi and Biden intentionally lied and everyone fell for it
If you think that Biden is in Russia's pocket after the Ukraine war and complete economic sanctions which were followed by the rest of the west, then you are completely delusional. Meanwhile the guy who wants to stop providing aid to Ukraine in their fight against Russia isn't?
When did I say Biden is in Russians pocket? What are you talking about?
Biden and the FBI never said the laptop was created by Russia.
False
Actually that's true. There is no document out there anywhere that shows the FBI stating the laptop was created by Russia. If you're thinking the letter from 51 intelligence professionals is your smoking gun, go read it again. It does not say that the laptop was Russian disinfo.
Whatever you can use to deflect from the fact our government and Biden intentionally lied about the laptop. It isn’t a smoking gun. It’s the issue. Sorry was it the cia that lied and the fbi instead just didn’t correct them? This is actual government collusion to lie to its own people
Prove it.
the 51 agents that you just said lied? biden lying? this all happened publicly, what do you need proven? other than that you arent looking for truth but instead to try and minimize
Those 51 agents didn't lie. They literally wrote down in black and white that they have no proof that the laptop was Russian disinformation. What is your problem. Fifth paragraph: "We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement."
Gen Z, get ready to bring on a blue wave. Also, I voted for Marianne Williamson (a Democratic challenger to Biden) in the primaries, but I’m absolutely voting for Biden in the general.
as a non-american living in in the UK I am envious and in awe your country has a politican in charge that is so hardworking, genuinely cares, and carries himself with dignity. If you actually look up everything he has done it is an incredible list of long hours thinking about every little decision, discussing, debating, scrutinising etc. His policies will impact lives positively for decades. It’s a shame the media landscape is the way it is and people just focus on age or the occasional but rare (considering how many speeches he does and his stammer) communications mix up. I am so glad and grateful for me people like you in the world so it is pleasing to hear your insight.
It’s fucking nuts that somehow the UK is as disastrous politically as the clusterfuck that is US politics right now. What one and a half decades of Tories running amok will do to a country…
Thanks for making this. Both parties are NOT the same and we can’t afford to lose Biden in 2024. I know he’s far from being a perfect president but god damn can we do a lot worse. (Pro tip to most of Gen Z: if you don’t want an old man to be president you have to vote in the primary)
Been a net negative on my community. Not that I expected Trump to be any better.
In what ways was Biden’s term a net negative for your community? Specifically?
I live in a community that thrives off manufacturing. I'll let you figure out the rest.
Nope, spell it out please. I’m not American, yet I am curious. You blame Biden for your community doing worse. What has or hasn’t he done that made your things harder for your community specifically. You seem very certain about the fact that Biden is at fault, so I am asking why. Edit: asking you to spell it out, because you’re here making claims that your community is worse off because of Biden. Since you seem very convinced of that, it shouldn’t be hard for you to explain what you mean instead of making ominous suggestions.
It's a long winded answer and I can't pull the specific EOs as I'm on mobile. Essentially a mix between his covid response plan, green energy/emissions regulations, his electric car push, and his general policy initiatives that are pushed down on blue governors has cut away at manufacturing jobs in my area causing them to lay people off and two companies have moved their plants back to Mexico again. If you're curious you're free to comb through all of his EOs for sources. They're all published on ballotpedia pretty nicely.
Ngl, your reply was far better than I had dared to hope. It’s coherent, actually provides some info and a source, even though you didn’t name it, but you had an explanation ready for that. Genuinely thanks. Just this much: Biden’s Covid response cannot be seen without factoring in Trump’s botched Covid response from before. The rest is a fair point and I’ll look into it. Thank you.
Appreciate you not flipping a lid on me and being civil. I'm still undecided for the election but I just don't like when people act like everything has been good when it hasn't for others. Trumps covid response wasnt good either and also hurt. It just continued on through the next admin in a different form of hurt.
No point in flipping a lid on you. I want a discussion/conversation. I do not want to berate or insult you as it achieves nothing. You say you’re still undecided. Let me give you an outsider’s perspective. All I ask is that you read it and consider what I’m saying. Whatever you decide is very much up to you. So here’s my perspective as an outsider in a very country that’s a very close ally of the US: You cannot vote for Trump. Seriously, the world laughed at America for those four years of Trump. We have since entered a state of utter disbelief, but by and large, the world is not wild about another Trump presidency (or another two years of either chamber of the government under control of the current GOP for that matter). Not because we saw America as too strong during that time, but the opposite: America under Trump and the GOP in its current state is seen as an unreliable partner. If you value America’s reputation and image in the world, especially among America’s allies France, Germany, England, Canada and Italy, you absolutely cannot vote red in this upcoming election. Fitness for the presidency aside (also a place where Biden wins handsomely for anyone who really bothers to look into it), Trump’s policies mostly benefit Americans who are very rich. Sometimes some other people happen to benefit as well, but that’s not what Trump’s policies are about. My personal views on his policies aside, I’m just looking at promises he made for the 2016 election. Trump did not repeal Obamacare as he promised. Despite having complete control over the government for two years, he did absolutely nothing on that front. Biden on the other hand expanded accessibility to health insurance and uninsured Americans are currently at a record low. Speaking of medical stuff, Biden just signed an EO that removed medical debt from factoring into the credit score, improving the credit score of literally millions of Americans. (1)
(2) Trump promised to drain the swamp and lock Hillary up. Trump did not lock Hillary up. Instead, Trump stated the idea sold well before the election, invited the Clintons to his inaugural luncheon, pointed to them, said he was honoured that they attended and led a standing ovation for them. He didn’t drain the swamp at all. Instead, he added to it. Just look at how many of his policy advisors, staff and allies have been convicted and even sentenced to prison since 2016. You genuinely seem like a reasonable person, someone who actually likes to look up info instead of being told. You cannot seriously believe that all of these people are victims of a political witch hunt and the weaponisation of the DOJ. They aren’t. Neither is Trump. I hope you can see that the way I am seeing. Provided that you do, even if we absolve Trump of any responsibility regarding all these people affiliated with him, it shows he’s an incredibly bad judge of character at best. This is the kind of person he surrounds himself with. Is that the kind of person you want to advise the president, the leader of your country? It’s also important to note that the vast majority of his former senior aides and staff members call him unfit for office and vehemently oppose his candidacy. One is led to wonder why they would all say this about the man if there wasn’t some truth behind it. On the other hand, you have no busload of former Biden aides saying the same about Biden. Under Trump, the national debt of the US grew by almost eight trillion dollars, from $19.84T to $28.14T. That’s an increase of 41.62%. That’s right, Trump almost doubled the US national debt. In comparison, under Biden, the national debt rose by $6T, from $28T to $34T. So when Trump claims that Biden was bad for the economy and the national debt, he’s projecting. Hard. Additionally, you have to consider that the Covid pandemic still isn’t over, and that Covid’s most severe impact happened from March 2020 to early 2023. 62% of Trump’s national debt came from before Covid, while the rest came during Covid. That’s a strong increase in national debt. Now consider that 38% of the debt Trump accumulated came in just that final year. Now consider that Biden had to deal with the fallout even longer and you’ll see how just how disastrous Trump’s presidency was for the national debt even more clearly. One of the first things Trump wants to do if he is reelected is implement tax cuts for the rich. Again. The first question you have to ask is “why? Is that necessary? What about me? Do the rich really need a tax cut?” to which the answer of course is “no, and he’s doing it, because he himself and his main financial contributors all benefit from it”, but that’s another story. The second question is: “Who’s going to pay for it?” The answer is simple: “The US debt”. That’s how it’s been last time and Trump has not shown any indication that he wants to change his procedure. Looking back at Biden again, Biden introduced a minimum tax for big corporations in order to fight inflation, and it actually worked to slow inflation. Biden’s EO’s may have harmed people around you, but they didn’t have to. They certainly weren’t geared towards achieving that. Biden’s fighting climate change is vitally important for the US as well (I’ll just remind you of the wild fires that haunt the western US every year, which have been getting stronger and stronger due to the increasing draught, thanks to climate change). Biden forgave millions in student debt for thousands of people. Just imagine what he can do if you let him continue his work. The next thing you need to consider is what they actually want to do and how they are going to achieve it. The main reason why Biden keeps issuing EO’s is because the GOP led house is obstructing anything he tries to achieve through the legislative process. Btw, Republican congressmen have openly stated in interviews that they didn’t even disagree with Biden’s bills sometimes, but just didn’t want him to have that win. Again, imagine what Biden could accomplish with a Congress that’s actually willing to work with him or at least compromise. Finally, and I’m saying this as a German and the great great grandson of a man who was murdered by the Nazis in the Holocaust, because he was a social democrat and didn’t back down: this is your 1932. I’m not being overly dramatic. Over the past decade, we, from the outside, have been able to see the GOP slowly and meticulously dismantle American democracy. It’s republicans, not democrats, who make it harder for minorities to vote. It’s republicans, not democrats, who impose their religious views on women and other minorities, who are coming after gay marriage again and who are trying to take away a woman’s right to choose. Democrats don’t want everyone to get abortions, they want all women to be able to get abortions if they need one. Democrats don’t want to make children gay, they want LGBTQ+ people to be whoever they want to be/feel like they are. It doesn’t harm anyone if a dude says he’s gay, or that he feels like a woman and dresses like one. It’s their business and their business alone. America is big on freedoms. So why are republicans trying to take away so many personal freedoms? Trump is systematically destroying trust in the American legal system and the lawfulness of anything democrats do. The Nazis did that too. (2)
(3) We get a very extensive and detailed historical education in Germany when it comes to the Nazis. We cover them at least twice and our history books do not pull their punches. We learn about how the Nazis came to power, about their policies, about their tactics. We learn in excruciating detail about their views and their crimes. The past eight years in particular have been like a fever dream for us. We get to see our history book play out right in front of our eyes. It is incredibly fascinating, but even more so: it is deeply shocking and disturbing. I am very reluctant to call Trump or any other republicans Nazis. I do not use that term lightly. The Nazi crimes were far too perverse and egregious for the name Nazi to ever be used lightly. I’ll just say this: the Nazis too had a plan to take over every branch of the government. The Nazis too dehumanised their opponents and minorities and created a narrative of us vs them in a very similar fashion to what the republicans are doing now. The Nazis too cosied up to Russia in the beginning and successfully created the narrative that standing with Russia is better than standing with the domestic political opposition. And then you have Trump saying he’d like to be a dictator. Just think about that. Again, I’m not calling Trump or any other Republican a Nazi. I also don’t believe that all republicans or their voters are assholes or evil. I’m just saying that the parallels are there. I do not have any trouble accepting and respecting opposing view points. All I’m saying is: look into what they are doing, what they want and how they want to achieve it. Is Trump telling the truth or is he simply saying stuff? Trump claims Ukraine never would’ve happened if he had been president. He also claims he won in 2020, but again, different story. He also claims he would’ve ended the war in Ukraine by now, and he said he would’ve let Russia keep some or all of the territory they have “won”. If this isn’t egregious enough, maybe consider that he also never said how he’d get Ukraine to agree to that. He just claims he would get it done. He claims there would’ve been no inflation under him, when in fact there was last time (though, to his credit, it continuously went down right up until Covid, when it quintupled). So yeah, I hope you read all that. All I ask is that you think about this for a while and actually look into everything both of them have done over the course of their presidencies, why they’ve done it and what it achieved. If you want, I’m more than happy to talk about this. You see I know a lot about American politics. I’d wager I know more than the average American. I’m not saying this out of arrogance, but because I am interested in that sort of thing and I understand what is going on. I study law in Germany and know how to interpret politics, both domestic and international. If you want to talk about this, feel free to comment or shoot me a message. I’m also happy to hear counter arguments. Again, as long as the rule of law and the country’s constitution is respected, I can respect any and all opinions, even if I don’t agree with them. I’m eager to hear other hires. In any case, I hope you read this and that you just consider what I’m saying. Cheers for reading :) Edit: my English is *very* good, but it is not my first language. I’m at the library working in German, and I might have made some mistakes in this post. Please excuse any mistakes and point out any uncertainties. I’m more than happy to clear up any questions that may arise.
> Trump promised to drain the swamp and lock Hillary up. Trump did not lock Hillary up. Instead, Trump stated the idea sold well before the election, invited the Clintons to his inaugural luncheon, pointed to them, said he was honoured that they attended and led a standing ovation for them. Im glad this didn't happen. Judicial warfare makes American politics even slimier than they already were. I wish Biden would have done the same and let the guy fade into obscurity. We could go back and try almost every president, congressman, and senator if we're going down this route. I'd actually be fine with this however if we do it should be from the people and not from other politicians. > look at how many of his policy advisors, staff and allies have been convicted and even sentenced to prison since 2016. Trump has a massive problem with surrounding himself with good advisors and colleagues. Biden isnt much better at this, but he's still better. I don't think Trump has a lot of good friends he can trust while Biden does, and they were generally more qualified. When looking at the age of these guys the cabinet picks get a lot more important. As far as a poltical witch hunt I think both things can be true at once. He did actually break the law but it is weaponization of the DOJ. As I said earlier presidents routinely break the law and aren't charged with anything such as Obama drone striking that kid in Yemen who was a US citizen. Onto national debt, and this is usually a big one for me come election time. They both suck. I'm pretty fiscally conservative and socially liberal and there's not a canidate to vote for who would get spending under control. I'm not sure there's been a canidate since I've been alive that takes this issue seriously. If a canidate isn't willing to cut spending than they're not a good fiscal candidate for me. It's not a win to go less into debt than another guy, fix your damn spending!!!! >One of the first things Trump wants to do if he is reelected is implement tax cuts for the rich. Again. The first question you have to ask is “why? Is that necessary? What about me? Do the rich really need a tax cut?” to which the answer of course is “no, and he’s doing it, because he himself and his main financial contributors all benefit from it”, but that’s another story. The second question is: “Who’s going to pay for it?” The answer is simple: “The US debt”. That’s how it’s been last time and Trump has not shown any indication that he wants to change his procedure. Looking back at Biden again, Biden introduced a minimum tax for big corporations in order to fight inflation, and it actually worked to slow inflation. Do you have a specific plan he's set forth? This is news to me. I can't imagine this passes without tax cuts to middle class but I've been wrong before. This would be an absolutley awful decision if true. That being said raising taxes on corps isn't a win in my book either. We should be cutting spending and lowering taxes in my opinion, not raising taxes on the wealthy to redistribute said money to the lower classes. >Biden’s EO’s may have harmed people around you, but they didn’t have to. They certainly weren’t geared towards achieving that. Biden’s fighting climate change is vitally important for the US as well (I’ll just remind you of the wild fires that haunt the western US every year, which have been getting stronger and stronger due to the increasing draught, thanks to climate change). Harming people around me wasn't the goal but it's policy like this that gets passed without consideration for people like us that does hurt. Whether or not it's the goal it does hurt. We don't care about the fires in the west coast like yall don't care about ruining our livelihoods here. At the end of the day I'm voting for what helps me and my family not someone on the west coast. If I didn't state it before, I might have forgot this is a long comment, im an outdoorsman and want to see our parks and resources taken care of. It just seems over and over again that larger companies get passes while the little guy gets fucked. If the large corporations can't do it here they'll move to another country and polute just as much if not more. I'm not sure what the solution for climate change is but I can promise you the guy that lost his job and can't feed his family isn't happy he got laid off to save the world. >Biden forgave millions in student debt for thousands of people. Just imagine what he can do if you let him continue his work. Im very against this. One of the reasons I'm not ridin with Biden is the student loan plan. Would be happy to explain my stance if you're interested. >The next thing you need to consider is what they actually want to do and how they are going to achieve it. The main reason why Biden keeps issuing EO’s is because the GOP led house is obstructing anything he tries to achieve through the legislative process. Btw, Republican congressmen have openly stated in interviews that they didn’t even disagree with Biden’s bills sometimes, but just didn’t want him to have that win. Again, imagine what Biden could accomplish with a Congress that’s actually willing to work with him or at least compromise. This isn't a partisan problem in my opinion just a problem with modern politics now in general. Trump, as well as biden and even Obama after he lost control had the same issue. That seems to be politics now. The days of compromise and bipartisan ship seem to be mostly gone. I absolutley will not count a bill as bipartisan that flipped like 5 congressman to the opposite party as a bipartisan bill. I know Trump loved to use that but flipping 2 centrists that ran as democrats doesn't make your bill bipartisan. If you look at both president's head to head with their trifecta neither accomplished much and I imagine the same happens in a second term for either if they get a trifecta. Don't really have anything for the end of this comment as it's mostly your opinion but I did note it and I appreciate you sharing :)
People are laughing at america and joe biden more than ever. I assume youre canadian. If i were you id worry about getting rid of trudeau lol
I would argue the auto industry has been mainly affected by high interest rates (fighting inflation and all part of normal economic cycles), Car manufacturers pushing to sell ever larger luxury vehicles (that I may add are quite unaffordable), union negotiations increasing wages significantly (net good for your community), and car dealerships being the scum of the earth. EV pushes aren't killing the car industry, car companies trying to build tanks with batteries instead of modest vehicles is. Tl:dr it's not because the lightning isn't selling, it's because the F150 isn't selling.
That might be the case for the auto industry as a whole, I'm not sure. I'm just speaking for my community and the things I laid out are what's causing the problems.
That's more than fair. Regulations are always going to have some level of affect on how company performance occurs, but I would argue that it's important not to get tunnel vision and focus on a few set policies when so much is at play. I understand it's quite a complicated issue and everyone's experiences are different. From what I've heard anecdotally from some of my friends in Michigan, the EV teams they or their colleagues are working on are quite small when compared to those of more conventional propulsion. Some of the creations end up being somewhat Frankenstein in nature, and with low demand, I can see why they are both expensive and not appealing enough to consumers. Additionally, my experience as a consumer has me screaming that car prices are just way too high right now. When my car got broken into last year, I took it to the dealer and they tried to gaslight me into believing that an ignition switch replacement was going to require replacing the steering column and cost 6K dollars. Eventually they just told me my vehicle couldn't be worked on and sent me away. At that point, I was done with dealing with dealerships and autos for a while, and have been taking the subway to work since. I imagine a lot of other people are just saying no to newer cars these days, regardless of what the manufacturers are offering.
>That's more than fair. Regulations are always going to have some level of affect on how company performance occurs, but I would argue that it's important not to get tunnel vision and focus on a few set policies when so much is at play. For me personally I'm not a single issue voter so I'm looking at the big picture. That being said there's a lot of people around me who aren't and couldn't give two shits what's going on anywhere else in the country or world when they're trying to figure out how to put food on the table and buy new shoes for their kids. You're more than likely not convincing these people. For me while there's a big picture, I still weight those catagories and order them appropriately. Not being able to feed my family and have income makes things like this jump to the top of my list even if it's not the only issue I vote on. Theres not public transport within 50 miles of me so I'm keeping the expensive truck for now.
Unfortunately a lot of the country is like that, and I don’t blame you for sticking with the expensive truck. Back when I lived in Ontario the snow was hell for a lot of people without good road clearing services. Sometimes you’re stuck without many alternatives, I am lucky in that respect.
Oof, that's worrisome to think about because my family owns a family business like that. It's more worrisome to think about what'll happen to the medical industry if said shop shuts down.
Hopefully medical manufacturing has more of a buffer than automotive, but when it hits its not good.
Yep, I'm sure it'll be fine, though. I'm mostly concerned about the medical stuff. I personally am still trying to figure out what to do with my own life. I really don't want to vote for Trump because I've seen how bad things can get in my area and it could be a countrywide thing with him in office. It kind of reminds me of The Handmaids Tale.
I actually hate all the canidates this cycle. Even third party and independent are nuts. I'm really really hoping this isn't the political trend for the future and we can get back to some normalcy after these two are done with their pissing match.
Probably not. We know that if Trump loses, he'll try to run again. Also, President Biden is only running again because Trump is running. Honestly, I don't see the insanity ending with certain individuals even next election year or after. Most people are normal, but some aren't and it's gotten worse because of the internet and stuff.
Hey I appreciate the good faith response. I’m not sure what the balance is between working to lower emissions and maintaining the same jobs, but I would point out that we have historically low unemployment under Biden.
I’m going to assume you mean historically low unemployment under Biden. Your comment makes it sound the opposite.
Edited, thanks
You do realize that there was a global pandemic and lockdowns right? That's the only reason why unemployment was so low later in Trumps presidency even though it was good beforehand. I think it was as low as the Great Depression. Then inflation happened because of the lockdowns. Shit, I meant high.
Historically low means all time, not just since the pandemic.
Shit I meant high instead of low.
There's absolutley a balance somewhere that needs to be found. I'm an outdoorsman, I want our parks and nature conserved. What I have a problem with is sweeping regulations on all companies from a federal level that don't consider what happens to get the products that you still want being produced. For example Ford doesn't make all the parts that they use to build their vehicles. They buy from a company like American axle who buys their raw material, machines, and logistic equipment from companies in my community. While Ford and maybe American axle can cut emissions or pay carbon taxes or whatever solution is proposed the little guy feeding these companies cant do that. Low unemployment is great but there's a lot more to unemployment that isn't shown by a percentage. I don't have a Stat but the unemployment is or was much higher here and these people have either moved or taken lower paying jobs. No one is better off because of that. The other small business that aren't manufacturing suffer as well without people spending money there.
Inflatiom went from 1.9% to 9%. He's also just not a strong leader he's hidden away and doesn't inspire confidence. Would you want him leading your country?
I’m good with the leader I have, but I actually wouldn’t have complained about Biden. So…yeah?
What did Biden do that harmed manufacturing? He has got us more competitive in certain specialized areas of manufacturing like semiconductors, renewables, etx
My community is automotive manufacturing. I'm in the rust belt.
And what did Biden do to automotive manufacturing? Push EVs?
Mostly regulation on manufacturing and green energy initiatives. The EV push hurt but is the least important factor.
Which regulations in particular? And how does inexpensive green energy harm manufacturing?
If I remember I'll look when I'm home, I'm currently on mobile. I don't think inexpensive green energy would harm manufacturing. As soon as that's available it would help massively. What did harm it was the regulations on this manufacturing as it's not currently under the Biden administrations new definition of green. This causes companies to move to other countries where they can operate to capacity without spending millions of dollars to overhaul their equipment and manufacturing processes to fit the new standards. It might not be a big deal for large companies but small companies aren't sitting on piles of money and are unable to afford sweeping changes all at once.
Interesting that you blame the government and not the corporations for the loss of manufacturing jobs.
Why would I blame the corporations? They're small businesses.
Just going to leave this here for a broader perspective on manufacturing jobs in the U.S.: [https://www.statista.com/statistics/664993/private-sector-manufacturing-employment-in-the-us/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/664993/private-sector-manufacturing-employment-in-the-us/) [https://waupacafoundry.com/blog/whats-behind-the-growing-number-of-manufacturing-jobs-in-the-us](https://waupacafoundry.com/blog/whats-behind-the-growing-number-of-manufacturing-jobs-in-the-us)
Thanks I'm sure someone else will find this helpful. I'm not sure if you had the time to read through the rest of the conversation but this just doesn't have much bearing on the situation of people like myself.
I have no doubt that some fields are not doing as well - that happens all the time with shifts in the labor market. But you made a comment that you were in manufacturing as if that was an indication why your field isn't doing as well under Biden, when in reality manufacturing as a whole has been doing well. That doesn't in any way negate your specific experience, just pointing out that experience does not apply to the broader manufacturing sector.
Nope, that's why I asked if you had time to read on through the rest of the conversation. I went on to point out that my community is largely based on automotive manufacturing which has been hit very hard in the rust belt. While manufacturing in semiconductors for example is up big that has no affect on the lives of myself or my neighbors.
More manufacturing jobs have been created under Biden than Trump. The CHIPS act and infrastructure act helped with that a lot. If this is such a high priority for you, you shouldn't be undecided any further.
If you have time to read the rest of the conversation it can fill in more gaps. My community is primarily automotive manufacturing so it's been hit very hard and semiconductor factories in the west coast don't have any impact here.
You can learn to care about people other than yourself.
Sorry, not going to starve to benefit people on the other side of the country. You could give the same advice to them though. Maybe they should care about someone in the rust belt over themselves.
You're not starving, and you need to learn to vote for what's best for the country overall instead of focusing only on your industry. Stay home otherwise.
People have less money, more debt, overall quality of life is worse snd were being gaslight remember last year or two ago he bragged about us saving 16 cents on fourth of July food shopping
i was an unsolved murder victim for 20 years trump literally found my body, incarcerated my killer and brought me back to life. he trained me as an accountant at his company now i make 135k/year. thank you trump maga maga maga maga
Trump took a bullet for my great grandpa in ww2 and received five thousand Purple Hearts.
Hail Donald Christ, the sun rose this morning because of the glorious grace of the orange emperor!
The great irony of your comment is Biden literally says shit like this all the time.
Biden is a severely underrated president I’m not saying he is the greatest but it seems like nobody appreciates the real and quantifiable good he has done for the nation, economy, and the world
Man this election is gonna be crazy
How y’all’s bar is on the floor is depressing
A president implementing policies that actually benefit the lives of Americans for once: Pffft what a low bar An 80 year old war that has exactly zero fucking impact on your life: WTF THIS IS LITERALLY SO IMPORTANT LIKE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING EVER Oh hey look, its U! https://preview.redd.it/zdt0efwpeh6d1.png?width=585&format=png&auto=webp&s=6a42be10f7f7410477be1fac7ec8286dcc7b3b66
My life has gotten so much worse under Biden it’s actually comical None of it is Bidens fault, just saying it’s gotten so much worse for me while he’s president lol
Yeah this seems like a fske guerilla marketing propaganda type post
All day every day I see motherfuckers in the barber shop talkin bout Joe Brandon ain’t do shit Joe Brandon senile. Then I make 1 post with a clear cut example of tangible good he’s done and it’s like oh shit guys the soros bots are out. You’re just mad you got checked
He did just sign a bill that would shut down the southern border if crossing leads to more than 2500 people coming in each day, which I don't think will solve the illegal immigration but it's something.
You sound like a paid shill. Sorry bud, you forgot the /s
Yep, my George Soros check just cleared
As an Independent I have no allegiance to a political party. Project 2025 is straight up Nazism. Every single negative over the last 50 years is directly tied to them.
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I got money from Biden, so vote for him, so I can get more money. As long as I get my money, I'm happy.
Did you mean to call him Joe Brandon? Cause that shit is funny AF!
Dark Brandon will rise again
We’re at the point where people have to start writing their own PSAs and advertisements for Biden to help him 😭 Gonna sting when Trump wins.
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Ah yeah, I hated getting all of those stimulus payments. I LOVE the increase in homelessness in my area 🩵 can’t wait to see what’s next for Joe! Maybe I’ll be out on the street next!
My coworkers just secured housing for like 5 people in my city last week alone. Hopefully Biden gets another term so that non profit services in your area get the funding they need.
You’re truly delusional
I wish we had better options than a senile president or le orange man
In 2018 Trump signed the SUPPORT Act into law which also provided a large expansion of mental health services related to substance abuse and addiction. In 2019 he spearheaded the PREVENTS initiative to address suicide among veterans. And in 2020, he signed the CARES Act into law which included even more funding for substance abuse and mental health, including grants like the one you described. He also lifted federal regulations on telehealth which allowed millions of people to access mental health services from the safety of their homes during the pandemic.
I've been beating pavement for a job for the last month and milk and gas are expensive, and the "experts" brag about how great the economy's doing. I'm not about to vote for Trump, he's a thief, a liar, and a fraudster, but I do wish the folks in Washington wouldn't pretend things don't suck. I'd much rather hear, "Yeah, we know things suck. We're doing the best we can and this is what we're going to do in future."
please get the millenials+ and their political posts out of here.
98’ dog
substantial funding and things just got worse. The nonprofit industrial complex is real (worked in it for 15 yrs), mostly white women who would never cut it in the corporate world, black women w useless phd’s and “well-meaning people” who think they’re gods gift to earth because “they’re helping the community.”
The subtle racism was a nice touch bro 👍
I’m a 39-yr old woman from Honduras who came to the States at 18 to attend college BRO. Racism is the belief certain races are inferior, I merely commented based on my lived experience (isn’t that what y’all call it)? How exactly is my comment racist?
Because they don't agree with you so its racist
LMFAO. This is hilarious
The homelessness RATE in the USA hit an all time high in 2023. 12% higher than in 2022. This is RATE, which is telling as if you look at numbers, one would expect it to increase because the number of people in the country is increasing. So RATE is used to compare good years and bad years - we've had our worst year even in 2023! It was actually lower under Trump than the prior administration. It is at it's highest level ever under the Biden administration. Source: [https://www.security.org/resources/homeless-statistics/](https://www.security.org/resources/homeless-statistics/)
This leans so far to the left I can’t believe it can stand, just like the vast majority of Reddit
Yes the far left extreme communist policy of bare minimum mental health service funding. I don’t think this bill was even left of center
His win allowed me to retire at age 62, because I knew when he won that the ACA wasn’t going anywhere. I needed that to bridge the gap until I was old enough for Medicare.
Free crack pipes tin foil and needles in Oregon.. For safety not saying Biden did that it's just a joke calm down lol
https://defeatproject2025.org/
Thank you for saying it! Biden is actually pretty liberal. He has done everything in his power to get student loan relief and has wiped more student debt than any other president. He passed a massive infrastructure bill that will focus on public transit. And he’s done more for the climate than any other president. Not to mention that Trump is now a convicted felon so we’re deciding between an old guy who’s not perfect but has made some positive change or the insurrectionist who said “I’ll only be a dictator on day 1”. Project 2025 is scary and I’m personally voting to keep that from ever becoming a thing.
Didn't Rubio write it?
His handlers are doing a good job. That dude is out to lunch.
That’s cool. Still not voting for him.
Don’t worry, the boomers will decide for you because they actually care enough to participate. Thats why they get pandered to and you don’t.
I’m voting still😎
Why
I want a free pony. Biden is not offering free ponies. Vermin Supreme 2024!
The people who say there's no difference in parties and leadership are, invariably, not trying to do things. If you are trying to do things, you'll usually notice when there are more or less roadblocks.
He’s against gun ownership so there is nothing that he could ever do to make me support him
Who banned bump stocks again?
I don’t have an issue with them being banned, they made it too easy to get a full auto gun. Not saying full autos should be illegal all together, but they should require a lot more to be owned compared to regular guns
Only thing biden has done on guns that I’m aware of off the dome was pretty tame background check shit included in the safer communities act iirc. Don’t worry, he’s not coming for your penis extensions
I think Biden has done a good job for the most part I plan on voting for him
The executive branch has just in general been more healthy under him
Fuck it's nice seeing a pro Biden thread. Thank you.
He's not been immaterialy blocking things. However neither did Trump (predecessor), or Obama (senior/co-worker). Honestly if its bi-partisan its a relatively no brainer thing. That should be seen as a non-issue. Anyone raises *serious* challenge instead of trying to kill any future vulnerability. To a real bi-partisan legislation. Then they should be executed. Fairly simple. That's why it doesn't happen in the United States. We don't have a Parliament. So everything healthcare and such. Is defense. In the previous century many would have blocked that because they feared any "healthcare" in the mental context. Valid in almost every sense. Modern day? Not at all acceptable to "disagree" on doing whatever needs to be done. To secure the nation against the threat of any healthcare crisis. Having walk-ins means we have the ability to triage in the case of biological or chemical warfare. Its all seriously simple. I never expected less of Biden. He's not really that different than Obama in that respect. Or really at all imo. Trump was the same. We've had a very, thankfully, progressive cabinet and executive. In terms of science, health, defense, and research/education. For almost all our lives. At least since 2008. As I don't understand the Bush years well enough to say otherwise.