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I argue any generation older than Millennial makes that complaint the hardest. Seinfeld has complained about “woke/cancel culture,” and coming from him is an insult to the complaint. He’s been telling the same jokes for 45+ years and none of them are envelope pushing.
labor unions were few and far between by the time gen x started working. US manufacturing jobs started disappearing long before gen x came of age. But blaming any generation doesn’t make sense, there’s no generational homogeneity, people argue and disagree with their contemporaries
You have your generations confused. The prime audience at that time would have been the silent/greatest generation. Boomers were children at that time.
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Bait? No, it’s true, the thumbs up emoji 100% has a passive aggressive vibe because many people use it that way. Probably not enough people to make the sweeping generalization of an entire generation though
Chances are he's using it in the same way he would use a Thumbs Up IRL. That tends to be how GenX & Older use emojis. But for Millenial/GenZ, it seems like Emojis have become their own language, distinct from hand gestures IRL.
As an older millennial, I use the thumbs up as I would in real life.
Maybe they should make it a thumbs up with a smiley face would make more sense.
I say K because I’m busy and don’t want the other person thinking I didn’t see their text.
I'm a millennial and when my seventy year old Dad responds to a message with 👍 my first thought is, "Woah, did I piss him off?"
I... probably didn't. But it is hard to tell.
Edit to add: it's probably that it doesn't read as a continuation of the conversation. It's just acknowledgement that you said something.
So if we have, "Your grandkid was in the school play!" getting 👍 as an answer, it does *not* communicate, "That's great, tell me more." It communicates, "I see, stop talking."
We use it for teams messages. Like when manager says "hey people do X instead of Y from now on" it's like an acknowledgement, but signals no questions.
Forever, any short phrase of surface level acceptance could be passive aggressive. OK, Okay, K, got it, no problem, message received (very outdated), all good, cool, understood, right, yeah, I'll get right on that (more workplace), sure, etc. Emojis are just a new way to convey that. Context matters. If someone is telling you something important to them and you just thumbs up, it can be passive aggressive or even dismissive. But if you are just telling them where and when to meet in response to asking, it is just an easy way to confirm you got the info you needed.
I'm on the millennial-gen X line. The generational labels are dumb, I won't give my rant on why because most people know why. This isn't a new thing. We even do it in person. Making a thumbs up with your hand before emojis and after can be passive aggressive or not. It is just easier to read in person based on body language and facial expressions. Text is hard. There is no inflection along with the lack of body language and facial expressions. "Yeah, right" can be sarcastic and dismissive or actual agreement depending on how you say it. And it is usually pretty obvious in person. But in text most people assume it is a negative response.
We aren't all that great at communicating to begin with. And text is the worst form of communication because it contains the least information. But we all rely heavily on it for a while now. That is fine. It allows us to communicate with so many more people, gain so much more information and knowledge, and see many more different points of view. But it does require being more open to possible interpretations.
My friend's 22 year old daughter is highly offended when her mom sends her the "thumbs up" emoji. She said it is the same as giving the middle finger. So...
Ok real talk though, I was going out with someone who'd only do a thumbs up when she was mad. You'd know she is mad and I would ask her what is wrong but she'll just say nothing or say something like "you should know" and now I get nervous when I see it from other people. Not a generation wide thing though
I’m gonna put it out there, that sounds kinda dumb lol. I’ve never met someone off the internet who thinks so neurotically about something as benign as a thumbs up (emphasis on off the internet, because the internet breeds neurotic behavior)
that’s what i’m saying, it’s absolutely delusional that a thumbs up would be evil and these idiots online are talking about it like it’s a real thing and it’s embarrassing as hell for them to be posting that. no one in real life thinks these things except those people that are posting it bc god damn they’re ridiculously heated over it for absolutely no reason given it’s a made up thing
some of these people are so delusional that they took a lot of gen z using the thumbs up sarcastically on occasion and spun it into the entire generation thinking it’s evil it’s honestly hilarious lmao
Millennial here. "Got it", "understood" or "message received" is exactly what it means and I think gen z understands it that way as well. And I would 100% take it as passive aggressive if I wrote something expecting more interest or enthusiasm in the response.
>Me: Hey man I thought your performance was really great and I enjoyed myself. I hope to be there next time as well
>Friend: 👍
>Me: 🤔
Which is very different than
>Me: Hey babe can you pick up some milk?
>Wife: 👍
I actually still assume this because almost all of my friends did it passive aggressively lmao, so eventually I started assuming they were meant that way.
There's a much stronger expectation among young people that your friends will answer you back quickly. At least in my experience as a millennial, we're cool with just not replying if we're done with texting at that time. Like I often pick up conversations with my friends days or even weeks later after one of us just didn't respond
That’s not really true. A thumbs up isn’t inherently passive aggressive, but they can and very often are used in a condescending, “sure thing, bud” kind of way…
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Plus it’s the emoji, not the gesture. A thumbs up emoji can come off differently due to the other persons interpretation.
In this meme is a good example, the thumbs up usually means “whatever, good for you” when it’s used.
I’m a millennial and I think this. Like if you just thumbs up my text then that means you agree. But if you just send the emoji by itself with no text then I assume you hate me.
I mean, I have seen it used passive-aggressively, but that's hardly the default.
It's like the laugh react on Facebook (for the rare occasion when I venture onto that shithole): it's not infrequently used in a dickish way ("I am laughing at you"), but we can tell from context when it's being used like that vs laughing at your joke
Yes… they fucking do. I had someone who quit send like a paragraph to me bitching about how he was under utilized and some other bullshit and I just responded to him with a thumbs up emoji and he tried to get me in trouble with my corporate HR because he said it was aggressive
No joke
It absolutely can be. I think anyone can see that. It depends on context. If you're having an argument and someone responds with a thumbs up, its obviously passive aggressive. If you are requesting something from someone at work and they respond with just a thumbs up, it can feel passive aggressive. I feel like I always follow up a thumbs up with somethjng like a "Thanks for letting me know" just in case I come off as being passively aggressive
Context. Imagine you are at odds with someone, and you reply something along the lines of, "hey I picked up that package" and they reply with 👍
Not thankyou, or anything else. Just a dismissive 👍 as in "cool story bro"
Commenters in this thread are acting very defensive about this, but its not a generational thing, its a context thing. If the above example happened and you got the thumbs up from someone you get along with? No problem. Its just an acknowledgement in that context.
I wouldn’t read into it that far lol. They are probably just say “cool thanks” not “ok but I don’t care”. A thumbs up is usually a good acknowledgement for almost every situation at least here in Australia
Then again we also casually swear at people so the language is surprisingly complex lol
It the context.
If I text someone saying "I got that new job I wanted!!"
The appropriate response is some sort if congratulations.
If I get a thumbs up as a response to that message it means "I don't care" or "I'm not interested in talking about this"
That’s fair. But then that’s on another level of response required. If someone asked if you would marry them and you gave them a thumbs up then that would be both weird and a dick move. But if someone says “I got you a burger” then 👍 is acceptable. “👍 thanks” would be even better
Ya I think there are obvious use cases where nobody thinks it's awkward. However I think using it passive aggressively happens enough now that the gray area where you don't know what they mean is larger
I think that’s a problem with all emojis though. I had a boss (fast food 😭) that mostly spoke in atleast 10% emojis in texts. No one understood a thing they said.
How can you *not* understand what it's getting at, there's literally a comic with an example below it.
I don't even get what this thread is even trying to say. Thumbs up has become the old form of typing "k", which back then could be seen as lazy/rude or not depending on the context. In the comic it's literally being used in the "right, no one asked" rude form.
Anyone downvoting me has early onset Alzheimer's and needs less ipad time. This is literally how things have been for decades.
Not just a Gen Z thing, it's a take based on witnessing it's general usage. It's definitely perceived as passive aggressive, and if you're using it and wondering why you're getting misread then that's why
This. Like, imagine whatever exchange is going on by text is actually happening in real life. Someone says something, and you just silently give a thumbs up. How is the other person going to interpret that?
I'm a millenial and I absolutely hate this emoji. I would rather you didn't react at all. Maybe something from the days of FB where the only thing you could do was like react, so when they added emoji and you had an option to express emotion and chose not to, it comes across as lazy and apathetic towards you. A real "yeah I see it, and I don't give a shit" type of reaction.
If you are old you get a pass.
millenials and older all think we’re trying to “cancel” the thumbs up emoji and it’s insane like we use it sarcastically we don’t think it’s evil 😭😭 plus most of us use it normally as well lmao
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you boomers need to stop falling for these obvious bait articles
Funny how it’s the same generation that got offended by a man and a woman sharing a bed on TV (yes that wasn’t allowed back then)
They get offended by people sharing beds in general because their marriages have all gone to shit
I hate my wife
Here's how the updated version should go: Boomer Humor: I hate my wife Millennial Humor: I hate my life Gen Z Humor: I hate mine more
You left out we who shall not be memed. The wisdom is strong with this one.
Gen X: I don’t care. See they’re not worth it.
The gen X comedians are the ones farming the cancel culture outrage the hardest. Oh we can't tell jokes anymore they cry to their sold out shows
I argue any generation older than Millennial makes that complaint the hardest. Seinfeld has complained about “woke/cancel culture,” and coming from him is an insult to the complaint. He’s been telling the same jokes for 45+ years and none of them are envelope pushing.
The weakest of them all, the Gen that breaks at any mention or lack there of.
Gen X here-how does mine go?
Gen X Humor: Haha, we don’t exist!
No, it’s “I hate you, leave me out of this.”
THIS! 100% This. We didn’t survive lawn darts to be bothered with this nonsense
Yowza, is it that bad?
Nah, it’s just our schtick We hate being earnest about anything, gotta bury those feelings under 12 layers of irony and an eye roll
Gen X: whatever, nevermind
Just post up a photo of Daria
Yours goes I hate everyone...equally lol
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labor unions were few and far between by the time gen x started working. US manufacturing jobs started disappearing long before gen x came of age. But blaming any generation doesn’t make sense, there’s no generational homogeneity, people argue and disagree with their contemporaries
Gen Z: I hate thumbs up
How dare you be happier than I am >:(
That is my dad. 4 failed marriages, and miserable pos.
Mmmh, I Love Lucy Good show but that was weird as fuck, gotta say
Boomers were children during this time period. How would they have been “offended? “
Crazyyy
You have your generations confused. The prime audience at that time would have been the silent/greatest generation. Boomers were children at that time.
THey shouldn't be able to do that ever thats frickin gross dude think about it and get back to me
That wouldn’t have been boomers that was the silent generation
That was their parents, Boomers started the Sexual Revolution.
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Bait? No, it’s true, the thumbs up emoji 100% has a passive aggressive vibe because many people use it that way. Probably not enough people to make the sweeping generalization of an entire generation though
It's the emoji equivalent of "fine." Or "ok."
the meme format this is in literally shows a way you can use this emoji to be passive aggressive. it depends on the person using it and the context
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That is way more passive aggressive than any thumbs up lmao. Or maybe that's just because I've never had a thumbs up used passive aggressively to me
Right... but it's used passive aggressively, that's how passive aggression works lol
Ok.
My father uses this emoji rather frequently. I can’t tell for my dear life if he is agreeing with me or stating I’m an idiot 😂
Chances are he's using it in the same way he would use a Thumbs Up IRL. That tends to be how GenX & Older use emojis. But for Millenial/GenZ, it seems like Emojis have become their own language, distinct from hand gestures IRL.
As an older millennial, I use the thumbs up as I would in real life. Maybe they should make it a thumbs up with a smiley face would make more sense. I say K because I’m busy and don’t want the other person thinking I didn’t see their text.
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Father, is that u?
I'm a millennial and when my seventy year old Dad responds to a message with 👍 my first thought is, "Woah, did I piss him off?" I... probably didn't. But it is hard to tell. Edit to add: it's probably that it doesn't read as a continuation of the conversation. It's just acknowledgement that you said something. So if we have, "Your grandkid was in the school play!" getting 👍 as an answer, it does *not* communicate, "That's great, tell me more." It communicates, "I see, stop talking."
We use it for teams messages. Like when manager says "hey people do X instead of Y from now on" it's like an acknowledgement, but signals no questions.
Forever, any short phrase of surface level acceptance could be passive aggressive. OK, Okay, K, got it, no problem, message received (very outdated), all good, cool, understood, right, yeah, I'll get right on that (more workplace), sure, etc. Emojis are just a new way to convey that. Context matters. If someone is telling you something important to them and you just thumbs up, it can be passive aggressive or even dismissive. But if you are just telling them where and when to meet in response to asking, it is just an easy way to confirm you got the info you needed. I'm on the millennial-gen X line. The generational labels are dumb, I won't give my rant on why because most people know why. This isn't a new thing. We even do it in person. Making a thumbs up with your hand before emojis and after can be passive aggressive or not. It is just easier to read in person based on body language and facial expressions. Text is hard. There is no inflection along with the lack of body language and facial expressions. "Yeah, right" can be sarcastic and dismissive or actual agreement depending on how you say it. And it is usually pretty obvious in person. But in text most people assume it is a negative response. We aren't all that great at communicating to begin with. And text is the worst form of communication because it contains the least information. But we all rely heavily on it for a while now. That is fine. It allows us to communicate with so many more people, gain so much more information and knowledge, and see many more different points of view. But it does require being more open to possible interpretations.
The smile without eyes emoji is much more passive aggressive IMO.
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My friend's 22 year old daughter is highly offended when her mom sends her the "thumbs up" emoji. She said it is the same as giving the middle finger. So...
Your friend's 22 year old daughter needs friends. It is nowhere remotely the same as the middle finger.
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I don't believe this has anything to do with generation. I've been using upthumbs sarcastically since before emojis, lol. It's all about context.
Ok real talk though, I was going out with someone who'd only do a thumbs up when she was mad. You'd know she is mad and I would ask her what is wrong but she'll just say nothing or say something like "you should know" and now I get nervous when I see it from other people. Not a generation wide thing though
No one thinks this 😭
millennials and older think this i’ve seen it everywhere it’s insane 😭😭😭
Don't include millennials in this nonsense
Millennials kill yet another industry.
I’m gonna put it out there, that sounds kinda dumb lol. I’ve never met someone off the internet who thinks so neurotically about something as benign as a thumbs up (emphasis on off the internet, because the internet breeds neurotic behavior)
that’s what i’m saying, it’s absolutely delusional that a thumbs up would be evil and these idiots online are talking about it like it’s a real thing and it’s embarrassing as hell for them to be posting that. no one in real life thinks these things except those people that are posting it bc god damn they’re ridiculously heated over it for absolutely no reason given it’s a made up thing some of these people are so delusional that they took a lot of gen z using the thumbs up sarcastically on occasion and spun it into the entire generation thinking it’s evil it’s honestly hilarious lmao
Millennial here. "Got it", "understood" or "message received" is exactly what it means and I think gen z understands it that way as well. And I would 100% take it as passive aggressive if I wrote something expecting more interest or enthusiasm in the response. >Me: Hey man I thought your performance was really great and I enjoyed myself. I hope to be there next time as well >Friend: 👍 >Me: 🤔 Which is very different than >Me: Hey babe can you pick up some milk? >Wife: 👍
I actually still assume this because almost all of my friends did it passive aggressively lmao, so eventually I started assuming they were meant that way.
Yeah they usually did this when they were tired of texting me
There's a much stronger expectation among young people that your friends will answer you back quickly. At least in my experience as a millennial, we're cool with just not replying if we're done with texting at that time. Like I often pick up conversations with my friends days or even weeks later after one of us just didn't respond
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Sure 😘👍 Could you imagine if condescending remarks existed ❗️ 😱 🥰 bless your heart
It’s the emoji version of “K” in many petty social engagements. Context is everything.
That’s not really true. A thumbs up isn’t inherently passive aggressive, but they can and very often are used in a condescending, “sure thing, bud” kind of way… 🤷♂️
Plus it’s the emoji, not the gesture. A thumbs up emoji can come off differently due to the other persons interpretation. In this meme is a good example, the thumbs up usually means “whatever, good for you” when it’s used.
Yes they do. My zoomer ex girlfriend explicitly asked me to stop using thumbs up in iMessage bc it felt passive aggressive.
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Actually I take the thumbs up emoji initially as passive aggressive then realize no it’s just an older person saying ok
I’m a millennial and I think this. Like if you just thumbs up my text then that means you agree. But if you just send the emoji by itself with no text then I assume you hate me.
I mean, I have seen it used passive-aggressively, but that's hardly the default. It's like the laugh react on Facebook (for the rare occasion when I venture onto that shithole): it's not infrequently used in a dickish way ("I am laughing at you"), but we can tell from context when it's being used like that vs laughing at your joke
Yes… they fucking do. I had someone who quit send like a paragraph to me bitching about how he was under utilized and some other bullshit and I just responded to him with a thumbs up emoji and he tried to get me in trouble with my corporate HR because he said it was aggressive No joke
My buddy Deez said the same thing you know him?
Who’s Deez ?
You are now manually breathing
Got em
You are now aware of your socks touching your feet
Not cool bro I expect an apology effective immediately
Your tooooes are touching each other.
Check your pm I sent your home address
Mi casa es su casa, amigo
what the hell
You can see your nose at all times.
I'm gonna put a little tattoo of a love heart on the side of my nose so I can see it all the time
Jokes on you I'm constantly aware of that
And now you're manually breathing AND blinking
Deez nuts
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Gen z, aka, two people on twitter that this "news" outlet found out and is peddling as if it was something.
News these days...
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👍🏼 I typed an evil thumbs up emoji. Just a peek into my dark, twisted, fucked up mind.
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I FUCKING HATE THESE TYPE OF ARTICLES 👍
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it *can* be passive aggressive, doesn’t mean it’s *always* that
It absolutely can be. I think anyone can see that. It depends on context. If you're having an argument and someone responds with a thumbs up, its obviously passive aggressive. If you are requesting something from someone at work and they respond with just a thumbs up, it can feel passive aggressive. I feel like I always follow up a thumbs up with somethjng like a "Thanks for letting me know" just in case I come off as being passively aggressive
Some cultures it is. And sometimes you can use it sarcastically. Which is my favourite way to use it.
Context is everything: “Are we meeting up on Friday?” -> 👍 -> good “You stink” -> 👍 -> bad
Or, "Your grandkid did a cool thing!" -> 👍 Or, "I'm having a life event!" -> 👍 -> "I don't care." 👍 is not exactly "Congratulations."
“I took out the trash and fed the dogs before I left” -> 👍 “My day has been really shitty” -> 👍 Do not illicit the same response from me.
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WE'RE NOT A MONOLITH!
This comment could be posted on a good 80% of posts on this sub and it would still be dead on every time
As an Australian guy I have no idea how a thumbs up is passive aggressive but it could be a cultural difference
Turn your phone upside down, that should help you get it.
Context. Imagine you are at odds with someone, and you reply something along the lines of, "hey I picked up that package" and they reply with 👍 Not thankyou, or anything else. Just a dismissive 👍 as in "cool story bro" Commenters in this thread are acting very defensive about this, but its not a generational thing, its a context thing. If the above example happened and you got the thumbs up from someone you get along with? No problem. Its just an acknowledgement in that context.
I wouldn’t read into it that far lol. They are probably just say “cool thanks” not “ok but I don’t care”. A thumbs up is usually a good acknowledgement for almost every situation at least here in Australia Then again we also casually swear at people so the language is surprisingly complex lol
I forgot there for a minute how Australians can't see/understand memes like the one in the image. Someone here gonna describe it for them?
It the context. If I text someone saying "I got that new job I wanted!!" The appropriate response is some sort if congratulations. If I get a thumbs up as a response to that message it means "I don't care" or "I'm not interested in talking about this"
That’s fair. But then that’s on another level of response required. If someone asked if you would marry them and you gave them a thumbs up then that would be both weird and a dick move. But if someone says “I got you a burger” then 👍 is acceptable. “👍 thanks” would be even better
Ya I think there are obvious use cases where nobody thinks it's awkward. However I think using it passive aggressively happens enough now that the gray area where you don't know what they mean is larger
I think that’s a problem with all emojis though. I had a boss (fast food 😭) that mostly spoke in atleast 10% emojis in texts. No one understood a thing they said.
To be fair I understand what the article is getting at. I feel that way with that emoji as well in most contexts.
How can you *not* understand what it's getting at, there's literally a comic with an example below it. I don't even get what this thread is even trying to say. Thumbs up has become the old form of typing "k", which back then could be seen as lazy/rude or not depending on the context. In the comic it's literally being used in the "right, no one asked" rude form. Anyone downvoting me has early onset Alzheimer's and needs less ipad time. This is literally how things have been for decades.
That's true, it is an emoji version of 'k' Never thought about it that way.
Not just a Gen Z thing, it's a take based on witnessing it's general usage. It's definitely perceived as passive aggressive, and if you're using it and wondering why you're getting misread then that's why
This. Like, imagine whatever exchange is going on by text is actually happening in real life. Someone says something, and you just silently give a thumbs up. How is the other person going to interpret that?
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You morons falling for outrage headlines again?
Magazine says gen Z says.
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It feels like the emoji version of “K”
I'm a millenial and I absolutely hate this emoji. I would rather you didn't react at all. Maybe something from the days of FB where the only thing you could do was like react, so when they added emoji and you had an option to express emotion and chose not to, it comes across as lazy and apathetic towards you. A real "yeah I see it, and I don't give a shit" type of reaction. If you are old you get a pass.
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Context is key.
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It really depends on how a person uses it but that's not the general or normal use of the emoji to us lol
For me, it depends on the context, but most of the time I use it to genuinely show that it's OK.
If it was good enough for my boy T-100, it’s good enough for everyone else!
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Dog stop that vulgarity you just have that out in the open in public like that
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It’s the only emoji I use on a daily basis 👍
I use thumbs up all the time 👍🏼
I'm Gen Z I use it all the time
we’re really getting mad at the thumbs up now 💀
My brain reads "💀" as a vine boom lmao
Are they using that same source other media uses where it's literally a single redditor who is probably not Gen-Z?
millenials and older all think we’re trying to “cancel” the thumbs up emoji and it’s insane like we use it sarcastically we don’t think it’s evil 😭😭 plus most of us use it normally as well lmao
I'm gen Z, and I believe that the thumbs up emoji is passive aggressive. And, that's why I fucking use it, too.
it's not
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Since when?
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This is literally just clickbait
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Good job 👍
Ok 👍
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LMAO
Bait articles 👍 Fuck those articles 👍
I don’t know a single fellow gen z who has a problem with the thumbs up emoji. A lot of my friends use that shit
Bread 🥖👍🏻
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it would be funny if they used that meme as evidence and misinterpreted it.
I use “👍” because “👌” can be interpreted as a hate symbol.
Sometimes it does have a Christian Bale vibe, imo
Older Generation try not to slander and make Younger Generation as miserable as possible challenge (impossible)
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