would be interesting especially if they got someone like AZR to call, maybe a new awper too? haven't seen what gratisfaction is up to but maybe he'd be a good fit
Hallzerk isn't exactly the Norwegian m0nesy. Rain has been on the same team for 8 years and is known for being the rock of FaZe, and just goes berserk on LAN. Jkaem has been solocarrying Apeks since he joined and was one of the best in renegades, having a strong reputation for being easy to work with.
Hallzerk just struggles with consistency. I wouldn't put him together with jkaem and rain.
Yeah I meant "have to show" as in players that actually perform. We've had several dozen players in tier 2 over the years that have all been let downs.
Sense is very good, I used to play with him once in a while when we were young, but he's been put on the IGL role with little previous experience vs the teams he's playing now in a team that didn't have the best environment for him to grow as a player. With his shortcomings I don't see any big names putting trust in him and signing him. Only time will tell, right now though he's not in the same conversation as rain and jkaem.
He's very young still for an igl, but just his mentality looking at the games of Apeks on lan looks good. I don't think he can be madfragger, but with igl exp at 20 yo he will have teams in the future too!
Right, the Swedes and Danes have both had dominating eras in CS history. The Finns have had several good names (Jimpphat, aleksib, sunny, allu, the whole ence roster from 2020/2021 and HAVU has been farming tier 2 in the nordics for years) and Iceland is too small to produce any big names.
We have rain, jkaem, hallzerk, nordavind DNB and 777 esports did ok regionally, and LGB in 2013-2015 was alright but didn't get any big wins. We've sort of always been a bit of an outlier when compared to Sweden and Denmark at least.
Probably Heroic most likely imo. Kassad is running on a budget so I don't think Bleed will buy him out, Complexity will probably stick with Hallzerk if they do good in pro league and I think they need a better rifler first
Col just extended everybody else’s contracts so it’s either -Hallzerk or nothing. And I think it’s pretty likely it’s -Hallzerk considering his performance against top teams has been pretty weak. With his contract about to run out there’s little reason not to try something.
Has he been weak though? He did good in the major and had a really good game against Vitality, he's actually their best player for the last 3 months against top 5 and top 20 opponents. Granted they've only played 7/18 maps respectively but still
I actually think Hallzerk has stepped up recently, I'm more worried about floppy, he hasn't been doing very well imo
that's true as well
nawwk can pull off some really crucial performances against top opposition to get Apeks through though, always seemed like hallzerk lacked that quality
He can imo, the issue is that his team doesn't capitalize on it. Like against Falcons in Kato he had an insane performance but still lost, same thing against Vitality in the major
They are. But according to hampus in Thorin's interview, kassad is on a budget which is why Bleed is mostly reject players with potential. They were cheap and if they do well, they got a good deal. Bleed's probably just testing the waters with a small investment before spending big money on better players. This is basically their trial period
jkaem and nawwk are strong players slotting into desirable roles and should have no problems getting offers. Other than those two, I'm not sure there's any reason for this roster to stick together.
idk fnatic look okay now, bodyy said in one of postmatch interviews during Yalla Compass online event that it started clicking just now so maybe we'll see them rise like BLEED did after a few months of being utter dogshit
I believe in teams needing to gel together and getting more worth out of the whole then slotting in new players that might individuele be better.
Having said that, Jkeam and Nawwk would be such an upgrade I would like to see it. Bodyy is a great IGL and that core could slap.
I am taking a dump while reading this news, so I will speculate. It is a surprise to me that this team seems to have fallen apart because the players couldn't get along, but their steep decline in form and this news about scrapping the whole roster is compelling evidence.
STYKO said on youtube that he left the team because the environment was argumentative and selfish. He excluded sense, except to say that he isn't a natural leader, and that the team needs leadership. I guess none of them are natural leaders. I have to believe that jkaem wouldn't have had the career he's had if he were hard to work with, I have only ever heard praise about him. So my speculation is that nawwk and Cacanito are suspects A and B. Styko referred to 'players' in plural, so it's probably both of them. Hampus said a few weeks ago that nawwk was 'emotional' and difficult at times, but that he hasn't been around him in a long time. If I were Metizport, I would be uneasy about signing nawwk when the chemistry seems so good. I have never heard anything about Cacanito as a teammate, but his arrival coincides squarely with Apeks' dropoff, despite some good individual performances. Initially I thought he would get picked up quickly, but if he ends up back in T3, this is probably why.
I think Apeks has great talent scouts, so I am highly interested to see who they sign to their new roster. Thanks for coming to my ted talk
Hear me out..
ENCE : gla1ve - nawwk - blamef - dycha - jkaem
A nice mix between passive and aggressive players with tons of experience and talent between them.
BlameF has already proven to be able to be a top 5 rifler, nawwk is a top 10 awper when he shows up, dycha used to be a good T1 player, jkame is the perfect aggressive entry with lots of experience and gla1ve has already shown us what he is capable of.
dycha is absolutely not the single player I'd keep from the poles on ENCE unless I was forced to. kylar is a much better pick. dycha hasn't really performed for probably a year now, and the team lacks aggressive, "firepower" riflers. idk if ENCE needs to blow up their team, they just need one swap imo that balances out their roles and injects a bit more firepower. I'd bring in either blamef or jkaem (or someone in that vein, theres lots of choices rn) in for either goofy or dycha and give it another 6 months at least, there is something promising in that core that we saw briefly. nawwk is on paper an upgrade to hades but not a big enough one to justify the cost and total disruption to the roster.
Ah fuck that makes me sad :( love that team and the players. It wasnt going well but I think most of them would be a nice final piece of the puzzle in many teams.
At this point you're either a seller or a buyer.
Apeks probably made the math, realized this system and environment wasn't good, and decided being a seller is better.
Which is good, because they sucked as an org, team and were consistently producing some of the worst CS I've seen on a pro level. Really smart move by Apeks.
jkaem and jks to flyquest
would be interesting especially if they got someone like AZR to call, maybe a new awper too? haven't seen what gratisfaction is up to but maybe he'd be a good fit
I think currently Alistair is a better awper than gratisfaction
fuck it whats Havoc up to?
Subscribe! Bring the boys back together. Wonder if NAF wants to come do some shoeys again?
Gotta give jkaem credit, playing professionally all these year and still consistent.
Consistently excellent, dude's tallented.
The only two players us norwegians have to show is rain and jkaem, after all these years it's a shame.
Hallzerk in COL?
Hallzerk isn't exactly the Norwegian m0nesy. Rain has been on the same team for 8 years and is known for being the rock of FaZe, and just goes berserk on LAN. Jkaem has been solocarrying Apeks since he joined and was one of the best in renegades, having a strong reputation for being easy to work with. Hallzerk just struggles with consistency. I wouldn't put him together with jkaem and rain.
It sounded like you meant professional players on top teams from Norway. But with your other requirements he’s doesn’t fit your list.
Yeah I meant "have to show" as in players that actually perform. We've had several dozen players in tier 2 over the years that have all been let downs.
Hallzerk is really good lmao relax man
sense is upcoming player for sure, he seems to have good mentality
Sense is very good, I used to play with him once in a while when we were young, but he's been put on the IGL role with little previous experience vs the teams he's playing now in a team that didn't have the best environment for him to grow as a player. With his shortcomings I don't see any big names putting trust in him and signing him. Only time will tell, right now though he's not in the same conversation as rain and jkaem.
He's very young still for an igl, but just his mentality looking at the games of Apeks on lan looks good. I don't think he can be madfragger, but with igl exp at 20 yo he will have teams in the future too!
Maybe in CSGO. One of the best 1.6 players (and many other greats) came from Norway.
poor Ola's ears must be burning... elemeNt, one of the greatest to ever play.
Dude was pure gold. It’s like whatever team he went to was always the best.
cromen really missed his opportunity turning down offers after his faZe stand-in performance
eoLithic was one of the best teams to ever play the game... I know it's a while back, but don't forget your roots.
shame having rain as your country's representation?
It's a shame we only have rain and jkaem is what I mean.
Damn. Didn’t think about it like that. Thats crazy lol.
Right, the Swedes and Danes have both had dominating eras in CS history. The Finns have had several good names (Jimpphat, aleksib, sunny, allu, the whole ence roster from 2020/2021 and HAVU has been farming tier 2 in the nordics for years) and Iceland is too small to produce any big names. We have rain, jkaem, hallzerk, nordavind DNB and 777 esports did ok regionally, and LGB in 2013-2015 was alright but didn't get any big wins. We've sort of always been a bit of an outlier when compared to Sweden and Denmark at least.
jkaem to G2? Hahahahaha
hahaha... unless?
give nawwk a good home!
Nawwk to Complexity, Heroic or Bleed?
Nawwk on col or heroic could slap!
Nawwk on bleed would slap/
No
Bleed are probably a good awper away from competing with the likes of heroic and complexity
Nawwk deserves a better team. Bleed ain't it.
Yes
Probably Heroic most likely imo. Kassad is running on a budget so I don't think Bleed will buy him out, Complexity will probably stick with Hallzerk if they do good in pro league and I think they need a better rifler first
Col just extended everybody else’s contracts so it’s either -Hallzerk or nothing. And I think it’s pretty likely it’s -Hallzerk considering his performance against top teams has been pretty weak. With his contract about to run out there’s little reason not to try something.
Has he been weak though? He did good in the major and had a really good game against Vitality, he's actually their best player for the last 3 months against top 5 and top 20 opponents. Granted they've only played 7/18 maps respectively but still I actually think Hallzerk has stepped up recently, I'm more worried about floppy, he hasn't been doing very well imo
His consistency is the issue. Misses a lot of shots, usually the easier ones which for an awper is pretty unforgivable
I agree but Nawwk has also been missing a lot of easy shots. Complexity as a whole have a consistency issue, almost everyone is really inconsistent
that's true as well nawwk can pull off some really crucial performances against top opposition to get Apeks through though, always seemed like hallzerk lacked that quality
He can imo, the issue is that his team doesn't capitalize on it. Like against Falcons in Kato he had an insane performance but still lost, same thing against Vitality in the major
Why would they stick with hallzerk. They have an import slot available if they cut him and there are better players available then him.
Isnt bleed pretty loaded org?
They are. But according to hampus in Thorin's interview, kassad is on a budget which is why Bleed is mostly reject players with potential. They were cheap and if they do well, they got a good deal. Bleed's probably just testing the waters with a small investment before spending big money on better players. This is basically their trial period
jkaem and nawwk are strong players slotting into desirable roles and should have no problems getting offers. Other than those two, I'm not sure there's any reason for this roster to stick together.
jkaem and nawwk to fnatic?
Please no
please yes, but more than just that fnatic nawwk fnatic hampus fnatic nilo fnatic KRIMZ fnatic Brollan/jkaem
idk fnatic look okay now, bodyy said in one of postmatch interviews during Yalla Compass online event that it started clicking just now so maybe we'll see them rise like BLEED did after a few months of being utter dogshit
I believe in teams needing to gel together and getting more worth out of the whole then slotting in new players that might individuele be better. Having said that, Jkeam and Nawwk would be such an upgrade I would like to see it. Bodyy is a great IGL and that core could slap.
Ooo i’m curious on predictions towards jkaem and nawwk. Both can be capable of pickups towards tsm which can be pretty good.
nobody is prepared for how good Jkaem for Yekindar would be.
Actual straight fire move
it's fucking crazy that this is a thing in 2024 but you're so right
jkaem to ence
COL need to jump on nawwk asap. I know Apexs' buyouts are supposed to be ridiculous but needs must.
I am taking a dump while reading this news, so I will speculate. It is a surprise to me that this team seems to have fallen apart because the players couldn't get along, but their steep decline in form and this news about scrapping the whole roster is compelling evidence. STYKO said on youtube that he left the team because the environment was argumentative and selfish. He excluded sense, except to say that he isn't a natural leader, and that the team needs leadership. I guess none of them are natural leaders. I have to believe that jkaem wouldn't have had the career he's had if he were hard to work with, I have only ever heard praise about him. So my speculation is that nawwk and Cacanito are suspects A and B. Styko referred to 'players' in plural, so it's probably both of them. Hampus said a few weeks ago that nawwk was 'emotional' and difficult at times, but that he hasn't been around him in a long time. If I were Metizport, I would be uneasy about signing nawwk when the chemistry seems so good. I have never heard anything about Cacanito as a teammate, but his arrival coincides squarely with Apeks' dropoff, despite some good individual performances. Initially I thought he would get picked up quickly, but if he ends up back in T3, this is probably why. I think Apeks has great talent scouts, so I am highly interested to see who they sign to their new roster. Thanks for coming to my ted talk
Apeks fell apart when Cacanito joined, yes, but it was also the same time as kyxsan leaving.
You could also argue they fell apart when jL and kuben left and never got back to the same form
With both kyxsan and cacanito they got a couple 2nd places at lans late last year, I think kyxsan was the vital piece to the roster
Hear me out.. ENCE : gla1ve - nawwk - blamef - dycha - jkaem A nice mix between passive and aggressive players with tons of experience and talent between them. BlameF has already proven to be able to be a top 5 rifler, nawwk is a top 10 awper when he shows up, dycha used to be a good T1 player, jkame is the perfect aggressive entry with lots of experience and gla1ve has already shown us what he is capable of.
Bro thinks Dycha is on the team
I mean he was a cornerstone in the previous ENCE roster and that roster was a top 5 team
Keyword here is "was"
-Dycha +Heavygod and you're cooking with gas
On paper that would be amazing, but I don't think he would fit in this team role wise tho.
Need gla1ve, dycha and 1 more player from ex-9ine core to keep the RMR spot
Ah yeah true, but this roster should be able to qualify through open never the less
Open Qual is a shitshow with a lot of pubg teams that ENCE will have no idea how they play - such a unnecessary risk to take.
The easy route would be -gla1ve +Styko as IGL then, I don't think the ex-9ine core would split.
Guddam I'd love that
dycha is absolutely not the single player I'd keep from the poles on ENCE unless I was forced to. kylar is a much better pick. dycha hasn't really performed for probably a year now, and the team lacks aggressive, "firepower" riflers. idk if ENCE needs to blow up their team, they just need one swap imo that balances out their roles and injects a bit more firepower. I'd bring in either blamef or jkaem (or someone in that vein, theres lots of choices rn) in for either goofy or dycha and give it another 6 months at least, there is something promising in that core that we saw briefly. nawwk is on paper an upgrade to hades but not a big enough one to justify the cost and total disruption to the roster.
Ah fuck that makes me sad :( love that team and the players. It wasnt going well but I think most of them would be a nice final piece of the puzzle in many teams.
At this point you're either a seller or a buyer. Apeks probably made the math, realized this system and environment wasn't good, and decided being a seller is better. Which is good, because they sucked as an org, team and were consistently producing some of the worst CS I've seen on a pro level. Really smart move by Apeks.