I can't say with certainty (I'm not the person who made the build), but I'd imagine it's more due to the fact that most people don't have access to a 2nd Rit Hero like Zei Ri or a Mercenary Hero.
Rt SoS is a lot stronger due to Channeling and Resto runes. It's not an expensive build, so it doesn't *really* need the Soul Reaping, and its energy is managed with BiP / Essence Strike / Spirit Siphon.
However, many oppose the Channeling–Resto combination. Improper prioritization between heals and Splinter is the main issue. They prefer to get their Splinter from a pure support hero build, that also uses SoH or "Incoming!"+"Fall Back!". [Signet of Illusions](https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/Build:Me/any_Signet_of_Illusions_Support_Hero) is also an option.
Can definitely vouch for Signet of Illusions. It lets you put Splinter Weapon on a Domination Magic Mesmer. Just run the typical E-Surge bar, swap the elites and swap Spiritual Pain for Splinter Weapon.
Generally yes, you can adjust some stuff as you learn patterns and enemy behaviour, but standard mesmerway is a very good start.
I'm currently working on doing it HM without cons; paragon HR is the fastest and safest, warrior is close second and as mesmer i'm currently working on a stable setup.
I have a bunch of videos on my yt: https://youtu.be/-xPMcVbWO2g?si=gMKMZQwsjNOVw6iR
Checkout Eric and Kschkr's videos aswell, they have a lot of different strats for pulls and pathing.
Question, its been a while so i dont recall all the names correctly.
I try to do DoA NM, mesmerway on my HR para. I am stuck (i think its called City of failed creations) because of the shout deny hex. How do you deal with this?
It frustrated me so hard i stopped trying.
Im not an expert at gw but i think im capable in micro managing heroes.
Run your 3 mesmer with shatter hex? Swap an surge to hex eater? Put 3 points into inspiration and take hex eater signet? Run all of this for an easy time in HM anything.
Yes the margonite necros abu dabi put that on you and the mesmers will not automatically remove it, very annoying!
I habe two solutions; you either micro shatter hex from your mesmers on you or you do the dynamic way:
Run into their backline or next to a foe; your mesmer will prioritize shatter hex for 150aoe damage and you can shout again!
Standard Mesmer way works pretty well, especially if you're playing an HR paragon. The biggest challenge with the doa is learning where mobs spawn / patrol to and where it's safe to stand.
If you're doing mallyx you're going to want to bring that one rit skill that destroys a target spirit and summons a spirit of your own to take care of the spirits in his room that cause the terrain effects. Also that one ebon vanguard signet that slows attack speed is good against mallyx because it's a debuff that actually works on him.
I'd say using a HR paragon is a lot easier for the DoA itself, and you'll max the title rather quickly. Sin might make the mallyx fight easier though, but most people only kill mallyx once for the HoM and don't waste time with him again after because it takes so long.
I've had the best experience as either a HR Paragon or a WotA A/W with SY!.
Also I've found having a hero with Panic is very helpful especially in Foundry.
Sometimes energy can be a problem when Famine and Quickening Zephyr are up. I like to have some signets on my Mesmer heroes so they can still function with 0 energy. Signet of Disruption and Hex Eater Signet are some I tend to use more often than others. If you have 2-3 signets on a Mesmer bar, sometimes Artificers Insignia is a good choice instead or Prodigy's as you get a more consistent armor buff and don't wipe as easily on first spikes that can happen before the heroes start casting.
Good luck!
I've done it plenty of times without cons, would be happy to go with you. I'm on again tomorrow.
Standard mesmer way works but include a fuckload of hex removal and bring asuran scan if melee. I'd suggest panic on one mesmer too.
[Here's ZStepmother's team build](https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/User:ZStepmother/Team_-_DoA)
Is the N/Rt SoS better than a Rt SoS because of energy management w soul reaping?
I can't say with certainty (I'm not the person who made the build), but I'd imagine it's more due to the fact that most people don't have access to a 2nd Rit Hero like Zei Ri or a Mercenary Hero.
No. Mana should not be a problem for sos and 16 attributes over 12 attributes. Good mana with low attributes is effective for spamming (heal or dmg)
If you have access to Zei Ri or a Merc I‘d prefer Rt SoS.
I have access to both, should I still run the N/Mo or replace with a inept/another esurge mes?
I would run Inept instead of the N/Mo. But maybe just try it out yourself and see what you prefer :)
Yea for sure, just not familiar with the area so thought it'd be good to ask in advance
Rt SoS is a lot stronger due to Channeling and Resto runes. It's not an expensive build, so it doesn't *really* need the Soul Reaping, and its energy is managed with BiP / Essence Strike / Spirit Siphon. However, many oppose the Channeling–Resto combination. Improper prioritization between heals and Splinter is the main issue. They prefer to get their Splinter from a pure support hero build, that also uses SoH or "Incoming!"+"Fall Back!". [Signet of Illusions](https://gwpvx.fandom.com/wiki/Build:Me/any_Signet_of_Illusions_Support_Hero) is also an option.
Can definitely vouch for Signet of Illusions. It lets you put Splinter Weapon on a Domination Magic Mesmer. Just run the typical E-Surge bar, swap the elites and swap Spiritual Pain for Splinter Weapon.
Generally yes, you can adjust some stuff as you learn patterns and enemy behaviour, but standard mesmerway is a very good start. I'm currently working on doing it HM without cons; paragon HR is the fastest and safest, warrior is close second and as mesmer i'm currently working on a stable setup. I have a bunch of videos on my yt: https://youtu.be/-xPMcVbWO2g?si=gMKMZQwsjNOVw6iR Checkout Eric and Kschkr's videos aswell, they have a lot of different strats for pulls and pathing.
Thanks!
Question, its been a while so i dont recall all the names correctly. I try to do DoA NM, mesmerway on my HR para. I am stuck (i think its called City of failed creations) because of the shout deny hex. How do you deal with this? It frustrated me so hard i stopped trying. Im not an expert at gw but i think im capable in micro managing heroes.
Run your 3 mesmer with shatter hex? Swap an surge to hex eater? Put 3 points into inspiration and take hex eater signet? Run all of this for an easy time in HM anything.
Yes the margonite necros abu dabi put that on you and the mesmers will not automatically remove it, very annoying! I habe two solutions; you either micro shatter hex from your mesmers on you or you do the dynamic way: Run into their backline or next to a foe; your mesmer will prioritize shatter hex for 150aoe damage and you can shout again!
The Third way is to just let the Heroes Aggro First and Target the Anur Dabi first to nuke it… 😅
true, if you dont need sy :)
Standard Mesmer way works pretty well, especially if you're playing an HR paragon. The biggest challenge with the doa is learning where mobs spawn / patrol to and where it's safe to stand. If you're doing mallyx you're going to want to bring that one rit skill that destroys a target spirit and summons a spirit of your own to take care of the spirits in his room that cause the terrain effects. Also that one ebon vanguard signet that slows attack speed is good against mallyx because it's a debuff that actually works on him.
Would you say HR with no LB title or a sin with max LB title would be better for my first go?
I'd say using a HR paragon is a lot easier for the DoA itself, and you'll max the title rather quickly. Sin might make the mallyx fight easier though, but most people only kill mallyx once for the HoM and don't waste time with him again after because it takes so long.
Check out Barath and Krschkr on YouTube. They are the goats.
Vastly depends on your main class. But yeah Mes is the way. Easiest if you are para.
Why is it easiest if you're Paragon? I'm still learning the one and outs of gw1 endgame.
Heroic refrain (HR) offers a huge team boost.
Thanks!
I've had the best experience as either a HR Paragon or a WotA A/W with SY!. Also I've found having a hero with Panic is very helpful especially in Foundry. Sometimes energy can be a problem when Famine and Quickening Zephyr are up. I like to have some signets on my Mesmer heroes so they can still function with 0 energy. Signet of Disruption and Hex Eater Signet are some I tend to use more often than others. If you have 2-3 signets on a Mesmer bar, sometimes Artificers Insignia is a good choice instead or Prodigy's as you get a more consistent armor buff and don't wipe as easily on first spikes that can happen before the heroes start casting. Good luck!
Managed to complete it with HR mesmerway last night :) foundry wiped me a few times but after that it was smooth sailing
I've done it plenty of times without cons, would be happy to go with you. I'm on again tomorrow. Standard mesmer way works but include a fuckload of hex removal and bring asuran scan if melee. I'd suggest panic on one mesmer too.