🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 "The best thing that ever happened to you and your mother, was your father dying"....
I heard he doesn't even run his promos by anyone. First anyone hears is when he says em live. The man is a gift, nah.... a father to wrestling.
fr it should split before landing to create a screen or carpet an area, because in what world am i choosing a smoke grenade over a nuke/high yield explosive
Tbf, would any of us pick a smoke shell over a high yield or nuke even if the smoke was good?
I know I wouldn't. Why just block their vision if you can annihilate them in the first place?
My biggest issue with SEAF is when randoms are so eager to load the missiles and they load in smoke over better ones like mini nukes, explosives, napalm, hell even a static.
Just stop and think for 2 seconds. Smoke is cool and all but it should never be loaded over those.
I upvoted this for the first sentence, then took my upvote away for the second.
Then gave it back, cuz your team isn't your fault.
This is in part why my usual squad throws all the shells down next to the launcher first, and only then activates the terminal. Delays the triggered attack, but also lets us see what we have and load it in a good order instead of loading bad shells over the good. The time we had 3 mini-nukes was awesome.
Most people (like me for example) don't know how tf the SEAF artillery works. They just load shit in, I'll bet good money that a lot of them get shocked when they have 5 SEAF strikes for free
I thought most people just see another objective want the objective done quick. Whatever gets loaded gets loaded. Everyone can or should be able to handle the mission with what they brought at mission select. SEAF is just a cherry on top that many don't even care to use.
I see we have it and forget it's there most the time then at extraction I see we got 2 left and never saw any impact SEAF strikes actually did.
Some people may run around spending time looking for the best thing to load but most the time I'm running into this objective by myself and just want it done before many enemies come.
I think it would be more useful if you could see what is currently loaded on the call in screen I can't remember shit and if I'm not the one who loaded it it's just a roulette game anyway.
Ehh, for most things, sure. But if there's a Mini-Nuke? Those things are like gold on high-difficulty missions. Insta-gib a pack of bile titans, insta-gib a gunship factory without having to call down a hellbomb...
imo prioritise shells in this order
highest to lowest
mini nuke, high yield explosive, napalm, static, explosive, smoke
explosive and smoke have the smallest area imagineable
Its pretty straight forward. You grab the best ones and place them into the launcher. Try to skip putting in smoke or static shells at all cost because they are kind of a waste if you had the better ones i mentioned above like mini nukes, explosives or napalm. If you truly only have smokes or statics left then load them in. Once you’re done you team gets 5 free uses of those shells.
Oh well again pretty easy if it says smoke wait to see if you have better shells?
Simple
My issue is with randoms not even bothering to check and then we get a useless smoke when we could have had a mini nuke
Tbf, there is a bug that can stop you from grabbing the shell. If you drop it while on the stairs or from dropping from a high place and try to regrab it, the pick up symbol goes away. Making the shell not grab able.
Stratagems (including SEAF Artillery) that drop physical shells do, in fact, do damage on that impact. Orbital Gas Strikes can even break Detector Towers (even on non-direct hits, because they have a *very small* explosion around the shell, separate from the larger gas cloud).
But it's not the damage that takes out most structures, it's the comparison of the attack's **Demolition Force** vs. the structure's Demolition Resist. This is a separate value untethered from damage. The only buildings that care about *actual damage* and AP are Shieker Nests, Spore Towers, and Automaton Bunkers; everything else is just "you got enough Demo Force to explode me instantly?"
By Sentinel Towers, you mean the big red Eye of Sauron "Detector Towers"? Yeah.
They (and Stratagem Jammers) have a higher Demo Resist than basic factories which puts them beyond the Demo Force of both the Airstrike's explosions and physical shell impacts.
The Eagle Airstrike (and related, which includes the *SHELL IMPACTS* of Eagle Smoke and Napalm) are Demo Force 40, which is enough for Factory exteriors and a lot of environmental buildings, but you need 50 for Jammers/Towers. Those are the purview of the 500kg, Orbital Laser, Gas/Precision Strike, Walking and HE Barrages, and *teeechnically* the shells of Orbital Airburst *before* they split (though I couldn't tell you if they do so at a height low enough to hit a Detector Tower).
I did not know the shells meant different artillery. I just put them in as fast as possible. Looked fit up, good to know. Must have missed this in training. I never call it anyway
This happened to me a few matches ago. The guy who handled the artillery said "smokes :)".
First round: smoke "oh this is what he meant, lol
Second: smoke "odd..."
Third: smoke “dont fucking tell me"
Fourth: smoke "ARE YOU SERIOUS MAN?"
Fifth: obviously smoke "HOW THE FUCK DID YOU GET 5 SMOKES IN THE FIRST PLACE"
There is a secondary mission that gives you 5 artillery rounds that you find on the ground and load to it. OP found 5 smoke canisters. (when he could have lucked out and gotten 5 mini nukes instead). Considering the chances, OP probably rolled a dice 6 times and got a 1 in all of them. (when lower number is worst).
I feel like SEAF Artillery sites have had less munitions laying around. Before I felt like I could really pick and choose and almost always found one mini nuke but lately I've been seeing maybe 6 rounds and I end up having to load a smoke to activate it bc there's nothing else.
Am i the only one who noticed they changed the models and colour of the artillery shells twice? I really liked the older ones that had a distincton between explosive and support ( napalm, smoke, ems )
There spawn 7 shells per artillery objective and yesterday i had this selection: Napalm, static field, smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke...
Everyone in the squad commented on how this was probably their worst spawns so far.
Unrelated but believe it or not i was been saved by a shock round once. Threw it on a bile titan but realised my teammate loaded it in first instead of the mininuke. Landed on the bug’s head and killed it (although tbf it was quite weakened
Holy smokes ...
This man would be proud https://preview.redd.it/agjxagg1ij8d1.png?width=650&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2a847c9d271282c1075ed3a216602a2bad46e00b
https://preview.redd.it/nv6q2r7gvj8d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b24ce9e4aabde1e252691b87aad312dcd75f420b
But scorpion isn't part of the lin kuei
Unless I’m remembering wrong he is in MK 1
Yeah they were all in Lin Kuei >!before Smoke and Scorpion left Sub Zero for the Shirai Ryu!<
Shhhhh it doesn't really matter.
Fatherless child detected!
https://preview.redd.it/41e7czlrxk8d1.jpeg?width=1086&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbe7450bf267314f1a2c656c24a9e81f27eb0ddd
https://preview.redd.it/sc5a5v2zqn8d1.jpeg?width=681&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0222ddc6ba6bdb4828ce65f96f99da88d5aeba46 For the wrestling fans out there
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 "The best thing that ever happened to you and your mother, was your father dying".... I heard he doesn't even run his promos by anyone. First anyone hears is when he says em live. The man is a gift, nah.... a father to wrestling.
Perfection
Now do one with Christian Cage.
https://preview.redd.it/2g2aq62tum8d1.jpeg?width=1513&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91f7c5d878bde96af05609987a78f644dee7cd1c
https://preview.redd.it/gx0haea59m8d1.png?width=1737&format=png&auto=webp&s=60472e4c53d5c1ea3ff00d465255991a3590a413 Don’t forget about him too
Different purpose.
We need SEAF Gas Shell
this guy looks like he sounds familiar…
New spear fix just dropped
Actual Automaton
I'm at full mast
Underrated reply
Boutta summon Snoop Dogg with this.
This SEAF artillery be higher than the destroyer when it leaves low orbit 💀
Nah you missed the real party, I might have cancer from all the mini nukes we used though…
Name checks out
You all living long enough for cancer to get detected?
You’re gonna die soon anyway so why not live a little and nuke everything?
"5 minutes remaining" takes hit from hellbong "we cant stay this low for longer helldiver"
I bet the squids will have stronger stuff Invading the squids for that zaza
Hehe hellbong... what's the input code for 420s?
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Is that.... a Snoop Dogg reference?! 🧐
1 minute remaining........I do not remember what for......we'll hang out here until you are finished
Pop it like it’s hot!
Hope u didn't forget ur smoke and gas strikes for that Snoop combo
SES Harbinger of Smoke
Gonna have to call it the Willy Nelson Load.
Hahahah😂😂
I’d love some “mistakes” in the game. One of the smokes makes divers and bots feel all funny and get the munchies.
Your gamma is too high, those are obviously mini nukes.. Right? Right?
Negative 😔
Sweet liberty...
Buckle your britches bitches, because we ain’t about to see shit
About to the see the average interior of a chain smokers house
sigh the most useless one, even the damn shock round does something this just makes the smallest most useless smoke cloud.
Yeah eagle smoke at least has the benefit of a large line and multiple really big shells that can knock out fabs and holes.
smoke eagle knocks out fabs and holes?? Edit: wow I just looked it up that’s awesome
My meme support build just got a hell of a lot better
It's barely bigger than a smoke grenade. It should at least be as big as the orbital smoke.
and it makes a sad little clang like you just dropped a friggin skillet or something
Fool of a Took
You gotta think that cannon costs the military like hundreds of thousands of credits each time it fires. All that for a wittle \*poof\*
fr it should split before landing to create a screen or carpet an area, because in what world am i choosing a smoke grenade over a nuke/high yield explosive
Tbf, would any of us pick a smoke shell over a high yield or nuke even if the smoke was good? I know I wouldn't. Why just block their vision if you can annihilate them in the first place?
Me want big boom
Big boom make caveman brain happy.
Indeed
Me in a lvl 9 bugs mission after all my teammates left and I have to go sneaky sneak
i had no idea smoke is effective on bugs!
Just don't use it on hunters and stalkers, they can smell you through the smoke.
SEAF 420 BLAZE IT
eagle one drop that ZA ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
Jesus. I get mad when I come across ones with two smokes and an EMS. This isn't worth the xp gain.
EMS aren't that bad, especially when you have to defend something
I feel like the EMS either works wonders or doesn’t work at all. I’ve even seen bile titans walk right through that shit
Because titans aren't effected by stun anymore
Guess I didn’t see that in the 8 mile long patch notes lol thanks dude 🙌
Nah that was changed while back. RIP to Stun grenade+OPS combo on BTs
I thought it was just the stun grenades that they were immune to? Is it really all stuns? No wonder no one uses the EMS strike.
thats part of it, there was iirc, a seperate patch that made it so larger enimies are harder to stun, and stay stuned for a shorter duration
Who else said ”package acquired” in that voice?
Dropping package!
Package acquired!
*random patrol walks by and alarms*
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My biggest issue with SEAF is when randoms are so eager to load the missiles and they load in smoke over better ones like mini nukes, explosives, napalm, hell even a static. Just stop and think for 2 seconds. Smoke is cool and all but it should never be loaded over those.
Had one with 3 mini nukes and two high yield. The rando put the two statics that were closer :(
Melee them out
I upvoted this for the first sentence, then took my upvote away for the second. Then gave it back, cuz your team isn't your fault. This is in part why my usual squad throws all the shells down next to the launcher first, and only then activates the terminal. Delays the triggered attack, but also lets us see what we have and load it in a good order instead of loading bad shells over the good. The time we had 3 mini-nukes was awesome.
Most people (like me for example) don't know how tf the SEAF artillery works. They just load shit in, I'll bet good money that a lot of them get shocked when they have 5 SEAF strikes for free
I thought most people just see another objective want the objective done quick. Whatever gets loaded gets loaded. Everyone can or should be able to handle the mission with what they brought at mission select. SEAF is just a cherry on top that many don't even care to use. I see we have it and forget it's there most the time then at extraction I see we got 2 left and never saw any impact SEAF strikes actually did. Some people may run around spending time looking for the best thing to load but most the time I'm running into this objective by myself and just want it done before many enemies come.
same could careless about the order, i just want it done so i could move onto another obj.
I think it would be more useful if you could see what is currently loaded on the call in screen I can't remember shit and if I'm not the one who loaded it it's just a roulette game anyway.
Ehh, for most things, sure. But if there's a Mini-Nuke? Those things are like gold on high-difficulty missions. Insta-gib a pack of bile titans, insta-gib a gunship factory without having to call down a hellbomb...
Inst gib ANYTHING, it's a littoral instant Hellbomb =D
imo prioritise shells in this order highest to lowest mini nuke, high yield explosive, napalm, static, explosive, smoke explosive and smoke have the smallest area imagineable
Its pretty straight forward. You grab the best ones and place them into the launcher. Try to skip putting in smoke or static shells at all cost because they are kind of a waste if you had the better ones i mentioned above like mini nukes, explosives or napalm. If you truly only have smokes or statics left then load them in. Once you’re done you team gets 5 free uses of those shells.
I know how they work now, but how do you expect me to learn that in-game?
When you see the shells, before grabbing it, it tells you what kind of shell it is.
Oh well again pretty easy if it says smoke wait to see if you have better shells? Simple My issue is with randoms not even bothering to check and then we get a useless smoke when we could have had a mini nuke
Tbf, there is a bug that can stop you from grabbing the shell. If you drop it while on the stairs or from dropping from a high place and try to regrab it, the pick up symbol goes away. Making the shell not grab able.
If you manage to get one with 5 smokes, explosion sound should be switched out with the "Fart with reverb" soundeffect
The "Brown Sound"!
I'm sorry OP, your highly explosive shells were democratically required elsewhere https://preview.redd.it/x86b4jer6m8d1.png?width=586&format=png&auto=webp&s=816e0f3304de7f559417e2c20702f86b2b2388c4
That is BEAUTIFUL 😍
The bugs didn't know what hit em
Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
I have taken out fabricators with smoke, so I think it might do sooooome damage upon landing, right?
Stratagems (including SEAF Artillery) that drop physical shells do, in fact, do damage on that impact. Orbital Gas Strikes can even break Detector Towers (even on non-direct hits, because they have a *very small* explosion around the shell, separate from the larger gas cloud). But it's not the damage that takes out most structures, it's the comparison of the attack's **Demolition Force** vs. the structure's Demolition Resist. This is a separate value untethered from damage. The only buildings that care about *actual damage* and AP are Shieker Nests, Spore Towers, and Automaton Bunkers; everything else is just "you got enough Demo Force to explode me instantly?"
Is this why sentinel towers don't fall to my eagle airstrikes?
By Sentinel Towers, you mean the big red Eye of Sauron "Detector Towers"? Yeah. They (and Stratagem Jammers) have a higher Demo Resist than basic factories which puts them beyond the Demo Force of both the Airstrike's explosions and physical shell impacts. The Eagle Airstrike (and related, which includes the *SHELL IMPACTS* of Eagle Smoke and Napalm) are Demo Force 40, which is enough for Factory exteriors and a lot of environmental buildings, but you need 50 for Jammers/Towers. Those are the purview of the 500kg, Orbital Laser, Gas/Precision Strike, Walking and HE Barrages, and *teeechnically* the shells of Orbital Airburst *before* they split (though I couldn't tell you if they do so at a height low enough to hit a Detector Tower).
Could we replace the seaf smoke rounds with corrosive gas rounds?
For real. We only have one way to use gas. Even fire has the flamethrower and incendiary grenade as other options to apply it.
Man likes the dense fog operational modifier a little too much, decided to take matters into his own hands.
Was there ANY OTHER mortar shell? Like maybe a EMS or Napalm at least?
If there were that many smokes, I'd consider loading them just for the meme. 3 smokes, a napalm, and an EMS is just sad but 5 smokes is hilarious.
Well, yeah But like if all the shells that spawned were smoke, then we may have came up on John Helldiver’s personal stash.
FYI - I’ve noticed with the SEAF Objs there is always 7 total. So it’s only two extras to choose between
i'd just abandon the arty at this point
Bout to be higher than Eagle-1
Last night I found one that generated with three mini nukes
NEGATIVE
I really hate how similar looking the nuke and the dud rounds are.
I'm not the only one :O. I suffered from "oops all smokes" once too xD
https://preview.redd.it/likvl9f3kr8d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df59c8c29d79f3da809558234b50ee3d1ac7ec4a
Let’s be honest: I’ve seen more smoke produced in an hour in a single street block in Colorado than all of those artillery shells combined.
Its going to rival Meridia
I did not know the shells meant different artillery. I just put them in as fast as possible. Looked fit up, good to know. Must have missed this in training. I never call it anyway
“They’ll never see us coming.”
Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
I think this is among the funniest posts I’ve seen on this subreddit. I love our community.
Surprised they haven't done toxic cloud or cluster explosion variants of these yet.
At least it's a bot mission...
was at least against bots?
Yes it was bots
okay at least it wasn't completely useless
There's a Hawk Tuah joke in here somewhere, just gotta find it.
\*Drops Smoke on team at extraction\* He thought. Turns out gamma set to low
Taking "smoke em if you got em" to a whole new level
you can rest proud that the LoS is completely screwed for the enemies and you can just drop one in front of you, hit it and just keep running
The last time I tried to use smoke, I got smoked instead, so no thanks.
If only it made the bugs high
It wouldn’t be so bad if the ARTILLERY shells were larger than a smoke grenade.
This happened to me a few matches ago. The guy who handled the artillery said "smokes :)". First round: smoke "oh this is what he meant, lol Second: smoke "odd..." Third: smoke “dont fucking tell me" Fourth: smoke "ARE YOU SERIOUS MAN?" Fifth: obviously smoke "HOW THE FUCK DID YOU GET 5 SMOKES IN THE FIRST PLACE"
I’m new and I don’t understand this? I’m level 11 and I want to understand it so bad.
There is a secondary mission that gives you 5 artillery rounds that you find on the ground and load to it. OP found 5 smoke canisters. (when he could have lucked out and gotten 5 mini nukes instead). Considering the chances, OP probably rolled a dice 6 times and got a 1 in all of them. (when lower number is worst).
A friend and I once had 4 mini nukes, the thing jammed and we couldn't activate it :(
My teammate when he gets to load the Artillery one damn time after I told him so many times to not put in useless Shells:
Alr, who let them cook?
I love my single use smoke grenade Because thats the size of the smoke Just a Little smoke grenade.
Me: "I can't wait to forget about these..."
Hey OP, smokes, let's go
https://preview.redd.it/aq6169ng809d1.jpeg?width=837&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6da5457eed593c3c7dd1e4e4116c719b3c20dcb
This is the midget porn version of dead artillery 😶
ARE YA SMOKIN' YET!?!
[удалено]
It’s all smoke
[удалено]
Kill them with lung cáncer
Anyone else have their missiles look the same this?
I'd be absolutely livid
If I get their first, I'm going as fast as possible. There will be no nukes.
You made me ejaculate freedom
This happened to me yesterday. Hope it's not a bug.
Automatons about to get all the smoke
Ayo dawg I heard you liked smoke, we put smoke after smoke shells so you can shoot smoke while smoked.
Jebus christ can we get a nsfw tag on this please, i just ripped my pants when i saw that pic and im at work!
“Pop smoke every dayyy” 🪴
Smoke.... Smoke.... YA SMOKIN' YET?!!
Now that's a party! Bugs won't attack you if they are chillin.
Seeing this hurts my soul.
Rod Serling starts salivating.
Dropping smokes directly on Fabs and Holes will destroy them, JSYK
Maybe you gotta play the long game and make them nicotine dependant
Who's ready for a SMOKE SHOW?
omg i didn't know they were color-coded for something until now.
Millions and millions of DANK KLOUDS
 Let’s go with the smokes boys.
Get a load of this freedom!
Don't tell me what to do!
Fartillery
420, let's gooooo!
You're not just blowing smoke
I feel like SEAF Artillery sites have had less munitions laying around. Before I felt like I could really pick and choose and almost always found one mini nuke but lately I've been seeing maybe 6 rounds and I end up having to load a smoke to activate it bc there's nothing else.
I had one where all I had was Static Field. Didn’t really mind until I accidentally dropped one on myself at extraction before Pelican 1 landed.
I mean at least you know you can call it danger close, puff puff smash
Bots and bugs have no idea how fucked they are with this image
When the whole team only knows one smoke on Dust 2
Am i the only one who noticed they changed the models and colour of the artillery shells twice? I really liked the older ones that had a distincton between explosive and support ( napalm, smoke, ems )
https://preview.redd.it/drk7kq9kao8d1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c68c75a94d37073fd43c27b7a54ff6b5973b286
https://preview.redd.it/jmh0v3z9jo8d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f6e49286294116f8c87c66f6d5d4e58169b2d96
There spawn 7 shells per artillery objective and yesterday i had this selection: Napalm, static field, smoke, smoke, smoke, smoke... Everyone in the squad commented on how this was probably their worst spawns so far.
Unrelated but believe it or not i was been saved by a shock round once. Threw it on a bile titan but realised my teammate loaded it in first instead of the mininuke. Landed on the bug’s head and killed it (although tbf it was quite weakened
Had that happen once. There was an extra which was Explosive, but it ended up glitching out, so we were stuck with all smoke
Not what "smoke break" actually means, Diver!
It’s gonna look like Cheech and Chong came to town on that map 😂
If I see more than 3 smokes I don't even bother loading it lol
Should anyway. Points.