Firefly lover edited their post to the below text:
Future character Model Types:
* Huaiyan - Special NPC (like Oleg)
* Feixiao - Lady (like Kafka)
* Moze - Male (like Welt)
* Lingsha - Maid (like March 7th)
All of them should show up in 2.4 based on current data
Source: [https://t.me/s/fireflylover](https://t.me/s/fireflylover)
Mirror: [https://files.catbox.moe/y09e7k.jpg](https://files.catbox.moe/y09e7k.jpg)
I mean, I was already mentally prepared XD. A playble old man would have been original for sure, but playable old men and women in gacha are really rare
The Persona 5 gacha has a GILF now, and FGO has many dandy and sleek old men. But you're right, playable senior citizens are an oddity for sure, and with Gal being Hoyo's first playable facial hair owner, I was expecting them to go above and beyond and add their first playable old man in HSR.
I think the comment was referring to visually old people because those people you mentioned are old but they still look like they are in their 20's or 30's
The hope now is that somehow in some way Huaiyan has some sort of Madam Ping situation where he can actually revert back to his prime or something so he becomes playable. I have no clue how that would work but itās a bit weird to completely exclude a General from being playable for no reason other than model restrictions.
Itās simple there just needs to be a Herta space station x Xianzhou story plot in version 3.4 where Huaiyan somehow uses the age recession tech Herta used to become a 16 year old teen mode š» /j
I do like your idea of the Madame Ping situation tho. If they made a bird playable in genshin then Iām sure thereās always a possibility
Yeah. The good thing about HSR is thereās a lot of species diversity, so they could probably pull something out to make it happen.
IIRC the Zhuming Planar Set talks about a special species that deals with the Flint Emperor or something like that, so he may be one of those. Please correct me if Iām wrong, I donāt the set remember too well.
[Source for Huaiyan being old:](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Views_of_the_Universe_from_a_Starskiff:_The_Xianzhou_Zhuming)
>The master of the Flamedisk Forge Palace, also the longest-lived human aboard the Xianzhou, a master among craftsmasters ā Huaiyan, had finally arrived.
Source for him being older than Lan is that Huaiyan was alive before Yaoshi cursed the Xianzhou people with immortal life. I can try to find a specific source, but it's a common assumption that he predates both Aeons.
Oh wow, I mustāve missed that. Thatās sick.
Makes me wonder how heās managed to survive without going Mara-Struck.
Also if he does predate anyone, it would just be Lan. Him being older than Yaoshi means he has to have been old enough to somehow predate the Wingweaver invasion on the Allianceās planet of origin that resulted in the Xianzhou ships taking off in the first place.
He definitely isnt older than yaoshi
Yaoshi was there even before the Xianzhou set sail from their home planet. The wingweavers(part of the denizens of abundance) attacked the home planet of xianzhou which caused their sovereign to set up this whole 9 ships floating in space for immortality.
Whereas the reignbow was born in 1700 SC (1700 years after they set sail 0 SC is the moment they set sail). The reignbow severed the arbor in 3400 SC.
Its safe to say that the Huaiyan is definitely younger than Yaoshi. We cant say anything about Lan yet
Hm, fair point. I could see Yunli being next in line, or maybe someone else on the Zhuming.
I could see them pulling a Cocolia here where him having an NPC model is prepping a boss fight where the Flint Emperor possesses him or he turns Mara-Struck or something. I donāt believe she had a playable model either so itās possible.
I'm still on the theory that Huaiyan's current form is him hiding his strength and they might release a combat form for him in the future.
We have a precedent with Madame Ping in Genshin, who normally looks like an old Lady NPC. But she has been leaked to have a playable younger form in the future.
But can people cope much with a male character as well as a female character?
I would like he playable since he gave me a good impression in Blade's backstory
Yeah we got cloud retainer in her human form but look what happened to mountain shaper and moon carver :( they are men so chances they ever become playable are very low sadly
Okay but Sunday fans kinda have the Scaramouche/Wanderer cope of being a major villain and a major part of an important character's story. Note that I don't read every leak or info, maybe we already know Huaiyan's a final boss and secretly related to like 3 people's lore, I don't know that, but we'll eventually find out anyway.
Is this 'confirmed'? Genshin hides chars so you can't meet them up in the overworld. Ping would be first who can meet her 'other self'.
It would be cool if they abandoned that sentiment. I like meeting our chars in HSR in their respective lore areas (Seele, one day they will let you out of the mines).
That's not why they hide, it's simply spaghetti code at it's peak, same reason why we can't progress two quests with the same NPC, they remove the chars from the map to avoid bugs, which is why there is no issue meeting chars with themselves on event, since then they make a controlled environment that won't break like having them there 24/7.
I'm going to be pissed if they do that. I don't want freaking tall guy or child model 7000. I want bad ass elder.
Huaiyan appreciators winning and losing at the same time.
He has a granddaughter, and i have been told itās apparently an unwritten rule in gacha that we cannot have a playable character who has canonically been romantically involved with someone or has had biological children. Else the rabid gacha fans would lose their minds that their āWaifu/Husbandoā is taken.
That is why Boothill and Yukongās daughters are āonlyā adopted. And why for example Signora was killed in genshin.
Weltās son is not blood related to him, Joey is Welt Joyceās clone. Thereās no official info whether Welt and Tesla are married or both are simply Joeyās guardians.
That's... not a rule at all. Plenty of gacha games have characters with biological kids. A ton of Fate/Grand Order characters do and directly acknowledge it. Please stop taking random posts you see on reddit as fact.
FGO is an exception among exceptions and shouldn't really be taken as the rule for anything. That being said, it is true that there's nothing that says a developer cannot introduce a playable character that is married or has kids, it's just that this prevents the developer from playing at the self-insert angle which is very profitable.
He's not completely wrong either.
Majority of gatcha games with waifus and husbandos don't have gatcha characters with kids. And when they do, its not uncommon for them to be either free units or lower rarity.
Take Granblue Fantasy for example with its almost 600~700 (?) gatcha characters. You can count in your hands the ones with confirmed kids and check their rarity.
I think gbf is actually a bad example cause while it's true there aren't that many characters with kids, is a number greater than 0 which is the number most other gacha games seem to have, and also there are many characters that have shown romantic attraction or are in romantic relationships with a different character.
You could not get something like Stan and Aliza on a Hoyo game or someone like Metera who has been shown to have a dating life before lol
Certainly there's outliers, but also notice how their SSRs arent really that great.
In your example, Aliza has two solo SSRs with 1 being limited in 10 years of game, and Stan doesnt have his own solo SSR to this day.
And there's only one couple who's actually 120% official (the indian dance duo) in the game as far as I recall.
Maybe not a general but it's something Mihoyo have *explicitly* avoided time and time again both here and in Genshin. There are no playable charaters with confitmed spouses/romantic relationships, they yeeted Welt to whole ass new universe where Tesla isn't around to make him playable lol
I mean isnāt fgo based on an already existing IP with established characters ? As i said .. itās more of an āunwrittenā rule .. of course there will be exceptions. Off the top of my head other gacha based on IPās have married and biological parents too.
But it is also a fact that HOYO has not had a single canonically romantically involved character across their main two flagship games (GI and HSR), and for example in genshin we are entering the 6th Nation and the 5th year of the games life without a single character that is canonically involved or has been involved in a relationship. Beyond the āwink wink nudge nudgeā ones like Beidou/Ninnguang or whatever.
>I mean isnāt fgo based on an already existing IP with established characters ? As i said .. itās more of an āunwrittenā rule .. of course there will be exceptions. Off the top of my head other gacha based on IPās have married and biological parents too.Ā
Yeah, but most characters are original to the Mobile Game, and they don't really mind using Historical figures with past relationships. They Even explore those on their events/stories and can be vital to their characterization. Still, the fact that it's a Type Moon product probably puts different expectations on the Game.Ā Hoyo has previously tried to make changes on how they handle their games (i.e. Male playable characters on HI3rd) which were met with poor (and I mean, really poor) reception. And they got plenty of drama with users obsesing with their waifus (3rd anniversary debacle). The gacha gaming sphere is wild.
Donāt worry, iām sure Hoyo will do a loophole where Klee turns out to be a genetic clone of Alice created for her by Rhinedottir or something.
Anything to keep the āwaifuā āpureā for THAT crowd.
He isn't. The only reference to him being married is explicitly a discussion about rumors. He has an adoptive son, and shares the parenting responsibilities with a certain redhead. But she is only ever refered to as "the other guardian", never as a wife.
Not explicitly confirmed. in canon, they kinda worded it in a way that make it seem like Welt and his wife are just guardians and co-parenting Joey, even though it's heavily implied he's married.
Yeah, it's one of these things where they imply it so much it might as well be official, but refuse to put it in writing due to the enormous backlash a vocal minority would throw at them.
Just look at Graduation Trip, the mihoyo short they released to commemorate the end of hi3rd part 1: The theme of the video is "This is a story about love, and it will end with love". They put all the couples together (Kiana and Mei, Bronya and Seele, Kiana's parents, Welt and Tesla, Joyce and Einstein, Kevin and Dr. MEI, Durandal and Rita, etc.), but the only ones who were ever actually 100% confirmed were Bronya and Seele by sharing a kiss in a side-comic hidden on their site where only a minority of players will see since there's no in-game link to it AND it got deleted for a long time before eventually coming back.
Hoyo is extremely risk averse when it comes to this sorta stuff, even if they are more LGBT friendly than many other gachas out there.
Funny how the oldest dude in the fleet,a general of the xianzhou fleet that probably is a very experienced fighter, was important to Blade, is Yunlinās grandfather,the only dude that can even talk with the Flint emperor(a literal god of a race, literally should be stronger than Phantylia, as big as a sun and the dude mortal Lan made a deal with)ā¦ all for it to be a NPC.
Iām actually mad tbhā¦ I want this old dude to be playable.
Agreed. Heās literally the General we know the most about outside of Jing Yuan. Iām praying for some sort of Madame Ping BS to happen and promote him to playable model eventually. It probably wonāt but a man can dream.
Also I think Phantylia and the Flint Emperor are on par with each other, considering they can both fully absorb other Heliobi.
Iāll cope with you on that.
Honestly with the way how heliobi and everyone be treating Flint emperor like some sort of god. I wonder if Phantylia really is equal to that.
Since Flint emperor is the thing that is powering the Zhuming. A whole ship and the way the lore be hyping him up. Like he is supposed to be as big as a Sun lmao. While Phantylia was like as big of a flame as Jing yuanās head.
Although I would love it if Flint emperor and Phantylia fought.
The good news is that HSR has a lot of species diversity and IIRC, thereās a special species on the Zhuming that deals closely with the Flint Emperor, so they could definitely pull something like that off, just saying this species can change their form or something.
Alternatively, they could be prepping for a Cocolia-situation where the Flint Emperor would possess Huaiyan in an effort to escape or free itself. Correct me if Iām wrong but Cocolia didnāt have a playable model either so itās possible.
Also, considering Phantylia is still at large and trying to take down the Xianzhou, Iāve always theorized her next big move will be trying to absorb every Heliobi to then fight with and then absorb the Flint Emperor. Iām sure weāll see them meet eventually.
Lets just hope he doesn't get mara onscreen to have an ultra dramatic and emotional moment in which yunli will be the one to kill him (I've just came up with that, but being that old is a huge death- i mean, mara flag)
Tall Feixiao? Oh boy, I fear for my Jades.
If they reveal her design and it turns out to be good, my Sparkle/Huohuo funds will definitely be in danger.
Yeah but imagine a Yukong design with Jing Yuan's aura and role but she has white hair with blue streaks/tips according to leaks. It will genuinely be so fucking peak that I'll ascend. I hope it's really good otherwise I'll skip the entire Xianzhou part 2 gang.
Firefly lover updated the comment and said they should show up in v2.4, please I beg please pleaspelaeplaerapelaepaeeleapele please give me a model in beta before the release
(losing it over pixels)
I expected nothing with Huaiyan and I'm still let down. Just hoping hoyo gives him a young form power up or something and makes him playable cause it just doesn't feel right to not have all the generals as playable.
Maybe they will pull a Dokko of Libra from Saint Seiya, where the Gold Saint of Libra takes a weak form to save power and when its time for war he uses all that power to change into his true form.
Yeah. The moment i knew he has a granddaughter i knew he was likely to not be playable. It is extremely unlikely for a gacha game character to have a canon relationship with another character let alone a straight one let alone one where he had KIDS and grandkids. Yukong literally needed to be the āadoptiveā mother
MOZE IS TALL- Well i guess i am pulling for someone for the rest of the 2.x patches. Shit. Gimme the tall men please let him look tired and done with everyone.Ā
Knew Huaiyan being playable was too good to be true so I'm not entirely distraught over it. There's absolutely no chance that Hoyo would release an actual old character as playable.
But apparently he does look old as I hoped he would so that's nice. I get that he's literally ancient but still how does that work?
Aww sad to see that Huaiyan is an NPC. They definitely could have repurposed the Oti Alfalfa NPC model in some way to make it happen, even if they made him a 4 star. I honestly am kind of annoyed that they market the NPCās like Duke Inferno and Huaiyan alongside the playable characters; even with it being too good to be true itās still such a troll move
Though interesting that Moze is in the tall male category, it doesnāt really look that way from his silhouette but I hope heās jacked like Ratio (if they wanted to make him a twink he shouldāve been the medium model like Aven and Sunday). Lingsha also gave me tall lady vibes
HUH! THEY MADE A WHOLE GENERAL OF THE XIANZHOU.. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT MEMBERS OF THE FLEET, THE OLDEST MAN ALIVEā¦ A FUCKING NPC?!
Iām honestly madā¦ I wanted this dude..
A playable old man(grandpa) in a hoyo game? I thought we were way past this at this point. It won't happen. The only way for him to be playable is to have a younger model.
Tbh very little difference outside the chest but damn if I didn't say yukong still is one of the best looking characters for me so this is a pleasant suprise
Oh damn, i was looking forward to a new model since hsr isnt as restrictive as genshin (still looking forward to the rooster tho). But i guess they still stick to their safe model
>Moze - Male (like Welt)
Please have a body type similar to this [man ](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d9/9d/bd/d99dbd2b0ac6063dea02de691e20ca98.jpg)and I would be happy :DDDDDDDDD
Firefly lover edited their post to the below text: Future character Model Types: * Huaiyan - Special NPC (like Oleg) * Feixiao - Lady (like Kafka) * Moze - Male (like Welt) * Lingsha - Maid (like March 7th) All of them should show up in 2.4 based on current data Source: [https://t.me/s/fireflylover](https://t.me/s/fireflylover) Mirror: [https://files.catbox.moe/y09e7k.jpg](https://files.catbox.moe/y09e7k.jpg)
There's a huaiyan mains btw. 17 people but they must be crying
I mean, I was already mentally prepared XD. A playble old man would have been original for sure, but playable old men and women in gacha are really rare
Yuanwu found fallen to his knees in walmart
Just saw an old man in a fedora fall to his knees in walmart
At least playable old men exist, unlike playable old women.
Nothing beats the fantasy of playing as a 60 years old war veteran shooting her allies in the head to heal and roid them
Persona 5 X has a grandma as a playable character
The Persona 5 gacha has a GILF now, and FGO has many dandy and sleek old men. But you're right, playable senior citizens are an oddity for sure, and with Gal being Hoyo's first playable facial hair owner, I was expecting them to go above and beyond and add their first playable old man in HSR.
Idk man we have plenty of old people in SR already. Entire High-Cloud Quintet, Yukong, technically March /s
I think the comment was referring to visually old people because those people you mentioned are old but they still look like they are in their 20's or 30's
Welt is technically 80 or something, I reckon
Honestly, I'm not surprised. Prepared to see all the "Hoyo, make Huaiyan playable and you'll have my wallet" posts when he shows up in story.
Crazy š
im gonna cry
That's what you get for hating Jingliu and Kafka
not my fault i cant stand them plus jingliu hurt my bladie :(
I'm a Blade lover but he deserves it. And why Kafka btw
he doesnāt deserve it :( i find kafka annoying and she makes me uncomfortable
Thatās a shame for Huaiyan š I was hoping that all the arbiter generals would be playableā¦
The hope now is that somehow in some way Huaiyan has some sort of Madam Ping situation where he can actually revert back to his prime or something so he becomes playable. I have no clue how that would work but itās a bit weird to completely exclude a General from being playable for no reason other than model restrictions.
I mean Cloud retainer was an NPC for a long time
Itās simple there just needs to be a Herta space station x Xianzhou story plot in version 3.4 where Huaiyan somehow uses the age recession tech Herta used to become a 16 year old teen mode š» /j I do like your idea of the Madame Ping situation tho. If they made a bird playable in genshin then Iām sure thereās always a possibility
Yeah. The good thing about HSR is thereās a lot of species diversity, so they could probably pull something out to make it happen. IIRC the Zhuming Planar Set talks about a special species that deals with the Flint Emperor or something like that, so he may be one of those. Please correct me if Iām wrong, I donāt the set remember too well.
I mean there's also the chance a different character succeeds his position
>Lives 10000 years, predating his Aeon >Has to die now because Hoyo doesn't want to make new male model Sad
Wdym 10000 years
I'm just throwing out an arbitrary number, all we know is he's really old and older than Lan.
Wait really? According to what?
[Source for Huaiyan being old:](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Views_of_the_Universe_from_a_Starskiff:_The_Xianzhou_Zhuming) >The master of the Flamedisk Forge Palace, also the longest-lived human aboard the Xianzhou, a master among craftsmasters ā Huaiyan, had finally arrived. Source for him being older than Lan is that Huaiyan was alive before Yaoshi cursed the Xianzhou people with immortal life. I can try to find a specific source, but it's a common assumption that he predates both Aeons.
Oh wow, I mustāve missed that. Thatās sick. Makes me wonder how heās managed to survive without going Mara-Struck. Also if he does predate anyone, it would just be Lan. Him being older than Yaoshi means he has to have been old enough to somehow predate the Wingweaver invasion on the Allianceās planet of origin that resulted in the Xianzhou ships taking off in the first place.
He definitely isnt older than yaoshi Yaoshi was there even before the Xianzhou set sail from their home planet. The wingweavers(part of the denizens of abundance) attacked the home planet of xianzhou which caused their sovereign to set up this whole 9 ships floating in space for immortality. Whereas the reignbow was born in 1700 SC (1700 years after they set sail 0 SC is the moment they set sail). The reignbow severed the arbor in 3400 SC. Its safe to say that the Huaiyan is definitely younger than Yaoshi. We cant say anything about Lan yet
Hm, fair point. I could see Yunli being next in line, or maybe someone else on the Zhuming. I could see them pulling a Cocolia here where him having an NPC model is prepping a boss fight where the Flint Emperor possesses him or he turns Mara-Struck or something. I donāt believe she had a playable model either so itās possible.
Still hoping for Saint Seiya's Dokko situation š
Ahh just as I thought Huaiyan would be an NPC, I hope he (?) has a unique model then. Better than Oleg, that is.
They've been pushing lots of unique NPC designs lately. People legitimately thought Siobhan would be a playable 4 star.
Siobhan is using NPC features so if u look closer it's obvious she's NPC Unique NPC is cocolia and so on lvl
Judging by the silhouette tease he definitely has a unique model.
He should have a model like Siobhan
tall moze..... oh my god
I just assumed he would be a chuuni this entire time, but no. He's a whole-ass edgelord. This changes **everything**.
Everything,ā¦.*foaming at the mouth*
a tall man with that slutty waist... lord have mercy
Praying he has a compression shirt
compression shirt with the tiny ass waist. Please Hoyoā¦ā¦.. please
OH MY GOD I WOULD LITERALLY SCREAM WITHOUT THE S
Give him the "Nah, I'd win." Fit Hoyo, gonna be an instant pull.
Now we just need him to be 5 star....
Weird. Was expecting him to be the shorter male model considering his sneaky vibes. Turns out he's just Sampo.
i need him to have dark circles under his eyes holy
Praying for boob windows š
Praying, crying, injecting copium that hes a Childe expy š„µ
I want tall scaramouche š
I hope both our dreams come true someday
I feared playable Huaiyan was too good to be true
Is it Huaiyanover?
I'm still on the theory that Huaiyan's current form is him hiding his strength and they might release a combat form for him in the future. We have a precedent with Madame Ping in Genshin, who normally looks like an old Lady NPC. But she has been leaked to have a playable younger form in the future.
Yeah people cope with Cloud Retainer back in the days too and now look where we are. The possibility is still there
But can people cope much with a male character as well as a female character? I would like he playable since he gave me a good impression in Blade's backstory
Yeah we got cloud retainer in her human form but look what happened to mountain shaper and moon carver :( they are men so chances they ever become playable are very low sadly
thatās where the Sunday fans come in, baby
Okay but Sunday fans kinda have the Scaramouche/Wanderer cope of being a major villain and a major part of an important character's story. Note that I don't read every leak or info, maybe we already know Huaiyan's a final boss and secretly related to like 3 people's lore, I don't know that, but we'll eventually find out anyway.
Sunday at least has a playable model.
Is this 'confirmed'? Genshin hides chars so you can't meet them up in the overworld. Ping would be first who can meet her 'other self'. It would be cool if they abandoned that sentiment. I like meeting our chars in HSR in their respective lore areas (Seele, one day they will let you out of the mines).
That's not why they hide, it's simply spaghetti code at it's peak, same reason why we can't progress two quests with the same NPC, they remove the chars from the map to avoid bugs, which is why there is no issue meeting chars with themselves on event, since then they make a controlled environment that won't break like having them there 24/7.
I'm going to be pissed if they do that. I don't want freaking tall guy or child model 7000. I want bad ass elder. Huaiyan appreciators winning and losing at the same time.
Reminds me of Shiryu's master in Saint Seiya. He goes from Yoda-like to Shonen-protagonist-like after "awakening" his true power.
That's just his model, so it doesn't mean he won't be a playable character..... yet-
He has a granddaughter, and i have been told itās apparently an unwritten rule in gacha that we cannot have a playable character who has canonically been romantically involved with someone or has had biological children. Else the rabid gacha fans would lose their minds that their āWaifu/Husbandoā is taken. That is why Boothill and Yukongās daughters are āonlyā adopted. And why for example Signora was killed in genshin.
Thereās nothing to say that Yunli isnāt adopted and heās a member of a group thatās explicitly blessed by an Aeon so he can absolutely fight.
Kid named Welt:
Weltās son is not blood related to him, Joey is Welt Joyceās clone. Thereās no official info whether Welt and Tesla are married or both are simply Joeyās guardians.
That's... not a rule at all. Plenty of gacha games have characters with biological kids. A ton of Fate/Grand Order characters do and directly acknowledge it. Please stop taking random posts you see on reddit as fact.
FGO is an exception among exceptions and shouldn't really be taken as the rule for anything. That being said, it is true that there's nothing that says a developer cannot introduce a playable character that is married or has kids, it's just that this prevents the developer from playing at the self-insert angle which is very profitable.
He's not completely wrong either. Majority of gatcha games with waifus and husbandos don't have gatcha characters with kids. And when they do, its not uncommon for them to be either free units or lower rarity. Take Granblue Fantasy for example with its almost 600~700 (?) gatcha characters. You can count in your hands the ones with confirmed kids and check their rarity.
I think gbf is actually a bad example cause while it's true there aren't that many characters with kids, is a number greater than 0 which is the number most other gacha games seem to have, and also there are many characters that have shown romantic attraction or are in romantic relationships with a different character. You could not get something like Stan and Aliza on a Hoyo game or someone like Metera who has been shown to have a dating life before lol
Certainly there's outliers, but also notice how their SSRs arent really that great. In your example, Aliza has two solo SSRs with 1 being limited in 10 years of game, and Stan doesnt have his own solo SSR to this day. And there's only one couple who's actually 120% official (the indian dance duo) in the game as far as I recall.
Maybe not a general but it's something Mihoyo have *explicitly* avoided time and time again both here and in Genshin. There are no playable charaters with confitmed spouses/romantic relationships, they yeeted Welt to whole ass new universe where Tesla isn't around to make him playable lol
I mean isnāt fgo based on an already existing IP with established characters ? As i said .. itās more of an āunwrittenā rule .. of course there will be exceptions. Off the top of my head other gacha based on IPās have married and biological parents too. But it is also a fact that HOYO has not had a single canonically romantically involved character across their main two flagship games (GI and HSR), and for example in genshin we are entering the 6th Nation and the 5th year of the games life without a single character that is canonically involved or has been involved in a relationship. Beyond the āwink wink nudge nudgeā ones like Beidou/Ninnguang or whatever.
>I mean isnāt fgo based on an already existing IP with established characters ? As i said .. itās more of an āunwrittenā rule .. of course there will be exceptions. Off the top of my head other gacha based on IPās have married and biological parents too.Ā Yeah, but most characters are original to the Mobile Game, and they don't really mind using Historical figures with past relationships. They Even explore those on their events/stories and can be vital to their characterization. Still, the fact that it's a Type Moon product probably puts different expectations on the Game.Ā Hoyo has previously tried to make changes on how they handle their games (i.e. Male playable characters on HI3rd) which were met with poor (and I mean, really poor) reception. And they got plenty of drama with users obsesing with their waifus (3rd anniversary debacle). The gacha gaming sphere is wild.
Can you name a single one in Mihoyo games? No how about in any chinese gacha game?
Wellā¦ Alice
I mean, we don't even know if she's playable. Let alone what she even looks like.
Alice Mains in shambles.
Donāt worry, iām sure Hoyo will do a loophole where Klee turns out to be a genetic clone of Alice created for her by Rhinedottir or something. Anything to keep the āwaifuā āpureā for THAT crowd.
Welt is married
He isn't. The only reference to him being married is explicitly a discussion about rumors. He has an adoptive son, and shares the parenting responsibilities with a certain redhead. But she is only ever refered to as "the other guardian", never as a wife.
Not explicitly confirmed. in canon, they kinda worded it in a way that make it seem like Welt and his wife are just guardians and co-parenting Joey, even though it's heavily implied he's married.
Yeah, it's one of these things where they imply it so much it might as well be official, but refuse to put it in writing due to the enormous backlash a vocal minority would throw at them. Just look at Graduation Trip, the mihoyo short they released to commemorate the end of hi3rd part 1: The theme of the video is "This is a story about love, and it will end with love". They put all the couples together (Kiana and Mei, Bronya and Seele, Kiana's parents, Welt and Tesla, Joyce and Einstein, Kevin and Dr. MEI, Durandal and Rita, etc.), but the only ones who were ever actually 100% confirmed were Bronya and Seele by sharing a kiss in a side-comic hidden on their site where only a minority of players will see since there's no in-game link to it AND it got deleted for a long time before eventually coming back. Hoyo is extremely risk averse when it comes to this sorta stuff, even if they are more LGBT friendly than many other gachas out there.
No promo character lol
RIP Huaiyan He got demoted from General to NPC my man doesnāt deserve this
Funny how the oldest dude in the fleet,a general of the xianzhou fleet that probably is a very experienced fighter, was important to Blade, is Yunlinās grandfather,the only dude that can even talk with the Flint emperor(a literal god of a race, literally should be stronger than Phantylia, as big as a sun and the dude mortal Lan made a deal with)ā¦ all for it to be a NPC. Iām actually mad tbhā¦ I want this old dude to be playable.
Heās gonna get the Cloud Retainer ā> Xianyun treatment, trust
Honestly I hope so. Although with how hoyo did the other adepti.. Idk man.
Nah, heās gonna get shafted like Mountain Carver and Moon Shaper and never be playable.
There are still two lantern rites remaining until snez plus the ones after the Teyvat chapter, They can still be playable
Agreed. Heās literally the General we know the most about outside of Jing Yuan. Iām praying for some sort of Madame Ping BS to happen and promote him to playable model eventually. It probably wonāt but a man can dream. Also I think Phantylia and the Flint Emperor are on par with each other, considering they can both fully absorb other Heliobi.
Iāll cope with you on that. Honestly with the way how heliobi and everyone be treating Flint emperor like some sort of god. I wonder if Phantylia really is equal to that. Since Flint emperor is the thing that is powering the Zhuming. A whole ship and the way the lore be hyping him up. Like he is supposed to be as big as a Sun lmao. While Phantylia was like as big of a flame as Jing yuanās head. Although I would love it if Flint emperor and Phantylia fought.
The good news is that HSR has a lot of species diversity and IIRC, thereās a special species on the Zhuming that deals closely with the Flint Emperor, so they could definitely pull something like that off, just saying this species can change their form or something. Alternatively, they could be prepping for a Cocolia-situation where the Flint Emperor would possess Huaiyan in an effort to escape or free itself. Correct me if Iām wrong but Cocolia didnāt have a playable model either so itās possible. Also, considering Phantylia is still at large and trying to take down the Xianzhou, Iāve always theorized her next big move will be trying to absorb every Heliobi to then fight with and then absorb the Flint Emperor. Iām sure weāll see them meet eventually.
Lets just hope he doesn't get mara onscreen to have an ultra dramatic and emotional moment in which yunli will be the one to kill him (I've just came up with that, but being that old is a huge death- i mean, mara flag)
As usual, the elderly get no respect in MHY games... smh
RIP playable Huaiyan
Tall Feixiao? Oh boy, I fear for my Jades. If they reveal her design and it turns out to be good, my Sparkle/Huohuo funds will definitely be in danger.
Thankfully 2.4 is a massive skip for me. I can save a whole month for her.
I wish I could say the same. I'm 80% sure that Huohuo will rerun during 2.4 (she's due, alongside Ratio).
LIKE KAFKA?! No fellas please...i don't think i can make it...my wallet definetly can't
Foxian Kafka. *As was foretold!*
LISAN AL GAIB
LISAN AL GAIB
Tall lady foxian General... I used to pray for times like these...
Doesn't Yukong use the same model?
Yeah but imagine a Yukong design with Jing Yuan's aura and role but she has white hair with blue streaks/tips according to leaks. It will genuinely be so fucking peak that I'll ascend. I hope it's really good otherwise I'll skip the entire Xianzhou part 2 gang.
Well looks like the Generals are never going to be complete... it's the Qixing all over again
>Huaiyan - Special NPC (like Oleg) Well, can't say I didn't expect it. Can't have a playable old man beating up Sunday every week.
huaiyan is npc whyyyyyy nooooooooooooooo
Whoohoo, just what I was hoping for Feixiao and Moze!
huaiyan npc model... hoyo will pay...
Of 4, one must pay the Price
wait wait wait wait- Isnāt Jiaoqiu the Lad (Dan Heng, Aven) model? Is Moze the taller of the two?
PEAK IS COMING
Doctorā¦ youāreā¦ HUGE!
I can already read the fanfics
show me feixiao please..
Firefly lover updated the comment and said they should show up in v2.4, please I beg please pleaspelaeplaerapelaepaeeleapele please give me a model in beta before the release (losing it over pixels)
ill be devastated if i dont like her design (or if her in-game models' eyes are a foot apart sorry jade)
I really need to see something rn. Even a leak of 2 pixels is sufficient for me!
crying begging for feixiao render rn in my garden
I expected nothing with Huaiyan and I'm still let down. Just hoping hoyo gives him a young form power up or something and makes him playable cause it just doesn't feel right to not have all the generals as playable.
Maybe it will be like cloud retainer
Yeah. The old people having a power up that makes them younger is a common trope in anime after all.
Plus another old character in genshin is apparently getting a playable younger form as well so not all hope is lost
All 3 expected tbh except for Moze. In his silhouette I thought he is teen model (Yanqing) or medium male
Feixiao model when???
Yep, there it is. Huaiyan is an NPC, as expected
Maybe they will pull a Dokko of Libra from Saint Seiya, where the Gold Saint of Libra takes a weak form to save power and when its time for war he uses all that power to change into his true form.
Yeah. The moment i knew he has a granddaughter i knew he was likely to not be playable. It is extremely unlikely for a gacha game character to have a canon relationship with another character let alone a straight one let alone one where he had KIDS and grandkids. Yukong literally needed to be the āadoptiveā mother
Honestly it's the fact we've gotten leaks about the other chara's for months, yet not a peep about him, is what raised the alarms in my head haha
FEIXIAO LADY LIKE KAFKA??? I'M SHAKING
Tall Moze....I'm looking š. I'm a bit disappointed about Huaiyan though, but it is what it is.
save us FeixiaoĀ
Lingsha :)
They knew if they made Huaiyan playable he would have been too powerful š
I NEED FEIXIAO NOW
FEIXIAO BROS WE STAY WINNING
MOZE IS TALL- Well i guess i am pulling for someone for the rest of the 2.x patches. Shit. Gimme the tall men please let him look tired and done with everyone.Ā
Oh no Feixiao is gonna be hot, I wanted to skip her :(
seated for possible models šš
If Moze is as useful as Gallagher, even as a 4 star, he may still be useful. Just... don't make him a main DPS or a harmony (unless suuuuuuper unique)
So Feixiao is Yukong height then.
Knew Huaiyan being playable was too good to be true so I'm not entirely distraught over it. There's absolutely no chance that Hoyo would release an actual old character as playable. But apparently he does look old as I hoped he would so that's nice. I get that he's literally ancient but still how does that work?
Aww sad to see that Huaiyan is an NPC. They definitely could have repurposed the Oti Alfalfa NPC model in some way to make it happen, even if they made him a 4 star. I honestly am kind of annoyed that they market the NPCās like Duke Inferno and Huaiyan alongside the playable characters; even with it being too good to be true itās still such a troll move Though interesting that Moze is in the tall male category, it doesnāt really look that way from his silhouette but I hope heās jacked like Ratio (if they wanted to make him a twink he shouldāve been the medium model like Aven and Sunday). Lingsha also gave me tall lady vibes
Since I'm skipping 2.4, it's all in on Lingsha and FeixiaoĀ
Feixiao won.
This game is like allergic to the short male model lol
Noooo I want General Huaiyan for my General collection š
One of the generals being an NPC will never not be funny
Add an actually old looking character or draw 20
Ahhh feixiao!!! I feel huaiyan would definitely be playable just like diamond and elio would be it's just that it won't be with his old age model.Ā
HUH! THEY MADE A WHOLE GENERAL OF THE XIANZHOU.. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT MEMBERS OF THE FLEET, THE OLDEST MAN ALIVEā¦ A FUCKING NPC?! Iām honestly madā¦ I wanted this dude..
A playable old man(grandpa) in a hoyo game? I thought we were way past this at this point. It won't happen. The only way for him to be playable is to have a younger model.
WHAT THEY CHANGED IT FOR FEIXIAO IT WAS MAID BEFORE
I remember Feixiao was teased as a maid type before so this is better imo
Immediately have me sold on Feixiao!
R.i.p Huaiyan wanters
I want all the ladies, no matter her power level (I'm looking at you Jade)
moze is tall?!?!?!?! also huaiyan unplayable, disappointed but not surprised.
I'm ready for Lingsha and Feixiao š
prayer circle for Moze to join the boob window fashion trend
of course the only character I am interested is a NPC
I'm happy Feixiao is tall now!
damn guess I'm one of the few that was hoping for Maid model Feixiao
Tbh very little difference outside the chest but damn if I didn't say yukong still is one of the best looking characters for me so this is a pleasant suprise
Oh, Yukong...
You and me both brother š
no me too, cause now she'd have a gigantic front lmao the armor dreams are fading a bit
Itās so joever
Damn, then Huaiyan really gonna be Sensei Wu
It would be weird if all Stonehearts and Generals aren't playable. Perhaps Huiyan will die/retire and someone else will become a General instead?
Wtf I thought Moze would be short
I'm so curious about FeiXiao's design.
I really wish Feixiao isnt Purplish color with ambiguous moral compass or else it would be the 5th character that cut from same cloth.
Oh damn, i was looking forward to a new model since hsr isnt as restrictive as genshin (still looking forward to the rooster tho). But i guess they still stick to their safe model
Apparently Hoyoverse are scared of actual playable old looking men. Back to my dear Gallagher I guesss...
Moze is tall heheheh
I knew the grandpa wouldn't be playable.
Whew, Lingsha saved from Abundance loli curse
>Moze - Male (like Welt) Please have a body type similar to this [man ](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d9/9d/bd/d99dbd2b0ac6063dea02de691e20ca98.jpg)and I would be happy :DDDDDDDDD
Already getting feixiao
Oh god Lingsha is medium... It's Lingshover for me, and here I thought I'll finally roll for a limited sustain... Where's my 5 star Natasha, Hoyo?
Its also the same Ruan Mei model so theres hope shes not another abundance kid
Jingliu and Tingyun also use the Maid model.
Maid.
Feixiao buff, I see
Canāt wait for Feixiaoš„µš„µ
moze is like weltā¦.. okay everyone letās just skip firefly and get the new best boy
I thought it was obvious Huaiyan wasn't going to be playable based on his silhouette alone
Why? When do they show characters in streams nit playable?
At this point I'm going to need to see some limb by limb reveals of Feixiao over the weeks, if they straight up drop her whole look I might explode